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forest raven
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~1:10 to 2:20

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Misfits' advantage

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@toxic yacht Misfits took it 2-1

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First CoL now Fnatic ;_;

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Rooting for NA is suffering

deft bluff
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Complexity just has to beat Penta again to continue? Right?

forest raven
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Yeah

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Still want the teams you root for to win as much as possible, though

toxic yacht
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Man, this is great. NA really needs to catch up, but good for misfits

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Seeing these NA and EU mixed tourneys just showcases how far behind the NA OW scene is tbh

forest raven
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@toxic yacht Meanwhile my stream is buffering on 144 fucking p

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Whoo Aussie internet

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๐Ÿ”ซ

grim wolf
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Anyone watching Dreamhack atm?

deft bluff
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Yep

forest raven
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I am

vestal mortar
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Indeed

unreal mist
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I just got offered a place on NiP

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Should i accept?

grim wolf
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I doubt u did ๐Ÿ˜„

forest raven
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@toxic yacht CoL beat Penta 2-1

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Playoffs are NiP vs. Fnatic and CoL vs. Misfits

toxic yacht
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ye, I saw that one

uneven stone
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Who do you think will win Drawlords?

toxic yacht
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and the playoffs are no real surprise tbh, should have expected it

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like, Penta's attack comp on numbani would have worked 2 metas back (if I ignore D.Va)

uneven stone
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Penta was really strong on the first map but CoL absolutely destryed them

toxic yacht
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I have no idea wtf they were thinking

forest raven
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I think NiP could very well take it

uneven stone
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NiP looks very strong imo

forest raven
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But deep down I want CoL and mah boi Harb to win it

toxic yacht
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its gonna be misfits

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I say

forest raven
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CoL CoL CoL CoL

toxic yacht
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NiP literally invented the 3 tank meta, so I have hope

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but the only US team that even has a chance to win is Fnatic imo, and now that iddqd is gone, eh

forest raven
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I thought that was Uncia jollyThonk

toxic yacht
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nah, a dps player on NiP decided to run ana when everyone thought that she was still shit

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he insisted on running her

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then they went 3/3

forest raven
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ic

toxic yacht
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and that's how the "World of Tanks" meta was born

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its also how people found out that Ana is very, very strong

forest raven
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Have NiP ever played against Rogue or NV etc.?

toxic yacht
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nope

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wait, who is included when you say etc?

forest raven
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idk

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I generally do that for effect

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Other top teams, mainly

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Anyway I'm off to bed

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@toxic yacht Tell me how the Playoffs go

toxic yacht
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oh, yeah, playoffs

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will tell you if i watch

balmy wolf
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Wowee

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This misfits vs CoL

vestal mortar
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Indeed

balmy wolf
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Absolute domination by Misfits on Nepal

toxic yacht
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eu dominates on control in general

balmy wolf
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CoL throwing ULTRALUL

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"Throwmbra"

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lol

toxic yacht
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col is always using sombra

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lul

balmy wolf
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Wow this is such a stomp

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"Gibraltar CoL's best map"

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QP stomp

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kek

forest raven
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Rooting for NA is suffering

toxic yacht
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kek, still awake?

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Yeah, EU > NA

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pretty sure that it's already an established fact

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rooting for NA is like asking to get hurt

forest raven
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I rooted for CoL because Harb

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And I'm rooting for Fanatic because Custa

toxic yacht
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yeah, understandable why you'd go with custa

balmy wolf
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I root for Fnatic all day

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Even with my boy Iddqd gone

balmy wolf
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NA vs EU finals

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gg NiP

uneven stone
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wait what is the final?

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and where do i watch it?

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@balmy wolf where do you watch it?

vestal mortar
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dreamhack

uneven stone
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ty @vestal mortar

vestal mortar
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np! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

uneven stone
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my bet is on Fnatic, sucks that iddqd is gone though

balmy wolf
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they're gonna get talespin

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i can feel it

uneven stone
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fnatic 4 tank

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s

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...

robust lodge
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i want to find a main

uneven stone
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dont ask here

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this is esport discussion

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omg that fnatic overtime round

grim wolf
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What happened to Fnatic? ๐Ÿ˜„ They're playing on another level atm

zenith mirage
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Fnatic is going fucking crazy

balmy wolf
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SoOn about to wreck Fnatic

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well

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nevermind then

onyx shore
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apex final when?

balmy wolf
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Oh wow

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Ruster left LG

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Superplouk from Bonjour replaced him

uneven stone
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wait

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do you pronounce it So On or Soon

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i always thought that it was so on

onyx shore
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which teams are considered strong now?

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envy,rogue

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kongdoo,lunatic hai

balmy wolf
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Its Soon

onyx shore
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what about NRG?

uneven stone
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oh ok

balmy wolf
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I'd say Rogue, Mifits and NiP are top 3 EU

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Then Envy, Fnatic and C9

onyx shore
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NA only got NRG?

balmy wolf
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Envy, Fnatic and C9 are top 3 for NA

grim wolf
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I haven't seen any C9 games lately. Have they got their shit together? Few months ago they were all over the plave

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place*

high tiger
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Lets keep playing a 4 tank draft even though we lost every round with it

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GOD DAMMIT FNATIC

halcyon nymph
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yeah but on the other it means we get to see 4 tank comp getting rekt FeelsAmazingMan

onyx shore
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does other big esport organization like navi/eg got their own overwatch team?

balmy wolf
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3-2-1 and 1-2-3 being played right now

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hm

uneven stone
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@onyx shore Fnatic, Cloud9, Liquid, Dignitas, compLexity, FaZe and Tempo Storm

balmy wolf
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Liquid and Dig?

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lolwot

uneven stone
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Big eSport companies

onyx shore
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well,liquid is pretty well known right?

uneven stone
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yea

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they are not good

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but the organisation is well known

onyx shore
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let's hope secret won't go to overwatch

balmy wolf
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Oh I thought you were replying to the "what are the best teams" question

uneven stone
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no lol

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woah

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that fnatic defense

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hot damn

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@balmy wolf is reunited any good?

balmy wolf
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They used to be a lot better

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Like before the Overwatch Open

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Them, Misfits and Rogue were always beating eachother

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But after Kyb left they've fallen off

pale hemlock
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My god are we ever going to get back to the map?

uneven stone
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omg

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Fnatic

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destroyed misfits on Hollywood

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Fnatic will win

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100%

toxic yacht
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oh wow, 2-2

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tuned in right now

pale hemlock
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They just have to get the early picks on soon. He is carrying misfits

toxic yacht
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THAT SHOT

pale hemlock
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God damn

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Diva get the widow. Come on

toxic yacht
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switch off widow

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wtf

pale hemlock
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This is so bloody

toxic yacht
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zebbosai almsot threw right there

pale hemlock
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Soon is so slippery. I'm annoyed FOR fnatic

toxic yacht
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YEESSSS

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MISFITS WINS AGAIN

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but yeah, it was an eu team

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I expected em to win solely based on that

vestal mortar
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WOO!

pale hemlock
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Close tho. Gg

toxic yacht
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triple dps tho

balmy wolf
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SoOn carried that shit

toxic yacht
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but seriously, zeb almost threw right there

uneven stone
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Noooooooo

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Fnatic did so well

balmy wolf
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Im not really surprised Fnatic lost because well

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EU > NA

toxic yacht
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yup

balmy wolf
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Still sad though

uneven stone
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true, but I had hopes in Fnatic

toxic yacht
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I expected MIsfits to take the whole things solely based off that

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oh, and they also won owopen

uneven stone
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Zeb motm

toxic yacht
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probably that contributed

jagged crater
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So misfits using 3dps 1 tank (not even rein or dva) and no ana. Is it too soon to call tank meta?

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And those dps are widow/genji/tracer. That's something you see in quickplay.

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Not in a serious game

toxic yacht
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Misfits are my heroes

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Running Genji and Tracer into 4 tanks

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They give me hope that this rubbish meta started by Ana will disappear

uneven stone
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i surely hope so

wind vigil
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also that cheeky widow in overtime

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ballsy

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but i feel like that's why they won

jolly mauve
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where to put links?

trim trellis
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What links

pine dragon
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Coaching is happening. Plat and below, mic please! Just some friendly high diamonds looking to help. Please PM me for our discord!

mighty valeBOT
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Please don't link other discord servers here @uneven stone
@wary jacinth

pseudo sail
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No mercy! ๐Ÿ”ฅ

toxic yacht
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APEX finals on saturday ๐Ÿ”ฅ

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this month

sour escarp
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ใ€‚ใ€‚

pseudo sail
gleaming ermine
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watching the miro 1v1, he seems like such a likeable dude

balmy wolf
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How can you tell?

pseudo sail
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not gonna lie, he seems like a bloodthirsty mofo to me, and I love it ๐Ÿ‘Œ

gleaming ermine
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he might be

velvet citrus
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Is the Winter Championship on?

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Rn

balmy wolf
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You mean Dreamhack?

velvet citrus
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Yes

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Oh and Hi Polo

balmy wolf
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That ended

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Yesterday

velvet citrus
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Aww

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Who won?

balmy wolf
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Finals was Fnatic vs Misfits

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Misfits won

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Again

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lel

velvet citrus
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Hmm, I would've bet on Fnatic in that matchup

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Because underdogs

balmy wolf
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I was betting on them because Fnatic

velvet citrus
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Harsh, but not wrong.

balmy wolf
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Harsh?

balmy wolf
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Holy fuck

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Grego, Reaver, Wonderfuls and Shadder

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Damn dude

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I have no idea who those other two are

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but the rest is pretty good

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I feel like it would have been a better idea to get Debett instead of Frisco or Robwiz

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Robwiz is a DPS player but I doubt he's better than Reaver and Shadder

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So he'll probably be playing support

toxic yacht
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I'm really curious to see how Shadder performs. Didn't watch any of OWKings games

jovial eagle
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shadder has uncanny skills

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will be interesting

toxic yacht
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Shadder seems more like a pubstomper and less like a teamplayer to me. Insane individual skill, but dunno how well he'll work in a team. I'm definitely curious.

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kinda disappointed that they didn't pick up Tisumi though

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He has a ton of potential and even reached rank 1 at some point

forest raven
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Better than that washed up Surefour guy

jovial eagle
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Genji's kinda for solo

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But we'll see

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Its very excoting

balmy wolf
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Shadder's Reaper is also quite good

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He's very much like SDB in that respect

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Being a really good Genji and being able to play a good Reaper too

toxic yacht
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he plays reaper, mccree and pharah too

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mostly reaper and mccree

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a lot of genji mains second pick tends to be reaper, actually

balmy wolf
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Makes a lot of sense

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If they're not really doing much because of Winston disrupting them, they go Reaper

toxic yacht
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ye, I do that too. Whenever I am on Kings Row attack I always do a flip flop thingy. First Genji, then we take point A. After that I see if they have Winston, then I go Reaper for the streets phase. If we keep snowballing and get through, Winston normally switches. Then I go Genji again to end it off

balmy wolf
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haha esports is for autists

balmy wolf
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SORRY,, WRONG CHAT

drowsy wraith
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Question,do you think sombra will be patche?

balmy wolf
severe girder
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is surefour already washed up?

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also hows seagull doing?

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i havent payed attention or played OW since a month or 2 after release

balmy wolf
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C9 has fallen off

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They have a new roster now though so

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They should hopefully get better

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but they got that roster a while ago so im not so sure

severe girder
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rip

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hows seagull doing?

balmy wolf
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Oh right

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He's not on LG anymore

severe girder
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rip

balmy wolf
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They moved to NRG

severe girder
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whats he doing now

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did he get bad or something?

balmy wolf
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Oh wait i missed some stuff

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Esper got kicked

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then indust did

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then they picked up Dummy

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Then gods and pookz left

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and they picked up numlocked and clockwork

severe girder
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i cant remember the name but i remember a european guy who was a god tier pharah player

balmy wolf
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

toxic yacht
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Tviq? If you mean him, he's a god at everything

severe girder
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nah

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not tviq

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his name

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had something to do with rocket jumping

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i think

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talespin

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is the pharah player

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what happened to him?

balmy wolf
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He left Envy

severe girder
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how come?

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was envy doing bad?

balmy wolf
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Nope

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He left because of Taimou

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Basically

severe girder
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whatd taimou do?

balmy wolf
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He's toxic

severe girder
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rip

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did i miss any awesome crazy moments?

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or hilarious drama

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or dank memes

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since like 2 months after ow came out?

balmy wolf
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I guess?

severe girder
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any you could think of?

balmy wolf
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Not really

toxic yacht
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Talespin was, like, the only American in NV

balmy wolf
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Yep

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Now its a full EU team in NA

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lel

spiral drift
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when will the new team Rly Cool Guys play next? i want to see them play

balmy wolf
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they haven't even played a match yet

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And it says in the article I assume you read

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They're playing in the Alienware Merry Melee this week

spiral drift
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honestly didnt read it. just saw whos on it. and thanks ill be sure to watch it

unkempt quiver
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What day does the Alienware start again? I know when the Envy AFB match is, and I definitely am watching that

balmy wolf
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First match is in 46 hours @unkempt quiver

unkempt quiver
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Got it thanks. I think it should be interesting to see Cloud9 play RlyCoolguys since Reaver and Grego came from C9. Does anyone know why they left?

jovial eagle
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if taimou's stream is indicative of his actual behavior, then yeah i'd say he's toxic

balmy wolf
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He said that his stream personality isn't how he is in a team envrionment

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But I highly doubt that

jovial eagle
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yeah e.e

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but oh well

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no point in speculating

balmy wolf
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He specified when he talked about Talespin leaving that his behaviour on stream is not what he is like in a team envrionment

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and Talespin said a few things about the players of Envy when he left

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and for Taimou just wrote

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"He has good aim."

jovial eagle
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lul

balmy wolf
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Speaks for itself really

severe girder
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lol

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talespin is honestly an amazing pharah player

balmy wolf
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Indeed

frank frigate
toxic yacht
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thanks for the report, they are appreciated, as always

balmy wolf
severe girder
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I appreciate you

toxic yacht
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@severe girder are you gonna lurk around this place more? We are in dire need of more people here

worn cargo
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I'm more people

toxic yacht
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hi more people

severe girder
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no one talks in esports discussion?

toxic yacht
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I'm ShaDowBurn

balmy wolf
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This place feels like #overwatch back in the Summer

severe girder
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i love sporsts

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apwfoawf esports*

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hugely competitive

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i just took a major break

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cuz i went ham first couple months

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then got exhausted and went back to wow for legion for a bit

worn cargo
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Ah, makes sense

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I took a pretty big break too

severe girder
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now im coming back

worn cargo
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Legion's good

severe girder
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tryna catch up on esporsts

worn cargo
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Had to quit though, too much to do

severe girder
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yeah but its getting dry now

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the too much to do becomes nothing needed to do pretty quick

toxic yacht
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nope, barely anyone talks. Except there is a match going on, its usually me or some other dude who posts a message/I post a few updates about tourneys, rosters, etc, but apart from that it's pretty darn dead most of the time

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It lit up during the world cup tho

worn cargo
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As most esports boards tend to do

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I'm a little behind myself, didn't even realize that there's been some roster shuffling

severe girder
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which is weird

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cuz its the same discord

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just no one goes down

balmy wolf
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Ther's like the same 5 people in here all the time

severe girder
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idk id rather talk to people who arent casuals tho

balmy wolf
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Not even really

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I just mostly see Sojum and Draw

worn cargo
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I'm just trying to get a feel for this discord

severe girder
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i feel like if you talked in general discussion about competitive OW youd get flamed

worn cargo
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that makes sense kinda

severe girder
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i love hearing

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im an X main therefore ....

toxic yacht
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eSports also isn't really that big in the Overwatch communits (yet, hopefully). I wish it were a bit more like CS where the main sub and its communities are chock-full of eSports, but not as extreme since it may turn people off who aren't really into the scene yet

worn cargo
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I live and die as a dirty casual flex player

balmy wolf
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@toxic yacht You're going to be watching the Merry Melee right?

severe girder
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@toxic yacht i dont think that will happen

worn cargo
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Played 16 hrs of Hanzo over the two weeks of release

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Then decided I wanted tobe useful

toxic yacht
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Anyway, I somewhat get sidetracked and discuss esports in #general-discussion, discussions usually don't get much traction tho

worn cargo
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to be*

severe girder
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i could explain why it wont happen

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but i would come off as some douchebag for saying the truth

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๐Ÿ˜›

toxic yacht
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I'm definitely gonna watch the melee, but it wont air at awfully EU friendly times

severe girder
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@worn cargo i mean i solo held a point as hanzo the other day

toxic yacht
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Going to need to watch the vods for the matches I miss

worn cargo
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Oh he's good now, but I've been playing so much hitscan that playing hanzo basically makes me want to shoot myself these days

toxic yacht
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I can't play hanzo anymore since they buffed his projectile speed, lul

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I'm much better with slow projectiles

worn cargo
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These days it's a lot of: Ana, D.Va, and 76

severe girder
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eh

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i switch up a lot

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so i dont get rusty on other characters

worn cargo
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I live and die by muscle memory

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So playing too many heroes fucks me up pretty good

toxic yacht
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there is esports discussion in general

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wtf

toxic yacht
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how did I miss it?

severe girder
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also mute the sound

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its embarassing

worn cargo
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I find your excitement amusing

toxic yacht
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lol, your excitement

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that's pretty good tho

severe girder
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xD

balmy wolf
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@toxic yacht The first match is at like 9am GMT on the 1st

severe girder
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i found this really funny when it happened

balmy wolf
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That's not too bad

severe girder
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during the charge

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my head was like

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"push off ledge TURN LEFT HARD"

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i didnt turn left hard enough

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i laughed at the end tho

toxic yacht
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I'll definitely watch the first match, its at 22 in my timezone, it should work. Especially since I'm curious about rly cool guys

severe girder
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i incidentally did what i wanted to do in the first place

toxic yacht
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but the rest

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eh

balmy wolf
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Oh shit

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What timezone are you in?

toxic yacht
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cet

severe girder
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est ftw

toxic yacht
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its an hour ahead of gmt

deft bluff
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central ftw

balmy wolf
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That means its only at 10am for you

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not 10pm

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Anyway

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I just want to see who replaced Roolf on Method

severe girder
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1:05 for me atm

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its 7 pm for cet

toxic yacht
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huh, according to gosu its at 23 cet

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even worse for me then, lul

severe girder
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google

azure coveBOT
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requires 1 arguments (passed 0)

severe girder
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time @ cet

balmy wolf
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Its 7pm in CET

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Right now

toxic yacht
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ye, 7:07

balmy wolf
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You said CET was only an hour ahead of GMT

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and im in GMT

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and its at 9am for me

toxic yacht
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wat, isn't gmt grinnich main time? Isn't that in england, pretty darn sure it is

balmy wolf
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Yeah it is

severe girder
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ew

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eu

balmy wolf
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Oh I counted wrong

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Nevermind lol

severe girder
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the words that are banned on this discord lol

toxic yacht
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lul

severe girder
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E EWW

toxic yacht
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I was already really goddamn confused about what was going on

balmy wolf
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Also apparently Wolf replaced Roolf on Method

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Which is weird because Wolf was on trial for C9 and was replaced by Roolf

toxic yacht
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So they in some sense swapped. Lul

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I'm still really hyped to see c9 play at mlg vegas though

balmy wolf
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I thought C9 were doing shit but out of their last 12 matches they've only lost 1

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I really haven't been keeping up with the scene recently

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Since Apex and APAC

toxic yacht
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I'd go as far as saying that the current roster is the second best in na again, (I also with that nrg can become like luminosity again like and be 3rd in na, a man can dream) so I'm very excited to see them play

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yeah, I've only been keeping up with the numbers while watching apex

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I also watched a few of c9s monthly melee matches

balmy wolf
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I still think Fnatic is #2 in NA

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But yknow, I'm biased

toxic yacht
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Buds?

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Probably buds

balmy wolf
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Just the whole team really

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I love Fnatic

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Which is weird, because I hate their CS team

severe girder
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fnatic is an na team

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wat

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i follow most esports scenes

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and fnatic has always been eu in the big games

toxic yacht
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Everyone hated their CS team. It's hilarious to watch some of the reactions to the boost and see that hate flow through the community

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fnatic is na in ow

deft bluff
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I mean nV is an American team

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With no Americans on it

balmy wolf
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An American Team and Org

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But with all EU players

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kek

toxic yacht
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It must have been especially bad since fnatic went full nv and was winning everything

balmy wolf
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I dont even hate them for Olofboost or anything

toxic yacht
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just their personalites and devilwalk?

balmy wolf
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Mostly Flusha

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Who I believed was hacking up until the day I stopped playing and caring about CS

toxic yacht
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oh. So its a bit like nv were you cannot support them because you hate taimou?

balmy wolf
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Yep

deft bluff
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He just lifts his mouse a lot

balmy wolf
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My favourite team when I was playing CS was NiP

toxic yacht
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I never really cared much about the cs scene (am a silver 1 scrub and didn't feel like going through the effort to get into it), but there were a lot of hackusations leveled at fnatic

balmy wolf
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For reason aswell

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I liked Envy too

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But yknow

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then Kqly was hacking

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Also really liked LDLC

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Which is probably why I liked Envy

severe girder
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oh god flusha

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i hated fnatic

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i didnt like their playstyle at all

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i made it to mge in cs go ๐Ÿ˜›

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my fave was tsm

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when they were a team

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c9 was cool

balmy wolf
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yeah TSM was good in 2015

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Still though

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NiP will always be on top for me

severe girder
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i liked nip also

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the nip vs fnatic thing was awesome for awhile

toxic yacht
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oh wait, the teams are in the talent lineup image

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smh

balmy wolf
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AW SHIT

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STER IS CASTING

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WOOOOO

toxic yacht
#

flame is there

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no uber tho ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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At least ZP is present, huk is there too, for the better or worse

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Ster was a pretty fine caster during the atlantic showdown, so I'm definitely excited to see him again

balmy wolf
#

I hoping for some Ster + ZP action

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I would have much preferred if Uber and Hex were there though

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That would make it way better

#

But this lineup is still good

toxic yacht
#

uber and hex are a thing, dunno why people always feel the need to tear them apart

balmy wolf
#

;-;

toxic yacht
#

I'm gonna miss some of the uber shouting, but the lineup seems solid

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I also never expected to see flame as an anlysist

balmy wolf
#

I love that Rachel is just the host all the time

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If she was a Caster, hell even an analyst, I wouldnt be able to take it

toxic yacht
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Don't think that she's very much a caster/analyst type. She just kinda is. Same with Soe, she also kinda... exists

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inb4 they give flame a drawing tool and project it on-screen

balmy wolf
#

lol

toxic yacht
#

Mickie will play with NV during Vegas :)

quartz wren
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Is Soe in OW nowadays?

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Huuh

toxic yacht
#

she was at dreamhack

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but I've only seen her twice, Rachel has been fucking everywhere up until now

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probably because Soe doesn't feel like flying all around the world, so she's only in EU events. Rachel just needs to move from state to state depending on what is happening due to all of the US events

quartz wren
#

yeah makes sense

plucky vortex
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I liked Soe's Tracer cosplay

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as for her casting, well...

toxic yacht
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can confirm

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is good

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she mostly only hosts, so I don't really care about the casting tbh. She seems to fit more into that role anyway

plucky vortex
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She has a pretty face and a good voice, and seems to be somewhat knowledgable

toxic yacht
#

definitely a pretty face, so I always appreciate seeing her. Yes, I'm also the kind of person whom dva pandering works on

forest raven
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Normies REEEEE

lament plinth
#

YO POLO

#

HOW YA DOIN?

toxic yacht
#

Polo is dead

forest raven
#

@toxic yacht was there a losers match bw CoL and nip?

severe girder
#

i didnt play ow last night

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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got to wrapped up in grimm

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whens the next tourney thats gonna be streamed at?

balmy wolf
#

@lament plinth Hello

toxic yacht
#

@Solaire alienware monthly (this month merry) melee, in 7 hours

severe girder
#

cool

drowsy arrow
#

@severe girder recommend getting the Gosu Chrome app

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tells you next tournament times etc..

toxic yacht
#

ye, I have it installed

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just disable all the other games you don't give a shit about

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^^^link

severe girder
#

ty

pseudo sail
#

Is there anyone that can read korean around up for helping me find a certain match VOD (from the nexus cup)? ^^

toxic yacht
#

here it cum

balmy wolf
#

woop woop

#

Uber, ZP and Slasher

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oh yes

#

Dude

#

ZP's hat

toxic yacht
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I know man

#

its glorious

balmy wolf
#

I need to get him smiling

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for a screenshot

toxic yacht
#

oh, they're still banning...

balmy wolf
#

RCG has better players buut

#

its too early to say

#

who'll win

toxic yacht
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kingdom has more experience as a team, so I wouldn't be shocked if they win

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numbani has been banned

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rip shadder2k

balmy wolf
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Kings row pls

toxic yacht
#

pls ban hanamura

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nice

balmy wolf
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KINGS ROW

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PLS

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fuck

toxic yacht
#

rip

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aaand my internet went to shit

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rip me

balmy wolf
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3rd draft

toxic yacht
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I'll just watch the vod tomorrow ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

balmy wolf
#

well theres a 3rd draft so

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you have time

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Shadder

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jesus

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4k

toxic yacht
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lol

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wonderfuls throw

balmy wolf
#

๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿป

#

Shadder's Genji

toxic yacht
#

no surprise there

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he is one of the best genjis around

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just not really pro

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hope that that changes now

balmy wolf
#

Well he's a pro genji now

toxic yacht
#

I'd put him into the top 5 genjis in the world tbh

balmy wolf
#

I would too

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So are you going to put him in your name?

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:p

toxic yacht
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I'd love to

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I can remove surefour

balmy wolf
#

I'd replace Haksal

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but thats just me

toxic yacht
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Ye, you wanted me to remove him back then anyway

balmy wolf
#

kek

toxic yacht
#

I'll still mostly see. Arhan definitely isn't going, he's the best korean genji I've seen

balmy wolf
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Thats why I chose Haksal

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You could remove Kyb

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and add in 2k

toxic yacht
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ye, kyb could go. He lives on in my heart and all, but he's no pro

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I'll probably shuffle some stuff around soon

#

Will decide who comes and goes then

balmy wolf
#

100-0

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rip

toxic yacht
#

no real surprise there tbh

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I don't expect them to do exceptionally well during their first match

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but quad tank triggers me tbh

#

this is overwatch, not world of tanks

balmy wolf
#

lol

toxic yacht
#

that nanovisor felt like overkill

balmy wolf
#

Wonderfuls dropped shield

toxic yacht
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yup

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lul

balmy wolf
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got a 5 man earthshatter

toxic yacht
#

wonderfuls trying to throw again

balmy wolf
#

wonderfuls pls

toxic yacht
#

edge boost

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100%

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no way he'd get there so fast otherwise

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I'll have to watch that part again in the vod

balmy wolf
#

shadder was the first to die

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he could have gotten back

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i wouldnt doubt it

toxic yacht
#

I thought that he was a bit too far away during the overtime meter, but there are no proper edgeboost spots there in my experience

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so he was probably just fast

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because of his spawn

balmy wolf
#

The only thing he could have boosted off is that cylinder thing

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And that would have launched him outside the point

#

I think he just walked back

toxic yacht
#

ye, so it most like wasn't a boost

balmy wolf
#

I feel bad for shadder

#

this is the worst meta he could have come into pro play in

toxic yacht
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yup

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he should have come during 2/2/2

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that was genji heaven

balmy wolf
#

Genji, Tracer, Reaper

#

all pretty much useless in this meta

toxic yacht
#

except you are misfits

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lol

balmy wolf
#

Yeah well SoOn is like

toxic yacht
#

they'll just run triple dps into 3 tanks

balmy wolf
#

#1 Tracer

toxic yacht
#

2 flankers and fucking widowmaker

#

I still can't belive it, tbh

balmy wolf
#

I wish Reu was still popular

#

I loved watching them play

#

Vallu's Tracer was godlike

toxic yacht
#

I mean, they did play during apex

balmy wolf
#

3-2-1 and 2-2-2

toxic yacht
#

if I ignore haksal they did okay

balmy wolf
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Yeah I know

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thats why i didnt say "i wish they were still a thing"

#

When Kyb left it feels like they just like

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lost all confidence

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or something

toxic yacht
#

kyb was also an amazing genji. But they also underperformed during the owopen, although kyb was there

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I feel like it's just the current meta

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kyb leaving also didn't help

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at all

#

reaver on widow now?

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nice

balmy wolf
#

tbh I liked the pro scene the most before all the LANs started

toxic yacht
#

I didn't care about OW during that phase, so I cannot really comment on that

balmy wolf
#

Thats when I watched it most

#

From release up until a little after the Open

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I like

#

completely stopped when APAC, Apex and MSI were on

#

Shadder is kind of having the same problem Mendo was at first

#

He keeps switching

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Not gaining any traction

#

Apparently C9 Vs Liquid is on too

toxic yacht
#

love it how multiple matches happen at once

balmy wolf
#

Oh wait

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Its just starting

toxic yacht
#

I have 4 eyes and 2 brains, you know

balmy wolf
#

Cant forget that Shadder has really high ping

toxic yacht
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wtf was that nanovisor from reaver

#

oh yeah, he's still in eu

balmy wolf
#

Definitely 100+

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I wouldn't doubt 200 tbh

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considering he's in Romania

toxic yacht
#

120+ in my experience

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but 120 ping when connecting to others countrys servers are weird

#

I, like, play with 160 when I'm on na servers

balmy wolf
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Are you in Romania?

toxic yacht
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nah, austria, but I'm saying that even when I use eu 20 ping internet I get 120+ to na. What I'm saying is that it's most definitely fairly high

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especially since he is in romania

#

dafuq was that self destruct?

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lul

balmy wolf
#

He got a kill

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

damn

#

nice hold

toxic yacht
#

gj ๐Ÿ‘

balmy wolf
#

that hook from shadder on j3sus

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๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป

#

These 4-2 comps

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are killing me

toxic yacht
#

I already hated 3-2-1

#

this 4-2 is pure rubbish

balmy wolf
#

I just wanna see more 2-2-2

#

So I can see shadder and reaver sweep

toxic yacht
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I mean, blizzard didn't even intend people to use more than 2 tanks, evidenced by the menu tips, lul

#

I miss 2/2/

#

you actially had firefights

balmy wolf
#

RIP 2-2-2

#

2015-2016

#

Pharmercy

#

Ooo

toxic yacht
#

and proper skirmishes, instead of this stupid "lucky pick" and "use ults to murder everyone" thing

balmy wolf
#

2-1-3?

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Never seen this before

toxic yacht
#

pharmercy and grego on widow

balmy wolf
#

dude

#

instant cap

#

yuss

toxic yacht
#

they definitely weren't expecting this

#

this is great

#

okay, I'm dozing

pseudo sail
#

btw you two know you can PM on discord right? ๐Ÿ˜‚ whenever I check the channel it's always just you two talking about smth ๐Ÿ˜‚

balmy wolf
#

At least stay until the end of this round @toxic yacht

toxic yacht
#

I'm trying

balmy wolf
#

@pseudo sail If we talked in PMs this channel would be dead

toxic yacht
#

but I missed the entire tunnel segment

balmy wolf
#

This channel is for esports

#

mirror comp

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3-2-1 mirror comp

toxic yacht
#

After seeing 4-2, nothing triggers me anymore

balmy wolf
#

lel

pseudo sail
#

what dps & who's playing @balmy wolf

toxic yacht
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shadder2k my friend

balmy wolf
#

the 1 dps was 76

pseudo sail
#

also most people I've seen are trying to standartize it support-tank-dps, you should help spread the word ๐Ÿ˜„

balmy wolf
#

Reaver for RCG and J3sus for Kingdom

#

Its changed now though

pseudo sail
#

by using it ๐Ÿ˜›

#

anyone running mei?

balmy wolf
#

Anyone who follows the scene knows its Tank-Support-DPS

toxic yacht
#

yep

#

shadder is on mei

balmy wolf
#

so im not changing

#

Wasted nanovisor

#

rip

toxic yacht
#

rcg's nanovisors are fucking terrible

pseudo sail
#

oki thx

toxic yacht
#

while nanovisors are j3sus's speciality

#

lul

balmy wolf
#

In Reaver's mind: "Hey, lets nanovisor into this Rein shield and Defense Matrix."

toxic yacht
#

imagine, surefour had to carry someone like him for months

balmy wolf
#

I always felt bad for S4 when he was playing with Reaver

#

Like

#

There was one match

#

Control Center Lijiang

#

Reaver on Reaper

#

The camera was on him for ages

#

he was doing nothing

#

shooting at nothing, getting no kills

#

ulted no one

#

god it was terrible

#

Shadder on Genji

toxic yacht
#

Looking at how the team has been performing since rogue beating them really makes me feel bad four surefour

balmy wolf
#

four surefour

toxic yacht
#

wat

#

lel

balmy wolf
#

you said four surefour

toxic yacht
#

it's very clear that surefour was doing everything in his power to win

balmy wolf
#

instead of for surefour

toxic yacht
#

ye, I saw it

#

it was "four sourefour" at the beginning

balmy wolf
#

New C9 has been doing good so far though

toxic yacht
#

I somewhate fixed it

balmy wolf
#

Its still four surefour

toxic yacht
#

new c9 looks amazing

#

I can't wait for mlg

#

as I said, somewhat fixed

#

I'm not fixing the "four"

balmy wolf
#

.>

toxic yacht
#

"getting killed by jesus"

#

lmao

balmy wolf
#

SHADDER

toxic yacht
#

shadder carrying

balmy wolf
#

They did bad on Ilios, then did better on Holly and now are doing great on Kings Row

#

It's like they're charging up

toxic yacht
#

*lijiang

#

yup, they are getting better with every match

balmy wolf
#

Oh right yeah

#

Ilios was the 2nd draft map

toxic yacht
#

maybe koth just isn't theirs

balmy wolf
#

lol

#

gg

toxic yacht
#

nice

balmy wolf
#

wow juvenille

#

instantly leaving

#

the bm

toxic yacht
#

the salt

#

reaver also left really fast

#

lol

#

you saw the chat

#

?

#

"Kingdom, stay pls"

balmy wolf
#

The twitch chat?

toxic yacht
#

nope, in-game chat

balmy wolf
#

I saw reaver say thanks

#

dont know what to

#

New team, first game in their history

#

they play 2-1-3

#

and win

toxic yacht
#

looking good already

balmy wolf
#

๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

toxic yacht
#

but pls no liquid hate

#

#quakelivesmatter

balmy wolf
#

fuk u liquid

#

those highlights are nice

toxic yacht
#

ye, I'm tired as fuck and will probably skip my first class tomorrow

#

*today

balmy wolf
#

lel

#

so you're staying?

toxic yacht
#

that winston highlight tho

balmy wolf
#

or going to bed?

toxic yacht
#

bed

balmy wolf
#

rip

toxic yacht
#

I'm also skipping my nightly shower

#

too tired

balmy wolf
#

now ill just have to watch on my own

#

Night man

toxic yacht
#

Well, now we know how DrawLords always feels

#

Night!

balmy wolf
#

lol

forest raven
#

@balmy wolf Watching c9 vs. RCG?

balmy wolf
#

Kind of

#

I was

#

Then went to try T2

#

Wasnt as fun as I thought it'd be

forest raven
#

rip

#

Well c9's up 2-0 atm

balmy wolf
#

Yeah they won

#

Not surprising really

#

dissapointing though

forest raven
#

So

#

Kingdom beat c9

#

RCG beat Kingdom

#

And now c9 is beating RCG

balmy wolf
#

C9 beat Liquid
RCG beat Kingdom
Liquid beat RCG
Kingdom beat C9
Liquid beat Kingdom
C9 beat RCG

forest raven
#

๐Ÿค”

#

So everyone has at least one win so far

#

And Liquid has 2

#

And c9's looking to have 2 as well

balmy wolf
#

C9 has 2 aswell

forest raven
#

Well they haven't beat RCG yet

balmy wolf
#

Yeah they have

forest raven
#

What

#

Oh

#

It's bo3

balmy wolf
#

They beat them 2-0

forest raven
#

ofc

balmy wolf
#

lol

forest raven
#

I thought it was bo5 ๐Ÿค”

#

Aww shit time for mah boi Harb

balmy wolf
#

Im backing IMT

forest raven
#

I'm a stramer fanboy tbh

#

I like c9 because I love Surefour's and Mendo's streams, and I like CoL because I love Harb's streams

#

@balmy wolf Was there a loser's match b/w CoL and NiP at Dreamhack?

balmy wolf
#

No

forest raven
#

ic

#

@balmy wolf Who are Kingdom?

#

I've never heard of them

balmy wolf
#

A team...?

forest raven
#

Who's on it?

balmy wolf
#

manOFsnow
ConnorJ
J3sus
Ajax
Sherlockey
Juv3nile

forest raven
#

ty

#

AGAIN

#

COMPLEXITY

balmy wolf
#

DH all over again

#

kek

forest raven
#

NOOOOO

#

MY BOYS

balmy wolf
#

rekt

forest raven
#

WTF

#

My boys keep getting fucked over like this

#

God damnit

#

I feel so bad

balmy wolf
#

get

#

rekt

forest raven
#

You're a bad person, Polo

balmy wolf
#

Kingdom and C9 in Winners bracket

#

wew

#

That group

#

was ridiculous

#

Everyone was beating everyone

forest raven
#

ikr

#

๐Ÿ‘ go go c9

balmy wolf
#

C9 beat Liquid
RCG beat Kingdom
Liquid beat RCG
Kingdom beat C9
Kingdom beat Liquid
C9 beat RCG

#

๐Ÿ˜ Server error ๐Ÿ˜

forest raven
#

Oh wow

#

CoL is doing worse

#

Kill me

#

I hate my life

#

Why does this have to happen to CoL

balmy wolf
#

Because they deserve it :^]

forest raven
#

Fuck you Polo

balmy wolf
#

:^]

forest raven
#

They don't ;_;

#

Harb's an innocent butterfly

balmy wolf
#

B :^]

#

B :^]

#

B :^]

#

B :^]

#

B :^]

#

B:^]

#

B^]

forest raven
balmy wolf
#

^ das u

forest raven
#

Of course it's me

#

CoL was rolling through third point on Eich of all maps

#

Then the server crashes

#

Then they can't get 2nd

balmy wolf
#

rekt

forest raven
#

THen get rolled on defence

#

Why wouldn't I be salty

#

CoL keeps getting fucked over in ways completely out of their control

balmy wolf
#

rekt

forest raven
#

Chaotic Evil

#

That's you, Polo

balmy wolf
#

Chaotic Neutral actually

forest raven
#

From what I'm seeing here atm?

#

Complete and utter bullshit

balmy wolf
#

I did the Alignment Test

#

fuk u

forest raven
#

Are you fucking kidding me

#

I'm done

#

I'm out

balmy wolf
#

y

forest raven
#

I'm so fucking sick of this shit

balmy wolf
#

what shit

forest raven
#

You know what shit Polo

balmy wolf
#

i dont though

forest raven
#

Go fuck yourself :)

balmy wolf
#

i really dont know though

forest raven
#

Hollywood crashed

balmy wolf
#

Holy shit really?

#

hahahaha

#

rip coL

forest raven
#

Mah bois ;_;

crude citrus
#

Esporsts, is jus th gaem

forest raven
#

Thank you for the contribution

#

@balmy wolf Group B has three teams with 6 points

severe girder
#

esports and xb1 kek

forest raven
#

๐Ÿค”

#

I hope you realise the platform you play on doesn't restrict you from what you can watch

severe girder
#

troof

balmy wolf
#

@forest raven What in the what

toxic yacht
#

btw, miro streams now

#

his name is "A_Miro" because he's a big Seagull fan and Seagull is "A_Seagull" too

#

Pros are such fanboys, lol

worn cargo
#

That's fucking amazing

#

Tviq has been streaming today and watching him play tanks/supports is sort of amusing if nothing else

#

His hero pool is absurd

jagged crater
#

tviq is good at video games in general

toxic yacht
#

tviq is kinda good at overwatch

balmy wolf
#

he's okay

pseudo sail
#

hey folks, if you want to check out my preview & predictions of tomorrow's final in apex between EnVyUS & Afreeca Freecs Blue and don't mind a bit of an accent https://youtu.be/BP03Ws3soDo

worthy yacht
#

I wonder if we'll see any sombra or torb tomorrow

pseudo sail
#

I touch a bit on that, but you'll need to suffer trough the thing ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

#

and you can also tell me if it's actually understandable if you manage to sit trough a bit of it ๐Ÿ˜‚

forest raven
#

@balmy wolf @toxic yacht coL vs. FaZe on Eich, game crashed again

balmy wolf
#

HAHAHAHA

#

COL WAS CRUSHING THEM TOO

#

HAHAHA