and these r guesses for his abilities
#lore-discussion
vale junco
hazy vortex
I don't believe the midi theory any more, I think it's just the music is relevant to the origin of the character
But it may just be as simple as the music is Creepy as fuck and unnerving like the character himself
It definitely sounds like it could be a Greek piece though, just played on the piano, and not on the traditional instrument it's normally played on
peak escarp
its probably just meant to be unnerving/discordant to show that Sigma isn't a good guy
somber bridge
Sigma's gonna be something related to physics. Keppler's, Escape velocity, etc.
peak escarp
he could be Lucheng Interstellar's new CEO
somber bridge
perhaps
hasty surge
Twitter
hazy vortex
I'd be so hyped for a character with portals
Like janus from smite
That'd be amazing
The abilities would fit so well
worthy rose
We have a character that literally creates a teleporter portal
hazy vortex
The portal works differently but I can't explain now, because I'm busy
timid eagle
I'm really not feeling this character, but whatever.
hazy vortex
So in smite the portal works like this-
When the ability is activated the character holds a projectile and an outline of the portal is projected onto that surface and that outline is projected through that part of the map, if it means that the player can safely come out on the other side without falling out the map or glitching into something. The player than presses the primary fire button to cast the portal which creates agate which you and your team can travel through, which disappears after a singel use. The portal has a limit to its range however so you can't warp from one side of the map to the other
If its placed on the floor, only enemies can go through it and any enemy that fall through it is teleported to the ceiling of the room they happen to be in, or a few meters in the air. They do not have air control during this time, so they are significantly slowed and take minor fall damage upon falling. Teh portal cannot be placed on the ceiling, only a ground portal can create an out portal in the sky or in the ceiling
That's how it works in smite
timid eagle
I'll believe it.
But I guess we will know more when an official trailer comes out for this dude later this week.
hazy vortex
This is just an idea for an ability
But it would be cool if something like this made it in
Also perhaps if he's a tank he will have a portal shield that absorbs projectiles and the energy from the projectiles charges his primary fire although its a bit similar to zarya, so perhaps it may charge a resource bar liek torbs old scrap that allows him to superpower his other abilities
raven drift
Give winston a grab
Secondary fire
Pointblank of course
But lets you hold and throw with a short window
Long cd unless raging
Like 20 seconds, 5 second while rage
Ofc people arent stunned
Just cant move
Unless abilities such as rewind, pharah jet, tracer blink even,
And while holding he is immune to the cc of whoever he his holding
So ana sleep wont work if shes held
While raging it has bigger aoe and can hold more people
Cant aim throw down, so it would be balanced in that degree so you cant just dunk them into ilios pit
Unless you let the throw end so they just drop
But again
They can damage you
Aldo give winston the passive where the more dmg he takes the more resistant to dmg and cc he is
Like a mini rage
Gauged by his stance and angry eyes
Would decay fairly fast
worthy rose
With copious amounts of gravity, time gets distorted. I believe Sigma will have a time slowing ultimate. If we go with the gravity theme as hinted to with his teaser, I believe sigmas real last name will be tolbelstein. I predict Sigma invented the tolbelstein generator.
hazy vortex
@raven drift kind of more in #overwatch. Admittedly I put sigmas abilities here when they shouldn't.
I'd like to see it though
hazy vortex
Basically sigma
limpid agate
Sigma should be space manipulation, not time
Probably going to create black holes that function differently than gravitons
Perhaps they destroy projectiles instead
Potential name inspiration
deft hollow
But the closer you get to a black hole wouldn't that warp time and slow it down
hazy vortex
Theoretically as, ya know, no one's been close to a black hole
I still think portal shield would be sick
somber bridge
possible gravity star in overwatch meaning somebody's gonna go for a jumpshot gravity star widow headshot on like a moira or whatever
also, yes black holes DO warp time but not how you think it would
Basically, it's how time dilation and speed interact, etc
and it's to do with a fancy equation
The closer you get to light speed
the greater time dilates
i wasn't the best at time dilation
but
how it works is basically
1 second for you
is like 22 seconds for them
it might be the other way around
yeah it's that way
so
Black Hole suction is so fast, it's strong enough to suck in light
this is because, the escape velocity of Black Holes are literally greater than the speed of light
which is 3.0 * 10^8
so, yes, Black Holes warp time but that's because you're being sucked in FASTER than the speed of light
there's a shitty little physics lesson for y'all
grand bluff
Yeah but you'd also be inside the black hole at that point with no escape, because you'd have to pass the event horizon. Are we suggesting sigma is actually involved in black hole teleportation or?
Or time manipulation?
somber bridge
Black Hole Teleportation is quite literally impossible
this is because, as I said, the escape velocity of a black hole is greater than lightspeed
grand bluff
Yes that's what I was saying
grand bluff
Once you pass the event horizon it's impossible to get out
grand bluff
So I was asking why we think he will have anything to do with black holes
Ah yes
Okay
I think yeah it's a tad too immersion breaking to be manipulating black holes in a game like this
somber bridge
somebody mentioned "black hole" and "warping time" and I just wanted to explain how a black hole dilates time
i do think time dilation would be really cool to add to the hero
like, if you could slow down a region's time by speeding up how fast everything was going around it, that'd be really interesting
deft hollow
Can't stop won't stop, rip Lucio as he flies into a black hole
worthy rose
@hazy vortex for some reason. That also sounds like Wraith's Ultimate in Apex legends.
worthy rose
The "portal from smite" bit.
hazy vortex
I don't imagine it working like wraith, I imagine it being cast like symetras teleporter
worthy rose
That makes sense
In the trailer, Jeff was sucked in then dispersed in a "controlled" and Semi equal fashion. If this is repeating anything that someone has said, sorry. I was thinking that his "barrier" would consume enemy projectiles then disperse the projectile in a defence matrix type attack
lament prawn
perhaps it can suck in normal, almost harmless bullets, and then charge itself up to form a huge explosion
untold cradle
I'd imagine that he most likely has to do something with the displacement of enemies (or allies) utilizing wormholes or the manipulation of gravity to some extent. Eating/collecting projectiles using the placement of wormholes also makes sense.
lament prawn
it would feel like d.va's self destruct, the way it charges up before exploding
if he alters gravity in a way that could counter pharah, then mercy will be seeing another indirect nerf
untold cradle
Now that I think about it, the idea of a hero who utilized magnetism to some extent was something they always wanted to mess with. Maybe he uses black holes similarly to graviton that allow him to collect projectiles rather than people and then disperse them in an AOE. The more projectiles collected, the more damage (or maybe knockback)?
Or maybe he himself is the source of the gravity/magnetic effect 
grave ore
Or maybe using some kind of exageration of gravity on ennemies like phara would cannot fly
iron plume
considering the abilities this would work on, that just sounds like a worse hack
limpid agate
Which is why I suggested
Projectile black hole
Sort of like a deployable defense matrix
iron plume
yeah, what cod calls a trophy system
limpid agate
What
limpid agate
Jager has that in R6 too
ADS
Active Defense System
I think that's the mechanic Sigma will bring as a tank
iron plume
yeah it's not uncommon
put into apex recently too
and notably missing from ow (for now)
chilly peak
limpid agate
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M–sigma_relation
Maybe this is his name origin
@chilly peak Oooh, interesting theory
Would fit with what little we have to work on
I disagree with the hexagon stuff
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iron plume
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iron plume
compare
peak escarp
also wasn't there a fake leak about a hero with a mini railgun and an electric net not too long ago?
that sounds familiar
hasty surge
Really? Was there?
hasty surge
29 is ashe right?
peak escarp
yes
peak escarp
they merged Nemesis with what we've figured out about Sigma
hasty surge
Hmm?
peak escarp
what evidences?
worthy rose
Well Sigma definately looks like a cyborg
also this might sound stupid but has anyone tried playing the piano notes from the teaser in the paris piano? just wild prediction
peak escarp
I'm sure people have tried it
peak escarp
but the screenshot doesn't match with real hero pages
peak escarp
also, I would hope Blizzard has better proofreaders than that
teal meadow
you think we might get another teaser today?
untold cradle
well, new teaser is up
worthy rose
It is. On twitter?
untold cradle
I guess now the question is if the Sigma we saw in the leak was either a test subject or a self-test administered on himself
hasty surge
That's fast
worthy rose
All it tells us is he is a patient or being tested on
hasty surge
Why would someone name their subject sigma
untold cradle
Would be interesting if "Sigma" is some sort of criminal being tested on by scientists, and something went wrong that gave him the ability to warp space-time or manipulate gravity.
worthy rose
Like tracer, but not accidental
untold cradle
Another thing is that they're really pushing the melody
hasty surge
So there are 18 other subjects?
peak escarp
could be one of the people who escaped when Doomfist broke out
untold cradle
That actually makes sense
chilly peak
or the alarm starts when gorillas from the Moon started their rebellion
worthy rose
What letter number is sigma in the Greek alphabet
untold cradle
I'd imagine at a place like where Doomfist was previously being locked up, there would be some shady stuff going on there.
peak escarp
the Horizon specimens wore white jumpsuits
not orange
also they were called specimens not subjects
worthy rose
And what is the symbol above the barcode.
hazy vortex
I knew that music had to be important
worthy rose
Is it the same as the one on Petras or what ever the hell the map with the floor that breaks is called
untold cradle
Now they're explicitly asking "Hey what's the deal with this melody?"
hazy vortex
And we've been told that melody is probably not an original piece and is somewhere on the Internet
peak escarp
symbol above the barcode?
worthy rose
Can anybody play it into Shazam
peak escarp
there's just lines above the bar code
worthy rose
Farthest right
hazy vortex
Can someone pin the status thing? For convenience
worthy rose
What Status?
hazy vortex
The twitter teaser thing
worthy rose
Yeah. Have we seen that before?
hazy vortex
In that clip it sounds like it's towards the end of the melody
hazy vortex
It may be short hand code for whatever has been done to to sigma
worthy rose
Thanks. I'll try to find the piece.
hazy vortex
And then there's the logo
hazy vortex
The logo next to teh letters
A hexagon with the dot in the middle
And two slits on the bottom and top faces
restive flower
I hope 18M doesn't mean 18 year old male
restive flower
Well we are lacking of young characters in general, especially young males, but Sigma doesn't look 18 at all
peak escarp
kinda looks like omnicode
hazy vortex
Perhaps
worthy rose
I appreciate it Doctor six
untold cradle
So judging by all we've seen, there are two possibilities for who Sigma is:
A. He's an astrophysicist who discovered how to manipulate the fabric of space-time and tested the effects of it on himself, causing some sort of mass disaster.
B. He's a prisoner of some maximum security prison (potentially Helix Security?) and was tested on by scientists who worked there. Some freak malfunction or accident happened that cause him to manipulate space-time and allowed him to escape his prison (or he was potentially already capable of manipulating space-time from prior testing, but Doomfist's escape allowed him to finally escape due to lowered defenses).
worthy rose
Omnicode is used in the back of one of Lucio's albums
untold cradle
i'm leaning towards B at this point
chilly peak
@peak escarp pls compare this symbol to this device on Junkertown (wich i believe it's tobelstein reactor)
https://imgur.com/Y189zq2
peak escarp
why would that be a tobelstien reactor?
chilly peak
and have you read my topic?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/cfzeci/sigma_is_the_creator_of_tobelstein_reactor/
worthy rose
Synaesthesia Auditiva
peak escarp
yes I've read your topic
restive flower
Anyone has any idea what "CA-NK" means?
peak escarp
it's based on a big assumption
the tobelstein reactor on Zarya's weapon is not hexagonal
chilly peak
as you can see, it fits pretty well
https://imgur.com/MpwC3zq
restive flower
hazy vortex
That page I think is fake, it popped up earlier
untold cradle
Did you get here yourself or was this a leaked image
worthy rose
The banners in numbani have a very similar shape to the one symbol. Look up omnicode then go to the overwatch wiki and click on the red,yellow,green banner pic for third point attack
untold cradle
because this does corellate with the Nemesis thing a while back
teal meadow
chilly peak
alright, we will see then 😛
iron plume
that page is fake, stop spreading it
worthy rose
I couldn't find anything on the music
worthy rose
Thank you
peak escarp
the bit in Sigma's teaser is around 0:23
white cobalt
Huh, I didn't expected Erik Satie
hazy vortex
French
white cobalt
Also subject Sigma, so a experiment?
worthy rose
Maybe experimented on, something went wrong, he broke free, etc etc.
untold cradle
So there are several different interpretations as to the actual title of Gnossienne. The word itself was actually made by Satie, and some people believe that it's derived from the words "gnosis", which itself is indicitive of Gnosticism.
Gnosticism is basically a series of religious systems/ideas that says that there is one true "Unknown" God that created lesser spirits known as the Aeons, and then one Aeon in particular created a lesser god known as the Demiurge. The Demiurge is what most Abrahamic religions refer to as "God", or the lesser god who create the material realm (the universe).
The essential thing behind this though is that in order for one to achieve salvation under Gnosticism, you have to achieve "gnosis", which means knowledge.
And instead of "sin", Gnosticism deals with ignorance
teal meadow
excuse me, how can this teaser (https://twitter.com/i/status/1152971500120608768) is fake?
untold cradle
Other sources compare the name Gnossienne to Cretan myths such as the Minotaur and Theseus, but I think they're most likely going for the former
teal meadow
it's from the ow twitter account
untold cradle
He wasn't talking about that teaser, he was talking about that website image that everyone's been spreading around regarding Sigma's gameplay summary.
But anyways, I'm guessing the reasoning behind using Gnossienne No. 1 outside of the intimidating/mystery conveyed by the minor key is that they're trying to tell us that whoever "Sigma" is is either gifted with immense knowledge, had a "rebirth" of knowledge after whatever happened in the second teaser, is a product of the ignorance of man (specifically scientists) who made him the way he is, or he has some sort of fascination with knowledge and strives to achieve it.
Or he's just a damn good piano player and likes 19th century experimental piano compositions.
worthy rose
@untold cradle Clap and Half for you my friend.
untold cradle
I think that it's either that he strives to obtain knowledge (the whole salvation is obtained through knowledge thing) for whatever reason, or he believes that the ignorance of man is what made him whatever the hell he is.
teal meadow
but it can't be fake, even jeff reaction for it during seagull's live stream confirms it
untold cradle
The thing is that the summary uses details from a fake leak about a character named Nemesis, so many believe that it's probably not true.
worthy rose
The website is fake. With a real URL.
untold cradle
And with the stuff we've seen in the last few trailers, I doubt his powers are limited to just robotic enhancements.
worthy rose
If he is the omnic. Do you think he tailors for Maximilian. And is a front for talon.
Highly doubt he is any omnic at all, it doesn't add up.
untold cradle
I don't think he's the Omnic
worthy rose
No he's not an omnic.
teal meadow
Btw, isn't the uniform in the new sigma teaser a horizon lunar colony uniform?
untold cradle
I think that Sigma is most likely a highly-intelligent prisoner who most likely did some terrible crimes that caused him to get put into some maximum security underground prison (maybe Helix Security?), and he was tested on by scientists as a result of his terrible crimes. The tests caused him to develop the ability to manipulate space-time and allows him to create rifts in space or potentially affect gravity. He most likely escaped either due to some freak accident that caused his abilities to develop fully and allowed him to escape from the prison, or he was in the Helix Security prison during the Doomfist escape and had already developed his powers to a point where he could simply escape due to lowered security.
Also no, the Horizon uniforms are white
and they call the animals on Horizon "specimens" and not "subjects"
The orange of the jumpsuit kinda gives it away for me personally.
chilly peak
someone should play this music on Paris piano ^^
worthy rose
What was Helix again?
untold cradle
They were the guys who locked up Doomfist before he escaped. After the fight with Genji, Tracer, and Winston.
Pharah also works for them.
worthy rose
Okay. I thought the name sounded familiar
peak escarp
@teal meadow Horizon had white jumpsuits, not orange
teal meadow
But, winston and wrecking ball has those orange skins
peak escarp
Doomfist didn't have an orange jumpsuit either, but he wasn't a "subject"
which ones?
peak escarp
worthy rose
Winston's is a submarine skin.
Hammys is orange tho
Hammonds Lunar skin is canon, the white one, horizon is orange and it isnt.
That is his ball
Oh. Okay
;p
@peak escarp drew this.
teal meadow
Winston's epic is orange
peak escarp
drew what?
worthy rose
It won't let me post.
worthy rose
It's the symbol
teal meadow
@peak escarp that's not even close to that skin
worthy rose
@teal meadow its a symbol on sigmas suit
peak escarp
the skin isn't canon, because they wore white suits, not orange
frosty shell
the funny thing is
a lot of what people are guessing for Sigma's backstory is similar to one of the character backstories I tried thinking up
worthy rose
Interesting
peak escarp
Slow down time, rain destruction from above in a jet-powered armor suit, or pilot a superpowered hamster ball: In Overwatch, every hero has a unique set of devastating abilities.
we don't currently have a hero that can slow down time
untold cradle
So he can manipulate time. Technically wormholes are able to mess with time.
He's def a test subject went wrong, that is clear to me now.
untold cradle
True, should've worded it better
I was thinking he was an escapee
Some outside event or malfunction caused him to be unleashed and allowed him to escape.
summer marten
@runic prairie that kit leak is starting to look pretty accurate ... “slow down time”
When his abilities revolve around time manipulation, according to the kit leak
peak escarp
which kit leak?
peak escarp
that doesn't mention time manipulation at all
also it's clearly fake
that is some atrocious grammar
worthy rose
Might be another leak but this is the only one i've seen around so far.
hazy vortex
Can you repeat in English?
iron plume
it's spam
hazy vortex
Something about crypto currency
It would be good if we had bots that could pick shit like this up and delete it
iron plume
yes
bright edge
Time manipulation might be also about tracer, but it's a bit of stretch
peak escarp
it says "slow down time" - Tracer doesn't slow down time, she rewinds/fast forwards
worthy rose
Erik Satie - Gnossienne No 1
someone found the piece
Also the new teaser is interesting. Subject Sigma
worthy rose
Fashion theory is 6 feet under
The fact that it says Sigma is a Subject. Maybe a test on time slowing?
iron plume
science fashion let's go
worthy rose
The room he is in is similar to that of which Tracer was held in whilst she had chronal disassociation
peak escarp
is it?
worthy rose
Maybe he was the engineer for the whatchamacallit plane and got hit with his own time based shit
peak escarp
we can't even see the room he's in
peak escarp
it's a zoomed in shot of his chest
north flame
Did another teaser drop or something
peak escarp
and when the siren goes off, you can see a light in the top right corner
that's about it
north flame
I'll go look then
worthy rose
DEFINATELY a release this week.
peak escarp
yeah
worthy rose
That's fine with me, more tanks to play means a happier me
peak escarp
and given that heroes generally spend 3 weeks on PTR, he'll probably go live with the patch that adds the Role Queue beta season
Aug 13
limpid agate
2 weekend teasers in a row is very unusual
north flame
Well, Jeff said it was going to be a big week for overwatch, so he could definitely hit PTR Tuesday with an official reveal Monday tbh
iron summit
I remember people talking about a Talon Onmic tank that seemed to come out of nowhere after Baptiste's friend was revealed, wasn't expecting there to be any truth to it
peak escarp
this isn't an omnic
worthy rose
Well, now Mauga is another hero who has a potential Blizzcon release, correct?
Sigma is a cyborg by the way, not an omnic
peak escarp
and probably not Talon either
worthy rose
He could be a completely individual party
Also. He has a barcode on his chest. Just like the ones that are on Hammond, Brigitte, and a few others.
peak escarp
barcodes are irrelevant
worthy rose
Barcode doesn't do anything, it's random i've tried.
peak escarp
this one seems to be how they track their subjects
north flame
It's just an identification code more than likely
iron summit
i know the last archive event had a teaser at the end, i wonder if that's why people thought the next hero was omnic, not saying he's not a cyborg but ana was revealed with her mask 1st
north flame
Yeah, that's actually a theory I saw yesterday from I think it was Master Ian Gamer
peak escarp
people do think that
people are wrong
Ana wore a mask, but she wasn't pretending to be an omnic, it was just a mask
limpid agate
@iron summit That omnic was confirmed by Jeff to be an omnic
north flame
Could still be possible but I think the chances of it being him are low
peak escarp
the omnic from Storm Rising is confirmed to be an omnic
iron summit
so basically the archives teaser is a omnic, and Sigma is a cyborg so they're officially confirmed as not the same
limpid agate
Where do we know he's a cyborg
worthy rose
Do you think they will copy what they did with baptiste's release? Send out the origin story and reveal a day or two before PTR release? So maybe tomorrow.
iron summit
nyloc said, i thought i just missed something
worthy rose
People assume he's a cyborg because of the tech on his head.
limpid agate
@worthy rose Where do we know he's a cyborg
worthy rose
Nothing is confirmed.
@limpid agate Not confirmed true, but he has wires connecting his temples to his eyes, and something is happening around his head. I'm not sure, I just started coining the term
iron summit
though if that leak is real and i have no idea if it was from an official account, i couldn't find it, then it could imply he's a cyborg since they have a human face, but that's all i know
limpid agate
Could just be some Geordi LaForge blindness glasses
iron summit
do any of yous know what the music hint could be?
iron plume
humans typically have human faces, doc
iron summit
imagine if widow's husband was brought back from the dead as a cyborg?
peak escarp
no
limpid agate
The first teaser was all Science symbols, a chess symbol, and then 🎼
iron plume
how about no
iron plume
🎵
limpid agate
Gerard is dead
iron plume
wait what chess symbol
worthy rose
Gerard has been confirmed dead many times too
hazy vortex
And has been far beyond the time his body could have cybernetics
iron plume
?
worthy rose
4th one
limpid agate
It means white advantage
iron plume
uuuuhkay
iron summit
his name tag does say project Sigma, so some experimenting must have been done on him
limpid agate
It's used nowhere else
iron plume
i think they just put it because it looks mathy
fast tendon
wat role is sigma
peak escarp
probably
limpid agate
Tank most likely
hazy vortex
No way of knowing
hazy vortex
He may have a huge shield though
iron summit
hammond is a hamster yet apparently he's main, plus rein is only bulky because of his armour
hazy vortex
Hammond
iron summit
peak escarp
Hammond isn't a main tank
iron summit
you saw nothing
hazy vortex
Isn't that a debate that's going on though
iron plume
he is
and rein is pretty fucking big even armor aside
iron summit
someone told me he was and i don't know much about tanks, other than i know i suck at them
worthy rose
Hammond is off
peak escarp
main tanks have barriers
limpid agate
Hammond is a solo tank
Or was
He didn't pair well with anyone
Closest was DVa replacing a dps in his comp
iron plume
hammond is played in the way a maintank is
but that's not a this channel discussion
limpid agate
I think the biggest thing we can say is
We dont know Sigma
Or rather who he really is
The music hint looks like more space shit
"The son of the stars"
Wiat was is song 7
The other probably bigger hint is
It's in "free time"
Overall just more cryptic time space black hole relativity stuff
peak escarp
so he's probably not allied with any of the major groups?
lean vessel
I'd like it if he's affiliated with Talon
peak escarp
why?
peak escarp
based on?
hazy vortex
The music is really unnerving so probably not on OWs side, but I just don't think what we've seen so far affiliates him in any way with talon or any other criminal organisation
peak escarp
that's what I was thinking
hazy vortex
Also I haven't seen this discussed yet but, what are those ports on the jumpsuits shoulders
ashen lynx
amber gate
What is the code above the barcode on his jumpsuit
hazy vortex
Probably short hand for what's been done to him
peak escarp
or shorthand for his identity
amber gate
Just like a packet of crisps in the store?
hazy vortex
Yeah essentially
Both codes store info
Crisp barcodes store price info and sigmas barcode store info about him
amber gate
So everyone that could reed the barcode now's what he has done or what they done to him (where they =the guys that called him subject sigma)
peak escarp
basically
hazy vortex
Apart from sigmas barcode is just art
amber gate
And he will never be real
hazy vortex
It can't be raed at teh moment
amber gate
With a omnic mask or something like genji
hazy vortex
He probably has sensory enhancement that are just assumed to give him something that's basically vision if he does end up blind
frosty shell
i guess
peak escarp
there's also CA
untold cradle
Canadian hero?
frosty shell
idk I think I've seen better
peak escarp
I saw one posted by Naeri, but it is fanart
frosty shell
is this faked to be higher res?
worthy rose
No that one isn't a fake
frosty shell
so I can see that his eyes appear closed
worthy rose
Are they?
I honestly dont see it
But it said Temp Art?
Its temp art for the 2 lock thing
Oh okay. I was confused
frosty shell
he might be blind in just 1 eye for all we know
The hero concept I made up a while ago was someone who had experimental tech tested on them because of a unique disability, but broke free a la Mewtwo
so Sigma might be similar?
worthy rose
So do you think that Sigma the company or himself creates Maximilians clothes, but just covers as a front for talon.
peak escarp
he could just have squinty eyes and it's hard to make out in an image that's 10 pixels by 10 pixels
I don't think Sigma is related to the couture company
frosty shell
the image I linked above has bigger than 10x10 sigma portrait
worthy rose
Okay.
peak escarp
I hadn't seen the higher resolution version
but as Mercy is fond of pointing out, they can replace missing/nonfunctional eyes
worthy rose
What is the component that creates zaryas particle canon?
peak escarp
tobelstein reactor
worthy rose
Okay. This is also what Effie used when giving Orisa halt?
frosty shell
Admittedly that could be "fake" but prob not
neat pivot
You say "that one isn't fake" but really until/unless it's actually from Blizzard, we can't be 100% sure
Admittedly it's highly likely though I agree
peak escarp
it did come from Blizzard
chilly peak
the real question is, someone fucked up or it was a leak on purpose
worthy rose
well, most likely a mistake on the end of the mexican world cup twitter. they were probably sent all of the sigma-related stuff to post and got it muddled up or something with the role queue reveal posts.
Why would they send a screen shot of him as the highest played hero
I think this was on purpose
chilly peak
no, Mexico OWWC team only found it on official Overwatch website
worthy rose
Okay
worthy rose
We do also have to think that Sigma is important due to the hints we are receiving
peak escarp
every hero is important
worthy rose
Thank you Teko
Yes every hero is important. But the last couple of hero's just either fill gaps or were kinda out of the blue. Sigma will add new and Exciting lore
peak escarp
why do you think that?
hazy vortex
I guess it's pushing the boundaries of what's possible in OW
iron plume
yeah we figured
nocturne bolt
dva rule 34 🤩
worthy rose
Please tell me that old guy isnt sigma
worthy rose
Cmon, he looks unbelievably lame
There are so many more interesting looking people to choose from heck even sanjay has a better design
^^^
Junker queen, echo, big boss robot guy
iron plume
one 3/4 shot of just the face
apparently enough to determine design
and also no, junker queen does not lmao
worthy rose
Havent you seen the picture with the yellow suit?
peak escarp
it's hard to tell his design from just his face
iron plume
what are you on about
worthy rose
The "what is that melody" post
peak escarp
what about it?
worthy rose
Thats gotta be his suit or something
iron plume
I very much doubt it's going to be the main skin
peak escarp
it looks like a prison jumpsuit
iron plume
it's a precursor
crisp ferry
@worthy rose I mean, while his design may not look the best to you, that does not say that the abilities themselves will be "lame" as well.
iron plume
it also doesn't mean the design is
because you've seen one shot of half of a face
that's not even the model but the art, which often looks significantly different
worthy rose
Is he the terminator? Is the other half of the face gonna be fully robotic? Im sure that picture there gives a good description of him
I dont see why blizzard hasnt just given us echo or something
An already established character
hazy vortex
A terminator face would be a pretty large design point so I doubt it wouldn't be seen on the character portrait
crisp ferry
When Ashe was first put onto the PTR, her art was not finalized at all until like a week after she was there.
The same could apply to Sigma
But either way, I'm stoked for this new hero
worthy rose
I dont think ashe looked really any different from her art
Blizz keeps giving us names and not using them
"Ooo liao, ooo emre"
crisp ferry
Not very much no, but still just a point I wanted to put out there
worthy rose
And then never hear of them again
iron plume
because emre is literally filler
hazy vortex
Liao was likely scrapped
iron plume
and the story with liao was binned
crisp ferry
I honestly don't give a care in the world for the hero that we get next, I just want new heros 
worthy rose
I need lore
iron plume
if you're talking about echo, then the point at least has some value
until you realize that she's planned, just not the next one
as has been repeatedly stated
worthy rose
Yeah she wasnt the next
hazy vortex
I like game mechanics and abilities slightly more than lore so I like innovation in terms of abilities
hazy vortex
She'll appear after the past has been fully set up
iron plume
junker queen was also not designed as a hero
worthy rose
See, ana and sombra and moira and hammond and doomfist were great additions, because they were talked about/in the game already/ and have appeared
hazy vortex
She's key to the future (echo)
crisp ferry
Moira came out of the blue
worthy rose
Moira was shown in the comic
iron plume
moira appeared in one panel in the back
worthy rose
Yes
iron plume
and like two people even noticed her
worthy rose
That one panel
untold cradle
Lore-wise I think Sigma will be interesting at the very least. From what we've seen he's some sort of human test subject who was able to escape from whatever prison he's been locked in. We could get some really interesting stuff about other neutral/antagonistic forces outside of Talon.
iron plume
you're fitting the past to your argument
untold cradle
And I think Echo will probably be at Blizzcon.
worthy rose
But what did baptiste have?
hazy vortex
I don't want junker queen I don't think she'd be very interesting
iron plume
moira wasn't a character before the was a hero
worthy rose
I dont see why they dont just give us characters they have already made
hazy vortex
Oh shit that's an awful typo
iron plume
because they haven't made them as heroes
crisp ferry
wank
iron plume
or have other ideas
untold cradle
The only thing I could see us getting out of Junker Queen is maybe some more in-depth lore as to how Junkertown is actually operated or even more information regarding Australia.
iron plume
we can also have that without her being a hero through junk/hog stories
iron plume
queen has no reason to be a hero lorewise
untold cradle
And I prefer new heroes honestly. Taking ones that are pre-existing limits the lore you can really get out of them while new heroes build up the world more (which is what Sigma is looking like he's going to do rn).
iron plume
she'll become one if blizzard gets tired of the whining or if they come up with a gameplay-first hero they can put queen's face on
worthy rose
They dont have to make every npc a hero, but it sounds easier and better from a development standpoint to make established and worthy npcs to become heroes
iron plume
but she brings nothing lorewise as a hero
worthy rose
Im not saying that lynx or pompadour guy should be a hero
untold cradle
good example of pre-existing characters is Brigitte. We already knew about her backstory for the most part, so she didn't really bring anything new to the table. not saying it isn't bad to put in pre-existing heroes, but I think it's better for the time being to release new heroes in order to flesh out the world right now.
iron plume
brigitte brought some interesting stories out
but you can explore it without making heroes
untold cradle
Right now they're really just focusing on developing the past and neutral parties from the looks of it, so newer characters like Sigma makes sense.
worthy rose
I dont give a damn about sigma, give me lore on big boss omnic
iron plume
it being a character you don't know also doesn't mean he doesn't add to the story
baptiste did
worthy rose
Heck, give me lore on zenyatta please
crisp ferry
Well yes, while it'd be more beneficial for the team to make a hero that is already well known, a story has already been built around them and such, we have no idea how long certain characters have been worked on behind the scenes.
peak escarp
Zenyatta lore is coming Soon™
crisp ferry
We're supposed to be getting more lore on him soon I believe, don't know how soon, but soon
peak escarp
probably by the end of the year
iron plume
basically this all sounds like you decided you don't like sigma from one picture and are coming up with explanations to why it's not just "i don't like him"
worthy rose
I dont like him cause he looks lame and i wish other established characters that appear interesting to me would become the next hero
Thats me, obviously my opinion isnt law
But it is my opinion
untold cradle
I can understand where you're coming from (I personally thought Baptiste was kinda lukewarm compared to other hero releases), but at least try to wait until we've seen what he's all about
crisp ferry
Well, Sigma should be coming within the next couple days, so once gameplay and such is out, then you'll be able to get more a look at his character and loadout.
worthy rose
If it turn out that, the big boss omnic is just sigma in a mask then fine
Maybe sigma will be very cool, i hope he is
crisp ferry
Baptiste looks eh, design wise, but I love his loadout
worthy rose
I just dont have my hopes up
hazy vortex
I'm hyped for that omnic but he won't come for a while
Baptiste just feels like a massive filler heeo
worthy rose
It also concerns me that with the addition of random characters that the story isnt really going anywhere
Just diverting attention
peak escarp
most of the lore we have is in the present
worthy rose
We are still in recall
peak escarp
most of the comics/shorts take place around the time of Recall
iron plume
how the fuck is the first ex-talon hero a filler
iron plume
...what are you on about
peak escarp
Archives missions are in the past, as well as The Last Bastion, Legacy, Junkenstein and the flashback in Honor and Glory
worthy rose
So what is baptise just a good guy?
peak escarp
everything else is present day
iron plume
sure just skip over everything that comprises his character
mercy's just a goody oooooh
genji was edgy and now he isn't oooooh
hazy vortex
@iron plume his kit to me generally feels like it was put there to change the meta
worthy rose
Genji had character development within his short
iron plume
if anything a gameplay-first hero would have it more in focus
hazy vortex
I guess it may have been the execution
worthy rose
And reaper has had like more lore appearences than any other character in overwatch
hazy vortex
Probably because he's a stereotypical bad guy
worthy rose
I love soldier 76
He is rich with lore, and is a very strong character overall
Hes better off as a central character moreso than tracer imo
That's the thing tho
iirc, Chu stated he wanted to make every character feel like the main character. Like the MCU with their heroes and movies. They're each main characters in their own individual story and also main characters when they're together and established
If thats how he wants them all to feel
That probably isnt actuslly gonna happen
Imo tracer doesnt even feel like a main character
The only characters i get the feeling are central are reaper, soldier 76 and doomfist
untold cradle
the problem with Tracer is that nothing will happen with her in the present until the lore team feels confident that they have enough characters to start actually moving forward into the present 
worthy rose
Good one jeb, oh so true 
untold cradle
the next batch of heroes for a few years are mostly gonna just be world building or new characters that just cropped up in the present, and they most likely won't push the story forward at all.
which sucks since the lore will be stagnant in terms of actual conflict
worthy rose
Again imo i felt like the game had enough characters to progress the story even before ashe came out
peak escarp
there's another run of comics coming soon
I expect we'll see some story progression there
and maybe more in the next Overwatch game
worthy rose
We have the main characters, the anatagonists and some good side characters
untold cradle
hopefully, stagnating the lore for too long and just doing world building/past stuff is gonna get tiresome.
lament prawn
obviously since they haven't pushed the story forward yet, they feel like there's more backstory worth telling
worthy rose
Past ashe, the rest feel just unneeded
iron plume
baptiste is more relevant than half the original roster
lament prawn
we barely know anything about sigma
iron plume
especially after his story
untold cradle
IDK, there needs to be some more characters in the neutral column to really start getting the whole thing going.
worthy rose
What would you guys consider junk and road?
untold cradle
Since right now Overwatch is pretty much Tracer, Brigitte, Winston, and a few others.
worthy rose
They arent really with or against anyone at the moment
untold cradle
Chaotic neutral characters that most likely won't do much to affect the story unless someone offers them a reasonable sum of money.
lament prawn
winston, tracer, brigitte, mcree, reinhardt, uhhhhh
iron plume
winston, tracer, genji, rein, brigitte, torb, bastion, echo
worthy rose
Echo?
iron plume
mccree coming around soon
peak escarp
Genji and Torbjorn (with Bastion) are implied but not confirmed
iron plume
they're pretty heavily implied
lament prawn
"it's time to pick a side" i highly doubt this means anything but overwatch for genji
untold cradle
If the plot was to move along right now, would be too little characters on both sides and a large amount of neutral characters that aren't really on anybody's side
peak escarp
the neutral characters don't have to pick a side
most probably won't
I don't see Ashe or the Junkers picking to side with Talon or Overwatch
lament prawn
has mei reunited with the bunch yet?
peak escarp
yes
lament prawn
when?
untold cradle
Yeah, that's just the issue is that a good number of the cast won't really have a major part in the Overwatch vs. Talon conflict which is what the entire story is seemingly building up to.
worthy rose
Overwatches main base on watchpoint gibraltr has been like, compromised already
I wonder whats gonna be done with that
peak escarp
Mei left Antarctica, met up with Winston, then traveled up north to test her equipment before going to the Himalayas to investigate some abandoned research stations
untold cradle
you need to build more characters on both sides to really have this grand clash that they're going to have eventually.
peak escarp
during that time, her story got out and she became a bit of a celebrity
worthy rose
So I gotta ask
lament prawn
is there a comic or something that explores that or just a description?
worthy rose
Did Winston Set up shop in Kings row?
peak escarp
iron plume
he's at gibraltar
worthy rose
Cause there's a lot of Overwatch computers in the King's row attacker spawn
untold cradle
At present Winston is stationed in Gibraltar.
worthy rose
that have a lot of stuff that was similar to winston's computer in the attack watchpoint gibraltar spawn
lament prawn
if the conflict rises into a mini world war, it'll attract those capable but neutral characters, and they might pick a side
peak escarp
A little bit about me: my name is Mei (yes, that Mei!)
this phrasing implies that anyone reading Mei's journal might have already heard about her and her miraculous survival
worthy rose
Junk and road have 0 reason to join any battle
peak escarp
Mei's journal is also one of the few sources with dates
worthy rose
Im not even sure if they need money, theyv robbes so many banks and shit
iron plume
Maximillien might have a couple hundred thousand things to say about that
peak escarp
Talon could hire the Junkers (although I don't see why they'd want to - I'm sure they have better people for the job)
untold cradle
if I had to guess which neutral characters are going where:
Wrecking Ball obv joins Overwatch
Junkrat/Roadhog goes to whoever gives them the most money or ability to blow shit up (specifically omnics)
Hanzo is really undecided (I'd say Overwatch, but he's moreso leaning at just being a lone character who does what he has to)
Zenyatta will most likely stay neutral, but would obv oppose a group such as Talon
Lucio would join Overwatch if he isn't preoccupied with his music career
D.Va will most likely join Overwatch if given the chance
Pharah would join Overwatch
etc. etc.
lament prawn
i agree with pretty much all of that, jeb
peak escarp
my theory is that it's not a physical treasure, but a secret
worthy rose
If he found it in an omnium
lament prawn
then sombra knows it already lmao
worthy rose
Its gotta be something great
iron plume
I'd like to see mercy refuse
peak escarp
I think it's the reason the omnics woke up and started a war
lament prawn
i wouldnt
untold cradle
the point is that the majority of the neutral characters are heavily skewed towards Overwatch, don't care about either side, or will join whichever side pays them the most, so Talon would be understaffed if the plot suddenly just started to advance right now assuming that Overwatch can get an actual infantry force.
lament prawn
get the gang back together please
iron plume
but we might be going in with Baptiste coming for her
worthy rose
But what could that be doctor?
iron plume
She regrets joining the first time
iron plume
She shouldn't be a pushover
worthy rose
Junk is smart in some ways, but im not sure if he would be able to find something like that lying around
peak escarp
but that's a valuable secret Junkrat could have found in an omnium
he might not even realize what it is
lament prawn
mercy might be hesitant at first but might realize that lives lost without her aid will be higher than overwatch killing people that were bad anyway
untold cradle
If Junkrat is so protective of it, I highly doubt it's just money.
iron plume
she can help people without joining
worthy rose
Its been so long do ingame voice lines count as canon?
peak escarp
not in general
iron plume
joining again would be betraying her principles after regretting it the first time
untold cradle
Depends
peak escarp
they represent "what if" situations, but don't represent actual conversations
lament prawn
she can, but talon are assassinating civilians and neutral figures, so if she's going to oppose them she might as well join overwatch
untold cradle
some of them logically would be canon since the characters meet each other often enough for said conversation to probably happen (Sombra and Reaper)
peak escarp
if Hanzo knew about Junkrat's treasure, this is what he might say
iron plume
"might as well" is a pretty poor reason to make a life-changing choice that goes against your core pacifist principles
untold cradle
others are just "what if so and so met so and so"
iron plume
I think she might direct Baptiste to them
lament prawn
"my brother is dead" - hanzo finding junk's treasure
worthy rose
Mercys resolve needs to be tested honestly
iron plume
they need a doctor, and what better place to be if Talon is hunting you already
worthy rose
Someone needs to threaten her or her patients lives
See if she holds up that pacifist resolve
iron plume
and her joining overwatch wouldn't just be her resolve tested
but failing
lament prawn
whats the connection between mercy and baptiste and how could one influence the other
mercy is anti-violence and baptiste is a combat medic
iron plume
at the end of Baptiste's story he's going to meet her
peak escarp
they've worked together before
iron plume
he's met her briefly in her humanitarian efforts
and knows where she is from the recall thing
untold cradle
seems logical that they'd have a heart-to-heart and talk about stuff
worthy rose
3 doctors, good neutral and bad
iron plume
plus, Mercy's a combat medic too
worthy rose
I kinda like the dynamic in that sense
lament prawn
she has a pistol and she's a medic on the field, but she hates violence
iron plume
something something hacksaw ridge
lament prawn
(said pistol isnt even confirmed to exist lore-wise)
peak escarp
3 doctors? Mercy is the only one with an MD
untold cradle
If she was required to use a weapon, she probably just straight up wouldn't use it.
iron plume
moira might have one
untold cradle
Moira is a geneticist
iron plume
but the point is medics
peak escarp
maybe, but she could just have a Ph.D in genetics
iron plume
you can be both
lament prawn
but what if it was a case where either tracer dies or some rando talon trooper?
worthy rose
There are too many situations where she could be left vulnerable, having no weapon at that point is suicide
peak escarp
having an MD isn't required for that field
worthy rose
precisely the reason she has a gun ingame
untold cradle
then again we never know, maybe Mercy has her morals put to the test
worthy rose
for gameplay reasons too
iron plume
"situations where she could be left vulnerable" is why she has the wings
untold cradle
and again in-game stuff isn't taken as canon
iron plume
because unlike in game she can just fuck off wherever
lament prawn
mercy's morals being put to the test is probably one of the thing we'll see going into the future, and might be the thing leading her to make the decision to join overwatch
iron plume
and if Storm Rising cutscene is to be believed, her staff also stuns/blinds
lament prawn
she's publicly just such a loved and core figure, i cant see her staying out of it forever tbh
iron plume
she won't stay out of it
but if she joins that is her morals failing or being betrayed
worthy rose
Cant be a pacifist in the middle of a war
iron plume
i'd love to see them being put to test
worthy rose
Something has got to happen
lament prawn
actually, whenever we get a mercy short, it might revolve around this (considering a lot of the shorts are about characters' response to recall)
iron plume
but I'd like her to not be a spineless pushover that just follows the "good guys"
worthy rose
Maybe like tracer, she will fail to save people because of her actions
iron plume
because she's done that before and it led to the biggest regret of her life
lament prawn
poor tracer, she didn't know any better :(
worthy rose
Or maybe her actions will result in people dying indirectly, again similar to tracer
lament prawn
her in-game voiceline with genji about mondatta broke my heart
worthy rose
Maybe tracer shouldnt of messed around with widowmaker
lament prawn
"maybe the world would've been better off if it was me instead of him" - or something along those lines
worthy rose
"Trying to ruin the party love?" shut up and shoot the bitch
lament prawn
"psst, watcha lookin at?"
iron plume
and yes you can be a pacifist in a war
worthy rose
Tracer actually got more people killed because of her intervention
The short was just a massive fail on her part
worthy rose
Tracer got no love for security personel lol
lament prawn
@worthy rose that kind of stuff is to evoke character and add cinematic spice, like how the lighting is always perfect or characters pause to make things more dramatic. obviously in a real world scenario it would be beneficial to just shoot as soon as you can, but widowmaker dying there on the spot would have just been bad writing
yeah that one
worthy rose
Yeah i agree jupit, im just kinda bashing tracer lol
lament prawn
lmao
worthy rose
To be brutally honest i personally dont like her much as a character
lament prawn
i like her, especially considering her backstory
if you dont like these little chipper tracer lines, i dont know how you deal with the in-game version of d.va
untold cradle
gotta wonder how someone who basically didn't exist for a solid portion of her life is able to be one of the most optimistic characters in the game.
worthy rose
Atleast dva took it seriously when she was being attacked
lament prawn
that's exactly what i love about her
worthy rose
And was even willing to sacrafice herself
peak escarp
Tracer has a more lighthearted personality
lament prawn
we are hope, we are honor, we are courage, we are justice, we are compassion, we are determination
lament prawn
its in her
iron plume
tracer didn't fade out for that long
worthy rose
Tracer laughing around after widow just killed like 5 people is just..
Like cmon girl
peak escarp
that's just because of the rating
lament prawn
and they were wearing vests, those couldve just been ricochet (obviously injured still)
worthy rose
She shot like 3 of them with her sniper
peak escarp
those guards are probably dead or in serious condition
worthy rose
Which are shown to be lethal
lament prawn
dead or in serious condition in a real world scenario, she literally used one of the guys to catapult herself up if you look closely
thats not possible irl
peak escarp
it's like the guards in Volskaya Industries that Sombra gunned down
worthy rose
I dont think a security guards standard issue ballistic armor could stop a high tech sniper bullet
peak escarp
they're 100% dead
lament prawn
she was on auto fire
worthy rose
And the guys soldier killed
worthy rose
Some
lament prawn
we're not even meant to think about this stuff, but regardless we shouldnt be thinking about things realistically or how they'd play out irl
last i checked agents dont put on make up before a conflict
worthy rose
Mainly the ones he was punching rather than shooting
Point overall being that it was due to tracers inability to take the job seriously is what cost mondatta and those guards their lives
untold cradle
i mean this is the world where a talking gorilla who can create a time anchor for a peppy British woman who can manipulate her temporal state at will is also the leader of a fighting force of people such as women with unnaturally dangerous freeze gun, cowboy with robot hand, and literally autonomous robots.
lament prawn
women with unnaturally dangerous freeze gun doesnt fight on the field in the lore
untold cradle
meh, she's still a part of the group
lament prawn
but yes i agree with your point, its what i mean
untold cradle
real talk, her gun would actually be crazy dangerous if it worked like how it does in game.
worthy rose
Maybe it would just freeze them cartoony style
untold cradle
you wouldn't even need to shoot an icicle after you freeze someone; the freezing would just kill them straight up
worthy rose
Like not hurt them at all
lament prawn
i like how her voiceline where she giggles like a school girl is dedicated to when she gets a melee kill
worthy rose
Was there any given reason as to why her pod was the only one that stayed active?
lament prawn
what i like about the universe is that its leaning more towards the pixar side then the real life side, the side where we dont need to think about what caliber rounds they use on their weapons or how a certain ability or realistically possible or why a character wears soemthing inconvenient on the field. stories revolve around meaningful messages instead of irrelevent small stuff like that.
worthy rose
Mei: getting out, putting on some cute slippers and making tea
Her friends: long dead
lament prawn
(yawns) lmao my teammates are fucking dead
worthy rose
The scientists just fucking died
peak escarp
she was the only survivor by chance
lament prawn
that part got to me but i only cried during the snowball bit
peak escarp
the pods weren't designed to last 9 years
they probably weren't even designed to last 9 months
lament prawn
she kept the sensors on which is why the power ran out, she has to carry that weight
peak escarp
they were a short term solution to running out of supplies
lament prawn
also winston saved her life by sending the emergency message
peak escarp
yep
worthy rose
Boy i must say she got over them dying pretty quick
peak escarp
quick? she was crying for hours
lament prawn
not really, she persevered and knew that sitting around crying wasnt gonna help the other facilities that could be under a similar situation
worthy rose
Just hours?
peak escarp
you can tell by the lighting change, it implies time has passed
we don't know how much time, but I'd guess several hours
then she made up her mind and decided not to let their efforts go to waste
worthy rose
I go through a breakup and im done for a month lol
peak escarp
Mei is a very determined individual
worthy rose
Cant even imagine having all your friends suddenly die
lament prawn
why didnt she have a part in that theatrical teaser :(
peak escarp
they might not have designed her yet
lament prawn
imagine being physically ripped out of the concept of time and space
she was in the back in the group shot
worthy rose
Imagine being forgotten about for 9 years
lament prawn
imagine your brainwashed wife killing you
peak escarp
these heroes have a lot of traumatic backstories
worthy rose
Imagine being monkey
lament prawn
gorilla at least
"okay so basically my friend doesnt exist anymore but i made a glowy blue thing and made her exist again"
worthy rose
The chrono accelerator as a concept is a huge mindfuck
How someone would even build that is unbelievable
peak escarp
good thing it's sci fi and it doesn't have to be explained
lament prawn
i actually dont mind that at all
but its probably similar tech to what was made for the slipstream
peak escarp
I'm satisfied as long as there's an explanation for why it works in-universe
worthy rose
I thought the slipstream was an invisibility jet
limpid agate
It was a teleporting jet
lament prawn
worthy rose
I see overwatch went all event horizon on this
It doesnt teleport, it travels though time
peak escarp
Winston probably reverse engineered it to make the chronal accelerator
the Slipstream teleports the same way Tracer does - by fast-forwarding to where it will be
lament prawn
she must be speeding up her momentum too, otherwise she wouldnt be able to blink up into mid air like we know she can - although this can easily be one of the unexplained cinematic convenience things
worthy rose
Ask todd howard
peak escarp
it's hard to make out the first couple characters due to the drawn-on shine
worthy rose
So what are the theories on this guy?
limpid agate
I have more anti-theories than theories
worthy rose
Shoot
limpid agate
I speculate he is NOT:
- Greek
- Related to the company Sigma
- Related to Overwatch (my fault for starting that one)
- An omnic
- Or cyborg
- Emre
- Liao
worthy rose
The thing says subject sigma
lament prawn
where did omnic even come from
worthy rose
Someone guessed prisoner earlier
lament prawn
hmm yes human face, defo omnic
limpid agate
A lot of people were guessing he was the omnic from Storm Rising