#lore-discussion

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peak escarp
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Baptiste needs to get an interaction with her so she can have a friend

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Reaper seems proud of Widowmaker when he tells Doomfist that she was responsible for killing Mondatta

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I wonder if Reaper picked Widowmaker and Sombra for his team, or if they were assigned to him

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it would make sense if he picked Widowmaker at least, considering their history

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I wonder if the other Talon leaders go on field missions or have teams like that

limpid agate
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Antonio, Vialli, Max, Sanjay? Not likely

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Doomfist? Probably.

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Max just brings an army with him, as seen in Storm Rising

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Sanjay uses Vishkar agents like Symmetra, as seen in A Better World

peak escarp
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afaik Symmetra isnt aware that Sanjay works for Talon

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so he must not use her for Talon missions

limpid agate
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Him and Symmetra were working on the Rio takeover

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He deploys Symmetra to do the work for him

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Hence: I don't think he would go into the field himself for a job

peak escarp
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that was a Vishkar mission though

limpid agate
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So.

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He would have people under him in Talon to send on missions too

peak escarp
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I'm just pointing out that he doesn't use Symmetra for Talon missions - he probably has actual Talon agents for that

last inlet
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Makes me wonder if the things Sanjay does, like the Rio incident, are somewhat backed by Talon

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Maybe he led Vishkar away from a hypothetical original goal, to start controlling cities like that

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I don't know

final compass
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When did the null sector attack take place? Because in honour and glory Reinhardt looks young and then is suddenly old

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In uprising

worthy rose
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Cause Null sector is a modern terrorist group; Reinhardt's battle with the omnics in his cinematic short was during the omnic crisis which Null sector wasn't around for

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We don't have actual dates to concretely put things into perspective

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but we have a rough general timeline

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iirc Overwatch as of rn takes place in the 2070's with uprising happening 6 years prior

devout sable
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@final compass the Omnic Crisis (the conflict depicted in Honor and Glory) began and ended around 30 years ago

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King's Row Uprising is unrelated to it, and happened 7 years ago

placid monolith
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How long has it been since Overwatch blew up?

limpid agate
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~ 5-6 years

devout sable
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5 years since it was disbanded, 6 years since HQ explosion

limpid agate
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iirc Overwatch as of rn takes place in the 2070's with uprising happening 6 years prior

We were explicitly told Uprising was 7 years ago

devout sable
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hold on, here's a timeline I put together

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31* BR – omniums activate and launch a military assault against humanity, Omnic Crisis begins
29* BR – Overwatch Strike Team is assembled in secret
26* BR – omniums are pacified, Omnic Crisis ends, Overwatch becomes a public peacekeeping organization
23 BR – Operation: White Dome, Torbjorn loses his eye and arm, Brigitte is born
11* BR – Winston leaves the Horizon Lunar Colony and lands on Earth
9 BR – Mei and her team enter cryostasis
8 BR – Tracer's accident, the Venice incident, Blackwatch is revealed
7 BR – Amelie kidnapped, Gerard assassinated, the Cairo incident, King's Row Uprising
6 BR – Reinhardt forced to retire following an incident, Ana presumed dead, McCree leaves, Maximilien captured (Storm Rising), Doomfist captured, Overwatch HQ explosion, Morrison and Reyes presumed dead
5 BR – Petras Act is passed, Overwatch is disbanded
4 BR – Baptiste defects from Talon

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BR is short for "before Recall"

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and * are speculative

placid monolith
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Hmm.. That'd mean Reinhardt and Ana would both be alive in our current year.

devout sable
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how old are Morrison and Reyes?

placid monolith
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Late 50's, I think

limpid agate
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... Of coutse they would both be alive

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None of the playable heroes are dead

placid monolith
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No, I meant in 2019

limpid agate
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Also Torb and Sigma

placid monolith
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Yeh, the whole Team Grangran

minor fjord
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Hello, can someone explain to me the “story mode” on overwatch

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Is it even possible to do it anymore

limpid agate
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What do you mean story mode

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There isn't one

minor fjord
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Idk someone said there was a story mode

limpid agate
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There isn't

minor fjord
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And a daytime king’s row

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Or something around there

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Im not aure

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Sure

limpid agate
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There is a PvE event in April

minor fjord
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Oh

limpid agate
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That takes place in the past

worthy rose
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I didn't remember the exact timeline of things

limpid agate
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But it's not story mode

minor fjord
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Oooog

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Oooh

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Oh

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Ok

limpid agate
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It's 3 one of contained short stories

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They're not related to the main plot

minor fjord
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Ok

final compass
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What has Lúcio got to do with overwatch? I swear he is not related to it in any way

valid flame
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But he’s cool

peak escarp
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he's an enemy of Vishkar, which has ties to Lumerico and Talon (both through Sanjay)

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several heroes aren't connected to Overwatch - D.Va, Roadhog, Junkrat, Zarya, Symmetra, Hanzo, Ashe

final compass
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Hanzo sort of is... through genji

peak escarp
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kinda

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Ashe is connected through McCree

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Zarya is connected to Talon by being an enemy of Sombra

final compass
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D.Va fights Omnics... that’s close

peak escarp
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that's a big stretch

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I made a relationship web a while ago

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haven't updated it for Sigma

final compass
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What do the dots mean?

peak escarp
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dotted lines mean connections that are theorized but not confirmed

final compass
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Ok

peak escarp
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I'm going to have to rearrange things to get Sigma in there - he's a current Talon member with a theorized connection to Horizon Lunar Colony

final compass
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Ok

placid monolith
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I'm disappointed that Bastion doesn't have "family" lines at Torb and Brig.

final compass
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Lol

placid monolith
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They were clearly adopted into it.

peak escarp
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I put "it's complicated"

placid monolith
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What's the dotted lines?

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Oh, you just said that above

worthy rose
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What's complicated about Reaper and Widowmaker?

peak escarp
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she's his dead best friend's widow and murderer

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plus we don't know if they consider each other friends or what

worthy rose
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I see

timid eagle
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Indifference, probably.

devout sable
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@peak escarp already mentioned it earlier, but I think I'd draw a "it's complicated" line between Doomfist and Maximilien too

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given that there's a certain, uh, dynamic going on there

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especially if Doomfist is/ever becomes aware that Maximilien was the one to sell him out

peak escarp
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why? Max giving up Doomfist's location was just business, and Doomfist either doesn't know it was him or doesn't care (or does know and chooses not to do anything about it)

devout sable
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hmm

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alright then

peak escarp
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if they show any overt tension between them then I'd consider it, but for now they're on good terms

devout sable
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not sure if I'd describe it that way

peak escarp
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well they're not on bad terms

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neutral terms, then?

devout sable
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complicated terms

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👀

peak escarp
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we haven't seen it be complicated

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I guess I could put a dotted line

true falcon
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Are you allowed to ship characters here

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Just asking

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I need to get aquanted with the server

peak escarp
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shipping = fanfiction

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fanfiction is not allowed here

manic parcel
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Wait what

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There's confirmed romance between Genji and Mercy??

limpid agate
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Not confirmed

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But heavily teased

peak escarp
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if it's not something hinted at, then it's not worth discussing

reef dagger
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About when did Moira get offered a place in Oasis?

peak escarp
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after she left Overwatch

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so within the last 8 years

reef dagger
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Did she leave Overwatch when it was disbanded, or before then?

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Resources tell me that she was invited to Oasis after Overwatch as a whole was disbanded, so I guess she might have still been a member after the Venice Incident?

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What she did afterward until Overwatch disbanded, I don't know.

limpid agate
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We don't know when she left

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Other then after Retribution and before present day

worthy rose
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Still very questionable about why Reaper brought her in unless he had some sort of condition

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Cause Genji and McCree make some sense; combatants who were on the wrong side of the law who had done wrong and needed to be put on the straight and narrow

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Moira was already around Reaper's age so why a geneticist of all things

peak escarp
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he brought her in because he was having genetics issues

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probably related to his SEP conditioning

worthy rose
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Yea but if that were an issue we'd suspect jack to be the same way which leads me to believe there was something else wrong with him but I digress

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Maybe a minor condition that reacted poorly to the SEP treatment.

peak escarp
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maybe they didnt react to it the same way due to their original genetics

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Jack and Gabe have different genotypes

worthy rose
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Of course, but you'd think that having more than just a few soldiers would reveal any problems with fairly common genes.

manic parcel
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I thought Moira joined Reaper because she wouldn’t have her work stifled?

placid monolith
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Jack got the dominant genes while Gabe got all the recessive ones. I think OW just had a focus on research and development and Moira could use a proper supervised lab.

peak escarp
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maybe other SEP Soldiers also had complications, and Jack is the weird one for not having any

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a sample size of 2 isn't much to go on

placid monolith
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Could be.

manic parcel
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I’m so glad Mercy and Genji are heavily teased

peak escarp
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Overwatch were the ones who shut down Moira's research - Gabe went behind their backs to hire her into Blackwatch

manic parcel
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Who do we know that’s in Talon?

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Doom, Moira, Reaper, Max, Widow, Sombra?

peak escarp
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also Sanjay Korpal

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and Sigma

manic parcel
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Who’s Sanjay?

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And Sigma is like, mislead to be there right?

peak escarp
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Sanjay is Symmetra's handler/boss in Vishkar

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and yeah, Sigma isn't there by choice

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Talon "rescued" him from the government facility that was keeping him and put him in a lab so he could continue his work

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he's still a prisoner, just in a different place

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this guy is Sanjay

pliant sparrow
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It’s possible jack does have a condition from the SEP we don’t know about

devout sable
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@peak escarp who was that armored dude shown in the background, anyway?

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was that Sigma?

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or maybe a Talon trooper?

gritty yew
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Where?

pliant sparrow
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On the very back green board there’s a figure shown

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Above max

lament prawn
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pretty sure that was confirmed to just be a talon trooper

craggy ivy
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O

peak escarp
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yeah, it's just a trooper

limpid agate
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I thought it was a hero teaser. Ended up being a Retribution teaser

final compass
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I thought Baptistes skin would be like that but the one we have is still good

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And I want it but didn’t get it

lament prawn
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uh, yeah im glad baptiste's talon skin isnt just a faceless talon trooper

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no way they would have done that

limpid agate
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Without the helmet

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Obviously

peak escarp
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I kinda like the sort of helmet Sigma got

peak escarp
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it's faceless in an interesting way

lament prawn
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baptiste's visible face isnt the only thing thats personalizing that skin

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what i meant to say was im glad that skin isnt straight up just the talon trooper model with baptiste's default head model slapped on top of it

valid terrace
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Where do I go to meet Baptiste’s Maui friend?

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Is it a comic I missed?

limpid agate
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In his short story

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What You Left Behind

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!!loreText

twilit nacelleBOT
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Short Stories:
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz

News Reports:
Fading Glory; Jack Morrison: http://bit.ly/2f9TPq4
Experimental Weapon Stolen: http://bit.ly/2fMrKsj
Lucio's Synaesthesia World Tour: http://bit.ly/2flja2U
LumériCo: http://bit.ly/1XAJfd1
Overwatch is Back: http://bit.ly/1TAWebT
LumériCo Revealed: http://bit.ly/2e6P5oj
Portero Steps Down: http://bit.ly/2fk8Bes
Efi Oladele Interview: http://bit.ly/2miMZkT
Horizon Lunar Colony: http://bit.ly/2reMSKx
Attack on Helix: http://bit.ly/2tn45mk
Oslo Attack: https://bit.ly/2uHKXUr
Don Rumbotico: https://bit.ly/2VtzZKX

Documents:
Mei's Adventure: http://bit.ly/2fMxRg4
Torb's Letter: http://bit.ly/2HK4CWa
Venice Declassified: https://bit.ly/2Hs807B
Cuerva: https://bit.ly/2BHEqd9

Travel Guides:
Oasis: http://bit.ly/2iPTM4K
Paris: https://bit.ly/2GEyOoq

limpid agate
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It's at the top

valid terrace
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Thank you

reef dagger
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About Oasis...

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Why are the Ministry of Biology and the Ministry of Genetics different?

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I can't really think of too many situations where genetics doesn't cross into biology

peak escarp
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Genetics is a specific field of Biology

reef dagger
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Precisely.

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I just mean, you can do biology without dealing with genetics, but you can't do genetics without dealing with biology

peak escarp
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I don't see a Ministry of Biology listed

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nvm found it

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maybe they decided Genetics was a significant enough field to require its own ministry

urban sedge
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Probably same reason forensics has those two separated, too

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We usually have forensic biology and forensic genetics

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Because there are some situations (crime solving for example, but for OW it'd be other stuff) in which you can delve REALLY deeply into genetics, whereas the other areas of biology can be grouped up as one

placid monolith
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What do we know about God programs other than they take over omnics?

peak escarp
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Anubis is the only one we know of

placid monolith
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Hm.. Was afraid of that

peak escarp
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it was shut down and quarantined by Overwatch, which caused massive economical instability in Cairo (Anubis was probably connected to their infrastructure somehow)

placid monolith
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I hope they become relevant in the lore at some point

peak escarp
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I don't think they're that important

placid monolith
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They have story potential

peak escarp
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so does a lot of things

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like the Iris, or Sombra's conspiracy

humble cliff
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aight ama head out

reef dagger
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Is there a name for the equipment Moira wears? Like the pack?

wise matrix
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no i dont see or recall anything about it.

slow cloak
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Can someone fill me in with the lore

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I’ve missed a lot

peak escarp
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check the pins

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if you have specific questions we can help, but if you just want to know stuff, read/watch what's listed there

slow cloak
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Where are the pins??

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Nvm

prisma wren
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sombras conspiracy?

peak escarp
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Sombra thinks there's someone/something running the world, pulling the strings behind every major group

reef dagger
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I wonder if Moira is left-handed

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It'd require careful inspection of animations, methinks

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But, given the state her right hand is in, the left hand would presumably be more dexterous

peak escarp
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I don't think most people would experiment on their dominant hand

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so she's probably a leftie

reef dagger
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Yeah, that's exactly what I was about to say

peak escarp
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Sombra too - she hacks with her left, and her grip with her right hand is shaky

reef dagger
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Because ordinarily, you do injections on the left arm

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But, she intentionally chose to experiment on the right arm.

peak escarp
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Genji writes with his left

worthy rose
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Can someone who speaks spanish tell me what this means

reef dagger
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The Shadow (something) Omnium

peak escarp
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The Shadow of the Omnium

valid terrace
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Does Storm Rising lead to Doomfist’s first capture or is it ‘present day’ trying to thwart him again?

craggy wharf
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Storm Rising leads to Doomfists first capture

worthy rose
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do you guys think we will ever see a polish character be introduced?

severe fjord
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probably because they make charecters from all places

limpid agate
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Probably not anytime soon

valid terrace
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I know people say Lucio’s dad made his sonic amp but I can’t find the source of that

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His bio says he stole the tech from Vishkar

peak escarp
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Mercy: Lúcio, I never realized your father was the one who invented Vishkar's sonic technology.

valid terrace
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Ah rad

peak escarp
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it's from an in-game interaction

valid terrace
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👍

peak escarp
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Lucio's father was a Vishkar employee

valid terrace
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Probably most of Brazil at the time

manic parcel
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I wish we got more about Vishkar/Sanjay

limpid agate
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Same

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We probably won't get anything for a while

peak escarp
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how so?

worthy rose
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We still have Blizzcon before 2020, and that's a huge event...

peak escarp
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there's still 3.5 months left in 2019

lament prawn
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"i guess blizzcon could be something" like its not the biggest event of the year for blizzard

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and they say this year will be their biggest i heard

peak escarp
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they could drop something at any moment

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Blizzcon will bring something almost guaranteed

worthy rose
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Well, yes, it's Blizzcon...

peak escarp
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minimum expected is a new hero and animated short

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if the ending of WYLB is any indication, Mercy will be featured next

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no

tribal osprey
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yikes

thorn kettle
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what if the new bastion skin is canon ?

peak escarp
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it isn't

final compass
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I think it should be

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Where was bastion found in that comic with torb?

peak escarp
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northern sweden

final compass
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How’d he manage to get there without being seen?

agile sequoia
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lego bastion was the prototype

final compass
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Yes

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Blizzard we have some ideas on the bastion models lore here for you to add in! Jk

peak escarp
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no

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Bastion has been wandering around for about 15 years without being seen

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it probably sticks to the forests/wooded areas where people don't usually go

worthy rose
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Zen will never have a lore cause they can’t find one

peak escarp
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ok

valid terrace
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I would at least like to see our cyberchip-monk calm down an edgy Genji

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He doesn’t have much else cinematically interesting imo

worthy rose
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So what do you guys thing about Sigma's lore?

valid terrace
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It feels kind of weak atm but I’m sure it’ll be fleshed out

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He only has average ties to Talon and not much else

worthy rose
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Yea I feel like it would be a nice story but atleast we have a tank for Talon

valid terrace
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True

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Besides Mauga

worthy rose
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yup

valid terrace
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Heavy Assault with a shield 😬

worthy rose
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Not to get into design but his outfits and character lines are pretty good.

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I want an other junker tbh

valid terrace
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We have 3 I’m good for at least a little longer

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And D.Va and Bastion skins

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They should add in a Brazil map

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So we get more Lúcio/ Symmetra insight

worthy rose
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Ikr we need another junker

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how did roadhog and Junkrat even meet, I think I never saw that peace of lore

peak escarp
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look up the comic "Wasted Land"

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that's how they met

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Junkers aren't very important to the story right now

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maybe if they revisit them, then it'll be time for Junker Queen

worthy rose
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Thanks dude I don't really read the comic

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gotta catch up

peak escarp
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Junkrat and Roadhog met relatively recently

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probably less than a year before present day

valid terrace
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Has the present day of Overwatch moved forward at the same rate as our time?

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ik Orisa’s bio says 2 months but idk if that’s outdated or not

peak escarp
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no

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the current story is centered around Recall, which happens in the spring iirc

valid terrace
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Only thing important in J-town rn is Junkrat’s treasure tbh

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Aight

peak escarp
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Masquerade (and Doomfist's escape) happens roughly a year after that

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and then Orisa is created after that

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so the present day lore we have spans about a year

valid terrace
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I think most of the cinematics are present day as well

peak escarp
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yes

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Recall, Alive, Dragons, Hero, the parts of Honor and Glory with Brigitte, Rise and Shine, Infiltration, Shooting Star and Reunion are all present day

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only The Last Bastion and the flashbacks in Recall, Honor and Glory and Rise and Shine are not present day

valid terrace
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Oh when does Last Bastion take place?

peak escarp
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~10-15 years ago

valid terrace
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Damn they built Numbani fast then

peak escarp
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this timeline was shown at GDC 2017 during Michael Chu's talk about worldbuilding

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Numbani was built after the crisis, which ended ~25 years ago

valid terrace
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Right but it’s still a mega city in that time

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In Africa too so all resources have a harder time getting there

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Very spice

peak escarp
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things have probably improved in the future

valid terrace
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Yeah

peak escarp
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it's a technologically advanced city

valid terrace
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Yeah ik lol but it’s still pretty wild

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Especially to have a 3 doomfist history and a museum it must have been built in an immediate reaction to housing Omnics

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Similar to Junkertown probably

peak escarp
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similar

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Junkertown was built out of a ruined omnium

valid terrace
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Right but much of the surrounding area was to be given as well

peak escarp
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Numbani was a collaborative effort between humans and omnics to build a city of harmony

valid terrace
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Yeah but in the beginning they likely had very similar purposes

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To appease the post-war Omnics

peak escarp
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yes

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just in two very different ways

valid terrace
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Very interesting how much of it’s history does focus on humans alone though

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tbh there’s probably going to be some event or character that stems from Russia’s Omnium

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Unless it’s being directly controlled and not aimlessly spitting bots

peak escarp
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Russia is at war with them right now

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they could revisit that

valid terrace
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Yeah it seems like a big deal that gets easily overlooked

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But a decent twist would be that the Omnium is being run by Talon or some other shadow organization rather than the base AI

peak escarp
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that would be forced

valid terrace
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Or whatever program caused the war to begin with

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Possibly but Talon does want war and may further explain why Volskaya was at odds with Talon

peak escarp
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Volskaya is at odds with Talon because she won't join them

valid terrace
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To the point of sending an elite ops assassination though?

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Eh whatever Vialli made some bad decisions anyways

peak escarp
valid terrace
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Yeah ik I just hope there’s something deeper there

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Cause right now Zarya’s only link to the rest of the gang hangs on ‘Talon leader throwing tantrum’

peak escarp
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there's a few heroes who have little or no link to the main story

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Zarya, Lucio, Symmetra, Hanzo, Zenyatta, D.Va

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Road and Junk

valid terrace
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I think Symmetra is a bit closer

peak escarp
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she's one degree removed

valid terrace
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Wrecking Ball’s out there too

peak escarp
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oh yeah

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I keep forgetting him

valid terrace
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All the junker’s and no one needs them

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Honestly a lot of them are just side characters made to flesh out a vanilla who hasn’t seen as much

peak escarp
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yeah

valid terrace
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Like Brigitte for Rein
WB for Winston
Ashe for McDaddy

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Sigma is at least independent to an extent but he seems rather sudden

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Baptiste is actually quite nice since he came in a bit more fleshed out

peak escarp
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he was a sudden character

valid terrace
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Yeye

peak escarp
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they were originally making Mauga, but changed their mind mid-development

valid terrace
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He’s also hard to pin down in conversation since muh, black hole got my brain

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So it’s difficult to extract much about his character(s)

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Also they work on like 3 or 4 characters at a time I think

peak escarp
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yep

valid terrace
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Mauga absolutely seems like the most playable of the absent roster though

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Followed by mock-Athena

peak escarp
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Echo

valid terrace
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Ah yes I forgot

peak escarp
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she's the favourite to be released at Blizzcon

valid terrace
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Very likely as it’s “the biggest BlizzCon yet”

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Or they just tease Overwatch 2 officially

peak escarp
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probably

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I hope it really is a PvE story-based game

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I'd play the hell out of that

worthy rose
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What else would they do?

last inlet
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Yeah, a large expansion would be great

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But I'm not gonna get my hopes up to be disappointed

peak escarp
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not an expansion, a separate game

valid terrace
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I’ve heard it’s currently styled like l4d

last inlet
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They could do whatever

worthy rose
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I'd play it, whatever it is, but they've done most other types of games.

valid terrace
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So similar to the archives event

peak escarp
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yes

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but better

valid terrace
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I wonder if they would keep the archives or migrate them after

peak escarp
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maybe

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come up with a different event to replace it

valid terrace
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nvm I kinda blanked on all the loot that comes with

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Still would be cool to see a new event though

limpid agate
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But maybe not economical

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Would be nice to keep historical free Archives events in parallel to present day plot relevant campaign

peak escarp
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I hadn't thought of that

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that's a good idea

valid terrace
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Is it confirmed present day?

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I was kinda hoping to battle through the crisis

last inlet
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Nothing is confirmed

valid terrace
#

Aight cool

last inlet
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But a hypothetical story based game could have that as an opening mission, I'd think

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Then jump to present day

valid terrace
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There’s a little less to do in modern day honestly

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And I’m imagining that each map would have a reason or at least significance like in Overwatch

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Probably more so in the new one

peak escarp
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there's a lot they could do in modern day

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they could give us missions we haven't heard of yet

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omnic crisis missions would require changes to certain heroes' kits (which wouldn't be an issue in a separate game)

valid terrace
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I just think the Omnics would make for a good, consistent enemy throughout each level

last inlet
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I wouldn't mind it working off the current game but with a small amount of customization exclusive to the story

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For each hero

valid terrace
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Rather than Talon or Helix or whatever else

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Nah it should be separate

last inlet
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Enemy variety isn't bad

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But there aren't a whole lot of factions to fight

valid terrace
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Yeah but it would complicate what I’m hoping is a mix of linear story and online quick play

last inlet
#

How so?

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Dang gotta go back to work

valid terrace
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Nothing wrong with swapping viewpoints but one group wouldn’t fight both sides

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And I would like to group up with randoms without being limited in character choice

peak escarp
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if it's anything like current Archives missions, you'll be restricted to 4 (maybe more) heroes

valid terrace
#

Ye

fringe blade
#

When is Blizzcon again

limpid agate
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November 1st

lament prawn
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most people are wanting to see what happens in the future of the ow timeline, we’ve had a lot of the crisis stuff

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i want to finally see ow vs talon develop and how the other heroes will fit into the story

peak escarp
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I'm eager for anything, but I want to see plot progression most of all

spare flint
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Sigma in lore: V I O L E N C E
Sigma in game: Ah, bedankt! :)

gritty yew
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True

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Actual 5Head

teal meadow
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Sigma in lore: V I O L E N C E

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sigma in game: would you like to go to luna's cabaret with me? 🙂

worthy rose
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Yes, some plot progression would be cool

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It doesn't even have to be the progression of the general plot, just continuation of some tidbits of the characters

craggy wharf
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Plot Progression is likely being saved for OW 2

worthy rose
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Like Reaper and that family he was stalking at Christmas

atomic blaze
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I would like to see a symmetra origin

gray wigeon
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How about we just remove symm

vale stirrup
#

yes

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shes trahs right now

spare flint
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Her beam was just nerfed, though. Now for more strategic teleportation and sentry tactics (bombing, nesting)

worthy rose
#

sigmas feet is endgame boss

limpid agate
#

@worthy rose Implied to be his real family as of Bastet

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!!shitposting @worthy rose

twilit nacelleBOT
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@worthy rose Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

worthy rose
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oh ok

valid terrace
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Symmetra was a poor kid but was able to pass some sort of aptitude test for hard light manipulation and left down the path to Vishkar and where she is today

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Doesn’t seem like she regrets leaving either

peak escarp
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she was plucked out of poverty

valid terrace
#

Right

peak escarp
#

I don't think anyone regrets leaving poverty

valid terrace
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Lmao fair point

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But she never discusses any family or friends back home

peak escarp
#

she might not have any

valid terrace
#

I was about to say that lol

peak escarp
#

the status of her family isn't mentioned anywhere

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unlike Mercy, Sombra and Baptiste, who are specifically listed as orphans of the crisis

valid terrace
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Yeah she could have been an orphan it’s unclear

grim kiln
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why does zarya hate torbjorn so much?

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for the love of christ she hates like everyone except for rein

devout sable
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what do you mean?

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what does she say to him?

grim kiln
#

in voicelines she says numerous things like "that is for the suffering of my people"

devout sable
#

??

grim kiln
#

not to mention, even his interactions with bastion are some times aggressive and sometimes passive aggressive

devout sable
#

Torb doesn't like omnics

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while also being partially responsible for the creation of some of the more deadly omnics

grim kiln
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alright, because his voiceline response to zaryas is "dont remind me"

peak escarp
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Torbjorn helped design some models of omnic

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specifically the Bastion model

grim kiln
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yea he said something about him having a system check

peak escarp
#

it's like being mad at Henry Ford because your family got run over by a truck

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so Zarya dislikes Torbjorn for his part in creating the omnics (she's currently at war with them)

valid terrace
#

Or she just hates small people

peak escarp
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I doubt that's it

orchid raft
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hey I'm a bit new where might I find the lore and stuff is there like comic books or a youtube series?

limpid agate
#

@orchid raft Pins

orchid raft
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thanks

worthy rose
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I need my inhaler

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Because you got ass ma

pliant sparrow
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Zarya along with most of russia has a hatred for omnics

grand tangle
#

Wait... So Ashe and McCree never dated, I know that but... Why does Ashe keep a photo of McCree and her on her bike ? Like, why is everybody else torn out of that picture ?

peak escarp
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they never dated and McCree doesn't have feelings for her . . . but it seems like she has feelings for him

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unrequited love

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!!loreonly

twilit nacelleBOT
#

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

pliant sparrow
#

Could just be so she has someone to always hate

final compass
#

Was ‘the plan’ actually part of the story or was it just a little cinematic to introduce Junkertown and why your pushing the payload?

peak escarp
#

I believe it's something that actually happened

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Junkrat and Roadhog did go on a global heist spree to collect money and valuables

#

so it's both

devout sable
#

it's kinda a shame they never dated tbh

#

wouldn't mind the resulting dynamic

peak escarp
#

it would be interesting

grand tangle
#

@pliant sparrow that would be weird considering Ashe's backstory. I can tell you : most people who did stupid shit in the past just to get attention won't ever need anything reminding them to hate something or somebody.

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Whenever I received class photos I just stabbed out the faces of those who I deeply hated. That was hate enough, wouldn't want to keep something that makes you mad, would you ?

peak escarp
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that's the point - she kept it because she liked him

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if she truly hated him, she would have destroyed the picture and anything that reminded her of him

little crag
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hi so i was playing in nepal the other day and zen goes "it is good to return, though I wonder if I am still welcome here" or something like that. i dont think the dev/creators mentioned anything about zen's past except being part of the shambali and guiding genji so lets talk about that

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ive actually heard this a bunch of times before but i never truly realized what he said whoOps

peak escarp
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Zenyatta left the Shambali because he disagreed with Mondatta on how they should spread the message of equality

grand tangle
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That's weird, If I remember correctly, Zenyatta was seen in Nepal in one of the comics. Maybe it's got something to do with Mondatta ?

peak escarp
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Mondatta wanted to stay in the monastery and preach from there

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Zenyatta wanted to go out and be among the people

little crag
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ohhhhh

#

when was that mentioned?

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im really late to basically everything lol

peak escarp
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in his bio

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But one monk, Zenyatta, disagreed with this new direction. He believed that the way to repair the problems between humans and omnics was not through dogmatic teaching but through interpersonal connection and engagement.```
little crag
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why did he leave the whole shambali because of mondatta tho

peak escarp
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not specifically because of Mondatta

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but Mondatta was their leader, so he decided what direction they would take

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and Zenyatta disagreed with that direction

little crag
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ohhhh

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okay thanks for the clear up

peak escarp
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also

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Zenyatta and Genji live in the village below the monastery

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Genji's room can be seen on the Nepal Village map

little crag
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woahhhhh

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nice

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nice

peak escarp
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it's above/behind the objective

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you can see a photo of Hanzo and Genji, and a Japanese painting

flat mantle
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that's a really cool easter egg

little crag
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whats your guys's favorite character based on personality/lore/back ground

peak escarp
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McCree, obviously

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but I also really like Mercy and Sombra

little crag
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a good amount of ppl ik have said mercy. personally i really like mercy too but there isnt much lore to really like her for is there?

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as u can tell i dont know much about the character's bgs lol

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basically im asking what do you like abt mercy

peak escarp
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there's a fair amount, but it's mostly buried in lore for other heroes

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I like how she's the only one who thinks Overwatch coming back is a bad idea

little crag
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doesnt soldier also go against the idea of bring back overwatch

worthy rose
#

Ish

little crag
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in gibraltar does he say somehting like "bring back ow, whats the point"

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idk i always tend to miss interactions/voice lines

worthy rose
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He’s more “it’s shut down. Im gonna take vengeance on everyone who brought it down” and doesn’t necessarily want it to come back. He’s sort of a man on a mission of vengeance no longer caring about it’s return

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Like if you ask me, I dont think he cares much if it returns or not. He’s taking down those who wronged the organization and that’s about it

little crag
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ohhh

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okayyy

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yea i get it now

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so what abt you @worthy rose

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whos youre favorite character based off lore

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your*

worthy rose
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Sombra lore wise cause she hints at something more and also if something is amiss she usually has a hand in it

#

I love the conspiracy and am very intrigued how they write it out more and I have a couple of theories but none of them have any actual proof

little crag
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what are they?

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the theories i mean

worthy rose
#

Like why reaper turned to Talon

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Thats the only one I really have thought about the others are less so impressive as I havent formulated the motivations

little crag
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thats cool

limpid agate
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I see it simply as

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Common goal

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They both are enemies of ex-Overwatch agents

supple mortar
#

how did bastion get recruited to overwatch?

peak escarp
#

read the comic "Binary"

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it's implied that afterwards, Torbjorn brings it to Overwatch

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it hasn't been confirmed that Bastion joins new Overwatch, but the Blizzard World trailer and the blurb on the back of the comic anthology imply that it does

supple mortar
#

when will the next animated short come out damn

worthy rose
#

Blizzcon?

limpid agate
#

Blizzcon the latest

supple mortar
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hopefully a long one

limpid agate
#

Would be nice if they have another beforehand

#

But unlikely. The only real event I can see it happening is OWL finals

peak escarp
#

they could surprise everyone and drop a short without an event

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like they do with the short stories (and used to with the comics)

supple mortar
#

which character is most likely to get a short next?

peak escarp
#

probably Mercy and Baptiste

supple mortar
#

perhaps mercy?

peak escarp
#

he was going to see her to warn her that Talon knows the locations of former Overwatch agents

supple mortar
#

i would lowkey like to see a scientist short with their experiments

limpid agate
#

Their?

peak escarp
#

like Rise and Shine?

limpid agate
#

Is they plural or singular in this context?

supple mortar
#

i guess moira

limpid agate
#

Mercy and Moira didn't work together

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Not as far as we know

#

And they didnt really have reason to either

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Nor would they have gotten along

supple mortar
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a torb comic would be appreciated

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short*

limpid agate
#

You're in luck, we have 2

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Destroyer and Binary

supple mortar
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i meant an animated short 😦

limpid agate
#

I'd say he is the most likely after Mercy

#

We have a hint as to his Recall answer

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We have nothing about Mercy

supple mortar
#

did we get confirmation about who the omnic that McCree saved is? I havent caught up to the story in a long time

limpid agate
#

Echo

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Potentially not an omnic

peak escarp
#

it doesn't have to be in a short, but I'd like to see the other heroes' reactions to Torbjorn showing up with a bastion unit

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Reinhardt's reaction in particular

supple mortar
#

damn

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that would be emotional considering what the bastion units did to balderich

peak escarp
#

but I think if Torbjorn is cool with it, Reinhardt would trust him

flat mantle
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I want an explanation of the second omnic crisis, an explanation for Echo, more queer characters revealed and more relationships in general revealed. character development matters to me more than the overall plot but the first question feels way too important to leave unanswered for a long period of time

peak escarp
#

what's there to explain? omnics in Siberia are attacking Russian forces, Katya Volskaya is secretly receiving tech from an omnic informant

supple mortar
#

i want a short with moira doing stuff to reaper

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i want everything really

peak escarp
#

orientations and relationships are low on the priority list

supple mortar
#

I would like blizzard to make a movie... but considering the flop that warcraft became.. i dont think it would work out either

peak escarp
#

Echo you'll probably get an explanation for pretty soon, since she's the most likely to be the hero announced at Blizzcon

limpid agate
#

Second Omnic Crisis
What Dr6 said. Omnics woke back up as mysteriously as the first time, and Katya is supplying the war with Numbani tech. (Also wroth noting that the Russian Omnium was one of the ones not shut down by Overwatch)

#

Echo
This will come when she becomes a hero, most likely this year Blizzcon.

#

More LGBT characters
For what purpose?

#

More relationships
For watch purpose?

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Most heroes have no reason to be in a present day relationship. I am surprised Reaper even had a family

#

Like, take Doomfist.

peak escarp
#

his family was probably during the Golden Age of Overwatch, back when things were a little more settled

limpid agate
#

Him having a relationship probably wouldn't mean much. I can only see it being important to either show:
A: He is willing (or unwilling) to sacrifice his own family for his goal
B: He is grooming an heir

peak escarp
#

(which also means any children he had would probably have inherited his SEP genetics but not whatever Moira did to him)

worthy rose
#

What is the melody that Sigma hears??

#

I do not understand

limpid agate
#

The musica universalis (literally universal music), also called music of the spheres or harmony of the spheres, is an ancient philosophical concept that regards proportions in the movements of celestial bodies—the Sun, Moon, and planets—as a form of music. This "music" is...

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Is what its speculated to be

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The mathematical concept of the universe as a form of music

peak escarp
#

apparently, recent studies into black holes have detected certain tones/sounds that come from black holes

#

I don't think they knew about this when designing Sigma, but it's still interesting

worthy rose
#

That's neat

flat mantle
#

like I said, this is just what I personally want. I didn't realise the second crisis was so similar to the first, so apologies, but in that case I want an explanation for the omnics 'going rogue' per se in general, and an explanation for the god programs. I want LGBT characters cuz I like having them and I want relationships (friendships, family, not just romantic if that was what it looked like) because they're more interesting to read about than reading about a robot war. like, shorts and comics about character development. just my opinion

peak escarp
#

understandable

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unfortunately they haven't explained why the omnics went rogue - I feel like they'll save that for a major lore event, along with what happened between Jack and Gabe in the Swiss HQ

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"god programs" really just refers to Anubis

limpid agate
#

Personally, I do not find character relationships interesting, and think they generally detract unless they have some importance.

#

LGBT or not

#

Widow's, Ana's, and Torb's are relevant because they are core to the origins of Widowmaker, Pharah, and Brigitte.

#

Soldier's and Reaper's are not, they just exist as another layer of contrast between the two characters.

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Tracer's is not, but she's the protagonist so she gets a pass.

worthy rose
#

Tracer is the protagonist?

limpid agate
#

More or less

worthy rose
#

I thought it was Soldier or Winston

limpid agate
#

Winston is number 2

#

Soldier is the historical lead

flat mantle
#

I suppose the difference between us is that I like the smaller details, and you prefer the wider image

limpid agate
#

I like smaller details too

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Just not those ones

flat mantle
#

haha fair enough

worthy rose
#

So if I asked you guys the lore of a character, would you know?

limpid agate
#

Yes

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Playable or not

peak escarp
#

if it's available

flat mantle
#

those two are experts

worthy rose
#

Give me Reinhardt

limpid agate
#

Ok

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!!loreHeroes reinhardt

twilit nacelleBOT
worthy rose
#

I thought you knew it by memory

limpid agate
#

I do

worthy rose
#

i dissapointngbc

peak escarp
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I do, but it's easier to link you to his bio than to write it all out

worthy rose
#

Who founded Talon?

limpid agate
#

Don't know

#

But its not anyone playable

worthy rose
#

Hmm

peak escarp
#

the bio doesn't mention how Reinhardt saved Torbjorn's life 23 years ago, which earned him the privilege of naming Torbjorn's youngest daughter

worthy rose
#

What characters have a romantic relationship with each other?

limpid agate
#

Inter-character?

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None

#

Genji/Mercy is implied

#

But that is all

worthy rose
#

That's suprising

peak escarp
#

it's not a dating sim

worthy rose
#

I know

#

But I thought it would have been cool

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Them interacting with each other in game

peak escarp
#

the only heroes currently in a romantic relationship are Torbjorn and Tracer

worthy rose
#

i thought soldier and ana had one

limpid agate
#

Soldier is gay.

#

Ana had a husband

peak escarp
#

Soldier is gay and Ana was married

worthy rose
#

What

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Wtf

#

my whole life is a lie

limpid agate
#

Soldier is gay and has been single for the past 30 years. Ana was married for ~30 years until she faked her own death 6 years ago.

peak escarp
worthy rose
#

Wow

limpid agate
#

Soldier 76 and Tracer are the only gay heroes we know of. Widowmaker, Ana, Torbjorn, and Reaper are all more or less straight.

worthy rose
#

Well

limpid agate
#

Guillermo Portero, the antagonist of the Sombra ARG, is also gay.

worthy rose
#

Does Reaper have a sexual orientation?

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He's

limpid agate
#

Widowmaker, Ana, Torbjorn, and Reaper are all more or less straight.

worthy rose
#

Like a demon or something

#

Idk

limpid agate
#

No

peak escarp
#

he's still human

limpid agate
#

He's a human

#

He was a normal but enhanced human up to ~6 years ago

peak escarp
#

he can just discorporate his body into a cloud of cells and recorporate somewhere else

limpid agate
#

His body is just corpselike now.

worthy rose
#

He a cool guy

limpid agate
#

He's still human, just with revolting superpowers

#

Closest comparison is probably Deadpool.

#

Deadpool isn't a demon, its just a human with mutant powers. But he looks like he should be dead

worthy rose
#

Is Ashe related to McCree? I know they were in the same gang

peak escarp
#

they were founders of the Deadlock Gang

limpid agate
#

They are not related

#

But its suggested Ashe has/had a crush on him.

#

McCree isn't interested

worthy rose
#

Ok

peak escarp
#

Ashe seems to have unresolved feelings towards him

worthy rose
#

What about Hammond?

#

give me his lore

#

please

limpid agate
#

!!loreHeroes wrecking-ball

twilit nacelleBOT
peak escarp
#

he's a genetically enhanced hamster that escaped the moon and crash landed in the Australian outback

limpid agate
#

For post launch heroes

#

You can also just watch their origin shorts

#

!!loreShorts

twilit nacelleBOT
#

Animated Shorts:
Cinematic Trailer: http://bit.ly/1yhzaCC
Recall: http://bit.ly/1T1Aky8
Alive: http://bit.ly/1PSJV5x
Dragons: http://bit.ly/1WAZs3c
Hero: http://bit.ly/1ToCD1E
The Last Bastion: http://bit.ly/2b3TsNN
Infiltration: http://bit.ly/2emetBC
Rise and Shine: http://bit.ly/2xcMYoH
Honor and Glory: http://bit.ly/2A4FxRa
Shooting Star: https://bit.ly/2MCgtuP
Reunion: https://bit.ly/2AJhhHo

Origin Trailers:
Tracer: http://bit.ly/2fDNQxI
Soldier 76: http://bit.ly/1FpWpDB
Ana: http://bit.ly/29zamjl
Sombra: http://bit.ly/2fMt3aJ
Orisa: http://bit.ly/2liKFy8
King's Row Uprising: http://bit.ly/2p2pukK
Doomfist: http://bit.ly/2tWoWzZ
Moira: http://bit.ly/2hF7GXZ
Brigitte: http://bit.ly/2GSto50
Hammond: https://bit.ly/2lKVlU9
Ashe: https://bit.ly/2F2SPor
Baptiste: https://bit.ly/2TeM1Kq
Sigma: https://bit.ly/2JJTVWE

Other Videos:
A Moment in Crime - Junkers: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Are You With Us?: http://bit.ly/2fle4Uw
We Are Overwatch: http://bit.ly/1Pd9XmJ
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
Retribution: https://bit.ly/2MLHf44
Roadtrip: https://bit.ly/2RLk08M
Storm Rising: https://bit.ly/2MLHkEU

peak escarp
#

he has since left Junkertown and now wanders the world looking for adventure

worthy rose
#

Thanks

#

So Winston and him are pals I suppose

peak escarp
#

they were friends on the moon

#

Winston doesn't know Hammond followed him to Earth

worthy rose
#

wow

#

what a meanie

peak escarp
#

meanie?

#

Hammond was out of his cage, lost somewhere on the colony - Winston wasn't going to waste time finding him while he was building his capsule to escape

worthy rose
#

But I mean on Earth

#

Why didn't Hammond attempt to reconcile with his old friend

peak escarp
#

maybe he will

worthy rose
#

i hope so

peak escarp
#

he needed money to fix up his mech first - that's why he fought in the Scrap Yard

#

Winston's certainly famous enough that Hammond would have heard about him

worthy rose
#

Did Hammond ever encounter Junkrat or Road while in Australia?

peak escarp
#

Junkrat is a fan

worthy rose
#

Man

#

You guys know it all

peak escarp
#

yep

#

if there's something lore related to know, I make it my business to know it

dry portal
#

Damn I never saw that

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Nice attention to detail

peak escarp
#

the guy sitting next to Junkrat is Bruce, Roadhog's friend from "Wasted Land"

limpid agate
#

If you want more attention to detail

#

^ and also

#

Hammond built Wrecking Ball in Bruce's garage.

worthy rose
#

Who the hell is Bruce

limpid agate
#

Roadhog's friend from "Wasted Land"

worthy rose
#

I don't know what that is

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but ok

limpid agate
#

!!loreComics

twilit nacelleBOT
#

Comics:
Train Hopper: https://bit.ly/2vaOY0I
Dragon Slayer: https://bit.ly/2GpRZRk
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
A Better World: https://bit.ly/2DeJGpK
Mission Statement: https://bit.ly/2UFLC5o
Destroyer: https://bit.ly/2XcYZ9G
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Junkenstein: https://bit.ly/2Is3WZ4
Reflections: https://bit.ly/2IoZQkr
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Uprising: https://bit.ly/2UCymhE
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
Searching: https://bit.ly/2Gh3jy6
Retribution: https://bit.ly/2XePmHG

Mini-Comics:
Return of Junkenstein: https://bit.ly/2Gqp7Z8
Yeti Hunt: https://bit.ly/2VPmxRI

worthy rose
#

Oh comics

#

ok ok

#

Umm

dry portal
#

So was Bruce part of the coalition aswell I assume

worthy rose
#

Why does Reaper hate Soldier?

peak escarp
#

this spot can be found on the map

dry portal
#

Took leadership

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Giant war

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Etc etc

peak escarp
#

in here

dry portal
#

Doctor can go into more detail

peak escarp
#

Reaper doesn't hate Soldier for taking the leadership of Overwatch

dry portal
#

But basically Jack “stole” Gabriel’s role on the team as leader

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Oh why does he then

limpid agate
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No

peak escarp
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he was happy to not be in charge

limpid agate
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That's not why

worthy rose
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Why does he then

limpid agate
#

The division started with Retribution

peak escarp
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Gabe didn't want the responsibility

limpid agate
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And built up to the Swiss HQ incident

worthy rose
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Who started the whole war? Talon?

peak escarp
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they started to lose trust between each other, and Jack got stressed from having to cover for Reyes and Blackwatch

dry portal
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Yeah after Gabriel killed that talon executive

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I forget his name

peak escarp
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Antonio

dry portal
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Yeah him

worthy rose
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Quick fire round

peak escarp
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it was the Venice Incident (Retribution) that started the fall of Overwatch

worthy rose
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Why does Doomfist have a metal arm?

dry portal
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Lost it in omnic war

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Somehow

peak escarp
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he killed the previous Doomfist and took the gauntlet for himself

dry portal
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If you mean the gauntlet it’s a weapon

worthy rose
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Are Junkrat and Roadhog brothers?

peak escarp
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no

dry portal
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But he has a prosthetic arm too

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Also no

worthy rose
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Best friends?

peak escarp
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they meet for the first time in "Wasted Land"

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Roadhog is his bodyguard

dry portal
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Ye basically

worthy rose
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So Junkrat is the mastermind

dry portal
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Read there comic for more info

worthy rose
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and Road's the lackey

dry portal
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Roadhog was at first in for it just for Junkrats treasure

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I think

peak escarp
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yep

worthy rose
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Did they find it?

dry portal
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Not sure

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Did they Doctor?

peak escarp
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only Junkrat knows what his treasure is

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it may not even be something physical

worthy rose
#

Maybe it was all a ruse

peak escarp
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it could be knowledge

worthy rose
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Under all that craziness, I see some intelligence

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Maybe he's some secret genius

dry portal
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Well yeah ofc

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I assume he built all his gear himself

peak escarp
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he's an idiot savant

worthy rose
#

Whaaaa

dry portal
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He created a remote explosive tire and land mines

worthy rose
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You'll see

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IQ 192

dry portal
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That takes some engineering skill

worthy rose
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I honestly just want more lore on Sigma

dry portal
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SAME

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He’s so cool

worthy rose
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Mhm

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For me

peak escarp
worthy rose
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He's the 2nd coolest looking tank

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Rein's first for me

dry portal
#

Yeah junkrat probably fits in that category well

worthy rose
#

Yesh

dry portal
#

Did he make his prosthetics himself?

limpid agate
#

Junkrat made his everything himself

dry portal
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Damn that’s impressive

worthy rose
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What about Roadhog's gun?

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Did he make it?

dry portal
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Don’t think so

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But I’m not sure

limpid agate
#

No

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Roadhog had it before they met

worthy rose
#

Who is the smartest of all the characters?

dry portal
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Debatable

worthy rose
#

A lot of contenders

dry portal
#

Just like pure intelligence or?

worthy rose
#

Yes

limpid agate
#

In terms of what

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Science?

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Tactics?

dry portal
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Engineering?

worthy rose
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IQ

limpid agate
#

Literature?

worthy rose
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Who has the highest

limpid agate
#

Oh IQ

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Then uhh...

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Hammond

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Easily

worthy rose
#

If it's engineering, I would say Symmetra

limpid agate
#

He's only 14

worthy rose
#

She made that big ass wall

dry portal
#

Either Winston or Sigma asa guess

limpid agate
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Sigma would have the lowest IQ of the geniuses

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He's 62

worthy rose
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And he's insane

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i think

dry portal
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He’s insane but that doesn’t make him stupid

limpid agate
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I uhh... Don't think y'all know what IQ is

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IQ = Brain Age / Actual Age

dry portal
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His voice lines show him being very polite to others

limpid agate
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In other words, the older you are, the lower your IQ

worthy rose
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Is Sigma the oldest character?

peak escarp
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yes

limpid agate
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If Sigma and Winston were equally intelligent, Winston would have double Sigma's IQ

worthy rose
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How old is Rein?

limpid agate
#

61

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Sigma is 62

worthy rose
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By one

peak escarp
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Ana is 60

limpid agate
#

Rein was also by one. Ana is 60

worthy rose
#

So Hammond is the youngest

peak escarp
#

Reaper is next oldest at 58

limpid agate
#

Orisa is 1 month old

worthy rose
#

Oh

limpid agate
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But she is also a machine

worthy rose
#

Yesh

limpid agate
#

Of living beings, Hammond is the youngest at 14

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Of the humans, D.Va is the youngest at 19

worthy rose
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Who is the youngest human character

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Oh

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Ofx

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C

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How old is Bastion?

limpid agate
#

30

worthy rose
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What about Hanzo

peak escarp
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38

worthy rose
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Genji?

dry portal
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Are him and Genji the same age or is Genji younger

peak escarp
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Genji is 35

worthy rose
#

I think genji younger

peak escarp
#

Zenyatta is 20

limpid agate
#

You can just check the hero pages yourself

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They're all there but Reaper

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And Soldier 76

worthy rose
#

Kuri, give me an estimtate of how old you think Soldier is

limpid agate
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Reaper is 58, Soldier 76 is... Approximately 57

worthy rose
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Oy

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You guys know way too much about this game

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I commend both of you

dry portal
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Ye

limpid agate
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Most of that shit is just

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!!loreHeroes

twilit nacelleBOT
#
peak escarp
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it's all there if you just care to look

worthy rose
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Ok

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Last question

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Have there been any leaks about a new character?

peak escarp
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nope

dry portal
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Not leaks only educated guesses

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Like Echo

peak escarp
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don't expect any for another month at least

limpid agate
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No leaks

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Leaks are rare

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The only hero who was ever leaked was Orisa.

worthy rose
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I would imagine

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I was searching and one article claimed about some friend of Baptiste

limpid agate
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Sombra's art was leaked before, but we already knew the hero would be Sombra.

worthy rose
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Mauga

limpid agate
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The Orisa leak said "Doomfist is a black guy" which we knew, and nothing more. DIdnt even say he would be a hero

dry portal
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Only known friends of Baptist’s are Mauga and Sombra

limpid agate
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And Ashe wasn't leaked.

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But people think she was

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Someone tried leaking Junkerqueen and accidentally got Ashe right.

worthy rose
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lol rip

peak escarp
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Sigma was supposed to be Mauga but they decided that the kit they had made didnt match Mauga's personality

worthy rose
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Yeah

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Mauga would not fit

peak escarp
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so they shelved Mauga and gave the kit to Sigma

worthy rose
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at all

peak escarp
#

Sigma's image leaked a few days before the teasers started

worthy rose
#

Who was the latest DPS to be released?

devout sable
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!!loreHeroes Ana

twilit nacelleBOT
peak escarp
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Ashe was the most recent Damage hero

devout sable
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@limpid agate can you force the command to always convert the input to lowercase?

peak escarp
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we've gotten one of each role every year

limpid agate
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I cannot

devout sable
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ow

limpid agate
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Its not my bot, and the same commands are used for other things as well

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But of the useful ones, the warnings that give pings wouldnt work with forced case

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Such as

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!!shitposting @limpid agate

twilit nacelleBOT
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@limpid agate Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

devout sable
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I mean convert the input to lowercase for the !!loreHeroes command specifically

limpid agate
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Yeah I cant

devout sable
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whose bot is it?

limpid agate
#

Dragory's.

frosty shell
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Gorillas age a little faster than humans though

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Junkrat might be smart but just impulsive and hyperactive and insane

worthy rose
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Winston's genetically engineered. Hammond is older than most hamsters and not visibly old though, so we can't really know how long Winston will live.

vast mango
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arent we due for another cinematic?

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would love another talon short that includes sigma

manic parcel
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I would love one too

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I really have been liking Sigma recently

worthy rose
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There should be a new hero and short at Blizzcon

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Echo seems to be the frontrunner.

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Some people say Mauga could also be it, but I don't see them making a whole new kit and all the requisite stuff for the gameplay side of the hero this quickly, when Sigma would've been Mauga if his gameplay fit.

timid eagle
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Lucio and Zenyatta lore, despite it becoming a running joke, is something I want to see.

peak escarp
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it's not based on anything other than the name of a cancelled Lego set

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but I think Lucio will get some soon

stark notch
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@peak escarp

peak escarp
#

@stark notch yes?

stark notch
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Is there any lore on sam

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Pharah's father

peak escarp
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he's a Canadian public servant with First Nations heritage

stark notch
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That i know

peak escarp
#

that's about it

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he's from the Pacific Northwest, so probably Vancouver

stark notch
#

Did they have a divorce?

peak escarp
#

we don't know if their marriage ended before Ana went MIA, or if Ana's "death" was what ended it

placid monolith
#

Ahhh, System Shock 3 is happening. I can only hope that SHODAN will inspire for a God Program into the story. ♥

limpid agate
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A SHODAN type character would be cool. One of my favourite AIs in all media.

placid monolith
#

Yeah, she's so good! Part of the reason I've been patiently waiting for more info on omnics and the things creating and controlling them during the war.

devout sable
#

I find Shodan a bit overrated myself

reef dagger
#

Can I just say...

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I really don't like Echo. Her sudden appearance at the end of Reunion feels poorly handled in my opinion

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I mean, I think one of the main things is that we don't have any information about her at all (other than she's Vishkar-branded...) so I have no reason to like her outside of purely her design

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And... I don't like her design

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My least favorite part is probably the hard-light face, it's just kind of... yugh... Not really consistent with the inhuman faces we've seen from Omnics thus fair.