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Reaper seems proud of Widowmaker when he tells Doomfist that she was responsible for killing Mondatta
I wonder if Reaper picked Widowmaker and Sombra for his team, or if they were assigned to him
it would make sense if he picked Widowmaker at least, considering their history
I wonder if the other Talon leaders go on field missions or have teams like that
Antonio, Vialli, Max, Sanjay? Not likely
Doomfist? Probably.
Max just brings an army with him, as seen in Storm Rising
Sanjay uses Vishkar agents like Symmetra, as seen in A Better World
afaik Symmetra isnt aware that Sanjay works for Talon
so he must not use her for Talon missions
Him and Symmetra were working on the Rio takeover
He deploys Symmetra to do the work for him
Hence: I don't think he would go into the field himself for a job
that was a Vishkar mission though
I'm just pointing out that he doesn't use Symmetra for Talon missions - he probably has actual Talon agents for that
Makes me wonder if the things Sanjay does, like the Rio incident, are somewhat backed by Talon
Maybe he led Vishkar away from a hypothetical original goal, to start controlling cities like that
I don't know
When did the null sector attack take place? Because in honour and glory Reinhardt looks young and then is suddenly old
In uprising
Cause Null sector is a modern terrorist group; Reinhardt's battle with the omnics in his cinematic short was during the omnic crisis which Null sector wasn't around for
We don't have actual dates to concretely put things into perspective
but we have a rough general timeline
iirc Overwatch as of rn takes place in the 2070's with uprising happening 6 years prior
@final compass the Omnic Crisis (the conflict depicted in Honor and Glory) began and ended around 30 years ago
King's Row Uprising is unrelated to it, and happened 7 years ago
How long has it been since Overwatch blew up?
~ 5-6 years
5 years since it was disbanded, 6 years since HQ explosion
iirc Overwatch as of rn takes place in the 2070's with uprising happening 6 years prior
We were explicitly told Uprising was 7 years ago
hold on, here's a timeline I put together
31* BR – omniums activate and launch a military assault against humanity, Omnic Crisis begins
29* BR – Overwatch Strike Team is assembled in secret
26* BR – omniums are pacified, Omnic Crisis ends, Overwatch becomes a public peacekeeping organization
23 BR – Operation: White Dome, Torbjorn loses his eye and arm, Brigitte is born
11* BR – Winston leaves the Horizon Lunar Colony and lands on Earth
9 BR – Mei and her team enter cryostasis
8 BR – Tracer's accident, the Venice incident, Blackwatch is revealed
7 BR – Amelie kidnapped, Gerard assassinated, the Cairo incident, King's Row Uprising
6 BR – Reinhardt forced to retire following an incident, Ana presumed dead, McCree leaves, Maximilien captured (Storm Rising), Doomfist captured, Overwatch HQ explosion, Morrison and Reyes presumed dead
5 BR – Petras Act is passed, Overwatch is disbanded
4 BR – Baptiste defects from Talon
BR is short for "before Recall"
and * are speculative
Hmm.. That'd mean Reinhardt and Ana would both be alive in our current year.
how old are Morrison and Reyes?
Late 50's, I think
No, I meant in 2019
Also Torb and Sigma
Yeh, the whole Team Grangran
Hello, can someone explain to me the “story mode” on overwatch
Is it even possible to do it anymore
Idk someone said there was a story mode
There isn't
There is a PvE event in April
Oh
That takes place in the past
I didn't remember the exact timeline of things
But it's not story mode
Ok
What has Lúcio got to do with overwatch? I swear he is not related to it in any way
But he’s cool
he's an enemy of Vishkar, which has ties to Lumerico and Talon (both through Sanjay)
several heroes aren't connected to Overwatch - D.Va, Roadhog, Junkrat, Zarya, Symmetra, Hanzo, Ashe
Hanzo sort of is... through genji
kinda
Ashe is connected through McCree
Zarya is connected to Talon by being an enemy of Sombra
that's a big stretch
I made a relationship web a while ago
haven't updated it for Sigma
What do the dots mean?
dotted lines mean connections that are theorized but not confirmed
Ok
I'm going to have to rearrange things to get Sigma in there - he's a current Talon member with a theorized connection to Horizon Lunar Colony
Ok
I'm disappointed that Bastion doesn't have "family" lines at Torb and Brig.
Lol
They were clearly adopted into it.
I put "it's complicated"
What's complicated about Reaper and Widowmaker?
she's his dead best friend's widow and murderer
plus we don't know if they consider each other friends or what
I see
Indifference, probably.
@peak escarp already mentioned it earlier, but I think I'd draw a "it's complicated" line between Doomfist and Maximilien too
given that there's a certain, uh, dynamic going on there
especially if Doomfist is/ever becomes aware that Maximilien was the one to sell him out
why? Max giving up Doomfist's location was just business, and Doomfist either doesn't know it was him or doesn't care (or does know and chooses not to do anything about it)
if they show any overt tension between them then I'd consider it, but for now they're on good terms
not sure if I'd describe it that way
Are you allowed to ship characters here
Just asking
I need to get aquanted with the server
if it's not something hinted at, then it's not worth discussing
About when did Moira get offered a place in Oasis?
Did she leave Overwatch when it was disbanded, or before then?
Resources tell me that she was invited to Oasis after Overwatch as a whole was disbanded, so I guess she might have still been a member after the Venice Incident?
What she did afterward until Overwatch disbanded, I don't know.
Still very questionable about why Reaper brought her in unless he had some sort of condition
Cause Genji and McCree make some sense; combatants who were on the wrong side of the law who had done wrong and needed to be put on the straight and narrow
Moira was already around Reaper's age so why a geneticist of all things
he brought her in because he was having genetics issues
probably related to his SEP conditioning
Yea but if that were an issue we'd suspect jack to be the same way which leads me to believe there was something else wrong with him but I digress
Maybe a minor condition that reacted poorly to the SEP treatment.
maybe they didnt react to it the same way due to their original genetics
Jack and Gabe have different genotypes
Of course, but you'd think that having more than just a few soldiers would reveal any problems with fairly common genes.
I thought Moira joined Reaper because she wouldn’t have her work stifled?
Jack got the dominant genes while Gabe got all the recessive ones. I think OW just had a focus on research and development and Moira could use a proper supervised lab.
maybe other SEP Soldiers also had complications, and Jack is the weird one for not having any
a sample size of 2 isn't much to go on
Could be.
I’m so glad Mercy and Genji are heavily teased
Overwatch were the ones who shut down Moira's research - Gabe went behind their backs to hire her into Blackwatch
Sanjay is Symmetra's handler/boss in Vishkar
and yeah, Sigma isn't there by choice
Talon "rescued" him from the government facility that was keeping him and put him in a lab so he could continue his work
he's still a prisoner, just in a different place
this guy is Sanjay
It’s possible jack does have a condition from the SEP we don’t know about
@peak escarp who was that armored dude shown in the background, anyway?
was that Sigma?
or maybe a Talon trooper?
Where?
pretty sure that was confirmed to just be a talon trooper
O
I thought it was a hero teaser. Ended up being a Retribution teaser
I thought Baptistes skin would be like that but the one we have is still good
And I want it but didn’t get it
uh, yeah im glad baptiste's talon skin isnt just a faceless talon trooper
no way they would have done that
I kinda like the sort of helmet Sigma got
it's faceless in an interesting way
baptiste's visible face isnt the only thing thats personalizing that skin
what i meant to say was im glad that skin isnt straight up just the talon trooper model with baptiste's default head model slapped on top of it
Short Stories:
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
News Reports:
Fading Glory; Jack Morrison: http://bit.ly/2f9TPq4
Experimental Weapon Stolen: http://bit.ly/2fMrKsj
Lucio's Synaesthesia World Tour: http://bit.ly/2flja2U
LumériCo: http://bit.ly/1XAJfd1
Overwatch is Back: http://bit.ly/1TAWebT
LumériCo Revealed: http://bit.ly/2e6P5oj
Portero Steps Down: http://bit.ly/2fk8Bes
Efi Oladele Interview: http://bit.ly/2miMZkT
Horizon Lunar Colony: http://bit.ly/2reMSKx
Attack on Helix: http://bit.ly/2tn45mk
Oslo Attack: https://bit.ly/2uHKXUr
Don Rumbotico: https://bit.ly/2VtzZKX
Documents:
Mei's Adventure: http://bit.ly/2fMxRg4
Torb's Letter: http://bit.ly/2HK4CWa
Venice Declassified: https://bit.ly/2Hs807B
Cuerva: https://bit.ly/2BHEqd9
Travel Guides:
Oasis: http://bit.ly/2iPTM4K
Paris: https://bit.ly/2GEyOoq
It's at the top
Thank you
About Oasis...
Why are the Ministry of Biology and the Ministry of Genetics different?
I can't really think of too many situations where genetics doesn't cross into biology
Genetics is a specific field of Biology
Precisely.
I just mean, you can do biology without dealing with genetics, but you can't do genetics without dealing with biology
I don't see a Ministry of Biology listed
nvm found it
maybe they decided Genetics was a significant enough field to require its own ministry
Probably same reason forensics has those two separated, too
We usually have forensic biology and forensic genetics
Because there are some situations (crime solving for example, but for OW it'd be other stuff) in which you can delve REALLY deeply into genetics, whereas the other areas of biology can be grouped up as one
What do we know about God programs other than they take over omnics?
Anubis is the only one we know of
Hm.. Was afraid of that
it was shut down and quarantined by Overwatch, which caused massive economical instability in Cairo (Anubis was probably connected to their infrastructure somehow)
I hope they become relevant in the lore at some point
I don't think they're that important
They have story potential
aight ama head out
Is there a name for the equipment Moira wears? Like the pack?
no i dont see or recall anything about it.
check the pins
if you have specific questions we can help, but if you just want to know stuff, read/watch what's listed there
sombras conspiracy?
Sombra thinks there's someone/something running the world, pulling the strings behind every major group
I wonder if Moira is left-handed
It'd require careful inspection of animations, methinks
But, given the state her right hand is in, the left hand would presumably be more dexterous
I don't think most people would experiment on their dominant hand
so she's probably a leftie
Yeah, that's exactly what I was about to say
Sombra too - she hacks with her left, and her grip with her right hand is shaky
Because ordinarily, you do injections on the left arm
But, she intentionally chose to experiment on the right arm.
The Shadow (something) Omnium
The Shadow of the Omnium
Does Storm Rising lead to Doomfist’s first capture or is it ‘present day’ trying to thwart him again?
Storm Rising leads to Doomfists first capture
do you guys think we will ever see a polish character be introduced?
probably because they make charecters from all places
Probably not anytime soon
I know people say Lucio’s dad made his sonic amp but I can’t find the source of that
His bio says he stole the tech from Vishkar
Mercy: Lúcio, I never realized your father was the one who invented Vishkar's sonic technology.
Ah rad
it's from an in-game interaction
👍
Lucio's father was a Vishkar employee
Probably most of Brazil at the time
I wish we got more about Vishkar/Sanjay
how so?
We still have Blizzcon before 2020, and that's a huge event...
there's still 3.5 months left in 2019
"i guess blizzcon could be something" like its not the biggest event of the year for blizzard
and they say this year will be their biggest i heard
they could drop something at any moment
Blizzcon will bring something almost guaranteed
Well, yes, it's Blizzcon...
minimum expected is a new hero and animated short
if the ending of WYLB is any indication, Mercy will be featured next
no
yikes
what if the new bastion skin is canon ?
it isn't
northern sweden
How’d he manage to get there without being seen?
lego bastion was the prototype
Yes
Blizzard we have some ideas on the bastion models lore here for you to add in! Jk
no
Bastion has been wandering around for about 15 years without being seen
it probably sticks to the forests/wooded areas where people don't usually go
Zen will never have a lore cause they can’t find one
ok
I would at least like to see our cyberchip-monk calm down an edgy Genji
He doesn’t have much else cinematically interesting imo
So what do you guys thing about Sigma's lore?
It feels kind of weak atm but I’m sure it’ll be fleshed out
He only has average ties to Talon and not much else
Yea I feel like it would be a nice story but atleast we have a tank for Talon
yup
Heavy Assault with a shield 😬
Not to get into design but his outfits and character lines are pretty good.
I want an other junker tbh
We have 3 I’m good for at least a little longer
And D.Va and Bastion skins
They should add in a Brazil map
So we get more Lúcio/ Symmetra insight
Ikr we need another junker
how did roadhog and Junkrat even meet, I think I never saw that peace of lore
look up the comic "Wasted Land"
that's how they met
Junkers aren't very important to the story right now
maybe if they revisit them, then it'll be time for Junker Queen
Junkrat and Roadhog met relatively recently
probably less than a year before present day
Has the present day of Overwatch moved forward at the same rate as our time?
ik Orisa’s bio says 2 months but idk if that’s outdated or not
Masquerade (and Doomfist's escape) happens roughly a year after that
and then Orisa is created after that
so the present day lore we have spans about a year
I think most of the cinematics are present day as well
yes
Recall, Alive, Dragons, Hero, the parts of Honor and Glory with Brigitte, Rise and Shine, Infiltration, Shooting Star and Reunion are all present day
only The Last Bastion and the flashbacks in Recall, Honor and Glory and Rise and Shine are not present day
Oh when does Last Bastion take place?
Damn they built Numbani fast then
this timeline was shown at GDC 2017 during Michael Chu's talk about worldbuilding
Numbani was built after the crisis, which ended ~25 years ago
Right but it’s still a mega city in that time
In Africa too so all resources have a harder time getting there
Very spice
things have probably improved in the future
Yeah
it's a technologically advanced city
Yeah ik lol but it’s still pretty wild
Especially to have a 3 doomfist history and a museum it must have been built in an immediate reaction to housing Omnics
Similar to Junkertown probably
Right but much of the surrounding area was to be given as well
Numbani was a collaborative effort between humans and omnics to build a city of harmony
Yeah but in the beginning they likely had very similar purposes
To appease the post-war Omnics
Very interesting how much of it’s history does focus on humans alone though
tbh there’s probably going to be some event or character that stems from Russia’s Omnium
Unless it’s being directly controlled and not aimlessly spitting bots
Yeah it seems like a big deal that gets easily overlooked
But a decent twist would be that the Omnium is being run by Talon or some other shadow organization rather than the base AI
that would be forced
Or whatever program caused the war to begin with
Possibly but Talon does want war and may further explain why Volskaya was at odds with Talon
Volskaya is at odds with Talon because she won't join them
To the point of sending an elite ops assassination though?
Eh whatever Vialli made some bad decisions anyways
Yeah ik I just hope there’s something deeper there
Cause right now Zarya’s only link to the rest of the gang hangs on ‘Talon leader throwing tantrum’
there's a few heroes who have little or no link to the main story
Zarya, Lucio, Symmetra, Hanzo, Zenyatta, D.Va
Road and Junk
I think Symmetra is a bit closer
she's one degree removed
Wrecking Ball’s out there too
All the junker’s and no one needs them
Honestly a lot of them are just side characters made to flesh out a vanilla who hasn’t seen as much
yeah
Like Brigitte for Rein
WB for Winston
Ashe for McDaddy
Sigma is at least independent to an extent but he seems rather sudden
Baptiste is actually quite nice since he came in a bit more fleshed out
he was a sudden character
Yeye
they were originally making Mauga, but changed their mind mid-development
He’s also hard to pin down in conversation since muh, black hole got my brain
So it’s difficult to extract much about his character(s)
Also they work on like 3 or 4 characters at a time I think
yep
Mauga absolutely seems like the most playable of the absent roster though
Followed by mock-Athena
Echo
Ah yes I forgot
she's the favourite to be released at Blizzcon
Very likely as it’s “the biggest BlizzCon yet”
Or they just tease Overwatch 2 officially
What else would they do?
Yeah, a large expansion would be great
But I'm not gonna get my hopes up to be disappointed
not an expansion, a separate game
I’ve heard it’s currently styled like l4d
They could do whatever
I'd play it, whatever it is, but they've done most other types of games.
So similar to the archives event
I wonder if they would keep the archives or migrate them after
nvm I kinda blanked on all the loot that comes with
Still would be cool to see a new event though
But maybe not economical
Would be nice to keep historical free Archives events in parallel to present day plot relevant campaign
Nothing is confirmed
Aight cool
But a hypothetical story based game could have that as an opening mission, I'd think
Then jump to present day
There’s a little less to do in modern day honestly
And I’m imagining that each map would have a reason or at least significance like in Overwatch
Probably more so in the new one
there's a lot they could do in modern day
they could give us missions we haven't heard of yet
omnic crisis missions would require changes to certain heroes' kits (which wouldn't be an issue in a separate game)
I just think the Omnics would make for a good, consistent enemy throughout each level
I wouldn't mind it working off the current game but with a small amount of customization exclusive to the story
For each hero
Yeah but it would complicate what I’m hoping is a mix of linear story and online quick play
Nothing wrong with swapping viewpoints but one group wouldn’t fight both sides
And I would like to group up with randoms without being limited in character choice
if it's anything like current Archives missions, you'll be restricted to 4 (maybe more) heroes
Ye
When is Blizzcon again
November 1st
most people are wanting to see what happens in the future of the ow timeline, we’ve had a lot of the crisis stuff
i want to finally see ow vs talon develop and how the other heroes will fit into the story
I'm eager for anything, but I want to see plot progression most of all
Sigma in lore: V I O L E N C E
Sigma in game: Ah, bedankt! :)
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sigma in game: would you like to go to luna's cabaret with me? 🙂
Yes, some plot progression would be cool
It doesn't even have to be the progression of the general plot, just continuation of some tidbits of the characters
Plot Progression is likely being saved for OW 2
Like Reaper and that family he was stalking at Christmas
I would like to see a symmetra origin
How about we just remove symm
Her beam was just nerfed, though. Now for more strategic teleportation and sentry tactics (bombing, nesting)
sigmas feet is endgame boss
@worthy rose Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
oh ok
Symmetra was a poor kid but was able to pass some sort of aptitude test for hard light manipulation and left down the path to Vishkar and where she is today
Doesn’t seem like she regrets leaving either
she was plucked out of poverty
Right
I don't think anyone regrets leaving poverty
she might not have any
I was about to say that lol
the status of her family isn't mentioned anywhere
unlike Mercy, Sombra and Baptiste, who are specifically listed as orphans of the crisis
Yeah she could have been an orphan it’s unclear
why does zarya hate torbjorn so much?
for the love of christ she hates like everyone except for rein
in voicelines she says numerous things like "that is for the suffering of my people"
??
not to mention, even his interactions with bastion are some times aggressive and sometimes passive aggressive
Torb doesn't like omnics
while also being partially responsible for the creation of some of the more deadly omnics
alright, because his voiceline response to zaryas is "dont remind me"
yea he said something about him having a system check
it's like being mad at Henry Ford because your family got run over by a truck
so Zarya dislikes Torbjorn for his part in creating the omnics (she's currently at war with them)
Or she just hates small people
I doubt that's it
hey I'm a bit new where might I find the lore and stuff is there like comic books or a youtube series?
@orchid raft Pins
thanks
Zarya along with most of russia has a hatred for omnics
Wait... So Ashe and McCree never dated, I know that but... Why does Ashe keep a photo of McCree and her on her bike ? Like, why is everybody else torn out of that picture ?
they never dated and McCree doesn't have feelings for her . . . but it seems like she has feelings for him
unrequited love
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Could just be so she has someone to always hate
Was ‘the plan’ actually part of the story or was it just a little cinematic to introduce Junkertown and why your pushing the payload?
I believe it's something that actually happened
Junkrat and Roadhog did go on a global heist spree to collect money and valuables
so it's both
it would be interesting
@pliant sparrow that would be weird considering Ashe's backstory. I can tell you : most people who did stupid shit in the past just to get attention won't ever need anything reminding them to hate something or somebody.
Whenever I received class photos I just stabbed out the faces of those who I deeply hated. That was hate enough, wouldn't want to keep something that makes you mad, would you ?
that's the point - she kept it because she liked him
if she truly hated him, she would have destroyed the picture and anything that reminded her of him
hi so i was playing in nepal the other day and zen goes "it is good to return, though I wonder if I am still welcome here" or something like that. i dont think the dev/creators mentioned anything about zen's past except being part of the shambali and guiding genji so lets talk about that
ive actually heard this a bunch of times before but i never truly realized what he said whoOps
Zenyatta left the Shambali because he disagreed with Mondatta on how they should spread the message of equality
That's weird, If I remember correctly, Zenyatta was seen in Nepal in one of the comics. Maybe it's got something to do with Mondatta ?
Mondatta wanted to stay in the monastery and preach from there
Zenyatta wanted to go out and be among the people
in his bio
But one monk, Zenyatta, disagreed with this new direction. He believed that the way to repair the problems between humans and omnics was not through dogmatic teaching but through interpersonal connection and engagement.```
why did he leave the whole shambali because of mondatta tho
not specifically because of Mondatta
but Mondatta was their leader, so he decided what direction they would take
and Zenyatta disagreed with that direction
also
Zenyatta and Genji live in the village below the monastery
Genji's room can be seen on the Nepal Village map
it's above/behind the objective
you can see a photo of Hanzo and Genji, and a Japanese painting
that's a really cool easter egg
whats your guys's favorite character based on personality/lore/back ground
a good amount of ppl ik have said mercy. personally i really like mercy too but there isnt much lore to really like her for is there?
as u can tell i dont know much about the character's bgs lol
basically im asking what do you like abt mercy
there's a fair amount, but it's mostly buried in lore for other heroes
I like how she's the only one who thinks Overwatch coming back is a bad idea
doesnt soldier also go against the idea of bring back overwatch
Ish
in gibraltar does he say somehting like "bring back ow, whats the point"
idk i always tend to miss interactions/voice lines
He’s more “it’s shut down. Im gonna take vengeance on everyone who brought it down” and doesn’t necessarily want it to come back. He’s sort of a man on a mission of vengeance no longer caring about it’s return
Like if you ask me, I dont think he cares much if it returns or not. He’s taking down those who wronged the organization and that’s about it
ohhh
okayyy
yea i get it now
so what abt you @worthy rose
whos youre favorite character based off lore
your*
Sombra lore wise cause she hints at something more and also if something is amiss she usually has a hand in it
I love the conspiracy and am very intrigued how they write it out more and I have a couple of theories but none of them have any actual proof
Like why reaper turned to Talon
Thats the only one I really have thought about the others are less so impressive as I havent formulated the motivations
thats cool
how did bastion get recruited to overwatch?
read the comic "Binary"
it's implied that afterwards, Torbjorn brings it to Overwatch
it hasn't been confirmed that Bastion joins new Overwatch, but the Blizzard World trailer and the blurb on the back of the comic anthology imply that it does
when will the next animated short come out damn
Blizzcon?
Blizzcon the latest
hopefully a long one
Would be nice if they have another beforehand
But unlikely. The only real event I can see it happening is OWL finals
they could surprise everyone and drop a short without an event
like they do with the short stories (and used to with the comics)
which character is most likely to get a short next?
probably Mercy and Baptiste
perhaps mercy?
he was going to see her to warn her that Talon knows the locations of former Overwatch agents
i would lowkey like to see a scientist short with their experiments
Their?
like Rise and Shine?
Is they plural or singular in this context?
i guess moira
Mercy and Moira didn't work together
Not as far as we know
And they didnt really have reason to either
Nor would they have gotten along
i meant an animated short 😦
I'd say he is the most likely after Mercy
We have a hint as to his Recall answer
We have nothing about Mercy
did we get confirmation about who the omnic that McCree saved is? I havent caught up to the story in a long time
it doesn't have to be in a short, but I'd like to see the other heroes' reactions to Torbjorn showing up with a bastion unit
Reinhardt's reaction in particular
but I think if Torbjorn is cool with it, Reinhardt would trust him
I want an explanation of the second omnic crisis, an explanation for Echo, more queer characters revealed and more relationships in general revealed. character development matters to me more than the overall plot but the first question feels way too important to leave unanswered for a long period of time
what's there to explain? omnics in Siberia are attacking Russian forces, Katya Volskaya is secretly receiving tech from an omnic informant
orientations and relationships are low on the priority list
I would like blizzard to make a movie... but considering the flop that warcraft became.. i dont think it would work out either
Echo you'll probably get an explanation for pretty soon, since she's the most likely to be the hero announced at Blizzcon
Second Omnic Crisis
What Dr6 said. Omnics woke back up as mysteriously as the first time, and Katya is supplying the war with Numbani tech. (Also wroth noting that the Russian Omnium was one of the ones not shut down by Overwatch)
Echo
This will come when she becomes a hero, most likely this year Blizzcon.
More LGBT characters
For what purpose?
More relationships
For watch purpose?
Most heroes have no reason to be in a present day relationship. I am surprised Reaper even had a family
Like, take Doomfist.
his family was probably during the Golden Age of Overwatch, back when things were a little more settled
Him having a relationship probably wouldn't mean much. I can only see it being important to either show:
A: He is willing (or unwilling) to sacrifice his own family for his goal
B: He is grooming an heir
(which also means any children he had would probably have inherited his SEP genetics but not whatever Moira did to him)
Is what its speculated to be
The mathematical concept of the universe as a form of music
apparently, recent studies into black holes have detected certain tones/sounds that come from black holes
I don't think they knew about this when designing Sigma, but it's still interesting
That's neat
like I said, this is just what I personally want. I didn't realise the second crisis was so similar to the first, so apologies, but in that case I want an explanation for the omnics 'going rogue' per se in general, and an explanation for the god programs. I want LGBT characters cuz I like having them and I want relationships (friendships, family, not just romantic if that was what it looked like) because they're more interesting to read about than reading about a robot war. like, shorts and comics about character development. just my opinion
understandable
unfortunately they haven't explained why the omnics went rogue - I feel like they'll save that for a major lore event, along with what happened between Jack and Gabe in the Swiss HQ
"god programs" really just refers to Anubis
Personally, I do not find character relationships interesting, and think they generally detract unless they have some importance.
LGBT or not
Widow's, Ana's, and Torb's are relevant because they are core to the origins of Widowmaker, Pharah, and Brigitte.
Soldier's and Reaper's are not, they just exist as another layer of contrast between the two characters.
Tracer's is not, but she's the protagonist so she gets a pass.
Tracer is the protagonist?
More or less
I thought it was Soldier or Winston
I suppose the difference between us is that I like the smaller details, and you prefer the wider image
haha fair enough
So if I asked you guys the lore of a character, would you know?
if it's available
those two are experts
Give me Reinhardt
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/reinhardt#story
I thought you knew it by memory
I do
i dissapointngbc
I do, but it's easier to link you to his bio than to write it all out
Who founded Talon?
Hmm
the bio doesn't mention how Reinhardt saved Torbjorn's life 23 years ago, which earned him the privilege of naming Torbjorn's youngest daughter
What characters have a romantic relationship with each other?
That's suprising
it's not a dating sim
I know
But I thought it would have been cool
Them interacting with each other in game
the only heroes currently in a romantic relationship are Torbjorn and Tracer
i thought soldier and ana had one
Soldier is gay and Ana was married
Soldier is gay and has been single for the past 30 years. Ana was married for ~30 years until she faked her own death 6 years ago.
Thanks for all the messages about “Bastet”!
Jack and Vincent were in a romantic relationship many years ago. Both identify as gay. ❤️
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Soldier 76 and Tracer are the only gay heroes we know of. Widowmaker, Ana, Torbjorn, and Reaper are all more or less straight.
Well
Guillermo Portero, the antagonist of the Sombra ARG, is also gay.
Widowmaker, Ana, Torbjorn, and Reaper are all more or less straight.
No
he's still human
he can just discorporate his body into a cloud of cells and recorporate somewhere else
His body is just corpselike now.
He a cool guy
He's still human, just with revolting superpowers
Closest comparison is probably Deadpool.
Deadpool isn't a demon, its just a human with mutant powers. But he looks like he should be dead
Is Ashe related to McCree? I know they were in the same gang
they were founders of the Deadlock Gang
They are not related
But its suggested Ashe has/had a crush on him.
McCree isn't interested
Ok
Ashe seems to have unresolved feelings towards him
!!loreHeroes wrecking-ball
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/wrecking-ball#story
he's a genetically enhanced hamster that escaped the moon and crash landed in the Australian outback
Animated Shorts:
Cinematic Trailer: http://bit.ly/1yhzaCC
Recall: http://bit.ly/1T1Aky8
Alive: http://bit.ly/1PSJV5x
Dragons: http://bit.ly/1WAZs3c
Hero: http://bit.ly/1ToCD1E
The Last Bastion: http://bit.ly/2b3TsNN
Infiltration: http://bit.ly/2emetBC
Rise and Shine: http://bit.ly/2xcMYoH
Honor and Glory: http://bit.ly/2A4FxRa
Shooting Star: https://bit.ly/2MCgtuP
Reunion: https://bit.ly/2AJhhHo
Origin Trailers:
Tracer: http://bit.ly/2fDNQxI
Soldier 76: http://bit.ly/1FpWpDB
Ana: http://bit.ly/29zamjl
Sombra: http://bit.ly/2fMt3aJ
Orisa: http://bit.ly/2liKFy8
King's Row Uprising: http://bit.ly/2p2pukK
Doomfist: http://bit.ly/2tWoWzZ
Moira: http://bit.ly/2hF7GXZ
Brigitte: http://bit.ly/2GSto50
Hammond: https://bit.ly/2lKVlU9
Ashe: https://bit.ly/2F2SPor
Baptiste: https://bit.ly/2TeM1Kq
Sigma: https://bit.ly/2JJTVWE
Other Videos:
A Moment in Crime - Junkers: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Are You With Us?: http://bit.ly/2fle4Uw
We Are Overwatch: http://bit.ly/1Pd9XmJ
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
Retribution: https://bit.ly/2MLHf44
Roadtrip: https://bit.ly/2RLk08M
Storm Rising: https://bit.ly/2MLHkEU
he has since left Junkertown and now wanders the world looking for adventure
meanie?
Hammond was out of his cage, lost somewhere on the colony - Winston wasn't going to waste time finding him while he was building his capsule to escape
maybe he will
i hope so
he needed money to fix up his mech first - that's why he fought in the Scrap Yard
Winston's certainly famous enough that Hammond would have heard about him
Did Hammond ever encounter Junkrat or Road while in Australia?
the guy sitting next to Junkrat is Bruce, Roadhog's friend from "Wasted Land"
If you want more attention to detail
^ and also
Hammond built Wrecking Ball in Bruce's garage.
Who the hell is Bruce
Roadhog's friend from "Wasted Land"
!!loreComics
Comics:
Train Hopper: https://bit.ly/2vaOY0I
Dragon Slayer: https://bit.ly/2GpRZRk
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
A Better World: https://bit.ly/2DeJGpK
Mission Statement: https://bit.ly/2UFLC5o
Destroyer: https://bit.ly/2XcYZ9G
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Junkenstein: https://bit.ly/2Is3WZ4
Reflections: https://bit.ly/2IoZQkr
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Uprising: https://bit.ly/2UCymhE
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
Searching: https://bit.ly/2Gh3jy6
Retribution: https://bit.ly/2XePmHG
Mini-Comics:
Return of Junkenstein: https://bit.ly/2Gqp7Z8
Yeti Hunt: https://bit.ly/2VPmxRI
So was Bruce part of the coalition aswell I assume
Why does Reaper hate Soldier?
this spot can be found on the map
Doctor can go into more detail
Reaper doesn't hate Soldier for taking the leadership of Overwatch
No
he was happy to not be in charge
That's not why
Why does he then
The division started with Retribution
Gabe didn't want the responsibility
And built up to the Swiss HQ incident
Who started the whole war? Talon?
they started to lose trust between each other, and Jack got stressed from having to cover for Reyes and Blackwatch
Antonio
Yeah him
Quick fire round
it was the Venice Incident (Retribution) that started the fall of Overwatch
Why does Doomfist have a metal arm?
he killed the previous Doomfist and took the gauntlet for himself
If you mean the gauntlet it’s a weapon
Are Junkrat and Roadhog brothers?
no
Best friends?
Ye basically
So Junkrat is the mastermind
Read there comic for more info
and Road's the lackey
yep
Did they find it?
Maybe it was all a ruse
it could be knowledge
he's an idiot savant
Whaaaa
He created a remote explosive tire and land mines
That takes some engineering skill
I honestly just want more lore on Sigma
Yeah junkrat probably fits in that category well
Yesh
Did he make his prosthetics himself?
Junkrat made his everything himself
Damn that’s impressive
Who is the smartest of all the characters?
Debatable
A lot of contenders
Just like pure intelligence or?
Yes
Engineering?
IQ
Literature?
Who has the highest
If it's engineering, I would say Symmetra
He's only 14
She made that big ass wall
Either Winston or Sigma asa guess
He’s insane but that doesn’t make him stupid
His voice lines show him being very polite to others
In other words, the older you are, the lower your IQ
Is Sigma the oldest character?
yes
If Sigma and Winston were equally intelligent, Winston would have double Sigma's IQ
How old is Rein?
By one
Ana is 60
Rein was also by one. Ana is 60
So Hammond is the youngest
Reaper is next oldest at 58
Orisa is 1 month old
Oh
But she is also a machine
Yesh
Of living beings, Hammond is the youngest at 14
Of the humans, D.Va is the youngest at 19
30
What about Hanzo
38
Genji?
Are him and Genji the same age or is Genji younger
Genji is 35
I think genji younger
Zenyatta is 20
You can just check the hero pages yourself
They're all there but Reaper
And Soldier 76
Kuri, give me an estimtate of how old you think Soldier is
Reaper is 58, Soldier 76 is... Approximately 57
Ye
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/#story
it's all there if you just care to look
nope
don't expect any for another month at least
I would imagine
I was searching and one article claimed about some friend of Baptiste
Sombra's art was leaked before, but we already knew the hero would be Sombra.
Mauga
The Orisa leak said "Doomfist is a black guy" which we knew, and nothing more. DIdnt even say he would be a hero
Only known friends of Baptist’s are Mauga and Sombra
And Ashe wasn't leaked.
But people think she was
Someone tried leaking Junkerqueen and accidentally got Ashe right.
lol rip
Sigma was supposed to be Mauga but they decided that the kit they had made didnt match Mauga's personality
so they shelved Mauga and gave the kit to Sigma
at all
Sigma's image leaked a few days before the teasers started
Who was the latest DPS to be released?
!!loreHeroes Ana
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/Ana#story
Ashe was the most recent Damage hero
@limpid agate can you force the command to always convert the input to lowercase?
we've gotten one of each role every year
I cannot
ow
Its not my bot, and the same commands are used for other things as well
Most of them are shitposts and memes for #general-discussion probably.
But of the useful ones, the warnings that give pings wouldnt work with forced case
Such as
!!shitposting @limpid agate
@limpid agate Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
I mean convert the input to lowercase for the !!loreHeroes command specifically
Yeah I cant
whose bot is it?
Dragory's.
Gorillas age a little faster than humans though
Junkrat might be smart but just impulsive and hyperactive and insane
Winston's genetically engineered. Hammond is older than most hamsters and not visibly old though, so we can't really know how long Winston will live.
arent we due for another cinematic?
would love another talon short that includes sigma
There should be a new hero and short at Blizzcon
Echo seems to be the frontrunner.
Some people say Mauga could also be it, but I don't see them making a whole new kit and all the requisite stuff for the gameplay side of the hero this quickly, when Sigma would've been Mauga if his gameplay fit.
Lucio and Zenyatta lore, despite it becoming a running joke, is something I want to see.
it's not based on anything other than the name of a cancelled Lego set
but I think Lucio will get some soon
@peak escarp
@stark notch yes?
he's a Canadian public servant with First Nations heritage
That i know
Did they have a divorce?
we don't know if their marriage ended before Ana went MIA, or if Ana's "death" was what ended it
Ahhh, System Shock 3 is happening. I can only hope that SHODAN will inspire for a God Program into the story. ♥
A SHODAN type character would be cool. One of my favourite AIs in all media.
Yeah, she's so good! Part of the reason I've been patiently waiting for more info on omnics and the things creating and controlling them during the war.
I find Shodan a bit overrated myself
Can I just say...
I really don't like Echo. Her sudden appearance at the end of Reunion feels poorly handled in my opinion
I mean, I think one of the main things is that we don't have any information about her at all (other than she's Vishkar-branded...) so I have no reason to like her outside of purely her design
And... I don't like her design
My least favorite part is probably the hard-light face, it's just kind of... yugh... Not really consistent with the inhuman faces we've seen from Omnics thus fair.
I mean, I would think whatever this is, is a better design overall https://pm1.narvii.com/6386/f73c110c86208b6807e97fd82b92545629c8cb67_hq.jpg