It tends to be the most vocal part of the community which is I still believe a small part but they're just annoying loud
#lore-discussion
worthy rose
somber birch
cause there are those who say “who cares, how does this affect the game?” And then there are those who, like you said, want all of that
valid shell
But it's in their field of vision so they feel the need to dig through it to ensure it's not Problematic™.
worthy rose
them and the people who still demand brig to be deleted
somber birch
i see it as gamer bros vs people from tumblr lol
worthy rose
probs
valid shell
Anyways, we're getting real real off base.
devout sable
@valid shell giving Pharah a half-brother sounds like an amazing idea
I'm super down with it
worthy rose
Speaking of representation, it is believed that one of the ex-horizon lunar colony scientists escaped and now runs lucheng interstellar, however they have a wheelchair. Is it in the realm of possibility that we will see our first handicapped hero or not?
peak escarp
plenty of heroes are handicapped
worthy rose
Well, I meant as in a wheelchair hero
peak escarp
I don't think they would put a wheelchair hero in the came
shooting at a handicapped person isn't very PC
worthy rose
Well as you said, there are already handicapped heroes
peak escarp
the Lucheng CEO didn't escape from the ape uprising, they probably left long before that
worthy rose
Then whats the explanation for Harold Winston's spacesuit being missing? did he die as he was about to get in to the escape craft?
peak escarp
someone else could have taken it
one of the apes could have taken it
Winston could have taken it
worthy rose
well I doubt the apes would fit inside the suit if im honest
and in the wrecking ball origin story we see winston is just wearing his classic skin
peak escarp
Winston could have taken it to disassemble and figure out how to make his own suit
and/or use it for parts
worthy rose
true
peak escarp
Harold being alive presents massive plot holes
it's simpler to assume he died on the moon with all the other scientists
worthy rose
Blizzard sure loves retcon though
peak escarp
not really
very few things have been retconned
and those that have were changed during the beta
nothing released after the game launched has been retconned
peak escarp
yes, and that change was made during the beta because they realized that StarCraft gameplay had very little to do with piloting a mech
(ironically, one of the other members of MEKA seems to be a StarCraft pro)
worthy rose
which one? Overlord?
peak escarp
yeah
worthy rose
I still love the idea of drones that work like destroyable zen orbs with different functions
peak escarp
his codename and his mech's name are StarCraft references, and he fights using drones
worthy rose
If any meka squad member will become a hero, my money is on Overlord
peak escarp
I don't care if he becomes a hero or not, but I'd like to learn more about Casino
devout sable
@worthy rose there's no official explanation on the missing spacesuit, and Harold is best considered 'dead until stated otherwise'
there's a tiny possibility that he's alive, in that he was never specifically stated to be among the killed
but, he most likely was
and until we have any reason to believe he wasn't, it's best to assume that he was
dapper shuttle
https://imgur.com/HHw3hcJ There was a malfunction at an airlock on Horizon, Harold Winston was the first to notice and he asked everyone to come assist him. Airlock "malfunctioning" while everyone is gathered around it and Winston, being the only one who had time to put his suit on is how I think the mutiny went down
peak escarp
maybe he was doing maintenance outside the base and the malfunction made it so he couldn't get back in
dapper shuttle
Winston had a suit of his own, with the lucheng logo on it. We don't know if all specimens had custom-made suits but Winston had one
The "adult gorilla took a human-sized suit" theory has to die
peak escarp
also the "malfunction" was most likely ape sabotage
dapper shuttle
Most definitely
"airlock ** E-35 **"
we can see that the part of the colony we're playing in (highlighted in orange) is called E so the malfunctioning airlock was probably in the playable section of the map, close to where the suits were kept
I still have no idea what the "scientist status" (probably a location tracker) means, does it mean that there are 12 scientists still alive on the colony? Still alive even though Hammond and Winston are missing, aka left the base to go to Earth?
peak escarp
could be tracking bodies
dapper shuttle
They could be tracking the locations of the DEAD scientists but then the airlock scenario makes no sense
they didn't make it to the airlock so why even mention the airlock? Makes no sense
Maybe E35 wasn't the only malfunctioning airlock and the apes sabotaged airlocks in all sectors
https://imgur.com/5GogF2y and then there is this, Zhang, the scientist who responded toHarold's airlock message
is Zhang still in sector E, the playable part of the colony?
dawn halo
What allowed the apes to take over Lucheng and uprise on the colony.
devout sable
@dapper shuttle I'm pretty sure that message is one of the apes using Winston's communicator
the "need everyone to come at once" is a dead giveaway
novel basin
how do you get acess to that photos and files?
dapper shuttle
Well idk slig, whenever there's a life threatening accident happening, people tend to do something about it or call for help if they know it requires more than one person to take care of it
We don't know how the experiments impacted the other specimens. We know it enhanced Winston and Hammond's intellectual capacities but they might be "miracles"
would other specimens be smart enough to type messages
and, verdepirata, I have access to the game files, that's how I get these
Before Wrecking Ball was revealed, we had room to imagine that Hammond was responsible for the mutiny since he had stolen tools and was moving around the colony freely in the ventilation system
Now we know he's a hamster and he seems nice enough that this theory doesn't hold anymore
So the question remains : who is the big bad? Could Lucheng be responsible for the sabotage? It seems that the space station they have in orbit around the earth is malfunctioning as well (look at the big yellow hologram of the space station above the point of Lijiang Control Center, you'll see DANGER signs and hear a siren going off), maybe someone is sabotaging Lucheng's projects
devout sable
I mean, didn't Winston explicitly say "the others hatched a plan"?
do we have a reason to think that it wasn't just the apes?
dapper shuttle
"and the doctors, my friends" as the airlock opens
"they were all gone"
so yes the specimens could have typed the message, but they didn't have to, really. Simply sabotaging the airlock, knowing that all the scientists would gather to fix it (malfunctioning airlocks are a big no no in space)
slow goblet
An all hands on deck situation. The more people available to help with an emergency like that the better, probably.
peak escarp
- Moira experimented on him
- ???
- Reaper
we don't know much about how he became the way he is
he's still recognizable under his mask though - Ana didn't realize it was him until she unmasked him
I think we'll get to see his face eventually
dawn halo
Will each character be forced to fight other characters in the future?
dawn halo
Will we get actual battles that matter?
peak escarp
such as?
dawn halo
Those that'll decide how the Overwatch present day will be going after them.
bold socket
why is there a lore section
bold socket
forreal
dawn halo
Yes.
peak escarp
take a look - you might like it
frosty shell
I wonder if Harold Winston was the first scientist killed
timid eagle
I'm starting to think Gabe/Reaper looks like a decomposing zombie at this point.
desert yacht
she
and she's learning towards the good side, helping with the omnic crisis in russia
supple bear
whys everyone think zaryas male...
white cobalt
He is baiting and shitposting...
lean prawn
zarya's pretty lawful good
frosty shell
Before Doomfist became a hero I always assumed the Scourge was the one who Winston defeated
Hence why the Suceessor's appearance was a mystery
limpid agate
Moving swiftly onwards
timid eagle
But, yeah. I really am curious to see what Gabe looks like under that mask.
worthy rose
What's so bad about Reaper's condition anyway?
He seems capable enough to do what he loves, apparently
We don't know.
Is he afraid of ventilation or something?
But I'd assume that the mask looks more normal than his face.
I mean he looked normal before, even with powers
limpid agate
I imagine he is in constant pain or suffering
worthy rose
I wonder what happened
That caused the degeneration
I suspect that the explosion of the Swiss base caused some sort of problem with his powers.
supple bear
are we expecting a comic this week?
worthy rose
Yes, with Archives.
limpid agate
If the comic isn't this week its next week
dawn halo
Let's have a little talk about Overwatch alternate history, what if Null Sector succeeded in their goals?
peak escarp
then the government would have caved and omnics would have equal rights in England
and humans would resent them for using terrorism to achieve their goals
dawn halo
In turn, increasing anti omnic sentiment in other parts of the world.
peak escarp
omnics unrelated to Null Sector would be the target of hatred and discrimination, just like certain ethnic groups are today
limpid agate
London would also be a shithole, probably. Like Cairo
dawn halo
What about Overwatch itself?
Regardless if they sent the strike team or not.
I can see them losing even more reputation then they have already for failing if they sent the strike team.
peak escarp
Overwatch might have found a way to get back into the UN's good graces if they didn't go against orders
if they sent the strike team and failed, the hostages would have been murdered, and the military would respond with extreme hostility, possibly bombing King's Row
if they didn't send a strike team, things would be resolved with less violence, but still result in long term hostilities between humans and omnics
dawn halo
Do we have any ideas to how the international community responded to the events of Kings Row?
limpid agate
In both scenarios, failure or success, Mondatta dies.
peak escarp
yep
dawn halo
Because Widowmaker.
peak escarp
because he's an omnic leader
dawn halo
Still, surviving the uprising only extended his life by more than half a decade.
peak escarp
but with Widowmaker killing him, he died a martyr
limpid agate
No I mean
He would have died because he was a hostage
But he was rescued, and then later killed anyways at the same place
dawn halo
Still, let's get back to the main what if, will Null Sector carry out attacks internationally, because there are other areas that are anti omnic too.
peak escarp
it would result in the Second Omnic Crisis
dawn halo
And one Null Sector will easily lose unless they have an omnium on their side.
If four well armed and trained people with special powers can destroy hundreds of them, thousands or millions of well armed and trained soldiers with vehicles, air support, and all the gadgets of modern war could easily destroy them unless NS does an asspull or has a secret weapon to use.
peak escarp
not just Null Sector
dawn halo
Other omnic factions too?
peak escarp
their actions might prompt the Siberian omnium (the ones fighting Russia now) to attack sooner
the King's Row uprising was only 7 years ago
dawn halo
If that's the case, Null Sector will still be destroyed unless omnics have a special way to transport newly manufactured omnics to other parts of the world within hours.
peak escarp
tensions must have been high since then
dawn halo
True.
peak escarp
and we don't know when the Svyatogors went into production - the Siberian omnium could win against Russia if they aren't in play by then
dawn halo
Can omnics build omniums by themselves?
peak escarp
Katya might never get her informant, so she wouldn't have access to omnic tech
dawn halo
I believe like in our modern world, connectives can amplify the power of a force. Like the Siberian omnium handling it's own front while supplying Null Sector with more forces to supplement it.
Omnics have high potential to be anything.
I'm not surprised if they can assemble and formulate omnic construction groups to build new omniums and stuff for their own use.
peak escarp
I wonder if anyone served jail time over Overwatch's downfall
I think Jack/Gabe probably would have if they weren't "dead"
dawn halo
If Jack and Gab were fighting, it's certain many would find out the destruction their fight happening and would escape the headquarters.
I believe some did witness Jack vs Gabriel and escaped before the HQ blew up.
peak escarp
the only one who was still around to face the music was Mercy and Torb
dawn halo
I assume there have been more people to see it, however were unable to escape prior to the HQ blowing up or are imprisoned for being associated with OW.
peak escarp
McCree and Genji bailed early, Reinhardt was forced to retire, Ana, Gabe and Jack were all "dead"
Moira was disgraced
I don't mean their fight specifically
dawn halo
I'm talking about the unnamed people, the common rank and file of OW.
peak escarp
I mean Overwatch getting shut down
I don't care about the rank and file
it's not their fault
dawn halo
I think a small percentage survived the downfall of Overwatch, before being wrongfully imprisoned because of association with the leadership and more notable members of the group. Some survived by not being at the HQ by the time the fight happened, or those who escaped before it blew.
peak escarp
we know Mercy spoke at the hearing when the UN was investigating the explosion
dawn halo
I'm expecting a few dozen rank and files OW associates to be arrested via association.
peak escarp
what would they be charged with? Overwatch was acting legally until Uprising, and even then that was just Jack and the strike team
dawn halo
We don't know the full scope of the group, there could be numerous things happening that may be enough for someone to charge them with something.
peak escarp
if anything it would be Blackwatch that was on the hook
dawn halo
At least, some Blackwatch associates are getting arrested for association and/or committing actions under it's name.
peak escarp
Overwatch probably did enough damage control to keep their names out of the news
worthy rose
What would happen if omnics could reproduce with humans?
dawn halo
I don't think so, unless were talking about the omnic underground.
And it'll be horrible.
I can't imagine a human omnic hybrid.
I'll need a barf bag if I see a newborn caused by a human and an omnic.
Wait...
What if there are sex omnics that have eggs and sperm put into them from fertility centers.
That gives a possible answer to the debacle, there are sex omnics but must get the sex cells from the fertility centers.
But then that sparks another question regarding female sex omnics.
More likely, sex omnics are prostitutes.
peak escarp
this conversation got weird
peak escarp
this is a place for discussing the answers we have, not making up answers for things that really shouldn't be answered
dawn halo
My mistake.
worthy rose
Well, my question stems from the fact there are some human/omnic relationships implied out there
But I suppose my line of questioning went off in the wrong direction
peak escarp
apparently writing all the dialogue in the game, supervising recording sessions, writing backstory for every hero and map, consulting with the artists and design team, and providing reference material to 3rd party products is "not much"
dawn halo
That is alot of work for the writing staff.
Dialogue context defines character relationships, making backstory adds history, and reference material helps keep third party protects in line with the game itself.
peak escarp
and yet people are constantly complaining that the writers are doing nothing
dawn halo
But the biggest pain for the writing staff is defining what happens in events, animated shorts, and comics, basically things that provide major answers.
Not saying the other stuff isn't a pain, it's that the macro scaled things are the bigger pains of the writing staff.
peak escarp
just because we don't see the writing, doesn't mean it isn't getting done
a lot more goes on behind the scenes than people realize
dawn halo
I think most of the day for the writing staff is thinking things up.
peak escarp
not just in writing, but in all aspects of game development
dawn halo
Basically that yes. Kaplan probably has the biggest burden of them all.
But still, I assume the writing staff probably spends most of it's day thinking things up for the story, and the minority parts of the day is actually putting those ideas on paper, submitting things, and paperwork, alongside other important functions to ensure the story's integrity.
worthy rose
Yeah, it'd be a lot faster but lesser quality if it was just one hombre writing the story
imo
limpid agate
I'm sure the lore would be visibly faster if it were monetizable.
Blizzards experience with that so far is not a good one
peak escarp
don't they do novels for some of their other properties?
worthy rose
I mean, an Overwatch movie or tv series would likely make mad money
but that ship has probably sailed due to the game being older now
timid eagle
I would be happy with an anthology series.
Presenting a different story and a different set of characters in each episode would be a way to cover different characters or to expand the worlds lore.
regal coyote
the thing is, mercy being the little overly-ethical piece of whatever she is at times, is going against overwatch at hearings instead of trying to defend it.
Then again after the swiss incident most people are gone.
at least the ones leading that is.
Torb is engineer, not enjoying being a leader and not into political shit most probably.
mercy is a doc, and i am sure she does not like those things either
Tracer/Winston are still relatively young in it
zinc ledge
so like how the hell did Hammond keep his idenity hidden in Junkertown
zinc ledge
why didnt Bruce say anything
limpid agate
Why would he
peak escarp
because he isn't a snitch
zinc ledge
uhhhhh
cause there's a hyper intellegent hamster
that's not something you see every day - ya know
limpid agate
Its not an omnic
zinc ledge
its a hyper intellegent hamster that came from the god damn moon
limpid agate
That's nice. Did it ask you not to tell anyone?
zinc ledge
i feel like this isint something that just some Junkertown Bum keeps his mouth shut on
why keep the mouth shut?
limpid agate
Maybe Hammond asked him not to
zinc ledge
fair
i mean if a hyper intellegent hamster told me not to i think i might just honor that out of bewilderment
but even ignoring Bruce
i think people would find it suspcious after awhile that literlaly nobody, not even Queen herself, has seen the champion outside his ball
worthy rose
Also
You guys forget
Hamsters are illegal in Australia
You wouldn't rat out a person, knowing they would be a criminal for existing?
worthy rose
I know, I'm kidding. It's neat little trivia tho
zinc ledge
i mean honestly id rather them NOT know
if only cause i think the eventual plot point of the town finding out would be funny
but at the same time i cannot deny that a LOT of fridge logic goes into nobody knowing
it requires a lot of logical stretches that, even for a town full of half-irradiated nutjobs, is a bit much
regal coyote
well, junkers hate robots in general, but really hammond is not a robot
he probably keep it on the down low cause he does not want to draw too much rodently attention
but other than that, i think even if the queen knows it is a hamster she be fine with it
as for the ball, i think part of it is built during the make shoft escape pod, and the AI might be jacked from the moon
but surely hammond modify it, and all the legs and weapons are afterfaught from getting into junkertown
bruce surely help hammond move the pod into town at least
I do suspect (totally speculation) that hammond might help bruce fix things in return, along with probably payment after he got his fame going.
also, wonder if the ball weaponary can be modular and changed, in lore at least
desert yacht
how do the junkers know that someone is piloting it
devout sable
well, Bruce probably knows about Hammond being hamster
and maybe he came up with some kind of cover story
about how the pilot is just very shy or something
ember moth
Why hanzo chinese if genji japanese??
slate yarrow
they r both japanese dude mei is the chinese one
slate yarrow
tf is wrong with u
teal meadow
Hanzo speak and looks japanese
ember moth
maybe mei korean
teal meadow
i don't get your point
teal meadow
I hope this is just shitposting
worthy rose
its literally shit posting, just report
devout sable
@ember moth Hanzo and Genji are Japanese, Mei is Chinese, D.va is Korean
it's not up for discussion, really
worthy rose
Bexause they're from Japan/China/Korea
devout sable
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paper shuttle
ok so everybody knows about the paris arg and all of that with the doors opening, well that makes me think that the gamemode will be outside of the map because something is happening/happened there.
i know i know its kind of stupid because blizz isnt teasing anything (like last time) and there will probably not be a new mission but just thought i'd say this here so i can share my ideas with people
peak escarp
there is no Paris ARG
and Blizz will tease Archives, it's just not time yet
the event starts on the 16th, so we should be getting info about it this coming week
paper shuttle
oh so that thing that was so called an "arg" was just a map introduction
paper shuttle
im still scared about archives and not a new mission
peak escarp
Jeff said there'd be something new
there's no reason not to expect a new mission - it's the only event that gets updated anymore
paper shuttle
true but if they dont add a new mission that would be very very dissapointing
...or
even more interesting that smth bigger is coming
teal meadow
Seriously people, what the actual fuck you want new for every events?
Archives is the only event that gets updates every year
deal with it
peak escarp
I want something other than LucioBall and Mei's Snowball Offensive, because I find those modes boring
I'm happy to keep playing Junkenstein though
teal meadow
But there's nothing you can add
teal meadow
no point in making a new gamemode for an event like christmas
teal meadow
boring for most of the people anyway
same with snowball fight
and people bitches about pve too
it's still a fps, you can't expect them to give you a chance to make a snowman because it's fresh
peak escarp
if you look at custom games, there's plenty you can do with an FPS
I've been wanting a proper hide-and-seek mode since the beginning
paper shuttle
ive been wanting an option for "spawn as hero you have been killed by" could be very good for an infection custom game
peak escarp
gun game is another good idea
frosty shell
Moving back on topic to lore
I doubt Null Sector could've won; they probably would've been bombed into the ground or something like that
As for the hostages IDK what they would do about them
I have a feeling Null Sector doesn't just want equal rights for Omnics; they probably want Omnic supremacy of some sort too
worthy rose
Christmas game mode
I wonder if there's any Jewish heroes?
frosty shell
I doubt any heroes that have already been introduced are Jewish
Jews don't make up a very large percentage of the world's population
worthy rose
Ouch 
iron plume
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/22940239 Havana news
river mason
Everyone check Twitter
teal meadow
As i read on that, there's also a tornado coming
Might be an archives event of a rescue mission?
worthy rose
What would the mission itself be tho?
Both Uprising and Retribution were both a payload map of some sort albeit uprising was a hybrid
strange mist
just saw the map thing and i have no idea what it could be
dapper shuttle
It's absolutely an archives map, I found this line of text in the "strings" of the newspaper image file " OW_ArchivesPrint_Newspaper_SP_m07 "
worthy rose
for archives
And since they just released Paris
I doubt it'll be 2cp
didnt paris get released on ptr in feb
dapper shuttle
Devs said they made Paris a 2CP so all classic modes had the same number of maps. Havana will be a new classic gamemode, guaranteed
dapper shuttle
nah not really, there's an interview of Renaud Galand where he's hinting at gamemodes being worked on
*Every time I go into the game designer’s office, they’re always working on mode variations, trying to make the modes more fun, more interesting. So yeah, to be clear, we’re working on that, very hard. If something’s really gotten frustrating or really broken, we’re going to try and fix it.
To the question why make another assault map for Paris, beyond the architecture that was sort of a challenge and the kind of map we wanted to make; it was also a question of balance, to add another assault map to complete the numbers. But yeah don’t worry, there’s a lot work being done on game modes, a lot of experiments going on and we’re having a lot of fun internally, so I hope something can come out on that side.
But yeah don’t lose hope, it’s really fun.
A: hm yeah, the community is really holding out for some kind of sign,
R: I know — if only I could speak!*
candid pollen
The map just got confirmed to be Havana
dapper shuttle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Night In spanish, the name of the play Viola and Orsino are from is called "Noche de reyes"
fierce isle
The face of Havana is changing,” Alicia says. Throughout our conversation, she hasn’t touched her drink. Don Rumbotico gazes down from the billboard outside, the brim of his fedora casting a shadow across his metal face. “Sometimes it feels like we’re losing a piece of ourselves. Or maybe we’ve already lost it.”
Could be reading into this a bit, but it’s almost like the writers are making a commentary on Activision acquiring Blizzard?
peak escarp
lol
dapper shuttle
@candid pollen sorry for the ping but who/what confirmed havana to be the archives map?
worthy rose
I'm pretty sure the payload is going to be from the brewery to the sea fort
which honestly
A dope af payload map
candid pollen
Ok @dapper shuttle Baptiste came out, he is a former Talon operative, ( Archives usually is about talon, blackwatch or Overwatch.) but he also grew up in the Caribbean, what else is in the Caribbeans, Cuba, Havana is the capital of Cuba and what did we just get an update on, Havana wich is close to the usual date of the archives event
peak escarp
it's clear that this is a teaser for the event
it couldn't be anything else based on the timing
and they don't give us lore info "just because"
candid pollen
Yeah but in the Caribbean
iron plume
which is very different from "literally from Havana"
dapper shuttle
Oh so, no dev actually confirmed it
I agree though, especially since the name of the file is "ow archives newspaper"
candid pollen
yeah
dawn halo
It looks like what I said a few weeks ago turns out to be true, the Archives mission is in Havana.
teal meadow
i can't wait to speculate here about the lore that's behind it
dawn halo
Most likely is it's related to Talon.
As it has the most unused heroes in a mission yet.
Or is it certain?
supple bear
Wait so are we speculating a Havana talon mission?
teal meadow
i think it's an old rescue mission made by overwatch
considering it's based during an incoming hurricane
supple bear
Does anyone think it may have a connection to Caribbean coalition?
dawn halo
It may.
Like Talon could be using it's external persona to do something with the CC to it's advantage.
teal meadow
Wait, so baptiste lost his teammates during that hurricane? might be?
timid eagle
It's possible.
But I have no clue if this is going to be a Talon mission, an Overwatch mission, or something else entirely.
dawn halo
Out of all the heroes, many of us who regularly discuss stuff in here agree it's likely to be a Talon mission and Widowmaker, Sombra, Doomfist, and Baptiste are the heroes going to be involved.
timid eagle
Depending on what year the mission takes place (IF it's a Talon mission), wouldn't Sombra be too young in 2060?
Like, 14-15?
peak escarp
if the mission is in 2060, most of those heroes wouldn't work
Sombra would be a teen, Widowmaker was still Amelie Lacroix
dawn halo
Wrong me, wrong me.
timid eagle
Akande would still be under the wing of The Scourge, and Baptiste would be 21. So I guess bump it up to 2065?
dawn halo
Current year is 2077 if we take 2076 as the year Recall occured.
Overwatch's downfall was in 2071 or 72.
Taking that, Uprising occurred in 2069 or 2070, seven years before present day.
Retribution happened a year prior and Doomfist's defeat a year after Uprising.
worthy rose
Yeah, timelines are sometimes scary, trying to figure them out, but luckily Blizzard is good with giving them out n stuff
dawn halo
It's even more scary since it occurs the current century.
worthy rose
Yeah
Just thinking about stuff like that happening in this century???
I’m like, sweating just thinking about it
dawn halo
OW takes place in the mid-end of the 21st century, while real life is in the early 21st century.
It's scary, but don't get too worked up.
worthy rose
Yeah, if there are smart monkeys and smart hamsters then we need to watch out lmao
dawn halo
Pray that the scientists don't screw up unlike those in the OW timeline.
worthy rose
Next thing you know there are gonna be sharks in robots destroying everything or something
I dunno
And yeah, we could have something like Athena, hell, we already have Siri, Alexa, and Google
dawn halo
To take a real life example, video games went from 8 bit graphics to high quality 64 bit graphics is around 30 years.
frosty shell
it feels weird that Super Mario World came out just 10 years before I was born
worthy rose
That’s a huge advancement
candid pollen
This may sound crazy but why do i get a feeling that a new hero could be introduced during/after the event linked ti the event
worthy rose
I feel like there’ll be one a month or two afterwards maybe
Who do you think it’ll be?
The next hero I mean
timid eagle
Jeff himself had already confirmed that the hero that premiered in McCree's short isn't Hero 30 or Hero 31.
I'm guessing she will debut at BlizzCon later this year.
peak escarp
the next hero will come in July
worthy rose
Yeah, July, it’s on their schedule for releasing heroes
peak escarp
they've revealed the new map with Archives, and it looks like they're doing it again with Havana
but it's too early for a new hero
worthy rose
Yeah
hearty yacht
how do you know he's coming out in july? o;
worthy rose
Blizzard is probably gonna tease them late April, then give us something about them mid June, then release them early July in ptr
Blizzard has a schedule for releasing characters
hearty yacht
is that schedule out for anyone to look at or is it something they said?
worthy rose
People online who are diehard fans have tracked it and they mostly stick to it
supple bear
previously it's been march, july, november
worthy rose
Yeah
timid eagle
And that rotation has been pretty consistent.
worthy rose
Yeah, like I said, they stick to their schedule
peak escarp
it's the pattern of releases they've kept for the last 3 years
worthy rose
It might be related to McCree’s short or it might be something else entirely
God I hope it’s a Talon Tank
peak escarp
red are heroes, blue are maps, green are events
(open the original image to read the text)
peak escarp
they have followed more or less predictable releases since launch
worthy rose
Yeah
I’m excited for this new hero tbh
I hope it’s something fire related because of their experimentation with burn damage and stuff
A flamethrower hero would be cool
peak escarp
the only time they've diverged from this release pattern is the May/June map
worthy rose
Yeah :T
peak escarp
Horizon dropped in June 2017, but Rialto came early in 2018, being launched in May because it had already been seen in Retribution
it may be the same this year with Havana, since it will be the Archives map
worthy rose
Yeah
hearty yacht
i hope it's a main tank
peak escarp
and if I stack each year on top of each other, you see how regular the heroes/maps/events actually are
Halloween and Winter events have happened in the same 3 weeks every year
the Anniversary event is also pretty regular, although it has only been going for 2 years
worthy rose
That’s lit
peak escarp
the releases are regular enough that I can generally predict it down to 1-2 weeks
feral sequoia
@peak escarp yeah its been pretty easy the last... year maybe 2. im excited for archives this year
did any one see that "leaked" release schedule that came out?
peak escarp
it was an April Fools post
feral sequoia
from who? blizzard?
peak escarp
Stylosa
feral sequoia
oh what a dickbag
i dont think i watched the video i think i just saw the thumbnail. did he at least make it somewhat obvious?
peak escarp
I mean, Blizzard doesn't have a 2 year schedule, so just the content made it obvious that it was a fake
dapper shuttle
twitter screenshots aren't lore but, Alyssa Wong and Michael Chu, both writers, being sad for Basilio (the founder of Rumbotico)...
reef dagger
You know, I never really thought of the Talon Sombra skin as being canon
peak escarp
lol
reef dagger
It doesn't really make sense for her character, but rumor has it she might be played in the next event in that Talon skin.
Regardless if that's true or not
dapper shuttle
"almost two centuries ago" is when they founded Rumbotico. Damn what's there to be sad about, i don't get it
reef dagger
I'm just curious about the skin itself
dapper shuttle
If the new archives is 16 years ago, no way sombra is in it, she's 30
reef dagger
Are dates mentioned in the teasers?
dapper shuttle
I think they meant decades, not centuries, no way it's centuries
peak escarp
the newspaper has the year 2060, but it also mentions things happening after 2060
so it's vague
reef dagger
Somehow I don't get the impression that the event will take place too far in the past
peak escarp
why couldn't the rum company be 2 centuries old?
reef dagger
Like the hurricane warning
dapper shuttle
Why would the writers be sad about Basilio if he founded the company 2 centuries ago and has been dead for practically that long as well
peak escarp
because they're playing along?
dapper shuttle
hmmmm
peak escarp
also Basilio's image was removed from the brand when the company got bought out
which is recent
and something to be "sad" about
limpid agate
2060 can be one of two things.
1 - Present day for us
2 - Present day for Archives
peak escarp
both options seem unlikely
if it's OW present day, it's not the "60 years from now" they've been saying all along
if it's Archives present day, which heroes are available to be playable?
limpid agate
Considering we don't have a present day in OW yet
And ~2076 was always an assumption
peak escarp
true
chilly peak
there's third option. 2060 is foundation of Talon
peak escarp
what makes you say that?
chilly peak
nah, I take that back
peak escarp
I thought 2060 would be the founding date of the newspaper
limpid agate
Usually, copyright is the most recent date
Rather than the original
So 2060 is when this newspaper was published
The question is, when was it published
Present day
Or when Archives is set
We don't know that yet
2060 also goes into that whole "about 60 years in the future" idea. Its closer to 40, but the number itself is 60
Explains the 2020s omnic branded stuff on Numbani too
chilly peak
I think this newspaper article is just a way to tell us that Talon has it's base in Havana.
And Archives mission would be Overwatch raid on that base. Even if we ignore that (probably faked) achievment it is still possible that Widowmaker would be playable character. Then new mission happens after Retribution
limpid agate
The achievement is fake
If Widow is playable, its not playable Overwatch but playable Talon
frosty shell
2060 is when Talon (or whoever) bought Rumbotico
The date on the paper might be a mistake??
limpid agate
No, that's not accurate
2060 is when the article takes place
Or at the very least
Is after that yea
frosty shell
No, in the article it says 2060 is when Rumbotico was bought out
chilly peak
Rumbotico was bought some time before article
limpid agate
Find me the quote please
chilly peak
in 2060 it already was a worldwide brand
limpid agate
^
frosty shell
it says "Until 2060, few outside of Cuba knew the name Don Rumbotico"
Indicating that was when it was bought out
limpid agate
Incorrect
It was rebranded to Don Rumbotico
Before that
Meaning it was bought out before that
frosty shell
not really
limpid agate
The order given is:
Bought out
Rebranded
Worldwide fame
chilly peak
"But things have changed in recent years. An anonymous financial group expressed interest in purchasing the company and distillery."
limpid agate
You are skipping steps
Your impression is
With 2060 being the buyout date
Until 2060, few outside of Cuba knew the name Don Rumbotico
... Because Don Rumbotico didn't exist.
frosty shell
But if Don Rumbotico didn't exist, wouldn't the sentence read "Until 2060, no one had heard of Don Rumbotico"
nothing says the rebranding happened after the buyout, just that Don Rumbotico replaced Diaz as the mascot of the company
limpid agate
Admittedly, the Don Rumbotico name change must've been pretty recent in the company's history, but it seems that it existed before the buyout
The article refers to "The classic Don Rumbotico recipe" as well
chilly peak
Don Rumbotico exists for almost 200 years, but before 205X, Diaz family didn't care about global market
peak escarp
why would a 200 year old company be named after robots?
frosty shell
However, the name "Don Rumbotico" is probably pretty recent
chilly peak
because of BOT in it?
frosty shell
My theory is that Don Rumbotico was a brand introduced by the Diaz company before it was bought out (perhaps right after the Crisis)
"Rumbotico" is a parody of "Robotico" pretty obviously
frosty shell
it could be an amazingly fortutious coincidence but that's unlikely
worthy rose
Wouldn’t it be cool if it was a solo player mission and you were Baptiste and you had to escape from talon operatives in there? Cuz I’m his intro short it did look like a warehouse
That one shot of him sitting on boxes with talon operatives tied up
They were crates too, and crates hold rum sometimes
chilly peak
anyway, from the text it seems like Talon first bought distillery, then Sea Fort
limpid agate
It was a Talon themed lootbox
chilly peak
singleplayer mission would be in contradictory with Blizzard's intention. Which is play with your friends or make new ones
worthy rose
True
dapper shuttle
An anonymous financial group expressed interest doesn't seem like Talon to bother with this kind of thing, buying a distillery in a "small" country to rebrand it
I'm betting on yet another new faction/entity
limpid agate
Anonymous financial groups sounds exactly like Talon
As well as the Fort
Especially if this purchase was made during the Vialli era
Which would be between Retribution and the present
frosty shell
yes
peak escarp
I think this is the first major thing Alyssa Wong has worked on for OW
she's been commenting about it
hasty surge
Yes lore
peak escarp
We'll finally have something new to discuss
dawn halo
What could be happening in Cuba for there to be an Archives?
And Doctor, I'm taking what you said by "new" is actually discussing about new lore, not the majority of the time where most of us just talk about other subjects relating to Overwatch's world.
And if the "lore drought" ending is to be believed, this channel will probably be more busy than normal.
limpid agate
A raid
Someone has a private army on a fort
Probably to defend something
I imagine that fort is being raided
dawn halo
The only things we do know is it's in Havana, relates to an old distillery, and it's proximity to Haiti basically certain's Baptiste's involvement.
I'm going to say it, Baptiste is probably going to have a big role in the story at large.
low prairie
I hope it's about stealing all the rum
dawn halo
I think it houses competitors to Talon and now Talon wants to destroy the distillery to inflict a blow on them.
low prairie
I don't care if the rum is used to smuggle something or not, but I want it
dawn halo
I'm already visualizing Baptiste running with his equipment, shooting down enemy grunts and his other three allies advancing forward deeper into the distillery.
And if I want to be grand, Talon gunboats filling the fort's waters, blockading the distillery's protectors via sea.
All while Talon prepares to execute a pincer movement to capture their target, the distillery.
peak escarp
I mean a new discussion topic
90% of the conversations here are rehashing the same theories we've been discussing for months
the other 10% is explaining the lore to new people (and shutting down shitposters)
somber birch
So you don’t think it’ll be the widow, doomfist sombra baptiste mission people were guessing ?
would that even make sense lol
limpid agate
I think it will
zinc ledge
Hey fellas
limpid agate
Im thinking the event will drop on Thursday
The weather report says that Thursday is when the storm starts
limpid agate
I didnt trust them to begin with
My first reaction was "Neat"
Then after a while
Thought "Hold up, why would the date be on there for Retribution rather than Archives or the new mode?"
Especially given the alleged source being
playoverwatch updating too early
And then going back
The fake leaker was banking on there being a rerun of Retribution and nothing new
peak escarp
how do you explain it being in multiple languages?
limpid agate
Spanish and English?
Its not a difficult edit to just change the language of "Retribution"
limpid agate
🤷
white cobalt
You can switch the page language and do a edit if you know enough html/CSS stuff
Although I have my doubts about the event starting this Thursday, but we got stuff about Havana, so eeh, I'll just wait I guess
hasty surge
Do we know if Bapsitse is from Havana?
timber sundial
not that i’m aware of
hasty surge
And talon is doing this to lure
bapsitse out?
teal meadow
if it's based on bapiste lore, which characters he is going to work with?
slow goblet
Widow, Sombra and Doomfish is the most likely trio. I’m really hopeful for Sombra, at least, since they’re apparently bffs and I wanna hear those sweet BFF interactions
devout sable
@hasty surge he's from Haiti
not Cuba
and yeah, the comp is most likely to be Doomfist, Widowmaker, Sombra, Baptiste
teal meadow
Man, i hope for a trailer today or tomorrow
worthy rose
I Got a theory on how the arcade mission ending is gonna look like.
It's the crew. with some talon reinforcements. the reinforcements are ordered to execute innocent and overwatch opeartives on the mission location. baptiste watches and thinks to himself. on if he has joined the right team or not.
teal meadow
that would be too dark
worthy rose
It's what would have ticked baptiste's brain into knowing. he's on the wrong side.
worthy rose
What if. gabriel reyes secretly hated jack for taking his spotlight
despite ''gabe was more than happy to keep the spotlight off him''
lapis oracle
I think that Reyes would be more than glad to keep the spotlight off him, not for jealousy/hating reasons but that his actions and covert ops got less attention
chilly peak
but it's not secret
we know he hated Jack for very long time
all we know that she's Echo, ex-Overwatch member, somehow important for reactivated Overwatch. Too mysterious character to really talk about her
devout sable
@chilly peak not really
he had no quarrel with Jack up until Retribution
it's only then that they began to drift apart
chilly peak
"The UN rewarded Morrison for his contributions by making him Overwatch's first official commander. Reyes was passed over in the process, and it created a rift between the two men"
"According to Overwatch's former agents, this outcome was inevitable. "After Morrison's promotion to strike commander, his relationship with Reyes changed," Dr. Angela Ziegler, medical director of Overwatch, stated during a UN committee hearing. "The tension became more pronounced as time went on. I tried to mend things. We all did. Sometimes when the closest bonds break, all you can do is pray you stay out of the cross fire.""
worthy rose
I Mean. if reyes was happy to be irrelevant. why would he make a revolt from the inside of ow. and shoot his very own. battle buddy. best friend jack morrison?
hard leaf
The reason the game gives doesn't really make that much sense, seeing as they were close friends, something as simple as a promotion really shouldn' t have driven them apart.
regal coyote
@chilly peak we know it is wrong and only atlasnews article
so they are news agency and is wrong in universe
from our blizz loremasters we know Gabe is actually happy to not be a heroic figurhead type of commander, and prefer to work in the shadows
WIAT why dont we focus on Havana
I mean it seems a clanker is trying to erase HUMAN erritage
someone has to breack this piece of rustbucket and put it back into its place
valid shell
@worthy rose Your period key is broken.
peak escarp
@chilly peak Those quotes come from an older pre-release article, so they may have been retconned
but also, they like to play with unreliable narrators - Mercy wasn't part of the inner circle, so from her outside perspective, she might have thought that Gabe was angry at being passed over, but from other sources we know he wasn't.
main pilot
chilly peak
@peak escarp we can't just say "oh this is old so it probably is retconned". It's canon until Blizz says so. But @regal coyote what you're saying is interesting. What Blizz loremasters? You mean someone from Blizz?
Yea, he maybe was angry at first, but after some time he felt reliefe that he's not strike commander
regal coyote
more ike the other source is an accurate source
the article is afterall an in-universe publication
peak escarp
And a lot of our fans have assumed "oh, that's why Reyes and Morrison hate each other," and the story that we're developing is actually, like--no, these guys loved each other--like--they're like, best war buddies. And in a lot of ways, Reyes was relieved that Morrison had to have the more political role, and like, he was like kind of--it's always easier being the number two guy because you're not ultimately accountable for all that, Reyes was kind of, you know, in some ways thankful and relieved, um, and weirdly, we're gonna show how that relationship actually was Morrison's downfall because for so long, Morrison would actually defend Reyes's questionable actions.
peak escarp
let me put it another way: the public thinks Reyes and Morrison hated each other, because that's what was reported
but we know the truth
regal coyote
damn Dr6 you fast! :3
clever silo
Reyes does hate Morrison now though, or at least really wants to kill him.
regal coyote
so di jack hating reyes
chilly peak
And now I remember. I have read that Jeff's explonation in the past
regal coyote
but remember, this hatred between these two is partly cause they blame each oterrh for ow being fucked up
so in the end i dont think either of them blow up the swiss base
a third party did
peak escarp
don't you know? I'm the Lore Warlord, I have everything bookmarked
clever silo
altight
regal coyote
and i think my lore is fast =.=
well youa re a gunslinger afterall
i am just a bombing rodent
knowing who that 3rd paty is
it is important
since obviously reys and jack dont know
peak escarp
I wonder if we'll get any extra material this year, like the audio logs from last year
Jack suspects it's Talon
regal coyote
and it is unlikely sombra
peak escarp
but if it is Talon, they haven't told Reaper
regal coyote
not doomfist's style either i think
regal coyote
it can be a fractionof talon yes
that is why i say unlikely doomfist
even though we know doomie have contact to outside world
vialli maybe yes
or max
to assume max should be around long
not sanjay, he seem young for that
though it does fit sanjay's style
chilly peak
be ready guys. As we know, Blizzard shows us new legendary skins like everyday before event. Yesterday's teaser was at 16:00 (UTC +0)
so we might see first skin in like 10 minutes
frosty shell
It's possible they both know who blew up the Swiss base but don't know who started the fight
peak escarp
they won't show skins until they've announced the event
frosty shell
They could easily be referring to that
chilly peak
ok so they will announce it today;p
peak escarp
if they do daily skin reveals, they'll start after the Dev Update (which will likely be tomorrow, since they like doing things on Tuesdays)
regal coyote
@peak escarp they showed one hint picture of a NEW MAP
so i dont think new stuff today
maybe later
if new skin it would be bapts skin first
since we know it will be him
consider it is Havana
chilly peak
what lore skins do you would like to see?
clever silo
Young McCree and Ashe
regal coyote
not this evvent
clever silo
Why not this event?
hard leaf
More Blackwatch stuff.
clever silo
We got Mei last year
peak escarp
Talon Baptiste
Young Ashe
Young McCree
ALF Roadhog
Egyptian Sniper Ana
clever silo
And Winston
peak escarp
and a lore skin for Junkrat and Zenyatta, but I don't know what they would get
regal coyote
i feel like they will do an archive on maccree/ashe so they may save ti for that
peak escarp
since they don't have any lore-related skins
chilly peak
Hog and Junk pre-omnium explosion would be weird ^^
clever silo
Junk was born after the explosion
chilly peak
Pig without a mask
peak escarp
Junk wouldn't really be pre-explosion
peak escarp
but just something relating to his background
I suppose Hayseed is, since he wore that costume in The Plan
peak escarp
also I want an SEP skin for Soldier
clever silo
^
peak escarp
to go with Soldier 24
clever silo
I was trying to think of how to phrase that
But couldn’t think of what it was called
peak escarp
we have crisis-era skins for Reaper, Torbjorn and Reinhardt, we just need Soldier and Ana
regal coyote
thing is
crisis era ana is a bit different in ability
enough to be different character even
clever silo
Doesn’t particularly matter
regal coyote
she is high mobility sniper
peak escarp
yes, but she can still get a skin that looks how she did back then
regal coyote
with a whip hook and flying drones
peak escarp
that doesn't affect her abilities at all
clever silo
We have SEP Reyes
frosty shell
I do kind of not want it to be revealed what Roadhog's face looks/looked like
regal coyote
true
peak escarp
pretty sure he didn't
frosty shell
Horus is probably Crisis-era Ana but with a few inaccuracies
regal coyote
tre
jack would nto ahve access to his weapon in SEP
maybe the run but that is all
clever silo
Why wouldn’t he have access to his weapon?
regal coyote
jacks weapon is stolen prototype he acquired after he goes S76
chilly peak
I think we should ignore abilities when we speculate skins. To some extend
clever silo
He has a weapon as Strike Commander
peak escarp
Soldier uses a Pulse Rifle, which is a prototype weapon built by Overwatch and confiscated when Overwatch was shut down
regal coyote
it is like saying a WWII soldier carrying a M249
clever silo
He has a gun in his Strike Commander skin
regal coyote
yes that gun is probably what he had
clever silo
In the Uprising flashback, he has his black ops 76 gun.
regal coyote
but in lore it is most likely normal ammo
clever silo
Reyes didn’t have his special ammo in SEP, but he still uses the same effects in game.
peak escarp
Mercy, Tracer, Winston, Genji strike team
frosty shell
hmmmph
peak escarp
not a Talon mission after all
frosty shell
So it seems that the theory the the Doomfist expedition took place after the HQ explosion is false
regal coyote
yeah
frosty shell
However, the Doomfist capture is clearly in Singapore
regal coyote
this is STRANGE
clever silo
Can you give me a rundown of it someone?
regal coyote
cause the first hint we get is a Havana map view
peak escarp
this mission isn't the Doomfist capture
clever silo
I don’t have headphones and I’m in public
regal coyote
2nd one is this OW strike team list
white cobalt
regal coyote
yes
frosty shell
ok
regal coyote
so we get to see maxipad finally yes
white cobalt
oh teko linked first, my bad
peak escarp
I'm gonna transcribe it, hang on
regal coyote
voice is ana
frosty shell
I assume they must've failed given that Maximillien is still on the loose, unless he was acquitted
regal coyote
most likely he got off clean
regal coyote
in this case
peak escarp
also, we have Jack's agent number
regal coyote
does this happen after retribution then
frosty shell
Do we? that seems to be a low-level number
river mason
So it’s not gonna be widowmaker, Moira, doomfist like we thought.
It’s overwatch not Talon
peak escarp
wait
frosty shell
that might be Sojourn's number
regal coyote
does it say Agent 10 or Agent ID
frosty shell
I remember the post about the different kinds of agent IDs
frosty shell
What if Sojourn is Canadian? 🇨🇦 ?
regal coyote
funny, do we even have ana's voice?
young one
so we assume this agent 10 is femle, intel department, a sort of commnder
regal coyote
oh riiight
young ana vocie, along with young gabe
i though it was agent ID at first also
regal coyote
yes it si agent id
peak escarp
Genji is also a 2000 number
regal coyote
so we have another unknown agent then
river mason
So is genji gonna look like that for this upcoming mission?
limpid agate
We know before the fall, Genji and Tracer had their normal outfits
And this event is after Reinhardt's retirement
So he could be upgraded
peak escarp
that makes sense, if Genji is on this mission
worthy rose
who is the one talking
limpid agate
"Sojourn"
worthy rose
anyone knows who is the voice actress?
limpid agate
No
frosty shell
i don't think we know the VAs for most NPCs do we?
frosty shell
ok
peak escarp
seems like we were right about "anonymous financial group" being Talon/Maximilien
dense estuary
Talon money has to come from somewhere
seems about right that a financial group could run a bunch of clean front businesses
runic prairie
Sojourn, huh....
dense estuary
but eventually the dollars, euros, "credits", whatever have to converge somewhere.
novel basin
who is the voice that is talking on the new thing they released on twitter?
runic prairie
Now to go through the video frame by frame and make sure there’s no hidden messages etc...woot
peak escarp
the voice is Sojourn, a new character
runic prairie
Sojourn, we dont know anything else.
dense estuary
that could be anybody, agent, AI or even an informant.
novel basin
how can you discorver her name?
peak escarp
Commander Morrison, I have a proposal. We're going at catching Doomfist the wrong way. He's clean, but his accountant Maximilien? Follow the money, and you'll find the dirt you need. I know you're worried about sending the strike team out again after what happened with Reinhardt, but I've been working with them and I know they're ready. I'm putting Tracer in charge, with Mercy, Winston and Genji in support. She's grown as a leader since the King's Row mission, and I know you'll agree. Call me back when you get this. And Commander - trust me. They'll get it done. Sojourn out.
someone wanted a transcript
runic prairie
Tracer mercy winston and genji, interesting combo
She’s grown as a leader, so this is confirmed to take place after kings row.
peak escarp
so this event happens after King's Row but before the HQ explosion
novel basin
in the doomfist trailer
runic prairie
Mhm
peak escarp
which could put it in the same year as either
runic prairie
So we might get more info on max
novel basin
and about the image?
peak escarp
it's before the Doomfist trailer as well
novel basin
what do we know?
runic prairie
Did we ever have a confirmed voice for max? Cause we might get one now
frosty shell
Max's voice has never been heard as far as I know
runic prairie
Thats what i thought
novel basin
Cuba braces for hurricane fernand and in the internet the only thing that I could found was a Hypotetical hurricane
peak escarp
comparing this file to one from Retribution
it's the same number, so it's Genji's file
runic prairie
We may get another decryption, its too far away from the event
white cobalt
Huh, im curious about why she mentioned Reinhardt
frosty shell
I wouldn't be surprised if someone just forgot to change the agent number
novel basin
in the newest one its says error maybe someone deleted all files or hacked them (sombra)
runic prairie
No, they do almost everything with a purpose
peak escarp
Sombra has an interaction with Brigitte where she hints that something happened with Reinhardt that forced him to retire
it's probably the same thing Sojourn mentions here
white cobalt
And isnt the Reinhardt thing mentioned in Bastet
frosty shell
I wonder if he caused collateral damage or something like that
shell path
The reinhardt thing was actually mentioned in the Brigitte stuff wasn't it
Where Torbjorn lost an arm
And Rein sustained heavy injury
And for making it out alive he let Rein pick his daughters name
novel basin
maybe in white doom rein retired cause of an injury
worthy rose
Which might be why Torb isn't in the strike team this time.
This is right after operation white dome
shell path
Probably. He's likely developing his prosthetic arm
novel basin
or he just met bastion
shell path
Meeting Bastion happens Wayyyyy later
peak escarp
you're thinking of Operation White Dome, which was before Brigitte was born
Reinhardt retired after the King's Row Uprising
shell path
Overwatch is still up and running in this mission
regal coyote
now from what we see despite the roast both ana and jack like rein
worthy rose
Oh yeah, the timelines don't match
runic prairie
Obviously an injury
regal coyote
nah
worthy rose
They do match, but this is probably one of the last missions before overwatch shut down
if i had to guess
runic prairie
Torn muscle might’ve done it
worthy rose
this is before genji, tracer, and winston officially brought doomfist in
regal coyote
receeding hairline
novel basin
Mercy wasnt in doomfist trailer
worthy rose
she wasn't
but this voice talks about bringing doomfist in, in another way
meaning he's not yet in prison
runic prairie
Admittingly, im sad we dont have talon mission
worthy rose
and we know this takes place in overwatch's last year
runic prairie
I wanted more lore on talon
worthy rose
so putting one to one together we get just before doomfist goes to jail
shell path
youll get a talon mission when a talon tank is added to the game
shell path
thats because blackwatch dont suck
peak escarp
R: Recall
-5: Petras act passed, Overwatch shut down
-6: Swiss HQ explosion, Jack and Gabe assumed killed; Doomfist captured
-7: King's Row Uprising; "Storm Rising" mission
-8: the Venice Incident (Retribution)
runic prairie
How about we dont attack others for stating facts thanks
quasi siren
Widowmaker, sombra and doomfist would be all over making it hard for baptise to heal them
peak escarp
those last couple of years of Overwatch are getting pretty busy
runic prairie
(Not u doc)
shell path
no one is being attacked
runic prairie
Anyways
peak escarp
@runic prairie this will give us more lore on Talon
runic prairie
Yeah the last couple years are
peak escarp
they're going after Maximilien