#lore-discussion | Overwatch | Page 428

iron plume Apr 29, 2019, 9:17 PM

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yeah, but that’s in universe and from Mercy’s words

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so maybe that’s a bit of seeing what she wanted to see

peak escarp Apr 29, 2019, 9:18 PM

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she wasn't part of the inner circle

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so she might not have known that Reyes was cool with not being in charge

ocean inlet Apr 29, 2019, 9:18 PM

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true

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ill try and find the article

peak escarp Apr 29, 2019, 9:19 PM

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also she wasn't part of Overwatch when Morrison was given the leadership

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I know which one it is

iron plume Apr 29, 2019, 9:19 PM

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!!loretext

twilit nacelleBOT Apr 29, 2019, 9:19 PM

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Short Stories:
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM

News Reports:
Fading Glory; Jack Morrison: http://bit.ly/2f9TPq4
Experimental Weapon Stolen: http://bit.ly/2fMrKsj
Lucio's Synaesthesia World Tour: http://bit.ly/2flja2U
LumériCo: http://bit.ly/1XAJfd1
Overwatch is Back: http://bit.ly/1TAWebT
LumériCo Revealed: http://bit.ly/2e6P5oj
Portero Steps Down: http://bit.ly/2fk8Bes
Efi Oladele Interview: http://bit.ly/2miMZkT
Horizon Lunar Colony: http://bit.ly/2reMSKx
Attack on Helix: http://bit.ly/2tn45mk
Oslo Attack: https://bit.ly/2uHKXUr

Documents:
Mei's Adventure: http://bit.ly/2fMxRg4
Torb's Letter: http://bit.ly/2HK4CWa
Venice Declassified: https://bit.ly/2Hs807B
Cuerva: https://bit.ly/2BHEqd9

Travel Guides:
Oasis: http://bit.ly/2iPTM4K
Paris: https://bit.ly/2GEyOoq

iron plume Apr 29, 2019, 9:19 PM

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fading glory

peak escarp Apr 29, 2019, 9:19 PM

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According to Overwatch's former agents, this outcome was inevitable. "After Morrison's promotion to strike commander, his relationship with Reyes changed," Dr. Angela Ziegler, medical director of Overwatch, stated during a UN committee hearing. "The tension became more pronounced as time went on. I tried to mend things. We all did. Sometimes when the closest bonds break, all you can do is pray you stay out of the cross fire."

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I think this is a case of outdated information - she would not have known them before Morrison's promotion

ocean inlet Apr 29, 2019, 9:20 PM

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ah

peak escarp Apr 29, 2019, 9:20 PM

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but at one point, she was conceptualized as an early member of Overwatch and would have known them

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it was changed in the early stages of the story

ocean inlet Apr 29, 2019, 9:24 PM

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bit of a topic change but this kinda bugged me, mei's team died because overwatch was shut down so they werent awakened right?

peak escarp Apr 29, 2019, 9:26 PM

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pretty much

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they went into cryostasis because they were low on supplies and a big storm was keeping anyone from coming to resupply

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but the storm lasted longer than expected and by the time it broke, Overwatch was gone

ocean inlet Apr 29, 2019, 9:27 PM

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ohh that answers the question i was going to ask

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thank you

iron plume Apr 29, 2019, 9:30 PM

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I think it was supposed to open automatically too, but the storm knocked something out

peak escarp Apr 29, 2019, 9:31 PM

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some people think it was Mei's fault (indirectly)

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because she left the sensors on, which drained the batteries

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if the sensors weren't on, they might have lasted longer

ocean inlet Apr 29, 2019, 9:34 PM

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i just thought it was weird how no one else outside of overwatch was notified of the team if they were going to be shut down

peak escarp Apr 29, 2019, 9:35 PM

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the signal probably didn't get through the storm

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and with everything else happening, nobody had time to check in on a research station that had gone dark

ocean inlet Apr 29, 2019, 9:36 PM

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true

frosty shell Apr 29, 2019, 9:41 PM

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I think that it isn't outdated information necessarily

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It's just that Mercy assumed that

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maybe Mei's mission was semi-classified and that's why no one rescued her?

ocean inlet Apr 29, 2019, 9:43 PM

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yeah, but of overwatch was gonna be shut down anyway, would it matter if it was classified?

frosty shell Apr 29, 2019, 9:46 PM

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Overwatch was shut down 3-4 years after Mei was first frozen

iron plume Apr 29, 2019, 9:46 PM

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plenty of projects that shut down long ago are still classified

frosty shell Apr 29, 2019, 9:47 PM

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That's not what I was saying

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I'm not quite sure what "would it matter if it was classified" would mean

ocean inlet Apr 29, 2019, 9:47 PM

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i just dont see why it would need to be if the organization wasnt going to continue

frosty shell Apr 29, 2019, 9:47 PM

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So I wonder if no one thought to check on the Ecopoint because they didn't know there were people there at the time of the storm or something like that

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IDK it's unlikely

iron plume Apr 29, 2019, 9:48 PM

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the organization disbands but the people who were in charge of it would still not like spreading the details

frosty shell Apr 29, 2019, 9:48 PM

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yeah so that's why no one came to Ecopoint: Antarctica in the last 5 years

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Because Overwatch shut down 3-4 years after Mei was frozen, that also meant no one tried to rescue the scientists during that time

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Maybe the cryostasis part of the Ecopoint: Antarctica mission was what was classified?

fringe blade Apr 29, 2019, 10:11 PM

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I mean, the cryo had to be there from the very beginning, unless the scientists somehow created the cryo pods on their own, which is extremely unlikely

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Honestly, this is a really dumb question, but why did Overwatch shut down in the first place? Were the people/UN unhappy with them?

peak escarp Apr 29, 2019, 10:12 PM

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in an early draft of the lore, Mei did make the cryo chambers

iron plume Apr 29, 2019, 10:13 PM

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they were

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it started with Rialto

frosty shell Apr 29, 2019, 10:13 PM

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ow shut down for many reasons

iron plume Apr 29, 2019, 10:13 PM

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maybe it should stay that way

half pasture Apr 29, 2019, 11:12 PM

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so who was even in charge of overwatch when it was officially shut down

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since Jack and Reyes are presumed dead

worthy rose Apr 29, 2019, 11:15 PM

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Probably Director Petras or a remaining founder.

frosty shell Apr 30, 2019, 12:03 AM

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I assume Morrison was only in charge of strike operations

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Those may have been suspended in the wake of his supposed death

teal grove Apr 30, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Who's Morrison?

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 12:33 AM

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soldier 76 real name

limpid agate Apr 30, 2019, 12:40 AM

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Jack Morrison

midnight light Apr 30, 2019, 1:56 AM

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I assumed Genji’s default costume was when he went to live with Zenyatta, but he had it during this latest event? I don’t know the order of operations on this one. OW was disbanded not long after capturing Doom?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Doomfist was captured 6 years ago

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5 years ago, Overwatch disbanded

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so yeah, pretty soon after

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Genji had his current appearance as of 6 years ago

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:01 AM

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but then, doom broke out of prison and had Widow and Sombra help him eliminate a rival Talon member

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Doom just threw him off a building

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 2:02 AM

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yes

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that's present day

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:02 AM

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i liked that comic

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 2:03 AM

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it is one of the better ones

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:03 AM

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stealth/undercover missions are really nice for me personally, and doom throwing a guy off a building was a great end

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i mean, not that i celebrate death

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but it was cool

midnight light Apr 30, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Next year I want a mission as Talon doing evil things 😬

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Evil Omnic guy may be a tank who knows

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:06 AM

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I doubt we'll get it since it is "Overwatch archives"

midnight light Apr 30, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Fuuuuuuck thaaaat

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Change the name

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:07 AM

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i want a stealth mission blown by Talon, so we have to fight out of it

half pasture Apr 30, 2019, 2:07 AM

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Gimmie a non talon non overwatch mission

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:08 AM

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hm

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:08 AM

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I just wanna know what really happened at the Swiss HQ. Or the first and failed attempt at the East China Sea omnium, or the first time the strike team shut down the Anubis AI

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other than that

half pasture Apr 30, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Like the most random collection of heroes

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:08 AM

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i really don't care about what happened in the past

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:08 AM

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well, i would love for Mercy not to be included again

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she's been in it 2/3 times

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 2:09 AM

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random collections of heroes will have to be non-Archives missions

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:09 AM

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I mean if Liao turns out to be a healer or sojourn is a healer, that's likely cause I'm sure blizzard has heard the complaints

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 2:09 AM

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like they have for Halloween

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:09 AM

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i really want them to find a good reason to put Lucio or Sombra in one of the missions

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:10 AM

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they won't

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:10 AM

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i know

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:10 AM

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cause lucio isn't apart of overwatch

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:10 AM

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which makes me sad

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:10 AM

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and sombra is busy with her plans at fighting the illuminati and probably world shadowy domination

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:11 AM

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well, she usually does talon missions, but to her own benefit, so...

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maybe?

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i just really like those 2

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:12 AM

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idk what to tell you cause there's not a real way to introduce Lucio to overwatch unless like he's doing a concert and Talon and New Overwatch just happen to be there and he joins them to help or talks about how they're heroes and that he'll fund them since they are severely lacking funding

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:12 AM

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that would be excellent

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ah

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but at the same time

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 2:13 AM

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Lucio couldn't be in Archives missions, because he only became famous and got his weapons recently

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:13 AM

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it's probs not gonna happen

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i can only hope

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but my hope will probs be wasted

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they could come up with a good reason for Sombra tho

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:14 AM

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I'm pretty sure DVA won't join Overwatch until the gwishin is beaten

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which is a fun like quest of sorts for new overwatch

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help out around the world

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recruit some help

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Talon is a very interesting organization

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 2:15 AM

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unless we get new heroes who were in Overwatch 5-8 years ago, we're going to keep getting repeats

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:15 AM

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I expect sojourn or liao being released within the next 2 years

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and one of them is probably a healer

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cause we are severely lacking in original healers cause I don't want to be playing mercy in another archives mission

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:16 AM

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exactly how i feel, not because i play mercy, but some other healer would be nice

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ana

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could fit in with an old OW mission

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:17 AM

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Yea but she wasn't a healer back then

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she was a sniper like widow

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Ana wasn't a healer until after Overwatch fell

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:18 AM

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oh yeah

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Hence why we need Liao and or Sojourn to be a healer

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otherwise we'll never get an original strike team mission

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:18 AM

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then she hesitated

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and lost her eye to widow

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:19 AM

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I'm expecting Liao to be a tech/healer person

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Maybe giving artificial shields or something like Sym's old ult did

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 2:20 AM

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you mean Symm

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:20 AM

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yes

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 2:20 AM

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yeah

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:20 AM

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then what would Sojourn be?

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:20 AM

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probably dps

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She doesn't strike me as a tank

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:21 AM

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she gives out info

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:21 AM

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and healer is possible

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but I feel it's more on the nose of dps

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:21 AM

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i feel that we need a new shield tank

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personally

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but, i'm not sure i see someone that would fit that right now

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:22 AM

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Shield tanks are hard to design

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:22 AM

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they are

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:23 AM

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It's hard to design one creatively that has different abilities than the three we already have

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:23 AM

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hmm

inland citrus Apr 30, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Yep

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:24 AM

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And also blizzard is super worried about adding any character that could likely be used in goat's comp at the pro scene

inland citrus Apr 30, 2019, 2:24 AM

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Yeah

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:24 AM

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Baptiste for the most part is extremely a stationary/bunker hero so he doesn't really fit

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Unless you ask LA Valiant

inland citrus Apr 30, 2019, 2:24 AM

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That'll change once they introduce role-queue though

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:24 AM

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then they're like "We can totally run him in goats"

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:24 AM

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we have handheld shield, throw out shield, and bubble shield, not sure where to go from there.

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:24 AM

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please no

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Role que is a terrible idea

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like genuinely terrible

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:25 AM

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it kind of exists

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with the "find group" thing

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:25 AM

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I mean the only other I can think of is like using the map geometry

inland citrus Apr 30, 2019, 2:25 AM

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I don't think it is

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:25 AM

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like sym's ult but attaches to a wall

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:25 AM

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but that is pathetic

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:25 AM

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and smaller obviously

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:25 AM

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anyway

inland citrus Apr 30, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Could you explain what you dislike about role-queue

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Im interested

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:26 AM

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Gimme a second cause I've articulated my argument so many times

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I'll DM it to you

inland citrus Apr 30, 2019, 2:26 AM

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Right

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:26 AM

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Also yea I agree, pathetic design but hey u try being creative with a shield

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:26 AM

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true

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hmm

inland citrus Apr 30, 2019, 2:27 AM

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A shield attached to a wall?

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:27 AM

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nah, i don't think that would be good

inland citrus Apr 30, 2019, 2:27 AM

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No me neither

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:27 AM

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but what else is there?

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actually

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 2:28 AM

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reminder that this is lore discussion

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:28 AM

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yeah

inland citrus Apr 30, 2019, 2:28 AM

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Right

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Let's move to #overwatch

muted fog Apr 30, 2019, 2:28 AM

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let's move to #overwatch

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haha

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great idea

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:06 AM

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Even lore wise tho, there isn't that many ways you can uniquely design a shield

limpid agate Apr 30, 2019, 6:07 AM

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Its mostly hard light by the looks of it

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:08 AM

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Yea

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It is durable and has the advantage of being translucent

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Shields made of metal and such wouldn't be very effective during the times of Overwatch

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I find it really interesting how our world is moving faster and faster towards a world where many technologies of OW universe are possible

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We have nuclear energy, advanced laser tech, materials that can 'self-heal' small punctures

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I also don't know about Sojourn being a hero

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They have revealed a ton about her already

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Such as her name, face, VA, position in OW, etc

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:22 AM

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we knew about the same about Brigitte before she joined the roster

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:23 AM

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I imagine her being kind of like Reyes

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A face and a voice

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I mean, like the Pre-Reaper Reyes

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:24 AM

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what do you mean?

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:24 AM

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Remember, during the Uprising mission

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And overall

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Pre-Reaper Reyes was a character, who had a face and a name/VA

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:25 AM

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Reyes was in comms during Uprising, then was playable the following year

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maybe Sojourn will be playable next year

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:26 AM

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I mean, I hope they make her like Reyes but without the playable part. 85
% of important characters we are introduced to become heroes

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:26 AM

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that's a bit of an exaggeration

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:27 AM

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You get my point

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:27 AM

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still, there are plenty of NPCs that probably won't get added to the game

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:27 AM

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I think we need fillers, background characters who play an important part and don't become heroes

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:27 AM

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Jeff has already confirmed she will be a playable hero

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:28 AM

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Like Efi and the singing Omnix

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:28 AM

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Luna

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:28 AM

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Did he?

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I remeber him saying they have 'big plans' for her

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Maybe he confirmed her being a hero, I might have missed that

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:28 AM

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during ohnickel's stream he described her as "a hero" and talked about her like other playable heroes

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so it's not verbatim confirmation, but heavily implied

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compare that to saying there are "long term plans" for Junker Queen

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Sojourn was originally designed as a playable hero when they were coming up with concepts back in 2014

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:31 AM

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I actually wouldn't mind if she was a playable hero, I just wish we had more significant out-of-game characters

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:32 AM

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we have Max, Katya Volskaya, Sanjay, Lynx

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:32 AM

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Lynx?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:32 AM

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Lynx-17

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the hacker from Zarya's comic

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:32 AM

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Ohh

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Mb

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I agree

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Yet the list is pretty damn short

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:33 AM

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that's just major NPCs

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there's plenty more minor NPCs

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:34 AM

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I actually am just curious, why would Sanjay be a major NPC? He is featured in a single comic and his story isn't really taken anywhere and he doesn't exactly push the lore forward

limpid agate Apr 30, 2019, 6:34 AM

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He's on the Talon council of leaders

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:35 AM

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So would Antonio be considered a major NPC?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:36 AM

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he has appeared a couple times, and is important to a hero's backstory

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a deceased one, but yes

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:36 AM

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Hmm

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Anyway

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I actually wonder, would Sojourn theoretically be 33-34 or further out than that?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:37 AM

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I think soon

limpid agate Apr 30, 2019, 6:37 AM

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Probably within 36

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Not 31

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:38 AM

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she's probably in that 6 that they had being worked on at Blizzcon

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:38 AM

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Wdym?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:38 AM

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at Blizzcon Jeff said they had 6 heroes in various stages of development

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:38 AM

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Ah

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We get 2/3 heroes a year, right?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:39 AM

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3

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March, July, November

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:40 AM

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If she was 34, say, that would mean she would be released in July 2020

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And that is a helluva long time away

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:41 AM

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it is a ways off

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:41 AM

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Echo is most likely 32/33

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She isn't 31

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:42 AM

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I'm guessing Echo will be this year's Blizzcon hero

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Ye

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I actually don't know if we will be getting a Talon tank

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It's an interesting idea

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I don't think it's the 'Null Sector Leader'

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He is way too fresh and too obvious of an option

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:47 AM

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we've gotten "fresh" heroes before

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:47 AM

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This guy was literally shoved in our face

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:48 AM

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like Doomfist?

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like Sombra?

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:48 AM

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Doomfist was much more gradual

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We have known about him since the trailer

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:48 AM

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most of the heroes have been revealed before they joined the roster

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the only one that came completely out of nowhere was Ashe

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:49 AM

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Orisa

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:49 AM

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and arguably Orisa

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but the concept of her has been around for a while

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:50 AM

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I just feel like it would be way too obvious if they released him as a hero

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:50 AM

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people said the same about Baptiste

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:50 AM

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They never showed him off before the release

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Not in such a blatant way anyway

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:51 AM

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but after his first teaser came out, people were like "it's not going to be Baptiste, that's too obvious. The letter is a red herring"

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:52 AM

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Ehh

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I guess

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I would honestly just be disappointed if it was the Null Sector guy

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:53 AM

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why?

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people have been wanting an evil omnic for forever

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:53 AM

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Even with Baptiste, you didn't know who he really was, who he interacted with, what he looked or sounded like

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:53 AM

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I've been really wanting more omnics, from both sides

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:53 AM

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Yes

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But I would be disappointed because there would be no intrigue, no curiosity, no will to count down the days until the next teaser

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:54 AM

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for every hero except Ashe, Orisa and Baptiste, they have been a character we have seen before and people had questions about

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same thing for this omnic

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I don't see how that can be disappointing

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Brigitte was a bit disappointing because we saw so much of her before

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:55 AM

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I actually might be wrong about this, but we didn't really see any character that much except for Brig

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:56 AM

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we saw Ana in Soldier's origin story

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we saw Sombra through the ARG

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we saw Doomfist in the trailer and in Orisa's release

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we saw Moira in Masquerade

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we saw/knew about Hammond with the Horizon release

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:57 AM

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Hmm. What about the actual player model/voice?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:58 AM

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Brigitte was the only one with a voice/character model

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:58 AM

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I guess this might be a Brig kind of situation

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:59 AM

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I'd be disappointed if we don't get him as a hero

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 6:59 AM

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I just feel like up to her release, the story was never focused around her. The entirety of Storm is based around Max/Him

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:00 AM

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Storm Rising was about Max

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not the omnic - he was a cliffhanger at the end that nobody new about until then

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 7:00 AM

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Yea, true

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But I think this new persona stole the show from Max

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:01 AM

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that's like saying the cinematic trailer was about Doomfist

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 7:02 AM

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That is what I am trying to say. Like, in the cinematic trailer, the Gauntlet was just a cool detail

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But this new guy left a bigger impression on many people than Max did

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:03 AM

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and people begged for Doomfist to get put in the game

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they weren't even going to add him this early

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but he was so popular, they made him

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 7:04 AM

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Like with the Rein short, almost no one cared about Brig since the story was so heavily focused on Rein

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During Storm, they put a much bigger emphasis on this guy

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Leaving him a cliffhanger and all

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Brig was just... there

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:06 AM

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there's no emphasis on Predator during Storm Rising

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he's just the epilogue

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Storm Rising is all Maximilien this, Max that

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the omnic doesn't even get a name

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 7:08 AM

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I would actually respectfully disagree. He is a dramatic effect, a dramatic and memorable ending

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:08 AM

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most people skip the cinematics

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if they skip the last cinematic, they don't even see him

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 7:09 AM

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I mean, many people skip the shorts and comics as well

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:09 AM

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exactly

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the omnic appearing at the end of Storm Rising doesn't spoil anything

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the mystery will still be there if/when he gets added to the game

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 7:11 AM

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I mean, if you don't ever watch the shorts/comics, all heroes will be a mystery

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That doesn't change the fact that they blatantly revealed him at the end of Storm

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:12 AM

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they blatantly revealed Ana in Soldier's origin story

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 7:13 AM

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Let me rephrase. They blatantly revealed his character model, voice, tone of voice, manners and type of speech at the end of Storm.

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:13 AM

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and?

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why is that a problem?

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we still don't know anything about him

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we just know what he looks and sounds like

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 7:14 AM

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Because that takes away a lot of the intrigue, for me anyway

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:14 AM

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you're probably the only one

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 7:15 AM

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If you say so.

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It's not a bad thing to disagree on things anyway

frosty shell Apr 30, 2019, 2:17 PM

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yeah we knew what Brigitte looked and sounded like

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 2:29 PM

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i dont even think they would add max as a hero

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what abilities would he have anyways to sell information? lol

half pasture Apr 30, 2019, 2:49 PM

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You bribe enemy team members into fighting for you

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clearly

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 3:45 PM

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hiii

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i'm baaaack

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heeelllo?

gentle token Apr 30, 2019, 3:47 PM

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hello

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 3:47 PM

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ey

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 3:47 PM

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this isn't the place for socializing

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 3:47 PM

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sorryt

gentle token Apr 30, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Also I doubt Max will ever be a hero to play, he doesn't seem like a fighter

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More of a "I'll pay someone to do it for me" kinda guy

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 3:48 PM

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ye

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maybe they'll do the thing where they tease one hero but release another?

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like tease mr. omnic dude and release something stupid

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like with wrecking ball?

gentle token Apr 30, 2019, 3:50 PM

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What did they tease with wrecking ball?

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 3:50 PM

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i heard they teased on hero, but then released him

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 3:50 PM

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the teasers for Wrecking Ball were very vague

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 3:50 PM

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ye4

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 3:50 PM

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they didn't tease anyone specifically

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 3:50 PM

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oh

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 3:51 PM

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a better example would be Orisa's release

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 3:51 PM

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yeah

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 3:51 PM

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everyone thought it was for Doomfist

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 3:51 PM

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then a robo cow

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 3:51 PM

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rude

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she is not a cow

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 3:51 PM

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sorry

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i apologise to orissa

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*orisa

gentle token Apr 30, 2019, 3:55 PM

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She's a beetle

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 3:55 PM

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whop do you think started talon?

gentle token Apr 30, 2019, 3:55 PM

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Well Talon has many leaders: Reaper, Doom, etc, but I don't think we know who the exact founders are

pliant sparrow Apr 30, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Antonio was one of the original founding members I think

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But he’s the only one we have any sort of information on

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Sanjay might have been there for longer than most but we’ve never been given anything about how or when he joined

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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oh\

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i didnt know we actually had info on antonio

gentle token Apr 30, 2019, 4:06 PM

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We've seen him amongst the other leaders, so we know he serves some importance, but not sure what yet

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Some info, but not much

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 4:07 PM

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ah

pliant sparrow Apr 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Antonio was sort of there and gone

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 4:10 PM

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i was just wondering, what are those red markings and lines on dommfists head?

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 4:48 PM

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hello

vital basin Apr 30, 2019, 4:49 PM

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helloo

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 4:53 PM

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anyone want to answer my wuestion?

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also hi

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 4:53 PM

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they're cybernetic augmentations

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and again, this isn't the place for socializing

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 4:58 PM

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ah k

hard garden Apr 30, 2019, 4:58 PM

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hello

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 4:58 PM

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thats also why i asked for an answer first

hard garden Apr 30, 2019, 4:59 PM

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i'm recherch a person french

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or a french person

limpid agate Apr 30, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Please use this channel for lore discussion only

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 5:01 PM

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ok

hard garden Apr 30, 2019, 5:02 PM

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ok but i'm not understand that it's not french

limpid agate Apr 30, 2019, 5:02 PM

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This is an English only Discord.

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 5:02 PM

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hey!

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there must be some way to translate it

last inlet Apr 30, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Nope

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Besides, rule 8

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 5:07 PM

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ok

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RIGHT lore

pliant sparrow Apr 30, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Are omnics generally seen as alive and sentient in the Overwatch universe?

last inlet Apr 30, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Seems that way

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The ones who display sentience and sapience tend to be treated as though they were human, except by those who have prejudices against them

pliant sparrow Apr 30, 2019, 5:19 PM

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Like the robo-Gandhi?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Mondatta

last inlet Apr 30, 2019, 5:25 PM

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He actually did die, so

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:12 PM

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hello?

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loreeee?

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:13 PM

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what, like all of it?

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:15 PM

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yes

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anything

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:16 PM

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!!lorecomics

twilit nacelleBOT Apr 30, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Unanimated Original Comics
Train Hopper: http://bit.ly/2f9VJqq
Dragon Slayer: http://bit.ly/1WFmOmd
Going Legit: http://bit.ly/2f9TpQx
A Better World: http://bit.ly/1TdDVwq
Mission Statement: http://bit.ly/2fkOsEH
Destroyer: http://bit.ly/1TTDBNB
Legacy: http://bit.ly/2a9FFma
Old Soldiers: http://bit.ly/2a9FTtA
Junkenstein: http://bit.ly/2dTvchq
Reflections: http://bit.ly/2hnNvMf
Binary: http://bit.ly/2lEPnGv
Uprising: http://bit.ly/2nbWirI
Masquerade: http://bit.ly/2u90Pey
Wasted Land: http://bit.ly/2wIe87b
Searching: http://bit.ly/2y8mHeQ
Retribution: https://bit.ly/2JiNaZq

Mini Comics
The Return of Junkenstein: http://bit.ly/2jvP2Go
Yeti Hunt: http://bit.ly/2kB2jdY

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:16 PM

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have fun

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:17 PM

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agh

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:21 PM

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So OW people

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What do we know about zen besides he taught Genji and he's a monk who liked mondatta?

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:22 PM

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he is really sad about all the innocent omnics who died

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Like besides that

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Cause I feel like we know more about Maximillien then we do zen

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But I haven't read the comics or anything

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:23 PM

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he left the order because he disagreed with their ways in some form

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and now lives in the village under the mountain

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Does Genji know that or no?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Genji probably knows about Zenyatta's past

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:25 PM

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So what did he disagree with the other monks on?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:26 PM

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the method of spreading their message of equality

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:27 PM

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not the message?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Mondatta preached through speeches and by secluding the Shambali up in the mountains

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:27 PM

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just the method?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Zenyatta thought they could reach people better by going out into the world and being hands-on

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Ahhh

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:27 PM

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hm

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:28 PM

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But one monk, Zenyatta, disagreed with this new direction. He believed that the way to repair the problems between humans and omnics was not through dogmatic teaching but through interpersonal connection and engagement.

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:28 PM

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So is it canon that he can actually fight? Like, does he actually fight people

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:28 PM

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probably not

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he's essentially a Buddhist monk

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:28 PM

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what do you think in his description when it says "it is told anyone he crosses is never the same again" or something along those lines

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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he changes people's lives

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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He probably talks to em and makes them see that peace is good and stuff

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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like he did for Genji

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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I think he can fight, but only does so when absolutely needed to protect others

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Like, we need a zen cinematic

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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aah

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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it might be one of the schisms too

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Zenyatta has the least lore out of any hero

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Ehhhhhhh

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:30 PM

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he just has his bio and a one-panel cameo in Reflections

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Hamster tho

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Hammond has an origin story video

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and references on the Horizon map

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:30 PM

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That's true

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:30 PM

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he wwas on winstons ship escape pod

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he had like a grappling hook and grappled to it or something

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:30 PM

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yes

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Yeah, cause he's the best hamster

half pasture Apr 30, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Zen and Lucio have the least lore, and lucio has slightly more

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:31 PM

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yes

half pasture Apr 30, 2019, 6:31 PM

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It's funny that two of the original cast have the least lore

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:31 PM

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and Lucio's "slightly more" is from some recently added interactions where we found out his father made the tech that went into his sonic weapons

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Like lucio makes some sense cause he doesn't really fight or have anything to do with the omnics

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:32 PM

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he still hasn't appeared in a comic or short

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Zen is literally like on the ground trying to help people

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We should know more about that

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Like if it was Lucio and symmetra who had low amounts of lore it'd make a lot of sense

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:32 PM

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I'd like to know more about Zenyatta's early life

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:33 PM

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I'd like to know anything about Zenyatta lol

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:33 PM

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what he was like before finding the Shambali, what his purpose was as an omnic, what his original designation was

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"Zenyatta" obviously isn't the name he was given fresh out of the omnium

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:33 PM

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in all seriousness there was a fanmade comic a while ago with a talk between genji and zenyatta that was surprisingly in depth and I wish Blizzard took more of that approach

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:33 PM

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"is literally like on the ground trying to help people"
and Lucio isn't?

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Nah but Lucio is more for one place, against one bad corporation

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:34 PM

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do you think bastion will meet new overwatch, we know he's me torb and is his buddy. wasnt torb trying to hide him?

half pasture Apr 30, 2019, 6:34 PM

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I mean isn't Lucio also touring the world as a musician

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Torb and bastion?

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:34 PM

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ye

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in that comic

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Yeah but Lucio is literally a DJ who hates a corporation that's screwing over his people

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Like

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That doesn't affect Overwatch (the organization) or the omnic crisis at all

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:35 PM

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he's also a freedom fighter and known around the world while zen just sits in his village

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see how easy it is to reduce someone's role

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Zen doesn't affect modern overwatch or the crisis either

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Yeah but Zen's message is more applicable. Like, people in South Korea wouldn't relate to Lucio's message (even if they love his music) but they might to Zen's

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:36 PM

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...why wouldn't they?

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"fuck evil corporations" isn't exactly regional

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considering even just Vishkar itself is all around the globe

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and works with Talon

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:37 PM

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No but when there was a third world war against omnics, most people would probably be more concerned about that than the one evil corporation. Like Vishkar sucks, but omnics as a whole will affect more people (like we saw in the D.va cinematic)

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:38 PM

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how about Talon

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which are the people actually trying to start the next global war

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Yeah but how many people actually know that?

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Like, it's much easier to hate on omnics

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Talon is a publicly known terrorist organization

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:40 PM

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No but how many people know how much they do

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Like you can know that Talon is bad without knowing how bad

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Even that aside, Lucio's message is ultimately that of freedom

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you really think people wouldn't relate to that

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:41 PM

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does it matter how bad Talon are?

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terrorists are terrorists

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:41 PM

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terrorists are bad

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:41 PM

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hot take central

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:43 PM

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No but there's a lot of different terrorist organizations in the world, and if Talon is making sure people can't connect them to a lot of things, they might not be as infamous as something like a Bastion unit

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:43 PM

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OOF i just thought of a dumb what if...

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do you mean that they might be manipulating people to believe they aren't as bad as they look?

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Zen's message of peace is relevant when there are tensions heating up in places like Paris
But clearly so is Lucio's one of freedom because he's likely far from the only one being oppressed by either Vishkar, other corporation, or Talon directly

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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I think the big difference is that Lucio actually did something that got the world's attention- he led a successful revolution in a major city

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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like the raided Caribbean

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and that

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the monks order is famous, but not Zenyatta himself

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:45 PM

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what has Zenyatta done? changed the life of one cyborg struggling with body dysphoria

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Lucio is an internationally known celebrity

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:46 PM

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he might go on to do better things

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Oh shit, that was brutal to Genji

frosty shell Apr 30, 2019, 6:46 PM

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i think most people know that Talon ordered Mondatta's assassination

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Zenyatta is just a monk

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:46 PM

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maybe zen doesn't wan to be a celebrity

frosty shell Apr 30, 2019, 6:46 PM

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from Tracer

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:46 PM

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And yeah @worthy rose Like, I'm assuming they're smart

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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ah clever

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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of course he doesnt want to be a celebrity

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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And killing one monk, no matter how famous, isn't enough to make everyone fear an organization

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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...what

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killing a major religious leader

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at a public event

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Like if most people only knew he did that

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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in the middle of london

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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it was an assassination on par with MLK

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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You wouldn't be scared of Talon

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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isn't enough to fear an organization

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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so they would want to be feared before plunging the world into conflict

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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How many people know the name of the guy who killed MLK

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:48 PM

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that isn't the point

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:48 PM

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we're not less than a year removed from the murder of MLK

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and I'd argue Mondatta would be even larger

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Yeah but you wouldn't be as terrified of them as omnics that started a world war

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:49 PM

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that is not the comparison in point

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:49 PM

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do you think talon has lucio in their siights?

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he is an inspirational celeb

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Lucio's message isn't "fuck talon" and Zenyatta's isn't "well what about the omnics"

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Zenyatta is an advocate of peace and Lucio is an ambassador of freedom

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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good poinyt

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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being afraid of the omnics is like being afraid of Germans, or Japanese

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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and while Zenyatta changes the lives of those who come to him, they have to, you know

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come to him

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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they didn't all cause the war

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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wait...what is talons plan if they win?

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chill out?

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or rule?

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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the knowledge of him spreads by word of mouth

frosty shell Apr 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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idk

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Doomfist thinks it'll make humans stronger or somethin

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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whereas Lucio is an international celebrity

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they're going to watch the sun set on a grateful universe

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:51 PM

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yeah

frosty shell Apr 30, 2019, 6:51 PM

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irl terrorist organizations like to claim responsibility for their attacks in order to show power

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 6:51 PM

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and then ||no no you don't||

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:51 PM

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so what will happen when/if they win

frosty shell Apr 30, 2019, 6:51 PM

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but Talon is not a normal terrorist organization

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 6:52 PM

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No but does Talon do that? Like, is Talon like Al Qaeda or are they something different

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Cause their goal isn't just chaos to fuck with people, their goal is to start a war

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So they have to be more organized and smart

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:53 PM

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what will they do if they win?

half pasture Apr 30, 2019, 6:53 PM

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I mean Talon are more like COBRA from GI Joe than a real life terrorist org

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:55 PM

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they're exaggerated

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:57 PM

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can someone answer my question pls

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 6:57 PM

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what question?

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 6:58 PM

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what do you think talon will do if they win?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:01 PM

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what do any villains do if they win?

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Like, their goal is literally make humanity stronger

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So just live their lives I guess, hopefully not get caught

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:01 PM

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chill?

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Watch the sun set on a grateful universe and i will keep making that joke until you stop asking that question

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Such a sad joke

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:02 PM

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hah

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:03 PM

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but they're the bad guys and this is a superhero story, so they won't win

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:03 PM

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ah

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good point

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 7:03 PM

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well except for that time

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:03 PM

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I mean, what if they do tho? What if Jeff (Goodman, not Kaplan) decides that the story ends with another war, some people dead on each side, and that's the end of the lore

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:04 PM

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why would Geoff Goodman decide what the story is?

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he's a game dev, not the head writer

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 7:06 PM

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also: not a jeff

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Oh wait, wrong names

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Got an mixed up

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:08 PM

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you're thinking of Michael Chu

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and that would be a terrible ending for something billed as an "optimistic future"

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Classic bait and switch

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It's not gonna be happen but oh boi that would be funny

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Don't even do any more lore after that too, literally just end the story with a war

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:10 PM

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do you think some important talon chav will die? (reaper, doomfist, moira, sombra, widowmaker, sanjay, maximillien)

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:11 PM

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some already have

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Antonio, Vialli

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Reaper

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Reaper will def die

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:11 PM

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why do you say that?

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Like, how do you proceed with that story

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He redeems himself?

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He will always be an issue

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:11 PM

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he could get a redemption arc

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 7:11 PM

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talon chav
tracer is talon?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:12 PM

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as much as I hate the theory, he could be a double agent

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:12 PM

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But why would he? Like, he wants revenge and nothing but, so he either becomes basically a different character or dies

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Oh that could be interesting

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Kinda like snape from Harry potter

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:13 PM

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reaper could be redeemed as doc six said

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:13 PM

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once we know why he turned, we'll know if he is redeemable

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:13 PM

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And who said Tracer was talon?

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:13 PM

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like if there's an epic final battle and talon troops are surrounding soldier 76 and reaper's just like nope and helps him or some shite

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also i never said she was talon

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i just said chavs

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:14 PM

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No someone said she was and I'm confused why

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Party said it

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:14 PM

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I think he was making a joke

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about the use of chav

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:14 PM

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ye

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Oh ok

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Like, I could see Doomfist getting redeemed tbh, because he didn't betray everyone, so he has a shot. Reap I feel like is dead whenever anyone gets a shot (unless he's a double agent)

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But I think both will prob be dead in the end more than likely

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:16 PM

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i dont think reaper is a double agent

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i think doomfist will definetly die tho

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:16 PM

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I don't either, but honestly, do you think Michael Chu knows?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:17 PM

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he should

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he writes it

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:17 PM

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I don't either, but honestly, do you think Michael Chu knows?

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Like, no one knows anything right now

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:17 PM

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also I don't think Reaper can be killed

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Winston frying him didn't do it

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:18 PM

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soldier76: someone will have to kill you eventually (or something0

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reaper: i invite them to try

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:18 PM

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that's just banter

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:18 PM

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but still

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:19 PM

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he can reform his body from being basically disintegrated

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Like, he has to be able to die somehow

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Winston and mercy could find someway

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

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probably

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but why?

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:21 PM

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them of all people would believe in redemption

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Like, if Reaper got nuked he's set dead, while getting stabbed he's good

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So you gotta find a middle in between those

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Mercy would probably want to try to cure him

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:22 PM

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Not if she thought he would just hurt more people

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That's her big thing is helping people

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:22 PM

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he would be able to hurt less people if he was cured

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she would be against executing him

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she likes helping people, so she would try to help him

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:24 PM

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No but even if he's not invincible he's got a decent aim with shotguns and was a soldier

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Like he can definitely kill people even if he's not damn near invincible

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:25 PM

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thats the point

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SHE WANTS TO HELP PEOPLE

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:26 PM

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she still wouldn't approve of killing him

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Yeah but if she heals him and he goes and kills 10 people

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Not worth it

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:27 PM

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it's not like she would heal him and then let him go

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he'd be imprisoned

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:27 PM

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But then there's that ethical question

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:27 PM

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like Doomfist was

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they didn't execute Doomfist

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:28 PM

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what if there's some suicide squad type shit

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Lol, get reaper out to go fight talon?

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And mercy probably wasn't involved in that decision with doomfist

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She would have to fix reaper

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Just so he could die in jail

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:29 PM

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why would she be involved with the decision now?

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she is a pacifist

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there is 100% no way she would be in favor of the death penalty

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Cause she would have go fix him

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:31 PM

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spending the rest of his life in prison is a good enough punishment

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:36 PM

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hmmhhmhm

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oof, i just thought of something DuMb

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:40 PM

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yes?

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:42 PM

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noo

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itz to dum

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do you think anyone will visit reyes (not the dumb thing)

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:44 PM

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if he was in prison? people would come to interrogate him

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:48 PM

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if you can consider that a visit

tepid abyss Apr 30, 2019, 7:54 PM

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Everyone who knew him is dead or pretending to be right?

worthy rose Apr 30, 2019, 7:54 PM

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oh yeee

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 7:54 PM

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Not rein

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 7:58 PM

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all of Overwatch knew him

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so Genji, McCree, Rein, Torb, they'd know him

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Pharah knew him growing up

half pasture Apr 30, 2019, 8:01 PM

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it's just the people from overwatch who know Reaper = Reyes are also pretending to be dead

iron plume Apr 30, 2019, 8:01 PM

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if he got caught and cured, everyone would know

pliant sparrow Apr 30, 2019, 8:11 PM

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Moira might be the only one who knows how to reverse his current state

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Moira would know how but mercy and winston could figure it out

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Like, moira is evil and ethically suspicious, but not really that much smarter than mercu

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And winston would help her

tawny patio Apr 30, 2019, 8:24 PM

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I doubt Moira would have made a way to reverse his state tbh

celest ruin Apr 30, 2019, 8:24 PM

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She wouldn't have made one but she could look at the data and figure one out

limpid agate Apr 30, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Moving swiftly onwards.

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Moira might be the only one who knows how to reverse his current state

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Whether or not she can

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I don't think she cares to

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Just look at her own arm

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If she both could fix it AND wanted to fix it

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I'm sure she would have

regal coyote Apr 30, 2019, 8:57 PM

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from the POV of Moira Reaper does not need to be fixed

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There might be glitches in his condition, sure, which would require upgrades not fixes.

soft igloo Apr 30, 2019, 9:14 PM

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yo bois max is gonna snitch on talon and so some doods gonna reform and take down talon

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2020 archives

valid shell Apr 30, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Source?

soft igloo Apr 30, 2019, 9:19 PM

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none my guy

valid shell Apr 30, 2019, 9:19 PM

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Then please don't state it as fact.

soft igloo Apr 30, 2019, 9:19 PM

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lul

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 10:29 PM

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No shitposting please

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Anyway

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Did Baptiste really move the story forward yet?

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He showed some of Talon's and Overwatch's past, but I dont know if he moved the lore forward at all

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 10:30 PM

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it didn't move the plot forward

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it just told us what he's up to

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 10:32 PM

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So he set the story up for something

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Are there any major gaming events in the upcoming future that Blizzard is involved in?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 10:33 PM

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just OWL stuff

fringe blade Apr 30, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Blizzard doesn't take part in E3, right?

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So I guess the next major plot advancement is going to be a new comic/next hero?

peak escarp Apr 30, 2019, 10:44 PM

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yep

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late June should be the next hero teasers

shrewd mesa May 1, 2019, 2:29 AM

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what do you guys think about the theory that moira was already in talon during the blackwatch mission in italy?

midnight shoal May 1, 2019, 2:30 AM

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unlikely

shrewd mesa May 1, 2019, 2:30 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVgANlMHN5U&t=343s

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heres the vid im talking ab

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 2:33 AM

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she probably wasn't in Talon, but there is evidence that she was giving them access to her work

shrewd mesa May 1, 2019, 2:37 AM

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oh yeah i like that idea too

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 2:38 AM

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the snipers had the same smoke effect as Reaper, and the Heavy, Assassin and Enforcers have genetic enhancement

shrewd mesa May 1, 2019, 2:39 AM

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yeah thats what i just saw in the vid

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shes smart

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 2:41 AM

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she's just easily bought

celest ruin May 1, 2019, 2:45 AM

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I mean she doesn't believe in loyalty, she believes in science

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Like she's on the side that gives her the greatest leniency for experiments

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 2:48 AM

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yep

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you can "buy" her skills by being willing to look the other way

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 2:57 AM

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I am actually curious, did Talon make their special units based on spying on OW?

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All Talon Specials seem to behave a lot/the same as a few heroes in OW

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 3:01 AM

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possibly

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Sniper could be based on Ana

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Assassin based on Genji

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Enforcer based on Reyes

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Heavy based on Reinhardt

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 3:02 AM

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Also, before her abduction/kidnapping, was Widow an OW operative or not

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or was she just the wife of Gerald?

celest ruin May 1, 2019, 3:03 AM

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She has to have been an operative

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She almost outsniped ana fairly

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Like if she wasn't Gerard taught her some cool shit

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 3:04 AM

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It's possible she got her training in Talon

celest ruin May 1, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Like, IDK, that would be weird to teach someone who had never fought before to be a grade A sniper

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It's possible tho

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 3:07 AM

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They brainwashed her

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Providing almost a blank slate

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and they slowed her heart beat

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making it even easier

celest ruin May 1, 2019, 3:11 AM

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Like it would make sense, it just seems odd that she would be almost as good as ana with basically zero training, then rushing it, compared to ana's years of experience. I guess if your heat rate is slowed down that much though....

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 3:11 AM

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she was just a wife and a ballerina

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she was not an Overwatch agent

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she must have been a natural at it, or they had some way of accelerating her learning

gentle token May 1, 2019, 3:14 AM

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I imagine being a sniper requires being quite still in movement and not shaky. Qualities a ballerina would have.
Though that may be stretching it

celest ruin May 1, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Like that part of the story is super shaky, how did widow get that good when it took Ana literally years of being an active soldier to be that good

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What could Talon have that could accelerate training that fast

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And whatever it is, why don't they have an army of snipers that takes like a year to make

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Ana was only outsniped because she hesitated

celest ruin May 1, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Widow was still good enough though to make her have to think, and get in that situation where it was even possible to lose

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 3:17 AM

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right before that, she was able to ricochet a bullet around a corner to shatter Widow's helmet

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there are lots of things in OW that require the suspension of disbelief

somber pilot May 1, 2019, 3:20 AM

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bouncy bullets

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 3:20 AM

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like Bastion wandering around the Black Forest for ~15 years without anyone finding it

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or DVa being an ace mech pilot because she is super good at video games

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 3:52 AM

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Its very possible that Widow was meant to be a sniper

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But she never got a chance to try herself out as a sniper before Talon

worthy rose May 1, 2019, 3:52 AM

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Meant implies a destiny or a plan to

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Something makes me seriously Widow was a professional Ballerina and so something tells me she didn't train to be a sniper

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 3:54 AM

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She didn't train to be a sniper, but some people are better in some areas than others just generally

worthy rose May 1, 2019, 3:56 AM

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You said "Meant" which implies she was either destined to become one or someone laid plans for her to become one.
Do people have higher aptitudes in some areas over others? Totally
Does that mean they were always pre-destined to be a cold killing machine? I highly doubt it

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 3:56 AM

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Yea

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I mean that its possible it would be easier for her to become a sniper than some others

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Was Gerard the head of the Anti-Talon division in OW?

worthy rose May 1, 2019, 4:00 AM

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Something like that. I'm not sure if there was a specific division but he was mainly in charge of stopping them

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 4:00 AM

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After the murder of Antonio, we can see that Reyes is being interrogated by Amari, Morrison and him

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Since both Ana and 76 are the founders and key members, it makes sense

worthy rose May 1, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Yes? they're not talking to him because they were founding key members

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They're talking to him cause jack is the head of overwatch and Ana was his right hand

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if u wanted founding members only, then reinhardt would be there

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 4:01 AM

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So Gerard must have been a really key figure in order to be present

worthy rose May 1, 2019, 4:02 AM

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He was tasked with stopping Talon, and also Gabriel just killed Antonio, A talon leader, hence why he'd be there

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This is more Reaper and Gerard's jurisdictions crossing paths and likely both chastising him for his reckless actions while also trying to learn anything that they could from this incident such as any specific politicians with ties to Talon and Antonio

limpid agate May 1, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Jack and Ana are numbers 1 and 2

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Gerard is the head of anti-Talon operations

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 4:04 AM

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I've seen some people theorize that Gerard might not actually be dead, but instead was like Ana

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Presumed to be dead

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Don't know what to think about that though

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Sounds unlikely

worthy rose May 1, 2019, 4:05 AM

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I mean maybe?

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idk how'd you hide his death since widow was the one tasked to kill him

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and she visited his grave

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 4:05 AM

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I think that if they brainwashed Widow enough to even consider killing him in the first place, she would get the job done

worthy rose May 1, 2019, 4:05 AM

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and Ana herself pieced it together that widow was the one who killed him during their sniper battle

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So Imma say

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he dead

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until proven otherwise

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 4:06 AM

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He seems like a fun character honestly, but meh

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 4:07 AM

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Gerard being alive would undermine Widowmaker's whole backstory

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and like the "Harold/Antonio is alive" theory, it leaves a massive plot hole

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 4:09 AM

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Harold, as in the Lunar Colony scientist...?

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 4:09 AM

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yes

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Dr. Harold Winston

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who was killed along with the other scientists during the ape revolt

worthy rose May 1, 2019, 4:10 AM

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I think some ppl just can't handle death

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in stories

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in terms of death, overwatch is pretty lax

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 4:11 AM

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I'm rereading the Lunar Colony emails thing, and its really funny how many people guessed that Hammy was a hamter in a giant ball mech

worthy rose May 1, 2019, 4:11 AM

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it ain't game of thrones

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 4:11 AM

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some people just need things spelled out for them

worthy rose May 1, 2019, 4:11 AM

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alright imma head to bed cause I got an essay to do and exams to study for

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so goodnight

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 4:12 AM

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I thought Hammond would be a lemur or other small simian

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Yea

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I thought it was a dog/cat

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But people actually guessed exactly what Hammond was: a hamster in a ball mech

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 4:13 AM

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I was just going off the poster in Winston's room that says "Simian Research Division"

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which is also on Dr. Harold's ID badge, iirc

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so I'm mad at Harold for having a hamster in a simian program

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 4:14 AM

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I actually had a kind of dumb reason, but I was thinking that maybe if they were testing on monkeys, they would also test on cats/dogs, which have been alongside humans for thousands of years

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I wonder tho, why a hamster

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 4:15 AM

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because they have been used as test subjects in science for a long time

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alongside rabbits and mice

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 4:15 AM

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I thought that rats would be more practical

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They live longer

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 4:16 AM

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they're all used because they breed quickly, don't require a lot of resources to raise, and can be afflicted by many things that also affect humans

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 4:17 AM

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Yea

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I wonder why/if Hammond was their first big success in that area

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 4:20 AM

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first?

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 4:21 AM

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A highly intelligent rodent

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 4:21 AM

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idk

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maybe they were starting to branch out, try it on non-ape animals

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they probably did it for a laugh and were surprised when it worked

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 4:22 AM

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I find it interesting how they sort of disregarded the fact that Hammond was missing in the email. Something along the lines of 'Darn, Hammond's been missing for a week haha'

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 4:24 AM

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he wasn't a dangerous specimen, like the apes

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if a hamster goes missing, even one the size of a Pikachu, nobody really cares

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Do you think they knew about how successful they were with Hammond?

valid shell May 1, 2019, 4:33 AM

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It's possible Hammond's brain kept developing post-earthfall.

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 4:34 AM

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Hammond was sneaky about it

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I don't think the scientists knew how smart he was or how good of an engineer he had become

gentle token May 1, 2019, 4:37 AM

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My theory for why Hammond is a hamster and not another ape is that they probably wanted, as Doctor_Six said, to experiment on non ape like creatures. As hamsters and apes are pretty genetically different, so they could further test what their enhancements could work on. And it did in fact work

final shard May 1, 2019, 5:49 AM

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What about a rat?

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punchboi

gentle token May 1, 2019, 5:55 AM

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Maybe all they had available was a hamster

final shard May 1, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Probably the cheapest that they could get. And was mentally unstable

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 6:23 AM

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I still think it was someone's pet that they smuggled on board

regal coyote May 1, 2019, 7:31 AM

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@peak escarp On Gerard/Harold/Antonio. The case is not totally the same

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Gerard is a "body found" case so he is definitely dead. And probably have multiple witness.

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Antonio Is a most msot likely dead case, while we dont see body we know he is blasted, through sharp windows and smacked down from a high place, so definitely dead.

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Harold is presumed dead.

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I think even Winston did not see him dead.

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 7:33 AM

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Antonio is confirmed dead

regal coyote May 1, 2019, 7:33 AM

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That is why i say definitely dead

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 7:33 AM

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Harold is presumed dead, but it would be a massive plot hole if he turned up alive

regal coyote May 1, 2019, 7:34 AM

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agree

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but idea is that he still falls in the classic "no body found" case

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so technicallly could be in some kinda cryo, or held captive, or driven insane

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It would make a better story to keep him just dead though yeah

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But remember Harold is the basis of every character in overwatch so to speak, in terms of production.

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so yeah it is easier to make mroe footage of him in flashback

ebon silo May 1, 2019, 9:43 AM

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Apart from being in the same OW universe, I still don't know how Dva fits into the lore.

golden gyro May 1, 2019, 9:44 AM

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Dva is kind of a off character from my understanding

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her affiliation is still kinda ambiguous

ebon silo May 1, 2019, 9:45 AM

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Yeah it seems so. Like when you read up on OW lore and the events, pretty much every character is involved in some ways. Except Dva and Ashe (but at least she has her connections with Mccree).

celest ruin May 1, 2019, 12:12 PM

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D.va is a worldwide icon like Lucio

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That's pretty much her connection to the lore, she fights omnics and is famous

devout sable May 1, 2019, 1:39 PM

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@ebon silo she's a local that the Overwatch squad will probably be working with if they ever travel to South Korea

pastel verge May 1, 2019, 3:33 PM

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widowok

fading ore May 1, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Does the lore even make sense??

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 4:15 PM

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it does if you care to look at it

fading ore May 1, 2019, 4:15 PM

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ok

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(:

pliant sparrow May 1, 2019, 5:17 PM

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There’s just a lot of things we don’t know

teal meadow May 1, 2019, 5:17 PM

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@fading ore how about your sense of humor?

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(:

fringe blade May 1, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Does Lucio's gun use hard light?

half pasture May 1, 2019, 5:36 PM

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I think everything is sonic tech

hallow vessel May 1, 2019, 6:39 PM

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I lucio's gun is sonic, but his sound barrier is hard light the way sym's old shield gen was

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 7:06 PM

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sound barrier probably isnt canon

limpid agate May 1, 2019, 7:08 PM

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His whole equipment seems to be

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Converting sound into hard light

regal coyote May 1, 2019, 7:15 PM

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we dont know what the equipment does for lucio, but we knwo it does play music and sound, and supposed to pacify riots or somethng like that, but we dont knwo what lucio did to the equipment.

#

he is the son of the inventor so probably know something about it

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the only thing we are sure is the skates, it works wonders and is actually a thing in the ow world

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but it is not soemthing like one of a kind or soemthing, i mean lucioball is a thing and there are players, also there is a lucio video game and yeah it is a ball game.

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so yeah lucio ability probably not as canon as we know about.

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the closest thing probable is the a bility to skate, and his music being dank af

ebon wadi May 1, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Is lucioball called lucioball in lore ?

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If so, was it invented by our lucio, just popularized by him, or was he named after it ?

cunning ledge May 1, 2019, 7:27 PM

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lucioball probably doesn't exist in the lore

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also hi grett

ebon wadi May 1, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Hi

cunning ledge May 1, 2019, 7:27 PM

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been a while huh

ebon wadi May 1, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Long time no see

cunning ledge May 1, 2019, 7:28 PM

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ye

iron plume May 1, 2019, 7:28 PM

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oh shi

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and yeah even if the stadiums are there it's probably soccer or something

limpid agate May 1, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Lucioball is canon.

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To an extent

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 7:28 PM

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there is the soccer game in the Busan PC bang

limpid agate May 1, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Its a video game

ebon wadi May 1, 2019, 7:28 PM

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I'm back to caring about lore, don't ask me why

cunning ledge May 1, 2019, 7:28 PM

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welcome back

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 7:29 PM

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it's called Striker Seven

cunning ledge May 1, 2019, 7:29 PM

#

how'd you like storm rising?

iron plume May 1, 2019, 7:29 PM

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~~is it because of gency being canon~~

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 7:29 PM

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which is a reference to the soccer anime game Inazuma Eleven

ebon wadi May 1, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Mostly because I'm bored, but I did enjoy the very short storm rising

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Also my list of countries in ow needs a long overdue update

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I was hoping we'd get a comic/short text like Bastet along with Storm Rising though

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But Chu is too busy eating ramen

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 7:33 PM

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the event isn't over yet

iron plume May 1, 2019, 7:33 PM

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and I doubt it's up to him

ebon wadi May 1, 2019, 7:34 PM

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I know I'm being a dick

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 7:37 PM

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that meme has gotten old

iron plume May 1, 2019, 7:38 PM

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"chu ships gency cause he's a weeb" is all the rage nowadays

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 7:40 PM

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that meme has gone rancid

high thunder May 1, 2019, 7:41 PM

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Who is Bastet? Isn't that an Ana skin?

iron plume May 1, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Bastet is a story

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!!loretext

twilit nacelleBOT May 1, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Short Stories:
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM

News Reports:
Fading Glory; Jack Morrison: http://bit.ly/2f9TPq4
Experimental Weapon Stolen: http://bit.ly/2fMrKsj
Lucio's Synaesthesia World Tour: http://bit.ly/2flja2U
LumériCo: http://bit.ly/1XAJfd1
Overwatch is Back: http://bit.ly/1TAWebT
LumériCo Revealed: http://bit.ly/2e6P5oj
Portero Steps Down: http://bit.ly/2fk8Bes
Efi Oladele Interview: http://bit.ly/2miMZkT
Horizon Lunar Colony: http://bit.ly/2reMSKx
Attack on Helix: http://bit.ly/2tn45mk
Oslo Attack: https://bit.ly/2uHKXUr

Documents:
Mei's Adventure: http://bit.ly/2fMxRg4
Torb's Letter: http://bit.ly/2HK4CWa
Venice Declassified: https://bit.ly/2Hs807B
Cuerva: https://bit.ly/2BHEqd9

Travel Guides:
Oasis: http://bit.ly/2iPTM4K
Paris: https://bit.ly/2GEyOoq

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 7:44 PM

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the skin was released to promote the story

high thunder May 1, 2019, 7:45 PM

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I just watched the cute animation

#

I might be a fool, but I can't figure out why Mercy was scared at the end?

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Anyone know?

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 7:49 PM

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cute animation?

high thunder May 1, 2019, 7:50 PM

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The animation with the mice in suits

iron plume May 1, 2019, 7:50 PM

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dillongoo's

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i presume

high thunder May 1, 2019, 7:50 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO6UVPRWtCI&feature=youtu.be

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Yes

iron plume May 1, 2019, 7:51 PM

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that's not canon
but presumably because she sees ana who is supposed to be dead just walk in all chill

high thunder May 1, 2019, 7:51 PM

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Ah

ebon wadi May 1, 2019, 7:54 PM

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I'm sorry because this must have been rehashed a thousand times already, but what's the speculation so far on the omnic at the end of Storm Rising ?

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 7:55 PM

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best guess is he's with Null Sector

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worst guess is he's Anubis

solemn tartan May 1, 2019, 7:57 PM

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lol

pliant sparrow May 1, 2019, 8:02 PM

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I thought worst guess was he’s Baptiste

teal meadow May 1, 2019, 8:14 PM

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that guy also has tron voice actor

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 8:17 PM

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you're right

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that is the worst guess

high thunder May 1, 2019, 8:37 PM

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I used to think it was Baptiste

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My brother made me realize that was unreasonable and dumb

desert hawk May 1, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Who’s Anubis? Want me it just like a computer thingy?

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Wasn’t he*

high thunder May 1, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Wasn't it an AI?

pliant sparrow May 1, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Yeah

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 8:43 PM

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yeah Anubis is an AI

pliant sparrow May 1, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Basically an evil A.I I think

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Isn’t it guarded by helix?

dawn halo May 1, 2019, 8:44 PM

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An evil A.I that is indiscriminate with who controls, as long as what it control is within range.

high thunder May 1, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Didn't it attack the Helix Guards or what Pharah's little group is called?

pliant sparrow May 1, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Yeah

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It’s contained in/near Anubis and attempted to break out at least once

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 8:45 PM

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and it was quarantined before it broke out in Pharah's comic

high thunder May 1, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Then how on Earth would an Omnic be an AI?

pliant sparrow May 1, 2019, 8:46 PM

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It’s not an omnic

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It’s similar to Athena

high thunder May 1, 2019, 8:47 PM

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I'm referencing the Omnic at the end of Storm Rising

pliant sparrow May 1, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Ah

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 8:47 PM

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that comic's ending was a little unclear - did they shut Anubis down, or did they just put it back in quarantine?

pliant sparrow May 1, 2019, 8:47 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I don’t think they can shut it down but I’m not sure

high thunder May 1, 2019, 8:48 PM

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I think they quarantined it

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But I'm not sure

pliant sparrow May 1, 2019, 8:51 PM

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It’s never been mentioned since

high thunder May 1, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Bye

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 9:05 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20190501-140336_Drive.jpg

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Tariq says he can paralyze it

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and that's what happened

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but they go in with the intention of killing it

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📎 Screenshot_20190501-141028_Drive.jpg

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so I think Anubis is dead

limpid agate May 1, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Disagreed

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📎 unknown.png

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Anubis isn't destroyed

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 10:05 PM

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hmmm

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that's before Tariq activates the feedback loop

limpid agate May 1, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Yes

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ANd after the intention to kill

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Tariq specifically uses the word "paralyze" as well

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Its just shown to be disabled, not destroyed

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 10:11 PM

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I still don't think Anubis will be relevant again

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unless they show the first time Overwatch shut it down

limpid agate May 1, 2019, 10:15 PM

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I think they will

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Alternatively

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Doomfist might want Anubis for his mission

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It certainly seems to be a powerful enough... Not sure if I want to say "tool" or "ally" here.

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 10:29 PM

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depends how long Anubis was shut down for this time

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because it does look like it was completely shut down

half pasture May 1, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Doomfist's speech about what our mysterious omnic has done for his people makes me think Null Sector

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Or I dunno, maybe he's one of the monks

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An Eviiiil Zenyatta

peak escarp May 1, 2019, 11:39 PM

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not likely