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but on inflattion, it is probably something even chu did not think about
the omnic crisis did end, but a second crisis is emerging in Russia
but that doesn't mean Earth is experiencing WWIII right now
YET
Didn't junkrat work for Oaisis? What made him lose it
actually, why CAN he work for oasis?
if you mean the Minister of Engineering voiceline, he's basically just daydreaming
How is Junkrat even related to Oasis?
no kidding
just like his "King Jameson Fawkes the First!" line from King's Row
also regarding inflation, there's actually a hint to the value of money on hollywood
remember this, rat is a loonloon, dont trust what he says too much
I thought he was actually a scientist there xd
but is that a joke or a real thing?
i mean it's definitely a joke, but it may or may not be just a joke
@iron plumeprobably just a dev lul
that could just be an exaggeration of movie concession prices
^
which are already pretty stupid
Popcorn at my local cinema 18 is like $9
yeah those are probably joke on movie theater food prices where they are out to rob you
Haha, I say sneak your own
I mean it's in Hollywood
I kept a tub, I just walk in with it and pretend I took a smoke
get a big enough baggy clothing
as someone who works at a movie theatre, please don't
seeing a movie in Hollywood is like going to Disneyland instead of a local amusement park
they may look at your bag, but a pad down would be the last thing they would do
but for srs, please don't
It's okay I don't throw it away there @peak escarp
Movie theatres don't profit off the movies
And if you're nice, the theatre cashiers tend to find any way to give you a discount
it is a joke but they may well roll with it and say a tub of popcorn is legit several million now because of some crash or whatever
I got nearly $10 off my $30 purchase because I was nice to a guy
With that logic the bounty on road hog would only be like $30 or 40
point is we don't really know the value of money in owuniverse
but if several million is a popcorn price then junkrats heist is nothing
^
hog's bounty isn't in usd is it
yeah but what if Australian money is worth a lot
The sign has the $
gold barely has any value if everyone has guns made of it
well gold color anything can be cheap
That thing weighs like 40 pounds
it is just paint fgs
It's in pesos, oh dear
Yen inflation hasn't happened on Hanamura
maybe peso got real strong
from what I heard
I don't think we'll get too deep on economics in ow universe tbh
Or maybe the peso was redefined again
gold cannot be used to mke real weapon that is functional, but plating it is certainly viable and ok
a solid gold gun would be too heavy to lift with one hand and too soft to function as a gun
^
A little plating is one thing, but the guns shown in the client are a bit much
Especially those MEKA cannons?
That'd be an omnic snack.
srsly i dont think color matters against omnic
hence they can be all rainbow colord with theeir meka
omnic have multiple senses detection
so stealth against them is not easy to start with, mind as well dont it seems
I wonder if dazzle camouflage could work against them?
At least for the giant squid omnic
they don't rely on sight
Use it to throw off long range sensors and sneak up on it during its recovery time
dazzle camouflage isn't for sight
it is
Unlike other forms of camouflage, the intention of dazzle is not to conceal but to make it difficult to estimate a target's range, speed, and heading. Norman Wilkinson explained in 1919 that he had intended dazzle primarily to mislead the enemy about a ship's course and so to take up a poor firing position.[a]
Does Mako ever take his mask off in the comics
"not concealing" isn't the same thing as "not for sight"
Fair enough
Or is it required because of all the nukes that went off trying to blow up the omnics
but I wonder if it'd be a viable tactic
it's to make the ship harder to determine distance, speed, size, etc from sight
you know what beats that camo, a radar
I presume omnics have those
lol
on gold plated guns, they exist. but in game golden guns are not canon
to dazzle camo geomatric shapes are used against visual detection
Dazzle camo is so outdated though
Radar reflectors would be alot more ethical than that
dont think ethical is anything to do with it
Make it fight the squid omnic outside Korea
basically thsoe are mechs
the other one is the that rogue giant robot thing in torb's comic, pilot by a rogue engineer with the same name as that disney reindeer in that annoyign frozen cartoon
forgot name suddenly
also mech tech is probably quite widely used against omnic at one form or another
i mean we know even a rat has it
russians have them, koreans have them, even junkers have them
and yes russians ahve smaller ones too with beam aber and shield
annoying
one of the most successful movies
¯_(ツ)_/¯
but for serious, I'd like to see a giant robot battle
icy dms now
@regal coyote
the other one is the that rogue giant robot thing in torb's comic
Sven's Titan
Its not an omnic, its a mech.
It is the same design as the Titan omnics.
With some upgrades of course.
But like Volskaya's mechs, it is just a piloted vehicle.
But mech tech was 100% used in omnic or drone form. We have 2 examples of this in our 4 examples of mechs
Junkers and Svyatogors were always piloted (mostly because their inventors hate robots)
MEKA and Titans were formerly automatons
Did Hammond build his own mech or did the scientists build it or did he borrow / receive the suit from someone?
he mostly build it if im correct
^
He built the original pod to survive a landing from space, then refitted it after landing.
One strong as Hamster
@shell onyx He could go scavenging in the Outback in his spare time.
true
And probably go around an actual junkyard and steal crap if he had to.
So peeps said God Programs aren't a big part of the lore outside Anubis, but what exactly could reactivate the omnics and give them the same goal at the same time in a coordinated crisis?
Any hints on whose pulling the strings?
Even friendly omnics won't tell people so it's pretty suspect
There are 2 things that are interesting to note.
Or 3 rather
1 - Overwatch recently shut down the "Anubis Project"
2 - The Omnic Crisis and why it started is a mystery in universe
3 - The only Omniums currently waging war on humanity are specifically the only two Overwatch didn't shut down.
Yes.
And no to your second.
Specifically, Russia's more continious, due to it being on land and able to hurt people more often, meaning something like a more traditional military campaign.
Korea otherwise, is episodic, as there is a long period between major attacks, with occasional incursions by squid Gwisin and probably aquatic types, with intense periods with the Kaiju ones with the capacity for adaptation.
And how are humans part of the iris?
Iris is a Greek god, right?
And we got Anubis. Wonder if there's a connection?
Maybe omnics like our mythology and adopt it
"Iris" is a greek god. It's also a part of the eye.
Like that one greek myth about the statue aphrodite brought to life
To me, the Iris is specifically a subject of faith that humans can believe in, but only Omnics, especially those like Zenyatta are able to manifest in it.
However I do believe they used a Greek god's name as the true Omnicode name is complex for humans to understand, and symbolism as well.
The Iris is the subject of Shambali faith, and any association to the literal meaning of the word thusfar has been to anatomy rather than Egyptian mythology.
Alrighty
Seems a bit weird they use human anatomy for their religion
Their eyes are just dots
The Shambali revolve around omnics and humans in harmony, just like the omnics on this channel, so it makes sense for them to reference human anatomy.
And about who caused the Omnic Crisis, I possibly think one of the God Programs, perhaps the strongest one initiated it. But my theory is due to the dissolution of the Omnica Corporation, the creator of the omnics wants to avenge his creations and set around the path of total extinction of humans to prove a point.
What's far fetched?
Reminds me of Horizon Zero Dawn
I don't think it was ever said that Overwatch didn't shut down the Omnium in Korea, or anything mentioning Overwatch and the East China Sea omnium together
Also, Michael Chu pretty much said that Anubis was the only true "God Program" in spite of what the comic says
you have to remember the context of "god programs"
What if there's a backdoor failsafe to eliminate all Omnics?
@worthy rose That could be the case
I had a theory that Junkrat's treasure is such a failsafe
He just doesn't have the means to activate it himself
it came from an internal monologue - Pharah was describing what someone else had told her about the AI programs Overwatch shut down after the crisis
@dawn halo I would say that, with the pieces we were told in recent times
God Programs had nothing to do with the crisis
And "after the crisis" is pretty vague
the quotation marks around "god programs" tells me that that's what she has been told they are
We know now that Anubis was shut down at least a decade after the Crisis
So who made God Programs? What's the point of them?
Why introduce the concept if it's just a one off villain
And to prevent confusion or assumption
We know Anubis's quarantine had a severe impact on Egypt
A single God program could restart the crisis
So Anubis might've had a civilian usage
That's bloody horrifying
- Mission Statement indicates Overwatch quarantined Anubis post-crisis.
- Uprising indicates that there was a Cairo incident ~8 years ago.
- Bastet indicates the "Anubis Project" was shut down by Overwatch.
I would say with these parameters
Oooh
@worthy rose I doubt that a program like Anubis could restart a crisis worldwide
Was it intended as a countermeasure to omnics?
Maybe.
We only know of its ability to affect Omnics in the surrounding area
@frosty shell just for one region
Yeah, it might
Take over a production center
That might be easier said than done
Maybe one restarted the Russian one?
if Anubis could start a global crisis on its own, it would have done so when it broke containment
And Anubis did not.
It is possible that some external force might've restarted the Russian omnium; we don't know
My speculation with what we know is:
- Anubis had NOTHING to do with starting the crisis
- Anubis was made by Egypt as a defence against Omnics
- Anubis backfired
- Overwatch came in, but solved the problem poorly and fucked up Cairo even more than Anubis already was
- There were other projects (IE God Programs plural) in the works that never saw the light of day like Anubis did.
that makes sense, Jewvia
And the force that actually started the crisis must have known how to control god programs to do his, her, or it's bidding, AKA: Omnic Crisis.
The "other god programs never saw the light of day" makes a lot of sense
The Anubis Project being singled out by Ana means that it was major, while God Programs plural by Pharah means that there were others that got quarantined. Even incomplete, you can still quarantine the half finished project.
My theory is that the East China Sea omnium was built as a backup during the Crisis in the event that an omnium would be destroyed
And Overwatch never found out about it
Or the East China Sea omnium used to be above ground and upper levels used to be for lighter omnics it produced.
Also, with my speculation on the Cairo incident being Anubis... That would mean that the Iris is not related to Egypt or God Programs at all since it is 20 years old
What if the omnic crisis was purposely started to facilitate technological progress to prepare for a greater threat?
Before Overwatch or another military forced bombarded it under the sea.
Hmm, maybe that could be the case that the ECS omnium relocated
the Iris is 20 years old? or do you mean that Anubis is 20 years old
I assume "the Iris is 20 years old" is because Zen is
we don't know when the Shambali formed their religion (aside from the vague "Years ago, following the Omnic Crisis.")
@frosty shell Going to add on, the ECS omnium was larger than before, until it was bombarded and sustained heavy damage, before moving into the sea in a different location to avoid detection.
Yeah, that's possible
we also don't know if Zen was among the original group of omnics that formed the Shambali, or if he joined after they had already formed
Zen's bio is 5 paragraphs and only 2 of them are actually about Zen
And that's why Korea occasionally the the problems relating to the Gwisin instead of constantly, because the original omnium's size was large enough to produce numerous heavy/Kaiju types they use to cause extensive damage and it being heavily damaged and sized reduced, the omnium can only produce a fraction of the Gwisin in present day than before.
I thought the mecha omnic was the same one, but adapts after each battle
it was originally one massive omnic, but Shooting Star introduced the idea of additional gwishin
The additional Gwisin was probably to harass the other parts of the ROK's {South Korea's} armed forces, that's why the South Korean military uses MEKA, to deal with the main threat {Kaiju} while the other parts of the military hold back the more numerous Gwisin.
I can buy that
I'm sure there's only one big one
Also where are the omniums getting all this metal
Offshore mining.
And why do they keep fighting humans?
Can't someone send an omnic ambassador already
Or maybe they know about Australia?
And that's why they're pissed
why does anyone fight wars?
I always thought the mega-omnic WAS the Omnium
So many reasons...
Same.
was that ever said?
I don't think it was ever said, but it makes sense
DVa's bio just says: "Twenty years ago, South Korea was attacked by a colossal omnic monstrosity that rose from the depths of the East China Sea."
Religion, resources, fear, discrimination, controlling government, territory
Hard to tell what the omnics want
The colossal omnic monstrosity produces the other smaller omnics
It would explain why those little squid things came so fast
Wait, when did Australia blow up?
The ALF blew it up.
Was it before or after South Korea went to war?
We don't know
so maybe the omnium was partially destroyed, and the massive omnic took the manufacturing parts of the omnium and integrated them into itself
@dawn halo i know, timeline question
as part of its adaptations
@peak escarp That would make sense
the Australian omnium was destroyed in that same vague "after the crisis"
The Omnium itself being able to move would explain how Overwatch missed it
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He was a child when Australia blew up, right?
probably
So MAYBE South korea and australia omniums are related
it doesn't say
That's why MEKA wasn't able to destroy it, one of it's innate adaptation was it's powerful defense, however the Kaiju gets tired and has to retreat, explaining the stalemates between it and MEKA.
It needs help
An ally to win
Forcing South Korea to seek outside aid
An elite team, even
To pull an analogy, the Kaiju is like Beerus--powerful, but requires excessive amounts of rest.
I want to see it in battle
I think the gwishin retreats because it's smart - once it realizes it can't win against MEKA, it retreats to adapt and try again
@peak escarp Perhaps we can merge our theory on the Gwisin, it's smart enough to retreat once it's tired out enough for MEKA to get the upper hand.
Knowing it'll lose the endurance round
With enough health to retreat safely
Plllllllus the energy required just to move, let alone fight
And D.Va's squad (I'm going to say the Korean Power Rangers for simplicity's sake.) has occasionally battled the Gwisin, as it's logical for MEKA, or the South Korean Army, to have more squadrons of mechs around.
Recharging would be necessary
How does it recharge? The ocean is an answer.
Geo or solar
Tidal energy still means ocean.
I know, just reiterating
Maybe it eats krill
Do omnics eat
Possibly, but not necessary.
Hm
What if... someone is piloting the South Korean omnic and controls the omnium?
Either/or
seems unlikely
Unlikely, because it's impossible to find the ECS omnium without special technology, let alone the materials to control it by human hands.
Someone found it before it activated, and has the tools to control it
Omnics can be hacked, and omniums were designed by humans
we already have an omnium/omnics that are in collusion with humans
we already have confirmation for that situation with the Siberian omnium
Omniums are large, and it'll be impossible to take one over with one person with tools.
Why is it impossible?
Each omnium is unique, the Australian one is unique, the Detroit one is unique, the ECS is unique, the Siberian one is unique, there could be different requirements to take a different omnium over, there isn't one tool fits all with omniums.
Who said one tool fits all?
Who said they were unique
I just said one omnium, one tool
the only one we've seen is the Australian omnium, and we only see what's left of it
we have never seen a functioning omnium
That'd be a cool mission thooo
there is some concept art, but it shouldn't be considered canon
Can you imagine a mission or even a map in a functioning one?
for all we know they could be identical
What if omnics have a secret terrorist society like Talon
they did have Null Sector
unknown if there are any remnants of that
well, in a way you can say each omnium is unique, in the sense that each should have an AI (or cluster of AI, however it is)
So each is an unique entity
Physically though, they may or amy not be similar.
Though since it is suggested omnium can sorta learn things just like a sentient, it is likely that their products would change overtime to say the least
what if genji had a chrowhatever accelerator
He's shitposting
anyone realize that ever since black panther movie came out doomfist pickrate has increased approximately 43%?
i was just about to mention that @gray pulsar
its strange and interesting.
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@worthy rose ?
Would it be possible to get the Australian omnium working again?
Radiation is shit, look at the fallout effects of nuclear weapons, but magnify the radiation.
considering it's basically gutted and turned into a city, I'd say no
Was Junkertown from the structual remains of the omnium?
Nevermind, I found out.
It was.
Yeah
The radiation probably died down enough for humans to be in there without suits, or perhaps there was a "radiation free pocket" that was the area encompassed by the former omnium that was used to build Junkertown.
the people there are still pretty irradiated
look at Junkrat and Roadhog
but it's at non-lethal "safe" levels
just enough to make them weird
And insane, and cruel, just like everything in 🇦🇺.
I mean roadhog has a gas mask that would probably keep the radiation out
Junkrat seems crazier than Roadhog
Australia in general is dangerous, look at the fauna, most will wanna kill you or don't but can.
@shell onyx gas mask doesnt protect you from radiation...
Roadhog's canisters are filled with anti-radiation medicine
called Hogdrogen
(this sounds like a shitpost but I swear it isn't)
I know you know
I guess I was arguing semantics
But it still isn't healthy
Roadhog is in terrible health
!!wiki Hogdrogen
Bot seems to be slow so
What the hell ever happened to tracers origin story?
did blizzard take it down or something
So it was a one time thing?
it's posted on Youtube, just not on the official Blizzard channel
I see
Amazon Kindle has a bunch of free Overwatch Origin stories graphic novels
it is free online, and most animated
What I was wondering is that the mentioned Thief in Paris, will they be mentioned with mroe lore. I mean the one wwith the pigs mentioning them in the voiceline
Also, it is still cool if it is not playable, but you get to hear stories of them more and more.
the mentioned Thief in Paris
@regal coyote Who?
Also what do you mean by "the pigs". Be more specific rather than using ambigious slang
I don't remember Roadhog mentioning anyone.
@regal coyote Are you reffering to those shown in the police station?
Since we're talking about the Paris map, in terms of the thieves, and there is a police station, I'm assuming "pigs" is referring to the police
But I don't remember any voicelines, unless some play in the station that I missed
Same, more background noise rather than full on talking
Also, I'm guessing that the next Archives mission, the one coming up, will be set in Paris. Unless they pull a new one out like they did last year. Ofc they might extend it etc etc. But if that's so, maybe more about the "thieves" will be revealed in Archives. Paris is a hotbed for Omnic Propoganda and revolution so it would fit perfectly
Yes, but it is possible an event in the past is what lead to the current revolution. Similar to Kings Row how uprising took place there and even now Omnics are treated like a lower class
It is much smaller than the previous maps
What you are describing is not an interesting new scenario to look into either. Its literally just Uprising 2.
it's actually the largest map
And I apologize, I only just today joined this channel ;-;
Very true
Just throwing ideas out, sorry
Many people are expecting a Talon based event in the past, based on the pool of heroes who have not yet been in archives events yet.
Widow, Doomfist, Sombra, and Baptiste fills out a team.
I'm expecting that too tbh
everyone assumes they won't repeat heroes
I really do hope Sombra is an option
The setting is also anticipated to be Havana, based on an update to Numbani, but it can still be anywhere.
I'm just really curious what the mission will be. I've seen some "kidnap the brainwashed Widow" but idk about that
Ooh, Havana would be great
Kidnap Widow makes no sense.
And that's where Bap is from yes?
No.
no
Baptiste is from Haiti
Havana is in Cuba, Bap is from Haiti
but he could've been posted there in his Caribbean Coalition time or something like that
It's fine.
Haiti and Cuba are neighbours though
he may well have the connection
I need to catch up on the lore, so I apologize if I make some mistakes
As long as you are interested, and willing to learn from your mistakes, no worries.
Thank you!
With the updates from the travel agencies on the airport, we WILL get something on Havana
that said, we do not know if it would be a full map, or a small vs map ting or just a storyplot
So, potentially archives, but if not perhaps something else in the future
I can see it being tied to Baptiste

@regal coyote who were the theives and pigs you were talking about earlier btw
Suspect repéré dans la librairie Carpentier : « Vote*» omniaque féminin d’1m60. Suspect detected at Carpentier bookstore : « Vote » female omnic 5"3 ft tall.
@gentle token
Weird that the trailer ends on "No second chances"
Considering that's his entire character
@limpid agate i think it means "you only live once"
(no not doing the harshtag)
though technically in his case
You only live twice
Or so it seems
One life for yourself
And one for your dreams
Either waybits contradictory to his character
yep. bit of a strange note
How did Baptise desert Talon?
I hope it isn't in an impressionistic way, because a character I created coincidentally have the same aspects of a backstory as Baptise.
what do you mean, how?
Yeah, how Bap was able to get out of a Talon base without orders from his higher ups.
But theres the problem, if he doesn't show up to do stuff, some people will get suspicious.
Perhaps the Caribbean Coalition assisted Bap in defecting and hiding his tracks from Talon until they stop searching.
He could have gone off the grid for a prolonged period, with assistance from the Caribbean Coalition.
Woops, I'm on the wrong footing, but he could have gone off the grid for a prolonged period.
Going based off a competent different story
When a job comes up, you get a phone call and like, 20 minutes to comply
Get in the car, they bring you to the jet, and fly you across the country
And by not complying, you're an enemy of the state
Though that was a government agent thing, not a terrorist organization
But Id imagine a similar practice is evoked if they do get to live outside the bunker
TLDR: Skipping work = Deserting
Actually, what role is Bap going to have in the story? To dive deeper into how Talon functions?
Possibly another pawn in a larger game...
well he's the first one to leave
I still say he might be joining new overwatch
possibly after either he comes to their aid during an attack or vice versa
He might, but from some connotations with Haitian history, he probably values his independence above all else, so I can't see him joining as a full member.
But assisting Overwatch, I see it within his character to do so.
I get the feeling that with new overwatch no one will really have it as a full time thing
it's definitely less organized
It seems less of an organization and more of just a team
it is
It might change once more people reach Winston, because once it's large enough, organization helps the leader(s) out.
it may be possible
but even if it's wider I don't think everyone is devoting themselves to it fully
How was Winston and Tracer able to hide themselves from the world once the UN condemns them coming back?
Not on missions, but in between one mission to another.
Did reaper successfully get the data from the network?
Do we know why reaper hunts down OW or is it as simple as he feels like he was cheated out of the commander position
he thinks ow has the large bad
I think the partial database Reaper has mostly is weaker Overwatch agents, only a few of those really matter to take out.
Angsty boy
@tired pewter He doesnt care about the commander position
Then why? For the luls?
we don't know why
it's one of the bigger mysteries in the lore
why Reyes turned on Overwatch, why the omnics woke back up and waged war on humanity . . .
And a lot of our fans have assumed "oh, that's why Reyes and Morrison hate each other," and the story that we're developing is actually, like--no, these guys loved each other--like--they're like, best war buddies. And in a lot of ways, Reyes was relieved that Morrison had to have the more political role, and like, he was like kind of--it's always easier being the number two guy because you're not ultimately accountable for all that, Reyes was kind of, you know, in some ways thankful and relieved, um, and weirdly, we're gonna show how that relationship actually was Morrison's downfall because for so long, Morrison would actually defend Reyes's questionable actions.
Reyes was happy to not be in charge
It almost seems like Reyes wanted to do something questionable again and after so many times of saying yes Morrison said no for once and something brewed between them. It does say that Morrison defended Reye's actions "for so long"
Like Morrison maybe wouldn't approve the action but wouldn't be against it
that was the case during Retribution
Morrison said he couldn't officially sanction Reyes going after Antonio, but he wasn't against it either
it led to Blackwatch being exposed and eventually led to Overwatch being outlawed entirely
Soldier 76 is gay apparently? That's new to me
yes he is
What is the electricity that sparks from Winston's eyes when he goes into Primal Rage?
And why do his eyes turn orange?
I’m gonna guess it’s a side effect of the genetic modification? Or idk, aesthetic choices the devs didn’t think too hard about because I can’t really think of a reason why you’d want the gorilla to shoot lightning out of its eyes when it’s angry
@supple bear An aesthetic design by the team that made the Exhibit short.
It also occurs in Recall tho, not just in the Exhibit one
I assume the reasoning was still the same tho
it happens in Recall because it happened in the Exhibit
because the artists made that choice in 2014
Is that cinematic formally called the Exhibit?
Or are we just using that cuz it's easier to refer to that cinematic?
it's officially called the Cinematic Trailer
but that's a lot to type
we just call it the Exhibit or the Museum
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MEKA must have some pretty advanced mech replacement capabilities if a mech has to self destruct, and in lore, is the self destruct a lot more destructive?
watch Shooting Star
DVa has to overload the fusion core to self destruct her mech
it's not a standard feature, and it was probably expensive (both in time and money) to replace
I have watched Shooting Star, but if it was used on downtown Busan, or any other city, would it cause much destruction once it explodes?
I see the self destruct having in between the energy equivalent of a MOAB (~11 tons) and one kiloton.
i guess it would depend. but she blew her mech over the ocean pretty far from the city so that might've aided in the city not being affected
realistically dva would've died in that short, if not from the fall into the sea, from the shrapnel or sheer impact of the explosion
things in the canon lore are generally much different than in game, just in general
devs have said that themselves
Makes me wonder how Lucio’s skates work, among other things.
Maybe her flight suit has inertial dampers. 😉
Lucio skates are an absolute mystery. They clearly provide rollerblading like movement but can also for short times adhere to walls.
of course lack of outside of gameplay lucio stuff means we have yet to see his skates or sound tech for that matter operate in "lore mode" really.
11 megaton explosion, completely unscathed by standing behind a car or wall
realistically a lot of people would die from things that happen to them in overwatch
With lucios skates it could be using sound tech still, maybe a echo effect where the bounce back becomes it's own pull?
Overwatch does generally follow comic book physics even in its lorebits
but it is meant to be kinda like a super hero setting
I think the archives event would probably utilise the Paris map
Maybe
@jagged scarab The glow skates is not a Lucio unque thing, it is a more common feature than you think. Hell they even have a lucioball league in universe
for anyone else, do not dwell too much or artistic effect. They are ment to be artistic rather than realistic, like the eye glow of wisnton when he goes SSG or vairous effect lines when people attack.
@worthy rose cool but wrong channel to post, post in general or overwatch, dont foul up this place
on MEKA explosion, it is not a standard feature but a glitch where hana +friendzoneboi made use of.
so yeah Hana totally pwn that omnic by glitching
also yes the explosion is not that powerful in term of nuclear explosion but it is enough to kill the omnic. More like if it were that powerful Hana would be like korean fried chicken being within pistol range
Also due to the plotarmor Hana wear she is able to come out with only minor damage like a broken leg.
Most likely that pilot suit offer great protection .
his eyes turn orange because he activates peanut butter power
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@odd dagger Final warning
try me
Moving swiftly onwards
real or fake?
If I knew what it said I would have a better opinion @regal coyote
Oh yeah well I am sure that's gonna happen eventually
seems real, but the dates are later than expected
more interested in the background of the foreign language one
you see finger of moira on it
Isn't that a window?
but it is retributin map and room again
it's just the background from Retribution
why though
because they haven't made the new one yet
okay
OH
thought they just gonna repeat retribution again, that would suck
I thought you meant the window was someones finger hahahaha
like they did last year
well retribution and uprising is a default, but what is new :3
We do not know what lore event we will be getting this year yet. As the event is a little under a month out.
However people are banking on Masquerade, or a Talon mission. Based on (what i think is fake) a leak that shows Baptiste, Sombra, Moira, and Doomfist. (I think)
it's a fake
I figured.
but a Talon mission is still possible
Yeah im hoping for Masquerade.
I've been hoping for 2 years, but that sombra skin would be awesome. Plus maybe canonical voices for characters like Maximilian
The likely lineup if it’s a talon mission is Widow, Baptiste, Sombra and Doomfist
As Moira has already been in a mission, Retribution that is likely
Still got fingers crossed for Masquerade.
It’s more that she was still in overwatch at that time
No one can stop me from that
even if she was a double agent, she wouldn’t risk showing herself
For the sake of science? We dont know how far she would go
Crying out loud, she tested on herself. She could have been playing both sides.
she’s dedicated but she’s not dumb
going on a talon combat mission would’ve exposed her
her being a double agent back then is also kind of shaky in the first place
Giving advice covertly
that’s a possibility
Reaper wasnt covert, but his voice was there.
but I doubt her as playable hero
"I don't have much time. But >insert some mission details< good luck."
lmao ok
As for how D. Va survived the fall into the sea, I have no idea, but her suit probably did protect against shrapnel
I wonder if she thought she was going to make it out alive or not\
Medical tech in Overwatch is a lot better, so that might've helped
I also wonder if D. Va's suit can offer buoyancy?
I wouldn't be surprised, considering that these mechs are supposed to fight over water.
The helicopter that picked her up probably arrived pretty soon after, so that probably would've helped her survive
When it cuts away, it looks like D. Va is about to do a back flop, which would seem like the worst option
Widow, Baptiste, Sombra and Doomfist would be hard on the timeline
there is only a small timeframe for that to be happening
Not really
couldn't be more than 7 years ago
it doesn't have to be wide
archives so far are 7 and 8, and it could be around that time
Either the period between Gerard's death and DF's capture, or fairly recently between DF's escape and Baptiste's leaving
think about it, this requires: 1) doomie to be successor of the fist but not imprisoned yet, 2) widow to be brainwashed and trained, after retribution by far, Bapt joined, leveled to importance, but not yet run away
so 6-7 years ago
Not yet run away isn't a problem, we know that's fairly recent
so probably after ana got yeeted
Basically around the time of Retribution.
no
adjusted for other things, it would be most likely after ana's clash with widow (first time widow is revealed in an anti ow mission)
he was still alive during Retribution
he was killed some time between Retribution and Uprising
gerard is inhospital but he fine, he even interorgate gabe after retribution mission
and doomie arrested after uprising
So after Retribution but before Uprising.
Sure, it's a fairly narrow time period, but it almost certainly exists.
Widow, Baptiste, Sombra and Doomfist can happen after uprising
just has to be before doomfist got penal
actually if we go by ana being removed it must be after uprising
so a time when ow starts breaking up big time
Why does Ana need to be gone?
This could be an early mission testing widow
Maybe the reason she got OW's attention.
ok then
it can be before ana
but only a little bit before
seeing that this is a piece of news/info
so probably no more than a couple months old at best?
so between 7 years ago (around the time of Uprising) to about 5-6 years ago (before Doomfist gets captured)
that's not that small
what things do we know that would have happened in that timeframe
not much
I think the Swiss HQ explosion happens before Doomfist is captured (because otherwise Jack and Gabe would have been on that mission)
wont bt that yet
or it would be a HUGE event of the year
with lots of hype
contrary to talon there can be another mission idea with winston
makes sense also
if they don't care about repeating heroes, it could be Genji's mission to dismantle the Shimada clan
that happens around then
Winston was a researcher
I don't think they would send him on a mission unless it was really urgent.
mercy was a researcher
I don't think they would send her on a mission unless it was really urgent.
^ right?
my point is that many of these heros have multiple roles
plus we dont know much about winston during his ow days really
we only have a few photos
we've only seen him in a lab
Do you think these stories deserve a movie?
yes
so it's a safe assumption that he's just a researcher
How about a movie about the rise of overwatch. The story can consist of the re-activation of the omnic factories by an unknown person with torbjorn's blueprints and towards the end will be the end of the war
that would be great
IKR
but probably wouldn't happen until the story has developed more
Or blizzard gets enough money
@worthy rose that would be a triology though
@regal coyote Nah , just the one
animated feature we hope
Winston was on the mission to take down Doomfist
yes
cause we really dont want it to be like DBZ movie or Avatar movie... where the director should be dragged in the middle of the street and get death by ligma
I think there is more than enough lore to make a movie IMO
that why i say 2-3 movie
yeah
activation of omnic war to be one, ends up omnic marching towards everything
the war would be 2nd
and ow formation would be end of 3rd
if the focus is on Overwatch, it wouldn't make sense to show all the war before they formed
but if focus is on the jack-gabe-ana trio it would make sense
I think it would just be a couple of scenes, showing each of the OW members's involvement in the war, then bring them together in the middle and have them end the war by the end of the movie
no need for a trilogy
then it would be cramped
just to explain what omnium is, and why it reactivates it would be a huge part think about it
if you want a trilogy, have the first movie be the Omnic Crisis, second movie be Golden Age Overwatch, third movie be the Fall of Overwatch
ou cant say the whole thing in 5 minutes
lol
this would be more cramped than the Gunnm movie
or as you would call Battleangel Alita
hell, do what Star Wars does and do it in text
Also, most heroes wouldn't appear in just the Crisis
A modern-day movie would work the best
actually i rather see it as a nexflix series
I'm also picturing this movie to be 2.5-3 hours long
that way you get more lore and it is cheaper
my imagination is ambitious
netflix series aint bad either
more lore, ambitious
and the key moment can be a movie
and since it is a series you can do offbeat episodes, and some darker theme episodes
a series would be better
and that's basically what we're getting, just very slowly
I want a a Netflix series with junk rat and road hog trying to find the secret treasure
Junkrat already has his treasure
i think he means an episode of how junkrat got his treasure
he found it before he met Roadhog
Yeah sorry I meant episode
it might not even be a physical treasure
Because all I remember was they said he found it in an omnium or whatever
Junkrat's bio just says he found a secret in the bones of the omnium
bottom
and it is probably big
so he has to hide it somewhere
i mean big as in physical size
Now og god, a "Cairo: being Humn" would be a great episode, showing how ow mess up destroying cairo's most likely omnic controlling system
I have my theory that it was an Omnic failsafe that Junkrat needs someone else's help to activatee
it could just be knowledge
He came to notoriety when he discovered an extremely valuable secret in the bones of the omnium. Though few knew the nature of what he found, he was nonetheless pursued by bounty hunters, gangs, and opportunists wherever he went, until he made a deal with the Junker enforcer Roadhog, who grudgingly agreed to be his personal bodyguard in exchange for a fifty-fifty share of the spoils.
In the future, I assume I will see many of my headcanons wrecked by lore
General Myung was actually already in my headcanon, though
would be nice if she get one of her eyeball clawed out by a cat
whatever it is, just take out one of her eyes plz
Yes, codename Fury
just think it would be a cool direction/modo for her design
we don't even know what she looks like
she is a background character msotly anyways, not to be playable, just like most of other people
missing eyes are cliche and overdone
so a bit more generic but iconic idea on her would be nice
like either Fury, or M, etc
something you see and already have the idea of how she might be
Tf is this meme.
she should look like a military commander, because she is a military commander
you still want her to have a face (not like a pcture but soem uniqueness on her)
but uniformity makes for shit character
she's not an important character
Actual soldiers don't have anime eyepatches and Naruto headbands they wear in unique ways.
hence in many series there is a uniqueness to the characters
she doesn't have to look unique
allso east asian countries tend to have traditionally more leway when it coems to commander class above/or certain aces
basically a bit more customization
I expect her to look something like
not too unique, but not faceless
add a scar, an eyepatch, or some cyborg part, something different
(except Korean instead of Japanese)
"Something different"
When half the cast already has scars, eyepatches, and cyborg parts?
even japanese t series would not use this as a named character
Please do not get a job at Blizzard.
she's not an important character
even not important characcter like other meka pilot ahe some uniqueness in design
obviously not as much as dva but it is there
that is fine also
i am happy with her as a voice also
but yes an episode on the meka is nice also
also, remember by doing something like that, it is opening up potential to sell merch
I think it would be epic reat if the movie included some epic clips of OWL players in a fight.
@peak escarp you are always on here lol
yes
Also what do we know about Zarya
she was born in a remote Siberian village that was devastated by the omnic crisis
she became a world champion weight lifter but on the eve of the championships (Olympics?) a new crisis broke out so she abandoned her dreams to defend her homeland
Then Infiltration and Searching happened
How heavy is the particle cannon?
A lot
And how does grav work
We don't know
Like from a realistic perspective
she went into weightlifting so she would have the strength to defend her country
I don't think the exact specifics of Graviton will ever be explained
In rl it would be THE most powerful ability period
Probably
Of course, there are in-universe limits so that it can't be classified as a superweapon or destroy the earth
Or hook 1.0
You're saying a meat hook on a chain would be more powerful than a rocket launcher irl.
You seem confused.
To be fair, hook 1.0 was basically "teleport the person you're looking at to the business end of your gun"
gameplay isn't lore
HMm Zarya carrying her heavy particle cannon with her on a search and assassinate mission hmm
It is her primary advantage against some rando with a gun
The ability to block bullets is worth the unwieldy weapon.
@cedar yacht Grav uses gravitons which are theoretical particles that alter gravity, effectively creating a black hole but not really, hence the name Graviton Surge 😃
“even not important characcter like other meka pilot ahe some uniqueness in design”
Well...MEKA isn’t exactly traditional military either though
I don’t recall all of their histories, but two of them were Starcraft players...standard uniform doesn’t exactly fit
we've seen the MEKA pilot's uniforms
Captain Myung is not a MEKA pilot
she's a captain in the Korean army
Right? I’m saying that a more formal uniform would make more sense from a non-meka
We also know that Zarya's gun is powered by a "Toblestein Reactor"
Which is a joke on how her ult sounds but it is canon according to Efi's to-do list
Well from Zaryas Tobelstein Reactor spray and back at the gun it looks like that is the source of the gravitons given the floating energy ball that its producing, hes primary is probably just some standard in universe energy beam technology but maybe her secondary uses the gravitons to form the ball shape
So zarya's ult isn't a black hole?
Not really I guess its just a bunch of sucky suck particles
it's like a gravity well
200 pounds
add another gay hero
What does the thing zarya says when she ults mean?
@dense crow You sure? Not a transgender hero? Or bisexual? Or asexual?
Just wanna triple down on gay, eh.
The 'i'm going for the torbnesty'
Yeah
@cedar yacht http://lmgtfy.com/?q=zarya+quotes
@cedar yacht Огонь по готовности.
zenyeeta is an attack helicopter
Tornbestu is a ancient relic
I’m sorry?
You're forgiven.
sorry
Can I ask what I did
Please explain, "Tornbestu is a ancient relic".
lmao i always thought it was "I'm going forget torbnasteen" which makes no sense whatsoever
Ogon' po gotovnosti
Its the russian translation of "fire at will"
What's is the heaviest thing Zarya can possibly lift?
Well, based on her tattoo we know her dead lift weight is 522 kilos,
her record is 512 kg
Dang, ten off
but that's the extreme maximum
her comfortable lifting weight is probably much lower
And it’s just a dead lift, that works back grip and legs, so for her too hold something like the particle cannon it works arms a lot more
Well her cannon was ripped off of a tank so it has to be pretty weighty
512 kilos is pretty damn high, as that's slightly over half a tonne if you know SI units.
If Talon is known to be trying to cause tension between omnics and humanity, wouldn't that cause them to unite against Talon?
Talon is an organized group, so they could cover up their tracks, bribe and/or blackmail the media to not report the incidents and not conduct investigations about Talon.
So hence the Recall
Is Mei still walking around in Antarctica?
no
she met up with Winston then went to Asia to investigate abandoned research stations in the Himalayas
sounds fun
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If i remember right though Blizz follows the misheard and actually name parts "torbnasteen" :3
as for zarya's weapon weight, we do not knwo but it has to be heavy
though I would suspect her armor does work to protect her from injury when she is lifting that thing
funny she do not have a harness on the weapon to help her medigate some of its load
but then again zarya is known to be powerful brave and practical, but not big on covert and subtlity
(and no she cannot be gay, for practival reasons due to stupid russia)
"Torbelstein", and yes it was made as a reference to the misheard voice line.
There's likely some armor on her, but the shields come from the gun
She doesn't have a harness because it's not built to be wielded by humans
What does her being gay have to do with anything
well it is easy to add a harness onto the weapon really since it is a customized thing anwyays
service crew can surely make something like that with little effort
as for the gay comment it was to the guy above claiming on that topic (if they ban tracer comic they surely be too neanderthal to allow zarya to be anything but cis straight, or ow might get banned in russia, i mean ow the game rl)
Where does it mention Mei meeting Winston in Mei's Adventures?
It mentions Winston suggesting the journal idea, but does that mean she actually met him?
Would the lore discussion be the place to talk about the new archives event or....
if it's about the story aspect of it, yes
@supple bear it would be kinda hard for Winston to suggest the journal if she hadn't contacted him
also the way she says "yes, that Mei!" makes me think it's been a while and the story of her miraculous survival has gone public and she's a little bit famous
(DVa even has a line in-game about reading her journals)
she would have contacted winston
though not sure if physically or not
not that it matters
It doesn’t really matter, but then how did she get out of Antarctica
My guess is she went to the nearest port and sailed out. That, or she had an active signal opened on a free channel in the hopes that someone will pick it up.
there are other bases and ports in antartica
hell there is a town in antartica in the warm months that is quite booming currently
Does the Overwatch universe have long-distance teleportation yet
dont think so
if so wouldnt we see ALOT more of it xd
short distance teleporters are a thing though obviously seen with sym
also i wanted to ask does the OW universe have the same weapons as we do irl? like ak47s, ar15's etc
I can’t see Vishkar being too willing to share their teleporting technology though
Hey, does anybody know Baptist’s nationally? They added Paris only a little bit before he was added and his name is French, so I though he was French, but he sounds African in his voice lines and origin story so I’m not sure
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Ooooooooh, that makes sense with his hammock spray
cant wait till he gets interaction with other heroes
like sombra doomfist moira reaper etc
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They played that music during the intervals of OWL, right? I thought it was a remix of the Alive theme from Widowmaker’s short?
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