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I think Sigma's picture is editted in or it's not done yet, on the top its overlapping the square (?)
But i dont want to assume anything so
the other hero images overlap the square by 1 pixel too
it's just not as noticeable because of the images
Ohh i guess it's just a little more obvious then
My bad 😂
Sigma is a greek letter correct?
yes
I think hero 31 will be added with the patch that brings Role Queue
so Sept 1
which is a Sunday
maybe the Tuesday after, if they're keeping with major patch days
I think it's safe to assume that even if it isn't Sigma it'll come around the role queue at least considering the hints they dropped.
so the hero will be revealed and put on PTR about 3 weeks before that
Jeff has basically confirmed Sigma.
'And by mystery I mean not at all.' Unless we get any conflicting evidence, Sigma will be Hero 31.
we don't know who Sigma is
I heard there was a company referenced in numbani called Sigma
there is
this Sigma could be related to the company
or it could be completely unrelated
I would prefer a new hero that ties into the main storyline and gives us more lore, i highly doubt he's related to anything for all we know.
He looks cybernetic. Maybe a cybernetic company akin to the one Doomfist's family owned?
I would rather have more information on characters we already know
Sigma is a fashion company
Yeah i don't think he's working alongside a fashion company
He doesn't look like the happiest person. Too soon to call but he seems a bit evil.
He has an angry/disgruntled expression
he has a similar expression to all the other heroes
his design doesn't match with Talon
looking at the expressions on characters like tracer, d.va, hammond, compared to the likes of widowmaker and doomfist, we have something to work with at least
very little to the point where it almost doesnt count though
McCree has a sort of grimace/disgruntled expression
i wish the icons would be more in character like the ones we have in the corner of the screen while playing
and the end cards and select screen
mei's seems right
those are from the concept art
because that's how the hours played looks in the game?
because the concept art is the official design of the hero
They would basically have to make even more art which costs a ton of time and most people don't mind.
its not an issue for me or anything, i was just weirded out that they use concept art from when the character wasnt even fleshed out lore-wise and such
i mean they already have the icons we see in the select screen
Is Scion canon?
What's Scion
If you mean the car company
Probably not
No one is driving Fords or Hondas in Overwatch
I think they mean the Hanzo skin
whatever's canon has the little box with a description of where its from right?
some have descriptions and aren't canon
There are canon skins without that (Frosted Zarya) and non-canon skins with that (Irin Doomfist)
ohhh, i always just assumed she did that at some point knowing it wouldn't be relevant to the plot but would make for a cool skin
Wait torbjorn never been a Deadlock gangster?
nope
@GeekInfinitero I can safely say Torbjörn was not in the Deadlock gang.
:(
!!shitposting @unkempt plover
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Looks like Jeff indirectly confirmed Sigma
I can't believe they leaked it by accident last night I wasn't even paying attention during the meetings 
In the #1 spot is his portrait
This would be the 3rd one?
If its not Hamid/Emre/Liao
Yes
And even if he is Emre or Liao
He could not have been predicted
So sigma
Should've called him ligma
!!shitposting @worthy rose
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That is an Omnic
Not a cyborg
The Storm Rising Omnic is 0% human
Its an omnic
Most likely part of the omnic supremacy/human genocide Null Sector
If not its leader
so sigma is hero 31?
apparently
is this the first time blizzard has let this slip?
Directly themselves
Yeah
Usually its been a leaker doing stuff behind a wall of anonymity
This was Blizzard directly making the mistake when talking to OWWC Gms
owwc gms?
Overwatch World Cup officials for teams and shit
Should they change the name of torbjorn's skin (deadlock) to avoid confusion?
Maybe
i mean it is a deadlock skin, its just not canon
what do yall think about Sigma
I want mauga
yeah same
As long as he's gonna be a tank it's cool, the game really needs one.
I hope he's a tank and we get mauga as a damage instead and he's like an improvement on bastions kind of design
Also rip brigettes viability
i think we have to wait for mauga te be more revelant to the lore
he has a very huge potential
Not really
How relevant or irrelevant to the lore a character is doesn’t make them a playavle character. Zen, DVA, Lucio, Sym, Ashe, and Wrecking ball are all completely irrelevant to the main conflict of the story and are doing their own thing
And they are all playable characters
Mauga is most definitely in the works but I guess they wanted to add (what I assume is a dps) Sigma more
To do with... What?
The company sigma
Do we know any other hero codenames other than Orisa === Anchora?
Tracer = Lena Oxton
the new hero is ligmaÉ
!!shitposting @river sigil
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@quiet oracle Yes
Ana = Alchemist
Pharah = Rocket Queen
Genji = Hanzo
Baptiste = Gadget
Brig = Paladin
Mei = Frostbite
I think McCree was just cowboy but don't remember where I read or heard that
Assuming Sigma is the codename, I wonder if he has anything to do with "adds"
how is a play on words shitposting
yes
Final warning. Take your Sigma Balls or Ligma hero 31 shitposting outside.
lol
It’s real
If it actually is, a lot of people on here were bamboozled hard
it doesnt look photoshopped and it was on an official blizzard blog post so its probably legit
it comes from a legit source
and papa jeff acknowledged that sigma is "not a mystery to him"
Does he have to be 31 though?
They always have heroes in development
It's also a temp art
I dont think that that look and name are settled
the art might be a placeholder
Why would the art be placeholder
Because you don't like the character design?
Its on par of quality with the rest of them
These are the same people that, while getting explicit teases of Brigitte's flail and shield, kept saying "BUH-BUH-BUT IT MIGHT BE A RED HERRING"
"JETPACK CAT JETPACK CAT"
I think sigma is just Mama Hong in a mask and wont be convinced otherwise
a surprising number of people think Sigma is the Storm Rising omnic in disguise
which is stupid
It's a tank, most likely
If you look at the pic, the account didn't place in support, and only had play time/ranking on tank and dps
Slim?
All we have is a headshot
Lots of heroes look pretty slim for being tanks
And can you say with certainty that Sigma does not operate a tank, or is not rather bulky underneath his headshot
You're right, we can't really speculate too much
Looking at his potential possibilities
but we haven't had a slimmer tank/off-tank for a while
Also, Jeff said that its going to be a 'dramatic week'
Maybe an official announcement or teaser this week?
possibly
Would be nice
he might have been referring to the week that role queue gets added
not this week
it would make sense that hero 31 goes live right after
I mean when it goes live
Features usually stay in ptr for like 3 weeks, right
so the end of Summer Games sounds right
it goes live on QP and PTR on Sept 1st
which sunday though
the 1st
The 1st is a thursday
september 1st
I made the same mistake earlier
but he could be referring to this week
it has already been an exciting week
I mean, dramatic can mean a lot of things
Summer Games, role queue announcement
Probably a teaser
im surprised how many people wanted a "talon tank" in the higher ranks, i assumed no one up there cared about their in-universe role or lore
they want a tank
and some people wanted a Talon tank, so they just started repeating that
ah
people have this idea of making an all Talon team, and for that they need a tank
well, technically now they need 2
whenever i see a winston and a mercy on my team or something, im more inclined to pick a hero like tracer over sombra, so i dont blame them lmao
not comp tho, i just play casually
people will jump at whatever the youtubers say
so if they say "Mauga is hero 31!", they'll believe it
There has never once been an official statement saying Mauga is hero 31
Anyone "mislead" just doesn't know how to use their brain
Also, this doomfist in the game is the 3rd one, right?
Yes
The third one is the one that attacked Numbani and destroyed the OR-15s?
Yes
The Scourge also terrorized Numbani
But that was before he was killed by Akande 6-7 years ago
Is there a !!wiki Scourge I could use
!!wiki Doomfist_(title)
For more information about the game, please refer to the wiki: https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Doomfist_(title)
yep
Akande killed Akinjide to take his title
we don't know how Akinjide got the title though
There's a South African translator who recently joined Contenders with us, and mentioned that their names have relevancy to their respective titles
iirc The Scourge's name has something to do with a strong king returning
Straight and to the point
Honestly everyone is saying that the leak was a mistake but i highly doubt they wouldnt have seen it.
You'd be surprised with some of the stuff that gets cleared.
Different people are in charge of different things
Some don't think anything strange when they see the character thats been in their internal builds forever. Apparently even some people who were shown the Sigma leak didn't even notice Sigma wasn't a hero.
Not to mention, the hero is usually announced by this time. Some people may have just not gotten the timing right with Sigma and Role Queue timings, and had the image cleared, but for the wrong date
There are a lot of people involved in the chain from creating that piece of art to releasing it. Any one of them could have made the mistake.
I think that Sigma definitely is coming, but I dont think he will be the next hero. It wouldn't surprise me at all if theres multiple new heroes in their builds.
Wouldnt make sense for this particular leak
Hero 32 would not be released before World Cup
Hero 31 would
I want some delicious omnic lore
@teal meadow The Sigma thing was 100% a mistake. They specifically asked the World Cup members to not share it as it wasn't meant to be shared to us.
As for other leaks like 2/2/2 that's debatable but for Sigma we ALL were dogged about it getting out
When is zen gonna get some lore
never
@hallow vessel @upbeat oracle Zenyatta lore is confirmed to be coming soonâ„¢
So probably by Blizzcon
Nice
zenyatta short?
Jeff just said shit loads so probably
i have a feeling a zenyatta short is gonna be a very emotional one
probably combating rise and shine
i hope its just 15 minutes of him and genji meditating
I've been waiting for forever for some lore for him
im gonna be honest and say his lack of lore really impacted how much i can appreciate him as a character
i'd be the one hoping for a mercy short, or something revolving around the core overwatch/talon teams
I hope its him doing some yoda type shit
Or him to be like the supreme sorcerer from doctor strange
so, does brig have feelings for reinhardt?
no
idk if there's actual canon for that, but seems plausable
he's her godfather
her having romantic feelings for Reinhardt would be gross
well there hasn't been any evidence to suggest it
she views him as a mentor and father-figure
Rein is a hunk though, even if Brig doesnt see it
not going to deny that
"she views him as a father figure" no wonder she mentioned him twice in her hero trailer and said absolutely nothing about torbjorn lmao
Torbjorn is in her origin story
he just isnt as big of an influence on her as Reinhardt
i meant her like in-game "now playable" trailer thing
"when my godfather joined overwatch" "my name is brigitte lindholm, squire to reinhardt wilhelm" and no mention of torb
I guess Torb just isn't as important to her
I came and showed it after Team Mexico leaked it 👀
They had 12 hours to delete it and didnt
whaddaya gonna do
lol
Sigma was leaked thanks to OWWC
The image comes from WC officials and gms talking to Blizz
Wasn't it also on the Mexican Blizz website
And the official Mexico Twitter had the screenshot (which does mean it was World Cup, but it wasn't just a private discussion)
I wonder, why is the new hero taking longer than usual
Role Lock
I'm actually curious, maybe this is completely off, but if you look at the eyes of the omnic, you can form the greek letter Sigma with them
Maybe a coincidence, idk
Sigma is not an omnic
Maybe the omnic is controlled by Sigma/was created by him?
If you look at the eyes of the omnic
They look like 2 parts of the Greek letter Sigma
Which omnic
!!wiki Unnamed_Omnic
For more information about the game, please refer to the wiki: https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Unnamed_Omnic
Also his hood
His hood is not a Sigma
I did
1 sec
ty
it has similarities, imo
You can use the same argument to say it looks like a Y
Though the color schemes don't seem to work out
Sigma looks blue/grey, and the Unnamed Omnic is purple/dark
Sigma's colour scheme suggests a link to Overwatch
Preadtor's colour scheme suggests a link to Null Sector
Compare the blue on Sigma
To the Blue on Overwatch uniforms
I think its too deep to be compared to the blue of Vishkar
What are you guys talking about?
I mean, he has to be connected to Sigma Bot Couture
Probably the CEO/Founder
They create apparel for omnics
and operate in Numbani
Did I miss anything?
He also looks to be a cyborg
I'm just thinking about the Ana in-game teasers. Didn't all of them have her wearing her futuristic-type mask?
I remember people speculating that she was an omnic
I dont
I remember people going crazy about her being Sombra
Even after she was revealed
There's also a Sigma building in the DF origins
Which means its a pretty big corporating
corporation*
Its in Numbani/Sydney as well
@limpid agate it is a sigma symbol
What is a Sigma symbol
Numbani, Singapore, Sydney
yes
clever logo design
people are stretching so hard to connect Sigma and Predator
tbh if they turned out to be the same person that would be a waste of a good hero design
It makes no sense
Its just people wanting to make connections for the sake of making connections
Or trying to connect everything that was introduced in the last few months
Like all the people speculating Mauga became Predator after WYLB
Even though that's literally impossible
Or Junkerqueen rolls up into Wrecking Ball to pilot it despite being a human and the mech being short.
Just because she was in the poster in the background.
Or Echo has to be Athena because they're both robots
Or Athena has to be tied to Anubis because they're both AIs named after gods.
Although that Echo thing did have some confusion with her past designs having the Athena logo
Also reminds me of the days where everyone was Liao, Ana was Sombra, and Doomfist was a monkey
Also too many people insist he has to be Greek because Sigma is a greek letter
Its possible
But not certain
And not a safe assumption
Greek letters are too ingrained in science, math, and technology.
If we had characters labelled alpha and beta, few people if any would assume they were Greek
if people want to connect him to a Greek character, Ionnidas exists
I wonder, did they have Sigma planned all the way back when Numbani was released
Or did they just take the opportunity
I mean, why would they put the Sigma building in so many places if it didn't hold any significance
How many Kofi Aromo locations are there
That's true
But I feel like they placed it in so many places it has become a joke
or like an Easter Egg on certain maps
I mean like the fact they placed it on so many maps
its cool
and its not even just buildings, there are coffee cups and boxes etc.
Where did the name 'predator' come from? Did someone just make it up?
Maybe Sigma will be Greek, I remember ages ago when there was hype over some Greek voice actor being hired
j
@neat pivot yes
Just wondered why it's being used as if it's his official/decided moniker
Need something to call it
is it true that zen will be getting a lore soon
Yes
I hope
Hopefully
http://prntscr.com/ohpsh6 design feels way too close to wrecking ball to be a coincidence
although probably not lore related, just a prototype mech they put in the background and then used the design for hammond
Very little from the Cinematic Trailer is lore related.
some of the stuff in the gallery are beta designs
it looks like Sigma is the math function, not the Greek letter
have you guys seen the teaser from the twitter account yet?
yes
holy shiet that's huge
that little transition from jeff to the formulas looks kind of like the black hole picture for a split second, if that means anything
I think that's intentional
Sigma likely has some connection to physics
either in lore or abilities
formulas for velocity and mass in a circular motion
the stuff in the background after that is some university level shit
i think the leak from 2 days ago was in purpose
formulas are gravity related, possible hint at his abilities
the music could also be important, but I don't have any ideas
Winston is also a scientist, could be connected to him
does winston have a specific field that he studies?
also i couldn't use shazam or google to figure out what the song was
Perhaps it was an original score?
Where we should take the notes and analyze it based on the notes given??
Idk how one would go about that but it's a suggestion
might be a homage to something if it's original
Also true
for a second I thought it was the Overwatch theme in a minor key, but it isn't
It's more ominous than the Overwatch theme
Astrophysics and music. Where's the connection :D
Also idk if it's just because Insta AND Twitter is weird when it comes to audio compression but it sounds kinda like Jeff's voice is at a higher frequency in the post than it does in other dev updates
So something could be hidden there
@peak escarp maybe simply connected to ow scientists
Or they just didn't sound treat it or again weird compression
The music in the background sounds too creepy for being a good guy tho
steganography! guys
hiding data in music
the audio file seems too simple to juet be a chime or something.. there might be something hidden in there
Hey guys, today is 50th Anniversary of Moon Landing. I think there might be a connection
prob another ARG??
AH SO PERHAPS NOT A WEIRD COMPRESSION THING THEN!!!
How does one seperate that tho @undone ivy
All the more reason for them to put one in to throw us off
think about the WOW signal astrophysists detected ears ago
They are afraid of doing ARG, because of community backlash. Not "they don't like those"
I was trying to be succinct
Let ma translate that weird word
we did talk about it
About zennyata lore?
yes
And there's little to talk about it
Zen lore coming Soonâ„¢
Just Soonâ„¢
Probably a short for blizzcon
Back to arg, I would love to have another ARG, but more compacted, like everyday for one week
so the "orb : in the teaser is related to the iris?
Maybe another Omnic Monk
it's a black hole
prob an alien.... i mean.. who says the OW universe cant have aliens
aliens are very unlikely
I have to agree
It's too much for their story right now
They would be introducing a huge story with aliens that would distract from the current one
introducing an alien would have bigger implications from the universe of the story
and it wouldn't just be about Earth anymore
well one thing thats consistent in Blizzard games are different races....
anyone compare the equations to that of the classroom in oasis/
?
No idea
UNLESS.... zen was a normal onmic and a certin "energy" came over him that made him sentient
Arent omnics basically fulfilling the alien role anyway
i mean zen is the only one that talksi about the iris
Zen is the only Omnic Monk we hear talking
The others we kinda know are there
But don't really hear from
Schrodinger's cat kinda thing I think
Came out of nowhere suddenly, terrifying war, now some are living peacefully, some are discriminated against, and some wanna start pew pew again. It reminds ne a bit of District 9 or something
Mondatta talked
Shoot I forgot about mondatta
Zen and Mondatta are the only Shambali monks we have seen, and they both speak
He was the one assassinated right?
yes
Get down Mr Mondatta
I can't check Oasis because there are no custom games on the PTR right now
Can you check in the main game??
So.. what about the dark onmic.....
check these out
zen's healing orb
The dark onmic's "gift" to katya
they don't look all that similar
none of those look like a black hole
except for being orbs
Ohhh I think I see what your saying
we're not TOO sure its a black hole...
There's the Discord Orb The Healing Orb and there may be a third
it looks more similar to the discord if anything
it looks like one
How many heroes have or had confirmed relationships
it acts like one
Maybe Athena?
no
If it's sciencey stuff related to Winston
finally a new ARG!
no
no
maybe
they wont start an ARG now and then end it on tuesday
Wait where are you getting Tuesday from?
Also, Sigma is 100% a tank. I am confident
Sigma = codename??
In the initial leak they placed tank at 2333. They have 9 minutes on sigma and 1 on D.va, so that adds up to barely enough to place the tank category
what's wrong with Sigma?
what are you, 12?
wtf is your problem?
grow up
Why do I need to grow up? I just pointed it out, Im not gonna be making any ligma jokes, but there will definitely be other people making it. Since you're calling me a 12 year and saying I need to grow up for pointing that out, I think youre the one who needs to grow up
:)
there's nothing wrong with Sigma
characters take names from Greek letters all the time
Sigma is a greek letter. I have my money on Sigma being a Greek Astrophysicist or in some form of physic-based science.
character*
I have a feeling the Overwatch World Cup Ireland team confirmed it was a black hole in the comments
well its obviously something with a massive force of gravity because of what happened to jeff
so yeah probably something like that
The official tweet said something along the lines of 'Jeff is inside a black hole! like the chances of south korea beating us'
yeah but the world cup team twitters are run by their general managers and staff
so its not official
Insider knowledge though
I bet Sigma will come to PTR next week then be released fully on August 13th or September 1st. Unless they ARE doing an ARG, then it may be longer.
I'd say a reveal next week is likely
they arent a part of blizzard and i dont think they would give out such information to a world cup team
If its an ARG, which I hope it is, it wont be next week
I would despise an ARG. I think they will cut it short, there will be maybe 1 or 2 more teasers then the reveal.
in order for it to be an ARG people would have to find clues
How many canonical romantic relationships are there, both ongoing and ended
if sigma speaks greek ill be able to understand what he says when the enemy sigma ults
why would you despise an ARG?
they messed up that one
THE arg WAS NOT BAD.. IT WAS JUST TOO LONG
they didnt think people would find everything out so fast
It was bad because it was long
Blizzard aren't in a position to string impatient people on even longer for a possible mediocre hero. They are trying to get the hype back.
@worthy rose Ana and Sam, Amelie and Gerard, Tracer and Emily, Jack and Vincent (and if you want to include non-Hero characters, Guillermo and Miguel)
a good way to get hype back is through an ARG
and Torbjorn and Ingrid
I hope its an ARG, I would love an ARG as long as they have learnt from the sombra arg and make it have the proper length
😂
is the music in the teaser a known classical piece?
not one I recognize
Someone had the idea of sigma having a taunt ability or being able to pull bullets and objects to him
Sounds really cool
@peak escarp oh dont forget Torb. Guy has like 50 childen with his wife
yes, I added that after
@primal sand Feynman diagram. describes what happens when particles collide over time
so sigma might be hero with quantum powers
Or she
and there is photo of him on mexican ow twitter
what you people mean by "arg"?
I just want athena in the game
next hero is sigma..
Its not 100% confirmed, but its likely
Sigma is a particle in physics... the forumlas is to do with gravity ad vilocity
it's 99.9% confirmed
yea, so i said likely
maybe he affects gravity/slows enemies
expect probably relpcation of teammates / entire team
Where are you getting this from
could be a second speed boosting hero
'expect'?
I hope sigma will teleport enemies like 4th Hokage
Affecting gravity would really counter Pharah
I mean, affecting gravity would be kinda cool I guess
But that could be a coincidence
The name Sigma can reference a lot of things
why am i hearing so much talk about him being a fashion designer?
In the Twitter video from today there was a Piano
i mean it wouldnt be too far-fetched, we have a gamer and a DJ
Classical pianist
they probably aren't related
Maybe
Perhaps is just that he likes listening to piano
opposite Lucio!!
I mean, it has something to do with gravity for sure
Probably
If you look at the Twitter video
So the Sigma mathematical reference could be accurate
Something to do with music
and gravity
We can't make any assumptions
We don't even know that Sigma is in anyway related to Gravity
It might not be related to Sigma, but its likely
I don't think so
He might've contributed to the technology (if we are going with the gravity theory)
but I don't think he specifically created hers
There's lots of electro-magnetism in there and a feynman diagram which are used in quantum physics. We don't really know how far the science in the OW universe is so who knows, he might have found a way to unify field theory or something like that.
unless, the sigma post is just a mis direction and the next hero is from Lijang Tower. remember when there was some map activity surrounding Horizon? what if the next hero is from there?
Didn't see any particular pattern in the music but I haven't looked much into it.
Was the horizon map change never relevant to anything since then?
the Horizon map change was for Hammond
or whet if another scientist from the mei short survived.
Could be but I think they were biologists
climatologists
they're all dead
This seems really applied physics-esque
unless it was just mei
they had different specializations
mei was the climatologist
and they're all still dead
and aren't getting not dead
Mercy is a thing Kappa
then that leaves 2 scientists on the OW universe that we know about.. Winston's trainer and the owner of the wheelchair in lijang
they basically have time travel and are comfortable with putting buildings on the moon, they just want to get creative but without breaking the boundary into the "magic" area
Mercy cannot resurrect people
there's a whole bunch on the Oasis council
^We dont know abut them
I mean, it seems pretty clear it's Sigma, from Jeff's reaction and all.
Plus Sigma and equations just goes so well together
plus their occupation
which is about as much as we do for the owner of the wheelchair
wasnt lieo a scientist?
we don't know anything about what Liao did
isnt the hero at the start of a dev update usually somewhat relevant to whatever's shown?
they showed torbjorn for the workshop update
not always
He seems like an intellectual. Well, of course he does.
Might just be overcomplicating things but Jeff was wearing a Lucio Tshirt. Maybe a reference to Lucio's old time slowing ultimate?
it was pre-beta
during development, Lucio had an ult that stopped/slowed time for everyone
definitely something to do with music, that could be all the connection there is between sigma and lucio
they decided it wasn't very fun to play against
sounds like a tracer-ish ult, if her accelerator worked a bit differently
i think the best way to speculate at this point is his name, but the general meaning of it as opposed to looking too closely into things
look at how other hero's call signs relate to them as a character
"tracer" she's literally a trace, jumping from place to place and time hopping
"mercy" designed to look like an angel, anti violence, gives people a second chance
i dont know what you guys have come up with so far
although some heroes literally just have their name as their title, like mei
i doubt sigma is his real name though
huh
yeah, i dont know how pharah could be considered merciful
not that her character cant show mercy, i mean her general abilities and gameplay
literally air strikes people
I still can't get over "angelica"
her real name is angela
yeah but angela is normal
outside of mercy when I hear Angela I think Merkel
when I hear Angelica i imagine a bitchy valley girl
wasnt tracer's name like "jumper" or something back then lmao
there was also a "brit"
and yeah tracer was Jumper, although that was back when they were Titan classes
we don't know if the name changed at the same time or later
I mean the whole fantasy is that she's an Angel right? Makes sense to go for Angelica in concept design
i doubt those were meant to be final, "jumper" and "angelica" sound like names you'd toss out the second you see the concept art
can we have mama hong already
the best hero from that grid is McCloud
it dont have to me male. or even looks like the leak...
lmfao
remember they use symm's skin to teat all heroes
hero 31 is male
*test
I like how they have concept ability names but we won't ever know what most of them were. For example "Pistol", "Resurrect", "sniper rifle"
McCloud lives on in that one painting on kings row
I actually never noticed 😶
pistol sounds like its just mercy's caduceus pistol, and resurrect was her ult
sniper rifle was probably widow's kiss
No I was kidding, I was more referring to stuff like "Only one" and "Stampede"
"Only one" is probably some sort of passive
And maybe he could summon the horse equivalent of Bob
High IQ guess
wait what, d.va brit had "attack mech" and "support mech"?
these were just concepts
nothing made, just ideas
they probably decided having two mechs was a pain, so they changed it to one which ended up being a pain anyway
she's already pretty unique in the sense that she's one hero with two different "modes" one in which she ults to get to the second mode (baby d.va) and then ults a second time to get back to her first mode (meka), i'd like another hero like that
not necessarily a mech pilot, just someone with two modes somehow
hey just because she eats your deadeye doesnt mean she's a pain
I meant a pain for the devs
D.Va is glitchy because she's technically two heroes
and swapping between them can break the game and spawn her outside the map
this is why another mech hero that can be de-meched is very unlikely to happen
oh huh? did that used to be a bug or something?
it still is
It's very rare now
you see clips of it all the time
there was also that mech duplication bug not too long ago
i knew she'd definitely need more work, two movement sets and walk cycles, two variations of her voicelines (one with the gamey radio filter and one without) and an extra emote, but figures there'd be trouble considering she's the only one of her kind
i think it would be pretty cool if they could adapt the meka emotes to baby d.va so she could perform all of them, but people barely stay in her small form anyway
Honestly if not for her (fairly average) ultimate they'd probably scrap the idea. It probably sounded like an advantage at first but more often than not it's a hindrance.
i lowkey wanted to have a hammond equivalent of baby d.va, but they would be far too similar
they already are considering he stole her victory pose
im the kind of person that cares more for details and one of a kind special cases like d.va where they had to put in extra work than hardcore competitive gameplay, there's not much for me too see in, say, a game like cs:go, but that game seems perfect for the more competitive types
Really bad figuring out work from me:
enjoy
(If thats true then the overwatch universe is headed to a dark place)
4:30 22/7
With alt symbol code, I figured out that it maybe will be it, however Its 100% not true and if it is then jeff is captive in torb's basement.
what
what
That's a shit post and a half
it's a teaser for Sigma
I don't think Ashe had her art when she was released, or at least in the test servers.
The formula at the bottom of the tweet doesnt say anything meaningful as far as I can fathom apart from the music or sound is important
what do you mean
i saw a lucio shirt and was thinking lucio cinematic first
Ashe came from the animated short - of course she had art
It's odd to specifically put note emojis in that 'equation '
or rather lucio stole the tech irc
Lucio's tech was made by his father
Ima send the tweet to one of incredibly musically talented friends to see if they can fathom the notes
who worked for Vishkar
sigma coworker?
I think the notes are important or the sound
i dont know how any of it works but if that was meant to be a black hole and has any relation to the way time works, then i dont think tracer being at the start of the dev update is a coincidence
I think I recall from Cicada 3301, where a message was encrypted into a song.
Requiring a MIDI converter to somewhat figure it out, or something.
Perhaps it will spell out something or have something to do with a cypher
For reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMz6gLiCFvo
I think it will definitely be that midi thing
And the formula at the bottom of the tweet will help us with decode it
I think you're overthinking it
The lucio T shirt and the notes just are pointing at sound far too much to be a Coincidence
https://youtu.be/svJF_FoSI9o Play at 13:10
the Lucio shirt could be referencing an ability to speed people up
or it could be completely unrelated
it's not that emphasized
the equations are mathematical formulas for calculating orbital gravity and escape velocity
the note emoji suggests the lucio shirt, if put there deliberately, is there to suggest something about music not speed
Soundwaves?
maybe Sigma is a classical pianist
Materialized Soundwaves.
although it could be both music and speed
Quickly pointing out, I don't think sigma is a music based character, I think that the music is important to finding out more about the hero
Sigma to me is definitely a scientist
Do the music sound like it comes from a certain country perhaps?
Music is a wave. Waves are a key part of physics. Further leading to him working in a physics-based field of science
I would love to know the name of that piece though.
Most likely
My musical friend would know instantly if it was a traditional piece
But he's not around at the moment so I can't ask
combining the fact that it cut jeff off mid-video, and the ringing and distortion at the end, perhaps he has some sort of disruption ability like sombra
Right now, anything is possible
I'm going to try to figure out the notes myself
It sounds like a harmonic scale unless I'm completely tone death
Which is possible
Ye it's not harmonic
Teh more I listen to it, the more chiling it gets
spooky music
It's is really creepy
I can't work it out, the only instrument I can play right now is my melodica, which is shit at note finding
I only got as far as figuring out the first note is most likely a D
It's not a D scale though
Im gonna make a hard prediction. Sigma uses quantum entanglement and shares damage / effects
It goes D, high note, note that's a tone or semitone lower, another tone lower, D for the first section
I don't think theres a whole lot of significance in the song now apart from its just meant to be super chiling
I'm done, it just creeps me out so much for no apparent reason
It sounds a bit like fur elise, so perhaps it has a central European origin
nah it is definitely meant to be an unnerving peace of music. Sigma is being built up to be a smart and unnerving character.
Sigma is most likely Greek in my eyes. But a Ukrainian/Belarusian hero or any other Middle Eastern country is on the table
Could be Greek
Can't wait for Tuesday, fingers crossed he is released then.
I want a game changer, come on blizzard don't disappoint me 
we might get more teasers before then
I think they might do a follow up on the video already posted?
What, in your opinion, would be a possible pattern for teasers? Every other day?
there isn't really a pattern
0-4 teasers, starting 2-11 days before the hero reveal
sometimes they're sequential days, sometimes they skip a day, sometimes they skip a few days
The problem with trying to confirm origin, is the middle east didn't have a huge musical presence in the 17th century or earlier that can be found on the Internet
Blizzard better release a full version
Or give us an origin
there will be an origin story when he gets formally announced
probably with art from Nesskain
By origin I meant the origin of the song, perhaps in another teaser so we can gauge a bit more about the character
My guess is that he's most likely an astrophysicist who discovered how to alter the fabric of space-time to a degree where he can warp and manipulate matter and potentially create wormholes in space. The menacing music could mean that he's using his technology for his own personal gain or could be affiliated with Talon or some generally antagonistic force in the Overwatch universe.
My bet he is minister of astrophysics in Oasis
Maybe they made some changes to map? It may be worth looking for
discovered how to alter the fabric of space-time, you say? perhaps we'll find out who made slipstream possible and why tracer is the way she is with her chronal disassociation
Well, who designed Zarya's weapon?
Since it's A, a particle beam, and B, a singularity generator, which draws people together.
I assume it was made by the Russian military, since she ripped it off of a tank
I can’t wait for the science conferences he’ll hold with Moira, Winston and Mei
Science comp let’s go
Mercy is a scientist too
i play overwatch to get away from physics math and now there is physics math in my overwatch. Oh well, black hole here we go.
zenyatta is going to get a short :0
Hopefully I can’t wait
?
jeff mentioned it during seagull interview
Oh nice
said something is coming for zenyatta lore that is taking a lot of work
Is storm arrow Canon?
we dont know
richochet arrow thingy is, but that was his ability at the time
its like mercy’s caduceus pistol, we’ve never seen it in the lore
though it makes sense she’d have it, its a pistol dedicated to her and she would need something for self defense on the field
unless she goes full stick fighter and uses her caduceus staff instead, now that would be cool
Anyone got rainbow?
^
^
They aren't salty
In my opinion yes :)
Oki back to lore! What this channel is for!! Anyone agree with my frequency theory and can extract the hidden one?
Cause it could be a midi signal or time code
Actually prolly time code timecodes silent I think
I really can but okie

IMO he won't be out until conclusion of Summer Games at earliest,
he wont be live before Summer Games end, because heroes are usually on the PTR for at least 3 weeks
but we should get a reveal and PTR release this week
Has anyone figured out the symbols on the Tweet yet? I've tried, but haven't found anything.
Sure
Keplers Third Law
Which is
ΣF = ma
Its all astrophysics
This is escape velocity
On the tweet there were symbols such as an inequality, music notes, less than, etc
Thank you @limpid agate
- ⋜ Ï€ ⩲ 🎶 \ + â‰
Yeah. Those ones
⩲ is used just for chess
The Fourth one. Sorry my phone is a basic smartphone and can't see some symbols.
Thank you
It means white side advantage
I looked it up, but the closest thing I could find is Plus-Minus. Plus-Equals is used in C++
Yes but in C++ it's +=
no
Think its just a bunch of sciency symbols
The current list of potentials for Sigma are:
- Astrophysicist
- Chess Player
- Fashion Designer
- Greek
- Musician
These are also not exclusive
Finally. A professional Greek
Greek is only 1 possibility
He might not be greek
Of that list, I think he's just an astrophysicist
From what I got out of the replies on Twitter, that seems to be the favorite
u/ztokdo on reddit
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A grenade that when it lands, hold position and curves bullets, projectiles and abilities around it. An example would be like that from titanfall.
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A secondary ability beam will be a wave anti-gravity beam that will lift a player in the air. (maybe lift or surge from advent rising)
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A protective ultimate which pulls in all projectiles shots and abilities and uses that to buff team.
he analyzed the math stuff


