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Misfits' advantage
@toxic yacht Misfits took it 2-1
First CoL now Fnatic ;_;
Rooting for NA is suffering
Complexity just has to beat Penta again to continue? Right?
Man, this is great. NA really needs to catch up, but good for misfits
Seeing these NA and EU mixed tourneys just showcases how far behind the NA OW scene is tbh
@toxic yacht Meanwhile my stream is buffering on 144 fucking p
Whoo Aussie internet
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Anyone watching Dreamhack atm?
Yep
I am
Indeed
I doubt u did ๐
ye, I saw that one
Who do you think will win Drawlords?
and the playoffs are no real surprise tbh, should have expected it
like, Penta's attack comp on numbani would have worked 2 metas back (if I ignore D.Va)
Penta was really strong on the first map but CoL absolutely destryed them
I have no idea wtf they were thinking
I think NiP could very well take it
NiP looks very strong imo
But deep down I want CoL and mah boi Harb to win it
CoL CoL CoL CoL
NiP literally invented the 3 tank meta, so I have hope
but the only US team that even has a chance to win is Fnatic imo, and now that iddqd is gone, eh
I thought that was Uncia 
nah, a dps player on NiP decided to run ana when everyone thought that she was still shit
he insisted on running her
then they went 3/3
ic
and that's how the "World of Tanks" meta was born
its also how people found out that Ana is very, very strong
Have NiP ever played against Rogue or NV etc.?
idk
I generally do that for effect
Other top teams, mainly
Anyway I'm off to bed
@toxic yacht Tell me how the Playoffs go
Indeed
Absolute domination by Misfits on Nepal
eu dominates on control in general
Rooting for NA is suffering
kek, still awake?
Yeah, EU > NA
pretty sure that it's already an established fact
rooting for NA is like asking to get hurt
yeah, understandable why you'd go with custa
wait what is the final?
and where do i watch it?
@balmy wolf where do you watch it?
ty @vestal mortar
np! ๐
my bet is on Fnatic, sucks that iddqd is gone though
i want to find a main
What happened to Fnatic? ๐ They're playing on another level atm
Fnatic is going fucking crazy
apex final when?
Its Soon
what about NRG?
oh ok
NA only got NRG?
Envy, Fnatic and C9 are top 3 for NA
I haven't seen any C9 games lately. Have they got their shit together? Few months ago they were all over the plave
place*
Lets keep playing a 4 tank draft even though we lost every round with it
GOD DAMMIT FNATIC
yeah but on the other it means we get to see 4 tank comp getting rekt FeelsAmazingMan
does other big esport organization like navi/eg got their own overwatch team?
@onyx shore Fnatic, Cloud9, Liquid, Dignitas, compLexity, FaZe and Tempo Storm
Big eSport companies
well,liquid is pretty well known right?
let's hope secret won't go to overwatch
Oh I thought you were replying to the "what are the best teams" question
They used to be a lot better
Like before the Overwatch Open
Them, Misfits and Rogue were always beating eachother
But after Kyb left they've fallen off
My god are we ever going to get back to the map?
They just have to get the early picks on soon. He is carrying misfits
THAT SHOT
This is so bloody
zebbosai almsot threw right there
Soon is so slippery. I'm annoyed FOR fnatic
YEESSSS
MISFITS WINS AGAIN
but yeah, it was an eu team
I expected em to win solely based on that
WOO!
Close tho. Gg
triple dps tho
SoOn carried that shit
but seriously, zeb almost threw right there
yup
Still sad though
true, but I had hopes in Fnatic
I expected MIsfits to take the whole things solely based off that
oh, and they also won owopen
Zeb motm
probably that contributed
So misfits using 3dps 1 tank (not even rein or dva) and no ana. Is it too soon to call tank meta?
And those dps are widow/genji/tracer. That's something you see in quickplay.
Not in a serious game
Misfits are my heroes
Running Genji and Tracer into 4 tanks
They give me hope that this rubbish meta started by Ana will disappear
i surely hope so
where to put links?
What links
Coaching is happening. Plat and below, mic please! Just some friendly high diamonds looking to help. Please PM me for our discord!
Please don't link other discord servers here @uneven stone
@wary jacinth
No mercy! ๐ฅ
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1v1 Miro vs Kruise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGH9dkj69Kk
watching the miro 1v1, he seems like such a likeable dude
How can you tell?
not gonna lie, he seems like a bloodthirsty mofo to me, and I love it ๐
he might be
You mean Dreamhack?
I was betting on them because Fnatic
Harsh, but not wrong.
Harsh?
Holy fuck
Grego, Reaver, Wonderfuls and Shadder
Damn dude
I have no idea who those other two are
but the rest is pretty good
I feel like it would have been a better idea to get Debett instead of Frisco or Robwiz
Robwiz is a DPS player but I doubt he's better than Reaver and Shadder
So he'll probably be playing support
I'm really curious to see how Shadder performs. Didn't watch any of OWKings games
Shadder seems more like a pubstomper and less like a teamplayer to me. Insane individual skill, but dunno how well he'll work in a team. I'm definitely curious.
kinda disappointed that they didn't pick up Tisumi though
He has a ton of potential and even reached rank 1 at some point
Better than that washed up Surefour guy
Shadder's Reaper is also quite good
He's very much like SDB in that respect
Being a really good Genji and being able to play a good Reaper too
he plays reaper, mccree and pharah too
mostly reaper and mccree
a lot of genji mains second pick tends to be reaper, actually
Makes a lot of sense
If they're not really doing much because of Winston disrupting them, they go Reaper
ye, I do that too. Whenever I am on Kings Row attack I always do a flip flop thingy. First Genji, then we take point A. After that I see if they have Winston, then I go Reaper for the streets phase. If we keep snowballing and get through, Winston normally switches. Then I go Genji again to end it off
haha esports is for autists
SORRY,, WRONG CHAT
Question,do you think sombra will be patche?
@drowsy wraith #overwatch
is surefour already washed up?
also hows seagull doing?
i havent payed attention or played OW since a month or 2 after release
C9 has fallen off
They have a new roster now though so
They should hopefully get better
but they got that roster a while ago so im not so sure
rip
They moved to NRG
Oh wait i missed some stuff
Esper got kicked
then indust did
then they picked up Dummy
Then gods and pookz left
and they picked up numlocked and clockwork
i cant remember the name but i remember a european guy who was a god tier pharah player
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Tviq? If you mean him, he's a god at everything
nah
not tviq
his name
had something to do with rocket jumping
i think
talespin
is the pharah player
what happened to him?
He left Envy
whatd taimou do?
He's toxic
rip
did i miss any awesome crazy moments?
or hilarious drama
or dank memes
since like 2 months after ow came out?
I guess?
any you could think of?
Not really
Talespin was, like, the only American in NV
when will the new team Rly Cool Guys play next? i want to see them play
they haven't even played a match yet
And it says in the article I assume you read
They're playing in the Alienware Merry Melee this week
honestly didnt read it. just saw whos on it. and thanks ill be sure to watch it
What day does the Alienware start again? I know when the Envy AFB match is, and I definitely am watching that
First match is in 46 hours @unkempt quiver
Got it thanks. I think it should be interesting to see Cloud9 play RlyCoolguys since Reaver and Grego came from C9. Does anyone know why they left?
if taimou's stream is indicative of his actual behavior, then yeah i'd say he's toxic
He said that his stream personality isn't how he is in a team envrionment
But I highly doubt that
He specified when he talked about Talespin leaving that his behaviour on stream is not what he is like in a team envrionment
and Talespin said a few things about the players of Envy when he left
and for Taimou just wrote
"He has good aim."
lul
Speaks for itself really
Indeed
good morning everyone! I just posted this week's meta report which was really heavy on Misfits' Dreamhack win -- let me know what you think in the comments! https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/5fqget/overwatch_hero_meta_report_whos_meta_is_it_anyway/
thanks for the report, they are appreciated, as always
I appreciate you
@severe girder are you gonna lurk around this place more? We are in dire need of more people here
I'm more people
hi more people
no one talks in esports discussion?
I'm ShaDowBurn
This place feels like #overwatch back in the Summer
i love sporsts
apwfoawf esports*
hugely competitive
i just took a major break
cuz i went ham first couple months
then got exhausted and went back to wow for legion for a bit
now im coming back
Legion's good
tryna catch up on esporsts
Had to quit though, too much to do
yeah but its getting dry now
the too much to do becomes nothing needed to do pretty quick
nope, barely anyone talks. Except there is a match going on, its usually me or some other dude who posts a message/I post a few updates about tourneys, rosters, etc, but apart from that it's pretty darn dead most of the time
It lit up during the world cup tho
As most esports boards tend to do
I'm a little behind myself, didn't even realize that there's been some roster shuffling
Ther's like the same 5 people in here all the time
idk id rather talk to people who arent casuals tho
I'm just trying to get a feel for this discord
i feel like if you talked in general discussion about competitive OW youd get flamed
that makes sense kinda
eSports also isn't really that big in the Overwatch communits (yet, hopefully). I wish it were a bit more like CS where the main sub and its communities are chock-full of eSports, but not as extreme since it may turn people off who aren't really into the scene yet
I live and die as a dirty casual flex player
@toxic yacht You're going to be watching the Merry Melee right?
@toxic yacht i dont think that will happen
Played 16 hrs of Hanzo over the two weeks of release
Then decided I wanted tobe useful
Anyway, I somewhat get sidetracked and discuss esports in #general-discussion, discussions usually don't get much traction tho
to be*
i could explain why it wont happen
but i would come off as some douchebag for saying the truth
๐
I'm definitely gonna watch the melee, but it wont air at awfully EU friendly times
@worn cargo i mean i solo held a point as hanzo the other day
Going to need to watch the vods for the matches I miss
Oh he's good now, but I've been playing so much hitscan that playing hanzo basically makes me want to shoot myself these days
I can't play hanzo anymore since they buffed his projectile speed, lul
I'm much better with slow projectiles
i did this : http://plays.tv/video/583e011eae4677da89/mccree-kills?from=user and this: http://plays.tv/video/583b4a5e9b53f240fe/5-piece?from=user in the same day
how did I miss it?
I find your excitement amusing
xD
@toxic yacht The first match is at like 9am GMT on the 1st
i found this really funny when it happened
That's not too bad
during the charge
my head was like
"push off ledge TURN LEFT HARD"
i didnt turn left hard enough
i laughed at the end tho
I'll definitely watch the first match, its at 22 in my timezone, it should work. Especially since I'm curious about rly cool guys
i incidentally did what i wanted to do in the first place
cet
est ftw
its an hour ahead of gmt
central ftw
That means its only at 10am for you
not 10pm
Anyway
I just want to see who replaced Roolf on Method
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time @ cet
ye, 7:07
wat, isn't gmt grinnich main time? Isn't that in england, pretty darn sure it is
Yeah it is
the words that are banned on this discord lol
lul
E EWW
I was already really goddamn confused about what was going on
Also apparently Wolf replaced Roolf on Method
Which is weird because Wolf was on trial for C9 and was replaced by Roolf
So they in some sense swapped. Lul
I'm still really hyped to see c9 play at mlg vegas though
I thought C9 were doing shit but out of their last 12 matches they've only lost 1
I really haven't been keeping up with the scene recently
Since Apex and APAC
I'd go as far as saying that the current roster is the second best in na again, (I also with that nrg can become like luminosity again like and be 3rd in na, a man can dream) so I'm very excited to see them play
yeah, I've only been keeping up with the numbers while watching apex
I also watched a few of c9s monthly melee matches
Just the whole team really
I love Fnatic
Which is weird, because I hate their CS team
fnatic is an na team
wat
i follow most esports scenes
and fnatic has always been eu in the big games
Everyone hated their CS team. It's hilarious to watch some of the reactions to the boost and see that hate flow through the community
fnatic is na in ow
It must have been especially bad since fnatic went full nv and was winning everything
I dont even hate them for Olofboost or anything
just their personalites and devilwalk?
Mostly Flusha
Who I believed was hacking up until the day I stopped playing and caring about CS
oh. So its a bit like nv were you cannot support them because you hate taimou?
Yep
He just lifts his mouse a lot
My favourite team when I was playing CS was NiP
I never really cared much about the cs scene (am a silver 1 scrub and didn't feel like going through the effort to get into it), but there were a lot of hackusations leveled at fnatic
For reason aswell
I liked Envy too
But yknow
then Kqly was hacking
Also really liked LDLC
Which is probably why I liked Envy
oh god flusha
i hated fnatic
i didnt like their playstyle at all
i made it to mge in cs go ๐
my fave was tsm
when they were a team
c9 was cool
https://twitter.com/MLG/status/804039218846715904
MLG Vegas Talent Lineup
If you haven't already seen it, here are the participating teams
https://twitter.com/MrAdamAp/status/798224684919623680?lang=en
oh wait, the teams are in the talent lineup image
smh
flame is there
no uber tho ๐ฆ
At least ZP is present, huk is there too, for the better or worse
Ster was a pretty fine caster during the atlantic showdown, so I'm definitely excited to see him again
I hoping for some Ster + ZP action
I would have much preferred if Uber and Hex were there though
That would make it way better
But this lineup is still good
uber and hex are a thing, dunno why people always feel the need to tear them apart
;-;
I'm gonna miss some of the uber shouting, but the lineup seems solid
I also never expected to see flame as an anlysist
I love that Rachel is just the host all the time
If she was a Caster, hell even an analyst, I wouldnt be able to take it
Don't think that she's very much a caster/analyst type. She just kinda is. Same with Soe, she also kinda... exists
inb4 they give flame a drawing tool and project it on-screen
lol
Mickie will play with NV during Vegas :)
she was at dreamhack
but I've only seen her twice, Rachel has been fucking everywhere up until now
probably because Soe doesn't feel like flying all around the world, so she's only in EU events. Rachel just needs to move from state to state depending on what is happening due to all of the US events
yeah makes sense
can confirm
is good
she mostly only hosts, so I don't really care about the casting tbh. She seems to fit more into that role anyway
She has a pretty face and a good voice, and seems to be somewhat knowledgable
definitely a pretty face, so I always appreciate seeing her. Yes, I'm also the kind of person whom dva pandering works on
Normies REEEEE
Polo is dead
@toxic yacht was there a losers match bw CoL and nip?
i didnt play ow last night
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got to wrapped up in grimm
whens the next tourney thats gonna be streamed at?
@lament plinth Hello
@Solaire alienware monthly (this month merry) melee, in 7 hours
cool
@severe girder recommend getting the Gosu Chrome app
tells you next tournament times etc..
ye, I have it installed
just disable all the other games you don't give a shit about
^^^link
ty
Is there anyone that can read korean around up for helping me find a certain match VOD (from the nexus cup)? ^^
oh, they're still banning...
kingdom has more experience as a team, so I wouldn't be shocked if they win
numbani has been banned
rip shadder2k
Kings row pls
3rd draft
I'll just watch the vod tomorrow ๐ฆ
no surprise there
he is one of the best genjis around
just not really pro
hope that that changes now
Well he's a pro genji now
I'd put him into the top 5 genjis in the world tbh
Ye, you wanted me to remove him back then anyway
kek
I'll still mostly see. Arhan definitely isn't going, he's the best korean genji I've seen
ye, kyb could go. He lives on in my heart and all, but he's no pro
I'll probably shuffle some stuff around soon
Will decide who comes and goes then
no real surprise there tbh
I don't expect them to do exceptionally well during their first match
but quad tank triggers me tbh
this is overwatch, not world of tanks
lol
that nanovisor felt like overkill
Wonderfuls dropped shield
got a 5 man earthshatter
wonderfuls trying to throw again
wonderfuls pls
edge boost
100%
no way he'd get there so fast otherwise
I'll have to watch that part again in the vod
I thought that he was a bit too far away during the overtime meter, but there are no proper edgeboost spots there in my experience
so he was probably just fast
because of his spawn
The only thing he could have boosted off is that cylinder thing
And that would have launched him outside the point
I think he just walked back
ye, so it most like wasn't a boost
Yeah well SoOn is like
they'll just run triple dps into 3 tanks
#1 Tracer
I mean, they did play during apex
3-2-1 and 2-2-2
if I ignore haksal they did okay
Yeah I know
thats why i didnt say "i wish they were still a thing"
When Kyb left it feels like they just like
lost all confidence
or something
kyb was also an amazing genji. But they also underperformed during the owopen, although kyb was there
I feel like it's just the current meta
kyb leaving also didn't help
at all
reaver on widow now?
nice
tbh I liked the pro scene the most before all the LANs started
I didn't care about OW during that phase, so I cannot really comment on that
Thats when I watched it most
From release up until a little after the Open
I like
completely stopped when APAC, Apex and MSI were on
Shadder is kind of having the same problem Mendo was at first
He keeps switching
Not gaining any traction
Apparently C9 Vs Liquid is on too
love it how multiple matches happen at once
I have 4 eyes and 2 brains, you know
Cant forget that Shadder has really high ping
120+ in my experience
but 120 ping when connecting to others countrys servers are weird
I, like, play with 160 when I'm on na servers
Are you in Romania?
nah, austria, but I'm saying that even when I use eu 20 ping internet I get 120+ to na. What I'm saying is that it's most definitely fairly high
especially since he is in romania
dafuq was that self destruct?
lul
gj ๐
I mean, blizzard didn't even intend people to use more than 2 tanks, evidenced by the menu tips, lul
I miss 2/2/
you actially had firefights
and proper skirmishes, instead of this stupid "lucky pick" and "use ults to murder everyone" thing
pharmercy and grego on widow
btw you two know you can PM on discord right? ๐ whenever I check the channel it's always just you two talking about smth ๐
At least stay until the end of this round @toxic yacht
I'm trying
@pseudo sail If we talked in PMs this channel would be dead
but I missed the entire tunnel segment
After seeing 4-2, nothing triggers me anymore
lel
what dps & who's playing @balmy wolf
shadder2k my friend
the 1 dps was 76
also most people I've seen are trying to standartize it support-tank-dps, you should help spread the word ๐
Anyone who follows the scene knows its Tank-Support-DPS
rcg's nanovisors are fucking terrible
oki thx
imagine, surefour had to carry someone like him for months
I always felt bad for S4 when he was playing with Reaver
Like
There was one match
Control Center Lijiang
Reaver on Reaper
The camera was on him for ages
he was doing nothing
shooting at nothing, getting no kills
ulted no one
god it was terrible
Shadder on Genji
Looking at how the team has been performing since rogue beating them really makes me feel bad four surefour
you said four surefour
it's very clear that surefour was doing everything in his power to win
instead of for surefour
New C9 has been doing good so far though
I somewhate fixed it
Its still four surefour
new c9 looks amazing
I can't wait for mlg
as I said, somewhat fixed
I'm not fixing the "four"
.>
SHADDER
shadder carrying
They did bad on Ilios, then did better on Holly and now are doing great on Kings Row
It's like they're charging up
maybe koth just isn't theirs
nice
the salt
reaver also left really fast
lol
you saw the chat
?
"Kingdom, stay pls"
The twitch chat?
nope, in-game chat
I saw reaver say thanks
dont know what to
New team, first game in their history
they play 2-1-3
and win
looking good already
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that winston highlight tho
or going to bed?
bed
rip
lol
@balmy wolf Watching c9 vs. RCG?
C9 beat Liquid
RCG beat Kingdom
Liquid beat RCG
Kingdom beat C9
Liquid beat Kingdom
C9 beat RCG
๐ค
So everyone has at least one win so far
And Liquid has 2
And c9's looking to have 2 as well
C9 has 2 aswell
Well they haven't beat RCG yet
Yeah they have
They beat them 2-0
ofc
lol
Im backing IMT
I'm a stramer fanboy tbh
I like c9 because I love Surefour's and Mendo's streams, and I like CoL because I love Harb's streams
@balmy wolf Was there a loser's match b/w CoL and NiP at Dreamhack?
No
A team...?
manOFsnow
ConnorJ
J3sus
Ajax
Sherlockey
Juv3nile
rekt
You're a bad person, Polo
Kingdom and C9 in Winners bracket
wew
That group
was ridiculous
Everyone was beating everyone
C9 beat Liquid
RCG beat Kingdom
Liquid beat RCG
Kingdom beat C9
Kingdom beat Liquid
C9 beat RCG
๐ Server error ๐
Oh wow
CoL is doing worse
Kill me
I hate my life
Why does this have to happen to CoL
Because they deserve it :^]
Fuck you Polo
:^]

^ das u
Of course it's me
CoL was rolling through third point on Eich of all maps
Then the server crashes
Then they can't get 2nd
rekt
THen get rolled on defence
Why wouldn't I be salty
CoL keeps getting fucked over in ways completely out of their control
rekt
Chaotic Neutral actually
y
I'm so fucking sick of this shit
what shit
You know what shit Polo
i dont though
Go fuck yourself :)
i really dont know though
Hollywood crashed
Mah bois ;_;
Esporsts, is jus th gaem
esports and xb1 kek
๐ค
I hope you realise the platform you play on doesn't restrict you from what you can watch
troof
@forest raven What in the what
btw, miro streams now
his name is "A_Miro" because he's a big Seagull fan and Seagull is "A_Seagull" too
Pros are such fanboys, lol
That's fucking amazing
Tviq has been streaming today and watching him play tanks/supports is sort of amusing if nothing else
His hero pool is absurd
tviq is good at video games in general
tviq is kinda good at overwatch
he's okay
hey folks, if you want to check out my preview & predictions of tomorrow's final in apex between EnVyUS & Afreeca Freecs Blue and don't mind a bit of an accent https://youtu.be/BP03Ws3soDo
I wonder if we'll see any sombra or torb tomorrow
I touch a bit on that, but you'll need to suffer trough the thing ๐
and you can also tell me if it's actually understandable if you manage to sit trough a bit of it ๐
@balmy wolf @toxic yacht coL vs. FaZe on Eich, game crashed again





