Or protect me
#lore-discussion
sacred hamlet
nocturne rune
i save people all the time
sacred hamlet
Or peel for me
nocturne rune
im gold 4head
peak escarp
regardless
sacred hamlet
In fact I also wouldn't call Hammond a tank either
prisma wren
whut
nocturne rune
so what would he be considered?
peak escarp
prisma wren
definetly not dps
nocturne rune
yes we know that hes a tank
prisma wren
and not healer
sacred hamlet
that's what blizzard things
And Blizzard is wrong about a lot of things remember that
prisma wren
blizzard made the game............
sacred hamlet
Hog and Hammonds are just considered Tanks because there's literally no other main role they thinkt
the important thing is Sub-Roles
prisma wren
can we move on?
nocturne rune
i consider reaper a healer
sacred hamlet
If your tank's a moron, sure.
prisma wren
healers heal other people
peak escarp
sub-roles don't exist
peak escarp
discussing the other members of Deadlock
sacred hamlet
So yeah
peak escarp
Bars and the triplets
nocturne rune
there's alot more than bars and the triplets
sacred hamlet
Let's pretend Ashe never happened and add the Triplets as an apology gift
nocturne rune
so there could be a backround character that hasnt been teased yet
sacred hamlet
Bars gets to be an NPC or something who cares about him
peak escarp
why do you hate Ashe so much?
prisma wren
whos bars?
sacred hamlet
She just showed up out of nowhere, copied McCree's homework and replaced Bob and the Triplets
And yeah she's boring
Compared to Moira
sacred hamlet
Which was a goddamn mistake I tell ya
Everyone would loved the Triplets
Unless they turned out to be some cancerous niche hero
nocturne rune
how would the triplets work tho
prisma wren
the triplets would add nothing lore wise
prisma wren
ashe gave us some background on mccree
sacred hamlet
What does Misses Ashe here add to the story
Ok she's McCree's sweetheart
she's McCree's sweetheart
sacred hamlet
and she's so whiny she ran away from her parents to gang bang
peak escarp
but it's more than nothing
sacred hamlet
that's her character
vocal pine
They weren't together, Michael Chu confirmed that.
sacred hamlet
and by gangbang I mean shoplifting 'cause that's what edgy teenagers like Ashe do
nocturne rune
im confused why would bob be her ult, and not a seperate character
sacred hamlet
Because you either have Bob or Ashe
sacred hamlet
and I personally think Bob works better as an Ult to Ashe that a separate character to her
yeah we could have had Bob instead
and it would've been better
nocturne rune
ashe be the ult
peak escarp
Bob has no character
sacred hamlet
but shit let's make McCree 2.0 and be done with it I guess
peak escarp
he's literally a prop for Ashe
sacred hamlet
Racism against Omnics
Really putting up that Torb cosplay pal'
I'll have you know a lot of people love Bastion
nocturne rune
and the other half hate him
sacred hamlet
bob or bastion
peak escarp
Bob
nocturne rune
bob
sacred hamlet
that's fine
Words are overrated anyways
Nothing that a mute robot can't do to warm a person's heart
nocturne rune
alot of people hate the bastion orisa combo
peak escarp
your complaint about Ashe is that she has no personality - so how would Bob be better?
white cobalt
...
prisma wren
...
peak escarp
wow
nocturne rune
do we have an omnic tank?
sacred hamlet
Excuse me
sacred hamlet
I just really don't like what she has to say
peak escarp
that just came off as incredibly sexist, that's all
sacred hamlet
Brigitte and Moira are much more charistmatic if you as kme
Yeah I know but don't take it in the wrong way
it's a personal thing
I just really don't find Ashe as appealing as Blizzard saw her
McCree worked fine by himself
sacred hamlet
Are you sure
vocal pine
I'm more indifferent to her than anything, but she's fun to play.
sacred hamlet
I think a lot of people just like hearing her shout "BOB DO SOMETHING Pepega 👉 🤖 "
And then comes Bob which everyone loves
nocturne rune
i literally have 4 minutes on her and that was in mystery heros
nocturne rune
loves?
sacred hamlet
But I'm sure the community is split up on liking her or not
nocturne rune
when i hear bob do sum im like oh fuck oh shit
sacred hamlet
Oh no she pressed Q and the game is over what a mess
sacred hamlet
To what
nocturne rune
i play squishies like tracer and genji and it scares me
sacred hedge
I have a friend who likes Bob but he doesn't like Ashe. Though I dont like Ashe much either
worthy rose
what are we talking about here
sacred hamlet
Characters
nocturne rune
how messed up of a character ashe is
prisma wren
he dont like ashe
worthy rose
oof
sacred hamlet
Okay let's make things clear
worthy rose
that is very true
sacred hamlet
Ashe is not that bad
sacred hedge
neither do I sooo
worthy rose
she is not good
sacred hamlet
Like seriously
compare Ashe to Kai'sa from LoL
now that's a fucking disaster
ashe is just fine
but I would preferred anything over her
worthy rose
i like mystery or limited duel
you get to experience new characters but in a 1v1
not in a 6v6
prisma wren
this is not lore related
peak escarp
about hero teasers - there's no pattern to what time of day they come out, except that they always come out at the top of the hour (11:00 am seems the most common, but 1:00 pm and 5:00 PM are also common)
(all times PST)
I have notifications for the PlayOverwatch twitter account turned on and every time I get a notification I check the time just in case
sacred hamlet
Why so desperate for teasers
Just let 'em happen
Just let Junkerqueen happen
'Cause she will happen.
nocturne rune
yes
peak escarp
because teasers give us something to talk about
sacred hamlet
You know you could always leave Lore Cave and go to the other channels
While Blizzard takes 3 months to release something of relevancy to Lore
sacred hamlet
Wow, cold.
peak escarp
lore is the only thing I'm here for
sacred hamlet
That sounds like torture to me
'Cause you know
1 comic a year and stuff
But again ARCHIVES coming soon
Finally a reason to enjoy this game
dawn knot
but it's heaven when something does come out
then you can donate the next few nights to mulling over how exactly everything fits all over again
peak escarp
we get new lore with every hero, and sometimes with maps
and comics are coming back soon, so that's something to look forward to
sacred hamlet
Holy shit then I actually really feel bad for you
Something something Brigitte, Hammond and Ashe bring literally nothing to the story
Paris is literally irrelevant to anything
wary osprey
...
sacred hamlet
Busan is a map I guess
peak escarp
no, but they did add worldbuilding to the universe
sacred hamlet
At least there's that
peak escarp
Brigitte's release told us more about Reinhardt and Torbjorn's friendship, and revealed that Mercy is a family friend of the Lindholms
peak escarp
Hammond's release told us that the scientists on Horizon worked on more than just apes, and finally answered the question of who Hammond was (and who Wrecking Ball was, but most people didn't even know Wrecking Ball existed)
Ashe's release told us that McCree was more than just a gang member - he was a gang founder
they may be drops of water, but when you're parched a drop is like an ocean
peak escarp
exception?
sacred hamlet
They just brought him with the gorillas 'cause they just said fuck it and decided to do tests on him
dawn knot
what is the "story" even like, doesn't everyone contribute to everything
it's just chunks of life from everyone
sacred hamlet
I mean is there any proof that there's any other animals there being tested
peak escarp
in the Dev update when Wrecking Ball was released Jeff said they worked on other animals
sacred hamlet
It's just bits of backgrounds that Blizzard left behind with Character's backstories
peak escarp
but that's Jeff, so who knows
sacred hamlet
At least it wasn't Chu
peak escarp
if Chu said it I would be more confident
he is the one who writes the lore after all
sacred hamlet
As far as I know Jeff is the one claiming everything is "super confident"
"Very misterious"
Will happen in the future so be hyped and stuff
Just seems like some sorry excuse that they'll only release 3 bits of lore this year and keep everything under "confident" like always
Even after they said they'd start working more on lore this year
Which appears to be the case with Bastet
But always be skeptical with Blizzard
sacred hamlet
Be very afraid is the way to go about it
Either way if OW ends up dying next year or something you can always just transition to Apex Legends and see where that thing goes
But that's irrelevant to this very Secretive Channel
So yeah hope we get something good for Archives
peak escarp
I have no interest in Apex
peak escarp
just not interested
sacred hamlet
Fair enough
worthy rose
||birg is made by the goverment to spy on us||
dawn knot
what'd be super crazy is
if overwatch was going under
they just released
all the lore at once
like a blowout sale at some closing store
like i may prefer a scenario like that
brisk harbor
If it takes them 2 years to announce that 1 character is gay I highly doubt that will happen
peak escarp
it took them 3 years to announce that Ana was married
why doesn't anyone ever bring that up?
sacred hamlet
Because you can't make baby if you're not married
That's what some people say though
peak escarp
granite gazelle
...
sacred hamlet
I'm sorry did I say something wrong
white cobalt
...
peak escarp
my point is, there's a lot of things they've waited 3 years to tell
they still haven't told us why the Swiss HQ blew up or why the omnic crisis started or who Liao is (or if Liao is even relevant anymore)
we don't know every single detail about the lore, so saying they waited 3 years to tell us some insignificant detail is pointless
sacred hamlet
Well the significance does depend on the person.
It's obvious there's plenty of people who are happy about Soldier's representation of the LGBT community or something
and some aren't happy that Soldier turned gay on the spot
peak escarp
he didn't "turn gay"
sacred hamlet
It's a pretty tricky detail to reveal after 4 years of thinking that this character was you know
Straight
Homosexual characters aren't a problem
It 's just the way they choose to reveal these details that can affect some people
peak escarp
it's their fault for assuming he was straight
sacred hamlet
In the same way that the LGBT community loves the fact that Tracer is gay and is representing their group
Some people also enjoyed Soldier being straight
in a way of relating to him more
you have to understand both sides of the coin here
The straight community not being a minority doesn't mean they don't have the rights to feel
bamboozled
By what occurred with soldier
This is why you make it clear what your character is, what it thinks and what it represents right off the bat
Examples would be Gibraltar and Bloodhound from Apex Legends
One being gay and the other non-binary
People are fine with it
Others with a nerve against these communities aren't
And I'd call that ignorant and the other term I forgot
limpid agate
Can we go one day without this conversation
sacred hamlet
I'm not the one who brought it up so I'm just gonna walk away slowly
fair widget
🥵
limpid agate
@fair widget Do you have something to add?
tawny patio
Apex is also not driven by its’ characters’ narratives in the same way OW is
Yes they all have their own story history personality etc but no that isn’t looking to be the key of the game’s narrative while OW is a character driven narrative
Assuming they even do more narratively with Apex
OW focuses in on our characters, their stories, what they are doing, why they are doing then the world
Apex focuses on the contest, the world, etc, then the characters
valid shell
tf are you always talking about a game that isn't OW, scoots
sacred hamlet
Yes
Really adds to the charm, don't it
Still I made my point while focusing on OW
So I'm clean 🙂 👍
worthy rose
This is where Transgender and non binary come in;
Bisexuality is an attraction to men and women;
Pansexuality is an attraction to literally anyone regardless of gender identity or whatever that come along with it.
peak escarp
what does this have to do with Overwatch?
worthy rose
that's my understanding of it anyway
peak escarp
it's likely to be in the morning
only Brigitte had her first teaser come in the evening
dire timber
@peak escarp I didn't know where "Sombra gave McCree info on Echo's location" came from
but I forgot that one
it seems very plausible now
worthy rose
Sombra has a finger in all the pies
final tide
I love overwitch
regal coyote
so no 30 yet
also, it is understandable for the "76 turn gay" comment, for those who take the whole dad76 thing seriously.
I mean, peopel should knwo that is a meme from the get go
But yeah, there is nothing about 76 on his private life pior to the picture really, "turning" would be something like suddenly "torby decide to be addresssed as she"
worthy rose
meh
I more so got a lot of questions about the atire of some of the people
Like why does soldier canonically wear a jacket with the numbers 76. I know it's like an america thing and nod to stuff but I just wanna know or why Sombra wears the outfit that she does since practicality in the field seems very idk weird
regal coyote
@worthy rose he is number 76, just like gabe is 24
so yeah in a way Jack is also edgy af
it is like Gabe is HotTopic and Jack is Spencers
pliant epoch
i still wonder if that girl in the 76 trailer is sombra
iron plume
she isn't
pliant epoch
i know but what if is was
worthy rose
They absolutely could not
In no way
Shape or form
I know he was soldier 76 but why would he care for keeping that number
The soldier 76 trailer, her name is alejandra, sombra’s real name is Olivia. Also sombra does seem to potentially have a tie to the bakery that Alejandra’s family runs. But she just seems to personally care for dorado itself
So eh
valid shell
@pliant epoch Incorrect.
Sombra's an orphan.
Alejandra's mother is very much alive.
peak escarp
people have theorized that Sombra was adopted by the bakery owner, and Alejandra is her foster sister
based on her line about wanting to stop by the bakery
it's a long shot, but it's possible
pliant epoch
see he gets it
runic lodge
76 confirmed gae
bronze ermine
I still don’t get that choice
regal coyote
one thing we know is that Aj most likely have met Sombra. And Sombra at least frequent the bakery.
though personally i am kinda disappointed Aj for being a lil snitch (granted she is only a kid so cant expect much)
I mean, relative to the locals Zarya would be a strange and shady character to day the least. I mean someone not local, running around town shaking up things trying to search for someone, not normal. red flag.
That, and coupled with sombra being sort of on the helpful side of the alrea townfolks, at least recentlyly, means that as we see not many people would be talking.
Aj should have known better...
that though, maybe, even Aj was fed some info from sombra?
I mean Sombra was waiting for Zarya and her pet robot . (though she is a bit too cocky, or was she?)
peak escarp
Alé was just influenced by seeing Soldier in action and wanted to be a hero herself
so when Zarya dropped the magic H word, she snitched
pliant epoch
he is right''
iron plume
idk considering how snarky sombra was meeting Zarya it might have been intentional from her
but I'd buy the hero theory
peak escarp
it's possible that Sombra gave Alé her location and told her to tell Zarya where she was, but Alé voluntarily gave up Sombra's name too
mortal marten
mhmm
iron plume
...not how that works
pliant epoch
i know
iron plume
then don't say it
pliant epoch
so what should we talk about
iron plume
if you know it's not true
pliant epoch
i know its not
iron plume
apparently not
magic zealot
Looks like some small lore or build-up towards the new hero
can anyone translate the thing at the bottom?
pretty sure its in hex or something
last inlet
Time for our annual trip into lore-d
last inlet
Well, at least this time, you know what to expect
magic zealot
not even sure if its gonna be an ARG
lunar latch
last inlet
One puzzle
magic zealot
could just be something useless at the bottom for the sake of "hakker"
peak escarp
Jean-Baptiste Augustin, former Talon medic
could be a red herring like Emre Sarioglu
lunar latch
"Pacanowsky" who dis? I'm confused
peak escarp
could be Captain Cuerva, the one who wrote the letter
magic zealot
I'm gonna write down the hex decimals things
fierce isle
God i really hope this is leading to something more than a new hero.
lunar latch
It's D. Cuerva
fierce isle
Maybe an Archives event?
magic zealot
F7 7F 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 1C 00 00 00 FF FF FF 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 B8 EE 87 14 F7 7F 00 00 42 61 70 74 69 73 74 65 00 60 59 77 41 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AD ED 69 FF CE 01 00 00 99 67 87 14 F7 7F 00 00 30 0A 85 17F7 7F 00 00 FC 23
thats what the bottom of the twitter video says
limpid agate
magic zealot
that ^
lunar latch
Trung Le Nguyen, F. Mcmanaway, Jean-Baptiste Augustin, Pacanowsky, Mazzei and Doubleday are the 'new' guys
last inlet
Lotta empty space in that code
magic zealot
yeaah, alot of 00's
last inlet
Maybe it's a visual thing
worthy rose
knows how to hack
lunar latch
I put it in a Binary translator and got: ���� ��!� ��
magic zealot
yeah its not binary
last inlet
Lmao
magic zealot
what could it even be
last inlet
Maybe just a link
limpid agate
Looks like a new healer
magic zealot
where do you see that 👀
last inlet
That's like the one thing they said about Baptiste
magic zealot
o
limpid agate
I’ve never known a medic to be such a good shot, and his adaptability to new situations is a rare talent.
last inlet
If it's him, yeah. And with them mentioning the fact that he's a combat medic, or something like that
peak escarp
New names:
Trung Le Nguyen, Talon senior analyist
F. MacManaway, Talon member
Captain D. Cuerva, Talon team captain
Jean-Baptiste Augustin, former Talon medic
Pacanowsky, Talon agent
Mazzei, Talon agent
Doubleday, Talon agent
magic zealot
we need someone that heals through punching teammates
limpid agate
Sounds like Cuerva and co. are dead
limpid agate
They are MIA
dire timber
hmmm, new lore drops?
peak escarp
and from the video clip in the Tweet
dire timber
also, remember who told you that the next event is a Talon event? 👀
peak escarp
limpid agate
But here you go. You get Baptiste, you get a new Talon healer, and then you can have a Talon event with him/WIdow/Sombra/DF
limpid agate
Archives event is called Meltdown?
peak escarp
or the hero is called Meltdown
worthy rose
A talon healer?
lunar latch
Maybe a new recurring event?
dire timber
@peak escarp Venice incident was teased with Moira's release
peak escarp
I'm not saying the event won't be Talon
last inlet
Release thought-to-be-dead Talon medic, then later have the Archive. Wouldn't be too farfetched.
peak escarp
I'm just saying the teaser isn't a teaser for Archives
dire timber
@limpid agate I used to think Moira would be the healer
limpid agate
That would cause repitition
worthy rose
Calling a healer "Meltdown" seems kind of ominous
limpid agate
Which is why I didnt think it was a great idea
last inlet
I know they won't do it but what if they let the archive event be 6 player for all the new Talon heroes? Assuming it is a Talon hero
dire timber
but with a new Talon healer, she's definitely getting shelved
limpid agate
@last inlet What do you mean
Cuerva, Pacanowsky, Mazzei, and Doubleday are MIA
They're not working with Baptiste here
last inlet
The standard 4 does allow for completely new lineup
peak escarp
also, there's a Sombra image in the tweet, so safe to assume she's the one leaking this
limpid agate
They're reporting the aftermath
last inlet
Don't worry, I didn't mean them, and it's not important
worthy rose
@limpid agate Can you please tell me how u know of melt down cause besides the talon thing on twitter i'm not seeing anything
peak escarp
Jean-Baptiste Augustin . . . sounds like a French/Creole name . . . possibly Haitian?
lunar latch
Accurately translated that weird text, got: F7 7F 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 1C 00 00 00 FF FF FF 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 BB EE 87 14 F7 7F 00 00 42 61 70 74 69 73 74 65 00 60 59 77 41 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A0 E0 69 FF CE 01 00 00 99 67 87 14 F7 7F 00 00 30 0A 85 17F7 7F 00 00 FC 22
limpid agate
Probably
peak escarp
the mission described in the letter is in Haiti, yeah
worthy rose
the code?
last inlet
That'd be neat
worthy rose
that's a message in haiti?
last inlet
Haitian creole in our OW?
limpid agate
In the mess of trash
last inlet
That's the first thing I noticed too
worthy rose
I would have assumed vietnamese since Nguyen is a very common vietnamese last name
I say this cause i am vietnamese descent
last inlet
In my head
worthy rose
never met a filipino with the last name nguyen
worthy rose
you think that's like
her promoting the game in general
or if she has a hand in this?
magic zealot
yeah, either shes tweeting it because she works with the game or symmetra is somehow involved in this
peak escarp
probably just promoting the game
limpid agate
!!loreText
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Oslo Attack: https://bit.ly/2uHKXUr
Documents:
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limpid agate
Updated
peak escarp
she's a fan of it as much as we are
magic zealot
Michael chu also tweeted about it now..
https://twitter.com/westofhouse/status/1098662096152285184
brazen flare
they should just show us the hero already
limpid agate
You'll see it next week
magic zealot
they always tease us with this kind of stuff for a few days
it was the same with hamster too
limpid agate
Its always 1 week
last inlet
Well, it is now
peak escarp
expect 2-3 more teasers over the weekend, then reveal sometime next week
last inlet
obtuse star
or a teaser during OWL
but they kinda announced that well in advance before, so maybe not
limpid agate
Only time we ever got an OWL teaser, it was announced in advance
last inlet
Eh, surprises happen. They also don't happen
limpid agate
Being Retribution
last inlet
It'll be a week
peak escarp
Brigitte's first teaser was Thursday, Feb 22, 2018
her reveal was Wednesday, Feb 28, 2018
limpid agate
What was Orisa's schedule again?
last inlet
Then just... Do other things
peak escarp
first teaser Tuesday, Feb 21, 2017
reveal Thursday Mar 2, 2017
limpid agate
But next week
brazen flare
maybe they will cut tradition this time
dire timber
so, Baptise is the next hero, a Talon medic, and he'll likely be one of the heroes of a Talon event set in Paris
... waaaaaait
an ex-Talon medic
from France
are we about to get the Widowmakermaker
limpid agate
Could be Haitian
peak escarp
no guarantee the event is in Paris
limpid agate
^
dire timber
yeah, yeah, I know
peak escarp
the map is likely unrelated
limpid agate
All we know is Baptiste is:
- A Talon Deserter
- Male
- A medic
- Has a Haitian name
- Took out a 4 man squad in Haiti
dire timber
it just feels super likely
peak escarp
why?
dire timber
hmmm
peak escarp
last year Blizzard World had nothing to do with Archives
dire timber
yeah but Paris is more
peak escarp
neither did Brigitte
limpid agate
In what way
peak escarp
we don't even know if Talon is connected to the Paris map
dire timber
there's a mansion there
peak escarp
Paris has very little lore
dire timber
wow
rustic flame
Rialto
peak escarp
Rialto was released after Archives
so you're saying only Talon could have a mansion?
more dates to add to my timeline - Feb 21, August 26
last inlet
Wild imagination going on here
peak escarp
probably the current year
last inlet
I can't stop thinking about the idea that was bouncing around this channel way back about a Haitian hero
Not much of an idea tho
peak escarp
August of the Recall year was when Sombra was doing her ARG
limpid agate
One thing worth noting is
last inlet
Unless it ends up being a woman related to Augustin 👀 lol
limpid agate
McManaway is a commander
peak escarp
February of the following year was when Doomfist was making his comeback
limpid agate
Commander in OW was the highest position
So maybe McManaway is a name of a council member
last inlet
Maybe
peak escarp
seems likely
last inlet
Are they known for having council members that haven't been shown?
worthy rose
@peak escarp sorry u just my go to here for reference since u keep everything
last inlet
Makes sense
worthy rose
But like
For all the other docs we got
were any of them on paper?
cause they seemed digital from memory
last inlet
Like, physical?
peak escarp
@last inlet there are a few council members who were unidentified
@worthy rose the Venice papers were on paper
worthy rose
were they in a similar condition to the report we got?
limpid agate
We also have multiple dates on here
peak escarp
these new ones look like photocopies
limpid agate
This letter was made on Feb 21st
peak escarp
yes
wintry zealot
thoughts on who CPT Cuerva may be/
limpid agate
Dead
peak escarp
dead/missing
worthy rose
Probably dead
or this is the best jebait in blizzard history and he's the new hero and baptiste is dead and convinced him to leave talon
last inlet
A true bait would be "its none of these guys lmao"
wintry zealot
brigitte was known to be a long time ago
peak escarp
yes, but the first teaser before her release didn't mention her at all
so the February 21 from the report is after the August 26 in the letter . . . I would guess this is contemporary with Recall (because when things are set in the past they usually say so)
worthy rose
@peak escarp in the masquerade comic, do we know everyone who was there?
worthy rose
doomfist was there as well and a couple others
peak escarp
Doomfist, Max
Sanjay and Moira are at the bottom, Max sits across from them
that leaves 4 unknown people at the table
one of them might be McManaway
worthy rose
and can we assume these are all like "Leaders" of Talon
peak escarp
yes
karmic ember
I read the coding in the video and this is what I got
F7 7F 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 1C 00 00 00 FF FF FF 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 BB EE B7 14 F7 7F 00 00 42 61 70 74 69 73 74 65 00 60 59 77 41 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AD ED 69 FF CE 01 00 00 99 67 87 14 F7 7F 00 00 30 DA 85 17F7 7F 00 00 FC 22 DE 12 F7 7F 00 00 B2 C4 C8 87 AD
I don’t know if it is of any use but 🤷♂️
And at the end it was really hard to read so I might have the last few wrong/missing
peak escarp
it's mostly gibberish with "Baptiste" somewhere in the middle
karmic ember
That’s 10 minutes of my life I’m not getting back
quick isle
He is the new overwatch hero going to come out sometime in the future
limpid agate
You will see hero 30 next week
worthy rose
so my original mindset here is that, based on how rough the paper looks and the fact they're using names we've never seen before, That this takes place roughly in Talon's early days like during either the early years of overwatch or perhaps during the later years after Antonio's death. My reasoning for this is because based on Captain Cuevera's log which seemed like Talon was in a desperate state of sorts meaning Overwatch was doing a good job at taking them down which is like the height of Overwatch's power (Because who else would be able to give them such trouble) and during the latter for the retribution event cause we see them at the very least not having Reaper as a leader so perhaps a more weakened state than the powerful state we see today
iron plume
hints 
limpid agate
They were there for 8 and a half hours before they were wiped out
iron plume
the ascii from hex just has baptiste yeah
peak escarp
if this was in the past we would be given an "x years ago" or it would mention being pulled from an archive
I think this is current
anything else important from that bit of code in the twitter clip? the syntax looks like a proper coding language, but is it?
asm volatile seems to be a function in C
iron plume
nothing that looks like any actual language
iron plume
looks like pseudocode
worthy rose
the rest of it becomes lost on me
iron plume
shl, add and eax are assembly terms
but that doesn't have actual functions
so it's pretty much gibberish coding-wise
peak escarp
damn, I was going to try to decipher it to see how Sombra logged in
iron plume
wicked pebble
So the question is are we getting Cuerva or Baptiste
quick isle
Baptiste could also be a map released with hero 30
peak escarp
someone mentioned that you can see the shadow of Haiti on the clip
I enhanced it so you can see it better
frosty shell
The mission definitely took place in Haiti
peak escarp
someone on twitter said a Jean Baptiste was mentioned in another teaser, but I don't see it anywhere
they probably misremembered
worthy rose
so, a squad deserting talon is definitely a loose end for them
and they want to tie up loose ends
frosty shell
This is a very interesting plot thread
limpid agate
The squad didn't desert
Only Baptiste
He appears to have eliminated Cuerva's squad
sacred hamlet
So this super threatening guy who assassins 3 people in less than 3 hours is a Supporting
limpid agate
8 hours
sacred hamlet
Healer
last inlet
Jean-Baptiste deserted, and Cuerva took his old squad mates to go look for him
limpid agate
They were there for 8 and a half hours
sacred hamlet
8 hours is still a really good feat
This guy is deadly if anything
Surprised he's not going to be a DPS
last inlet
One of them wasn't even looking for him
limpid agate
Keep in mind, Ana was also an elite sniper before she became a support
sacred hamlet
True
limpid agate
Best in the world before Widowmaker
sacred hamlet
He's literally called "The Medic"
last inlet
Sure
limpid agate
He's a medic
sacred hamlet
Actually no, "that Medic"
sacred hamlet
Ana is a butter heart though
Feeling remorse for killing enemies
This guy could be a psycho
last inlet
If they're gonna basically reuse her story for some other dude, that'd be disappointing
Either way
sacred hamlet
He at least acts like one if you consider what he did
last inlet
One week
limpid agate
How is that psycho?
last inlet
At least we have 6 names, 2 of which seem most important
limpid agate
He deserts a terrorist organization and they send a hitsquad after him
How is that psycho?
@last inlet Yup. McManaway and Baptiste are the important ones
sacred hamlet
Assassinating 3 enemies under 8 hours, stealing their badges as tokens and then sending over to his former boss.
last inlet
Yep
sacred hamlet
Could've been heads if he was on the mood.
Sending over them to his boss as an invitation as well
last inlet
Cuerva is a weird name, now that I think on it
limpid agate
Its spanish
sacred hamlet
Reminds me of Caveira
last inlet
Yeah it's Spanish
limpid agate
That's Portuguese
last inlet
In Spanish it's weird
peak escarp
it's spanish for crow
last inlet
But it's a city I guess
sacred hamlet
Cuerva isn't a portuguese word
last inlet
Cuervo is Spanish for crow
sacred hamlet
Non a Brazilian P
limpid agate
Caveira is Portuguese
sacred hamlet
so yeah spanish
last inlet
Cuerva isn't used much
limpid agate
Ceurva is Spanish
sacred hamlet
That's what it "reminded" me of
peak escarp
so then it's a feminine form?
last inlet
A rarely used one, yes
sacred hamlet
No it's just crown
last inlet
As a name, it makes more sense actually
limpid agate
Sure, but that's not really important overall
last inlet
There's also a place in Spain apparently
sacred hamlet
Could be any gender
last inlet
Named Cuerva
peak escarp
what are you going on about Scoots
last inlet
The only thing weird about it is how rarely you hear it
sacred hamlet
That it can be a male or a female
last inlet
Like, I've never heard it before today
peak escarp
yes
last inlet
Well. This isn't going anywhere
sacred hamlet
But not this one
peak escarp
I was just pointing out that the word is usually cuervo, so adding an "a" on the end makes it have a feminine ending
which is completely irrelevant
last inlet
I only brought it up because it's such a stand out name to give a background character
sacred hamlet
It's literally a translation for Crow
how does that stand out
Sombra is literally shadow
sacred hamlet
You mean Olivia Colomar
limpid agate
Correct
sacred hamlet
Oh so we're talking real names
peak escarp
yes
worthy rose
so what do we all think of the new leaks? came here as soon as i have seen
limpid agate
Not a leak
sacred hamlet
Those names are common in here
limpid agate
A teaser
limpid agate
Baptiste is the obvious forerunner
worthy rose
yeah i saw that
limpid agate
Cuerva's squad appears to have been eliminated
worthy rose
a medic sniper
limpid agate
McManaway is also interesting for the future, a potential council leader
YOu dont know he's a sniper
sacred hamlet
And Baptiste send out his badges as presents
limpid agate
Just that he is a medic that's a good shot
worthy rose
well, good shot
limpid agate
McCree and Pharah are also good shots
sacred hamlet
So you know he's probably a psycho
limpid agate
That's not a psycho thing
Its not like he sent back their heads or hands
He sent back their badges
Like their dogtags
worthy rose
im guessing his weapon will be fairly accurate then
sacred hamlet
Sending the badges of your former eleminated team members to your former boss as an invitation isn't psycho
limpid agate
That's not psycho. THat's "These people are dead"
sacred hamlet
OK DUE
limpid agate
What is he supposed to do if he wants to send a message that the squad is dead
sacred hamlet
I mean sure he could not be a psycho
limpid agate
A letter saying "Your team is dead"
peak escarp
that's more of a "I have these people come save them"
limpid agate
Hmmm
peak escarp
we don't know they're dead
last inlet
"They dead just trust me"
sacred hamlet
Good point
limpid agate
He was sending proof that he has taken them out
Thats not psycho
Psycho is chopping their hands off
peak escarp
sending body parts, now THAT would say "they're dead"
sacred hamlet
Like Doctor said, that could be further proof
so like Jewv said
Probably MIA
But I say
Probably psycho
Which is irrelevant
But I wouldn't mind a psycho Talon member when all we have is a boogeyman too hung up on his former friends
limpid agate
Reaper is your psycho.
sacred hamlet
I forgot to mention "edgy".
peak escarp
The organization needs him, now more than ever.
this line parallels Winston's speech
which again makes me think this is present day, not in the past
sacred hamlet
Oh boy, are we finally ending Chapter 1 of OW lore after 3 years
Possible chance of them adding this new Talon member, ending the Cinematics with Mercy joining the team and finally moving the story forward a bit.
limpid agate
Mercy likely wont join
peak escarp
Mercy will have to be dragged back in unwillingly
limpid agate
Everything she has said so far has been anti-Overwatch
peak escarp
or convinced that Overwatch still represents the greater good
sacred hamlet
We could always have a Mercy Redemption Arc in a 5 minutes cinematic that turns her into something that isn't a hypocrite pacifist
Or maybe just a hardcore pacifist she probably never hurt someone in her life
last inlet
Or she could just begrudgingly join because it's the best idea
worthy rose
I would love if this new hero was one of those mobile non dps heroes, i love those
last inlet
For whatever reason
limpid agate
Baptiste is a medic
sacred hamlet
Unfortunately
last inlet
They wouldn't bring that up if he couldn't heal to some capacity
Kinda wonder what his gimmick will be
limpid agate
A good gun, probably
sacred hamlet
He'll be Pyke from LoL
worthy rose
in the patch notes, non recoverable health was in the new health order thingy, maybe he can give non recoverable health to teammates?
sacred hamlet
DPS slash Healer that isn't a tanky fuck like Brig
peak escarp
probably a weapon based hero, rather than all the ability-based heroes we've been getting recenly
last inlet
Eh, speculation
last inlet
She throws out an armor pack that doesn't make sense
worthy rose
maybe a long range hero? with an accurate weapon as he was a good shot
sacred hamlet
He could deploy healthpacks
last inlet
That's dif
peak escarp
we just don't have any way of getting any
sacred hamlet
They could design him as Deckard from Hots
Drops medpacks on the field, get near them and they heal you
Could be helpful against GOATS who knows
Prevents burst
last inlet
Healer helper
limpid agate
Wonder what McManaway will lead to eventually
sacred hamlet
A complete psycho madlad
last inlet
Maybe
worthy rose
probably a smaller name like cavalli
limpid agate
Will we see him take out his squad
last inlet
Maybe just more background
last inlet
Saraliogu or w/e didn't lead to much
worthy rose
where will he be from, haiti?
sacred hamlet
The Torb story guy was just a background character
Not everyone has to become a hero
limpid agate
Cuerva's team and Nguyen feel like just background
sacred hamlet
Not even a guy related to Petra who massages stones for a living
limpid agate
That are inconcequential
McManaway being a commander feels important
Because OW's structure put Commander at the top
last inlet
McManaway being a commander, yeah, he's gotta make an appearance somewhere
wise maple
We already talked about the easter egg in the hex right?
sacred hamlet
who's mcmanaway again
valid shell
@dire timber We might have actually called a Haitian hero.
wise maple
I also ran the hex against Wikipedia's list of file headers and came up empty
sacred hamlet
I don't think Cuerva or anyone else holds too much water
dire timber
@valid shell I wanted it to be a black lady pirate tho 😭
limpid agate
@valid shell They mean McManaway
dire timber
I'm disappointed
last inlet
Oh a pirate too?
limpid agate
Not Baptiste
last inlet
Jeez
limpid agate
The one off Commander that was name dropped and may be no one to be mentioned ever again
But his title is the same name as Jack and Gabriel's in OW, so 🤷
But Baptiste definitely isnt council material
He's a deserter
sacred hamlet
Isn't Baptiste supposed to be a traitor in the new Teaser
valid shell
Baptiste is definitely the new hero, from the way he's being talked up as a total thug in this teaser.
sacred hamlet
For who is he betraying for then
dire timber
I suspect he's going to be the healer in the next Archives
@sacred hamlet he simply deserted
worthy rose
Maybe its a red herring and cuerva is the actual new hero
dire timber
wanted nothing to do with Talon anymore
dire timber
@worthy rose maybe
@sacred hamlet um, what do you mean?
it doesn't take a psycho to desert from Talon
worthy rose
maybe we are getting double bamboozled and its actually Baptiste
sacred hamlet
@dire timber So he just wanted to leave Talon and they're not allowing him that right.
That does make sense but I still sense some psycho
valid shell
Considering Baptiste is a confirmed deserter, and Sombra's tenuously loyal, it would be neat for her and him to be homies.
@worthy rose Stop.
worthy rose
ngl
valid shell
We actually have some genuine teaser content, don't try to derail to meme hero theories.
worthy rose
that sounds plausible
dire timber
ehh, the next hero is definitely gonna be Baptiste; it lines up perfectly with Archives
a Talon medic...
stoic quiver
Maybe
worthy rose
Yeah they were teasing brig and orisa but gave us doomfist
valid shell
Orisa was related to Doomfist, heavily. A Talon incident in Haiti has NOTHING to do with anarchists in Australia.
So stop.
sacred hamlet
To be hones the Medic thing really doesn' make sense
stoic quiver
nah
valid shell
@sacred hamlet The sniper medic thing didn't make sense either.
valid shell
We weren't "supposed" to get anything.
dire timber
@worthy rose just stop
peak escarp
@stoic quiver this is real lore
dire timber
anyhow, Cuerva might be released later on
sacred hamlet
Probably not
dire timber
I hope so
stoic quiver
Yeah well i mean
dire timber
@valid shell oof
valid shell
Being helpful isn't repeatedly trying to derail.
dire timber
I'd hate my hero idea to exist, only to get killed off at first apperance
stoic quiver
give us someting that will explode our minds
valid shell
"yeah so this actual content is cool buT WAHT ABOUT ORISA AND JUNKERQUEEN XD XD"
sacred hamlet
Cuerva is probably just serving as an antagonist and a "supporting" character to his story.
We're definitely not getting Cuerva
worthy rose
Like previous teasers, most of the new heroes werent exactly referenced
valid shell
Is Baptiste given a nationality?
worthy rose
If anything they could do the same thing like the past heroes and throw a curveball at us again
sacred hamlet
Something something Haite
peak escarp
@valid shell no
valid shell
Because the location and the French name suggest he's totally a local Haitian.