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#lore-discussion
devout sable
pliant sparrow
Most boring now I would say mercy
She hasn’t got anything that really stands out about her lore-wise to me
worthy rose
I like Mercy because of the Halloween Terror to be honest
I think it's a cool setting and Witch Mercy is the best skin in the game
I wouldn't mind seeing a continuation of that event this year
worthy rose
That's a shame
Maybe they could make a new comic or short story
I remember one year they made another comic for that event
Even if the event remained the same
sly heath
GIVE BOB LORE
sonic urchin
BOB
ripe topaz
yeah
dry portal
So over the next coming days I’m gonna start creating a tierlist of the current 31 heroes of who is the canonically the strongest hero using gear abilities versatility feats etc
Im probably gonna need help from people to judge the ranks and find out what should and shouldn’t count
lament prawn
it'd be a little hard to judge especially with people having different opinions
not to mention some abilities we dont even know whether or not they're canon
and for those that are, we dont know the full extent
maybe sigma is using all his strength to pick up rocks, or maybe he has the ability to pick up vehicles and toss them around and shatter buildings with a wave of his hand
worthy rose
It's difficult to give a particular spot to just one character
For example, in my opinion Reaper, Zarya, and Doomfist should all share number 1
devout sable
there's too many factors
like, Sigma isn't the strongest physically
but he's definitely one of the most powerful heroes
worthy rose
Also, how can you rank heroes like Zenyatta or Lucio? We've seen nothing from them in the lore
urban sedge
Talon literally broke him out of a high security facility to use him as a weapon
dry portal
The list was basically gonna calculate everything we’ve seen from the hero both in canon and what they can do
devout sable
in terms of pure physical strength, the strongest are Doomfist, Zarya, Orisa, and Winston
a level below that, Soldier, Reaper, and Roadhog
urban sedge
Where are you getting that from
worthy rose
With all abilities included Reaper is definitely top 3 at the very least
devout sable
@urban sedge oh, it's not official info
but I'm thinking of all the times someone performed feats of extraordinary strength
as well as the arm-wrestling sprays
urban sedge
Orisa tho? Because of her shift?
dry portal
Yeah the list was gonna be everything they have and have seen done
For example soldier would have all gear and genetic enhancements
I ofc wasn’t thinking this was gonna be done quickly I was expecting maybe a few days at a time
The list would be from S to E
And we’d probably do it one hero at a time
devout sable
and OR units have already shown themselves capable of stopping a charging Crusader
still no idea why they didn't fortify when fighting against Doomfist
lament prawn
probably same reason tracer didnt recall
dude's mind is stronger than his fist
also it had to be part of the story, and the shot of that OR unit smashed against the wall is amazing
lament prawn
well this whole mess is doomfist's doing
but they "didnt stand a chance" so im guessing there wasnt much of a fight
devout sable
what?
no, you've got it mixed up
Winston, Tracer, and Genji fought Doomfist before Overwatch fell, right after Storm Rising
and that was when Doomfist was captured
while the OR15 program was only launched recently
and he fought the OR15s after he broke out of prison
dry portal
Oh ok
peak escarp
maybe the OR15s didnt have fortify
devout sable
I mean, why wouldn't they
peak escarp
the OR14s version of fortify was just planting its feet against a charge - maybe the OR15's 'fortify' wasn't strong enough to stop Doomfist
devout sable
are there other versions
peak escarp
Orisa's
devout sable
?
peak escarp
she also just plants her feet, as seen in the image posted above
dry portal
*what
peak escarp
anyway
devout sable
the thing is, Orisa fortifies the same way OR14s did, so I'd think that OR15s also had that feature
peak escarp
the simplest answer is that they did fortify and it didnt work
pliant sparrow
Very possible that fortify was upgraded by efi
dusty basalt
thats what i was thinking
stark notch
Where can u find the full lore or like a timeline of it, idk anything
worthy rose
...
dry portal
I’m pretty sure you can find a simple explanation on a YT video or such but if you’re looking for deep lore you can @ Doctor_Six
He has links to a lot of lore
worthy rose
Doctor_Six made a timeline on reddit if I'm not mistaken
dry portal
Even better
pliant sparrow
Doctor_Six = The saviour
iron plume
He has links
she
dusty basalt
cringe
dry portal
very
pliant sparrow
Orisa is 3 months old right?
dry portal
Are u meaning like ingame time or real life time
iron plume
referring to the person correctly is cringe, apparently
and yes, lorewise she's around that
iron plume
!!shitposting @dry portal
twilit nacelleBOT
@dry portal Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
iron plume
although the specific age depends on how much time has passed since
(thank you captain obvious)
she's under one, that's about that
pliant sparrow
So genji was in numbani at some point in the past three months since he’s seen orisa before?
stark notch
Who else did doomfist fight and win
pliant sparrow
Doom technically beat tracer and genji
pliant sparrow
was about to say #2
stark notch
Whats the lore behind zenyatta
dry portal
Not much yet but we know he’s one of the Shimbali
Which are Nepalian omnic Monks
We’re hoping to get more on him sometime but we know he helped in genjis recovery
And he’s 20
I think
pliant sparrow
Used to be one, he left them to teach his preferred way
dry portal
Ye
stark notch
And wb roadhog
pliant sparrow
He disagreed with the direction they were taking
Roadhog was a member of the Australian liberation front that blew up the omniumn that radiated the outback
iron plume
when did genji see orisa
dry portal
Roadhog was part of the Australian coalition trying to take omnics out of Australia but then they blew up the Omnium and it irradiated the outback
Then he found Junkrat in a bar after he was babbling about his treasure and he wanted a share of it
stark notch
So road was human?
dry portal
He is still
pliant sparrow
Still is
dusty basalt
he still is
worthy rose
I'm not sure what makes you think he's an alien but okay
dusty basalt
so many 'still is' lol
stark notch
Isn't he like a seal or smthg
pliant sparrow
The flask he has though counteracts radiation poisoning
dry portal
A what?
dusty basalt
seal?
dry portal
Why would he be a seal
pliant sparrow
Navy SEAL
stark notch
Cuz he looks like one
dusty basalt
out of all the animals you could say
pliant sparrow
Even though you have to be american to be one
dry portal
Like I’m confused to you mean Navy Seal or actual seal
stark notch
Animal seal
lavish solar
Navy SEALs are US military units, roadhog is from Australia
dry portal
No he’s a normal human
dusty basalt
he is a human with a weird love for pigs
stark notch
Sorry got confused with the fisherman skin
pliant sparrow
Roadhog is from new Zealand or australia
lavish solar
Fisherman skin is meant to be a walrus tho
dry portal
Ye
dusty basalt
skins are canon
stark notch
Same thing
dusty basalt
arent*
dry portal
Skins give some insight
pliant sparrow
Some are
dry portal
Like how Genji looked before being killed
dusty basalt
sometimes but its rare 😔
stark notch
Nani?
worthy rose
I really want to see an unmasked Reaper
dusty basalt
same
pliant sparrow
As in current?
dry portal
Ooooooo
stark notch
Doesn't reaper have an unmasked skin
dusty basalt
it be dope
pliant sparrow
Not a recent one
worthy rose
I was rereading that comic
dry portal
Idk if he’d look much different
stark notch
What's the difference between that and Current reaper?
dry portal
Maybe more scars like Soldier
worthy rose
And apparently he is so messed up that his face scared Ana
worthy rose
Lots of things happened to him after the Omnic Crisis
dry portal
True
worthy rose
He was twisted by Moira and almost killed in an incident
dry portal
He did learn how to control his powers better I assume
pliant sparrow
His current face is horribly mutilated
dry portal
In current day he can take out a mech by himself
pliant sparrow
At least I assume so
dusty basalt
is reaper mexican american?
dry portal
Yes
worthy rose
I wouldn't necessarily say he's horribly mutilated. But maybe he is infused with some weird energies
iron plume
ana is terrified of what she sees so it probably is
dry portal
Born in Los Angeles
worthy rose
Like red eyes maybe, and red glowing veins through his face
stark notch
Is moira mccrees mom?
pliant sparrow
No
dusty basalt
what
dry portal
No?
stark notch
I heard that in a voiceline
dusty basalt
they are like 10 years apart
iron plume
@worthy rose oh fuck i hope not
dry portal
McCree is an American bandit while Moira is a Irish geneticist
iron plume
...
pliant sparrow
Also moira would be an awful parent
iron plume
no he did not
pliant sparrow
“Mom come heal me”
dry portal
Moira would use her kid as experimental tools most likely
dusty basalt
yea
worthy rose
That's disturbing
stark notch
Yea he prolly said ma'am
pliant sparrow
”MOM I NEED HEALING”
dusty basalt
i havent played overwatch in a while but i hope for the sake of humanity thats not a thing
stark notch
Adio medic
dusty basalt
I find it weird that overwatch has another mad scienctist
dry portal
I like him more than Moira tbh
iron plume
moira isn't mad
stark notch
What is winston
dry portal
A scientist
dusty basalt
to experiment on yourself you have to be a bit mad
lament prawn
sigma
stark notch
Who's the other mad scientist
dusty basalt
Sigma and moira
dusty basalt
i dont like sigmas outfit but that hero trailer was amazing
true fulcrum
Moira isn't a mad scientist lol she's just not very empathic
dusty basalt
ok sorry this isnt very lore related on my behalf
stark notch
Moira is a dps
true fulcrum
- I love Sigma he's a sweetheart
dusty basalt
i like Moiras character
dry portal
I mean isn’t the term “mad scientist” made off of one who experiments dangerously on themselves
pliant sparrow
Moira is more that she feels nothing for anything outside of research
stark notch
Who made bastion
dusty basalt
yea
true fulcrum
mad scientist is something else, definately
dry portal
Probably one of the Omnic terror groups
true fulcrum
Bastion is a mass product
dry portal
I wouldn’t think Null Sector
dusty basalt
omnics made themselves probably
dry portal
He doesn’t have the colors
dry portal
In the first short when he came out of the ground he was white
true fulcrum
Torb and the Iron Clad were kinda responsible in building omnics like Bastion
dry portal
Null Sector is orange and purple
dusty basalt
paint wears off i guess
pliant sparrow
He was deactivated for over 30 years without any refurbishing
dusty basalt
maybe he was a prototype or something
iron plume
Bastion was made in an omnic factory
iron plume
but the model was at least partially created by torb
true fulcrum
it's in there, literally
dry portal
Yeah same as the titan
dusty basalt
Torbjorn confuses me so much
iron plume
null sector isn't orange
pliant sparrow
Null sector is purple
dry portal
Is that not who the crusaders are fighting in the rein short
iron plume
no
pliant sparrow
No
iron plume
Null Sector is a recent group
pliant sparrow
They were fighting omnium produced omnics
iron plume
The crusaders are fighting in the omnic crisis
dusty basalt
different models at different times and places
god i really hope those overwatch 2 rumors are true
iron plume
And "mad scientists" in media are usually the people who concoct some weird creations to fight the good guy
most of them are actually more mad engineers
dusty basalt
mad scienctist can have lot of meanings i guess
iron plume
it's a trope
dry portal
It is slang after all I guess
iron plume
moira doesn't really fit it
dry portal
It can be made into anything
pliant sparrow
Mad scientists can also be eccentric but loveable scientists who create whacky inventions
iron plume
that's not how that works
dusty basalt
moira values her research over laws
pliant sparrow
Research is what keeps her going
iron plume
breaking laws doesn't make one mad
dusty basalt
do you think reyes would have still been reyes if moira didnt do her experiments
dusty basalt
was he dying?
dry portal
Was he?
I thought you were meaning like he would’ve died in the future
The experiments made him super durable
And hyper regeneration
dusty basalt
i mean everyones gonna die in the future
dusty basalt
i would love a reaper and soldier76 short
iron plume
no, I mean he'd be dead by the time of overwatch's events
dusty basalt
he is only like 56
iron plume
he came to her with "complications" in his SEP improvements
dusty basalt
i mean out of all the soldiers that got the op thingy one is bound to go wrong
iron plume
I think it might be a safer bet that only one has gone right
iron plume
they might have also died in combat before finding out
worthy rose
meow
pliant sparrow
It’s possible reyes would have died in the explosion at swiss headquarters if he hadn’t had his genetics altered by moira
iron plume
that too
dry portal
So I’m assuming Soldier survived out of luck or some kind of tactitioning then
iron plume
his SEP was working properly
dry portal
So Reaper didn’t have any of the effects?
pliant sparrow
Whilst reaper may have been hurt but because he’s regenerating and decaying he could be stuck in an injured state
dry portal
So now what exactly did the SEP do for the soldiers
Was it like captain America levels of super soldier
If so that’s pretty strong
hazy crater
Hello
worthy rose
Hello 
dry portal
Sup
pliant sparrow
Hi there
peak escarp
@dry portal pretty much
they were given enhanced speed and endurance, and are able to heal faster than an ordinary human
peak escarp
also someone was looking for a timeline?
dry portal
Because the super soldiers in Captain America were able to move a large claw forklift I think it was 70-100 yards in 19 seconds
Did you make that doctor?
peak escarp
I don't post a lot
I just comment on other people's posts telling them why they're wrong
also someone said Genji had met Orisa because they heard it in a voice line
voice lines are not all canon
plenty of heroes who haven't met have interactions, like Mei and Junkrat, or Winston and Zenyatta
dry portal
So it seems like Tracer was atleast somewhat well known in London even after OW disbanded
So does she still do stuff there
wintry locust
Just sayin' TF2 has better charachters and lore
peak escarp
okay
dry portal
Sure
stark notch
I watched a 35 minute long video with no mention of moira pharah or orisa
dry portal
That’s probably the main story then
peak escarp
clearly it wasn't everything then
dry portal
Also you can’t just trust a single source
You might wanna branch more out
If u want to find stuff on the rest
Isn’t there a bot command that has more stuff on the OW heroes
It’s like !! Lore something
peak escarp
fanmade youtube videos aren't very reliable sources of lore
worthy rose
They are not important characters, so they are not mentioned in a general recount of the lore.
stark notch
The real question is when Reinhardt dies do they remove him from the game
stark notch
Old age
dry portal
How old is he?
worthy rose
She is not important to the general storyline
stark notch
Him and winston seem pretty old
peak escarp
Jeff said that if any hero died in the lore, they would still stay playable
dry portal
^
peak escarp
Winston is 29
dry portal
Yeah I’ve heard that too
peak escarp
Reinhardt is 61
dry portal
61 doesn’t seem that old
worthy rose
They said that like one year ago
dry portal
Especially for how well built he is
worthy rose
Clearly no hero died since then
stark notch
Genji half died
dry portal
What about it
You could say the same for a lot of people
Who were injured to near death
peak escarp
Sigma is older than Reinhardt
dry portal
Also the wiki says that sigma is 8’1
I’m assuming they mean game height
With him floating
Because he seems tall
But not 8ft tall
peak escarp
that's the fandom wiki
which isn't reliable
there's no official height given for Sigma
stark notch
Do i have to find ow character videos to find out about the others ?
stark notch
@dry portal i Guess normal Wiki is straight from ow
peak escarp
the Gamepedia wiki is curated by one of the mods here (Jewvia) and is more up to date and has better sources
the Fandom one is not updated as reliably and has a lot of made up info
stark notch
@dry portal pharah mercy and orisa
peak escarp
neither of them are official
worthy rose
And lacks many pieces of backstory for several characters
stark notch
And doomfist
peak escarp
but yeah, the Gamepedia one is more reliable
dry portal
Ok I’ll keep that in mind
peak escarp
if you want to know about Pharah, read the comic "Mission Statement"
dry portal
Doomfists lore is pretty simple
peak escarp
for Orisa, there isn't much, since she's so young - pretty much just her origin story and the tweets used to tease her release
stark notch
Where do i find the comics
peak escarp
dry portal
As a kid he was a renown martial artist but during the omnic crisis he lost an arm. Thankfully his family owned a prosthetic company but he could no longer compete.
Then he met Doomfist #2
Which trained him until Doomfist had killed him
peak escarp
Masquerade features Doomfist post-breakout and shows you what Talon is up to
stark notch
Whos doomfist one then
dry portal
So wait is Masquerade about breaking Doomfist out or what he does after being broke out
Doomfist 1 was a good guy
He’s the savior of Numbani
peak escarp
the first Doomfist was a hero during the omnic crisis who helped save Numbani
what he does after breaking out
dry portal
Ah ok
So another thing I wanna know about Baptiste lore
Where is that photo of him and Mawga at the bar from
Did overwatch just make it or was it in his short
peak escarp
it's from his short story, What You Left Behind
dry portal
So is it like a comic or does it just have photos in it
dry portal
Are any of the short stories actual comics
dry portal
So are the OW comics and short stories different things
dry portal
What’s the other short story
dry portal
Oh
stark notch
How did @peak escarp lose his arm
peak escarp
pretty sure I have both my arms
stark notch
McCree
peak escarp
also
dry portal
He lost it recently tho
peak escarp
his
dry portal
He has his arm during blackwatch
dry portal
Although I do wonder how
dry portal
Bob?
peak escarp
Echo
dry portal
Oooooo
peak escarp
she's been in the artwork since the early concept days
since the game was pitched in 2013
dry portal
Yeah and McCree atleast seemed to know her
She may have been a founding or early member
peak escarp
she seems to be familiar with him and Overwatch
iron plume
yes, his armor is there
dry portal
Yeah I’d assume his body is atleast starting to deteriorate
But the armor should still be there
peak escarp
considering it has been rotting there for about 30 years
I'd say it's likely just bones by now
dry portal
So I meant to ask this earlier but I didn’t play OW again while Rising Storm was out so do you know what it was about and when it took place
Ik it involves capturing MaxMillian to know more about Doomfist
peak escarp
that's basically it
Overwatch was having a hard time finding Doomfist, so they targeted Maximilen instead
Max gave up Doomfist's location on the condition that they didn't rat him out to Doomfist
this leads directly into Doomfist's origin story, where Tracer, Genji and Winston take down Doomfist in Singapore 3 weeks later
the story is set 6 years before Recall, after Retribution and Uprising (and probably after Ana goes MIA), and before the Swiss HQ explosion that was believed to have killed Morrison and Reyes
dry portal
So did they arrest Max?
peak escarp
I assume he was just released when they were done with him
Max wasn't really a priority target
if you mean Doomfist, its shown in Masquerade that he busts out and Reaper picks him up
it's also mentioned in this article:
dry portal
So what is masquerade about then
peak escarp
it's about Doomfist returning to Talon and cleaning up the leadership
he throws Vialli (one of the leaders) off a balcony
peak escarp
Doomfist, Reaper, Moira, Sanjay Korpal (Symmetra's boss), Maximilien
iron plume
there's some unknowns
peak escarp
and others that we don't have names for
dry portal
Who’s Sanjay
iron plume
Sanjay Korpal (Symmetra's boss)
frosty shell
yeah
peak escarp
frosty shell
Sanjay Korpal
peak escarp
that's Sanjay
dry portal
Oooo
peak escarp
works for Vishkar
iron plume
...
peak escarp
he blew up a competitor's building when Symm couldn't find any dirt on them
iron plume
how are those things in any way exclusive
dry portal
It just seemed odd
They are also wearing the same suit so I thought they were both recruits or something
So who runs Vishkarr then
dry portal
So what does Sanjay do then
peak escarp
they're a construction/development company based out of India that uses hard light
dry portal
I assume he’s a higher up to be in Stalin’s council
*Talon
Why did it autocorrect to Stalin
peak escarp
Sanjay is a contractor? we don't know the title he holds
he's just high up enough to have Symmetra answer to him, and she's their best architech
dry portal
If it is the whole company I wonder why they’d choose Sanjay to represent them
peak escarp
but Symmetra thinks they're doing good things, so probably just Sanjay
peak escarp
she was taken from her family at a young age because she showed natural talent for manipulating hard light
she's an autistic prodigy
peak escarp
probably paid her parents something
dry portal
Oh
So on another thing how does hard light work
Like is it a power Symmetra has or does she use tech
If so where did she get the hard light tech from
peak escarp
After she was identified as one of the few capable of becoming a light-bending architech, young Satya Vaswani was plucked from extreme poverty and placed in the care of Vishkar's architech academy, never to return home. Isolated and lonely in her new life, Satya immersed herself in her education and training. She quickly grasped the applications of the technology and was one of the top students in her class.
its tech
limpid agate
I speculate she was an orphan
dry portal
So how did she get the technology to learn hard light bending if she was in extreme poverty
frosty shell
she might've done well in school
dry portal
So what is so special about hard light that she can is one of the few who could manipulate it
Is it like hard to manipulate or something
dry portal
Oh
frosty shell
you can do well in school even if you live in poverty
dry portal
So another thing is what do they mean by Architech
What exactly would she be building
frosty shell
It might just be that Symmetra is really creative
And that's why she makes such a good Architech
peak escarp
she builds buildings using hard light
peak escarp
Satya approached hard-light manipulation differently than her peers, with their more procedural, mechanical constructions, instead weaving her constructs in the motions of the traditional dance of her homeland.
frosty shell
Savants in real life can often make highly detailed drawings really fast
So that might be what Symmetra did when she was young
dry portal
So I’ve wondered also is we’ve seen hard light to create shields and barriers and such
Did Vishkarr just use it as fabrication tech?
Or how did they do it
peak escarp
it's not confirmed that barriers are hard light (but it's widely accepted)
dry portal
Oh
peak escarp
I'd like to get a map for Utopaea (Vishkar's base of operations)
it would be a good chance to have a map that changes over time
dry portal
So can Symmetra make anything out of the fabrication tech
dry portal
Damn
She seems to be able to make advanced tech too
Giant wall barriers
Teleporters
Laser turrets
Shield generators
It seems rly powerful
peak escarp
he ranks pretty high on strength and agility
stronger than ordinary humans but weaker than Doomfist
on par with omnics
dry portal
This may just be a Mandela effect but didn’t he slice a car open in Doomfists origin story
Like Doomfist threw one at him I thought
dry portal
So I’ve wondered aswell
peak escarp
I'd love to keep answering questions, but I'm starting work in 5 minutes
dry portal
Ah ok
peak escarp
maybe someone else can take over
limpid agate
Someone has questions
dry portal
So I’ve wondered whenever Genji uses dash,deflect, or the dragons is he using his cybernetics or his technotattoos
The reason I say this is whenever he uses these moves he seems to leave green entrails and even has a dragon show up in his sword. Which is similar to whenever Hanzo uses his technotattoos for storm arrow to create arrows which I thought could be similar to Genjis deflect and using it to almost create tangable after images to deflect bullets.
dry portal
Ye I’ve seen that
He has a lot of speed and precision
I’m just thinking if it’s part of his technotattoos power or the cybernetics
Or both
limpid agate
The only thing we know about the tattoos
Is Dragons appear to come from Hanzo's
And nothing more
dry portal
What’s he doing with storm arrows then
limpid agate
Have we seen Storm Arrows in canon?
Because he might not be capable of it
The Dragon isn't a new arrow
He uses an arrow to shoot the Dragons
dry portal
Ye I assumed he’s using his tattoos to enchant his arrows since they have a blueish glow to them
And his tattoos glow whenever he uses it
worthy rose
hanzo uses scatter arrow in canon
dry portal
Dragons
worthy rose
yes he did what
limpid agate
No, he didn't.
worthy rose
he did though
worthy rose
is this gaslighting
dry portal
He uses scatter arrow against Genji
worthy rose
oh
dry portal
Yeah
limpid agate
No one is talking about Scatter Arrow
That's just a trick arrow head anyways
No dragons shit
dry portal
Yeah we’re talking about the storm arrow
worthy rose
it looks like it's just something he can do with his arrows and not an arrowhead but i get what you mean
limpid agate
Scatter and Sonar are just trick arrow heads
You can see the transition of arrow head in both game and the short
The arrow head transforms
And then he fires it
They're trick arrows
Green Arrow is infamous for using them too
limpid agate
He might have another as a taser arrow
Depends on what he used to put the omnic out of comission
dry portal
Ye I was checking the scene and it looked like the normal arrow
And for how he summons the dragons I’m assuming he’s using his tattoos
His tattoos seem to have some kind of technological properties
The dragons are probably some kind of light projection we can make
And by Genjis wounds we can see the dragons both burned and scarred him
It also is able to make him shoot much faster with storm Arrows
To maybe some type of technologically implanted tattoos
I’d assume Genji would also have them but we don’t know
He uses his own Dragons in the short so there’s some evidence I guess
worthy rose
Ummmm season 18 is broken
limpid agate
Not lore
And by Genjis wounds we can see the dragons both burned and scarred him
We dont know if he was defeated by the dragons
We just know he was defeated
That is not a safe assumption
dry portal
Oh I thought it was comfirmed he used the dragons on Genji
limpid agate
It also is able to make him shoot much faster with storm Arrows
A: That's not what Storm Arrows is
B: Storm Arrows might not even be canon
Storm Arrows is that he is creating arrows
Not just shooting arrows faster
He is creating arrows out of nothing/light
dry portal
Oh
limpid agate
Storm Arrows doesnt shoot physical arrows
dry portal
I got the part on Genji being burned by the dragons from this chart
So then another thing I’m confused on is how abilities shown in game wouldn’t be considered canon
worthy rose
Rein was born in 2014. He might have played mine craft
devout sable
@limpid agate storm arrows are canon, I think
hold on
oh, nevermind
I could swear I've seen rapid-fire arrows in Dragons
but the closest thing I could find to that was this
after Genji jumps
worthy rose
You're probably thinking of the highlight intro where he shoots storm arrow
dry portal
I get what they’re talking about
At 3:42 a direct line of arrows comes at Genji when he jumps
dry portal
Wrong part I meant 3:52
limpid agate
That's scatter arrow
wintry locust
My favourite part about the lore is how we thought sniper was australian but he was a new zealander
supple bear
sniper?
frosty shell
TF2
random kettle
What is that melody
worthy rose
So like WHY did nobody check on Mei when she was gone for longer then 5 years?
clever knoll
analog bear
limpid agate
@worthy rose They thought the outpost was dead because they didnt get any food for 5 years
No point going on an Antarctic expedition just to collect some corpses
Especially considering Overwatch was in crisis mode for those years
devout sable
Overwatch would know of the cryostasis chambers though, wouldn't they?
limpid agate
I don't think they were intended for multi year usage
Storm took too long, they got written off in the first couple years
urban sedge
^
dry portal
So I’m gonna assume that the Triglav Protector isn’t a canon mech since it’s only shown in the heroes of the storm crossover
limpid agate
It was designed specifically to combat things like the Zerg, Diablo, and Undead Legion
So no
Its not canon
devout sable
there is a vehicle with Zarya's gun, isn't there?
dry portal
Ye
If you mean the mechs in the Volskaya short
They have a particle cannon and a shield barrier
worthy rose
I want a mercy short uwu
iron plume
I don't think they'd go into the tech much
still, showing her be the force of peace would be nice
the baptiste meeting sounds promising
dry portal
I assume they would a bit
She did invent one of the most innovative and used tech in Ow
She,Moira,Ana,Soldier
And many others use it
worthy rose
Yess
Mercy and Reaper shorts is what I want the most
Mercy because she is aesthetically a beautiful hero so I want to see her in full cgi glory
Reaper because I'd like to see more of his side, since he usually appears only as an antagonist/sidekick for other characters.
true fulcrum
I want a Moira short tbh this is what I wish most for
show me her past and the things she did right and wrong
late torrent
imagine Mercy short showing her sassy side
hazy crater
I look horribly in shorts.
iron plume
don't do that
worthy rose
A Reaper short with Moira as a secondary character would be very interesting
I was thinking of a short which showcases the battle at the Overwatch's HQ from Reyes' perspective. Moira could appear as an ally of Reyes who completes her "work" on him.
dry portal
I just rly hope we see Sigma in more shorts now that he’s indoctrinated into talon
I love his character
dry portal
I’ve you’ve ever seen his voice lines he very polite
He has gotten mentally damaged but he still has all his intelligence
foggy notch
Politeness is something madness is something else
All the geniuses are mentally ill
Like The Joker
dry portal
Mercy?
dry portal
Mei isn’t insane either
dry portal
Mercy literally invented nanobiotech
Half of the OW roster uses her tech
Soldier Ana Moira
foggy notch
Dude
U arent getting what I mean
And im not here to argue
Geniuses are different
dry portal
I still don’t understand what you mean by that but alright
If you’re talking about mad scientists then yeah
peak escarp
the Joker isn't a genius
urban sedge
Sigma was a very smart man even before he went nuts
And he ain’t completely nuts, either
worthy rose
can someone help me i have a big big problem with ow
ith not the gameplay or some unbalanced stuff
dry portal
Shoot
peak escarp
yes?
urban sedge
Lore problem? 
urban sedge
Issue solved 
worthy rose
Considering how lore was never the main selling point of this game and that to this day there is no lore-centered mode aside from a yearly event, I don't even care about lore development being released sporadically.
lament prawn
i know, why must this team based competitive first person shooter have such an amazing universe and cast
peak escarp
because it's Blizzard
they're known for creating deep universes and interesting characters
lament prawn
i hope the rumored pve game wont be a quickie game that will rot after completion, i'd like it to have content added regularly somehow, like current ow
worthy rose
It won't rot after release because Blizzard usually never lets games rot
They made a remaster of Starcraft which was released like 20 years ago, so yeah.
lament prawn
and i trust them to deliver
im sorta new to them but i love blizzard so far, feels less corporate/business and more like a family
lament prawn
meh, i just got that image because they have quite a few panels/interviews with artists going all out about their craft, which is something not many devs do
and i love the style of their games although i only play one
worthy rose
Yeah, those panels are cool
I liked the panel from 2017's Blizzcon where Jeff showed very early versions of certain heroes
shell pewter
give zen lore
peak escarp
why?
urban sedge
Lmao
devout sable
here's what I'm referring to when I say that Sigma's black holes are obviously nerfed
dry portal
Well there probably artificial black holes
That he’s creating using his gravity manipulation
urban sedge
You obv can’t have a black hole in the real world lmao
dry portal
I mean yeah you also can’t fabricate hard light
tepid bone
which talon member would moira most likely d8!??
tepid bone
that lowkey sounds canon
urban sedge
Not really. They’re both scientists that have some crazy in then but that’s all the connection they have
tepid bone
i guess
urban sedge
And I think their ethics don’t combine
true fulcrum
crashes in I hear Sigmoira
worthy rose
No. Shipping is a mistake.
peak escarp
agreed
dry portal
agreed x2
true fulcrum
wow rude, let ppl have their fun with stuff they enjoy okay?
urban sedge
^
peak escarp
if it's not canon it has no place here
you're free to discuss shipping in #general-discussion
urban sedge
Ah that is true
true fulcrum
I can get that, but telling people it's a mistake is smth else really
urban sedge
Although earlier I was discussing the possibility (which’s pretty slim) of that one particular ship
worthy rose
I'm not actually sure why Sigma and Moira would even care about love
Sigma's mind is literally broken and Moira is devoted to her research
dry portal
Especially Moira
urban sedge
I can’t see Moira giving a shit
dry portal
Some of Sigmas dialogue he seems to have some nature of relationships but Moira would not care at all
urban sedge
The fact Sig is broken ain’t that much of a reason. He’s still lucid at least half of the time
Moira wants fuck all besides messing with genes
worthy rose
Sigma doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who cares about finding a romantic interest
dry portal
Most likely doesn’t
worthy rose
He's pretty much a nutjob obsessed with his research
urban sedge
He’s... yep
Was about to say that
But he is a little more interested in normal matters than Moira
dry portal
Probably just him being polite but he’s asked some people in dialogue when they were free
He’s surprisingly polite in his interactions with others
urban sedge
He has?
worthy rose
I do find it adorable how he wants to make some friends. But a romantic relationship is going a little overboard
dry portal
Yeah I get that
urban sedge
He’s a polite fellow
true fulcrum
I dunno why everyone is picturing Moira literally reckless to the point where she gives no shit at all
I mean sure she's experimenting on others and stuff but it's canon that she still cares for people and does her research for a good
like literally lol, it was always her goal to help people
and on another note she's described as chaotic neutral and not choatic evil or anything
I think sometimes peeps got a worse image of her than she actually acts
dry portal
And yes whenever Sigma interacts with others especially other scientists he’s always been rly polite
urban sedge
He’s like... the epitome of a chaotic good scientist
true fulcrum
also yeah Siebren is a sweetheart
worthy rose
@true fulcrum Thank you! You conveyed really well the idea that Moira's priority is scientific research and that she doesn't have a lot of time to develop a romantic relationship (which takes a lot of time)
urban sedge
It wasn’t her goal to always help people
dry portal
Her goal was to advance the field of genetics research
By any means
Even unethical ones
worthy rose
I actually didn't know her goal was to help people
worthy rose
I thought she just did it for fun and curiosity
urban sedge
From OW wiki:
She has no interest in global conquest,[4] but is willing to work with those who might have such a goal. [5] Her intellectual pursuits are driven by her interest in humanity.[4] She is a geneticist first and foremost, and that's the scope of her ambition. With very flexible morals, O'Deorain prefers to focus on her research and has no patience for those who urge caution or restraint.[5]
dry portal
So yes her curiosity is what drives her for the most part
true fulcrum
Progress in that field means to help people actually
peak escarp
urban sedge
No it doesn’t
peak escarp
take this as you will
urban sedge
It can just be for curiosity
urban sedge
It can be for “let’s see what happens if I replace this dude’s hand with an octopus tentacle” for all I care
peak escarp
I saw you at Luna's Cabaret the other evening. Would you care to go together sometime?
dry portal
Awww
peak escarp
Sigma is asking someone out
urban sedge
Awwwwwwww
peak escarp
no idea who (although I think it might be Widowmaker, since she's a known regular at Luna's)
true fulcrum
but whoever that is declines
worthy rose
So Widowmaker no? She's the only one who has a relationship to Paris
dry portal
Ye id think either Widow or some other scientist
urban sedge
Sigma asking Widow out 
dry portal
He’s said he’s read both Mercy and Mei’s work
true fulcrum
I don't think it's Widow
peak escarp
Mercy's?
worthy rose
So I know that voicelines aren't canon
But Mercy is in Egypt and Mei is in Asia
Going to Paris just for one night seems overboard
true fulcrum
literally Sigma has no means to visit Paris either so what does it matter
it could be anyone
urban sedge
@peak escarp where did you get that voice line from?
peak escarp
it's in the voice files for Sigma
true fulcrum
look up Sigma interactions on YT
worthy rose
If he is proposing to spend some time in Paris it means he can go there
peak escarp
the other half of his interactions aren't implimented yet
true fulcrum
it's there + others
dry portal
Yeah he talks to Mei Winston Moira and possible Reaper
peak escarp
the reason I think it's Widowmaker isn't because of her connection to Paris
true fulcrum
Reaper or Tracer
urban sedge
Voice lines just take into account what COULD happen if people met so you can’t really infer that he can go to Paris
peak escarp
it's because of her connection to Luna's Cabaret specifically
dry portal
What exactly is the Luna Cabaret
true fulcrum
place you spawn on attac
worthy rose
It seems random to invite Mercy or Mei specifically to Paris, out of all the places
dry portal
I’m assuming a restaurant
urban sedge
It’s the attack spawn on Paris
worthy rose
If he isn't referring to Widowmaker then it's an unbelievable coincidence
peak escarp
(French): Back again, Madame Guillard? It’s good to see you.
Luna has a chance of saying this when there's a Widowmaker on the team
dry portal
Who’s Luna
peak escarp
Danielle Guillard is the pseudonym she uses when she travels
dry portal
I’m stupid
peak escarp
Luna is the omnic singer in the lounge
dry portal
Oh
peak escarp
worthy rose
Is that a younger version of Sigma on your pfp? @true fulcrum
urban sedge
That’s pre-broken Sig
peak escarp
Sigma has a different interaction for Mei
dry portal
Ooooo that person
peak escarp
Dr. Zhou. I've read your work; it's brilliant.
true fulcrum
@worthy rose it's that one epic skin he got
peak escarp
he doesn't have an interaction for Mercy, that I can tell
true fulcrum
not the talon one, but the other
peak escarp
yes
urban sedge
Yes
true fulcrum
yeah its mei
dry portal
Ah ok
peak escarp
Moira calls her that as well
peak escarp
Dr. Zhou, I'm interested in your colleagues' research into the long term effects of cryogenic freezing.
urban sedge
Ahh I also remember Sig actually scolds Moira for her ethics
peak escarp
Dr. O'Deorain, the main components have gone missing. Do you know where they might be?
true fulcrum
no one knows
urban sedge
Anything from a lab prob
peak escarp
not sure
urban sedge
They’re working together aren’t they
urban sedge
Because he is a polite fella
true fulcrum
yup
urban sedge
I work at a lab. Things vanish sometimes.
😛
You have to go around asking people if they took it
true fulcrum
I used to do the same
dry portal
Ye I get that but he says “components”
Which seems like an odd choice of words for lab tools
true fulcrum
again the interactions are incomplete and we don't know yet
urban sedge
Depends on what they’re working on
true fulcrum
jfc my english sucks today
urban sedge
Chemistry also uses “components”
dry portal
True