All I know is the 4 silhouetes
#lore-discussion
limpid agate
worthy rose
dreamfisher you made my day
limpid agate
Which is 3 female looking heroes, and 1 warlock looking hero
placid fulcrum
That same article mentions that one of the female characters has a fox companion and something that looks like a giant shuriken
peak escarp
you don't have to ping me
placid fulcrum
This isn't news
limpid agate
There is no such thing as Ares.
Ares was never a real thing
Ares was some fool trying to find meaning where there was none
Its a skycode
worthy rose
but if it's made into a hero ?
limpid agate
That same article mentions that one of the female characters has a fox companion and something that looks like a giant shuriken
Yeah that doesn't mean anything Japanese.
worthy rose
a spartan like warrior from greece ?
peak escarp
why?
worthy rose
@placid fulcrum would you like something like that ?
limpid agate
They said Yuffie because that's what they could think of
placid fulcrum
I mean... a shuriken and a fox is traditionally a very Japanese imagery, so I'd be surprised if she was of another ethnicity. That said it doesn't mean she's from a Shimada clan
limpid agate
Qiyana in League has the same kind of weapon
worthy rose
but league has no real earth places
placid fulcrum
Does she have a fox too?
worthy rose
it's runeterra
worthy rose
it's a thing that controls 3 elements
trust me ... that character of league is just weird
limpid agate
It looks like a Shuriken in half of her skins
worthy rose
but league has nothing to do with real life earth
young knoll
is that a chakram?
limpid agate
Yes
The hero of note wielded a giant four-sided weapon, which is somewhat similar to the shuriken used by Yuffie in Final Fantasy VII, but much thicker
They didnt say it was a shuriken
They said it was like Yuffie's weapon
In that it was a giant 4 sided weapon
peak escarp
the article also described the fox as fennec-like
lavish elm
Fennic foxes are native to Australian
peak escarp
fennecs are desert creatures
lavish elm
Australia
placid fulcrum
Eh, I won't argue. But a description of a girl with a fox and a shuriken sounds Japanese to me. I wonder why are you trying so hard to deny this. If you see an empty cookie jar and the cookie monster next to it, are you also going to insist that someone else must've eaten them?
worthy rose
is she jealous of jap girls ?
placid fulcrum
I'm a big fan of Occam's Razor myself
lavish elm
I’m not trying hard to deny it I’m just stating fact.
limpid agate
Here's another character with a large weapon like Yuffie's
Except this one has 3 points instead of 4
lavish elm
Blazblue
peak escarp
it's not a problem of making logical conclusions
limpid agate
They just said it was a 4 sided weapon.
worthy rose
that changes everything
limpid agate
Like Yuffie
peak escarp
we are just trying to prevent the spread of misinformation
lavish elm
I’m still attached to the theory it’s junkerqueen. A queen would likely have a pet
worthy rose
@placid fulcrum i have a legit theory about that hero you said
lavish elm
An Australian pet
placid fulcrum
I google yuffie and her weapon looks nothing like what you posted here on the first images that show up
worthy rose
well if she is jap , and not a pure blood simada then she can't have the dragons ... but still is trained as her peers
maybe she is related to the two brothers ... and maybe a good fit for the story
worthy rose
for real ?
placid fulcrum
peak escarp
yes
worthy rose
horde only
limpid agate
Add 1 more spike to that.
worthy rose
A hero with a glaive weapon would be cool imo
Its something different than what we have
young knoll
well, shurikens are already something a hero has as well
valid terrace
Not a massive one
Sigmas orbs are visually similar to Zens but function differently
young knoll
I concede the point there
limpid agate
If only I remembered the Night Elf Moonglaive sooner
That's probably the best example out there
Of a giant multi-faced weapon like Yuffie's
That isn't Japanese
And as was mentioned earlier.
They said Fennec Fox.
worthy rose
she is japanese ....
limpid agate
Fennecs are not Japanese.
limpid agate
What are you on about
We know nothing about the silhouette
Other than the description of it
Its:
- Feminine
- Large four sided weapon
- Fennec-like Fox
worthy rose
-from japan
worthy rose
could be tho...
limpid agate
That was baseless speculation
lavish elm
It was never specified.
limpid agate
Doesnt matter.
peak escarp
it could be
valid terrace
We don’t know where she’s from
worthy rose
not baseless
peak escarp
it could not be
limpid agate
It is baseless
worthy rose
-from shimada clan
peak escarp
it might not even be female - that's just what the author of that article assumed
worthy rose
it's an opinion you know
limpid agate
We werent discussing opinion
valid terrace
The chance of her being Japanese is ~20% imo
limpid agate
We were discussing what we know
worthy rose
well he says she is similar to the other one... so
limpid agate
We know nothing about the silhouette
Other than the description of it
Its:
- Feminine
- Large four sided weapon
- Fennec-like Fox
you forgot 2 facts...
limpid agate
Anything else is pure speculation based on second hand description.
peak escarp
let me find the actual article
valid terrace
The only Japanese thing is that her weapon resembles a shuriken
limpid agate
This is it.
This is all we know
We know literally nothing else about this silhouette.
worthy rose
she is no way from australia ... that's something this article said to me
peak escarp
- creature that looks like a fennec fox (big ears, fluffy tail)
- four-sided weapon
- female with short hair
worthy rose
Even the author of the article says that what he describes is also just speculation
worthy rose
what's that ????
valid terrace
It could be Japanese, but with all the countries out there and only two half similarities it would be foolish to hard claim she is Japanese at this point
peak escarp
these omnics are seen in mugshots on the Paris map in the Police station
worthy rose
that looks interesting
but the guy probably would have said if she is a bot ...
you can always tell one person apart from a robot
You cant tell that from the silhouette
young knoll
he only saw silhouette, read the excerpt
worthy rose
oh yeah ... you are right , so sorry
valid terrace
Please stop saying jap
peak escarp
I would argue that her being Japanese makes less sense
worthy rose
japanese *
valid terrace
And also it’s not even a strong case for it
peak escarp
because we already have 2 Japanese heroes
valid terrace
We have 4 American
peak escarp
and aside from the Americans, all the heroes from the same country have been related
worthy rose
and no greek ... ares must be born
Those... arent the only two that make sense, that's your opinion
peak escarp
it makes sense that we have more Americans because Blizzard is an American company
valid terrace
I agree a Greek hero needs to happen, but there’s no reason it has to be ares since there’s no real evidence for it
worthy rose
but plenty americans are weebs ... so japanese heroes will be plenty too
true ... at least a warrior type then
we have ilios ... and not a hero being there for it
worthy rose
^^^
valid terrace
If Hamid gets added, at least Ilios will make some sense
valid terrace
I do like the Ilios statue design, so something stemming from that would be cool
As much as I don’t like the ares idea
worthy rose
yeah ... they released a hamster ...
valid terrace
That’s not relevant
worthy rose
imagine picking a hamster and not something so cool
valid terrace
Hammond was teased for awhile
valid terrace
We just didn’t piece together that he was a hamster
worthy rose
winston is cool and he fits ... the other one tho...
pastel ocean
what
peak escarp
Hammond came from the same origin as Winston
how does Winston fit but Hammond doesn't?
worthy rose
They're both animals, I could argue that I dont find Winston cool and he was a wasted spot
valid terrace
There is a known base for altered animals, what is confusing about a hamster being on the guest list?
pastel ocean
yall just say stuff sometimes
winston is cool and he fits ... the other one tho...
they both fit, and well too
pastel ocean
overwatch is made to have a colorful roster hell why not throw in a hamster
pastel ocean
thats a omnic and you can tell
worthy rose
not 100 percent the case
peak escarp
if I didn't know who that was, I would not guess she was an omnic
limpid agate
Because you've seen the character before
pastel ocean
no cus i can see the joints
worthy rose
If you didnt know who Luna was, no you couldnt tell
worthy rose
oh my ... a cyborg enhanced ninja from japan
limpid agate
They were described to us from a slideshow which the reporter admits he didn't get a good look at because it went by so quickly
pastel ocean
i agree you cant make a definite assumption but you can still assume if something is a omnic from the silhoutte because of their detailing
worthy rose
could be a trap...
limpid agate
Those look like boots
valid terrace
Yes
pastel ocean
im talking about the legs
and thats not all
you can see arm joints and the limbs are sharper and flatter in some areas
worthy rose
good observation
I dont see it with the legs, that's just pixelation from rendering it as a silhouette
pastel ocean
so either they saw a silhouette of a bot
or a silhouette of somebody with a limb like mccree
but
peak escarp
how about this?
pastel ocean
i wouldnt take a reporters word for anything
peak escarp
worthy rose
maybe is she half robot ?
peak escarp
pastel ocean
yeah i figured it was a bot
limpid agate
peak escarp
@worthy rose you just described Genji
pastel ocean
and i figured it was him too but i thought you were trying to make a point
worthy rose
@peak escarp imagine a female one tho ... fans will love it
and blizzard is a business after all
valid terrace
Is that Moira?
limpid agate
No.
peak escarp
we don't need another Genji
pastel ocean
thats junk isnt it
valid terrace
Widow?
pastel ocean
wait is it widow or junk
worthy rose
If I didnt know that was widow I'd say it's a bot
young knoll
those needle things look like the ones from Widowmaker
valid terrace
You can’t tell much besides weapon and body shape from silhouettes
valid terrace
Especially with Blizzard trying to subvert stereotypes
pastel ocean
almost every character has a unique silhouette though
worthy rose
what's that ?
valid terrace
):
limpid agate
Which one(s) are the robot(s)
peak escarp
silhouette is important in Overwatch - the devs want you to be able to identify a hero and their abilities just by silhouette
pastel ocean
you said its a trick question right?
worthy rose
probably ....
pastel ocean
as in theyre all robots or they all arent
worthy rose
jesse from team rocket ?
worthy rose
Taiga is trying to explain that you cant tell if a hero is omnic or human from just the silhouette
valid terrace
If we didn’t know the characters, there would really be no way to tell
limpid agate
We do know the characters though.
valid terrace
Ik
pastel ocean
the girl w the pack and claw is a human right
valid terrace
All non botters
pastel ocean
i cant remember, i just know she also had like spider leg shits in other art
valid terrace
Not human either for one
limpid agate
Here's the girl.
limpid agate
So can you determine if the other two are omnics or not?
valid terrace
Keep in mind the guy only saw a group for a short time and had to recollect everything he saw
young knoll
you can literally make a silhouette of a pile of trash that looks like a human
why are you arguing this
pastel ocean
bottom left is not human but i dont think its a robot either so lol
pastel ocean
top is something in a suit isnt it
worthy rose
This is a pointless conversation
valid terrace
If you didn’t know about the monkey would you seriously be able to tell?
limpid agate
The top one is Wildebeest
Bottom left is Winston
Bottom right is Mei (early Canadian concept, not final Chinese).
pastel ocean
i got two out of 3 so
pastel ocean
huh?
limpid agate
Wildebeest is an omnic
pastel ocean
bottom left is not human but i dont think its a robot either so lol
?
is the bottom left not winston
pastel ocean
anyways
valid terrace
Without knowing the character your chances are roughly half
That’s the point here
Not that you guessed right
limpid agate
Is this an omnic?
worthy rose
yep , he is black
limpid agate
Its Wrecking Ball.
pastel ocean
LOL
pastel ocean
then its not an omnic
valid terrace
But would you know that from the silhouette and not from prior knowledge?
limpid agate
Yall forget that
people thought Sombra was an omnic for a long time
And all we had was a silhouette
pastel ocean
if jeff kaplan showed me a silhouette of a circle i wouldnt make any assumptions because its a circle
peak escarp
I think this experiment would be more effective with silhouettes of characters we don't already know
worthy rose
past is kinda useless... if it didn't make it back then, there is no chance to see it now
those people will keep for fresh ideas
limpid agate
I think this experiment would be more effective with silhouettes of characters we don't already know
Why I used Mei and Wildebeest. We know them. Most don't
grand wedge
What's going on with the silhouettes?
valid terrace
Bold claims and egos
valid terrace
While moving on... do you think the Masquerade skin for Reaper will have a lore blurb?
pastel ocean
i dont even know why im being questioned on the race of characters because all i said was you could make assumptions based off of a silhouette
slow as hell
worthy rose
yeah ... i am curious about mercy's as well
pastel ocean
i hope
worthy rose
the dragoon ... genji's wife ? lol
pastel ocean
widow's skin isnt just a recolor with the fleur symbol on it
lavish elm
You can’t assume a race based off a silhouette, never mind one you haven’t seen
peak escarp
it's an epic skin
valid terrace
Yeah
pastel ocean
also
worthy rose
would be cool...
valid terrace
Lately the epics have improved greatly
pastel ocean
its probably something along the lines of that
worthy rose
now i am afraid....
peak escarp
I don't think it will be a cavalry skin
worthy rose
i was hopping to see mercy dragon-like
lavish elm
Dragon rider is also another name for a dragoon
valid terrace
Helps to ride your tanks around and a flintlock pistol would be cool for her
peak escarp
worthy rose
yeah ... this seems very likely
valid terrace
That’s what she said
peak escarp
that's Legend of Dragoon
worthy rose
this style fits with ow
pastel ocean
it could mean the derivation of the word but thats unlikely
worthy rose
yeah ... i believe blizzard should focus on what's cool
not the diversity she tries to accomplish
pastel ocean
i sent the cavalry because i feel like thats likely what it is
peak escarp
why would it be British cavalry?
worthy rose
that's why it is a dope event
pastel ocean
first of all
dragoons were in switzerland, sweden, and spain as well
theyre not just british cavalry
valid terrace
Because it’s anniversary
worthy rose
because she is a hot hot lady
pastel ocean
why would mercy get a skin based on another game?
valid terrace
Why is Ashe little red riding hood
white cobalt
Also, remember Anniversary isnt always related with lore
worthy rose
cause he can
pastel ocean
i mean, nothing is set in stone
white cobalt
Otherwise...Zen
peak escarp
I'm not saying Dragoon will be a ripoff of those games
worthy rose
true ... a makeover perhaps
peak escarp
I'm saying it will be based on the fantasy version of a dragoon, rather than the real-world version
worthy rose
the real world version would be kinda boring
pastel ocean
maybe when it says dragoon it doesnt mean the original horseback version
peak escarp
Anniversary skins don't have a theme, but they do make sense for the heroes they are given to
Little Red Ashe works because of Bob
pastel ocean
and i said the dragoon cavalry because of their place in switzerland, and mercy was stationed in switzerland
worthy rose
also that makes sense ...
pastel ocean
maybe in the ow universe they had dragoons that were like
worthy rose
it's not possible to know for now
pastel ocean
not on horseback? who knows
grand wedge
But the wings are Mercy
peak escarp
Huitzilopochtli makes sense for Zen because he already has one skin linked to a sun god (Ra) and his transcendence looks like a sun
grand wedge
All her skins have something to do with winged characters
pastel ocean
yeah thats what im thinking
grand wedge
So it make more sense to have a fantasy dragoon with wings
peak escarp
exactly
pastel ocean
i just wanna see her in something that isnt bright
worthy rose
yeah ...a darker version for change would be nice
pastel ocean
so if it its the fantasy dragoon i hope they go for the darker version from final fantasy
peak escarp
peak escarp
(also from Legend of Dragoon)
pastel ocean
that'd be nice as hell
white cobalt
We dont get very dark stuff, we get dark but toned down
pastel ocean
i love mercy's long hair
white cobalt
Reaper skin in comic, his face is a skull. Here is covered with a mask.
peak escarp
when the comic came out, a lot of people thought the skull was Reaper's face
pastel ocean
im pretty sure
i feel like the only reason the full face wasnt a skull ingame was because they maybe wanted the gold accents to match w it
but its not even exactly like the comic
grand wedge
They wanted something for the style of mask people wear at Venise ( only on the eyes)
pastel ocean
i like this one better than the comic's version, honestly
grand wedge
but the original from the comic was really creepy - I'm a bit sad they didn't kept the skull
peak escarp
it's from Phantom of the Opera
grand wedge
ok thanks
peak escarp
which uses the character from Poe's Red Death
grand wedge
(sounds like fan fiction ! ahah)
peak escarp
In The Phantom of the Opera by Gaston Leroux, Erik appears at the masquerade dressed as the Red Death.
kindof is
pastel ocean
perfect outfit for reaper
pastel ocean
me too
sick siren
Based on lore and abilities - which overwatch hero is most likely to have the potential to become a reality?
young knoll
I would say McCree
limpid agate
I don't think that's what they were asking?
@sick siren Do you mean real life, or most likely to become a hero
peak escarp
quite a few of the heroes' abilites are plausible based on technology we have now
sick siren
In real life, definitely
Widowmaker could be pretty likely. You just have to have really good aim
iron plume
McCree’s definitely the closest
worthy rose
Ashe minus Bob would work
silver garnet
Ashe too
iron plume
most of his abilities come down to shooting really well
peak escarp
I've seen a couple different people attempt to make Mei's gun, with some success
silver garnet
Baptiste maybe ? No immortality field
sick siren
Eventually ASHE could be pretty plausible (giving striding advantages in robotics)
iron plume
Pretty sure all healers are out
young knoll
uh, the healing grenades for baptiste are unlikely
iron plume
at least canon healers
sick siren
Biotic tech could eventually become a thing
iron plume
Roadhog is plausible depending on how much you want to stretch his healing
worthy rose
Junkrat is plausible
young knoll
well, Roadhog can also drag people insane distances with little leverage
iron plume
eventually, yes
young knoll
and Junkrat is immune to his own explosions
silver garnet
Soldier 76
sick siren
OMG
iron plume
but your question is who’s most likely
and most non-healers are way more likely than most healers
sick siren
Solider 76 is basically real anyway
iron plume
Biotic field, plus his own regeneration
sick siren
I'm hoping biotic tech become a reality so I can become Moira (lmao)
peak escarp
McCree is just an expert gunslinger with a robotic arm (we already have those, kinda) and a high-powered revolver (we also have those)
peak escarp
flashbangs exist too
sick siren
Do we think biotic tech could ever be released to the public tho
silver garnet
Fully charged noon is too strong
young knoll
he is immune to his own flashbang
peak escarp
his ult is just him aiming carefully
worthy rose
His ult is just him shooting his best I thought?
young knoll
is what I meant
sick siren
Do we think biotic tech could ever be released to the public tho
peak escarp
realistically he'd be affected by his own flashbang
but for gameplay, that would suck
young knoll
exactly
worthy rose
We dont know yet Jantasy
young knoll
do you mean the characters based off the game, or the lore?
sick siren
Biotic healing tech? Defintely.
Biotic damaging tech? Definite grey arwa
silver garnet
Bastion is possible
worthy rose
I mean realistically most heroes would break their legs jumping off buildings like they do in game, but we dont have that gameplay wise
young knoll
true, so that is why I was asking
young knoll
so do you mean game or lore
peak escarp
her heels aren't that bad
young knoll
the lava shooting is unlikely
sick siren
Unless he just had an area to brew a pot of molten iron
Which would pretty much be a drawn out kill irl
peak escarp
that's not really something that's feasible to do
sharp valve
Does anyone know what happened to mccrees arm?
sharp valve
Ashe may know
peak escarp
not likely
sharp valve
Why
They spent a lot of time together
If not her then reaper,genji or moira dies
Does
peak escarp
possibly
we don't know
"that's a story for another time"
(personally I'm hoping for a short story or novel)
young knoll
or maybe some stuff in Overwatch 2?
sharp valve
Highly doublet that there will be lore missions in over 2
young knoll
do you mean past missions?
because all of the missions are pretty much going to be lore
peak escarp
OW2 is basically the lore expansion
pastel ocean
i hope they meant past missions.. cus...
valid terrace
I meant more like in the game but that’s true
young knoll
ah
well, I doubt we will ever develop a stun grenade that doesn't affect the user without special gear involved
but that is fair
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worthy rose
Recall is my favorite
valid terrace
Yeah they’re just bright no sound protection
Couldn’t remember if he covered his ears so I had to check
peak escarp
he kinda threw it away from him
valid terrace
Yeah
But modern ones use sight and sound disorientation
His are fast detonation sight based
Went off midair even
lament prawn
idk how the real world ones work
but the way it worked in the short seems more realistic than the gameplay version
the way it blows up instantly after throwing and within range of mccree himself is probably more for balancing reasons
not to mention the lack of any blinding effect
valid terrace
Yeah it’s not like they get paralyzed
Or just surprise! shock
That would be funny though
fringe blade
Is Torb the only physically handicapped person in Overwatch?
Who else has physical disabilities
And I don't mean like missing limbs or something
Oh yeaaa, there's Sym
hoary condor
Junkrat
peak escarp
why not including missing limbs?
limpid agate
What physical disability does he have, if its not missing limbs
Oh right.
Wait no what?
@fringe blade What are you talk about, and Sym?
fringe blade
Sym is autistic
limpid agate
That's not a physical disability
limpid agate
Ill make a short list
Missing body parts:
- Ana - Eye
- Doomfist - At least his arm
- Genji - Legs, arm, probably more
- Junkrat - Arm and leg
- McCree - Arm
- Sojourn - Both Arms, probably both legs
- Symmetra - Arm
- Torbjorn - Arm and Eye
Necrotic Limbs:
- Moira - Arm
- Reaper - Whole body
Possibly has a singularity in his skull:
- Sigma
Chronal Disassociation:
- Tracer
Heart Beat Slowed:
- Widowmaker
Potential Dwarfism:
- Torbjorn
fringe blade
Don't forget Torb
peak escarp
probably
limpid agate
Sure.
fringe blade
Or is he just freakishly short?
peak escarp
he does complain about headaches, which are common with some forms of dwarfism
limpid agate
Added Torb's Dwarfism
fringe blade
I think that there is some height, which if you are under, you are classified as someone with dwarfism
peak escarp
4'7" iirc
fringe blade
Torb is also 4'7"
pastel ocean
he has dwarfism
peak escarp
In humans, it is sometimes defined as an adult height of less than 147 centimetres (4 ft 10 in), regardless of sex, although some individuals with dwarfism are slightly taller.
oh
I'm 4'11" 😳
fringe blade
uh oh
young knoll
I know a few people with dwarfism
fringe blade
y'know, in retrospect, torb feels like he is a lot shorter than he actually is
young knoll
they have never mentioned headaches to me before, so that is interesting
yeah, he looks like 3ft or something
peak escarp
like I said, certain kinds of dwarfism
young knoll
you spelled the acronym wrong
valid terrace
For girls it’s a little less than that probably
It’s more impressive for a dude to be that short
peak escarp
iirc some of the launch heroes don't have their heights listed on their reference sheets
young knoll
probably not, I think puberty tends to end around 18 years old
valid terrace
She might be stunted
She and her dad prefer the gamer lifestyle
And all it’s proteins
peak escarp
why would she be stunted?
valid terrace
If she doesn’t eat healthily or get exercise
peak escarp
she looks normal though
peak escarp
also e-sports teams have their players exercise regularly
valid terrace
Was she on an e-sports team?
valid terrace
I always just thought of them as gamer friends
Like teammates but not for money
Don’t know why
peak escarp
based on her character model, she's around 5'0", which is short, but not unusual for an Asian woman
valid terrace
She is wearing heels though
limpid agate
Its why she can have a barefoot skin
valid terrace
I meant with the cruiser skin
peak escarp
the Cruiser skin is also wearing flats
valid terrace
Must be a weird design or something then
valid terrace
Is there a purpose to the random plates on her combat pajamas?
valid terrace
Presumably a magnet lock with the mech
peak escarp
probably places where she connects to her cockpit, maybe for monitoring vitals?
pastel ocean
its probably for the mech
barren musk
junkrat is tall wow
frank moat
😮
worthy rose
what about rein?
worthy rose
he is like 5,3 ...
distant sierra
Never
pliant sparrow
Rein is 7'4
glad anchor
I think Blizz suffer from th 5'11" to 6' issue when it comes to character design
cept Winston
pliant sparrow
Hogs hands are massive 
opal crescent
Why is Roadhog fat?
worthy rose
because he eats
glad anchor
Is Echo an omnic?
neon nova
she a thicc bot
glad anchor
well you're not wrong
neon nova
see? 
glad anchor
so would be omnicc then?
neon nova
she was apparently built to stop the omnic crisis so I guess not, in my opinion
opal crescent
Yeah she was built to stope them and she might be good at it since her fucking hitbox is so small its impossible to hit her
iron plume
It isn’t, but it’s also not a discussion for this channel
Echo isn’t an omnic by the strict definition, because she wasn’t built in an omnium
worthy rose
guys anyone can help me with a lore task ?
lavish elm
What @worthy rose ?
worthy rose
the creators of this server are from ow team , right ? since its the official and all
lavish elm
Dunno
worthy rose
i will dm you .. the convo can't continue here
lavish elm
Ok
iron plume
It's not
This server has some people from the overwatch team occasionally answering questions, mostly to do with the game itself
But no one who runs it is from Blizzard
worthy rose
so the admin has nothing to do with the ow ?
iron plume
not with its development
worthy rose
oh....
worthy rose
So imagine a female hero from Japan . She would be early 20s kinda sort hair ... hanzo and genji are relatives with her since she was in shinada clan, but was not a pure child of her fathers hence she can’t control the dragons , had similar training ( ninja style ) and wants to become an heir but she can’t
Opinions?
shy dove
i think her having some slight control of the dragons would be cool (i.e her being able to like idk shoot lil fire balls or sumn out of a dragon)
grand wedge
I’d say this channel isn’t for fan fiction ? But I hope we’ll have more lore on the Shimada family in the future.
valid terrace
It’s unlikely that the dragons are controlled purely by genetics
Otherwise their ancestors would be able to
It’s much more likely a secret enhancement that only the elite shimadas are given
dim scroll
I think it would be cool if Genji and Hanzo's father (I can't remember his name) had a daughter and both of them became heroes at some point. But that brings up some problems, like how did their father survive, and when was their sister born, etc. I think that we would be more likely to get whomever has been running the clan since Hanzo left, if we get another Japanese in the future.
lavish elm
Sojiro is the fathers name
valid terrace
If they had a sister, she would either need to be a secret from them, or have been banished from the family
Otherwise she surely would have been brought up
dim scroll
If she is around, she likely would have been a secret.
valid terrace
A way they potentially could do it without disrupting the lore would be that she was a failed implementation of the dragon technology and became too dangerous to have around.
And the brothers never knew
Aka she’s older not younger
frosty totem
i just want an Israeli hero
valid terrace
I would rather get some other countries first but that’s another one
pliant sparrow
I doubt we would get another shimada clan member
Someone from a rival clan though
I could see that happening
frosty totem
i dont think we will get another Japanese hero in a while
valid terrace
I agree
pliant sparrow
True
valid terrace
But there’s at least room to work with
pliant sparrow
I would like a spanish or Indonesian character
valid terrace
I want those as well
Spanish I’m not as strong about as Canada, Greece, Iran (Oasis), or Israel
And I know Sojourn fills the Canada slot
pliant sparrow
You ever just forget a countries name
valid terrace
Iceland is also around the same level as Spanish to me
Like what
The African ones?
South Africa is the only large center we haven’t really seen
pliant sparrow
Argentina
valid terrace
Maybe Ethiopia
pliant sparrow
That's it
pliant sparrow
Most southern countries don't have that many heroes
valid terrace
Yeah
frosty totem
i want israel the most but an Italian or Greek character could be interesting
valid terrace
Italian is good too
pliant sparrow
Spaghetti weapon
valid terrace
We’ve only had 2 npc villains from there
pliant sparrow
Morocco maybe
pliant sparrow
So many countries come to mind but I can't decide which I'd prefer to see
worthy rose
Oh my ... seems like my idea really took off , lost some interesting convo here xd
limpid trench
we're getting sojourn right
civic wraith
limpid trench
we should get a native american
frosty totem
i still think an israeli hero is the best option
limpid trench
I agree, but do you have a specific reason why?
frosty totem
i live in israel
limpid trench
OH same kinda
frosty totem
explain
limpid trench
I live in canada, but we're jews; and also I came here for ten weeks in the middle of school since we come so often, and now I can't leave
soooooooooo ya
frosty totem
where is the school?
limpid trench
where are you?
frosty totem
jerusalem
worthy rose
So boring....
verbal berry
Why is widow maker blue
worthy rose
Low blood pressure
verbal berry
Oh
worthy rose
Heart beats less than normal
verbal berry
Why is genji cyborgs
worthy rose
Cause he can 1-0
worthy rose
Hanzo almost killed him
worthy rose
Well ... his looks is something people notice
verbal berry
Oh
worthy rose
Like ugly people... first you speak with them and then find what they excel at
verbal berry
Oh nice expample
worthy rose
Sorry to hear . You probably aren’t as bad you think 🙂
worthy rose
Your welcome 🙂 . You seem like a nice person
worthy rose
I know 😎
verbal berry
Lol
valid terrace
Pharah is half Native American
And there’s only 2 confirmed religions of characters afaik
Plus celebrating Christmas
Soldier is Christian
Reaper is Atheist
junior aspen
valid terrace
The Lindholms and Tracer celebrate Christmas
That’s what I recall off the top of my head
junior aspen
junior aspen
valid terrace
Zen obviously has Shambali
iron plume
what the hell are you talking about
junior aspen
pliant sparrow
Dude don't try to start a debate about that here
lavish elm
I want to throw myself off a bridge
First that crap this morning about contacting blizzard to change lore, now this lol
worthy rose
I didn’t try to start something... just stated a fact
pliant sparrow
That, my friend, is trying to start something
lavish elm
This is why people hate my religion
worthy rose
You Christian ? Good for you
lavish elm
It’s people like you who make not want to be one.
pliant sparrow
Stop
worthy rose
People like me ? The cute ones ?
pliant sparrow
If you want to discuss this move it to general
iron plume
or, preferably, don't at all
worthy rose
Not a big debate fan lol?
iron plume
not if that's what you call a debate
worthy rose
Oh I saw it ... be gentle is soft topics like this
pliant sparrow
It's easy for people to get heated at the slightest of notions 
limpid trench
uh huh
lavish elm
Sorry about that.
worthy rose
True ... some people are such crybabies
limpid trench
Hey
iron plume
"slightest of notions" being a statement that people who don't follow your religion are stupid?
limpid trench
@everyone show respect, and respect you shall recieve
worthy rose
@iron plume didn’t say that ...
iron plume
uh huh
worthy rose
I said soldier was smart . For you is he a stupid character?
limpid trench
the guy was nine when he came up with him I think
lavish elm
Yes but you were calling him smart for following a religion, and another character not. Religion does not correspond with intelligence.
limpid trench
Wait What?
peak escarp
celebrating Christmas isn't really an indication of someone's religion
limpid trench
Ya Have you seen japan
worthy rose
I believe soldier is a man of value
limpid trench
Less than one percent are christian yet it is one of the most festive countries in the world
peak escarp
Christmas has become a secular holiday
pliant sparrow
^
limpid trench
Exactly
valid terrace
That’s why I put them as separate
It does make them more likely to be Christian but isn’t a solid indicator
It just means they aren’t celebrating Chanukah or something
limpid trench
True
pastel ocean
@peak escarp kind of a shitpost but you were right about the mercy skin and im glad
grand bluff
Let's keep this channel serious and non-shitposty 
peak escarp
it would have been weird to give her a skin based on a 16th C. soldier
pastel ocean
also im non-christian and celebrate christmas
and did you say reaper is an atheist because of the way he is or because-
pastel ocean
i thought that was for SO
pastel ocean
i cant read that at all
peak escarp
the religion line starts with a C and ends with a C
pastel ocean
christianc
peak escarp
catholic
pliant sparrow
So reaper could be anything from atheist to agnostic?
peak escarp
or he has a religion and chose not to list it
peak escarp
religion on dog tags is there so they know how the soldier wished to be buried
and/or what observances should be made for them
worthy rose
guys do you believe blizzard would be interested in crossovers ?
limpid agate
They already have done crossovers
Warcraft/Starcraft/Diablo skins and sprays and icons
And the Lego Skin and Sprays/Icons
limpid agate
And the Lego Skin and Sprays/Icons
limpid agate
What
worthy rose
a skin for mcree ... from breaking bad
limpid agate
No.
worthy rose
imagine the heinserberg shooting the enemy mercy ..
worthy rose
because everything in ow is lore related ?
peak escarp
if they were going to do crossover skins, they'd pick characters that have something in common with the hero
worthy rose
they both shoot things .. they look western
grand wedge
because everything in ow is lore related ?
@worthy rose Because here isn't general discussion, but the lore channel where we discuss lore
Also, Overwatch isn't Fortnite
worthy rose
thx god ... fortnite sucks ... and that's the truth 🙂
it is just ... two things you love merge , amazing
limpid agate
Heinsenberg and McCree have nothing in common besides being Southerners.
One is a methodical drug lord, the other is a cowboy vigilante.
If you were to get a McCree crossover with some real character, it would be someone related to him
Examples: Clint Eastwood, John Marston, Hol Horse
Or you could go outside that for something else seemingly related visually.
Either way
Its not lore
peak escarp
he does have quite a few literary skins, so I've been hoping for a Musketeer themed skin
limpid agate
Im hoping Masked Man is also a black outfit, like Zorro or Dread Pirate Roberts
Probably Zorro
Same hat
peak escarp
that would suit him
worthy rose
Your imagination is so boring ...
lavish elm
@worthy rose this is for lore, not fan fiction
pastel ocean
zzz
worthy rose
Dis chat ded
peak escarp
you can discuss something at any time
but this channel is usually quiet, since it isn't a social channel
worthy rose
Why you blocked me ? That’s a nice topic
peak escarp
I didn't block anyone
valid terrace
Disobeying Rule 2 is a good reason, but that’s not lore related
worthy rose
Check out your block list ...
peak escarp
I only have one person on my block list and it's not you
I have it set so only friends can message me, so I don't get random messages from annoying people
worthy rose
Oh .. that explains it 😅
peak escarp
and again, this is the lore channel, not a social channel
worthy rose
Lore is created by social interaction 😎
valid terrace
It’s actually created by official Overwatch content and is deciphered here
We don’t make the lore
dim scroll
Lore is whatever is decided by the story group.
worthy rose
Go talk in #general-discussion if you want to chat my dude
That’s one is boring ... here people are more fun
Also I like talking about lore
silver garnet
Reaper’s body is like that because of Mercy’s resurrection interfering with Moira’s experiment? Or was it just the experiment itself gone wrong ?
valid terrace
Mercy never resurrected Reaper
Also her Rez doesn’t bring back the dead
His condition is a mix of SEP side effects and Moira’s experiments
peak escarp
it's a combination of his genetic conditioning from the SEP and the experiments Moira did on him
valid terrace
Possibly also an explosion
peak escarp
also that
frosty shell
Wouldn't McCree have more in common with Jesse Pinkman due to sharing the same first name?
"It's high noon b**ch'
silver garnet
Ahh I see, I thought she attempted to res him after the explosion though?
jaunty veldt
limpid agate
!!shitposting @jaunty veldt
twilit nacelleBOT
@jaunty veldt Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
limpid agate
Reaper’s body is like that because of Mercy’s resurrection interfering with Moira’s experiment? Or was it just the experiment itself gone wrong ?
@silver garnet People already answered it, but Im gonna answer it again for good measure
Because its a misconception that keeps popping up
Mercy had absolutely nothing to do with Reaper.
And she can't bring back the dead.
Reaper's condition is completely unrelated to Mercy.
It was mostly Moira's doing.
He also had his physiology altered by the Soldier Enhancement Program ~30 years ago alongside Soldier 76.
pliant sparrow
I wonder if there were long term side effects to the program
limpid agate
Jack doesn't seem to be showing any
peak escarp
the SEP conditioning could have exacerbated a genetic condition he already had
or maybe Reyes and Jack had different enhancements
hollow tree
it's possible that they all get the same enhancements, but yield different results according to their genetics
pliant sparrow
That's plausible
white walrus
Ok hear me out, do we really know what gender Hammond is
limpid agate
Yes.
magic jolt
i bet on male
hoary condor
Oh ok
peak escarp
if you watch her hands when you use the ability, you can see her rapidly pressing the buttons
pliant sparrow
I'd assume it's at least somewhere automated for seriously concentrated fire or high speed bullets
pastel ocean
once you know its her shooting the bullets down manually
it makes her even more badass