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worthy rose
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There's always conflict going on

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There's wars going on today that we often forget about

regal coyote
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but on inflattion, it is probably something even chu did not think about

peak escarp
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the omnic crisis did end, but a second crisis is emerging in Russia

worthy rose
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but that doesn't mean Earth is experiencing WWIII right now

regal coyote
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YET

tired pewter
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Didn't junkrat work for Oaisis? What made him lose it

peak escarp
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no

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why would he work for Oasis?

regal coyote
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actually, why CAN he work for oasis?

iron plume
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if you mean the Minister of Engineering voiceline, he's basically just daydreaming

worthy rose
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How is Junkrat even related to Oasis?

regal coyote
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no kidding

peak escarp
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just like his "King Jameson Fawkes the First!" line from King's Row

iron plume
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also regarding inflation, there's actually a hint to the value of money on hollywood

regal coyote
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remember this, rat is a loonloon, dont trust what he says too much

tired pewter
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I thought he was actually a scientist there xd

iron plume
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with cinema popcorn being like several mil

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but that might be a joke

regal coyote
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but is that a joke or a real thing?

iron plume
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i mean it's definitely a joke, but it may or may not be just a joke

tired pewter
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@iron plumeprobably just a dev lul

peak escarp
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that could just be an exaggeration of movie concession prices

tired pewter
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^

peak escarp
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which are already pretty stupid

tired pewter
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Popcorn at my local cinema 18 is like $9

regal coyote
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yeah those are probably joke on movie theater food prices where they are out to rob you

tired pewter
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Haha, I say sneak your own

regal coyote
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why?

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i always sneak

worthy rose
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I mean it's in Hollywood

tired pewter
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I kept a tub, I just walk in with it and pretend I took a smoke

regal coyote
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get a big enough baggy clothing

peak escarp
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as someone who works at a movie theatre, please don't

worthy rose
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seeing a movie in Hollywood is like going to Disneyland instead of a local amusement park

regal coyote
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they may look at your bag, but a pad down would be the last thing they would do

worthy rose
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but for srs, please don't

tired pewter
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It's okay I don't throw it away there @peak escarp

worthy rose
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Movie theatres don't profit off the movies

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And if you're nice, the theatre cashiers tend to find any way to give you a discount

iron plume
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it is a joke but they may well roll with it and say a tub of popcorn is legit several million now because of some crash or whatever

worthy rose
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I got nearly $10 off my $30 purchase because I was nice to a guy

tired pewter
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With that logic the bounty on road hog would only be like $30 or 40

iron plume
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point is we don't really know the value of money in owuniverse

regal coyote
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but if several million is a popcorn price then junkrats heist is nothing

tired pewter
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^

iron plume
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hog's bounty isn't in usd is it

tired pewter
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And gold has almost no value

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It is @iron plume

worthy rose
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yeah but what if Australian money is worth a lot

tired pewter
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The sign has the $

worthy rose
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gold barely has any value if everyone has guns made of it

iron plume
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$ stands for a lot of currencies

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gold guns are definitely not canon

tired pewter
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Kek

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Are you sure about that UwU

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LOL a solid gold zarya proton cannon

regal coyote
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well gold color anything can be cheap

tired pewter
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That thing weighs like 40 pounds

regal coyote
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it is just paint fgs

iron plume
tired pewter
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It's in pesos, oh dear

frosty shell
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Yen inflation hasn't happened on Hanamura

iron plume
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maybe peso got real strong

frosty shell
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from what I heard

iron plume
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I don't think we'll get too deep on economics in ow universe tbh

frosty shell
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Or maybe the peso was redefined again

worthy rose
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@iron plume just a joke my dude

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who in their right mind would use a gold gun

regal coyote
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it would be gold plated

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it is not improbable

iron plume
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a few too many second and third world oligarchs

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but then you did say right mind

regal coyote
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gold cannot be used to mke real weapon that is functional, but plating it is certainly viable and ok

peak escarp
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a solid gold gun would be too heavy to lift with one hand and too soft to function as a gun

worthy rose
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^

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A little plating is one thing, but the guns shown in the client are a bit much

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Especially those MEKA cannons?

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That'd be an omnic snack.

regal coyote
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srsly i dont think color matters against omnic

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hence they can be all rainbow colord with theeir meka

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omnic have multiple senses detection

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so stealth against them is not easy to start with, mind as well dont it seems

worthy rose
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I wonder if dazzle camouflage could work against them?

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At least for the giant squid omnic

iron plume
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they don't rely on sight

worthy rose
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Use it to throw off long range sensors and sneak up on it during its recovery time

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dazzle camouflage isn't for sight

iron plume
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it is

worthy rose
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Unlike other forms of camouflage, the intention of dazzle is not to conceal but to make it difficult to estimate a target's range, speed, and heading. Norman Wilkinson explained in 1919 that he had intended dazzle primarily to mislead the enemy about a ship's course and so to take up a poor firing position.[a]

tired pewter
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Does Mako ever take his mask off in the comics

iron plume
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"not concealing" isn't the same thing as "not for sight"

worthy rose
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Fair enough

tired pewter
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Or is it required because of all the nukes that went off trying to blow up the omnics

worthy rose
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but I wonder if it'd be a viable tactic

iron plume
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it's to make the ship harder to determine distance, speed, size, etc from sight

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you know what beats that camo, a radar

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I presume omnics have those

peak escarp
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. . . . so that's the origin of razzle dazzle

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huh

worthy rose
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lol

regal coyote
worthy rose
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you're right

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radar rendered that tactic obsolete

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whoopsie daisy

regal coyote
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to dazzle camo geomatric shapes are used against visual detection

tired pewter
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Ew. A 38. 1911 style pistol

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What a travesty

regal coyote
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colorful paint like mka do not have that function

tired pewter
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Dazzle camo is so outdated though

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Radar reflectors would be alot more ethical than that

worthy rose
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You know what could work?

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Get a friendly, giant omnic mecha

regal coyote
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dont think ethical is anything to do with it

worthy rose
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Make it fight the squid omnic outside Korea

regal coyote
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none exist

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not that we know of

peak escarp
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Svyatogors are the closest thing

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but they're piloted mechs

regal coyote
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basically thsoe are mechs

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the other one is the that rogue giant robot thing in torb's comic, pilot by a rogue engineer with the same name as that disney reindeer in that annoyign frozen cartoon

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forgot name suddenly

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also mech tech is probably quite widely used against omnic at one form or another

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i mean we know even a rat has it

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russians have them, koreans have them, even junkers have them

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and yes russians ahve smaller ones too with beam aber and shield

worthy rose
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annoying
one of the most successful movies

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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but for serious, I'd like to see a giant robot battle

odd herald
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icy dms now

limpid agate
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@regal coyote

the other one is the that rogue giant robot thing in torb's comic

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Sven's Titan

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Its not an omnic, its a mech.

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It is the same design as the Titan omnics.

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With some upgrades of course.

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But like Volskaya's mechs, it is just a piloted vehicle.

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But mech tech was 100% used in omnic or drone form. We have 2 examples of this in our 4 examples of mechs

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Junkers and Svyatogors were always piloted (mostly because their inventors hate robots)

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MEKA and Titans were formerly automatons

shell onyx
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Did Hammond build his own mech or did the scientists build it or did he borrow / receive the suit from someone?

mint yoke
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he mostly build it if im correct

worthy rose
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^

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He built the original pod to survive a landing from space, then refitted it after landing.

mint yoke
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One strong as Hamster

shell onyx
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Does it say how he got spare parts?

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Bot fights?

dawn halo
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@shell onyx He could go scavenging in the Outback in his spare time.

shell onyx
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true

dawn halo
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And probably go around an actual junkyard and steal crap if he had to.

worthy rose
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So peeps said God Programs aren't a big part of the lore outside Anubis, but what exactly could reactivate the omnics and give them the same goal at the same time in a coordinated crisis?

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Any hints on whose pulling the strings?

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Even friendly omnics won't tell people so it's pretty suspect

limpid agate
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There are 2 things that are interesting to note.

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Or 3 rather

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1 - Overwatch recently shut down the "Anubis Project"
2 - The Omnic Crisis and why it started is a mystery in universe
3 - The only Omniums currently waging war on humanity are specifically the only two Overwatch didn't shut down.

worthy rose
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Russia and South Korea, right?

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Maybe Junky has the key

dawn halo
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Yes.

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And no to your second.

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Specifically, Russia's more continious, due to it being on land and able to hurt people more often, meaning something like a more traditional military campaign.

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Korea otherwise, is episodic, as there is a long period between major attacks, with occasional incursions by squid Gwisin and probably aquatic types, with intense periods with the Kaiju ones with the capacity for adaptation.

worthy rose
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And how are humans part of the iris?

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Iris is a Greek god, right?

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And we got Anubis. Wonder if there's a connection?

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Maybe omnics like our mythology and adopt it

limpid agate
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"Iris" is a greek god. It's also a part of the eye.

worthy rose
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Like that one greek myth about the statue aphrodite brought to life

dawn halo
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To me, the Iris is specifically a subject of faith that humans can believe in, but only Omnics, especially those like Zenyatta are able to manifest in it.

worthy rose
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Ah

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Thank you

dawn halo
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However I do believe they used a Greek god's name as the true Omnicode name is complex for humans to understand, and symbolism as well.

limpid agate
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The Iris is the subject of Shambali faith, and any association to the literal meaning of the word thusfar has been to anatomy rather than Egyptian mythology.

worthy rose
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Alrighty

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Seems a bit weird they use human anatomy for their religion

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Their eyes are just dots

limpid agate
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A Camera also has an iris

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Its also known as the aperature

peak escarp
dawn halo
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The Shambali revolve around omnics and humans in harmony, just like the omnics on this channel, so it makes sense for them to reference human anatomy.

worthy rose
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Huh, actually didnt know that @limpid agate

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Cool

dawn halo
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And about who caused the Omnic Crisis, I possibly think one of the God Programs, perhaps the strongest one initiated it. But my theory is due to the dissolution of the Omnica Corporation, the creator of the omnics wants to avenge his creations and set around the path of total extinction of humans to prove a point.

worthy rose
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Seems a bit far fetched

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But not impossible

dawn halo
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What's far fetched?

worthy rose
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Reminds me of Horizon Zero Dawn

frosty shell
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I don't think it was ever said that Overwatch didn't shut down the Omnium in Korea, or anything mentioning Overwatch and the East China Sea omnium together

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Also, Michael Chu pretty much said that Anubis was the only true "God Program" in spite of what the comic says

peak escarp
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you have to remember the context of "god programs"

worthy rose
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What if there's a backdoor failsafe to eliminate all Omnics?

frosty shell
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@worthy rose That could be the case

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I had a theory that Junkrat's treasure is such a failsafe

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He just doesn't have the means to activate it himself

peak escarp
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it came from an internal monologue - Pharah was describing what someone else had told her about the AI programs Overwatch shut down after the crisis

limpid agate
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@dawn halo I would say that, with the pieces we were told in recent times

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God Programs had nothing to do with the crisis

frosty shell
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And "after the crisis" is pretty vague

peak escarp
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the quotation marks around "god programs" tells me that that's what she has been told they are

frosty shell
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We know now that Anubis was shut down at least a decade after the Crisis

limpid agate
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Sure, Mission Statement has that vague comment

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BUT

worthy rose
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So who made God Programs? What's the point of them?

limpid agate
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Let's stop saying plural

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And just say Anubis

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For simplicity sake

worthy rose
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Why introduce the concept if it's just a one off villain

limpid agate
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And to prevent confusion or assumption

frosty shell
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We know Anubis's quarantine had a severe impact on Egypt

worthy rose
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A single God program could restart the crisis

frosty shell
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So Anubis might've had a civilian usage

worthy rose
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That's bloody horrifying

limpid agate
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  • Mission Statement indicates Overwatch quarantined Anubis post-crisis.
  • Uprising indicates that there was a Cairo incident ~8 years ago.
  • Bastet indicates the "Anubis Project" was shut down by Overwatch.
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I would say with these parameters

worthy rose
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Oooh

frosty shell
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@worthy rose I doubt that a program like Anubis could restart a crisis worldwide

worthy rose
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Was it intended as a countermeasure to omnics?

limpid agate
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Maybe.

frosty shell
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We only know of its ability to affect Omnics in the surrounding area

worthy rose
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@frosty shell just for one region

frosty shell
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Yeah, it might

worthy rose
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Take over a production center

frosty shell
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That might be easier said than done

worthy rose
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Maybe one restarted the Russian one?

peak escarp
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if Anubis could start a global crisis on its own, it would have done so when it broke containment

dawn halo
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And Anubis did not.

worthy rose
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Regional, not global

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Like Russia and South Korea currently

frosty shell
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It is possible that some external force might've restarted the Russian omnium; we don't know

limpid agate
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My speculation with what we know is:

  • Anubis had NOTHING to do with starting the crisis
  • Anubis was made by Egypt as a defence against Omnics
  • Anubis backfired
  • Overwatch came in, but solved the problem poorly and fucked up Cairo even more than Anubis already was
  • There were other projects (IE God Programs plural) in the works that never saw the light of day like Anubis did.
worthy rose
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True

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It could bide it's time like the Korean one

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These things are smart

peak escarp
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that makes sense, Jewvia

worthy rose
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It does

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I can buy it

dawn halo
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And the force that actually started the crisis must have known how to control god programs to do his, her, or it's bidding, AKA: Omnic Crisis.

frosty shell
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The "other god programs never saw the light of day" makes a lot of sense

limpid agate
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The Anubis Project being singled out by Ana means that it was major, while God Programs plural by Pharah means that there were others that got quarantined. Even incomplete, you can still quarantine the half finished project.

frosty shell
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My theory is that the East China Sea omnium was built as a backup during the Crisis in the event that an omnium would be destroyed

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And Overwatch never found out about it

dawn halo
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Or the East China Sea omnium used to be above ground and upper levels used to be for lighter omnics it produced.

limpid agate
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Also, with my speculation on the Cairo incident being Anubis... That would mean that the Iris is not related to Egypt or God Programs at all since it is 20 years old

worthy rose
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What if the omnic crisis was purposely started to facilitate technological progress to prepare for a greater threat?

dawn halo
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Before Overwatch or another military forced bombarded it under the sea.

frosty shell
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Hmm, maybe that could be the case that the ECS omnium relocated

peak escarp
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the Iris is 20 years old? or do you mean that Anubis is 20 years old

frosty shell
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I assume "the Iris is 20 years old" is because Zen is

peak escarp
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we don't know when the Shambali formed their religion (aside from the vague "Years ago, following the Omnic Crisis.")

dawn halo
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@frosty shell Going to add on, the ECS omnium was larger than before, until it was bombarded and sustained heavy damage, before moving into the sea in a different location to avoid detection.

frosty shell
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Yeah, that's possible

peak escarp
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we also don't know if Zen was among the original group of omnics that formed the Shambali, or if he joined after they had already formed

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Zen's bio is 5 paragraphs and only 2 of them are actually about Zen

dawn halo
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And that's why Korea occasionally the the problems relating to the Gwisin instead of constantly, because the original omnium's size was large enough to produce numerous heavy/Kaiju types they use to cause extensive damage and it being heavily damaged and sized reduced, the omnium can only produce a fraction of the Gwisin in present day than before.

worthy rose
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I thought the mecha omnic was the same one, but adapts after each battle

peak escarp
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it was originally one massive omnic, but Shooting Star introduced the idea of additional gwishin

dawn halo
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The additional Gwisin was probably to harass the other parts of the ROK's {South Korea's} armed forces, that's why the South Korean military uses MEKA, to deal with the main threat {Kaiju} while the other parts of the military hold back the more numerous Gwisin.

worthy rose
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I can buy that

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I'm sure there's only one big one

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Also where are the omniums getting all this metal

dawn halo
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Offshore mining.

worthy rose
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And why do they keep fighting humans?

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Can't someone send an omnic ambassador already

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Or maybe they know about Australia?

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And that's why they're pissed

peak escarp
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why does anyone fight wars?

frosty shell
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I always thought the mega-omnic WAS the Omnium

worthy rose
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So many reasons...

limpid agate
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Same.

peak escarp
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was that ever said?

frosty shell
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I don't think it was ever said, but it makes sense

peak escarp
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DVa's bio just says: "Twenty years ago, South Korea was attacked by a colossal omnic monstrosity that rose from the depths of the East China Sea."

worthy rose
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Religion, resources, fear, discrimination, controlling government, territory

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Hard to tell what the omnics want

frosty shell
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The colossal omnic monstrosity produces the other smaller omnics

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It would explain why those little squid things came so fast

worthy rose
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Wait, when did Australia blow up?

dawn halo
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The ALF blew it up.

worthy rose
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Was it before or after South Korea went to war?

frosty shell
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We don't know

peak escarp
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so maybe the omnium was partially destroyed, and the massive omnic took the manufacturing parts of the omnium and integrated them into itself

worthy rose
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@dawn halo i know, timeline question

peak escarp
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as part of its adaptations

frosty shell
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@peak escarp That would make sense

worthy rose
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Australia would teach it that being mobile is necessary

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So it adapted

peak escarp
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the Australian omnium was destroyed in that same vague "after the crisis"

frosty shell
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The Omnium itself being able to move would explain how Overwatch missed it

worthy rose
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Damn

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How old is Junkrat?

peak escarp
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25

worthy rose
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He was a child when Australia blew up, right?

peak escarp
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probably

worthy rose
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So MAYBE South korea and australia omniums are related

peak escarp
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it doesn't say

dawn halo
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That's why MEKA wasn't able to destroy it, one of it's innate adaptation was it's powerful defense, however the Kaiju gets tired and has to retreat, explaining the stalemates between it and MEKA.

worthy rose
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It needs help

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An ally to win

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Forcing South Korea to seek outside aid

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An elite team, even

dawn halo
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To pull an analogy, the Kaiju is like Beerus--powerful, but requires excessive amounts of rest.

worthy rose
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I want to see it in battle

peak escarp
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I think the gwishin retreats because it's smart - once it realizes it can't win against MEKA, it retreats to adapt and try again

dawn halo
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@peak escarp Perhaps we can merge our theory on the Gwisin, it's smart enough to retreat once it's tired out enough for MEKA to get the upper hand.

worthy rose
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Knowing it'll lose the endurance round

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With enough health to retreat safely

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Plllllllus the energy required just to move, let alone fight

dawn halo
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And D.Va's squad (I'm going to say the Korean Power Rangers for simplicity's sake.) has occasionally battled the Gwisin, as it's logical for MEKA, or the South Korean Army, to have more squadrons of mechs around.

worthy rose
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Recharging would be necessary

dawn halo
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How does it recharge? The ocean is an answer.

peak escarp
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tidal energy

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clean energy

worthy rose
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Geo or solar

dawn halo
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Tidal energy still means ocean.

peak escarp
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I know, just reiterating

worthy rose
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Maybe it eats krill

dawn halo
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Don't kill the whales by overkrilling their food...

worthy rose
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Do omnics eat

dawn halo
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Possibly, but not necessary.

worthy rose
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Hm

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What if... someone is piloting the South Korean omnic and controls the omnium?

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Either/or

peak escarp
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seems unlikely

dawn halo
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Unlikely, because it's impossible to find the ECS omnium without special technology, let alone the materials to control it by human hands.

worthy rose
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Someone found it before it activated, and has the tools to control it

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Omnics can be hacked, and omniums were designed by humans

peak escarp
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we already have an omnium/omnics that are in collusion with humans

worthy rose
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And?

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What do you mean? Are you saying a second is a storytelling copout or what? ThinkingSombra

peak escarp
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yes

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also there's no evidence for it

worthy rose
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True

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I did pull that out of my ass

peak escarp
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we already have confirmation for that situation with the Siberian omnium

dawn halo
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Omniums are large, and it'll be impossible to take one over with one person with tools.

worthy rose
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Why is it impossible?

dawn halo
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Each omnium is unique, the Australian one is unique, the Detroit one is unique, the ECS is unique, the Siberian one is unique, there could be different requirements to take a different omnium over, there isn't one tool fits all with omniums.

worthy rose
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Who said one tool fits all?

limpid agate
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Who said they were unique

worthy rose
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I just said one omnium, one tool

peak escarp
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the only one we've seen is the Australian omnium, and we only see what's left of it

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we have never seen a functioning omnium

worthy rose
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That'd be a cool mission thooo

peak escarp
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there is some concept art, but it shouldn't be considered canon

worthy rose
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Can you imagine a mission or even a map in a functioning one?

peak escarp
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for all we know they could be identical

worthy rose
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What if omnics have a secret terrorist society like Talon

peak escarp
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they did have Null Sector

worthy rose
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Yup

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Edgy omnics

peak escarp
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unknown if there are any remnants of that

regal coyote
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well, in a way you can say each omnium is unique, in the sense that each should have an AI (or cluster of AI, however it is)

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So each is an unique entity

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Physically though, they may or amy not be similar.

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Though since it is suggested omnium can sorta learn things just like a sentient, it is likely that their products would change overtime to say the least

worthy rose
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what if genji had a chrowhatever accelerator

peak escarp
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it wouldn't do anything for him

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he doesn't have chronal disassociation

worthy rose
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He's shitposting

gray pulsar
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anyone realize that ever since black panther movie came out doomfist pickrate has increased approximately 43%?

worthy rose
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i was just about to mention that @gray pulsar

gray pulsar
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its strange and interesting.

worthy rose
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also lucios pick rate has gone up 37

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most people are using that "toads" comp now.

gray pulsar
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even winston has been seeing increased playtime.

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Ugh.. toads. What clowns.

worthy rose
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yeah toads is annoying.

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ive been seeing it a lot

peak escarp
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none of this is relevant to the lore

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!!loreonly

twilit nacelleBOT
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This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

worthy rose
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:RicardoFlick:

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@peak escarp they're shitposting about an imaginary comp I believe

peak escarp
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I know

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I can tell when people are shitposting

worthy rose
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fuck im stupid

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i didnt know they were trolling

valid shell
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@worthy rose ?

shell onyx
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Would it be possible to get the Australian omnium working again?

dawn halo
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Radiation is shit, look at the fallout effects of nuclear weapons, but magnify the radiation.

peak escarp
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considering it's basically gutted and turned into a city, I'd say no

dawn halo
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Was Junkertown from the structual remains of the omnium?

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Nevermind, I found out.

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It was.

shell onyx
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Yeah

dawn halo
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The radiation probably died down enough for humans to be in there without suits, or perhaps there was a "radiation free pocket" that was the area encompassed by the former omnium that was used to build Junkertown.

peak escarp
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the people there are still pretty irradiated

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look at Junkrat and Roadhog

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but it's at non-lethal "safe" levels

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just enough to make them weird

dawn halo
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And insane, and cruel, just like everything in 🇦🇺.

shell onyx
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I mean roadhog has a gas mask that would probably keep the radiation out

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Junkrat seems crazier than Roadhog

dawn halo
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Australia in general is dangerous, look at the fauna, most will wanna kill you or don't but can.

worthy rose
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@shell onyx gas mask doesnt protect you from radiation...

peak escarp
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Roadhog's canisters are filled with anti-radiation medicine

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called Hogdrogen

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(this sounds like a shitpost but I swear it isn't)

worthy rose
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I know you know

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I guess I was arguing semantics

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But it still isn't healthy

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Roadhog is in terrible health

limpid agate
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!!wiki Hogdrogen

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Bot seems to be slow so

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Overwatch Wiki

Hogdrogen is a yellow pressurized chemical mixture that counteracts the effects of radiation exposure on those who inhale it. It is usually seen contained in stout yellow inhaler cans that are compatible with some gas mask filters. In Junkertown, empty cans can be found for s...

supple bear
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What the hell ever happened to tracers origin story?

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did blizzard take it down or something

limpid agate
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It never went up

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It was live only

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Like Roadtrip

supple bear
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So it was a one time thing?

limpid agate
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Yes

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Someone recorded it and reuploaded it

peak escarp
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it's posted on Youtube, just not on the official Blizzard channel

supple bear
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I see

cunning mantle
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Amazon Kindle has a bunch of free Overwatch Origin stories graphic novels

regal coyote
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it is free online, and most animated

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What I was wondering is that the mentioned Thief in Paris, will they be mentioned with mroe lore. I mean the one wwith the pigs mentioning them in the voiceline

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Also, it is still cool if it is not playable, but you get to hear stories of them more and more.

limpid agate
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the mentioned Thief in Paris

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@regal coyote Who?

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Also what do you mean by "the pigs". Be more specific rather than using ambigious slang

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I don't remember Roadhog mentioning anyone.

gentle token
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@regal coyote Are you reffering to those shown in the police station?

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Since we're talking about the Paris map, in terms of the thieves, and there is a police station, I'm assuming "pigs" is referring to the police

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But I don't remember any voicelines, unless some play in the station that I missed

limpid agate
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I don't remember there being anyone noteable

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Just misc chatter

gentle token
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Same, more background noise rather than full on talking

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Also, I'm guessing that the next Archives mission, the one coming up, will be set in Paris. Unless they pull a new one out like they did last year. Ofc they might extend it etc etc. But if that's so, maybe more about the "thieves" will be revealed in Archives. Paris is a hotbed for Omnic Propoganda and revolution so it would fit perfectly

iron plume
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the revolution is brewing up in current times

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archives are in the past

gentle token
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Yes, but it is possible an event in the past is what lead to the current revolution. Similar to Kings Row how uprising took place there and even now Omnics are treated like a lower class

limpid agate
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I've been saying since the map came out

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I think it has no chance for Archives.

gentle token
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It is much smaller than the previous maps

limpid agate
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What you are describing is not an interesting new scenario to look into either. Its literally just Uprising 2.

peak escarp
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it's actually the largest map

gentle token
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And I apologize, I only just today joined this channel ;-;

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Very true

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Just throwing ideas out, sorry

limpid agate
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Many people are expecting a Talon based event in the past, based on the pool of heroes who have not yet been in archives events yet.

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Widow, Doomfist, Sombra, and Baptiste fills out a team.

gentle token
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I'm expecting that too tbh

peak escarp
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everyone assumes they won't repeat heroes

gentle token
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I really do hope Sombra is an option

limpid agate
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The setting is also anticipated to be Havana, based on an update to Numbani, but it can still be anywhere.

gentle token
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I'm just really curious what the mission will be. I've seen some "kidnap the brainwashed Widow" but idk about that

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Ooh, Havana would be great

limpid agate
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Kidnap Widow makes no sense.

gentle token
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And that's where Bap is from yes?

limpid agate
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No.

iron plume
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no

peak escarp
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Baptiste is from Haiti

iron plume
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Havana is in Cuba, Bap is from Haiti

gentle token
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Ah

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sorry

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my bad

iron plume
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but he could've been posted there in his Caribbean Coalition time or something like that

limpid agate
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It's fine.

peak escarp
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Haiti and Cuba are neighbours though

iron plume
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he may well have the connection

gentle token
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I need to catch up on the lore, so I apologize if I make some mistakes

limpid agate
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As long as you are interested, and willing to learn from your mistakes, no worries.

gentle token
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Thank you!

regal coyote
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With the updates from the travel agencies on the airport, we WILL get something on Havana

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that said, we do not know if it would be a full map, or a small vs map ting or just a storyplot

gentle token
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So, potentially archives, but if not perhaps something else in the future

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I can see it being tied to Baptiste

sage axle
gentle token
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@regal coyote who were the theives and pigs you were talking about earlier btw

worthy rose
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NYA

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OwO

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0w0

regal coyote
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Suspect repéré dans la librairie Carpentier : « Vote*» omniaque féminin d’1m60. Suspect detected at Carpentier bookstore : « Vote » female omnic 5"3 ft tall.

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@gentle token

limpid agate
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Weird that the trailer ends on "No second chances"

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Considering that's his entire character

iron plume
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yeah

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both character and gameplay theme

regal coyote
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@limpid agate i think it means "you only live once"

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(no not doing the harshtag)

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though technically in his case

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You only live twice
Or so it seems
One life for yourself
And one for your dreams

limpid agate
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Either waybits contradictory to his character

iron plume
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yep. bit of a strange note

dawn halo
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How did Baptise desert Talon?
I hope it isn't in an impressionistic way, because a character I created coincidentally have the same aspects of a backstory as Baptise.

peak escarp
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what do you mean, how?

dawn halo
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Yeah, how Bap was able to get out of a Talon base without orders from his higher ups.

peak escarp
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it's not like Talon agents are on house arrest when not on missions

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they have lives

dawn halo
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But theres the problem, if he doesn't show up to do stuff, some people will get suspicious.

peak escarp
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and? he wouldn't be there

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that's the whole point of defecting

dawn halo
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Perhaps the Caribbean Coalition assisted Bap in defecting and hiding his tracks from Talon until they stop searching.

peak escarp
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did you read the Cuerva report?

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that was them searching for him

dawn halo
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He could have gone off the grid for a prolonged period, with assistance from the Caribbean Coalition.

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Woops, I'm on the wrong footing, but he could have gone off the grid for a prolonged period.

limpid agate
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Going based off a competent different story

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When a job comes up, you get a phone call and like, 20 minutes to comply

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Get in the car, they bring you to the jet, and fly you across the country

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And by not complying, you're an enemy of the state

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Though that was a government agent thing, not a terrorist organization

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But Id imagine a similar practice is evoked if they do get to live outside the bunker

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TLDR: Skipping work = Deserting

dawn halo
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Actually, what role is Bap going to have in the story? To dive deeper into how Talon functions?

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Possibly another pawn in a larger game...

iron plume
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well he's the first one to leave

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I still say he might be joining new overwatch

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possibly after either he comes to their aid during an attack or vice versa

dawn halo
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He might, but from some connotations with Haitian history, he probably values his independence above all else, so I can't see him joining as a full member.

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But assisting Overwatch, I see it within his character to do so.

iron plume
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I get the feeling that with new overwatch no one will really have it as a full time thing

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it's definitely less organized

shell onyx
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It seems less of an organization and more of just a team

iron plume
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it is

dawn halo
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It might change once more people reach Winston, because once it's large enough, organization helps the leader(s) out.

iron plume
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it may be possible

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but even if it's wider I don't think everyone is devoting themselves to it fully

dawn halo
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How was Winston and Tracer able to hide themselves from the world once the UN condemns them coming back?

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Not on missions, but in between one mission to another.

tired pewter
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Did reaper successfully get the data from the network?

peak escarp
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yes

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some of it

tired pewter
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Do we know why reaper hunts down OW or is it as simple as he feels like he was cheated out of the commander position

karmic juniper
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he thinks ow has the large bad

dawn halo
#

I think the partial database Reaper has mostly is weaker Overwatch agents, only a few of those really matter to take out.

tired pewter
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Angsty boy

limpid agate
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@tired pewter He doesnt care about the commander position

tired pewter
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Then why? For the luls?

peak escarp
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we don't know why

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it's one of the bigger mysteries in the lore

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why Reyes turned on Overwatch, why the omnics woke back up and waged war on humanity . . .

#

And a lot of our fans have assumed "oh, that's why Reyes and Morrison hate each other," and the story that we're developing is actually, like--no, these guys loved each other--like--they're like, best war buddies. And in a lot of ways, Reyes was relieved that Morrison had to have the more political role, and like, he was like kind of--it's always easier being the number two guy because you're not ultimately accountable for all that, Reyes was kind of, you know, in some ways thankful and relieved, um, and weirdly, we're gonna show how that relationship actually was Morrison's downfall because for so long, Morrison would actually defend Reyes's questionable actions.

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Reyes was happy to not be in charge

shell onyx
#

It almost seems like Reyes wanted to do something questionable again and after so many times of saying yes Morrison said no for once and something brewed between them. It does say that Morrison defended Reye's actions "for so long"

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Like Morrison maybe wouldn't approve the action but wouldn't be against it

peak escarp
#

that was the case during Retribution

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Morrison said he couldn't officially sanction Reyes going after Antonio, but he wasn't against it either

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it led to Blackwatch being exposed and eventually led to Overwatch being outlawed entirely

lofty island
#

Soldier 76 is gay apparently? That's new to me

supple bear
#

yes he is

#

What is the electricity that sparks from Winston's eyes when he goes into Primal Rage?

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And why do his eyes turn orange?

tired pewter
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Peanut butter induced corona

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Of uncontrollable energy

slow goblet
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I’m gonna guess it’s a side effect of the genetic modification? Or idk, aesthetic choices the devs didn’t think too hard about because I can’t really think of a reason why you’d want the gorilla to shoot lightning out of its eyes when it’s angry

limpid agate
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@supple bear An aesthetic design by the team that made the Exhibit short.

supple bear
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It also occurs in Recall tho, not just in the Exhibit one

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I assume the reasoning was still the same tho

peak escarp
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it happens in Recall because it happened in the Exhibit

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because the artists made that choice in 2014

supple bear
#

Is that cinematic formally called the Exhibit?
Or are we just using that cuz it's easier to refer to that cinematic?

peak escarp
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it's officially called the Cinematic Trailer

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but that's a lot to type

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we just call it the Exhibit or the Museum

supple bear
#

k

dawn halo
#

MEKA must have some pretty advanced mech replacement capabilities if a mech has to self destruct, and in lore, is the self destruct a lot more destructive?

peak escarp
#

watch Shooting Star

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DVa has to overload the fusion core to self destruct her mech

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it's not a standard feature, and it was probably expensive (both in time and money) to replace

dawn halo
#

I have watched Shooting Star, but if it was used on downtown Busan, or any other city, would it cause much destruction once it explodes?

peak escarp
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probably

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explosions are generally destructive

dawn halo
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I see the self destruct having in between the energy equivalent of a MOAB (~11 tons) and one kiloton.

sonic sable
#

i guess it would depend. but she blew her mech over the ocean pretty far from the city so that might've aided in the city not being affected

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realistically dva would've died in that short, if not from the fall into the sea, from the shrapnel or sheer impact of the explosion

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things in the canon lore are generally much different than in game, just in general

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devs have said that themselves

timid eagle
#

Makes me wonder how Lucio’s skates work, among other things.

dense estuary
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Maybe her flight suit has inertial dampers. 😉

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Lucio skates are an absolute mystery. They clearly provide rollerblading like movement but can also for short times adhere to walls.

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of course lack of outside of gameplay lucio stuff means we have yet to see his skates or sound tech for that matter operate in "lore mode" really.

tired pewter
#

11 megaton explosion, completely unscathed by standing behind a car or wall

iron plume
#

realistically a lot of people would die from things that happen to them in overwatch

jagged scarab
#

With lucios skates it could be using sound tech still, maybe a echo effect where the bounce back becomes it's own pull?

dense estuary
#

Overwatch does generally follow comic book physics even in its lorebits

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but it is meant to be kinda like a super hero setting

hasty surge
#

I think the archives event would probably utilise the Paris map

tired pewter
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Maybe

regal coyote
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@jagged scarab The glow skates is not a Lucio unque thing, it is a more common feature than you think. Hell they even have a lucioball league in universe

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for anyone else, do not dwell too much or artistic effect. They are ment to be artistic rather than realistic, like the eye glow of wisnton when he goes SSG or vairous effect lines when people attack.

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@worthy rose cool but wrong channel to post, post in general or overwatch, dont foul up this place

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on MEKA explosion, it is not a standard feature but a glitch where hana +friendzoneboi made use of.

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so yeah Hana totally pwn that omnic by glitching

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also yes the explosion is not that powerful in term of nuclear explosion but it is enough to kill the omnic. More like if it were that powerful Hana would be like korean fried chicken being within pistol range

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Also due to the plotarmor Hana wear she is able to come out with only minor damage like a broken leg.

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Most likely that pilot suit offer great protection .

vale horizon
#

his eyes turn orange because he activates peanut butter power

tired pewter
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^

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Can confirm

limpid agate
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@vale horizon Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

odd dagger
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  • shitposts *
limpid agate
#

@odd dagger Final warning

odd dagger
#

try me

limpid agate
#

Moving swiftly onwards

regal coyote
plain cradle
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If I knew what it said I would have a better opinion @regal coyote

regal coyote
plain cradle
#

Oh yeah well I am sure that's gonna happen eventually

peak escarp
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seems real, but the dates are later than expected

regal coyote
#

more interested in the background of the foreign language one

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you see finger of moira on it

plain cradle
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Isn't that a window?

regal coyote
#

but it is retributin map and room again

peak escarp
#

it's just the background from Retribution

regal coyote
#

why though

peak escarp
regal coyote
#

at least be something new?

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or did they not change background yet

peak escarp
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because they haven't made the new one yet

regal coyote
#

okay

plain cradle
#

OH

regal coyote
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thought they just gonna repeat retribution again, that would suck

plain cradle
#

I thought you meant the window was someones finger hahahaha

peak escarp
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they are going to repeat Retribution and Uprising

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an give us something new

plain cradle
#

well hopefully they give us something new

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yeah

peak escarp
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like they did last year

regal coyote
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well retribution and uprising is a default, but what is new :3

runic prairie
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We do not know what lore event we will be getting this year yet. As the event is a little under a month out.

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However people are banking on Masquerade, or a Talon mission. Based on (what i think is fake) a leak that shows Baptiste, Sombra, Moira, and Doomfist. (I think)

peak escarp
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it's a fake

runic prairie
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I figured.

peak escarp
#

but a Talon mission is still possible

runic prairie
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Yeah im hoping for Masquerade.

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I've been hoping for 2 years, but that sombra skin would be awesome. Plus maybe canonical voices for characters like Maximilian

iron plume
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The likely lineup if it’s a talon mission is Widow, Baptiste, Sombra and Doomfist

runic prairie
#

As Moira has already been in a mission, Retribution that is likely

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Still got fingers crossed for Masquerade.

iron plume
#

It’s more that she was still in overwatch at that time

runic prairie
#

No one can stop me from that

iron plume
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even if she was a double agent, she wouldn’t risk showing herself

runic prairie
#

For the sake of science? We dont know how far she would go

#

Crying out loud, she tested on herself. She could have been playing both sides.

iron plume
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she’s dedicated but she’s not dumb

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going on a talon combat mission would’ve exposed her

runic prairie
#

shrug you never know

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Perhaps she'll be like Reaper was during the London mission

iron plume
#

her being a double agent back then is also kind of shaky in the first place

runic prairie
#

Giving advice covertly

iron plume
#

that’s a possibility

runic prairie
#

Reaper wasnt covert, but his voice was there.

iron plume
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but I doubt her as playable hero

runic prairie
#

"I don't have much time. But >insert some mission details< good luck."

vale horizon
#

lmao ok

frosty shell
#

As for how D. Va survived the fall into the sea, I have no idea, but her suit probably did protect against shrapnel

#

I wonder if she thought she was going to make it out alive or not\

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Medical tech in Overwatch is a lot better, so that might've helped

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I also wonder if D. Va's suit can offer buoyancy?

worthy rose
#

I wouldn't be surprised, considering that these mechs are supposed to fight over water.

frosty shell
#

The helicopter that picked her up probably arrived pretty soon after, so that probably would've helped her survive

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When it cuts away, it looks like D. Va is about to do a back flop, which would seem like the worst option

regal coyote
#

Widow, Baptiste, Sombra and Doomfist would be hard on the timeline

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there is only a small timeframe for that to be happening

worthy rose
#

Not really

peak escarp
#

couldn't be more than 7 years ago

iron plume
#

it doesn't have to be wide
archives so far are 7 and 8, and it could be around that time

peak escarp
#

but could be right up to present day

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Baptiste only defected recently

worthy rose
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Either the period between Gerard's death and DF's capture, or fairly recently between DF's escape and Baptiste's leaving

regal coyote
#

think about it, this requires: 1) doomie to be successor of the fist but not imprisoned yet, 2) widow to be brainwashed and trained, after retribution by far, Bapt joined, leveled to importance, but not yet run away

peak escarp
#

so 6-7 years ago

regal coyote
#

yes

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only that tiem frame

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before doomfist imprisonment

worthy rose
#

Not yet run away isn't a problem, we know that's fairly recent

regal coyote
#

so probably after ana got yeeted

worthy rose
#

Basically around the time of Retribution.

regal coyote
#

no way after retribution

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since kidnap of widow is after that

worthy rose
#

Right

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Wait, wasn't Gerard's death before Retribution?

peak escarp
#

no

regal coyote
#

adjusted for other things, it would be most likely after ana's clash with widow (first time widow is revealed in an anti ow mission)

peak escarp
#

he was still alive during Retribution

#

he was killed some time between Retribution and Uprising

regal coyote
#

gerard is inhospital but he fine, he even interorgate gabe after retribution mission

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and doomie arrested after uprising

worthy rose
#

So after Retribution but before Uprising.

#

Sure, it's a fairly narrow time period, but it almost certainly exists.

regal coyote
#

Widow, Baptiste, Sombra and Doomfist can happen after uprising

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just has to be before doomfist got penal

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actually if we go by ana being removed it must be after uprising

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so a time when ow starts breaking up big time

worthy rose
#

Why does Ana need to be gone?

#

This could be an early mission testing widow

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Maybe the reason she got OW's attention.

peak escarp
#

Widowmaker had been active before her encounter with Ana

regal coyote
#

ok then

#

it can be before ana

#

but only a little bit before

#

seeing that this is a piece of news/info

#

so probably no more than a couple months old at best?

peak escarp
#

so between 7 years ago (around the time of Uprising) to about 5-6 years ago (before Doomfist gets captured)

regal coyote
#

yes

#

a small window of 1-2 year as said

peak escarp
#

that's not that small

regal coyote
#

what things do we know that would have happened in that timeframe

peak escarp
#

not much

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I think the Swiss HQ explosion happens before Doomfist is captured (because otherwise Jack and Gabe would have been on that mission)

regal coyote
#

wont bt that yet

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or it would be a HUGE event of the year

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with lots of hype

#

contrary to talon there can be another mission idea with winston

#

makes sense also

peak escarp
#

if they don't care about repeating heroes, it could be Genji's mission to dismantle the Shimada clan

#

that happens around then

worthy rose
#

Winston was a researcher

#

I don't think they would send him on a mission unless it was really urgent.

regal coyote
#

mercy was a researcher
I don't think they would send her on a mission unless it was really urgent.

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^ right?

peak escarp
#

Mercy was a researcher and a combat medic

#

Winston was just a researcher

regal coyote
#

my point is that many of these heros have multiple roles

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plus we dont know much about winston during his ow days really

#

we only have a few photos

peak escarp
#

we've only seen him in a lab

worthy rose
#

Do you think these stories deserve a movie?

regal coyote
#

yes

peak escarp
#

so it's a safe assumption that he's just a researcher

worthy rose
#

How about a movie about the rise of overwatch. The story can consist of the re-activation of the omnic factories by an unknown person with torbjorn's blueprints and towards the end will be the end of the war

peak escarp
#

that would be great

worthy rose
#

IKR

peak escarp
#

but probably wouldn't happen until the story has developed more

worthy rose
#

Or blizzard gets enough money

regal coyote
#

@worthy rose that would be a triology though

worthy rose
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@regal coyote Nah , just the one

regal coyote
#

animated feature we hope

worthy rose
#

yeah

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still would cost alot

frosty shell
#

Winston was on the mission to take down Doomfist

worthy rose
#

yes

regal coyote
#

cause we really dont want it to be like DBZ movie or Avatar movie... where the director should be dragged in the middle of the street and get death by ligma

plain cradle
#

I think there is more than enough lore to make a movie IMO

worthy rose
#

yeah

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or maybe too much

regal coyote
#

that why i say 2-3 movie

worthy rose
#

yeah

regal coyote
#

activation of omnic war to be one, ends up omnic marching towards everything

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the war would be 2nd

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and ow formation would be end of 3rd

peak escarp
#

if the focus is on Overwatch, it wouldn't make sense to show all the war before they formed

regal coyote
#

but if focus is on the jack-gabe-ana trio it would make sense

peak escarp
#

I think it would just be a couple of scenes, showing each of the OW members's involvement in the war, then bring them together in the middle and have them end the war by the end of the movie

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no need for a trilogy

regal coyote
#

then it would be cramped

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just to explain what omnium is, and why it reactivates it would be a huge part think about it

peak escarp
#

if you want a trilogy, have the first movie be the Omnic Crisis, second movie be Golden Age Overwatch, third movie be the Fall of Overwatch

regal coyote
#

ou cant say the whole thing in 5 minutes

peak escarp
#

sure you can

#

plenty of movies start off with worldbuilding exposition

worthy rose
#

lol

regal coyote
#

this would be more cramped than the Gunnm movie

#

or as you would call Battleangel Alita

peak escarp
#

hell, do what Star Wars does and do it in text

frosty shell
#

Also, most heroes wouldn't appear in just the Crisis

#

A modern-day movie would work the best

regal coyote
#

actually i rather see it as a nexflix series

peak escarp
#

I'm also picturing this movie to be 2.5-3 hours long

regal coyote
#

that way you get more lore and it is cheaper

peak escarp
#

my imagination is ambitious

regal coyote
#

netflix series aint bad either

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more lore, ambitious

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and the key moment can be a movie

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and since it is a series you can do offbeat episodes, and some darker theme episodes

peak escarp
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a series would be better

regal coyote
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like "Paris: Being Omnic"

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or things like "Omnium History X"

peak escarp
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and that's basically what we're getting, just very slowly

pastel steppe
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I want a a Netflix series with junk rat and road hog trying to find the secret treasure

regal coyote
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too specific

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but as a series there can be junker episodes yes

peak escarp
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Junkrat already has his treasure

regal coyote
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i think he means an episode of how junkrat got his treasure

peak escarp
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he found it before he met Roadhog

regal coyote
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or how junrat and hog retrieve it

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we know he hide it somewhere

pastel steppe
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Yeah sorry I meant episode

peak escarp
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it might not even be a physical treasure

pastel steppe
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Because all I remember was they said he found it in an omnium or whatever

peak escarp
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Junkrat's bio just says he found a secret in the bones of the omnium

regal coyote
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bottom

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and it is probably big

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so he has to hide it somewhere

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i mean big as in physical size

peak escarp
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it does't have to be big

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it doesn't have to be a tangible object

regal coyote
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Now og god, a "Cairo: being Humn" would be a great episode, showing how ow mess up destroying cairo's most likely omnic controlling system

frosty shell
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I have my theory that it was an Omnic failsafe that Junkrat needs someone else's help to activatee

peak escarp
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it could just be knowledge

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He came to notoriety when he discovered an extremely valuable secret in the bones of the omnium. Though few knew the nature of what he found, he was nonetheless pursued by bounty hunters, gangs, and opportunists wherever he went, until he made a deal with the Junker enforcer Roadhog, who grudgingly agreed to be his personal bodyguard in exchange for a fifty-fifty share of the spoils.

frosty shell
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In the future, I assume I will see many of my headcanons wrecked by lore

peak escarp
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probably

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I get around that by not having headcanons

frosty shell
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General Myung was actually already in my headcanon, though

regal coyote
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would be nice if she get one of her eyeball clawed out by a cat

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whatever it is, just take out one of her eyes plz

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Yes, codename Fury

peak escarp
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why

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this is not the place to discuss your Marvel crossover AU

regal coyote
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just think it would be a cool direction/modo for her design

peak escarp
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we don't even know what she looks like

regal coyote
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she is a background character msotly anyways, not to be playable, just like most of other people

peak escarp
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missing eyes are cliche and overdone

regal coyote
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so a bit more generic but iconic idea on her would be nice

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like either Fury, or M, etc

valid shell
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...So you want her eye...to get clawed out by a cat?

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Like, a housecat?

regal coyote
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something you see and already have the idea of how she might be

valid shell
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Tf is this meme.

peak escarp
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she should look like a military commander, because she is a military commander

regal coyote
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that would be too boring also.

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too faceless

valid shell
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Military tend to be faceless, homie.

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Uniformity.

regal coyote
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you still want her to have a face (not like a pcture but soem uniqueness on her)

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but uniformity makes for shit character

peak escarp
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she's not an important character

valid shell
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Actual soldiers don't have anime eyepatches and Naruto headbands they wear in unique ways.

regal coyote
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hence in many series there is a uniqueness to the characters

peak escarp
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she doesn't have to look unique

regal coyote
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allso east asian countries tend to have traditionally more leway when it coems to commander class above/or certain aces

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basically a bit more customization

peak escarp
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I expect her to look something like

regal coyote
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not too unique, but not faceless

peak escarp
regal coyote
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add a scar, an eyepatch, or some cyborg part, something different

peak escarp
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(except Korean instead of Japanese)

regal coyote
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so you can see "oh that one"

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super boring look for story

valid shell
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"Something different"

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When half the cast already has scars, eyepatches, and cyborg parts?

regal coyote
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even japanese t series would not use this as a named character

valid shell
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Please do not get a job at Blizzard.

peak escarp
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she's not an important character

regal coyote
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even not important characcter like other meka pilot ahe some uniqueness in design

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obviously not as much as dva but it is there

peak escarp
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we'll probably never see her

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she is that unimportant to the story

regal coyote
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that is fine also

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i am happy with her as a voice also

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but yes an episode on the meka is nice also

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also, remember by doing something like that, it is opening up potential to sell merch

cunning mantle
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I think it would be epic reat if the movie included some epic clips of OWL players in a fight.

cedar yacht
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@peak escarp you are always on here lol

peak escarp
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yes

cedar yacht
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Also what do we know about Zarya

peak escarp
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she was born in a remote Siberian village that was devastated by the omnic crisis

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she became a world champion weight lifter but on the eve of the championships (Olympics?) a new crisis broke out so she abandoned her dreams to defend her homeland

worthy rose
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Then Infiltration and Searching happened

cedar yacht
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How heavy is the particle cannon?

worthy rose
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A lot

cedar yacht
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And how does grav work

worthy rose
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We don't know

cedar yacht
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Like from a realistic perspective

peak escarp
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she went into weightlifting so she would have the strength to defend her country

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I don't think the exact specifics of Graviton will ever be explained

cedar yacht
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In rl it would be THE most powerful ability period

worthy rose
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Probably

cedar yacht
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Or maybe trans

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In the middle of the battlefield

worthy rose
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Of course, there are in-universe limits so that it can't be classified as a superweapon or destroy the earth

cedar yacht
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Or hook 1.0

valid shell
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You're saying a meat hook on a chain would be more powerful than a rocket launcher irl.

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You seem confused.

worthy rose
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To be fair, hook 1.0 was basically "teleport the person you're looking at to the business end of your gun"

peak escarp
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gameplay isn't lore

worthy rose
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Yes

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We need to find a new subject

fossil isle
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HMm Zarya carrying her heavy particle cannon with her on a search and assassinate mission hmm

worthy rose
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It is her primary advantage against some rando with a gun

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The ability to block bullets is worth the unwieldy weapon.

cloud shard
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@cedar yacht Grav uses gravitons which are theoretical particles that alter gravity, effectively creating a black hole but not really, hence the name Graviton Surge 😃

tawny patio
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“even not important characcter like other meka pilot ahe some uniqueness in design”

Well...MEKA isn’t exactly traditional military either though

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I don’t recall all of their histories, but two of them were Starcraft players...standard uniform doesn’t exactly fit

peak escarp
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we've seen the MEKA pilot's uniforms

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Captain Myung is not a MEKA pilot

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she's a captain in the Korean army

tawny patio
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Right? I’m saying that a more formal uniform would make more sense from a non-meka

frosty shell
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We also know that Zarya's gun is powered by a "Toblestein Reactor"

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Which is a joke on how her ult sounds but it is canon according to Efi's to-do list

cloud shard
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Well from Zaryas Tobelstein Reactor spray and back at the gun it looks like that is the source of the gravitons given the floating energy ball that its producing, hes primary is probably just some standard in universe energy beam technology but maybe her secondary uses the gravitons to form the ball shape

ebon solar
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So zarya's ult isn't a black hole?

cloud shard
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Not really I guess its just a bunch of sucky suck particles

peak escarp
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it's like a gravity well

wicked robin
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200 pounds

peak escarp
dense crow
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add another gay hero

cedar yacht
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What does the thing zarya says when she ults mean?

valid shell
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@dense crow You sure? Not a transgender hero? Or bisexual? Or asexual?

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Just wanna triple down on gay, eh.

cedar yacht
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The 'i'm going for the torbnesty'

wicked robin
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Yeah

valid shell
limpid agate
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@cedar yacht Огонь по готовности.

dense crow
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zenyeeta is an attack helicopter

wicked robin
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Tornbestu is a ancient relic

valid shell
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Shitposting will result in loss of access.

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@dense crow @wicked robin Stop.

wicked robin
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I’m sorry?

valid shell
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You're forgiven.

dense crow
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sorry

wicked robin
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Can I ask what I did

valid shell
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Please explain, "Tornbestu is a ancient relic".

wicked robin
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Oh yeah

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Okay now I get it I’m sorry

normal copper
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lmao i always thought it was "I'm going forget torbnasteen" which makes no sense whatsoever

peak escarp
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Ogon' po gotovnosti

cloud shard
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Its the russian translation of "fire at will"

dawn halo
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What's is the heaviest thing Zarya can possibly lift?

hidden verge
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Well, based on her tattoo we know her dead lift weight is 522 kilos,

peak escarp
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her record is 512 kg

hidden verge
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Dang, ten off

peak escarp
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but that's the extreme maximum

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her comfortable lifting weight is probably much lower

hidden verge
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And it’s just a dead lift, that works back grip and legs, so for her too hold something like the particle cannon it works arms a lot more

cloud shard
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Well her cannon was ripped off of a tank so it has to be pretty weighty

limpid agate
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Off a vehicle

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And its less than 500kg

dawn halo
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512 kilos is pretty damn high, as that's slightly over half a tonne if you know SI units.

worthy rose
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If Talon is known to be trying to cause tension between omnics and humanity, wouldn't that cause them to unite against Talon?

dawn halo
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Talon is an organized group, so they could cover up their tracks, bribe and/or blackmail the media to not report the incidents and not conduct investigations about Talon.

worthy rose
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So hence the Recall

supple bear
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Is Mei still walking around in Antarctica?

peak escarp
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no

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she met up with Winston then went to Asia to investigate abandoned research stations in the Himalayas

jade temple
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sounds fun

limpid agate
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She also went to North America

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!!loreText

twilit nacelleBOT
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Travel Guides:
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Paris: https://bit.ly/2GEyOoq

limpid agate
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Mei's Adventure

muted fog
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very detailed journal

regal coyote
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If i remember right though Blizz follows the misheard and actually name parts "torbnasteen" :3

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as for zarya's weapon weight, we do not knwo but it has to be heavy

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though I would suspect her armor does work to protect her from injury when she is lifting that thing

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funny she do not have a harness on the weapon to help her medigate some of its load

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but then again zarya is known to be powerful brave and practical, but not big on covert and subtlity

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(and no she cannot be gay, for practival reasons due to stupid russia)

iron plume
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"Torbelstein", and yes it was made as a reference to the misheard voice line.
There's likely some armor on her, but the shields come from the gun
She doesn't have a harness because it's not built to be wielded by humans
What does her being gay have to do with anything

regal coyote
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well it is easy to add a harness onto the weapon really since it is a customized thing anwyays

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service crew can surely make something like that with little effort

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as for the gay comment it was to the guy above claiming on that topic (if they ban tracer comic they surely be too neanderthal to allow zarya to be anything but cis straight, or ow might get banned in russia, i mean ow the game rl)

supple bear
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Where does it mention Mei meeting Winston in Mei's Adventures?

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It mentions Winston suggesting the journal idea, but does that mean she actually met him?

balmy fog
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Would the lore discussion be the place to talk about the new archives event or....

iron plume
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if it's about the story aspect of it, yes

peak escarp
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@supple bear it would be kinda hard for Winston to suggest the journal if she hadn't contacted him

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also the way she says "yes, that Mei!" makes me think it's been a while and the story of her miraculous survival has gone public and she's a little bit famous

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(DVa even has a line in-game about reading her journals)

regal coyote
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she would have contacted winston

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though not sure if physically or not

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not that it matters

supple bear
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It doesn’t really matter, but then how did she get out of Antarctica

timid eagle
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My guess is she went to the nearest port and sailed out. That, or she had an active signal opened on a free channel in the hopes that someone will pick it up.

regal coyote
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there are other bases and ports in antartica

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hell there is a town in antartica in the warm months that is quite booming currently

worn solar
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Does the Overwatch universe have long-distance teleportation yet

reef thicket
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dont think so

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if so wouldnt we see ALOT more of it xd

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short distance teleporters are a thing though obviously seen with sym

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also i wanted to ask does the OW universe have the same weapons as we do irl? like ak47s, ar15's etc

worn solar
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I can’t see Vishkar being too willing to share their teleporting technology though

hidden verge
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Hey, does anybody know Baptist’s nationally? They added Paris only a little bit before he was added and his name is French, so I though he was French, but he sounds African in his voice lines and origin story so I’m not sure

limpid agate
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He's from Haiti

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Which is in the Carribbean

twilit nacelleBOT
hidden verge
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Ooooooooh, that makes sense with his hammock spray

reef thicket
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cant wait till he gets interaction with other heroes

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like sombra doomfist moira reaper etc

final latch
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where can i find the comic ?

cunning mantle
iron plume
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!!loreComics

twilit nacelleBOT
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Yeti Hunt: http://bit.ly/2kB2jdY

iron plume
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there

neon urchin
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give that a listen when y'all have the chance

timid eagle
#

They played that music during the intervals of OWL, right? I thought it was a remix of the Alive theme from Widowmaker’s short?

iron plume
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weren't you already warned about this

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ty mods

wicked robin
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!!lorecomics

iron plume
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Yeah that doesn't work without a role

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but all the lore link lists are in the pins

wicked robin
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oh thanks

reef thicket
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theres a comment in this video of the talon theme song with uh

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timestamps for each member of talon

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fits quite well tbf

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oh wait

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its Slignerd

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LOL