5 years later, her broke in and stole it back.
#lore-discussion
limpid agate
worthy rose
Oh... damn. Since I’m a soldier main I’m trying to find out everything about him! Thanks!
limpid agate
!!lorewiki Jack_Morrison
twilit nacelleBOT
For more information about the game, please refer to the wiki: https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Jack_Morrison
worthy rose
Where did he get his rifle probably at the helix watchpoint lol
twilit nacelleBOT
Short Stories:
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
News Reports:
Fading Glory; Jack Morrison: http://bit.ly/2f9TPq4
Experimental Weapon Stolen: http://bit.ly/2fMrKsj
Lucio's Synaesthesia World Tour: http://bit.ly/2flja2U
LumériCo: http://bit.ly/1XAJfd1
Overwatch is Back: http://bit.ly/1TAWebT
LumériCo Revealed: http://bit.ly/2e6P5oj
Portero Steps Down: http://bit.ly/2fk8Bes
Efi Oladele Interview: http://bit.ly/2miMZkT
Horizon Lunar Colony: http://bit.ly/2reMSKx
Attack on Helix: http://bit.ly/2tn45mk
Oslo Attack: https://bit.ly/2uHKXUr
Don Rumbotico: https://bit.ly/2VtzZKX
Documents:
Mei's Adventure: http://bit.ly/2fMxRg4
Torb's Letter: http://bit.ly/2HK4CWa
Venice Declassified: https://bit.ly/2Hs807B
Cuerva: https://bit.ly/2BHEqd9
Travel Guides:
Oasis: http://bit.ly/2iPTM4K
Paris: https://bit.ly/2GEyOoq
limpid agate
Experimental Weapon Stolen: http://bit.ly/2fMrKsj
For soldier 76, the important things are that article, Fading Glory (at the top of the list), and then in order:
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
I think that covers most of his major appearances
worthy rose
Thanks...
arctic loom
so about zarya shes always been with pink hair
or the blonde hair is the real color?
young knoll
I think Rodrigo means what her natural hair color is possibly?
drifting arch
I'm not sure if that was mentioned anywhere in the lore
Maybe one of our resident lore experts would know?
young knoll
it is at the very least more likely blonde than pink
grand wedge
She is blonde on a lot of skins. Weightlifter and her Archives’ one ( forgot the name). that are probably canon. She was probably blonde before she decided to dye her hair pink.
peak escarp
yeah
dreamy ember
worthy rose
Does anyone want to explain the entire lore to me?
peak escarp
!!loreguide
twilit nacelleBOT
This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL
There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
coral hatch
Is Brigette secretly adopted?
coral hatch
Her mother and father are both blonde
subtle geyser
thats not how genetics work
subtle geyser
i dont know why so many people are confused by this
peak escarp
hair colour is determined by more than one gene
subtle geyser
by that logic there could only possibly be a single hair color
peak escarp
and red hair is determined by a different gene than the one that determines hair shade
if both parents carried the red hair gene, they could have red haired offspring
coral hatch
Oh, I forgot most of biology since I never use it
peak escarp
and judging by the fact that all of Torb and Ingrid's grandkids are either blonde or redhead, I'd say they likely carry the gene
additionally, the north of Europe (including Sweden) has a higher percentage of redheads than most of Europe (except Ireland and Scotland, who have a much higher percentage)
subtle geyser
its similar to eye color, right?
solar pagoda
yo which character is gay
subtle geyser
i just know that blue is pretty common in europe and brown in africa/west asia
coral hatch
I don't see a problem with him being gay
subtle geyser
@solar pagoda nothing wrong with it?
coral hatch
Doesn't affect gameplay and lets there be more diversity
coral hatch
There's no way to tell somebody is gay
subtle geyser
old people can be gay
anyone can be gay
it doesnt necessarily change your personality
coral hatch
It's not if you look the part it's who you're attracted to
peak escarp
probably
solar pagoda
Or are they all same gender
solar pagoda
bastion is alpha male
peak escarp
Bastion does not have a gender
solar pagoda
what bout his bird
subtle geyser
its probably based on what they were built like, they were probably designed like that since they have male and female voices
coral hatch
It's proven that they have genders in the Widow cinematic
peak escarp
probably male, based on the bright colours
solar pagoda
are u a ow developer?
peak escarp
male birds are usually brightly coloured, while females are typically brown
peak escarp
I'm not a dev, I just really like the lore
coral hatch
No
subtle geyser
well probably not
peak escarp
I don't think they can reproduce
subtle geyser
but adoption is always a thing
solar pagoda
i like ow lord the most of any game but I don’t really know much of it
peak escarp
unless it's like in that movie where they literally build a child
solar pagoda
lore
coral hatch
Male birds are brightly colored to attract mates
While female birds are dull colored to hide from predators while caring for their eggs/babies
peak escarp
right
solar pagoda
That is some big brain shit
coral hatch
It's why female Cardinals are so ugly
peak escarp
it doesn't apply for all bird species, but Ganymede appears to be some kind of cardinal/song bird
so it would apply in his case
solar pagoda
They need to add a female monkey
coral hatch
So Ganymede is male
subtle geyser
whats an usual life expectancy for a bird like that?
coral hatch
A few years
subtle geyser
they dont live too long do they?
coral hatch
I think
young knoll
solar pagoda
young knoll
it is that bird
peak escarp
Ganymede isn't any known bird species - for all we know, his species could live for many decades
coral hatch
3-15 years is the expectancy or a cardinal
So base it off that since they have similar features
solar pagoda
coral hatch
But, Blizzard can make the lifespan whatever they want
peak escarp
we know he has been around for at least 15ish years, since Bastion woke up about 15 years ago
coral hatch
We must also take into account that Torb and Bastion are roommates, and Torb is friends with Mercy
solar pagoda
Roommates
coral hatch
So Mercy can probably keep Ganymede up forever
A lot unlike Mercys in my solo queue games
solar pagoda
Didn’t mercy create reaper
peak escarp
no
coral hatch
She can't, but she can keep them alive for longer, right?
solar pagoda
Or messed it up so he became reaper
coral hatch
Or did I read wrong?
peak escarp
Mercy just heals
if someone dies of old age, she can't heal that
Reaper was created by Moira
peak escarp
he wanted to cure/fix whatever was wrong with him (we don't have details on that, only that it was a genetic issue, probably caused by his soldier enhancement conditioning)
he didn't want to turn into a smoke monster
coral hatch
Oh, so Moira exploited him for her own twisted experiments
peak escarp
seems like it
Mercy's rez is more like a massive burst of healing rather than raising the dead
you see her use it on Mei in the Zero Hour cinematic
grand wedge
Moira said to Reaper that she saved his life. (But the price to pay seems high since he is in constant pain )
solar pagoda
I thought mercy did surgery on reaper or something and it went wrong?
grand wedge
That’s was a popular theory in the fandom back in 2016, that Mercy resurrected him and something went wrong.
But we have had Moira for almost 3 years now and people still stick with that old belief.
fringe blade
I've honestly wanted to know more about the specifics of Moira's tech all the way since her release
Her tech is in a kind of grey-zone
pliant sparrow
could be he was suffering side effects of the soldier serum
worthy rose
Which hero has the least amount of lore material? I would go with Orisa
nocturne comet
worthy rose
I read Orisa's gamepedia page and her "Story" section is laughably small compared to others
pliant sparrow
orisa has a full blown book
swift mason
Lucio’s dad worked for Vishkar and created the sonic technology Lucio uses now
He hates how vishkar used his dad and so he stole back the tech dad created for himself, that’s why symmetra is skeptical of Lucio
coral hatch
And that's the lore
swift mason
That’s basically it
limpid grail
: (
subtle geyser
we don't know much about zen by far
compared to the other heroes
lucio has appeared a few times but didn't really have his own storyline yet
but zen has no appearances at all apart from the playoverwatch hero descriptions im pretty sure
worthy rose
Support animated short when, Blizz?
limpid grail
I don’t think they base it off roles
grand wedge
The short stories are all about support characters - but that may just be a coincidence
valid terrace
Zenyatta is missing most of his backstory, in contrast to most of the low-lore characters missing their current whereabouts and allegiances
Mostly because his backstory is rather unimportant and boring i’d imagine
grand wedge
But Zen and Bastion are good characters to have the omnic side of the crisis and the awakening
peak escarp
Just 3 more years fellas
@coral hatch it won't take that long
it will be out next year
subtle geyser
or this year
peak escarp
I think this year is unlikely
limpid grail
They should at least give us a opportunity to play the demo they had at blizzcon available to play for all players
hexed lotus
have you guys talked about alyssa wong quitting alreayd
limpid grail
Maybe they could give us another level demo along with the Rio one
But that’s unlikely
lament prawn
if we ever get a demo thats more than just the same rio mission from last time, it will probably only be at the next blizzcon
which is when we're confirmed to get more info anyway
peak escarp
early 2021
opaque tundra
i bet they wont sell virtual tickets and will livestream blizzcon instead on youtube or something
lament prawn
i mean, most events provide the equivalent of blizzcon's opening ceremony, which is already free
what you pay for with the ticket is all the in-depth panels for those who are interested
or if you just want the blizzcon skins
peak escarp
SDCC had a virtual convention this year, with free access to the panels
peak escarp
not at the same price, I hope
subtle geyser
they wont be losing out on that money
yea they increased it
really sucks but people are paying it
i didnt buy the last one because of the price increase
peak escarp
I mean, that's a normal price to pay for convention admission
but if all we get is the in-game rewards, that's too much
subtle geyser
its basically as much as buying a new game, i can just watch it on xoutube after
peak escarp
nobody uploads the art panels on youtube
subtle geyser
they do
peak escarp
or if they do I haven't found them
subtle geyser
i mean
peak escarp
there's specific ones I've never found uploaded anywhere
peak escarp
not the panels about the art
I mean the ones where the artists draw stuff
anyway, I think the Virtual Ticket is worth the money
lament prawn
i mean, the virtual ticket was always... virtual
why would they make it free if nothing is changing on the virtual side of things
if you were gonna go see the panel live, you would have paid for a ticket regardless
grand wedge
But there is a difference in having a public and an online event only
Is Gamescom free online this year ?
valid terrace
Are you guys seeing virtual tickets available? I don’t see the new one yet
grand wedge
What I meant is that the usual virtual ticket is like you are at the Con. But there is no convention this year, so I doubt they will go full show on stage without a public
See what they are doing with the OWL, the virtual Blizzcon won’t be a normal Blizzcon
valid terrace
Ah, I thought we were reacting to a new ticket price
grand wedge
No just speculation ^^
valid terrace
If a virtual blizzcon is held this year, I would expect similar prices to previous ones
I see no reason to change the price greatly up or down
peak escarp
there was Echo's release and the Hero of Numbani novel
peak escarp
it's a novel that was released in June, featuring Orisa and Doomfist and Lucio
worthy rose
Ah makes sense
peak escarp
and Efi, of course
peak escarp
worthy rose
Ima watch hammehs video on it lol
white jackal
Has anyone else seen jet packs cats origin video
You should since this is the lore discussion
limpid agate
@white jackal There isn't one.
white jackal
Search it on YouTube
urban shuttle
I honestly can't tell if the Los Muertos Gang is anti-omnic or not. They were beating up an omnic for existing in the Soldier cinematic, and then in Sombra's origin story there was an omnic among the other gang members. I'm confused
valid terrace
The gang itself doesn’t distinguish, it was just those particular members
Although they aren’t necessarily pro-Omnic either
urban shuttle
I guess the members just differ from each other
limpid agate
@cursive bane This channel is for lore discussion. Not random surveys.
subtle geyser
also los muertos could be another faction that we fight in ow2
although i dont think they're global
peak escarp
nah, they're pretty regional
subtle geyser
yeah but if we're in mexico it could be a possibility
subtle geyser
just similar people that soldier fought?
for example one of them still had a minigun
subtle geyser
its not like they can't come up with new stuff tho
im just saying, since they said null sector and talon wouldn't be the only factions we fight
if there's a regional thing happening its a chance we fight them
peak escarp
I just don't think Los Muertos has the technology or manpower to be a threat to Overwatch
subtle geyser
anyone with a gun can be a threat to them tho, but i was more thinking of a blackwatch operation where they break into somewhere
limpid agate
Los Muertos is too small to be a faction
I said earlier that one possibility would be a whole crime conglamoration
Where the Los Muertos, the Deadlock, and maybe even the Shimada Clan all work together
Maybe throw in a few other unknown sects, like some kind of Mafia.
subtle geyser
i dont see what they would have in common
limpid agate
An enemy
subtle geyser
at least i dont see the shimada clan working with either of those
limpid agate
I would think that at least 2 if not all 3 of those groups
Are already doing business with each other
But that is not really based on anything concrete.
young knoll
don't McCree and Sombra know each other? that might be some indication Los Muertos and Deadlock maybe interacted a bit
subtle geyser
im not sure if mccree knows her but sombra definitely knows about the people in blackwatch and the overwatch strike team
young knoll
I remembered seeing something that I thought indicated that they knew each other
I know in a comic they were in the same room
subtle geyser
yes in the christmas comic
young knoll
could have sworn there was something else
subtle geyser
it was described as a bar where a lot of criminal activity is happening or something similar
id have to check again
not sure if we know what mccree was doing there
but the bar is actually pretty close to sombras home
peak escarp
being in the same room doesn't mean they know each other
particularly since McCree was asleep/passed out
subtle geyser
doc do you have that tweet about the bar?
pretty sure chu said something about this
subtle geyser
yeah well at least he says what the bar is about
it implies what mccree might have been doing there
peak escarp
I think McCree was there hunting Roadhog and Junkrat
since that bar is where they planned the Dorado bank heist
and for the longest time McCree was the only hero to have an interaction with either of them (aside from each other)
iron plume
Didn't the Zarya one come pretty early too?
pliant sparrow
i always thought mccree was tipped on echo's location by sombra
slender crypt
you ever think junkrat and roadhog would join up with talon? considering both want 'chaos'
slender crypt
but i mean, unless the interaction was false, reaper does seem to have interest in junkrat
atleast him anyway
limpid agate
!!wiki Reaper/Quotes
twilit nacelleBOT
For more information about the game, please refer to the wiki: https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Reaper/Quotes
limpid agate
Junkrat: You look like a guy who needs someone blown up.
Reaper: A candidate just came to mind.
Its a joke
Junkrat is offering to do his work to blow stuff up for Reaper.
Reaper is joking that he wants to pay someone to blow up Junkrat
slender crypt
and then you have that genji and junkrat quote, it's fantastic XD
on another topic, why would winston think what soldier is doing is unjustified? he's literally just stopping crime, his own way now.
valid terrace
Without checks and balances
He’s not actually solving any long term problems. He’s just fixing them for the time being
limpid agate
He's also breaking into Helix facilities to steal equipment and just killing people he thinks are threats.
I don't think Spiderman and the Punisher would get along either.
swift mason
He's also on a revenge mission against talon, especially reaper
worthy rose
So who does everyone think will join the New Overwatch?
That’s what I’m curious about
limpid grail
Junkrat: You look like a guy who needs someone blown up. Reaper: A candidate just came to mind.
@limpid agate isn’t that candidate Junkrat because he was annoying reaper
That’s what I always thought
upbeat bison
Welcome to Overwatch, the only organization of super heros dedicated to killing our own members and clones of our own members
turbid pebble
Pretty sure pharah is gonna join
worthy rose
True
turbid pebble
it was her dream
turbid pebble
sodlier is gonna have involvment with the gang for sure
rn he is a vigilante hunting down all people responsible for the fall of ow
upbeat bison
I always thought it was weird how much lore there is to Overwatch but the actual gameplay is as far from lore friendly as it gets
turbid pebble
which ones?
turbid pebble
well there are voice interactions @upbeat bison between 2 characters before the match starts
upbeat bison
And that's about the extent
turbid pebble
well her story will evolve fs
my guess is her and lucio will have an evolving story line
as I assume lucio will stick with overwatch after rio
weather she joins ow or not I don't know
worthy rose
If there’s anyone that would switch from Talon to Overwatch I think it might be Sigma
swift mason
Yeah I can see that happening
turbid pebble
me too
turbid pebble
but I don't think its very likely
upbeat bison
Bastion has no idea where he even is
turbid pebble
doomfist is the boss as far as I know
worthy rose
Meanwhile Sigma be like “A lovely day for field research”
swift mason
Bastion is with torb
turbid pebble
we will learn more about talon with the new monaco payload map
worthy rose
Also I can see bap joining too
worthy rose
That’s actually funny though
turbid pebble
I think if bap doesn't join ill be rlly dissapointed
upbeat bison
No one even likes Moira
turbid pebble
@upbeat bison gameplay wise or her character
worthy rose
What’s funny is how Talon or at least Reaper is trying to kill all former Overwatch agents meanwhile bap just asks sombra where mercy was lmao
swift mason
Y’know how are the end of the Baptiste story he went off in a boat, it would be cool to see baptiste shipwrecked against the rocks of watchpoint Gibraltar and the team finding him and rescuing him
turbid pebble
that is a good theory
turbid pebble
I wonder what willl happen to ana
my guess is she join ow with soldier at some point
upbeat bison
Reinhardt finally gets to die
worthy rose
Is that one of the places you go in the pve campaign is busan
swift mason
Reinhardt is probably the most likely to die in the story
candid juniper
He does have someone to take his place lore-wise so maybe
upbeat bison
Blizzard just silently removes him from the game
turbid pebble
@swift mason wdym?
upbeat bison
Patch notes: Reinhardt fucking died.
worthy rose
Lmao
turbid pebble
not the heroes anyw
candid juniper
That would be funny but if we make any jokes in this channel the mods are gonna kill us
swift mason
It makes sense for rein’s story arc for him to sacrifice himself in a huge battle protecting the team
swift mason
He learned to live with honour, then he will die with glory
candid juniper
It would fit for his character
turbid pebble
in these games i've never seen a hero actually die
swift mason
Jeff has stated before that someone will die in the story, but will remain playable
turbid pebble
imagine playing rein in pvp knowing he's dead thats why I think it wouldn't happen
upbeat bison
I feel like Junkrat would canonically have the most unceremonious death
worthy rose
Why are the best moments in cannon not in animated shorts?
turbid pebble
Jeff has stated before that someone will die in the story, but will remain playable
@swift mason ahh I was not aware of this
upbeat bison
Mcree's pie is better animated than my entire future
turbid pebble
winston managed to defeat doom with primal rage
worthy rose
Genji vs Hanzo
turbid pebble
but only for him to break out of jail
swift mason
We saw most of it already in doom fist origin video
That can technically count as an animated short
worthy rose
They just jumped at each other at the end after doom bodied genji and tracer
swift mason
It is animated
upbeat bison
I want an animation of Junkrat and Roadhog nuking Australia
swift mason
And it’s short
candid juniper
Tru
But the aftermath of the Winston v Doomfist would be interesting to see
After Winston folded him
swift mason
Winston would’ve probably went back to try and bring tracer back
turbid pebble
!!loreguide
twilit nacelleBOT
This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL
There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
worthy rose
Tbh I tried to read Valkyrie and I just can’t sit through all that reading
upbeat bison
I want one of when Australia just fucking died
turbid pebble
I've read most of the comics and stories apart from valkyrie
swift mason
@upbeat bison don’t disrespect my country like that
candid juniper
I read Valkyrie
Didn’t have time to read the Baptiste one
I should catch up
swift mason
Baptiste one is soooo good
upbeat bison
Overwatch already disrespected it when they nuked it
worthy rose
I need some zen lore
upbeat bison
Ow as in the series not the group
swift mason
Well Sydney is still intact
candid juniper
I read parts
But never really got the full idea of it
swift mason
As seen in Lucio ball
upbeat bison
Gun Mercy is the most powerful being in existence
swift mason
Top 5: Winston, sigma, doom fist, tracer, or Moira
upbeat bison
Tracer is literally a twig
swift mason
But she can bend her own time at will
candid juniper
Yh
In the animated short/origin story for Doomfist he folded two OW agents easily so he’s definitely there
worthy rose
Technically she never dies from old age
upbeat bison
Doesn't mean she's ultra powerful. Just means she has a good power.
swift mason
Her condition actually does have an effect on her aging
worthy rose
Genji got bodied so easily lmao
upbeat bison
D.va must have expanded brain if she was able to enlist in military from just playing video games
candid juniper
But if you think about it
A lot of the heroes on the roster could potentially be the most powerful/strongest
upbeat bison
Hamster is strong
swift mason
Just a reminder: No shitposting is allowed too often, it’s ok at rare occasions but too often will not be tolerated. I don’t make the rules, I’m just trying to help
worthy rose
Sigma is definitely on top
candid juniper
Hmm
Maybe
worthy rose
Gravity is nothing to be messed with
swift mason
He has harnessed gravity, which itself is a harness
candid juniper
Tru
worthy rose
I have harnessed the harness
swift mason
Sigma is powerful, but if he were able to control his insanity, he’d hardly be a threat, have you seen his interactions? He’s like the nicest guy
upbeat bison
Zarya has a gun that can just create gravity
candid juniper
Sig is actually pretty chill in his incomplete interactions
worthy rose
He is the nicest guy but still
I just want him to come to his senses and beat talon by himself lol
The talon characters anyway
candid juniper
Which would be nice if they weren’t using him
Maybe a potential story arc where he realizes how Talon is using him
worthy rose
That’s what I think is going to happen
swift mason
plausible theory
I have a theory about a potential story mission
A kings row (or london) mission where we have to go rescue Tracer's Girlfriend Emily from Null sector holding her and many others hostage
cosmic crest
Not a bad idea honestly.
It would be nice to see her in the game in some form.
I think it would be better if they were saving a bunch of people and Emily was amongst them.
swift mason
Ooo that would be cute to see in a cutscene, tracer blinks onto the screen and is like 'Emily? How did you get 'ere?'
limpid grail
Do you think we’ll have missions on talons side too?
iron plume
Probably not at the start
Back to that discussion a bit
Top 5: Winston, sigma, doom fist, tracer, or Moira
Powers-wise, Reaper is a straight upgrade from Moira
Symmetra has a lot of potential with hard light, I'd put her above Moira and Tracer
I'd put Echo in the discussion above them as well
My top 6 in order would be Sigma, Symm, Winston, Echo, Reaper, Doomfist
turbid pebble
from the gameplay trailer it looks like we might be going against some of the talon members
swift mason
That top 5 thing was not in order by any mean, I was just listing characters that would be considered the most powerful
in my opninon
turbid pebble
are we talking about in-game or as the characters
pliant sparrow
characters
turbid pebble
monkey is actually rlly powerful in the story especially whilst in rage
pliant sparrow
yes
iron plume
yeah and I brought up the couple I'd replace
pliant sparrow
moira could have a reasom to be up there
it depends on what she can do with her branch of science
iron plume
In strictly battlefield terms, I don't see her beating Reaper unless she learns to basically raise the dead
turbid pebble
well she is responsible for reapers current power
if anyone could find a way to beat reaper maybe it could be moira
pliant sparrow
i thought we were talking generally strongest
iron plume
Generally strongest is even mooter of a point though
Like
even in battle it depends on many things
if you give me a month to prepare my defenses I'm taking Torb
but at least there's some kind of average power level which we've mostly seen from people (symm being one of few exceptions)
grand wedge
So about biotic healing in OW
Is the technology used by tithe heroes all comes from Mercy nanobiotics? I mean for Ana, Soldier, Baptiste and Mercy
And Moira
iron plume
Everyone but Baptiste
and we don't know about his, so it's still possible
grand wedge
Was it confirmed for Moira too?
I mean Bap weapon is called a biotic launcher so
I guess it was confirmed this way
iron plume
"Biotic" suggests it's similar tech, but we don't know for sure if it's the same. Or whether the it could've been developed independently elsewhere
grand wedge
And forMoira?
iron plume
Not sure about that, but she'd have the closer connection at least
Unless Bap's is through Moira
basically my take re: baptiste is "I believe it, but technically it's not 100%"
grand wedge
Yeah I had the same ^^
peak escarp
@swift mason Tracer does age
limpid agate
Ana, Soldier, Mercy, Moira, and Baptiste all use the same biotic tech.
valid terrace
Just to clarify, Jeff never said they would kill off a hero in the story
He said in the unlikely event that they do, their competitive gameplay will remain unchanged
peak escarp
also that
peak escarp
and it wasn't all of Australia, just the area in the outback around the omnium
valid terrace
Right
I’d wager no more than 50 miles or so
Probably less
Also Tracer’s abilities do not have an effect on her aging
She ages normally
I like catching up with the chat 
sick siren
Symmetra - I'm impressed, I would not think such crude creations actually function.
Torb - Well, thank you, I must say I'm quite surprised may- HEY!
does Torb hate Sym?
grand wedge
They've never met - so no?
peak escarp
they probably wouldn't get along if they met
sick siren
Because torb is literally everything sym hates.
hexed helm
Zenyatta should have lore !!!
peak escarp
he will have lore in OW2
hexed helm
How u know?
peak escarp
because we saw it in the gameplay trailer
peak escarp
hexed helm
He only comes in 2 scenes not even fully on screen but yah sure
fringe blade
I mean
A lot of things come in for even shorter
Like new maps
Does that mean they won't be in overwatch either
peak escarp
also this isn't Zen, it's Maximilien
peak escarp
yes
it was described in the Hero of Numbani novel, and he wore a similar suit in the Masquerade comic
finite mural
you know what would be cool, junkrat backstory
how did he become an explosives freak, was he sane before? what the fuck happened to his arm?
amber socket
I wonder why the formal skin isnt archives then?
peak escarp
not all the canon skins are Archives
drowsy dome
@finite mural you know what, i would really like to know that stuff too. I wish more information would be told about certain characters (i miss the comics they used to put out about them lol)
peak escarp
hopefully we'll get a wave of lore (possibly new comics) in the lead up to OW2's release, similar to what they did in March-May 2016 before Overwatch launched
drowsy dome
i'm truly upset they didn't continue with the shorts but I understand that it might have been a lot to do at the same time.
peak escarp
we still get animated shorts
drowsy dome
I guess what i meant is i would like some more lore behind some. I would like to know more about none popular characters
young knoll
like, characters that aren't played? like lynx, dae hyun, junker queen, etc?
drowsy dome
Well yea i would like more about them but also people like zenyatta, a real short for Moira too
drowsy dome
I never really see anything for them, i see mostly D.va, Mai, and Mercy. Don't get me wrong i like them too but i want more for the others
drowsy dome
and i was happy to see her get one too, just want some lore on others too
valid terrace
Mercy actually has so little for how much we know
She has a short story, and side appearances in comics and events
peak escarp
she hasn't been featured much
aside from Valkyrie, all her appearances have been supporting roles
finite mural
@drowsy dome hi sorry just noticed your message. i agree, i want a more lore for so many characters, like backstories and etc.
drowsy dome
Let me try to correct myself sorry. I like Mercy as a character and would love to see more lore around her. But they have been building so much around these characters and we rarely get any background lol. I think the main thing i would really like to see is how the Fall of Overwatch actually happened. As well as more short/ comics around everyone.
drowsy dome
yesss! like can that be an achieve event???
finite mural
blizzard, get on this
peak escarp
I have a feeling they're saving that to be a big story moment
drowsy dome
that's what i was thinking too, i mean it would get people hyped i think
drowsy dome
trust me i think most fans, who follow this fandom feel the same.
finite mural
true
lament prawn
they said they've set up what they wanted about the past, and now its time to move on into the future with OW2
and archives will no longer be a thing
drowsy dome
did they? that sucks then, like i liked that event alot too but i guess they want to hype the new game
finite mural
well hopefully they release other stuff for the lore
peak escarp
they might still release stories about the past
but the gameplay missions will be present day
finite mural
yeah
drowsy dome
i'm fine with more shorts, comics and short stories but didnt the people who make them leave?
lament prawn
there's probably stories they want to tell, especially with the swiss hq thing, but if any missions will take place in the past then they're going to be minimal
but they could still tell those stories in other mediums
peak escarp
and they're planning on using different mediums to present the lore, so not just comics and animation
@drowsy dome Blizzard has many people on the writing team
Michael Chu and Alyssa Wong have left, but Andrew Robinson, Matt Burns, Jeff Chamberlain, etc. are still there
finite mural
that's gonna be interesting on how they do the mediums
i'm still hoping someone makes an overwatch movie on the lore
peak escarp
one medium I'd like them to use is radio plays/podcast format
have the voice actors act out a story
finite mural
omg yes
peak escarp
they've done some audio-based lore before, with the audio logs from Retribution and Storm Rising
finite mural
yeah, but a podcast would be wicked
peak escarp
and it could be in serial format, with multiple episodes
finite mural
if they do a live action show, i hope they keep some of the og cast
peak escarp
I don't think they'll do any live action
drowsy dome
yea, i like that if they did a podcast that it would be easier to listen too while doing other things
peak escarp
that doesn't seem like Blizzard's style
finite mural
i would listen to that podcast
drowsy dome
wasnt there a 'rumor' about a show coming out?
finite mural
i think so
peak escarp
someone higher up had an Overwatch series pitch mentioned in their portfolio, but it has since been removed
so we don't know what will come of that
finite mural
hmm
i think a show would be better than a movie actually
handles the lore better, go more in depth.
drowsy dome
i would like a show on like netflix or something, more in depth episodes and all
finite mural
def netflix or smth like hbo
peak escarp
yeah
drowsy dome
i think if they were to do a movie it would be better on the level of like major events like the ending of the omi-crisis or th downfall
finite mural
yeah
for me, how i would lay it out (i'm going into film and television) you would have 50 - 60 minute episodes where you handle certain situations each season
first season would be omnic crisis, etc.
season finale would be on the terms on a full length movie, to get the action involved. the series would then go on to the recall, and current events of ow
drowsy dome
that would be something worth watching, i think they would do really good if they did something like that. Would bring more attention to the game (even though it's quite popular anyways).
finite mural
it would also help people who want to get into ow but don't want to read up on the lore
drowsy dome
i agree, I think since they did such a great job with the other shorts and proved that they can create good short stories and comic. shows would be the next logical step lol
finite mural
yeah
solar pagoda
did you guys know torbjorn railed sombra
peak escarp
!!shitposting @solar pagoda
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solar pagoda
no but seriously which characters had a relationship
peak escarp
Mercy and Genji have an implied relationship, but nothing confirmed
Tracer has a girlfriend named Emily
Ana has an ex husband named Sam
solar pagoda
didnt sam die
peak escarp
Soldier has an ex boyfriend named Vincent
no, Sam is alive
here's him having dinner with Fareeha during the holidays
Widowmaker has a deceased ex husband named Gerard
Torbjorn has a wife named Ingrid
solar pagoda
ya she killed him
solar pagoda
well a widow doesnt mean you killed your husband lol
swift mason
Maybe in her years as an assassin she also made other people widows by either killing their sons or husbands
fringe blade
I always though her name was symbolic of the fact that she makes widows
Killing spouses
etc.
cerulean ice
no because shes like a spider lol
and widow fits so
and widow is a spider species
fringe blade
I think its a clever pun
cerulean ice
long jay
i have a great idea
what if...
B.O.B was a playable charecter and his ult he says ashe do something
topaz steeple
That would make sense because the Ashe on my team never does anything
hasty surge
Is there Guillard in overwatch?
grand wedge
Widowmaker is Amélie Guillard. She took her husband’s name when they got married, Lacroix
Château Guillard is her family castle.
cosmic crest
That's a good question, how is Helix related to the colour yellow?
There is no correlation there.
pliant sparrow
I'd always assumed they were blue and yellow because of pharah's armour
swift mason
Time to go English teacher on this. Black and yellow are associated with the colours of a bee. Bees tend to defend their hive and their queen. Helix is used to defend certain places such as the prison doom fist was in. Bees are also quite neutral and will attack if threatened, helix are a neutral organisation that enforces the law, especially the petras act and will act against anyone that threatens the law
worthy rose
So who is the oldest character in the game?
Sigma?
Also another thing I find funny about Helix is how did they just let Doomfist punch his way out that whole time and did nothing about it lol?
cerulean ice
ana, sigma, or reinhardt
cinder totem
soldier?
grand wedge
Sigma is 62 Rein 61 and Ana 60
As for Doomfist, Helix didn't exactly let him punch his way out, since Reaper was on the other side killing them. That may have give him the diversion he needed.
It began in the early hours of the morning, when an unidentified aircraft approached the facility. Security initially reported that the craft had no passengers on board, based on radar scans. The craft passed through the range of the installation's defense systems without incident, leading some to believe that Talon has moles within Helix. Video surveillance from within the compound revealed a black shadowy figure emerging from the craft and descending upon the prison grounds. The unidentified assailant easily overcame the Helix security agents, leaving over a dozen dead. Medical records of the casualties reveal injuries and cellular degeneration matching other incidents involving the mercenary known as the Reaper, all but confirming the incursion as a Talon attack.
Also, there was probably some moles inside to let him escape.
drowsy dome
Would you stop Doomfist if you heard him punching his way out of prison? lol, no seriously i think @grand wedge is right, Reaper was causing a diversion giving Doomfist time to leave
static hill
Isn't sigma the oldest yet most powerful character?
He literally controls gravity
Well, it has its limits
drowsy dome
Sigma is the oldest one as of right now but not by much. But anyone who can control gravity is powerful lol
worthy rose
Zarya can literally shoot a mini black hole.
In game, atleast.
Talon got moles everywhere lmao
worthy rose
Interesting.
turbid pebble
although many people have the misconception it is a black whole
worthy rose
Siense
worthy rose
So I know In game voice lines aren’t cannon so does Pharah know Ana is still alive?
turbid pebble
yes
peak escarp
the letter from Ana's origin trailer is the letter Ana sent Pharah to tell her she was alive
turbid pebble
and voice lines are basically pieces of lore
peak escarp
and she sent another message in Bastet, when they were leaving Cairo
Pharah hasn't responded yet
worthy rose
Ah I see
turbid pebble
it helps players who are not interested in the lore still know whats happening just by playing the game
drowsy dome
So has Ana not seen her then? since she's trying remain in the shadows with Solider?
peak escarp
yep
worthy rose
Isn’t Ana watching her?
peak escarp
“I… left her a message,” Ana said.
“You’re sure you can leave things like this? It could be a long time before you see her again.”
If ever.
Ana sighed. “She never responded to my first letter.”
Jack winced. “She’ll come around in time. She loves you. Did you tell Sam anything?”
“I will, eventually. Maybe,” Ana said. “I made a big enough mess of his life without having to give him the news. None of us are very good at saying goodbye, are we?”```Ah
drowsy dome
so do you think Pharah upset that Ana never told her that she was alive or that she is in hiding?
turbid pebble
probably
peak escarp
she did kinda idolize her mother
turbid pebble
@peak escarp some voice interactions kinda state she doesn't anymore tho
can't remember which ones
drowsy dome
i know she idolized her and didn't she wish to also join Overwatch, or am i imagining that?
worthy rose
Originally I believe
turbid pebble
no ur right
peak escarp
those voice lines show that if she found out the truth (that Ana blocked Overwatch from recruiting her) Pharah would resent her
peak escarp
the voice lines in the game are mostly "what if" situations
drowsy dome
i know that Brigitte wished to join too but after everything she was like nahh
peak escarp
what if Reinhardt knew Reaper was Reyes - he'd probably call him a traitor
what if Mercy met Lucio - she'd probably ask about his father's tech
worthy rose
So what did Overwatch do to rein that mad torb so upset?
peak escarp
they forced him to retire
drowsy dome
I think they told him to leave??? not a 100% sure
peak escarp
we don't know exactly why, but it seems like he was the leader on a mission that went badly
worthy rose
Ah I see
drowsy dome
They sort of talked about it in the short for Rein, kind of
peak escarp
it was mentioned in the chatter during the Storm Rising mission
drowsy dome
oh yeah! i forgot about that
peak escarp
Tracer: Mercy, have you talked to Reinhardt much since...
Mercy: Only a little. He's taking it all very hard.
Tracer: I miss having him around...
Mercy: You should talk to him. I think he'd like the company.
drowsy dome
was that one part of like idle game play conversations? becuase if so i rarely got them
peak escarp
also Sombra and Brigitte have an interaction about it
yeah it was
the more you played the mode, the more chatter you'd get
drowsy dome
i always got the same ones between the same characters or certain characters left half way through. so i think i missed out on alot of those type of conversations in game
peak escarp
Sombra: You know, I've seen Reinhardt's Overwatch file.
Brigitte: What are you getting at?
Sombra: I wonder if he's really told you the truth about his retirement.
drowsy dome
i love how Sombra is just dropping all these facts on people lol
peak escarp
you can hear all the interactions here: https://youtu.be/HXb51WNJtcc
drowsy dome
ahhh thank you!
hasty surge
So why do you think renhardt retired?
limpid agate
It is suggested he we forced to retire
hasty surge
but for reasons we don't know about
plush aspen
He was forced to
drowsy dome
i think we came to the conclusion it was a mission gone wrong which led to it
peak escarp
Reinhardt was the strike team leader before Sojourn, so it's likely a mission went sideways and Reinhardt shouldered the blame
some people have suggested it was due to a deteriorating mental state, the sort that career football players get from repeated concussions
sick siren
Is there any science behind nanoboost?
daring hill
Lots and lots of caffeine?
worthy rose
drugs
daring hill
Yep
limpid agate
@sick siren We don't know how it works, or even if it works.
But it's probably some sort of Adrenaline.
sick siren
Because surely it must be some form of intense condense form of energy
limpid agate
That is assuming it works how it does in game
Which is not necessarily true.
We've seen Brig, Lucio and Mercy, and their support abilities work far differently.
sick siren
I wanna know these things. Michael Chu needs to answer all of my damn questions
limpid agate
Michael Chu doesn't work for Blizzard.
sick siren
But he does lore stuff for OW, right?
sick siren
I would seriously love for some scientist to create a video series explaining how all the different video game tech and science works
sick siren
Hard Light would be so cool.
Also where the hell do Sym teleporters appear from?
Or are the teleporters hard light structures too? @limpid agate
limpid agate
Yes
fringe blade
I just found out that Alyssa Wong left Blizzard
Feels bad
I wonder how much that actually impacted the lore writing for OW2
Who was/is the lead writer after Chu left?
grand wedge
We don't know
They hired a Senior Narrative Designer a few weeks ago
I suppose the writters have written a lot of lore during the development already - a game based on PVE and having a story mode need to have a good story.
Also, they said there would be different mediums to expand the lore and the story
If they bring back comics or other things - they may have already been working on it before they left too
fringe blade
I really enjoyed the Baptiste short story
its a shame that Wong left
She was a skilled writer
peak escarp
Who was/is the lead writer after Chu left?
@fringe blade Jeff Chamberlain
he directed the Cinematic Trailer (aka the museum short)
fringe blade
Isn't he the cinematic director?
Nvm, he's the creative director
I'm not sure if that means they didn't hire/promote a lead writer
worthy rose
Wait so is everything they did still cannon even though they left?
fringe blade
I don't see why it wouldn't be
The Baptiste short story is still canon, and Wong left
Countless works/comics are still canon and Chu worked on those
tardy prism
I wish the comics were longer
peak escarp
things don't suddenly cease to be canon just because the writer changed
you'd never be able to maintain continuity if that happened
things stay canon until retconned, which doesn't happen often
cerulean ice
i just wanna share how symmetra is a well-designed character
and to add that she is also autistic
love her
peak escarp
I just wish we got to see more of her
acoustic arrow
worthy rose
just want to say the ow lore is amazing
fringe blade
I think its very likely that Vishkar will play a major role in OW2
tardy prism
I want B.O.B. Vs Reinhardt wrestling match in OW2
hard sinew
Interesting
graceful escarp
I'd like more Ashe/Mccree lore
fringe blade
There's going to be a mission in Route 66
And the McCree short left us with a sort of cliffhanger
peak escarp
I don't think Ashe will be involved in the story
the mission we saw was a Hero Mission, not a Story Mission
worthy rose
I want zenyatta to get more backround..
limpid grail
I think they might include every hero in the story missions
iron plume
that’s very unlikely
limpid agate
I think they might include every hero in the story missions
They already said that's not happening
limpid grail
Oh
visual swan
sad
wet crescent
Wait did anybody else get a vibe that Echo and McCree had a thing for each other?
I don’t even know if that’s possible with Echo but it felt like it
iron plume
McCree often guarded Mina Liao after Echo's creation
and he was one of the few that know Echo's true capabilities
I don't think there's a "thing", but they're close
wet crescent
Ah ok. Someone should tell all the online fanfic writers....
iron plume
well, compared to a lot of others, this one is at least somewhat possible
even if it won't ever be explicitly confirmed
worthy rose
I don't know if this counts as lore but, y'know how the Defence team is blue and the Attack team is red. Most often, blue means good and red means bad. But, if you think about it, the Defence team is bad and the Attack team is good. Think about this: It's Numbani. The Attack team is trying to take the Doomfist Gauntlet to the Numbani Museum whilst the Defence team is trying to stop them. See? At a museum you'd usually keep relics, not take them away as the (commonly referred to as good, blue) Defence team.
cerulean ice
..
iron plume
the Defence team is blue and the Attack team is red.
It's not
The player's team is blue and the enemy is red
worthy rose
What if you do spectator mode, or look at the objective marker?
iron plume
And even that aside, Numbani is just one case
In King's Row, the attackers are taking an EMP to an Omnic settlement
worthy rose
For the greater good, there might still be some rogue omnics.
worthy rose
iron plume
wiping out an entire district of civilians for the sake of possibly maybe killing "a few rogues" is not for the greater good
More often than not though, there's no clear "good" or "bad" side
either because you can look at it from multiple sides or because the objective is nebulous and/or ultimately unimportant
worthy rose
An electromagnetic pulse, also sometimes called a transient electromagnetic disturbance, is a short burst of electromagnetic energy. Such a pulse's origin may be a natural occurrence or man-made and can occur as a radiated, electric, or magnetic field or a conducted electric current, depending on the source.
(Source: Wikipedia)
Does this say anything about killing humans or other species?
iron plume
its intent is to kill omnics
civilian omnics
I didn't bring up humans "or other species"
worthy rose
I guess you have a point. But, if you think Sombra's EMP, why doesn't it "harm" her team as well. Sure, it's just because they're on the same team but still.
worthy rose
iron plume
as seen in Searching
and I'd wager a bomb the size of a payload is quite a bit more powerful than whatever blast Sombra carries on herself
worthy rose
Sombra's origin implies that her body was "modified", so maybe something happened in there to make her make such a big wave.
idk :P
iron plume
clearly
worthy rose
Is Baptiste a doctor?
iron plume
He's a medic
cerulean ice
combat medic
iron plume
Originally and in Talon, combat specifically
Nowadays not just that
worthy rose
But didn’t he open clinics?
iron plume
He worked in some, he didn't open them
And a clinic in wartorn/disaster areas usually focus on injuries, which a medic can deal with
worthy rose
Ah I see
wet crescent
Sombras emp really just doesn’t make sense. Wish they would rework it so it stunned all enemies for 1 second. Although that might break the game
peak escarp
that doesn't make any sense
I mean, the way EMP works now doesn't make sense but at least its consistent with hack
lament prawn
gameplay balance > making sense
also, an EMP physically stunning people makes less sense than it does right now
the way i like to think of hack/emp to make sense of it is that she actually hacks your game and stops you from using abilities
instead of hacking the tech itself
similar to how d.va refers to everything like its a game
umbral temple
that’s meta
drifting arch
It's actually quite funny to see a hacked McCree not able to roll
I didn't realize rolling required technology lmao
umbral temple
well it could be something else
he’s holding his gun in one hand which will already make it difficult to roll
also, if she’s just hacking any “technology”, that might disable his other arm?
and rolling with one arm while holding a revolver is probably really hard
plus if you just have a limp metal noodle blocking the way
but by that logic he might not be able to fan the hammer, so never mind
cosmic crest
She also stops Solider from running so...
iron plume
I doubt it's productive to go too deep into that
drowsy dome
i just love the concept that when sombra hacks someone they just forget normal things like running or rolling lol.
steel spade
new sombra ult: all heroes get stunned because they all pissed their pants. Sombra hacked their bladder
worthy rose
new sombra ult: all heroes get stunned because they all pissed their pants. Sombra hacked their bladder
@steel spade YES
limpid agate
!!shitposting @steel spade
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steel spade
lol sure mate
pliant sparrow
So do omnics run on electricity? Or another power source?
cosmic crest
They are likely self-sustaining in some way.
I imagine they have an internal power source of some kind.
iron plume
Well, it ultimately would be electricity, because I don't think they've got like
steam computers within there
but it's not grid electricity
cerulean ice
sombra's hack ingame is just a gameplay mechanic
obviously lorewise it would affect technology
peak escarp
it would completely disable all the omnics, some weapons and tech, but would be mostly ineffective on ordinary humans
cerulean ice
logic doesnt have to necessarily be applied ingame
same how zen gets trapped by junkrat trap
clear quiver
And sigma
worn vigil
limpid agate
Bob is turret, not a hero
It has nothing to do with the lore
Consistent gameplay mechanics trump lore and logical exception
cerulean ice
^
turbid pebble
I wonder how bob came to be in ashe's possession
worthy rose
Since she came from a rich family, I'm guessing he was a butler to serve her family?? This is what I assume, I'm not a lore specialist lol.
peak escarp
I'm curious to know when Bob joined the family
in Ashe's origin trailer we first see Bob when Ashe is a teenager
drowsy dome
i think he was hired to be like her (Ashe's) care giver cause her parents were always away, but i honestly don't remember where i read that or if it correct
twilit wyvern
We love ashee 😌
native crypt
WHO IS HAMMONDS FATHER???!?!??
peak escarp
a hamster? I don't see why that's worth yelling about
native crypt
Is wrecking ball the hamster or the mech
Is wrecking ball the hamster or the mech
Is wrecking ball the hamster or the mech
turbid pebble
wrecking ball is the name he earned for himself for fighting in the outback
twilit wyvern
He is just a hamster later inside of a mech. When killed, he flies out of the mech tho.
drifting arch
Imagine if Hammy operated the same way as baby Dva when his mech is destroyed
All you see is a hamster running around
peak escarp
that would be a nightmare
drifting arch
If we complain about baby Dva having a small hitbox, try Hammy out of mech
peak escarp
only if there's an option to punt him like a football
twilit wyvern
Omg... yes
blazing furnace
oh wow lmfao
drifting arch
No punting hamsters
lament prawn
way too much work for a mere ability but i would die for that to be a PvE thing
ejecting as hammond i mean, not the punting bit
fringe blade
imagine if there was like a special mission for Hamster out of mech
sour solar
They would be the actually idk
fringe blade
Maybe some sort of Cats and Mouse gamemode?
Where one Hamster has to get past 3 hunters
peak escarp
for PvE?
valid terrace
Zuzu pets
fringe blade
Might be a good idea for a PvP gamemode then
I just want to see Hammond out of mech, that's all
lol
lament prawn
i mean it doesnt need a whole gamemode to revolve around it
it could literally just be PvE talent that makes it work like d.va
only thing is thats way too much work for a simple talent, compared to the ones we've seen
a lot of people made jokes about hammond leaving his mech like d.va when he first came out, so im sure an ability like that at least crossed their minds while developing his talents, but they probably quickly disregarded it due to how much work it would take
peak escarp
!!shitposting @cold vapor
twilit nacelleBOT
@cold vapor Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
cold vapor
what do you mean I saw a video on this lore website it looked officail was it FAKE?!?!
peak escarp
that never happened
fringe blade
quite the comedian, aren't you
peak escarp
sure you did
limpid agate
Moving swiftly onwards
@fringe blade That's not an appropriate joke either
Consider this your final warning.
fringe blade
:(
zinc python
hello
drowsy dome
so i rewatched the Dragons short, and i low key want to see the fight between Genji and Hanzo, cause i feel like Genji might have held back during that fight. Or is that just me?
peak escarp
I think he was