it would be like an extrovert making one of those "I've been training for this my whole life!" jokes about social distancing
#lore-discussion
placid fulcrum
the joke is funny only when an introvert says this, because there is a grain of truth to it - an introvert's lifestyle does indeed include an element of social distancing
the same joke made by an extrovert is simply confusing, because it's not actually referencing anything revelant to the punchline
so the "Watching Winston payed off." joke is only funny if she did indeed witness winston fight at some point in the past.
frosty shell
she could've watched winston after getting out
placid fulcrum
indeed. but it's a weird choice to use him as a reference, when she presumably watched other strike team memebrs fight for much longer than the 5 seconds she saw winston in the cinematic
so although it's techically possible, I'm inclined to read the line as an implication that they've fought alongside each other in the past
lament prawn
i disagree, considering the lines are "what ifs", this is a "what if she saw winston fight and learned her melee moves from that"
she could have seen him canonically, not trying to argue that, im saying the line would still work regardless considering it doesnt have to be canon
placid fulcrum
that makes little sense
because the "what-ifs" have to be grounded in reality
reinhardt's line is a what-if he and reaper really did meet they way we see them meet in the game. it's not a "what if reinhard and doomfist were schoolfreinds in an alternate dimension"
frosty shell
but reinhardt wouldn't know reaper is reyes
placid fulcrum
what makes you think so? he's known the man for a very, very long time
frosty shell
chu didn't say so
placid fulcrum
chu didn't say a lot of things
iron plume
He mentioned that McCree would know if he met
frosty shell
yes
iron plume
but didn't bring up anyone else when asked "who knows"
frosty shell
I think he specifically mentioned the traitor thing was bending the canon a little
iron plume
yep
placid fulcrum
if someone says "apples are fruits" that isn't an implication that oranges aren't fruits
lament prawn
yeah and the echo winston thing isnt nearly as complex as that, its just "what if she learned her melee moves from winston" - its just a crack at her adaptive technology and learning tricks instantly just by watching others
frosty shell
Like, I'm pretty sure the "Gerard was a fool" line was before Ana was confirmed to know who Widow was
though she would recognize her so that's a bad example
iron plume
if someone is asked to list fruits and doesn't list cucumbers
etc etc it's a bad analogy
iron plume
he was asked to list people who know
placid fulcrum
who know already
iron plume
just
placid fulcrum
msot people think reyes is dead. reinhardt has never met reaper in canon
you guys are just determined to nitpick anything
placid fulcrum
of course it doens't. because the two have never met
ana didn't know soldier is jack and reaper is reyes until she met them in the comic. even though rumours of reaper's activities is dating back 20 years
she had to meet reaper in person in roder to recognize him
placid fulcrum
also notice that in this tweet, Chu said nothing about McCree being able to recognize him
even though someone here mentioned once that he said in another tweet, that mccree would recognize him if they met
frosty shell
he did say that later
placid fulcrum
so the tweet in your screenshot isn't meant to be a full list of characters able to recognize him, he just gave some examples to illustrate his point
frosty shell
yeah can't deny
echo also could've been watching winston's fights while locked down
she might not've been turned off until OW was shut down
placid fulcrum
ngl, this thought did occurred to me when jeff used the word "quarantine"
I thought that maybe she was confined to the lab and not allowed to go out
but that raises the question of where did mccree get her activation chip from. why wasn't it transported on the train with her?
I thought he stole it from the OW headquarters on the day he left
but she'd have to have been shut down by then
grand wedge
@placid fulcrum
so that's a confirmation that she was on active duty at the same time when winston was - somewhere between uprising and storm rising
@placid fulcrum but you exclude the possibility that she is joining Winston NOW - for OW2. She fought in Paris and will keep fighting after joining them and watch them fight. Those lines can be along the one that will be canon but are not canon yet.
frosty shell
^ exactly
valid terrace
McCree also talks about Winston in Reunion and it seems like she already knows him
Whether in person or not isn’t clear but she was at least operating when Winston joined
peak escarp
she knows him well enough to know that when McCree says monkey, he means Winston (and that Winston doesn't like being called a monkey)
grand wedge
What I meant is that she knew him but did she fight alongside him? We can’t know because of this one kill voiceline
frosty shell
she could've known Winston from his time as a scientist
grand wedge
So the window of him going on the field with Echo pre fall is really small ( if it exist at all)
thorn ibex
When did Liao die?
peak escarp
we don't know exactly
frosty shell
we have no date
only after McCree joined Overwatch, which was pretty early on
and after the Shambali were founded
valid terrace
They might not have been founded at that time
But the Omnics that are now monks had already been born at that point
And were searching for meaning
peak escarp
she mentions the Shambali in the first teaser
grand wedge
We really need Zen lore 😩
placid fulcrum
storm rising can't be Winston's first mission
on this same mission tracer asks him how he's getting used to sojourn being their new leader rather than reinhardt
this line wouldn't make sense unless he's already been on at least one missions under reinhardt's command
"Tracer: What do you think of Sojourn? Change of pace from Reinhardt, isn't she?
Winston: I feel a little nervous around her, like she might do something terrible to me if I let her down."
peak escarp
I don't know then
placid fulcrum
could be his second, or third mission. he'd be still inexperienced enough to feel nervous about it then
I iamgine they didn't have a mission every single day
I'm not sure what you mean by this
limpid agate
Tracer: I've heard Commander Morrison has been under pressure to disband this strike team.
Winston: But we're only just getting started.
Tracer: You look nervous, Winston.
Winston: I'm still getting used to this. Getting out of the lab... Being an agent in the field...
Tracer: You're doing just fine. Why, my first mission, I threw up on the train heading into the city!
Tracer: What do you think of Sojourn? Change of pace from Reinhardt, isn't she?
Winston: I feel a little nervous around her, like she might do something terrible to me if I let her down.
Are the three relevant lines
First suggests this is one of the Strike Team's first missions.
Second suggests its one of Winston's first missions. Maybe not the first, but close to it.
Third suggests that he has done something with Reinhardt at least once.
So it might be his second or third mission
timid eagle
That bit always confused me.
We are unsure what happened to Reinhardt that forced him to be benched.
limpid agate
That's a mystery. Sombra suggests there is a hidden reason for it that Rein is ashamed of
hot kite
in ow2 trailer sojourn looks like she has a flame thrower
stuck basin
how strong would Young Rein be compared to current 61 year old Rein? Stats Wise, would he have shorter cooldowns? or more damage? im so curios on how strong Rein was in his prime
timid eagle
@stuck basin Regardless, he has a hell of a physique for a 60-something year old.
Like, the dude is not only built like a brickhouse, but is massively tall.
peak escarp
he's not 60+, but this guy is 7'2" and beefy
imagine that's what young Reinhardt might have been like
and it's not unheard of for people 60+ to still be in incredible shape
peak escarp
well there you go
wide skiff
Guys I have a Question did anyone ever Encounter a ballon during a Petra Deathmatch?
It really confused me
limpid agate
Its in the sky above the cliff
final yarrow
I’m not even gonna lie the lore is so amazing and cool and all but 99% of it doesn’t match to the gameplay
Change my mind
zenith prawn
So is Lucio having a gun canon or not?
Because last I heard is wasn't canon by virtue of not explicitly being canon, but in the OW2 story trailer he has a gun.
winged vector
Also in the trailer Brigitte and rein link there shields
Prob not actually a gameplay thing but it would be an interesting idea if teammates using multiple abilities at once could result in a different stronger ability
frosty shell
Lucio probably does have a gun in canon
given that he stole Vishkar sound tech a gun is definitely possible
limpid agate
He does have it
We have seen it in the OW2 story
Its a canonical weapon that he uses.
frosty shell
yeah it's canon since OW2 is canon
well, not the cutscene at the end of the Lucio mission
peak escarp
a lot of heroes seem younger than they are
cerulean karma
I always thought Mei was in her Twenties
What would have been interesting is if you could age during Cryostasis, so she would be in her late twenties, but still have the mentality of a teen
Her outlook just seems so carefree, like she's still a kid
peak escarp
she's just optimistic in a game full of pessimists
cerulean karma
Which is nice to see
timid eagle
Yep, Mei is a sweet little muffin. Though her optimism can waver when she mentions how much as changed since she was frozen.
zenith prawn
Is there any elaboration on Mei's voyage-of-the-James-Caird-esque arctic escape?
zenith prawn
I mean Scott Base is 3km away from McMurdo. That's pretty walkable.
But if you're at like, Amundsen-Scott, then you're kinda screwed.
peak escarp
you can kinda see the position of Ecopoint: Antarctica at the bottom of Winston's map
you can kinda see an inlet there, that corresponds with the location of Davis Station
so Ecopoint Antarctica is probably near Casey Station
peak escarp
and Casey Station has an airfield, so it's easy enough to get back to civilization
zenith prawn
Casey is about 1000km away from Davis
A guy trekked across the entire continent solo at one point, but he was an endurance athlete.
Stranger things have happened though.
Just don't sign me up for the next Antarctic ultramarathon.
peak escarp
I'm saying the Ecopoint was probably near Casey, so it wouldn't be that much of a trek
zenith prawn
Oh, so it was close to an established station, which makes more sense.
I thought you were saying it is Casey, which, even so wouldn't make sense, since Mirny Station is closer.
peak escarp
those were just the biggest ones that showed up on google maps
also ones with permanent residents
a lot of bases are only staffed seasonally
zenith prawn
That's true.
Either way maybe it was an OW annex to Casey or something, a few km away.
peak escarp
probably not too close, otherwise they have no excuse for not checking in on them
but close enough that Mei felt like she could hike there
zenith prawn
I mean if people knew about it, then I don't think there's really an excuse for not checking on it either way.
Near or far.
peak escarp
there was a massive polar storm to deal with
zenith prawn
Polar storms end eventually.
Maybe no one knew about it.
As in, OW kept it secret for some reason.
peak escarp
maybe they did check on the base, but didn't know about the cryochambers and assumed the base was abandoned?
zenith prawn
Maybe with satellites, like The Martian, only less competent.
Or the cryo was a secret project or something.
Honestly the first time I saw the Mei cinematic, I was hoping she'd pull some Flight of the Phoenix stuff with the helo.
peak escarp
why?
you shouldn't trust youtubers
the plan was just to kidnap Antonio
Reyes went off script by killing him
she couldn't have predicted that
but Antonio did seem very relaxed about the whole thing, like he knew they were just there to kidnap him
she couldn't have called it in
because we saw her in the cutscene
I feel like that would be an important thing to show the audience
I agree that she was probably working both sides at that point (or at least supplying Talon with tech, considering that the Enforcers, Snipers, Assassins and Heavies all had genetic modifications)
but I don't think she was wearing a wire or called it in
Blackwatch fought their way in - Talon already knew they were there
and Reyes blew Antonio out a window
notice her expression right after Reyes shoots Antonio
zenith prawn
Is the Talon assassin’s ability to teleport canon? For some reason, I got the impression that Tracer was the only one who was supposed to be able to do that.
worthy rose
Nah, that's probably gameplay for "ridiculously mobile + sneaky, but we can't actually do that properly without something breaking"
iron plume
Tracer doesn't "teleport" teleport, she speeds up in time while keeping momentum
Symm teleports
But re: assassin, I think Doomedperson is right, it's gameplay language
hasty surge
How does tracer's teleport work cannon-ly then?
iron plume
She speeds up her own timeline
So she moves in a direction and then does X seconds worth of movement in a fraction of that to everyone else
idk how the physics work out with her going up but that's the idea
iron plume
well, yeah
having time manipulation in the first place does that
native apex
foggy notch
Any idea why roadhog likes pigs so much?
peak escarp
probably thinks they're cute
valid terrace
He was a farmer, do we know what he farmed?
peak escarp
he was a solar farmer, I think
valid terrace
Also wild hogs are a common pest in Australia I think, and rats are across the world so they might just be a play off of that
They’re almost like Florida gators to the locals there albeit more destructive
pliant sparrow
Could just be an identity he adopted after the omnium explosion
Doesn't mean he likes pigs
Unless he said that in the lore?
neat wadi
Probably the Omnium Radiation messed up his brain, causing him to act like a pig?
peak escarp
he doesn't act like a pig
valid terrace
Maybe he named himself after the Hogdrogen that he now needs
frosty shell
also, maybe he is named for hogging the road
and after he got that nickname, he took it in stride
He also was probably compared to a pig for being fat, assuming he'd already gotten fat by that time
neat wadi
What if Jamison was fat, and Mako was skinny?
placid fulcrum
His ALF skin has a little pig symbol, so he was using it even before the radiation
frosty shell
He may have been fat before the meltdown (though probably not as fat as he is today)
restive thorn
Pig symbol on road hogs chest
pliant sparrow
Not sure on that
He could easily have been the same weight
I think most of the 'fat' on hog is muscle
valid terrace
It’s likely just a biker name as he has a bike and a pig tattoo with motor decals
tranquil cypress
yes as he is in fact a biker man
there is canon art of him with jamison in a sidecar
riding his put put machine
peak escarp
and he's got that motorcycle in his house
tranquil cypress
I think the nickname came about also because is is a girthy lad, and he is portrayed through art as almost being a greasy oily guy
I imagine a hug from Mako would not be pleasent
pliant sparrow
He could've been a mechanic
analog flint
From what I remember Michael Chu said that if he had a pet, it would be a kunekune which is an NZ breed of pig.
worthy rose
why is roadhog obsessed with the onion thing
worthy rose
why is roadhog with junkrat
peak escarp
because Junkrat promised him a 50% cut of his treasure
and Junkrat needed a bodyguard
zinc moth
wait, forgive me cuz im not good with the whole lore yet but are roadhog and junkrat with Talon or not?
zinc moth
oh
valid terrace
Well, ex-junkers I guess?
zinc moth
but maybe later they would join or smt right?
peak escarp
I don't think so
zinc moth
because isn't talon recruiting?
peak escarp
they don't seem like the type who would follow orders
they like doing things their own way
zinc moth
oh
peak escarp
also they hate omnics, and Talon is working with Null Sector to start a war
zinc moth
true
This is random but I have a theory....you know when baptise got realised and there was a teaser about a tank being released? it was like a large dude....I think he might be this
peak escarp
his name is Mauga
zinc moth
i cant get the picture in
peak escarp
he was supposed to be hero 31, but the devs didn't think the kit they made suited him, so they made Sigma instead and shelved Mauga
we might see Mauga added in OW2
zinc moth
feral ferry
Sorry, can anybody help me with one question? Which channel should I visit if I'm a beginner player? I have experience in such games, so I won’t be a big burden 🙂
limpid agate
Not this one
peak escarp
@feral ferry try #overwatch
zinc moth
maybe gameplay advice?
peak escarp
@zinc moth
this is Mauga, the guy from Baptiste's short story
the omnic from Storm Rising is someone else
hasty surge
Btw was sigma teased anywhere before he was released?
atomic schooner
nope
atomic schooner
arguably one of the best introduced heros though
atomic schooner
unique kit, design, backstory
high skill cap, high risk, high reward
rewards players for thinking outside the box
valid terrace
Oh you mean Doomfist?
atomic schooner
doomfist has been nerfed down to his nutsack, but is still able to be cheesed by low skill players
hes like sigma except the people who play him are toxic af
indigo helm
In canon, did Hammond have any interactions with Roadhog and Junkrat, apart from living in the same general area?
peak escarp
Junkrat is a fan of Wrecking Ball, but doesn't know he's a hamster
errant void
I'm still annoyed that we never got anything from the Omnic talking with Doomfist, I forget what event it was in
errant void
I hope so, he seemed super interesting
Edgier than Reaper
And it would make sense if Talon's plan is to instigate an Omnic uprising
I just want more Talon 😂
limpid agate
it would make sense if Talon's plan is to instigate an Omnic uprising
That is exactly Doomfist's goal.
Or at least
Step 1
Step 1 is start a war between Omnics and Humans.
Which would then be the catalyst towards his real goal, of having humanity evolve through perseverance.
zinc moth
But overwatch knows about Talon's new "friend" the omnic dude, I have the feeling that overwatch might not be able to win this fight the first time
peak escarp
Overwatch doesn't know about him
valid terrace
Losing the first time is a common trope in game campaigns like this one
It helps to cement progression in skill in games where you get stronger
limpid agate
Losing the first time is a common trope in game campaigns like this one
Alive: http://bit.ly/1PSJV5x
Already happened. Same with Winston. He nearly lost, but gloating ex machina saved him.
Which is why Overwatch assembled
karmic kettle
hello
dawn sphinx
kinda purple tho
worthy rose
Not most of it, yet.
Torbjorn's adopted him, but the team hasn't yet gone to him for anything as far as we know.
But there's going to be a Gothenburg map in OW2 IIRC, so Torb's likely going to be involved in some capacity, and Bastion will probably get introduced if not join up.
thorn ibex
Do you think the Omnics managed to capture entire countries during the Crisis?
worthy rose
Probably the smaller ones. It would be unlikely that they were a major threat without being in position to overwhelm some smaller, unprepared country.
worthy rose
Did Moira make reaper what he is today or did Mercy
iron plume
It's at least partially Moira
with the rest being the SEP and damage from the explosion
Mercy doesn't have anything to do with it
worthy rose
how is reaper able to wraith form
iron plume
that would be one of moira's "gifts"
zinc moth
wait, @peak escarp overwatch does know about the guy at the end of storm rissing becuase didn't mercy say they want an introduction which most likley means they know about him
placid fulcrum
they most likely meant an introducetion to Doomfist
considering that, chronologically, the next short is doomfist origin short, in which he's being arrested by overwatch
grand wedge
@zinc moth
In an attempt to save his metallic skin, Maximilien struck a deal with the four agents, agreeing to “introduce” them to Doomfist by providing them with intel on his upcoming travel plans . . . as long as they agreed to not divulge where they acquired the information.
Meanwhile, Doomfist extended Talon’s assistance to another omnic, whose identity yet remains unknown. . .
from this article : https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23369557
hasty surge
But we don't know what he was doing in Singapore
And the short wasn't in Singapore
(I meant doomfist meeting null sector champ)
probably shouldn't use short but after credit clip?
grand wedge
Doomfist is arrested in Singapore - in his origin Story - three weeks after Max was arrested
placid fulcrum
hm, interesting
liao's singaporean
I wonder if her base was in singapore too
perhaps doomfist was there, because he led the attack on liao's base?
golden abyss
shell sinew
how do you think it took so long to find echoe's pod
placid fulcrum
firstly mccree had to find someone who could identify where she was - sombra
then they had to figure out when she'd be transported, since it's likely that she was being kept under guard at the militray bases
but not during transport
grand wedge
@shell sinew her pod was given to the us military to keep it after OW was disband
So good luck enter in one military base when you’re alone. The pod needed to be moved - then McCree needed to tip Ashe to blow the train
shell sinew
@grand wedge ah i was still semi confused on that front but what do you think she was doing before she rejoined overwatch
grand wedge
Who ?
shell sinew
echoe
grand wedge
She flew right to Winston I guess.
shell sinew
power nap before i save the world
ocean scaffold
perhaps doomfist was there, because he led the attack on liao's base?
i thought about this too
but Echo's base of operations doesn't check out
placid fulcrum
Jeff said that the Echo project continued for a while after liao's death, so perhaps she was moved from singapore to switzerland? idk, it's unlikely. but I can think of no other plot reason for doom to be in singapore
it wouldn't be the first random location in the canon story though
alpine tulip
iron plume
Not the channel for this
limpid agate
@glad quarry No advertising
grand wedge
I like the singlish voicelines Echo has on the PTR
(is that how you call the Singaporean slang?)
pliant sparrow
Yes
peak escarp
!!loreguide
twilit nacelleBOT
This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL
There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
peak escarp
start with that
austere pelican
@peak escarp ty
peak escarp
if you have any questions or want to know more, the regulars here are all very helpful
austere pelican
Got it
peak escarp
they can leave
but that's their home
Roadhog fought to take his home back from the omnics
to leave would just be admitting defeat
ocean scaffold
Why are they junkers? Can't they just leave?
looks like they don't want to
and what country will accept 2 outlaws?
peak escarp
they're already wanted globally
which place?
Junkertown?
it's in the Australian outback
we don't know exactly where
valid terrace
Junk rat didn’t
ocean scaffold
there's no data
valid terrace
Oh wait you mean actual Omnics
peak escarp
Roadhog was part of the Australian Liberation Front
which was a guerilla force fighting back against the omnics after the Australian government gave a portion of land to them
Junkrat was a child back then, so he wasn't part of it
this was ~20-25 years ago
ocean scaffold
Junkrat was a child back then, so he wasn't part of it
then what treasure Junkrat has? i always thought that he robbed omnium...
valid terrace
Do you mean in the war or reclaiming the Omnium?
Yeah the Omnium is still there
He went down deep inside it somewhere
peak escarp
Junkrat's treasure is something he found in the omnium, which is what Junkertown was built on top of
valid terrace
Junkertown is built around it
peak escarp
an omnium is a factory that built omnics
lean charm
Oh ok
valid terrace
Or in this case built
peak escarp
the factory itself had a learning AI so it could become more efficient over time
placid fulcrum
echo's cosmetics and voice lines are now available on the ptr
they might give us some lore hints
peak escarp
there aren't really any hints in her cosmetics, just a bunch of memes
placid fulcrum
yeah...
though the fact that the only sprays she has of chaniging into other heroes is rein, winston, genji and doomfist specifically could hint that those were her canon ults. changes aren't particularly high though
peak escarp
I think it's more notable that the sprays show her imitating them, not actually transforming into them
limpid agate
Sprays are not canon.
The Doomfist one should be the best point for that
Some can be things that reflect canon
Some are just memes
Some are just cool things
placid fulcrum
sure, but like you said, some reflect canon. question is only which ones and in what way
her voice lines are kinda generic. they don't reveal much about her personality. but then again, msot heroes' voice lines are like this
I wasn't able to trigger any hero interactions in custom games, so I think they're still not in the game
peak escarp
she does at least have a bit of Singlish in her voice lines
people will be happy about that
placid fulcrum
yup, it's a nice touch
high vault
is widowmakers skin blue or purple?
errant void
It will be interesting to see how Echo plays into the lore of Overwatch 2
I'm assuming we're going to get hit with massive amounts of lore leading to the release of it
peak escarp
I hope so
cunning vector
sprays can reveal some things tho
Like the Lieutenant Augustin spray for baptiste
peak escarp
we saw his Talon appearance in his origin story
the spray didn't tell us anything new
cunning vector
his name
peak escarp
his name was in his bio page
cunning vector
Welp, i didn't notice that
valid terrace
Brig’s cat
peak escarp
the cat that we saw in her origin trailer?
valid terrace
Guess I’ll have to rewatch it
worthy rose
Who is that unknown guy in the overwatch founders pic
I heard people say he is Liao but now we know he isn't.
limpid agate
I heard people say he is Liao but now we know he isn't.
They were wrong
We knew he wasn't Liao for years
worthy rose
Oh
high vault
ok ive decided to go with thanos rules for widow, one movie shes blue the other shes purple but in the end she does nothing for 12 years
limpid agate
!!shitposting
twilit nacelleBOT
Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
high vault
your welcome 🙂
limpid agate
Consider this your final warning.
alpine lark
I want to know what sort of lore makes all the characters put on googly eyes every april 1st
thats the big question that needs answering
limpid agate
Its not lore
normal quail
Need info on MAD MAX (the omnic)
peak escarp
you mean Maximilien?
peak escarp
limpid agate
@alpine lark Final warning
alpine lark
imagine the power people like weird hair omnic would have if they had googly eyes
limpid agate
Moving swiftly onwards.
normal quail
Thank you @peak escarp
hasty surge
Would we get any lore soon
hasty surge
Have they gave up on cinematics?
peak escarp
no? why would you think that
we don't get cinematics very often - usually only 2 per year
hasty surge
And what's the last one zero hour?
peak escarp
yep
hasty surge
We only got zero hour last year right?
peak escarp
yeah, they decided to skip Gamescom because they didn't have anything to show
maybe getting OW2 to a sharable state took longer than they expected
peak escarp
maybe, depends what appearances Blizzard decides to make
the way things are going, Gamescom might not even happen this year
hasty surge
Virtual Gamescom probably
vivid python
I'm assuming it'll be little to no lore until Overwatch 2 comes out. Overwatch 2 will likely be the place for lore updates with the PvE mode and they'll happen more frequently or on a larger scale than what we're getting now. But, that's my guesses without having looked at what's happened in the past few months.
worthy rose
I was just examining Blackwatch Genji skin when I looked at his thin-ass knees. Did he somehow lost his legs in a sword fight with Hanzo?
I think his dialogue with Moira in Retribution might also be evidence that he indeed lost his legs. "I just want to walk again."
vivid python
I think he did, yeah.
It's not really covered anywhere what the extent of his injuries were, but I assume that he was cleaved in half from his shoulder down to his opposing hip
Based on the Blackwatch skin
iron plume
Genji likely did but in general it's not a good idea to use skin models as the base for those assumptions
that's how you get "pharah is totally a quadruple amputee"
vivid python
Fair point
pliant sparrow
Hanzo has notably thin ankles but hasn't lost any limbs
It's mostly down to character design
vivid python
The wounds had to be severe enough for Hanzo to think that he killed Genji though
pliant sparrow
I think he definitely suffered spinal damage
Quite possibly losing his legs and arm
But theres likely more left than there appears to be
vivid python
I know it'll likely never happen, but I'd love a comic series about it in depth or a short.
So many stories from so many characters to tell.
vivid python
I tend to like the darker stories
pliant sparrow
It doesn't really suit most of the stories we've been given so far
Although it could be released in a short story
vivid python
It doesn't fit into the progression of the overarching story though, so I think it's safe to say it'll likely never be made
The shorts started with a little bit of character background, but recently they're all about building up to the reformation of OW
vivid python
I liked that one a lot
pliant sparrow
Yeah
vivid python
No, that was the most recent
I don't see us getting any more shorts until Overwatch 2
Maybe one about Echo, but they did that story background one on her, so it's doubtful
vivid python
Yeah, that's what I was insinuating, but I didn't portray it very well
Do you guys think we'll see multiple new characters at launch?
pliant sparrow
Yes
vivid python
Sojourn is one of the ones I can think of
Maybe the unknown character at the end of the last story event
vivid python
I can see them adding a fourth omnic
pliant sparrow
I think theres a possibility for someone like Sanjay or Fasal
vivid python
Who's Mauga, I missed that one.
pliant sparrow
I think theres a command for that but I've forgotten it
vivid python
Think they'll revisit the unknown characters from the early short where Winston initiates the Overwatch reformation sequence?
Or you think they were just filler characters for that scene
I'm thinking the latter honestly
cosmic crest
How exactly is Neo Overwatch operating? Aren't they technically a vigilante group? How have they not been arrested?
grand wedge
We don’t know yet
But yes they broke the Petras Act so they are outlaws technically.
spiral yarrow
If they would get arrested is it for breaking the petra’s act or just murder and stuff cause they all very likely did kill someone talon or not
grand wedge
But with a full war against omnics ? We’ll see how the politicians and the public will react to that ( hopefully)
Not since the first OW was disbanded, we didn’t see them killing anyone - except extremists robots in Zero Hour.
grand wedge
Yes and that’s why we are waiting OW2 with the pve to explain a bit more everything
grand wedge
( still hoping some short stories in between events)
spiral yarrow
Because it was somewhere mid 2020
Short stories are hard to make and cost alot though
grand wedge
It may - since they are working from home....
spiral yarrow
Yeah exactly
grand wedge
It’s probably already written
spiral yarrow
I hope so
grand wedge
If they have any planned for this year
livid elbow
hopefully with the virus outbreak, this will give the creators time to make any edits and do QAs to make sure it runs properly
pliant sparrow
Ohhh his eyes changed?
grand wedge
Not sure about the eyes because Hanzo recognized him because of it
But on the Blackwatch skin the eyes are red yeah...
dim scroll
He might have fancy contacts that give him a HUD to deal with all of his robotic parts.
wise matrix
maybe some tech to boost eyesight
pliant sparrow
Could just be they let him react to and process visual information faster
cosmic crest
I imagined that during Hanzo and Genji's fight there was a fire, hence Genji's face scars.
grand wedge
Electricity can cause severe burns, and you see elicricity with Hanzo's Dragons so I guess it's a possibility?
cunning vector
what i think is
He got scratches from all the fighting
Like maybe his face getting slammed into a wall
worthy rose
Could have been something to do with Winston
peak escarp
Winston wasn't there
pliant sparrow
I think it was likely the dragons
neat wadi
Did Hanzo always use the bow, or was he also a swordmaster? Cause the scratches may have come from another blade, if not the arrow tip. And if Genji's entire lower body is cybernetic, how could an arrow do that much damage?
cosmic crest
I think he had a dragonblade like Genji
but after killing him
he vowed to never use it again
peak escarp
yeah
and it's possible that not all of Genji's amputations were caused by Hanzo
some of them may have been elective amputations during the cyberization process
cyber agility works better with synthetic legs than with flesh
peak escarp
Overwatch had been watching the Shimada clan
they probably had moles there to swoop in and save him
grand wedge
Could Genji havec been the mole?
peak escarp
maybe, but he'd still need someone else there to rescue him
grand wedge
Yeah that's for sure
noble field
What about his lower jaw? Is that still in tact, you think?
pliant sparrow
Chances are yes
cosmic crest
Seriously? I think Doomfist has really weak motivation
limpid agate
!!shitposting @fast brook
twilit nacelleBOT
@fast brook Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
limpid agate
@cosmic crest Elaborate
cosmic crest
Like, he wants to create conflict in the world to make humanity stronger. But... WHY though?
Also, I just think he's kind of a generic bad guy
limpid agate
Because the first Omnic Crisis saw humanity grow stronger, but now it has grown weak again
cosmic crest
I suppose, that's kind of nutty logic though
limpid agate
He is also a warmonger.
Before the crisis, he was a competitive fighter
Then he was banned from fighting because he became cybernetically enhanced
The crisis made him stronger directly
Also apparently, it was one of Talon's original goals. It just matched his, so he pushed it harder than the profits they were chasing before his rule
Talon's belief that humanity would be made stronger through conflict resonated with Ogundimu's personal experiences. Moreover, Talon's power struggles presented a new challenge that allowed him to use his talent in the boardroom along with his cunning as a combatant
cosmic crest
Begs the question, how did Talon come to be in the first place?
limpid agate
We dont know. The earliest mention of them chronologically is
Gerard was the head of anti-Talon operations
frosty shell
I have wondered if maybe Genji got his tongue cut out too
peak escarp
why?
pliant sparrow
It's possible
I think it's unlikely since apparently he can still eat and drink normally
fervent kite
When you say maybe genji has his tongue cut off, is there another character with a tongue cut off?
austere pelican
!help
;help
@peak escarp What was that command to get started on the lore again? ty
peak escarp
!!loreguide
twilit nacelleBOT
This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL
There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
peak escarp
all this is also in the pins on this channel
grand wedge
@cosmic crest Talon was a mercenary group in the begining - kinda private army the government swould hire if they needed
austere pelican
@peak escarp ty
grand wedge
About Talon on Baptiste Q&A :
Talon’s public face, especially the one they’d show to prospective recruits like Baptiste, would be as a well-paying mercenary group that took on security missions that were sanctioned by official organizations or corporations
frosty shell
it was because he can tolerate Mercy's awful coffee, and says ramen isn't the same
even if his tongue didn't get cut off his taste seems to have been impaired
pliant sparrow
frosty shell
fair
winter mirage
Hi everyone! I was just wondering what happened to Dr Winston, the human. Wasn't there signs of him working on the Lijang tower map?
peak escarp
those turned out to be a difference Horizon scientist - Dr. Chao
Dr. Winston is most likely dead
winter mirage
Because of the monkeys breaking out at horizon lunar colony?
peak escarp
yes
it's implied that they ejected him out of an airlock onto the surface of the moon
along with all the other scientists
winter mirage
Oh yeah
winter mirage
I think the others were being tested on
austere pelican
@winter mirage u mean the others were mistreated
winter mirage
And winston was a baby i think
austere pelican
interesting
winter mirage
I think so
peak escarp
Winston was the equivalent of a teenager
winter mirage
oh
peak escarp
you need to be a regular to use the commands
austere pelican
!loreguide
peak escarp
!!loreguide
austere pelican
oh
twilit nacelleBOT
This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL
There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
austere pelican
ty
peak escarp
Winston left the moon around 12 years ago
winter mirage
so junkrat, roadhog, zen, lucio and symettra aren't part of overwatch or talon right?
winter mirage
I'm pretty sure lucios gonna fight with ow in ow2 tho
winter mirage
yeah
peak escarp
(she doesn't know this)
winter mirage
sanjay?
austere pelican
So is genji good or bad, because hes in storm rising and retribution. I understand that blackwatch i not neccessarily against overwatch, but Im just asking.
peak escarp
Blackwatch was part of Overwatch
winter mirage
They were kinda like suicide squad
peak escarp
they do the bad stuff that Overwatch needs - assassinations, kidnapping, espionage
winter mirage
except blackwatch wasn't turned into a debatably horrible movie
errant void
They were a part of Overwatch, just a part that no one officially acknowledged until the incident
austere pelican
Got it, so do the two connect with eachother?
errant void
What do you mean?
winter mirage
and then genji rejoined overwatch i thinl
errant void
Genji has rejoined, as per Overwatch 2
austere pelican
Do blackwatch and overwatch have the same intentions?
austere pelican
Ok, so genji is in both
peak escarp
when Blackwatch got suspended, Genji worked with the main Overwatch team for a while
yes
winter mirage
So we know all of the founders of overwatch except for that one guy right?
errant void
Yes
winter mirage
Cause liao was a founder
peak escarp
we know all the founders
peak escarp
Jack Morrison, Gabriel Reyes, Ana Amari, Mina Liao, Torbjorn Lindholm and Reinhardt Wilhelm
those are the 6 founders
winter mirage
What about the guy with the mowhawk?
peak escarp
he's not a founder
winter mirage
Yeah, the guy on the bottom left
peak escarp
Overwatch was founded during the omnic crisis, which was ~30 years ago
no
Liao is a woman
limpid agate
@errant void
1 - We've known for years that wasn't Liao
2 - Liao is that woman
winter mirage
She made echo
errant void
Yes, I misread, my mistake
peak escarp
the mohawk guy is unknown right now, although some people think he's the guy with a mohawk seen at the Talon council table in Masquerade
winter mirage
ok
peak escarp
yes
errant void
She's coming in Overwatch 2, that was guaranteed.
winter mirage
cool
limpid agate
I still think that the mohawk guy there is this guy
peak escarp
could be
winter mirage
that looks like someone who would join talon
limpid agate
He was always shown to be jacked with augmentations in concept art
winter mirage
Could he be the guy at the end of the storm rising event?
limpid agate
No
errant void
I doubt it
winter mirage
oh
winter mirage
i always thought the guy was just wearing a mask
limpid agate
Its an omnic
winter mirage
makes sense
errant void
I wonder if human consciousnesses integration would be possible, though
errant void
I guess, in theory, if artificial intelligence is advanced enough, something similar to it would be possible
winter mirage
like zen but artificially
peak escarp
according to some press who saw silhouettes of upcoming heroes, there's at least 5 new heroes coming at launch for OW2
winter mirage
i thought it would only be three
doesn't maxamillion have artifficial intellegence?
errant void
All Omnics are artificially intelligent
peak escarp
yes
errant void
Just to varying degrees. Like comparing Max to Bastion
winter mirage
makes sense
limpid agate
I dont understand the question
peak escarp
omnics are just AI in robot bodies
winter mirage
i think if i were to choose the other 4 people for ow2 I would say junker queen and mauga seeing as we need more tanks and maybe add maxamillion as a support
idk who else
maybe dvas friend i guess
limpid agate
Dae-Hyun would be the absolute worst.
Max would be cool if they didn't already show that he can't fight in Storm Rising
I wanted him before
I dont anymore
winter mirage
fair enough
limpid agate
I dont think we will be getting either Mauga or Junkerqueen
The only character I am sure we will get
Is the leader of Null Sector
winter mirage
makes sense
limpid agate
Another point in his favour is
The reporter statement was that they saw 3 girls they didn't recognize
And an omnic warlock or something like that
winter mirage
interesting
limpid agate
A lot of people latched on to the warlock being the short guy with the staff
But he could have meant someone with a hood
Like the leader of Null Sector
Not enough info
winter mirage
so the other people might be like moira where we don't know at all before they were added
limpid agate
We saw Moira and were able to guess her
The unknowns were Ashe, Baptiste, and Sigma
winter mirage
We only got a little bit of hints just before she was relased
limpid agate
We had those hints in Oasis and in Masquerade.
Two seperate hints
But hints nonetheless
And Sigma was supposed to be teased in Baptiste's short story as Mauga
But they changed him from Mauga to Sigma
winter mirage
oh yeah
errant void
It's unfortunate that they haven't done anything Sombra-level when it comes to hero-hints lately
winter mirage
they had his shield just like sigma's right?
limpid agate
Define Sombra level
winter mirage
that reveal was cool
errant void
Sombra was the most interactive hero release we had. Decrypting hidden codes, fake websites, etc
limpid agate
The ARG was very poorly received
winter mirage
i guess its because it fitted the character
limpid agate
People hated it because puzzles would be solved quickly, and then people would be told to wait for the next clue
So they would start making their own clues out of nothing like the skycode
peak escarp
they have given us plenty of potential heroes among the NPCs of Overwatch
they should use some of them before introducing new characters
limpid agate
I'm personally hoping to see Sanjay Korpal and Hamid Faisal
errant void
It would be nice to see someone we already know exists before throwing someone new in the mix
peak escarp
no that's Sven
errant void
An archaeologist at Petra
peak escarp
Hamid Faisal is an archaeologist that Ana knows
errant void
Don't really know anything about him, though
peak escarp
Sam
limpid agate
Sam is a non-combatant
errant void
Also don't know too much about him
winter mirage
i thought he fought in the military or something
winter mirage
oh
errant void
Probably won't play much of a part in the story, honestly, wouldn't make much sense
I hope Pharah and Ana can repair their relationship
winter mirage
you think they'll go into the lore of junker town more?
I heard something about a junkerking
limpid agate
There is no Junkerking
errant void
It's hard to say, for certain, what they'll explore lore-wise. A lot of people want the Junker Queen, but that doesn't mean anything
limpid agate
I think we will get more Junkertown stuff
BUT
Not at OW2 launch
Maybe as an expansion of some sort later down the line
Depends on their business model
winter mirage
Even when hammond got released, they didn't say much about junkertown
Only that he was the scrap champion
errant void
In my personal opinion, I don't think they will explore Junkertown too much
I just don't see it fitting into the lore of Overwatch 2 very much
winter mirage
makes sense
errant void
I could be totally wrong, though 😂
Both the fun part, and not so fun part, of lore speculation
winter mirage
yeah
its wierd how australia seems to be the only country that is talked about when people talk about the omnic invasion
Wasn't russia hit really badly
errant void
In all fairness, it is a nuclear wasteland
winter mirage
right
errant void
From my understanding (feel free to correct me.) Russia already had preexisting issues with Omnics
limpid agate
its wierd how australia seems to be the only country that is talked about when people talk about the omnic invasion
The Australia stuff
Was all post-crisis
It was after they made peace that the Australians in the outback formed the ALF (basically a terrorist organization) and blew up the omnium
errant void
Did a little more reading, it was due to the Omnium in Siberia during the First Omnic Crisis, and they were the first ones to be impacted by the Omnic attacks
I wonder if we'll ever get a definitive reason behind the Omnium's waging war on humanity
winter mirage
It might have something to do with that omnic at the end of the storm rising mission
he might of been abused by humans or something
and now wants to kill a bunch of them
errant void
He's definitely a part of Null Sector, at the very least
Some people have speculated that he is a God program, maybe even Anubis, but that's not possible
@winter mirage https://amp.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/bbcxtr/a_rough_timeline_of_the_history_of_overwatch/ This is a really good read, if you're ever interested in seeing a pretty good timeline of what we know so far
winter mirage
thanks, i really apreciate it
limpid agate
@winter mirage @errant void Don't use that
It has a lot of errors
I found a bunch in the first part about the crisis alone.
errant void
Many of which were corrected in later replies from others in the community
limpid agate
There are more
Not in the replies
Don't use that
Aside from new information that is missing
They didn't correct their mistakes on the entire MEKA discourse
errant void
That was mentioned in a reply
limpid agate
Yeah mine
I guess there isnt anything better
But dont hold what that thread says as gospel
Its old, missing stuff we know now
About Ana, Liao, Sigma, Baptiste, etc.
Mercy
Lots of Mercy stuff
winter mirage
ok
limpid agate
If you have questions, ask here
You can also use the wiki to double check something in that timeline list
!!wiki
twilit nacelleBOT
For more information about the game, please refer to the wiki: https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/
peak escarp
you should always be careful when using posts - check when they were made
we've learned a lot since then
limpid agate
Im glad you recognize they're mostly fake
mighty moss
Someone give me their zoom class, you'll see it in youtube. After giving me your link I'll give you a link to my channel.
wise matrix
@mighty moss I don’t think this is the channel for that
iron plume
it's a city state that's physically located somewhere around Nigeria
shell sinew
what do you think junkrat and roadhog legitimate relationship is is it friends or still employer employee
worthy rose
employer employee
iron plume
we don't know exactly where it is
shell sinew
my theory is they have gotten closer because if you look at the shotgun for roadhog's rudolph skin it has a tag saying from junkrat
worthy rose
i think junkrat sees roadhog as a friend but its not mutual
iron plume
I think it's closer than just for the pay even if hog is annoyed by junkrat
skins aren't really a good source though
shell sinew
whatever just thought it was a cool detail that might hint at it
worthy rose
what are the locations of the omniums
shell sinew
they were all over the world but the one in austrailia was blown up
foggy notch
"youll hook em"
"shut up"
That is enough for me about their relationship
worthy rose
you'll hook em, i'll cook em
iron plume
the known ones are in Australian outback, South China Sea, Asian part of Russia, Nigeria and Detroit in the US
there were likely more
shell sinew
oh cool
i'm a one man apocolypse is a telling line since he in part started the pseudo apocalypse in austrailia
maybe he was involved in the exploding of the omnium
worthy rose
so were junkrat and roadhog from somewhere near alice springs?
iron plume
wasn't one-man at the time but he's the only one we know
we don't know if it's near, since it's
well
the outback
and that's pretty big
but it's one possible option
iron plume
no
the rest of australia is largely fine
iron plume
it's likely not even the whole of outback
just a big area around where the omnium was
cosmic crest
I hope one of the omniums becomes a map
I'm surprised they haven't done that already
They are mentioned frequently
tranquil sun
how to play sigma ?
ocean scaffold
Sigma was normal before he encountered a black hole
worthy rose
and he went all crazy
worthy rose
is overwatch aware of sigmas presence in Talon
grand wedge
he isn't crazy - his body and mind were fractured when facing the black hole
But something went wrong, triggering the brief formation of a black hole. De Kuiper was only exposed to its power for a moment, but he suffered serious psychological damage. The area around him began to experience strange fluctuations in gravity, peaking and dropping in time with his reactions. He had to be evacuated immediately.
Upon returning to Earth, De Kuiper was quarantined in a secret government facility. Between his ravings about the patterns of the universe, the psychic damage he sustained, and the gravitic anomalies happening around him, he was deemed unsafe and detained for years under the name "Subject Sigma." Isolated and unable to control his powers, De Kuiper retreated into his own mind. He thought he would never see the outside world again.
From Michael Chu interview on Sigma :
“It’s interesting, because I can see how people in the community have identified with Sigma as someone who is struggling or dealing with mental health issues,” Chu said. “But with the idea of the character, we never intended him to be an example of someone who’s going through mental health issues. He’s really supposed to be more focused on this very specific thing that happened to him, which is that his body and his mind were literally ripped apart by the momentary exposure to a black hole.
“With other aspects of his character, he’s certainly supposed to be eccentric. The idea behind that is more just that he sees the world a little differently. We liked this idea that he had this connection to music. So, for example, the way that he thinks about the universe, gravity, and physics, is through this prism of music. From experience talking to physicists and especially theoretical physicists is that other things that aren’t literally just the equation or the mathematics have influenced the way in which they interpret things. And so that’s the direction we went with him.”
And we don't know when Sigma was freed from the facility by Talon - so Overwatch may have been disbanded at the time so Overwatch is probably unaware of that
peak escarp
it's less mental illness and more brain damage
frosty shell
btw the Korean omnium is in the East China Sea, not the South China Sea
personally I don't think that humans put it there before the Crisis, but that's just my theory, all we know is that there is an omnium in the East China Sea
iron plume
yeah that one
winter mirage
doesn't sigma have some sort of multiple personality disoder?
peak escarp
not really
we never intended him to be an example of someone who’s going through mental health issues. He’s really supposed to be more focused on this very specific thing that happened to him, which is that his body and his mind were literally ripped apart by the momentary exposure to a black hole.
frosty shell
he doesn't
frosty shell
that doesn't really indicate multiple personalities IMO
grand wedge
look a bit higher on the thread
frosty shell
especially since didn't Sigma get held prisoner? so he'd want to say release me
peak escarp
he says release me because he was being held against his will in an asylum
grand wedge
Isolated and unable to control his powers, De Kuiper retreated into his own mind. He thought he would never see the outside world again.
frosty shell
that too
sick coyote
Being held captive does tend to beckon forth alternate personalities, people get manic mood swings and all sorts of spooky shit if their solitary for long enough
winter mirage
that makes sense
is sigma only in talon because they freed him from the asylum?
or does he agree with thier goal or something?
peak escarp
they are using him
I don't think Sigma agrees with their goals (or even knows what they are)
winter mirage
cool
limpid agate
I don't think Sigma agrees with their goals (or even knows what they are)
The second one
peak escarp
they have him locked away in a secret lab so he can continue his experiments
winter mirage
Doesn't he fight with talon?
stuck arrow
wise matrix
there is lore of lucio
peak escarp
grand wedge
Sigma has (unused) interactions that suggest he is working with Moira - so they may have put him in the Minestry of Physics in Oasis so she can keep an eye on his work (and give it to Talon to exploit it for weapons or such)
valid terrace
If he can be overseen by Talon, Oasis may be a more beneficial location for him
neat wadi
Moira was also a geneticist in Oasis. So Sigma probably had some time spent there.
frosty shell
that's not great logic
Moira presumably applied for the job and got it or was asked to have the job
neat wadi
She probably applied for it.
peak escarp
Moira was offered a position there
peak escarp
After Overwatch was disbanded, O'Deorain was forced to turn to unconventional sources of funding. This time, she was invited to join the scientific collective that had founded the city of Oasis.
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Oasis is run by an oligarchy of the smartest scientists isn’t it?
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something like that
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Dont forget that sigma calls moira a colleague
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does he?
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In game interaction
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Sigma doesn't have any
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okay
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Imagine moira's work is killing other people lol