#esports-discussion | Overwatch | Page 709

shut pendant Oct 15, 2016, 1:23 PM

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RIP Strim

hearty igloo Oct 15, 2016, 1:42 PM

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oh yeah, massive stomp

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I guess I can just watch this to learn.

shut pendant Oct 15, 2016, 1:42 PM

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I knew something was weird becaue NGA as the last standing Cn team? makes zero sense

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Please not another tie

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if its a tie we go again.......

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pure dominance

hearty igloo Oct 15, 2016, 1:55 PM

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This is their best translator.

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Pretty good. I kind of expected worse.

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Wow, pretty honest response.

shut pendant Oct 15, 2016, 1:57 PM

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Yeah I saw the translator for the Seagull interview on day 1

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she wasn't strong enough and fellover her words

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still, its a skill I could never achieve so I won't bash her on it

prime wave Oct 15, 2016, 5:12 PM

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RIP NRG... again

potent tulip Oct 15, 2016, 8:16 PM

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Rip

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But the enemies were goddamn asians, what did you guess?

balmy wolf Oct 15, 2016, 8:20 PM

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Teemo got fined for being lewd in twitch chat about an interviewer

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what

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We are big boys now, and we will behave like ones!

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He went on twitch chat while someone from Reunited was getting interviewed and made lewd remarks about the interviewer

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So he got fined

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“gonna check those pantsus when im getting interviewed LUL,”

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and

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“I wanna explore that interviewer girls thighs Keepo.”

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what do you mean fined?

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Not that big a deal, but it's a finable offense so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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a revocation of the fight money for Friday’s match, valued at approximately $630.

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fight money?

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what

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You know, a monetary penalization for an infraction

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No

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Like when you have to pay money for not following laws on the road

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he got fined

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Polo, this is how society works

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for talking

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in twitch chat

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l o l

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Um, yes

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That is a ok since he is not just some twitch commenter, but an esport personality the interviewer is gonna have to deal with in the future

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This is the equivalent of a coworker making sexual remarks about another coworker in a work enviroment

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oh it wasnt some rando?

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That is not ok in any work enviroment, except for the porn industry, probably

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When I say "Teemo" I mean "Taimou"

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:P

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Why not just say Taimou :T

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They are phonetically the same!

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Anyway, teemo got fined and that made me giggle

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Not the way I pronounce his name it isnt

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Oh thats right

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My bad, I was thinking in Spanish

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As usual I guess

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wut

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Spanish speakers will get my wordplay

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huehuehue

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I know the way I pronounce Taimou is wrong but I dont think Teemo is right either

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its like

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Teemo is how Timo would be pronounced in Spanish

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Yeah its supposed to be Timo

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apparently

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Yeah

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like Tim-oh I think

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I still just say Taymoo :p

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As most do

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TEEMOH FTW

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This is the most I've talked in this channel

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What an inconsequential little convo, back to serious biz

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I'm pretty surprised he would say that though

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I mean

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I see the way he acts on stream sometimes

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but still

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I'm not exactly surprised but I'm a little disappointed that he didn't know better

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maybe do it on an alt acc next time buddy

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Twitch chat is and will always be cancer, yes, but as a personality, you are held to a higher standard

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:^]

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Pro-twitch tips

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Since I'm already here

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Is NRG still in the competition?

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Dont think so

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Thought so

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I think LH knocked them out

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tbh i thought Rogue would take this tourney easy

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EZ

inner sequoia Oct 15, 2016, 8:36 PM

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I wonder if its actually pronounced "tai mo".

balmy wolf Oct 15, 2016, 8:45 PM

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Its Timo

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Like his actual name

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yeah

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Tim-Oh

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Tim-Oh's

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grab em while you can

toxic yacht Oct 15, 2016, 9:24 PM

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ye, grab em before he explores your thighs

balmy wolf Oct 15, 2016, 9:32 PM

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Gonna get his Tim all up that O ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

half hazel Oct 15, 2016, 9:43 PM

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its Thigh-mou

balmy wolf Oct 15, 2016, 9:44 PM

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No it isnt lol

humble plover Oct 15, 2016, 11:02 PM

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https://www.twitch.tv/catafortune

sick badge Oct 16, 2016, 2:17 AM

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https://www.twitch.tv/hsstarleague2

valid schooner Oct 16, 2016, 2:39 AM

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Guys, I feel like im too quiet in voice com's. So what should I be keeping my team informed of@?

balmy wolf Oct 16, 2016, 3:00 AM

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When is the Korean thing ending?

reef elbow Oct 16, 2016, 3:19 AM

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did anybody see the scores for the MGA AM Qualifier? I don't want to spoil it but...

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how o.O

tranquil fractal Oct 16, 2016, 4:40 AM

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These casters for the MGA are garbage

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They keep saying die die die and fire at will and just constantly talk

chilly sphinx Oct 16, 2016, 5:02 AM

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@valid schooner Start with warning the team about an incoming reaper that only you can see, that's excellent already

shut pendant Oct 16, 2016, 9:17 AM

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Are we ready for some APAC finals!

potent tulip Oct 16, 2016, 12:42 PM

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https://youtu.be/Zl8R1PW_woU

vestal mortar Oct 16, 2016, 12:44 PM

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Tviq is incredible 👌

torn walrus Oct 16, 2016, 1:32 PM

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Tviq is on fire

inland bay Oct 16, 2016, 1:42 PM

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hey guys. is there a site that gives out stats on a per esports match basis? Overbuff's esports tabs only gives stats on hero usage

gentle shuttle Oct 16, 2016, 1:42 PM

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u want gosugamers.net/overwatch my man

inland bay Oct 16, 2016, 1:42 PM

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you are a saint, thanks!

gentle shuttle Oct 16, 2016, 1:42 PM

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np! 🐷

inland bay Oct 16, 2016, 1:43 PM

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kinda want to track the APAC per matchup stats

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cause honestly LH bringing back Genji is so dope

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to answer the Ana strats

gentle shuttle Oct 16, 2016, 1:43 PM

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over.gg is another site u should bookmark too, to keep up with roster updates, upcoming events and it has a live match countdown thing which is super useful

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yeah LH are really, really good

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this sets been great and im glad Rogue have been able to best them

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LH destroyed them earlier in the tourney twice

inland bay Oct 16, 2016, 1:44 PM

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yeah, saw that one. that was the first time i saw the genji back after the nerf. its been refreshing

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but i kinda want to see the stats breakdown since then

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i want to see if its been actually useful or is beyblade strat still just better

gentle shuttle Oct 16, 2016, 1:46 PM

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genji still gets a fair amount of play in the pro scene

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the genji strat is called a dive comp

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you have winston+ genji/tracer and they jump on the backline

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beyblade strat still better than it, but if your team has a strong genji then it's worth pulling out

inland bay Oct 16, 2016, 1:50 PM

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Yeah, probably still overall more useful. genji's great on maps with a lot of verticality though.

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oh god hollywood

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might be a 4-1 here

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 10:04 AM

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now that APAC is over, could we get it removed from the title thingy :3

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OGN's live https://www.twitch.tv/ognglobal

tidal thicket Oct 17, 2016, 10:07 AM

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ogn is the tourney in korea right?

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 10:07 AM

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yes sir!

vestal mortar Oct 17, 2016, 10:07 AM

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Indeed!

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 10:07 AM

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last for about 3 weeks or so

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NRG and Rogue are there now too

tidal thicket Oct 17, 2016, 10:08 AM

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oh nice

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im kinda new to the esport side of overwatch, though

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 10:10 AM

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its cool ur in the right channel : )

tidal thicket Oct 17, 2016, 10:11 AM

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anything as a viewer I should pay attention to?

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besides gameplay obv

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 10:11 AM

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i dunno, production value maybe? lol

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APAC and APEX have godlikeee production value its incredible

vestal mortar Oct 17, 2016, 10:12 AM

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Yeah I've been loving the production value

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 10:12 AM

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da bess

vestal mortar Oct 17, 2016, 10:13 AM

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All the stats and highlights make me a happy viewer

tidal thicket Oct 17, 2016, 10:13 AM

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woah these graphixxxx

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10/10

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 10:13 AM

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yeah its dope right

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the augmented reality stats

tidal thicket Oct 17, 2016, 10:13 AM

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thanks ogn

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koth is bo3 and not bo5?

vestal mortar Oct 17, 2016, 10:25 AM

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I think it will go to bo5 later on in the competition, it's still the early rounds right now.

tidal thicket Oct 17, 2016, 10:26 AM

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ah I see, everything else is pretty much the same in comp mode right?

vestal mortar Oct 17, 2016, 10:27 AM

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I believe so!

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 10:36 AM

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yup yup

tidal thicket Oct 17, 2016, 10:37 AM

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thanks guys!

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 10:46 AM

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what is this match lmao

tidal thicket Oct 17, 2016, 10:51 AM

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it was so one sided

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 10:53 AM

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worst set of OW i've ever seen

tidal thicket Oct 17, 2016, 10:53 AM

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great intro in esports lol

vestal mortar Oct 17, 2016, 11:01 AM

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Yeah, that was awful. I guess NRG will have an easy game against MVP space on Wednesday.

opaque owl Oct 17, 2016, 11:02 AM

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I'm glad seagull's got tourneys

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But I wish he could stream

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 11:17 AM

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yup its gonna be a while before everyone gets back home

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they've got blizzcon after this too

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i think that MSI tourney is later today not sure tho

vestal mortar Oct 17, 2016, 11:28 AM

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It's a busy time of the year!

vestal mortar Oct 17, 2016, 12:13 PM

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What was Envy doing on Volskaya right now? D:

crimson edge Oct 17, 2016, 12:13 PM

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It always makes me happy when I see a Dva Mei stall build get its asshole blown out

floral perch Oct 17, 2016, 2:16 PM

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What game was it in the apec (i think) that had the attack bastion that rolled the team

distant pawn Oct 17, 2016, 2:58 PM

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@floral perch it was APEX, BK Stars vs MVP Space

pseudo sail Oct 17, 2016, 3:32 PM

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Hey guys if you missed today's action in OGN's Apex you can catch up quickly with my overview. The match-ups for today were Kongdoo UNCIA vs MVP Space and Conbox T6(gamsu's team) vs EnVyUS.

https://medium.com/@followradon/overview-of-ogns-apex-group-stage-day-5-c09037fc7480

balmy wolf Oct 17, 2016, 3:33 PM

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So who won APAC?

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And if Apex is over, who won that?

pseudo sail Oct 17, 2016, 3:34 PM

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Apex hasn't finished yet

balmy wolf Oct 17, 2016, 3:34 PM

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And APAC?

pseudo sail Oct 17, 2016, 3:34 PM

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We are still going trough the group stages

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PMed you as some might not want spoilers 😃

balmy wolf Oct 17, 2016, 3:36 PM

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Well not really surprised that they won tbh

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I was expecting them to stomp from the start but the Asian teams surprised me

cunning gate Oct 17, 2016, 3:44 PM

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Can you tell me via pm too? @pseudo sail

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 4:05 PM

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MSI tourney continues in an hour http://www.over.gg/

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heard the casters are

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not so gud

balmy wolf Oct 17, 2016, 4:06 PM

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They're pretty shit

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 4:07 PM

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i wasnt even aware that it'd been going on all this time till someone said how bad the casters were

balmy wolf Oct 17, 2016, 4:07 PM

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I knew for awhile

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been getting pings in mendo's discord when c9 plays

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 4:11 PM

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catching one of the vods they're not that bad

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 4:27 PM

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i take that back

floral perch Oct 17, 2016, 4:46 PM

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@distant pawn no it wasn't that game. I want to say it was one of NRG's games though

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 4:55 PM

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MSI tourney is live https://www.twitch.tv/msigamingameu

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 4:55 PM

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in class U_U

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 4:56 PM

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nerdddddd

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 4:56 PM

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zoro pls

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out here playing Guilty Gear, calling me a nerd

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😛

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 5:08 PM

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🐷

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@balmy wolf Oreo called us a nerd

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 5:15 PM

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I play Guilty Gear a bit too lol

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 5:24 PM

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tsbLimit tsbSplit

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 5:28 PM

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play more Street Fighter and Smash though

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 5:29 PM

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i wanna give V a solid shot but the netcode is so bad

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it was fine when i was playing the beta on my ps4 though. Too bad i dont have a ps4 stick

balmy wolf Oct 17, 2016, 6:06 PM

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lolololol

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I'm proud to be a GG nerd :P

weary glen Oct 17, 2016, 6:19 PM

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Trying to figure out this mic shit

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 6:29 PM

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holy shit

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NIP just got their 2nd perfect game

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Double perfect

fathom gust Oct 17, 2016, 6:39 PM

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why are esport games stop watch but not ranked

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 6:42 PM

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they havent been stopwatch ever since timebank came to payload maps

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inb4 tripple perfect

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...tripple perfect.

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quad perfect G fckin G

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 7:35 PM

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@balmy wolf you do like Elphelt right?

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right?!

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 7:41 PM

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omg

balmy wolf Oct 17, 2016, 7:52 PM

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omg

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Of course you would like the literal waifu character lol @solid spear

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She is nice lol

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She has my favorite theme in the game

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 7:54 PM

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hey hey

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I dont like her, cuz waifu

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and why are yall like omg lol

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 7:55 PM

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have u

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played against Elphelt

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 7:55 PM

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Im too busy playing with her

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 7:55 PM

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lol fair

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i heard she got nerfed pretty hard in Rev so maybe its not so rough anymore

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 7:55 PM

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she did

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 7:56 PM

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cant wait till it comes to PC

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gonna pick up Johnny

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 7:56 PM

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shes still good though

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 7:56 PM

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u ever see Lost Souls elphelt?

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 7:56 PM

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oh you dont have a PS4?

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 7:57 PM

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i have ps4 but it lives in my little brothers room

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he doesnt have a pc or anything so thats kinda his thing to do stuff on lol

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 7:57 PM

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oh U_U

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 7:57 PM

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havent played since the first Nioh beta

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 7:59 PM

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thats where I do most of my gaming

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oh and 3ds but thats a totally different thing

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but yeah...

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esports

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 8:00 PM

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u see the NIP games?

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 8:00 PM

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not yet

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 8:00 PM

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they didnt die all set

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 8:00 PM

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howd they go

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oh wow

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 8:00 PM

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ALL

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 8:00 PM

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who were they playing

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 8:00 PM

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SET

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quad perfect, counting each round

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a team i havent heard of before i forgot the name

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Dignitas game was pretty free too

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rough seeding

solid spear Oct 17, 2016, 8:05 PM

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I dont even know who played today at all

gentle shuttle Oct 17, 2016, 8:06 PM

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over.gg

balmy wolf Oct 17, 2016, 9:56 PM

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I played a bunch of Revelator yesterday and apparently Slayer is literal bottom tier now? Like, Potemkin is above him

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I would cry if I gave a shit. I will main him forever.

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No one did answer me when I asked when the Korean competition ends

opaque owl Oct 17, 2016, 10:32 PM

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There's a player called

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Potemkin

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Lol

robust lodge Oct 17, 2016, 11:24 PM

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What do you think envyuses chances for blizzcon are ?

balmy wolf Oct 17, 2016, 11:25 PM

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Im sorry, what?

robust lodge Oct 17, 2016, 11:25 PM

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what ?

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isnt there a major next month ?

vestal mortar Oct 17, 2016, 11:28 PM

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Some of Envy's members are at Blizzcon but they're on different teams for the world cup. Is that what you're talking about?

robust lodge Oct 17, 2016, 11:35 PM

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oh

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yeah

coral radish Oct 18, 2016, 12:06 AM

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Hey guys, I'm attending BlizzCon this year, and to pass sometime, I'll be hanging out watching the Overwatch competition shit. I'm not following Overwatch esports at all. Any people or teams to look out for so I can warm up to BlizzCon?

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 12:14 AM

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The Blizzcon tourney is a lot less serious because, technically anyway, there's no prize at the end for who comes 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc.

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Also the teams are players from the same country

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Not actual eSports teams

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 12:40 AM

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Yeah, EnvyUs isn't participating

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it's players are, but representing their respective home countries

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Not as "Envy"

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Sweden is going to dominate this tourney.

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Eh, I dunno about that

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I have no predictions for the World Cup finals since there are so many great players shuffled around

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I have no idea which teams will have the best synergy, 'cuz there is talent everywhere

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I'll always be rooting for USA

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for my boy ster

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Mah boi Talespin is there too

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And it would be nice to see Seagull on a winning team, for once

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Then again, I'm also rooting for Spain and Canada

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Team Canda

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Has poke

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r i p

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ik ik

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I'm hoping Sure4 can carry him

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he aint that good

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ID and Sure4 though

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Their team looks alright

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Also with Team Sweden, im just going off of how stacked they are

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TviQ and Iddqd

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<3

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Team Germany is looking pretty good too

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I don't put that much stock into TviQ and iddqd. Sure they are good, but not exceptionally so compared to everyone else

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In my eyes

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Oh shit Chips is there too

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kk

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They are pretty stacked

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It is known.

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wait a minute

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Is babybay Jerma?

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No

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Jerma's account is called SqueakySquak

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kk

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Who the fuck is babybay then?

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'cuz I hate him

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And I hate Jerma, so I thought I was onto something

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Idk man

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Where did you find him?

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Is he on a team?

wanton bronze Oct 18, 2016, 1:19 AM

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I'd be rooting for the UK if we didn't suck dick already. 😦

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Is there like a site where we can see what teams are left?

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 1:20 AM

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I can tell you which are left

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Germany, Finland, France, Sweden, Russia, Spain, USA, Canada, Brazil, China, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Thailand, ANZ. @wanton bronze

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They're all here too https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20279912

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:p

wanton bronze Oct 18, 2016, 1:25 AM

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👍

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 2:38 AM

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Mendo just said on stream that RN 2-0'd C9

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when did this happen

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and how

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RN?

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Rise Nation

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man I wish liquipedia wasnt so shit

vestal mortar Oct 18, 2016, 7:51 AM

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RN 2-0'd C9 2 days ago 😮

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 8:32 AM

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Rise Nation is actually really good

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 9:45 AM

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never heard of them

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 10:08 AM

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u guys see the double perfect NIP set last night though?

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thats gotta be up there with the EnvyUS spawn camping Complexity on Dorado shit

vestal mortar Oct 18, 2016, 10:20 AM

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I will have to watch it later!

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 10:25 AM

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🐷

solid spear Oct 18, 2016, 2:44 PM

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Rise Nation has swept new c9, the 2 times they've played

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I started following them when they knocked out Complexity in groups for OW open

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 2:53 PM

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I mean, most teams apart from fnatic and envyus who made it to teh playoffs seem like they could beat eachother any day

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 2:54 PM

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Rise Nation is indeed an intresting team to follow, not a lot of big names but they have 6 impressive players.

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 2:57 PM

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I never actually followed rise nation, I only saw their match against nrg back in the qualifiers, but they seemed fairly strong there

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no surprise that they beat c9, especially since c9 just lost half their roster and are still doing tryouts

orchid iris Oct 18, 2016, 3:00 PM

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They won a cow open as "gecko fox" if you want to find more vods

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Individually pretty impressive

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:03 PM

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what about Method, have they been playing since the Open

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Snow~

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Ultimawep~

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:04 PM

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method is surprisingly strong, I doubt that anyone expected them to beat c9

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:04 PM

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yeah

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:04 PM

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well, c9 beat them during the losers bracket, but its still impressive for a team that I didn't have too high expectations for going in

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:04 PM

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they had a great showing

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:04 PM

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especially ultimawep, the dudes a beast

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:05 PM

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Method is a strong team with good individual players, but sadly they failed the dreamhack quialifier against FaZe by losing 2-1

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:05 PM

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method also seem like all around really cool people

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:05 PM

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I think if method will focus more on teamplay they could be a top tier team

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:05 PM

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Now that faze is a us team, I could honestly put them up as, maybe the 3rd best in the usa after envy and fnatic

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:06 PM

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complexity

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:06 PM

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Faze is very strong, although I have yet to watch them go up against a us team, I haven't kept too much track of the smaller tournaments, not enough time

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:06 PM

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wouldn't expect them to beat FaZ

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:06 PM

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is also a good team though

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:06 PM

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FaZe*

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:06 PM

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well in the dreamhack qualifier the finished second

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and qualified

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:06 PM

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i'd like to see FaZe vs Fnatic vs new C9 in a round robin tbh to see who's #2 NA

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:07 PM

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I'd assume that envy finished first?

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:07 PM

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nope

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Fnatic

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:07 PM

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actually FaZe has faced C9 recently though i forget the results

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:07 PM

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envy is in korea

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so Envy didnt partcipate

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:07 PM

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huh, okay, fnatic. But yeah, fnatic is pretty good to

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oh yeah, thighmou

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I forgot, apex

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:07 PM

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x'D

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:09 PM

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oh shit, lunatic hai is going up against envy?

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:09 PM

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mmm

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:09 PM

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@gentle shuttle Cloud9 won with 3-1 in the alienware monthly against FaZe?

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i think you mean that match?

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:09 PM

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yeah thats the one, thanks

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:10 PM

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Lunatic Hai is a strong team for the korean scene but not as good as envy

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:10 PM

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idk about that

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it'll make for a great set regardless

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:10 PM

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in the APAC finals envy won with 4-1

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:10 PM

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I had like really high hopes for the new C9

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:10 PM

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the new c9 would be intresting

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:10 PM

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Envy faced Lunatic Hai already?

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:10 PM

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They're better than before imo but they're still not doing particularly well

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:10 PM

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give c9 some time

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:10 PM

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Yeah they did

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:11 PM

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man im forgetting so much shit

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:11 PM

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in the APAC premier

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:11 PM

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they only recently got their new roster

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surefour + mendo could be devastating

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:11 PM

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Mendo + Surefour trade between eachother for 4ks

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that duo is really fun to watch

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and the both of them can play the same heroes without much drop off in performance

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:12 PM

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lol, reminds me of c9 of the old days

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:12 PM

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I feel like mendo is better than him though

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:12 PM

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It was a plessure to watch surefour and mendo at the alienware

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:12 PM

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a little bit

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:12 PM

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I bet they miss hero stacking

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:13 PM

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when they start fraggin out it looks like they're just streaming pub play

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:14 PM

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I just hope that c9 becomes better again

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I see potential, I'll just give them some time

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:15 PM

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they've got Ryb the gawd too

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:15 PM

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If it doesnt work out they're getting a new roster I think

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At least a new DPS

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:15 PM

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oh shit, ryb joined too

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:15 PM

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pretty sure Roolfe was playing support for them the other day too

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:15 PM

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Because Mendo is only on trial

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:15 PM

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during the MSI tourney

orchid iris Oct 18, 2016, 3:15 PM

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Krawnic is my big monkwy

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:15 PM

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yeah, mendo, ryb and roolfe are all on trial iirc

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the current roster isnt final

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:16 PM

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kinda wish one of the moderators would update the current tourney thing at the top ^

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should remove APAC and include the MSI one

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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ye, its misleading

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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Got arm on it

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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they're looking for new mods though

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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arm is a mod again?

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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Yes

wheat karma Oct 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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Yah

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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dont think there's a dedicated mod for this channel

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hai Arm

wheat karma Oct 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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We don't dedicate mods

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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Theres no dedicated channel mods

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:18 PM

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o i c

wheat karma Oct 18, 2016, 3:18 PM

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Also I'll look into it, I've just got in from uni and it was chucking it down.

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:18 PM

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lol, are you guys changing the logo longer than usually?

wheat karma Oct 18, 2016, 3:18 PM

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Give me a minute to do stuff.

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:18 PM

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'preciated

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:18 PM

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@toxic yacht Probably because AMIC is ending soon

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:18 PM

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how many more hours

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I hope sombra isn't a let down

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:19 PM

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6 iirc

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:19 PM

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ughhhh

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:19 PM

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The website tracking the offsets and shit is down because of traffic

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:19 PM

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well at least the MSI tourney starts in a little under 2 hrs. Dignitas vs NIP will be interesting

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yea

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i cant get on that site for shit now

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:19 PM

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When I checked it this morning it was scheduled to end at 7pm my time

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but now i guess its 11pm?

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:20 PM

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dignitas? Isn't Veineless part of it?

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:20 PM

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Yeah he is

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Him and evokje

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:20 PM

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yup he's playing support

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:20 PM

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play supp

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:20 PM

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nice, I'll definitely watch it

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:20 PM

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weird not seeing Draceus on Ana. I think he lowkey has one of the best Ana's in the world

keen pond Oct 18, 2016, 3:20 PM

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both matches would be intresting also LDLC vs Melty not both raelly top tier teams but i think they are at the same level of play so i guess that would also be an intresting match

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:21 PM

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ster best ana

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:21 PM

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ster is a pretty gud ana

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:21 PM

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really though

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ster is actually a very good ana

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:22 PM

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tbh I wonder if ster ever thought of going pro

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I mean, he is very good at the game

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:22 PM

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I can almost guarantee he has answered that question on his stream

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:23 PM

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yeah, you're probably right

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:23 PM

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He probably has

wheat karma Oct 18, 2016, 3:29 PM

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@gentle shuttle stream link would be nice if you have it?

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~~didn't mean to sound rude there .-.~~

drowsy arrow Oct 18, 2016, 3:29 PM

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ESpoRts

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:30 PM

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wait, isnt apex still running?

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do we want that or msi?

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:30 PM

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@wheat karma https://www.twitch.tv/msigamingameu

wheat karma Oct 18, 2016, 3:30 PM

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apex is still going and will stay in there

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:31 PM

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msi it is, I guess

wheat karma Oct 18, 2016, 3:31 PM

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We have plenty of room in the banner

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:31 PM

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oh, I didnt see it in the banner

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:31 PM

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Well APAC is done so no need for it anymore

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:31 PM

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I'm retarded

wheat karma Oct 18, 2016, 3:31 PM

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Oh

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I thought it hadn't finished

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:32 PM

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ye, it finished, rogue won iirc

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finals were rogue vs lunatic hai after hai beat nrg

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tbh rogue vs nrg would have been lovely

balmy wolf Oct 18, 2016, 3:33 PM

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yeah but they would have destroyed them

drowsy arrow Oct 18, 2016, 3:33 PM

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spolier

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:35 PM

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@wheat karma no worries i didnt take it the wrong way 🐷

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was in the middle of a match

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:35 PM

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no surprise there, nrg vs rogue would have been a massacre

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:38 PM

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that said though

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NRG really impressed me in their set against Lunatic Hai

vestal mortar Oct 18, 2016, 3:38 PM

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Me too!

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:38 PM

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coz i thought for sure that would have been a massacre

vestal mortar Oct 18, 2016, 3:38 PM

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They have been playing better than ever but they still have a ways to go.

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 3:38 PM

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nrg is very impressive when they feel like

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they are extremely inconsistent

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 3:45 PM

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@vestal mortar yup being out in Asia is helping them a lot

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same goes for Rogue and Envy too, at least it seems like to me

vestal mortar Oct 18, 2016, 3:46 PM

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Indeed, spending time together, getting the team communication up to scratch.

gentle shuttle Oct 18, 2016, 5:09 PM

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we live ladies and germs https://www.twitch.tv/msigamingameu

toxic yacht Oct 18, 2016, 5:11 PM

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minus the shitty cancer twitch chat
https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=msigamingameu&html5

limber flint Oct 19, 2016, 8:20 AM

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I find it hard to enjoy and get excited by ow (and other fps) esports

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like so much of the game is your team comms and how good your aim is

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which you can't really see

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but I'm pretty nub. what do y'all like about watching on?

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ow*

sinful burrow Oct 19, 2016, 8:24 AM

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seeing how pros play the heroes i do and seeing how theyre better mechanically and strategically

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helps me to imrpove

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there's a lot you can learn by watching

limber flint Oct 19, 2016, 8:28 AM

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that's true

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you actually get some utility out of it

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vs like watching sc2 esports.. I don't have even close to pro apm, can't do close to anything they're doing lol

sinful burrow Oct 19, 2016, 8:29 AM

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i mean it's the same with any sport or competitive activity

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if you have no idea what's going you cant tell what's a good or bad play

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it's all just noise

gentle shuttle Oct 19, 2016, 8:41 AM

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that's the dream Ozymil

limber flint Oct 19, 2016, 8:42 AM

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but I feel like what results in a good play or a good team fight is inherently not obvious

gentle shuttle Oct 19, 2016, 8:42 AM

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thats why the pro scene needs to get as big as posible

limber flint Oct 19, 2016, 8:42 AM

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eg aim and team comms

gentle shuttle Oct 19, 2016, 8:42 AM

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it really helps get everyone on the same page in pub play n stuff

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Junkrat mains wont ever change tho : (

sinful burrow Oct 19, 2016, 8:47 AM

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that's what shoutcasters are for

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good shoutcasters, anyways

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and post-game discussions

limber flint Oct 19, 2016, 8:47 AM

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I'll give it a shot

sinful burrow Oct 19, 2016, 8:47 AM

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if you really wanna break down pro gameplay you can't relegate to solely examining everything in the moment

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spotting good plays on the fly is a lot of fun to do

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but that comes with a certain understanding of the meta, mechanics, and synergy

limber flint Oct 19, 2016, 8:51 AM

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ehh learning all that sounds like work lol

sinful burrow Oct 19, 2016, 8:54 AM

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it's not work if you enjoy it 😄

pseudo sail Oct 19, 2016, 8:56 AM

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In 1 hour OGN's Apex returns for day 6 with Afreeca Blue vs Rogue & MVP Space vs NRG on twitch.tv/ognglobal . The debut for both the US and EU squads in the tournament! If you missed Monday's matches you can catch up with my overview of the action at: https://medium.com/@followradon/overview-of-ogns-apex-group-stage-day-5-c09037fc7480

If you want to catch up with the whole tournament you can find summaries for the other playdays as well at: https://medium.com/@followradon/

gentle shuttle Oct 19, 2016, 10:24 AM

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Nice! thanks

inland bay Oct 19, 2016, 10:30 AM

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you can really the difference between east and west teams.

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east has better supports, west has better (deeper hero pools) attackers

glass jolt Oct 19, 2016, 10:33 AM

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Lol that Hanzo tho

inland bay Oct 19, 2016, 10:35 AM

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jesus man

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Recry isn't a very good reaper but good lord is he amazing on hanzo

gentle shuttle Oct 19, 2016, 10:54 AM

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his McCree is good too

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Arhan's supposed to be in the top 3 Genji's in KR out of the pro teams at least

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along with Nanohana and Haksal da gawd

marsh briar Oct 19, 2016, 11:35 AM

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production value pogchimp

vestal mortar Oct 19, 2016, 11:44 AM

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It's amazing!

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Welp, rip NRG

jovial eagle Oct 19, 2016, 11:54 AM

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are they playing right now?

vestal mortar Oct 19, 2016, 11:56 AM

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Yep!

jovial eagle Oct 19, 2016, 11:56 AM

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i bet it's on tiwtch

vestal mortar Oct 19, 2016, 11:57 AM

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OGNGlobal

jovial eagle Oct 19, 2016, 11:57 AM

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ok

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oh shit poro

jovial eagle Oct 19, 2016, 12:17 PM

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well nrg rolled mvp

vestal mortar Oct 19, 2016, 12:21 PM

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They weren't doing so well at first but they managed to get better

jovial eagle Oct 19, 2016, 12:22 PM

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ah

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lul the twitch chat talking so much shit

swift rapids Oct 19, 2016, 12:35 PM

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test

inland bay Oct 19, 2016, 12:58 PM

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Yeah im thinking there's no shortage of good genjis out of korea, but they really need to step up and get better Reapers. watching Recry on reaper was painful

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he does have a good hanzo and mccree though. maybe he's more comfortable playing mid-long range

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instead of up close

compact kite Oct 19, 2016, 1:39 PM

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༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

gentle shuttle Oct 19, 2016, 6:34 PM

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for tommorow lord chat http://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch/news/41836-alienware-monthly-melee-october-2-to-kick-off-tomorrow?utm_content=buffer92ba5&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

solid spear Oct 19, 2016, 6:55 PM

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nice

pseudo sail Oct 19, 2016, 7:18 PM

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For people who missed today's Apex matches. Here's my Overview: apple pie's debut, map , player and teams to watch!

Today's match-ups were Afreeca Freecs Blue vs Rogue & MVP Space vs NRG; debut on OGN for both Rogue & NRG :)

https://medium.com/@followradon/overview-of-ogns-apex-group-stage-day-6-apple-pie-s-debut-bd57dffe0e73

gentle shuttle Oct 19, 2016, 9:08 PM

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UltimaWep's streaming https://www.twitch.tv/ultimawep1

toxic yacht Oct 19, 2016, 9:58 PM

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oh, btw, seagull was streaming with lunatic hai some time back

gentle shuttle Oct 19, 2016, 10:38 PM

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yeah it was great

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korean ranked best ranked

jovial eagle Oct 20, 2016, 12:45 AM

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i sometimes don't quite understand esports and all of its vitriol

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maybe i haven't dabbled enough

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but i think seagull's quite skilled, and then there's so many people saying he's shit

balmy wolf Oct 20, 2016, 1:43 AM

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Very true @Howhurl

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@Howhurl#4236 very true my friend

jovial eagle Oct 20, 2016, 1:46 AM

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im not offended being a fan of seagull, but i am actually confused

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is seagull really not good?

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before genji nerfs he was pretty much a god, after he played mei/hanzo

inland bay Oct 20, 2016, 1:53 AM

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He's good. You have to be a baseline level of good to compete. It's just that he's outclassed in some heroes by less popular people

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people just like to shit on him because of his fame

jovial eagle Oct 20, 2016, 1:54 AM

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oh

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i like seagull quite a bit actually, and i don't say that for pretty much all pro gamers

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he's super relaxed and doesn't rage in his videos

inland bay Oct 20, 2016, 1:56 AM

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yeah he's entertaining and informative

toxic yacht Oct 20, 2016, 6:24 AM

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pretty much what Sandata said, @jovial eagle. He is definitely a very good player, even among professionals, but he most definitely isn't the best. He is also a flex player, which probably somewhat inhibits his performance since he doesn't foucs on a pool of 1-3 dps or something. Then there's obviously the fame. He is a succesful streamer and a pro, so that will obviously attract some negative attention

jovial eagle Oct 20, 2016, 6:25 AM

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there's also the factor of the definition of best isn't it

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because i've seen shadder2k's genji plays and they're ridiculous

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heck even seagull thinks shadder's awesome haha

toxic yacht Oct 20, 2016, 6:32 AM

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seagull acknowlegded that shadder is better than him. And anyone who has seen shadowburn would never say that seagull the best genji. Shadder and Shadowburn look like robots when they play genji

jovial eagle Oct 20, 2016, 6:33 AM

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i do notice shadder dies more often though

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he plays extremely aggressively

toxic yacht Oct 20, 2016, 6:39 AM

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yeah, he dies very often. Seagull plays a bit more passively to charge up his ult before swording in when its necessary. I generally prefer Shadder's playstyle since I also play a very aggressive genji (and die often, get my ult extremely frequently though). Shadder also looks more impressive overall when he plays imo since he is flat out better, especially with his aim.

jovial eagle Oct 20, 2016, 6:42 AM

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i feel like shit when i die

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so i play passively as well

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with everyone

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e.e

toxic yacht Oct 20, 2016, 6:49 AM

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but mei though. Seagull is one of the few pros who actually enjoy playing mei and always streams with her. Wouldn't be shocked if he is among the best meis around.

jovial eagle Oct 20, 2016, 6:56 AM

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i thought he thinks mei's ademon

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but yeah seagull on mei is incredible

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he's saved people from roadhog hooks with wall

toxic yacht Oct 20, 2016, 7:00 AM

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his walls are always on point, its amazing to see how fast and accurately he places them. I still miss his genji though

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Seagull was the reason why I started with Genji in the first place, so it's disappointing to see him so rarely

jovial eagle Oct 20, 2016, 7:01 AM

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rip genji

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but yeah

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so many things i learned from him

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mei is legitimate counter for bastion, it's so troll especially on hanamura defense

toxic yacht Oct 20, 2016, 7:05 AM

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oh god, 2cp maps, especially hanamura are so horrid. Even more so since mei was buffed. This gamemode is the main reason why I wish ow had something like csgo where you could select your competitive match pool

jovial eagle Oct 20, 2016, 7:05 AM

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mei's ult needs to be nerfed

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charge slower

toxic yacht Oct 20, 2016, 7:05 AM

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I am 100% sure that it'll get nerfed

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a good mei gets her ult far too fast

jovial eagle Oct 20, 2016, 7:06 AM

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yeah

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or bad people who peaks way too often

toxic yacht Oct 20, 2016, 7:06 AM

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you shouldn't be chasing off the entire enemy team twice per teamfight

jovial eagle Oct 20, 2016, 7:06 AM

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i've gotten 2 ults off within 1 minut

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e

toxic yacht Oct 20, 2016, 7:07 AM

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mei was the only hero who wasn't hit by the self healing nerf, probably because of her low pickrates at the time. Now that she is more viable, they can also put her in line with the other heroes. Getting back 100hp every few seconds is no joke

jovial eagle Oct 20, 2016, 7:10 AM

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yeah

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not to mention a good escape after breaking out

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wall off all troubles

gentle shuttle Oct 20, 2016, 7:31 AM

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@jovial eagle Seagull's hero pool is kinda lack luster compared to the other DPS players for other teams

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he plays genji, hanzo, mei and out of them i'd say his mei has the best chances of being better than other players mei's

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there are times he absolutely goes ham with his Genji but it seems few and far between. NRG vs Rize Nation is a good example

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he didnt die once on Liijang

jovial eagle Oct 20, 2016, 7:34 AM

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specialization isn't good even with pros eh

gentle shuttle Oct 20, 2016, 7:36 AM

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yup

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the difference in pub stomping and pro play is really night and day

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i used to think he was the best too 🐷

jovial eagle Oct 20, 2016, 7:40 AM

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pro is about teamwork i think for the most part

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nrg had no response to lunatic hai rip

gentle shuttle Oct 20, 2016, 7:40 AM

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they played really well i think

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i think most people would've thought that would be a free 3-0 for Lunatic

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being out in asia seems to be levelling them up which is good

jovial eagle Oct 20, 2016, 7:44 AM

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noice

toxic yacht Oct 20, 2016, 7:59 AM

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nrg had some very questionable plays against hai, like that single gravtion surge, how god didn't chase that reaper and went for ryujehong instead of him and lost etc.

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but yeah, overall they did really well

gentle shuttle Oct 20, 2016, 4:54 PM

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https://www.thestreet.com/story/13860794/1/activision-blizzard-atvi-ceo-kotick-talks-future-of-vr-esports.html

toxic yacht Oct 20, 2016, 4:56 PM

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yeah, no, spectating overwatch is already confusing enough. I doubt that vr would improve it, although it seems like a fun little gimick

balmy wolf Oct 20, 2016, 5:14 PM

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#overwatch-news

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Woo

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eSports becoming serious

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Wooo

pastel hedge Oct 20, 2016, 6:32 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/58ha7c/overwatch_hero_meta_report_its_the_wests_world/ can we talk about the fact that half the roster is in F tier?

toxic yacht Oct 20, 2016, 6:36 PM

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tbh it's always been like this. I mean, I dont need to explain why torb and symmetra aren't there, junk is too situational and feedy, Widow is still a dumpster fire, 76 is really not needed in the current meta and is objectively worse than mccree in high level play, mercy is not needed because of zenyatta and ana, pharah is kill because of mccree, basion lol, dva gets deleted by zarya and has almost nothing that winston does not do better and hanzo is too inconsistent

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and most of this can be blamed on ana and lucio

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more like half of it

vestal tinsel Oct 20, 2016, 7:02 PM

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Ranking heroes based on playrate is pretty subjective to how good you think they are though. Despite being F teir ( not meaning they are bad) teams have been winning using picks like pharah and bastion

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It was recent that NRG put seagull on bastion being buffed by mercy on the first point of numbani and they won the round

toxic yacht Oct 20, 2016, 9:01 PM

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I mean, they mainly managed it because splyce wasn't that great of a team. They tried the same thing with liquid, got completely destroyed and almost risked the map for it (although they still won it)

gentle shuttle Oct 21, 2016, 6:14 AM

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So far, this is the best line-up we've had for an OW tourney to date https://twitter.com/PlayOverwatch/status/789278853810098176

balmy wolf Oct 21, 2016, 6:18 AM

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tfw Reinforce is an analyst

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WaitWhat

gentle shuttle Oct 21, 2016, 6:19 AM

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He used to do behind the scenes stuff in esports matches

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And I think it's a gd idea to get insight from an actual player too

balmy wolf Oct 21, 2016, 6:19 AM

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Also I just realised I've run into the Team Captain of Team Bulgaria a few times in ranked

gentle shuttle Oct 21, 2016, 6:19 AM

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What's his name

balmy wolf Oct 21, 2016, 6:20 AM

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mystogan

gentle shuttle Oct 21, 2016, 6:20 AM

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Fairy Tale reference lol. What a throwback

balmy wolf Oct 21, 2016, 6:20 AM

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He is a really good widow

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Only if I was on Ireland's team lel

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Looks like the big players for EU are Sweden, Germany, Finland, France, Russia and Spain

solid spear Oct 21, 2016, 6:25 AM

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@gentle shuttle weeb smh

balmy wolf Oct 21, 2016, 6:26 AM

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witch anime girl picture

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WaitWhat

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https://i.imgur.com/iDXeiTM.png

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lol I love sky

gentle shuttle Oct 21, 2016, 6:27 AM

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@solid spear hehe

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Yo did u see my ping about LG?

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Replaced Tseini feelabaaadman

balmy wolf Oct 21, 2016, 6:28 AM

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wait what

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Who did they replace him with?

solid spear Oct 21, 2016, 6:28 AM

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@balmy wolf I uh lost a bet

balmy wolf Oct 21, 2016, 6:28 AM

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Suuurrrree

gentle shuttle Oct 21, 2016, 6:29 AM

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I forgot his name. Lemme find the article

solid spear Oct 21, 2016, 6:29 AM

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I've been losing lots of bets

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Spree

gentle shuttle Oct 21, 2016, 6:29 AM

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http://www.over.gg/1978/luminosity-gaming-to-remove-tseini-for-spree

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When's Tseini, Art1er and Numlocked gonna start a team

balmy wolf Oct 21, 2016, 6:30 AM

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who tf is spree

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Also where is New Reu

solid spear Oct 21, 2016, 6:30 AM

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Played for NWA

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Polo pls

balmy wolf Oct 21, 2016, 6:31 AM

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I guess I havent been watching any tournies

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have they been in any

gentle shuttle Oct 21, 2016, 6:32 AM

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Read this

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https://twitter.com/LG_SPREE/status/789193323294494720

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Wish I could burn in such a classy manner too

solid spear Oct 21, 2016, 6:36 AM

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I ain't know Hafficool was such a dick

gentle shuttle Oct 21, 2016, 6:44 AM

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Got dat burn doe

balmy wolf Oct 21, 2016, 8:04 AM

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@swift rapids #lf-players-na

pseudo sail Oct 21, 2016, 8:11 AM

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Hey everyone, in just under 2 hours OGN's Apex returns with Rhinos Gaming Titan vs Rogue and one of the most expected match-ups: Lunatic-Hai vs EnVyUS at https://www.twitch.tv/ognglobal!

If you missed wednesday's action of Afreeca Blue vs Rogue & NRG's debut vs MVP Space you can catch up with my summary of the day, including 'maps, players and teams to watch' list :
https://medium.com/@followradon/overview-of-ogns-apex-group-stage-day-6-apple-pie-s-debut-bd57dffe0e73

If you are interested to know more about the other matches of the tournament so far you can check out the summaries and my picks for 'maps, players and teams to watch' of the rest of the days at https://twitter.com/followradon

twilit python Oct 21, 2016, 8:56 AM

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Well it is lame what happened to Hafficol

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there team was doing decent

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and then two of their supports get picked up by Dig

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and then they lose Spree to LG

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Both Dig and LG losing to NWA the team the players left from

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questionable

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but I guess I understand

gentle shuttle Oct 21, 2016, 10:06 AM

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that does suck, seeing it from that perspective

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https://www.twitch.tv/ognglobal

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if they'd all stayed together they probably would've been picked up by an org in a matter of time

keen pond Oct 21, 2016, 10:09 AM

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Yeah it's unlucky for Ninjas with Attitude they are a strong team but because there are bigger orgs. intrested in the players and Ninjas with Attitude is a team by the players it's some what logic the players leave to bigger orgs. But I'm still wondering when Hafficool will get a big oppertunity hes such a great player

vestal mortar Oct 21, 2016, 12:50 PM

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LH vs Envy was so good!

marsh briar Oct 21, 2016, 12:50 PM

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taimouW 🔫

quasi python Oct 21, 2016, 12:52 PM

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taibow

gentle shuttle Oct 21, 2016, 1:06 PM

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talespin plz

keen pond Oct 21, 2016, 5:19 PM

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http://fnatic.com/content/96746/overwatch-roster-changes-and-dps-tryouts

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iddqd D';

balmy wolf Oct 21, 2016, 5:21 PM

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fuck man

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Thats not good

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Iddqd and Buds were a godlike combo

keen pond Oct 21, 2016, 5:25 PM

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ikr

limber pine Oct 21, 2016, 5:54 PM

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Overwatch World Cup Groups announced: https://www.facebook.com/PlayOverwatch/videos/691707264320418/

Facebook

Overwatch

Join us as Global Director of Overwatch Esports, Nate Nanzer, completes the group draw for our first-ever Overwatch World Cup at BlizzCon 2016!

Learn...

solid spear Oct 21, 2016, 5:56 PM

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hmm

vague eagle Oct 21, 2016, 5:56 PM

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Oreo please

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#147153976687591424

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You are not new

solid spear Oct 21, 2016, 5:57 PM

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this...is new to me

thin elk Oct 21, 2016, 6:01 PM

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Group draw?

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I don't even know what's happening with that anymore

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I have heard absolutely nothing about any of the teams in the Americas

viral hazel Oct 21, 2016, 6:04 PM

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Well america is gonna lose in their group xD

gentle shuttle Oct 21, 2016, 6:09 PM

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IDDQD stepped down : (

keen pond Oct 21, 2016, 6:10 PM

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ehh

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like 1 hour ago x'D

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i said the same thing

gentle shuttle Oct 21, 2016, 6:10 PM

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lmao my bad i didnt scroll up

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might aswell deleteeee

toxic yacht Oct 21, 2016, 6:21 PM

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rip iddqd

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why man

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he was so good

keen pond Oct 21, 2016, 6:24 PM

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he will talk about it later so yeh

toxic yacht Oct 21, 2016, 6:25 PM

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man, its so disappointing. Iddqd is one of the best hitscan players in the scene, kinda sad to see him leave them.

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I wonder where he is going from here and who his replacement is going to be

vague eagle Oct 21, 2016, 6:42 PM

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Stepped down from team or esports in general ?

toxic yacht Oct 21, 2016, 6:45 PM

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from fnatic roster

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iirc he is still part of fnatic, just not playing anymore or something

keen pond Oct 21, 2016, 6:47 PM

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"Iddqd takes a step down from his starter position but will remain part of our organisation until further notice."

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so yeah it's just waiting on what iddqd will say

toxic yacht Oct 21, 2016, 6:56 PM

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he will clear it up later, he said he'll make an official statement once he is back at his pc or something

keen pond Oct 21, 2016, 6:58 PM

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yup

balmy wolf Oct 21, 2016, 7:05 PM

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Well the winners of the groups seem kinda obvious

thin elk Oct 21, 2016, 7:18 PM

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How many of the matches were actually shown to us?

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I have literally only seen the EU teams

balmy wolf Oct 21, 2016, 7:22 PM

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Im pretty sure they all were

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in one language or another

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The outcome of the group stages though were super obvious

toxic yacht Oct 21, 2016, 9:12 PM

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wat

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iddqd

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on the faze roster

keen pond Oct 21, 2016, 9:13 PM

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link?

toxic yacht Oct 21, 2016, 9:13 PM

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TwoEasy vanished

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iddqd is subbing

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https://www.twitch.tv/gosutv_ow

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lul, I definitely wasn't expecting to see him there of all places, Shadowburn + Iddqd vs mendo and surefour

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dis gon be fun

solid spear Oct 21, 2016, 9:15 PM

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its just for today

toxic yacht Oct 21, 2016, 9:15 PM

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ohh shit, twoeasy is in the lobby 😦

keen pond Oct 21, 2016, 9:18 PM

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ow no iddqd

toxic yacht Oct 21, 2016, 9:19 PM

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twoeasy returned 😦 feelssbadman

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wait, whats grego doing in faze?

keen pond Oct 21, 2016, 9:47 PM

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stand in

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zombs is at a wedding

marsh briar Oct 21, 2016, 10:23 PM

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D.Va and solo healing pogchimp

gentle shuttle Oct 21, 2016, 10:33 PM

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lmao this guys name is really Jesus

marsh briar Oct 21, 2016, 11:04 PM

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Kingdom is lit

twilit python Oct 22, 2016, 11:53 AM

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This may not be esports related by it's featuring two of the best Korean players out there, Haksal and Mirage

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but it's funny as fuck so I wanted to share it with you guys

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjAydyTxxAc

keen pond Oct 22, 2016, 12:03 PM

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x'DD

white hare Oct 22, 2016, 9:16 PM

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The video after that was just as good @twilit python

twilit python Oct 22, 2016, 9:18 PM

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haha

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good good

robust lodge Oct 23, 2016, 1:58 AM

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I think people will be making alotta money of OW eSports

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not matching league or cs go yet but it will be close up there

wise pivot Oct 23, 2016, 9:40 AM

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I mean they want to hold a world championship similar to that of league

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and knowing blizzard

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they can do it really fucking easily

pseudo sail Oct 23, 2016, 9:51 AM

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Hey everyone, in just under 2 hours OGN's Apex returns with Rhinos Gaming Titan vs Rogue and one of the most expected match-ups: Lunatic-Hai vs EnVyUS at https://www.twitch.tv/ognglobal!

If you missed Friday's action in OGN's Apex you can catch up with my summary of the day, including 'maps, players and teams to watch' list. The match-ups were RGT vs the European powerhouse and APAC champions Rogue and the long-awaited meeting of Lunatic-Hai (widely regarded as best KR team) vs the famous EnVyUS.

https://medium.com/@followradon/overview-of-ogns-apex-group-stage-day-7-lunatics-blizzcon-on-the-horizon-1a77d4a363c1

If you are interested to know more about the other matches of the tournament so far you can check out the summaries and my picks for 'maps, players and teams to watch' of the rest of the days at https://twitter.com/followradon

gentle shuttle Oct 23, 2016, 12:55 PM

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https://clips.twitch.tv/gosutv_ow/Beautiful-Cobra-Pete-Zaroll remove the -'s in the URL

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that was crazyyyy

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i fell asleep during the tourney since it was late over here

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i'm also probably in the minority here, but I think Slasher makes a great addition to ZP+Hex's duo. Would love to see the three of them do bigger events but ah well

cerulean rivet Oct 23, 2016, 7:31 PM

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pubstomp

toxic yacht Oct 23, 2016, 7:45 PM

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luuuul

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well, remember how misfits almost fucked up overtime on eichenwalde vs rogue? When they all left the payload? Good to know that shit like this even happens at pro level

gentle shuttle Oct 23, 2016, 9:37 PM

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loool

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https://www.twitch.tv/carbonentertainment

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FaZe, Kingdom, Complexity, H2K

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Harbleu's girlfriend's going ham on Reaper

balmy wolf Oct 23, 2016, 9:38 PM

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wut

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o shit esper

gentle shuttle Oct 23, 2016, 9:41 PM

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Esper is bae

inner sequoia Oct 25, 2016, 12:17 PM

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What team is Esper on?

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And please mention me so i can find the answer later

coarse plover Oct 25, 2016, 2:33 PM

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if you mean Esper support player, he plays for H2K according to Liquipedia @inner sequoia

balmy wolf Oct 25, 2016, 5:34 PM

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Holy shit Group B for the World Cup is gonna be 🔥

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USA, Germany and Russia going at each other right from get go

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HYPE

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And then there is Chile lol

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Probably the only group that doesnt have 2 clear winners

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I'd say it'll be Germany and Russia though

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what is a Chinese Taipei tho

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It's the Republic of China

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Russia and USA are interchangable id say

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Group A also has the potential to be lit, but I say potential 'cuz 🇨🇦 and 🇪🇸 are a bit of a question mark

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Germany tho I think is through

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Also, fuck you Blizz

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Putting both of the teams I'm rooting for in the same Group

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Well and USA, of course

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Its 2 per group

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2 that get through

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My predictions

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Group A: Sweden, Spain
Group B: Germany, Russia
Group C: Finland, South Korea
Group D: China, France

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nice formatting

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thanks lel

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I agree with Group C and D

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I am unsure about A and B

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Germany is gonna go through no matter what, but that's the only certainty I have

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really?

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yeah

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Can't think of any other team that is guaranteed to go through?

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nope

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Not even Sweden

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._.

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I wouldnt say Germany is going through 100%

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I'd say that about Sweden

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Germany still has a chance of losing

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https://i.imgur.com/W08tHxL.jpg

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Oh wow the matches were revealed

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unless this is just a placeholder

balmy wolf Oct 25, 2016, 6:30 PM

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I disagree. I think Germany is the strongest team

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Eh, that wasn't a reveal

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That was a demonstration of how the World Cup matching is gonna work in the vid explaining the World Cup

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I wouldn't take it as hard-proof

balmy wolf Oct 25, 2016, 6:53 PM

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Yeah that is why I said "unless this is just a placeholder"

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Also im curious @balmy wolf Why do you think Germany is the better team?

toxic yacht Oct 25, 2016, 7:07 PM

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world cup is at a really shitty time in my timezone, although it'll be on the weekend

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I'll try to watch, also USA vs Russia hype

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I think the finals will be two EU teams, probably something with sweden and germany. EU is fucking stacked. I'm also pretty hyped for Korea

balmy wolf Oct 25, 2016, 8:50 PM

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Just the impression I got from the qualifiers

gentle shuttle Oct 25, 2016, 10:08 PM

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Korea with those Lunatic Hai members. They're for sure gonna do well

toxic yacht Oct 25, 2016, 10:18 PM

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I'm kinda sad that haksal isn't in korea though

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he's like a one man genji army

balmy wolf Oct 25, 2016, 10:31 PM

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At least we have Shadowburn

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@balmy wolf I didnt actually watch all the qualifiers because the outcomes were so obvious. I was just going the the lineups

gentle shuttle Oct 25, 2016, 10:47 PM

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its funny, there was a Overwatch podcast on about an hour ago with Fishtix, Flame and Mangachu (i forgot the hosts name i feel pretty bad :((( ) and they were discussing who'd win in a Genji 1v1 between Haksal, Shadowburn and a few others

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and then THIS gets announced http://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch/news/41929-let-s-get-ready-to-rumble-overwatch-s-first-1v1-arena-is-here?utm_content=bufferf9369&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

balmy wolf Oct 25, 2016, 10:49 PM

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shadowburn would win

gentle shuttle Oct 25, 2016, 10:53 PM

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i'd like to see Haksal vs SDB that'd be hype af

twilit python Oct 26, 2016, 10:03 AM

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Germany will lose to Russia easily

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even with Cypher not being able to make it

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It will be a stomp I think

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Finland vs Korea is going to be interesting

balmy wolf Oct 26, 2016, 10:25 AM

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You sound pretty sure of that

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I like that

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Will make it more interesting when Germany comes out on top 😛

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WE SHALL SEE

toxic yacht Oct 26, 2016, 10:35 AM

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BROTHER

drowsy arrow Oct 26, 2016, 10:36 AM

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time to make some bets

balmy wolf Oct 26, 2016, 11:13 AM

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We bet with nudes

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No, wait

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Uglyness is a thing

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uuuum

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lootboxes

wanton bronze Oct 26, 2016, 11:20 AM

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~~I would have been fine with nudes~~

balmy wolf Oct 26, 2016, 11:23 AM

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I will feign surprise

wanton bronze Oct 26, 2016, 11:23 AM

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😄

orchid iris Oct 26, 2016, 1:44 PM

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Finland numba 1

wanton bronze Oct 26, 2016, 2:22 PM

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https://www.overbuff.com/blog/2016-10-26-overwatch-hero-tier-list-and-meta-report-a-meta-divided

frank frigate Oct 26, 2016, 3:25 PM

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good morning everyone, I just posted this week's meta report! check it out ~ https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/59i3vr/overwatch_hero_meta_report_a_meta_divided/

focused on east vs. west differences that have arisen this week

balmy wolf Oct 26, 2016, 3:25 PM

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@wanton bronze already posted it @frank frigate

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ur slow

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git gud

wanton bronze Oct 26, 2016, 3:26 PM

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#overwatch will get triggered again

toxic yacht Oct 26, 2016, 3:32 PM

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@frank frigate We love you, keep up the good work

lusty lotus Oct 26, 2016, 3:49 PM

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Good to see my boy Zen back up to C-Tier. I'll play him until he's not even listed anymore #OmnicLivesMatter

frank frigate Oct 26, 2016, 4:18 PM

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ah yea but the reddit threads = you can bitch at me

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hehehe

balmy wolf Oct 26, 2016, 4:18 PM

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lol

paper pebble Oct 26, 2016, 4:22 PM

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@frank frigate love the reports

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do you think it's still relevant to have the S tier ?

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I mean, with Blizzard making progress on hero balance, I think (at least hope) we won't see heroes re-entering it anytime soon

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I guess it doesn't really matter, but I'm a bit bothered that >20% usage rate (which is actually fairly balanced) ends up being C tier

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scratch that, it doesn't matter actually 😃

frank frigate Oct 26, 2016, 4:29 PM

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ummm yes and no

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its basically like the "canary in a coal mine" tier

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if something actually hits it, we got a problem hurr

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well thing is about the C tier, I think i once calculated what a "perfectly balanced" meta would turn out to in terms of hero usage. this is assuming an ideal scenario of like, perfect hero swapping so that every hero was played the same amount, and that it accounted for 100% of a match time

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i think the numbers shook out to like, ~16% usage per hero

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probably a percent or two lower now that ana is in the pool

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so it makes sense for "balanced" heroes to fall within that range

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but yea its like you said, balance is a subjective subject at best

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all i can do is report what objective numbers i can, and give appropriate context

paper pebble Oct 26, 2016, 4:37 PM

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which you do well don't get me wrong

frank frigate Oct 26, 2016, 4:47 PM

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👌

turbid kiln Oct 27, 2016, 12:02 AM

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@balmy wolf sucks in e sports

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:Ddddd

twilit python Oct 27, 2016, 12:39 AM

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The Finnish team will be drunk 24/7

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I can see it now

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Knowing Taimou for sure

balmy wolf Oct 27, 2016, 12:46 AM

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@turbid kiln WTFFFFFFFFFFFF

turbid kiln Oct 27, 2016, 12:49 AM

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opwned

cloud current Oct 27, 2016, 2:24 AM

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Betting my nudes on Korea to kill china in quarters

arctic sorrel Oct 27, 2016, 2:28 AM

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MURICA

toxic yacht Oct 27, 2016, 6:26 AM

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USA
USA
USA
USA

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c'mon, I can't be the only one who fainted when he saw Ster and Seagull on the same team

jovial eagle Oct 27, 2016, 7:25 AM

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ster and seagull on the same team?

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i need to see this

toxic yacht Oct 27, 2016, 7:28 AM

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gods and tailspin are there too

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its seagull, gods, ster, tailspin, mesr and adam

gentle shuttle Oct 27, 2016, 9:58 AM

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@twilit python wait whaaaaat Cypher's not there? : (

toxic yacht Oct 27, 2016, 12:52 PM

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So, I presume that we'll all be watching the cup together?

balmy wolf Oct 27, 2016, 5:30 PM

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so....

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the world cup group matches will be played in So Cal?

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starting saturday?

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Oct 29.

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Yes

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In Anaheim

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is there anyway to go there ant watch?

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and

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i wanna go see that shit

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You have to buy a ticket to Blizzcon

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lame

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didnt make it in time

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I dont know if these matches are actually like watchable at Blizzcon

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Because Blizzcon actually starts on the 4th

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They're being streamed though

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right

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it looks like they are at the concention center

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but it doesnt look like anyones there

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What

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im watching one of the streams right now

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for SC

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it looks like they are at the convention center

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but it doesnt appear to be anyone in the audience

normal jasper Oct 27, 2016, 8:43 PM

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theres no live audience for those broadcasts during opening week

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theyre not at the convention center, they are at a studio

cunning pivot Oct 27, 2016, 10:11 PM

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they're in Burbank I think?

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so is Heroes

spare ravine Oct 28, 2016, 12:44 AM

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pretty sure finals will be sweden vs korea

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and korea will 3-0 them

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maybe tviq can hard carry them but i doubt it

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unlucky that french fans threw their own countries chances at winning with 4/6 the people they voted in

balmy wolf Oct 28, 2016, 12:53 AM

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tfw they didnt vote in aKm

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smh

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I heard something about Cypher not being able to make it or something?

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Is that true?

spare ravine Oct 28, 2016, 1:07 AM

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tfw no akm / soon / unkoe or winzz

balmy wolf Oct 28, 2016, 1:08 AM

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Yep

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Still though

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Then it would just basically be Rogue

spare ravine Oct 28, 2016, 1:10 AM

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thats only because rogue has 4 french players lol

balmy wolf Oct 28, 2016, 1:15 AM

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Yeah...

toxic yacht Oct 28, 2016, 5:17 AM

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Ehh, remember, the voting happened befpre Rogue got this popular, so it's somewhat understandable why aKm isn't in. Still dumb though.

frail skiff Oct 28, 2016, 5:37 AM

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guys quick

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rogue is a team right?

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anyone know the in game name of their manager?

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quiick quick quick

wary jacinth Oct 28, 2016, 5:38 AM

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@frail skiff Mitsy

frail skiff Oct 28, 2016, 5:44 AM

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in game with rogue manager now

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not mitsy, mitsy's the eu manager

wary jacinth Oct 28, 2016, 5:45 AM

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uh.….

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...frank?

frail skiff Oct 28, 2016, 5:45 AM

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actually im starting to doubt this dude

wary jacinth Oct 28, 2016, 5:45 AM

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rogue only has one manager

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which is mitsy

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frank is the ceo

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according to TL wiki at least

wanton bronze Oct 28, 2016, 11:13 AM

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http://en.event.eslgaming.com/eslarena-luccacomics/overwatch/

twilit python Oct 28, 2016, 12:08 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/59s6gp/why_does_kruise_play_lucio_for_reunited_hes/?st=iutqfqot&sh=cd380933

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Was a nice read

wanton bronze Oct 28, 2016, 12:23 PM

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I wonder why it was a nice read for you 😛

twilit python Oct 28, 2016, 12:43 PM

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😉

quartz wren Oct 28, 2016, 2:03 PM

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@dull atlas Post that in #overwatch-serious instead - this channel is for pro scene stuff (tourneys, teams, etc.)!

toxic yacht Oct 28, 2016, 2:32 PM

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still kinda sad that the channel is so inactive, hope that the scene growsn enough and this place stops being ~15 of the same people having discussions

balmy wolf Oct 28, 2016, 2:33 PM

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called it

toxic yacht Oct 28, 2016, 2:34 PM

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called it when the channel was made?

balmy wolf Oct 28, 2016, 2:34 PM

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Yep

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:^]

toxic yacht Oct 28, 2016, 2:34 PM

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yeah, no real surprise there, it was kind of to be expected, but it's still fairly disappointing to see the channel name always be grey

balmy wolf Oct 28, 2016, 2:49 PM

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Which team do you reckon will win this weekend?

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#TEAMSWEDEN

toxic yacht Oct 28, 2016, 2:50 PM

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Probably Sweden

balmy wolf Oct 28, 2016, 2:50 PM

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Aye : D

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Will be fun to see Poke play though

toxic yacht Oct 28, 2016, 2:50 PM

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Dandy is with germany though I think

balmy wolf Oct 28, 2016, 2:50 PM

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Yeah Dandy is really riding that germany train

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Aye indeed

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Its between South Korea and Sweden

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Agree.

toxic yacht Oct 28, 2016, 2:52 PM

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I'm still hoping that usa survives russia and germany, somehow

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I mean, adam and tailspin are in the same group, so we could potentially see a pharmecy (although I doubt it)

balmy wolf Oct 28, 2016, 2:52 PM

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Apparently Cypher cant make it

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Overwatch should be promoting the competitive scene in-game

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Or at least in the battle.net launcher

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Or they might already do that?

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Like when an event is on-going, click baits to watch the twitch stream

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No they dont do that

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They really should lol

toxic yacht Oct 28, 2016, 2:54 PM

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nah, they dont, ZP explained why on /r/comptetitiveoverwatch at some point

balmy wolf Oct 28, 2016, 2:54 PM

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So what was the reason?

toxic yacht Oct 28, 2016, 2:55 PM

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looking for the link

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...

balmy wolf Oct 28, 2016, 2:55 PM

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Ah alright

toxic yacht Oct 28, 2016, 2:55 PM

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but the world cup is hosted by blizz, so they should have an easier time promoting it, I think

balmy wolf Oct 28, 2016, 2:55 PM

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Yeah, yet no promotion within the client/launcher thus far lol

toxic yacht Oct 28, 2016, 2:56 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/56fz4j/why_do_we_still_not_have_in_client_ads_for_ow_pro/d8j00lv/?context=3&st=iutwiubs&sh=8ef815d6

balmy wolf Oct 28, 2016, 2:57 PM

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Fair enough I guess

toxic yacht Oct 28, 2016, 2:58 PM

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I stil wish that they'd put more effort into it though

balmy wolf Oct 28, 2016, 2:58 PM

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yeah word

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Would make the competitive scene grow a lot

toxic yacht Oct 28, 2016, 2:58 PM

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the good thing is that the scene is rather easy to get into since it's still so small