the teasers for the new hero should come soon right?
#lore-discussion
prisma wren
peak escarp
I think we might get one more before the reveal
prisma wren
hm
worthy rose
Watch it be Cuevere or Nguyen
or the leader of the talon guy that Nguyen was reporting to
prisma wren
anybody else suprised that there is some overwatch youtuber called jean baptiste
worthy rose
but all liklihood is pointing it to Baptiste
the game's been needing a new main heals
for a while
same with main tanks
peak escarp
another male healer would be nice
since we've only got Zen and Lucio
it's the class with the biggest gender imbalance
worthy rose
Alright cause then wouldn't that make tanks the biggest gender imbalance with 5 males and 2 females?
clear remnant
There needs to be a new male character, cause we’ve been getting a bunch or female characters recently, maybe it’s set up like the system for new characters and maps,
runic prairie
Well thats interesting
I think we're wrong.
We're all wrong.
Upon putting the last characters in it comes up in maori as "Baptise Do it."
I don't think it's baptise.
Upon actually figuring this out, i dont think its him.
It's another Efi.
runic prairie
I'm almost confident Baptise, he's a red herring.
He's important, yes, and may be a future hero. But i dont think he's next.
What's wrong, and do it....
clear remnant
You should be confident in your answer
Your answer may be correct, but yeah we’ve gotten some clues on the next hero
Most likely a female
errant bridge
i to be honest baptise might not be the next hero i mean blizzard has tricked us before
clear remnant
Many times
runic prairie
I just translated the hexadecimal in the twitter video, it comes up with both "What's wrong?" And "Do it"
Pashto and maori respectively
clear remnant
that’s interesting
runic prairie
Thats why i dont think its baptise
If you dont believe me: go translate the hex to basic. Then put it in google translate with those two languages
clear remnant
It could be a later hero, we don’t know, or it could be just a background character
I believe you
errant bridge
i do believe it
runic prairie
We can thank my brother.
errant bridge
and im almost sure that itll be a hero from Talon
runic prairie
He pointed out one of the characters looked arabic
Guess what descends from arabic
pashto
clear remnant
oh
runic prairie
It's a loose cousin
peak escarp
what
runic prairie
snaps not exactly we dont know who sent the transmission
peak escarp
how do you translate hex to basic?
errant bridge
and to be honest isnt it too obvious that itll be Baptise?
runic prairie
lots of headache typing
worthy rose
They've put too much detail into Baptiste for him to not be a future hero
runic prairie
@errant bridge the same thing that happene with doomfist.
@worthy rose efi
Enough said
Efi had articles released about her, then we got orisa
worthy rose
But efi obviously had at least some issues with going into battle
errant bridge
they put a lot of hints that it would be sombra a while ago but it wasnt her being added
could easily be the same here
worthy rose
and then they showed that it was her creation instead
runic prairie
Yep
worthy rose
Is there anything in a similar position with Baptiste?
runic prairie
So who's to say the new hero isnt a commander, or putting out false info
errant bridge
theres way too many hints about this character
worthy rose
^
runic prairie
It just seems weird that hexadecimal would ask whats wrong and do it
Like, VERY weird.
peak escarp
you can't convert hex to basic
runic prairie
It could be, which means he's canonically dead like gerard and Cuerva is the new hero
A basic translation i meant
peak escarp
translate to what?
peak escarp
hex to text gives: �
������Baptiste`YwA��i���g��0څ��"���ĭ��
which is the name from the letter
runic prairie
But the second part
Put that into google translate.
With pashto
And then maori
I managed to get whats wrong and do it
Granted, there can be discrepancies between hex translations due to a potential mistype
errant bridge
wait guys did anyone see the twitter thing with the first hint to the new hero? it says JNE 18 at the top could that mean something is coming on June 18?
clear remnant
But it’s around the time I believe Otis’s was released
peak escarp
errant bridge
but it could still mean something will gappen that day
peak escarp
I still get Baptiste
clear remnant
Normally in the spring we get characters
runic prairie
And take out baptise
peak escarp
@errant bridge JNE is a programming function
errant bridge
oh
peak escarp
it means Jump if Not Equal
runic prairie
Also holy hell that is not translating properly wtf
errant bridge
i dont do programming so idk
peak escarp
you can't just cherry pick letters to form words
runic prairie
Still do it, please.
clear remnant
If it’s done correctly
runic prairie
I grabbed what i could and got what i could out of it
errant bridge
it was just a suggestion :/ get off my back
clear remnant
Maybe nit pick or try to
silent nymph
What time do these teaser susually come out in America?
clear remnant
Um
runic prairie
Yeah one second im sending mine
peak escarp
PlayOverwatch generally tweets at 11am PST
silent nymph
You lot get to see it all early in the morning, I have to wait until 7pm to see these posts. Lucky
clear remnant
But yeah around 11
runic prairie
If imgur doesnt like me, can i pm it to you doctor?
It straight up comes up with, whats wrong.
If you cherry pick a little, you can pull that
Its not much, but its something
worthy rose
Again, it's highly unlikely that they did so much showing who Baptiste is for him not to be a hero
runic prairie
They did it with efi, i wouldnt be surprised.
peak escarp
that doesn't erase the fact that Baptiste's name is right there
runic prairie
It just seems weird that with a little looking you can find that phrase
peak escarp
without needing to cherry pick or translate it
runic prairie
Its all theories, but i still think we dont know 100% its baptise
worthy rose
It's something, but probably not a hero switcheroo
runic prairie
shrug efi, orisa, doomfist. They did something similar there.
clear remnant
Yeah
clear remnant
But over watch has tricked us many times
worthy rose
Especially with Baptiste being a medic + healer-tank imbalance + hero rotation
< ow community
worthy rose
I'd say 25% chance of Baptiste being 31, not 30
runic prairie
It seems weird.
clear remnant
#brigitte
peak escarp
hero rotation?
clear remnant
He still maybe around his 30’s
runic prairie
I knew this had something in it. It may not be much, or be a red herring, but its something
worthy rose
Last two were what, Ashe and Hammond?
runic prairie
i just fucking knew it
worthy rose
dps and tank
peak escarp
they don't follow a pattern
worthy rose
It's likely that they're going towards dps/tank/heal balance
runic prairie
They did moira and brig right after each other.
peak escarp
Ana, Sombra, Orisa, Doomfist, Moira, Brigitte, Wrecking Ball, Ashe
support, damage, tank, damage, support, support, tank, damage
runic prairie
There is no true pattern
clear remnant
No
peak escarp
the only pattern is that we get one of each class per year
clear remnant
Yeah
runic prairie
And this is the first one.
peak escarp
2017 was Orisa, Doomfist, Moira
2018 was Brigitte, Wrecking Ball, Ashe
runic prairie
So we're due for support, tank, and damage
worthy rose
To me, it looks like they're trying to even it out at very least between tank and healer.
runic prairie
So its honestly up in the air who it could be
peak escarp
but we've only had this pattern for 2 years
clear remnant
Yeah
peak escarp
not long enough to establish whether it's a fixed pattern or just an anomaly
runic prairie
Baptise was a teaser. He could be an efi, he could be the hero. Just keep your eyes open and dont be surprised
I am glad i figured this out, it's cool to finally figure something out 80% on your own. (Some idea bouncing but not much else)
Idea bouncing off someone made me realize it looks like a spanish question mark, asking my brother realized it looks somewhat arabic, and then going from there.
worthy rose
Baptiste already has enough background that doing an Efi is unlikely (combat medic?) and just not being a hero is very unlikely
runic prairie
shrug i wouldnt be surprised if he's 30 or 31.
But we're due for echo also
Dont forget that
peak escarp
Echo will probably come at Blizzcon
clear remnant
Like
worthy rose
Echo isn't 30, but is probably in the next few
clear remnant
Moira
clear remnant
Didn’t echo get shown in the newest overwatch animation
runic prairie
Yep
worthy rose
Echo
runic prairie
Echo and athena are different.
clear remnant
I was thinking abt something else
runic prairie
Though i do like to believe Echo's AI is based off of athena or vice versa shrug
clear remnant
It probably is
worthy rose
Echo looks how I'd expect Athena to look
clear remnant
Same
runic prairie
Agreed.
clear remnant
She was in the thing and everyone said it was Athena
runic prairie
Thats why i like to think that so far, since we know so little about both Athena and Echo
clear remnant
Wait
runic prairie
Arguably, we know more about athena than we do echo
peak escarp
what do we know about Athena?
worthy rose
We definitely know more about Athena
runic prairie
She's Winston's personal help AI, like a cortana
worthy rose
Winston's AI
peak escarp
we know that she's an AI
clear remnant
What do you think, if echo is gonna be a hero, what would her abilities be
runic prairie
Echo, we know she was associated with overwatch and knew a lot of the members....but not much else
peak escarp
idk, this isn't really the place for that
worthy rose
Seems kinda like an omnic without a body
runic prairie
Athena isn't a God AI, or whatever they are called. Its been awhile. Like the Anubis one.
peak escarp
Athena is just an AI
runic prairie
So her being an omnic without a body, and Echo being well...her echo would make sense
peak escarp
Echo is just a robot (not even an omnic)
worthy rose
Do we know that though?
clear remnant
Athena isn’t made into a body or anything
peak escarp
if by "omnic without a body" you mean an AI, then yes
runic prairie
Thats what i mean by it
peak escarp
then just say AI
worthy rose
Wait, that's actually a good idea
runic prairie
So Echo would literally be Athena's echo. A mobile version of Athena, but without as much processing power and able to fight etc
worthy rose
Have we stumbled upon something amazing?
peak escarp
as far as we know there is no connection between Echo and Athena
runic prairie
shrug i know, its all theory.
worthy rose
But there has to be a reason she's named Echo
runic prairie
I hope im not right
clear remnant
Or maybe, idk if it’s the same, Athena could control echo, but if Athena isn’t there echo would barely have smarts
worthy rose
Yes
peak escarp
I doubt Athena would control her
clear remnant
Yeah
runic prairie
The most recent episode, Echo is similar to Steven.
Yes, Pink/Rose gave steven a body, but his mom is still part of him.
Echo may be in a similar way, but athena still exists at Gibraltar.
peak escarp
spoilers
runic prairie
It's a duplicated program that can learn
clear remnant
That’s basically what I said earlier
peak escarp
Echo and Athena are not connected
worthy rose
not necessarily
runic prairie
And we cannot discuss the possibility?
peak escarp
the devs said there is no connection between them
worthy rose
awww
peak escarp
the logo was on her head to fill space
worthy rose
rip kinda cool theories
clear remnant
Yeah rip
peak escarp
then what are you basing it on? we have nothing else
worthy rose
If you don't trust the devs, then you can assume a lot of things
peak escarp
Echo doesn't act like Athena
Echo doesn't sound like Athena
Echo doesn't look like Athena
clear remnant
We can barely trust the devs
runic prairie
First you try to disprove me on the hex, and i prove you wrong. Im not arguing with you on this.
peak escarp
you didn't prove me wrong
runic prairie
Feel free to attempt to harass me.
clear remnant
Cause they do a bunch of stuff and tease different characters
peak escarp
you cherry picked letters until you found something
runic prairie
Go nuts, you'll only get yourself banned.
peak escarp
also I am an active and trusted member here
silent nymph
Do we actually know yet what role echo played in overwatch? Not as in support, damage role but in the lore?
silent nymph
I think it was a clever move from blizzard, announcing a distant hero in that way
But right now I just want more hero 30 teasers
I read up that there were 4 days between the first two Hammond teasers, is this true?
silent nymph
So it isn't too unusual to have this long of a wait before the first and second 'baptiste' teaser
clear remnant
No it wouldn’t be
peak escarp
there's no set pattern for teases
but they usually only tease for about a week before a reveal, so we might get one more on Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday
silent nymph
Yeah, mon, wed and release on Thursday kind of makes sense
I wonder what it will be, it could throw us all off our tracks
silent nymph
What role do you lot want them to be?
I don't know what the current meta is so I'm not sure what would be best
peak escarp
I wonder if Nesskain will do the art for the origin trailer again
he's done the last 4
regal coyote
hope so
on Athena/Echo, they are not related at all in Lore
not to say they might not know each other
but they are not ever one, and not thre same thing.
Though in development yes Echo's body did borrow stickers from things like athena amongst other things. That was just a placeholder
worthy rose
I still stand by my theory that Echo will be a support based around shields, having a buffed version of symm's original E ability.
iron plume
original E or 2.0 E?
iron plume
so the thing they removed because it was boring micromanagement
worthy rose
The way I have it in my head is you can see those in your radius, and it will give you a number in the screen just like lucio and his aura, but pressing E gives all of them a buff of 50 shields lets say.
dapper shuttle
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/aukjky/paris_lore_i_found_unused_interactions_for_luna/ Hi. I found unused interactions for Luna in the game files. May contain traces of lore.
dapper shuttle
That's a slightly different one, the shooty shooty one is "Si vous continuez comme ça nous allons devoir vous demander de partir"
iron plume
aight
dapper shuttle
but it's roughly the same think, except the unused one implies that someone is giving her the stink eye
What do we think about Voss?
iron plume
there's two where she's insulted
one is about looking at her, the other just says to get out ree
I think the Voss stuff is chatter to fill out the idea about Omnics being the rebellious underclass
but it's likely that she is the leader of that gang
oh the lines on the mugshots aren't properly spaced, that's unfortunate
would be interesting to see if that "girl omnic" is 160
dapper shuttle
The fact that they have her name, height and that she's a suspect proves she's already known by the police
They have the mugshot of a female omnic at the station
she looks pissed.
iron plume
well i mean
who wouldn't in a mugshot
dapper shuttle
The others look way different, like they got beat up or like they're drunk (can omnics get drunk on fancy oil?)
did they get busted together?
Why is she in a bookstore
iron plume
idk they look pretty ticked off to me as well
maybe except the glasses one
as for bookstore, idk if it's a thing in France but in Russia they're pretty commonly associated with like
reformation/revolution movements
since they were commonly driven by the intelligentsia
Decembrists being the most obvious example
dapper shuttle
https://imgur.com/pyLFoXm so this is the defense spawn's table. With Moira's book on it (potential reuse of texture, i know i know)
https://imgur.com/pOchXkm if you get close, you'll notice a handprint of a hand pointing the index finger at something
https://imgur.com/YAABaDZ here's without the book
and here's the texture file of the table
Maybe she's at the bookstore because she infiltrated the gala at Maison Marat to steal a book and a human was reading it and it got ugly and he dieded and she escaped without the book cuz he fell on top of the book and
yeah okay this is insane but
there's a handprint pointing the finger at something.
So far all the other handprints I have found in the game have been of hands doing normal hand stuff, fingers spread and that's it
First time we find a finger pointing
regal coyote
@dapper shuttle since an omnic mask does not havemuch mobile feature i dont think it will doo much in terms of emotions
to assume that omnics in this case have emotion. Since we know some omnics are more simple.
Also of the five omnic mugshots it seems to delibearately feature different types of criminals.
you get your typical punk guy, a gansta from the hood, you get the rich criminal type (or pimp)
the other two i dont know
the female is a bit different from the others
also there is that "caped baldy"
is it a monk or a reference to our lord and savior Saitama from One Punch Man?
iron plume
the female fits the edgy cyberpunk revolutionary archetype
iron plume
and the monk the student rebel
regal coyote
true, edgy cyberpnk type maybe
monk mkes sense if there is a type of peaceful rebelion
is thinking gentleman thief like this guy
though srsly the anime version of his sucessor Lupin III is probably much more famous nowadays
Yes witha samurai sidekick, a mobster gunman and soem femme fatale shape shifting spy
cunning ledge
reminds me of the deadlock members in reunion
the varied character designs with a lot of effort put into them, but might never get expanded on
still impressive though
rustic light
It's good world building
Just like the Overwatch members that we will never see despite being in the original trailer
But that's when Overwatch was going more towards super heroes
Instead of armed forces
worthy rose
So what do we think? Teaser today? Reveal on the 28th?
rustic light
It's gonna be disappointing if it's 2 teasers like hammond
silent nymph
If they don't have one today, I riot
indigo dawn
limpid agate
There might be one
regal coyote
not everyone has to be playable
but knowing more about characters is still good
like athena
limpid agate
No guarantee the teaser is today
regal coyote
or the random gang grunts of ashe
limpid agate
What are you talking about
regal coyote
maybe give them actually names other than the triplets
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regal coyote
i am talking about it is nice lore and world building to have mroe info about characters even if theya re not playable ones
limpid agate
Other two are in there
regal coyote
only the triplets have names
limpid agate
Bars too
regal coyote
the omnic sniper dont have name
limpid agate
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limpid agate
Blizzcon
limpid agate
Who
limpid agate
Who
regal coyote
it is in one of the voicelines on the paris map
one of the five mroe readable lines
one is about an officer not getting contact
one about Voss
the other two is about hog/rat
"Suspect repéré dans la librairie Carpentier , Voss , Omniaque féminin de 1m60."
"Suspect sighted in the Carpentier bookstore , Voss , Female omnic , 5"3."
there is also a line about omnic resistance
and a line about an officer:
"Agent Bilodeau , répondez !"
"Agent Bilodeau , answer !"
rustic light
Other french player said it was "Vote"
Chu didn't correct it but he did correct this https://i.imgur.com/Nnz5CWU.png
worthy rose
"Voss"
fleet hatch
is this where we can post about the ARG thing?
peak escarp
ARG thing?
worthy rose
Paris is not an ARG
fleet hatch
the paris map/hero 30 arg thing
peak escarp
the Paris map isn't related to hero 30
fleet hatch
I found 2 stars on a base board hidden behind a soccer ball on the map. the only two stars like them in the whole map. weird, no?
peak escarp
those stars are a reference to Frances 2 World Cup wins
fleet hatch
that would make perfect sense
quasi siren
Mhm :/
limpid agate
Shame
quasi siren
Maybe they had to postpone the next teaser later in the day to make room for the comp announcement?
peak escarp
could still happen later
rustic light
Maybe there was a game breaking bug found right when they were ready to launch it and now the teasers are being post-poned
quasi siren
Blizzard is doing quite a shitty job hyping up the fan base though
rustic light
you say that but
they could tweet just "Cuerva" and suddenly everyone would be hyped again
quasi siren
Yea overwatch youtubers would make a field day out of it and extend it to a 10 min long vid explaining the origin of the name Cuerva
limpid agate
People are too distracted with impregnable doors
quasi siren
You're right
I don't think blizzard intended that but it is keeping the hype up a bit
peak escarp
people are too obsessed with teasers only happening at 11am
they have happened as early as 7am and as late as 5pm
peak escarp
the White Dome teaser was 5pm, Orisa's last teaser was 1pm
11am is the most common time, but it's not the only time
quasi siren
I do see the possibility of that happening only due to the possibility of them having to postpone it to a later hour due to the competitive announcement, but I'm not counting on it
rustic light
If we take official annoucements too
Bastion's Christmas epic skin was as late as 7 pm
They don't have a set time for anything so it's unpredictable
quasi siren
What was the longest gap between teasers/release?
limpid agate
20 minutes ago is a common time
It's not the only one
It's just the must frequent time for any announcements or patch
peak escarp
there was 6 days between Ana's teaser and her release
but the rest have been 2-3 days
quasi siren
Mm
silent nymph
is it usually this late?
they jsut posted about the end of the comp season so maybe itll be a few minutes
peak escarp
it's hard to predict
it could be in 10 minutes, it could be in 5 hours
it could be tomorrow
or there could only be one teaser
silent nymph
it will probably happen when im asleep
i will probably be up until midnight waiting to see if it happens
maybe they are preparing the servers and want to make sure they are ready for the update?
im jumping too far ahead aren't it. im just hyped
peak escarp
understandable
dapper shuttle
Have we talked about the korean tweets about Paris?
peak escarp
what do they say?
dense gazelle
I think that Paris is the new Uprising event map
hushed lily
oooo
swift blaze
That would be cool
jagged sparrow
IT IS PROBABLY
peak escarp
why?
swift blaze
Idk they might not release anything new
dense gazelle
idk
hushed lily
So far no one has found the supposed secret room in paris?
swift blaze
Man cant believe it has almost been a year since rialto
dense gazelle
I did
hushed lily
Did you actually? I haven't seen anything online about it
peak escarp
there is no secret room
dense gazelle
Bc it's a Secret
hushed lily
dapper shuttle
limpid agate
pretty sure its just fluff from whoever runs the Twitter channel
swift blaze
Maybe they added a secret room to a different map with the addition of paris
swift blaze
Eh just an idea
hushed lily
The article released covering paris said to search paris, i wouldn't think so
limpid agate
There is no secret room
swift blaze
Who knows
limpid agate
This isn't the first time people did this
swift blaze
No need to fight about it
limpid agate
It happened eith Blizzard world
hushed lily
There is a secret room. We datamined map files to see inside. But its empty
peak escarp
this is all going over your heads
limpid agate
It happened with Doradi
And Ilios
And Horizon
And Lijiang
To varying extremes
dense gazelle
@hushed lily Im about to go Pairs so i will look for it and if i do will send it to you
swift blaze
There is nothing there guys lol
quasi siren
You won't find anything, don't wasre your time
hushed lily
Alright. Some people speculate that the room is empty until a player triggers the door to open but honestly i think this is all just a wild goose chase @dense gazelle
limpid agate
What about the Greek signboard on Dorado in front of the bakery. That's definitely a Sombra clue
quasi siren
Definitely
limpid agate
This is far from the fitst time the community went crazy over this
quasi siren
You guys should bake cookies and play overwatch something will definitely happen
hushed lily
You may be on to something nemmy
limpid agate
- Bastion had a binary trigger on Dorado. Discovered the hour it was added to the gamr
-Junkertown had a secret room. Discocered the hour it was added to the game
quasi siren
Players are very smart they wouldve found something by now
limpid agate
Paris has been here for 4 weeks now
swift blaze
I still think the new hero will be someone from the los mertos gang
woven flare
I want a secret room, but Rusalvia and Nemmy are right
limpid agate
Los Muertos has nothing to do with anything in that teaser we got.
quasi siren
Where did you get that theory Ashley?
dense gazelle
you know there is a Mag shot of Hog and Junk in pairs
iron plume
mugshot
and yes
dense gazelle
Thanks Party
dapper shuttle
IF there is a secret section of the map, it hasn't been added yet, we shouldn't be focusing on that, plenty more clues to go insane over
limpid agate
Agreed
quasi siren
Yup
restive flower
Was there a new teaser
limpid agate
No
quasi siren
Nope
restive flower
Wtf
quasi siren
Mhm
woven flare
Junker queen or echo are what im rooting for 
hushed lily
@limpid agate has anyone converted bastions binary trigger on dorado to text yet?
limpid agate
Still 4 more days in the week plus half of today
@hushed lily Years ago in the arg.
quasi siren
I do think a los muertos character would be cool but not next hero
quasi siren
Why is everyone so hyped about the junkerqueen? I don't find anything special with her. I mean yes she is the leader of Junkertown but she kinda bores me.
limpid agate
She is a mech champion with a casual punk rock design
peak escarp
her design is what interests me
limpid agate
Also some people like two other parts of her
woven flare
Depends how they pulled it off-she could be promising, or she could be a blatant copy
quasi siren
Faiiiir enough
iron plume
it's the spear and the mech isn't it
quasi siren
100%
dapper shuttle
I like that she wears omnic masks as kneepads
What do we think about the female omnic suspect in the bookstore, Voss?
rustic light
Junkerqueen is
a huge lady
how can you not love her
Also she had a spear and something else I think
was it like an axe?
peak escarp
the internet will hate her because she's not a black lady
sacred hamlet
Oh no not the australians in my videogame
rustic light
eh I've seen a lot of support for her
sacred hamlet
Are we really really in desperate need of a black lady
rustic light
Ashe was a different case because she was unexpected
Well, Overwatch advertised itself for being diverse
had that not been the case....
sacred hamlet
I mean, they have been
peak escarp
having a black woman is not mandatory for diversity
it's not a set of checkboxes
the game is still by far the most diverse game I've played
sacred hamlet
I also don't get what's the definition of a black lady for these people
peak escarp
they mean a woman of African descent with dark skin
rustic light
Black woman of african descent
Orisa and Symmetra are not that, neither Ana or Pharah or Sombra, etc
sacred hamlet
So it could be North America, European, African
peak escarp
Ana/Pharah are women of Arabic descent with medium skin
Symmetra is a woman of Indian descent with dark skin
Orisa is an African omnic
sacred hamlet
I still see Orisa as a black lady in my heart
rustic light
Yeah but a black woman playing isn't gonna connect and feel represented by Orisa like other players can with other characters
quasi siren
Pretty sure Doomfist is an independent black lady from Africa.
peak escarp
ha ha
sacred hamlet
If he wanted to
rustic light
didn't "independent woman" jokes die like 3 years ago
sacred hamlet
My biggest pro with OW diversity is the Hero per region
NA and SA are kinda getting the low end of the stick
and to make things worse they make another cowboy for NA
sacred hamlet
Oceania wouldn't be the junkers right
rustic light
I believe McCree and Gabe have latino background but Sombra and Lucio would be the SA ones
sacred hamlet
also who's the fifth hero on NA
peak escarp
Mexico is in NA
iron plume
Mexico isn't south america
peak escarp
not SA
rustic light
Ah completely forgot
peak escarp
NA is McCree, Soldier, Reaper, Ashe, Sombra
rustic light
Meant Latin America in my head
iron plume
there's nothing suggesting Cree is Latino
rustic light
what
quasi siren
Overwatch is so rascist. How come we haven't had a white Canadian character.
worthy rose
Cree just tan af
rustic light
Oh boy I'm not even gonna bother with the mccree thing here
iron plume
because you don't have any actual arguments?
quasi siren
Is Gabe really Latino? I thought he was black
worthy rose
If the base of ur argument is that he was in mexico during the new years comic that is a poor argument
rustic light
Party you disappear when your arguments are contradicted by someone else so don't even talk
peak escarp
is it "cowboys were historically indian/black/latino"?
iron plume
lmao what
peak escarp
is it "he speaks Spanish"?
iron plume
log in your eye much?
peak escarp
these are the arguments I've heard people make when saying McCree is latino and/or native
quasi siren
Doesn't it say the characters race/nationality on the overwatch site?
iron plume
nationality yes
peak escarp
it says nationality
iron plume
but McCree's nationality is american
peak escarp
race is different
quasi siren
Okay I didn't know if it shared both or only one
peak escarp
Reyes is suspected to be latino based on Reyes being a common latino name, plus he has latino features
it's unconfirmed, but likely to be true
people also cherry pick colour values from McCree's skin to show how "dark" he is, but skin isn't a single colour - you have to view it as a whole
iron plume
and also his hat is still bugged and casts an anti-shadow
peak escarp
and McCree in particular has been drawn with wildly different skin colours by every artist
iron plume
so does ashe's
peak escarp
that too
rustic light
McCree's skin color is interesting
iron plume
tanning is indeed very interesting
rustic light
Unlike for example mei's reference picture
McCree's official skin color is not defined
quasi siren
What
rustic light
There are codes for color in the reference sheets given by blizzard
for example McCree's eye is a brown color code
peak escarp
iron plume
most heroes don't have skin colors defined in reference kits
rustic light
Yet in-game, McCree's model has blue gray eyes
iron plume
Pharah doesn't, Mercy doesn't, Junk doesn't
rustic light
inconsistent
quasi siren
He's tan, he lives in Midwest wtf
iron plume
he lives in the southwest
quasi siren
Thanks for the correction
peak escarp
if you go by his official lineart, he looks much paler
iron plume
Hanzo doesn't, Tracer doesn't
peak escarp
quasi siren
I knew I said something wrong about the location
iron plume
The only ones with skin color code are Zarya, D.va and Mei
wait, soldier too
so it's an exception rather than the rule
worthy rose
I do genuinely wonder about Sombra's outfit
like McCree looks like your average cow boy and Reaper looks like the scary edge lord but Sombra's big.... idk what to call that
iron plume
if you're going by stereotypes sombra's pretty close to the cyberpunk neon trenchcoat warrior
peak escarp
McCree is also based on Hollywood cowboys like Clint Eastwood and famous "Mexican" Charlton Heston
worthy rose
would that be a trench coat?
like genuinely wondering cause i've never seen anything resembling that
fringe blade
Can I link a reddit post? There are some interesting, potential info
Its not related to this tho
worthy rose
just say what it is
iron plume
it is
fringe blade
Its a couple of leaked voicelines by Cabaret Luna, I believe
iron plume
here's a first-page result for "cyberpunk trench coat"
bright colors aside it's pretty close
fringe blade
I didnt have time to read it fully, i am busy atm
iron plume
it's been posted here already but you can post again if you want to point something out
Sombra's is shorter than a typical trenchcoat but it's definitely that style
worthy rose
ooooh how she has voicelines with omnic heroes?
iron plume
especially the collar
worthy rose
I don't get the point of the collar, like from a utility perspective and field perspective wouldn't that like get in the way?
iron plume
well the in-universe cyberpunk thing is that it obscures your face
realistically it's rule of cool
clever flame
Overwatch lore progression is about as likely as an African esports league
worthy rose
It's still in the setup phase
Progression will happen after they've introduced and developed the main characters
everything in this channel
peak escarp
the Paris thing that everyone is going nuts over
that's lore
the Talon letter teasing the next hero
clever flame
There's 29 in game characters
peak escarp
that's lore too
clever flame
And even more that aren't in game
worthy rose
30 characters if you count bob
peak escarp
the story has progressed about a year past Recall
clever flame
And a few stories that happen at the same time as recall
worthy rose
We might still be missing some key characters
clever flame
@peak escarp no it hasnt
peak escarp
not much has happened, but that's how far the timeline goes
clever flame
@peak escarp tell me what has happened
worthy rose
Moira was half out of nowhere, but she might be responsible for the downfall of Overwatch
Recall has happened
clever flame
There's mei and mccree that got called out, but that is just after the recall
clever flame
The mccree cinematic is just after recall
peak escarp
Recall
Old Soldiers
Infiltration (happens in November)
Reflections (happens in December)
Masquerade (happens in February)
Searching (happens after Masquerade)
worthy rose
Infiltration and Searching are the biggest examples of plot progression
peak escarp
I'd count Masquerade as providing a lot of plot progression
worthy rose
On second thought, you're right
peak escarp
it updated Talon to its current power scheme
worthy rose
Consolidation of Talon power > Sombra getting rekt
clever flame
Don't even remember the comics anymore
worthy rose
The links are pinned
clever flame
They didn't put out one comic last year
Not even the shitty event ones that are like 4 pages long
clever flame
Doesn't say it on the website
worthy rose
It's only been two years since release. I'd only say something's wrong if they don't continue with the comics this year.
peak escarp
doesn't say what on the website?
clever flame
I mean ur true but I'd expect at least one proper one per year at the minimum
worthy rose
They literally said taking a break
clever flame
And even the "full sized" comics don't really show that much either
worthy rose
You expect them to make more while taking a break?
peak escarp
they're hardl full-sized comics
clever flame
@worthy rose why does a triple a company need to "take a break"
Al hogugh of course there are the employee cuts
worthy rose
Probably don't want to put out bad comics
peak escarp
they're 10 pages
worthy rose
And the cuts were in advertising, if I remember correctly
clever flame
Exactly
worthy rose
Would you prefer a bunch of rushed, poorly written comics?
clever flame
@worthy rose the comics are basically bad anyway
They're so short even the so called long ones
worthy rose
Wait, now you're saying they're bad?
peak escarp
if you're just going to badmouth the lore, why are you even in this channel?
worthy rose
I thought you wanted more of them.
peak escarp
go back to general
clever flame
I said basically bad because they don't really give anything
worthy rose
Apart from progressing the plot like you wanted
worthy rose
Yes, so?
clever flame
It continues the sombra storyline but not the main onr
peak escarp
lean prawn
almost like having multiple story threads makes the world feel lived in and alive
iron plume
...how
peak escarp
how is it not a proper comic?
worthy rose
idk
iron plume
is it not a proper comic
peak escarp
it was written by Chu, it's part of the story
worthy rose
Ask the person who said it
peak escarp
it's not present day, but neither is Uprising
peak escarp
not that kind of Uprising
silent nymph
Anyone else constantly checking back on twitter for some kind of teaser?
silent nymph
Struggle to see baptiste in the hero roster
peak escarp
Baptiste had a more detailed description
silent nymph
Like how Hammond is actually called wrecking ball
Well if the letter was from a few months before, cuerva could have been killed / kidnapped by baptiste or cuerva got to him and doesn't want to return in fear of the consequences of what they've done
I'm so confused as to what hero 30 could be
signal prawn
guys
i discovered something
near a the "we are watching" door on paris there is a lcuio ball
ifd you hit it it reveals two atrs
stars*
on the wall
i cant find stars on any other wall on paris
blissful cairn
Hero 30 is the zen look alike from paris
warped glen
Quick everyone try every voice line on that door
keen parrot
Apparently D. Va Livestreams her battles in overwatch
So every time i die to her people around the world that are not related see me die, die, die
warped glen
He might mean echo
peak escarp
Echo isn't from Paris
warped glen
Nvm lmao
Try every voice line on the door
He is "hero 30"
Hey doctor six I got the hex down really far
warped glen
I got baptiste `Ywa
wanton spoke
peak escarp
they figured out the hex code like 10 minutes after it was posted
warped glen
I know I tried a lot of other things though
Also the year blacked out in the letter has 212121 under it
March 6th?
warped glen
2+1=3 so 3/ then add the others and you get 6 so 3/6
Photoshop doctor it has something under it
peak escarp
March 6 is a Wednesday
and a week from now
the longest they have gone between first teaser and final reveal is 9 days
the only significant date we have is March 19
warped glen
It's just my opinion
peak escarp
there's no number under the blacked out year
on the whole,the community is smart - if there were any secrets, someone would have found it by now
sacred hamlet
If there were any secrets at all, people would've found that shit in the first 2 hours.
My theory is still on the Map becoming relevant near Hero's 31 release
if it doesn't involve Echo of course
at least I hope it doesn't and she ends up releasing next year instead
warped glen
Anyone see that the year looks like the inkblot test
magic blaze
give zenyatta lore @ Blizzard
warped glen
He has lore
brisk harbor
Blizzard lore team is shit so we r never getting zen lore
warped glen
Can anyone install programs on their pc?
tepid abyss
Ask in general @warped glen
molten willow
I have a few ideas on the new hero but not enought info
But i feel like dat document could be number 2 out of a few
the roman numerals probs mark paragraphs and theres a few missing
chilly peak
loud harness
LETS GOOOOOOO
mental carbon
very exciting
loud harness
Too nice for Talon tbh
molten willow
Lucios coming back as someone else yay
loud harness
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
gusty fjord
with a tub of healing in a grenade launcher
vernal gyro
HE HOT
turbid arrow
he looks weird
loud harness
Lucio who?
quasi siren
O wow
worthy rose
Oh crap
molten willow
so thats 3 now
gusty fjord
OH SNAP
molten willow
lol
gusty fjord
HAHAHAH
molten willow
already
last inlet
Just checking in y'all
Can't believe we accidentally called him Baptiste and that's just his call sign
sacred hamlet
He's fucking badass
valid shell
WELL THAT WAS FAST.
Man, Americans really only know how to give their black dudes buzz-cuts or high-and-tights.
sacred hamlet
@valid shell Caribbean black lady from Haiti by the way
Guy is a full DPS Healer Hybrid straight from
Africa I think
do we know where he's from
molten willow
ik
limpid agate
I posted it there 5 minutes ago
valid shell
Calling it now, the black female hero will have an afro.
sacred hamlet
As all have
sacred hamlet
well
we're probably not getting one a while though right
so maybe in 2021 who knows
shell stream
his gun has two triggers. One healing, one damage?
valid shell
Is Baptiste wearing modified Talon armor?
dire timber
it's neat how we now know more about the Omnic Crisis and about Talon, though
sacred hamlet
do we
valid shell
He's drawing some Star Wars Finn parallels.
dire timber
in that we finally have some sort of confirmation that the Omnic Crisis lasted at least several years
sacred hamlet
I just paid attention to his cool voice to be honest
dire timber
and now we know that Talon saw its rise in its aftermath
valid shell
So now we have three (3) Talon councilmen and three (3) Talon operatives.
One operative a mindslave, another tenuously loyal, and another defected.
sacred hamlet
who's tenuously loyal again
brazen flare
when will he be relesed on ptr
brazen flare
dont they useally out the new charecter on the ptr soon after revealing it
like i know ashe was sorta a special case
but she was on fairly sharpish
sacred hamlet
they've always released PTR characters in march hours later I think
brazen flare
aslong as its not more than 5 hours i can try and get some time in on him tonight
sacred hamlet
wow what a manly man
brazen flare
if not i will have to wait for tommorow
brazen flare
were
worthy rose
found it on twitter. @gematsucom
worthy rose
o and stylosa also posted it
brazen flare
so i have no idea what is gonna make his unique
shell stream
the video on youtube has a better look at him at the end
brazen flare
i really wish they relesed an ability run down with his rveeal trialer
valid shell
His meta implications isn't a discussion to have here tho.
worthy rose
do we know who the voice actor is yet?
sacred hamlet
actual Demoman andy
Now I wanna see his abilitie
his letter clearly depicted a DPS Healer
shell stream
two triggers... so maybe alt fires health packs?
sacred hamlet
seems like this is what we're getting
Yep like I predicted days ago
He drops healthpacks
and has ammunition types
Remind me in 2 hours when he is released on PTR
that's a 100%
also wanna see what his relationship with the other talon members is
unfortunately Blizz maybe fuck up again and not have them prepared for another 6 months