lime remnant
i heard someone tell me before genji was literally just cut in half
#lore-discussion
celest rover
SOMEONE MAKES MERCY ANIMATION
swift blaze
Not until they clear up her lore
iron plume
"clear up"?
frosty shell
Cadet probably wasn't Tracer's final Overwatch outfit
tepid abyss
I'd love some initial joining ow skin for tracer, something like genji's archive skin
fickle quail
Wasn't the skin for uprising close to that?
worthy rose
Cadet yea
fickle quail
sorry, forgot the name. didn't mean to repost
worthy rose
Do you think Hanzo has a death wish?
Little bit but not anymore; He wants retribution for what he did to his brother but now that it turns out genji is alive he's in a bit of a mixed feels state but the trauma is still with him
frosty shell
It's possible the outfit she wears now is the one she wore during her last years in Overwatch
worthy rose
I guess
peak escarp
Cadet is Tracer's "joining OW" skin
Uprising was her first mission
does anyone remember what location we figured out Doomfist's animation was set in?
iron plume
Singapore?
peak escarp
that's what I thought
regal coyote
if anything it is rein that has a deathwish
he would be the type that wish for a glorious end in battle
peak escarp
Hanzo literally says "Do it then - kill me."
regal coyote
though it is likely he would not be lucky enough
probably end up just like "you know who"
pliant epoch
hanzo should have died
pliant epoch
your right but hanzo killed genji if mercy didnt heal him he would have died plus if it wasnt for genjis mercy hanzo would have died
regal coyote
how would hanzo have died
pliant epoch
he probably would have killed hanzo if he didnt trane with his trainer
regal coyote
if genji did not get fixed properly he would not even stand a chance
pliant epoch
sry that i forgot his name havent played in months
regal coyote
hanzo is tough, it is not like some 2-bit grunt have a chance touching him
pliant epoch
your right
worthy rose
ik but after meeting genji again i don't think he wants to die anymore
i dont think he's forgiven himself but not in the mind state of "I deserve this"
pliant epoch
but hanzo attacked first why didnt he just let him come talk
im talking ablut genji
worthy rose
cause and i quote
"You are not the first assassin sent to kill me."
He assumed genji was an assassin
worthy rose
which means this is his bad cause he assumed anyone in a mech body suit is sent to kill him
also it was Shimada castle where he left
pliant epoch
not every one
worthy rose
so he was already hard on enemy territory
pliant epoch
thats mech racism
worthy rose
and assumed Genji was a killer since again mech suit in enemy territory hired by a yakuza gang
so like meh
i think safe assumption
pliant epoch
but what if he didint kill genji and became the ruler
regal coyote
let m see... you are in the MIDDLE of enemy terratory, where everyone and their grandma's dog should be out to kill you had they know
regal coyote
and a guy in mech suit with weapons trying to walk in.
your chance of a friendly is really really low
regal coyote
there is a series about it called yakuza i think :3
frosty shell
Also, Hanzo might assume the Shimada clan is trying to kill him too
Given that Hanzo was exiled from the Shimada clan
worthy rose
no they are
like pretty sure
I assume, which may be my bad, that when Hanzo said "Didn't your masters tell you who I was?!" I think he means the shimada clan leaders
regal coyote
they are, in a sorta kinda way
but they would not send grunts for it either
it is inefficient use/waste of grunts
peak escarp
they send assassins
regal coyote
also he is not of high piority
peak escarp
that's why Hanzo assumed Genji was an assassin
regal coyote
so not important and piority enough to be a whole clan hunt, far from that.
worthy rose
or they like regular assassins
regal coyote
but definitely they know it is not something grunts can have a chance of handeling
assassins shouldnt have motif.
worthy rose
just wondering cause like widow is an assassin so like a close range ninja assassin for the shimada clan wouldn't be too far stretch
odd dagger
Yeah they're just different types of assassins
worthy rose
sort of both I assume
olive karma
Were any new countries formed after the omnic war?
iron plume
Numbani, presumably
since it's a city-state separate from Nigeria
half epoch
🤔
toxic ferry
In the Paris map there’s a picture of a cat with some bolder letters I think it’s a “t” “l” “n” “r”
It might be important
lean prawn
he didnt
white cobalt
nice try, that doesnt work here
worthy rose
are u memeing cause he really didn't
the other, assumingly equally intelligent animals on the level of winston, killed them via tossing their butt out of the space lock
hammond was just rummaging and running around and caught a drift with winston when he most likely saw his plans for escape
wide jolt
YO THIS JUST IN
SOLDIER 76 IS ACTUALLY GAY
OH MY GOD
THIS GOES DEEPER
get it
cuz he fucks me-
men
dire timber
uh, what
worthy rose
Who is Vincent?
slow goblet
Soldier’s ex.
valid shell
Jack's past romantic partner.
worthy rose
When?
valid shell
Google Vincent Overwatch.
worthy rose
Ah I see
half epoch
Jack Morrison is gay. Thank. God.
valid shell
@half epoch Correct.
half epoch
I was being ironic. I was on top of that announcement. Lol.
valid shell
K
peak escarp
Lucio and DVa haven't met, but DVa is a fan of his music
worthy rose
woah
peak escarp
they're big enough celebrities that they are probably aware of each other
worthy rose
true
peak escarp
on a side note, a lot of the world are aware of who the Overwatch members are
like the gang in Germany that recognized Reinhardt
and the child at the rally who recognized Tracer (further evidence for the Overwatch Saturday morning cartoon)
peak escarp
are people still talking about this?
vital creek
hey can someone help me with hw nah im kidding but what is mcree's lore
peak escarp
he was the founder of a gang and got busted by Overwatch
dawn knot
kinda dangerous to have that kind of notoriety imo
and to make cartoons about people, what'd they be based on?
we don't have army cartoons in real life
though we do have a lot of movies
actually no yeah i redact my last point
peak escarp
GI Joe is based on military
and Overwatch's heroes are way more interesting than real life military heroes
limpid agate
we don't have army cartoons in real life
I can think of lots of military cartoons and shows that aired.
GI Joe, MASH, A Team, Blackadder
Going by just what was made by the Allies
limpid agate
If you want specifically cartoons, North Korea has Squirrel and Hedgehog. Japan has how many military based anime shows? Plus you have soviet era cartoons.
dawn knot
then like it's essentially lying about somebody's life
if they don't base things on real missions
limpid agate
You mean like historical fiction?
dawn knot
and i doubt they would, i'm sure they're confidential
yes, but with people present now
so more like how there are figurines of obama and junk
i'd imagine a niche market (if that world is anything like ours in that way)
but nothing that'd actually be shown to us by blizzard
since in our world it's considered off putting
i doubt it'd be different in theirs
Unless
they like show just
a general "hero cartoon"
that's loosely based on overwatch people
limpid agate
?
dawn knot
like i said, i never disputed the fact that war movies exist
in fact you cherrypicked my statement before this
the one i conceded because war movies
limpid agate
I dont understand your point
limpid agate
Maybe you should restate it clearly so people can understand your point
Is it that it would be weird to make movies about contemporary events and people?
Fictionalized or otherwise?
dawn knot
fair enough
peak escarp
they put real people in cartoons all the time
limpid agate
Like that Simpsons episode where Bush moved in across the street
dawn knot
i would just find it very strange if there were to be a cartoon featuring actual soldiers preforming their actual duties in the settings a cartoon normally takes place in
and i'm talking a full fledged cartoon, not one of episodes
it'd be very strange, and very propaganda-like
now, i can almost sorta imagine overwatch differing
limpid agate
Isn't that what Popeye was
limpid agate
So
peak escarp
it would probably be heavily fictionalized
winged granite
Oof
limpid agate
Like Popeye
peak escarp
but the characters would still be recognizable
dawn knot
😔
winged granite
Well anyways yall suck ass
limpid agate
Moving swiftly onwards
dawn knot
but while it would have to be like that in order to be palatable, it'd be even more disconnected from the real people by thatnature
and so it'd be either more propaganda-like, fantasies about crazy super heroes saving the world, or super creepy, weird situations and putting words and ideologies in people's mouths
by people i refer to
the characters being portrayed in the cartoons
characters being
the Characters.
but either way it's still a possibility because from our perspective, it's kinda neat to see something like that in the lore
so i don't doubt it's existence
dawn knot
i highly don't doubt it's existence now
because the chu said it
also super serious
i'm connected to this chu guy by like
peak escarp
he was semi-joking about it
dawn knot
one person
peak escarp
but I wouldn't doubt there being Overwatch cartoons/comics in the OW universe while Overwatch was at its peak
the Overwatch members were definitely famous enough
dawn knot
it just feels weird to me is all
limpid agate
!!wiki Timmy
twilit nacelleBOT
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limpid agate
Has a Rein TShirt
dawn knot
did we have any war comics during any of the world wars
valid shell
You keep moving goalposts.
limpid agate
Whose to say that Overwatch media in universe is not propoganda
peak escarp
also the little girl at the Mondatta rally recognized Tracer
dawn knot
fair enough
also yeah that one freaked me out for the lack of attention
like how do people not freak when tracer's running through the streets with her whole getup on
and since people know about doomfist, i.e. timmy
though maybe the very first short isn't the best source
peak escarp
adults might not recognize her, but a child who watches reruns of the Overwatch cartoon definitely would
or they just weren't paying attention
dawn knot
why don't people just like
idk if these terrorists are so well known, how do they even hide
how do any of those people have privacy
especially in that hyper modern world
unless they somehow
have setbacks that we don't
there's a show that i used to watch with my father that totally fits this as an analogy, but i'm not sure if it's well known so i won't say unless anyone asks
limpid agate
Would you be able to pick out António Guterres in a crowd
dawn knot
but essentially, i believe that perhaps in this "overwatch reality" portrayed by blizzard in their work of fiction
is advanced in many ways we are not
but lacks in others
it could even go down to the makeup of the very human beings that occupy their universe
where they are prone to a different logic system than we are
valid shell
You're losing the thread.
dawn knot
and therefore make different, "tropelike" decisions
like how so? i feel as though i've just barely begun to expand upon it
but i need input, how's all this sounding to yall?
i'm essentially setting up the framework for the idea that
valid shell
In a blog, maybe. This isn't the place for rambling.
Doesn't make for great discussion.
dawn knot
literally all works of fiction could be construed as works of fact
just some sort of
parallel universe's fact
but yeah i'm getting weird i'll stop
valid shell
Sure. The parallel universe is called fiction.
You don't need to overcomplicate it.
People in stories don't act entirely natural because that's the nature of the medium.
Not some quantum theory alternate reality thing.
dawn knot
maybe the "medium" is just channeling into another world that suits our entertainment needs
if that makes any sense
dawn knot
haha you're right
anyways
i guess an overwatch cartoon could be a thing
but it fiddles with different junk that complicates other junk
on top of that
the idea of at the very least extreme notoriety of these "heroes" in that universe
means that literally none of them could ever go out in public
because even little children could recognize them
valid shell
We have a rebel, freedom fighter, and someone who some might call a terrorist, with a branded breakfast cereal.
dawn knot
like even the normal looking ones
well, i suppose it could be
a local thing
in that universe
but yeah this pretty much leads back to the inherent logical difference thing that i was talking about
if you accept that
then literally anything they do makes sense
but also there would be no need to theory because
literally everything would make sense it's just
aaaah
there's also a more pessimistic way of looking at it, where one could say
"well it's just a work of fiction, and therefore it's inconsistencies don't matter"
which is equally valid so
aaaaaah
it's kinda scary to me too like, what are our logic patterns
"I want this, war. I dislike you, war. I'm me and therefore i should dislike you, war"
literally any other reason i could think of for strife in our world between humans are just complications of those three
though i may be wrong in saying that
it's tough to argue that we don't fall into patterns
in some sort of way
and so maybe
maybe we're all just players in some game too
peak escarp
what does any of this have to do with Overwatch?
dawn knot
it stems from overwatch in a way, but really you could draw this conversation out of anything
i'll leave now sorry
sacred hamlet
I spent 10 minutes scrolling up and reading all these walls of text
And I'm still confused with the topic here
peak escarp
people need to learn to summarize their statements in a single message, instead of hitting enter every time they stop to think
valid shell
Someone's just discovered that most stories aren't entirely realistic.
And is having a nervous breakdown?
sacred hamlet
Why utilize the advantage of being able to say something and think at the same time
When you can just spill it all out like in a real conversation
Very fancy
And yeah he sounded stressed
dense estuary
How is Talon not constantly followed? Simple the world is still not in tip top shape and major powers have rebuild to resolve. And Talon has people in influence positions such as Sanjay who via his day job can exert the influence of Vishkar.
Hence why Winston pushed the “Avengers Assemble” button.
forest hound
what the fuck did i just join into-
thorn sedge
Same @forest hound
autumn berry
same @forest hound
sacred hamlet
It's fine we will 😔
late ledge
!!wiki Tracer
worthy rose
Only the trusted people can do that
Mods and a few others
anything in particular u wanna know about tracer?
!!wiki tracer
twilit nacelleBOT
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fringe blade
why tracer wear orange pants]
But seriously
Out of all the things
you choose orange-colored tights?
valid shell
As opposed to?
sacred hamlet
Isn't the point of her uniform supposed to match Overwatch's Logo color scheme
worthy rose
no? I think it's just what she's comfortable with since it's a suit that is essentially aerodynamic with a bit of her own flourish and style and also maybe (and this is just my own speculations) she wants to make herself a target because it'll make people focus on her instead of say normal civilians of sorts; but that's my own speculations
Better question is
why does hanzo constantly insist on the nip slip
valid shell
Not to mention it breaks up the tedium of her otherwise brown-white-brown-white-brown outfit.
@worthy rose Yumi practitioners would leave an arm and shoulder bare so it doesn't catch on their bowstring.
And while Hanzo doesn't seem to use a yumi (more of a steppe mounted bow), it still has a use.
peak escarp
yes
worthy rose
good to know that in the future, clothes are still inefficient; personally I HC that hanzo loves givin ppl the nip slip but wont ever admit it. I'm kidding and that's cool didn't know that
peak escarp
what Binge said
valid shell
I mean, sure, "lol hanzo tiddy XDXD" is a funny meme.
peak escarp
worthy rose
so like is the young shimada eye brow thing a japanese thing or a unique character design
valid shell
Most of the cast are slight caricatures.
Have you ever seen a woman with Moira's proportions? Or is that an Irish thing?
valid shell
Kay.
worthy rose
funny thing about moira's voice actor is that she has no twitter
mild wedge
obviosly
worthy rose
i just found it funny is all
worthy rose
like that question of a woman with moira's proportions and it's moira's literal voice actor
idk maybe i find weird stuff funny
mild wedge
shes also like the only one in history
so its kind of funny
for a second i thought she was a boy once cause of a voice line
worthy rose
when i first started playing i was super confused cause i too thought moira was a dude
she's very androgynous
limpid agate
what a voice actor with no twitter
She isn't a voice actor
She's a normal actor
Overwatch is her only game
peak escarp
she was in Rogue One
limpid agate
She's Mon Mothma
worthy rose
I mean wouldn't that put her as a voice actor? I think just having a role in general where you are not appearing unless you were playing a caricature of yourself would make u a voice actor no?
limpid agate
There's a difference between being an actor and having one role
Is Obama a comedian because he was in Comedians in Cars getting Coffee
worthy rose
so the line is drawn at two?
dire timber
I mean
she's definitely Moira's voice actor
or Mon Mothma's voice actor in the animated shows
regal coyote
most politicians are jokes and crooks to start with, so you may need a better example.
but that aside, indeed not a voice actor, same can be said with Ana's VA, but that one si difference, since she is also expert on VA and translation and such ... giving lectures on arabic translation
there was a video of him explaining arabic versions of some disney animation and how the english language is translated into arabic keeping the original flow
anyhow
Can we cox Chu into giving the shimada grunt/meatshirld a name?
i mean, he does get featured a bit in the new animation shot (lego)
and NO, not hero 30 in case someone ask
not in smash either
untold timber
No cause chu doesnt seem to care about lore enough besides devoting a whole page to a characters sexuality (idc about him being gay, but why a whole page?)
worthy rose
if Omnics are robots why can't they just repair that robot Ghandi guy from the widow maker trailer
ping me to respond
crystal geyser
@worthy rose bc that's almost as immoral as resurrecting
worthy rose
oh
crystal geyser
kapp
worthy rose
well
iron plume
His "brain" was destroyed and as far as we know they don't have them backed up
they may repair the body but it wouldn't be the same person
mild wedge
also its probly hard to do that right now
cyan anvil
with all hat tech, they dont have cloud save
peak escarp
@untold timber A whole page? It was a vague mention in a couple of sentances
worthy rose
The question of sentience is interesting for Mandata, there may have been something in the original body like with all the omnics and that gave them sentience, having ur brain downloaded into a computer and put into a new body actually is science fiction and may not result in sentience but just someone who thinks a bit like you but won't be you at all
peak escarp
the way I see it, a person is the sum of their memories and experiences - sure you could copy their memories into a new body, but that wouldn't be the same person
same with robots
forest vine
Robot go beep boop I consider it alive
peak escarp
and in the OW universe, we're supposed to consider omnics as people
dire timber
@worthy rose because he was killed
they'd have repaired him if his "brain" had survived the attack
but it did not
@crystal geyser immoral? I dunno about that, honestly
@cyan anvil I don't think you can store an entire consciousness on a cloud save
loud slate
hes 29
viscid lily
oh I thought he was older
loud slate
atleast thats what ow wiki says
worthy rose
!!wiki winston
twilit nacelleBOT
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west stag
29 that’s wild
peak escarp
wild?
west stag
always kinda struck me as an older dude
peak escarp
really? he acts pretty young
people are still in denial about Moira being the source of Reaper's wraithiness
quick isle
People also deny Mercy built Genji's but
quick isle
Ahh I see
tawny patio
On omnic cloud:
The omnic are supposed to be human, ignoring the implications of giving them new bodies, that would mean one could theoretically hack their minds without their direct presence...like through the internet..which in itself is a horrifying thought
lunar latch
Probs Winston or Torb built it and Mercy gave them ideas on how they can improve it to let him live.
pliant epoch
how did mercy get the ability to rez poeple from the dead
peak escarp
he didn't die
iron plume
she saved him from the brink
peak escarp
he was almost dead
limpid agate
Heres a list of everyone important that died.
- Gerard
- Antonio
- Harold Winston
- Sojiro Shimada
- Mondatta
- NOT Genji and Reaper
iron plume
also not ana or soldier despite the ebin memes
worthy rose
Do you think Winston wanted to kill Harold?
iron plume
no
peak escarp
Harold was his father figure
worthy rose
Then why did he lead an uprising on the base and had all the scientist sucked out into the vacuum of space?
worthy rose
then why did it happen
limpid agate
I'm not going to repeat myself.
worthy rose
then what happend?
worthy rose
oh
worthy rose
oh
limpid agate
Yall shouldnt have answered his question if he was refusing to watch a 1 minute video that explains what happened
iron plume
not everyone can watch a video at any time
limpid agate
He didn't express that
worthy rose
Its 2 mins
limpid agate
2 minutes is still no time at all
worthy rose
ok ok
iron plume
it's easier to just say
worthy rose
ok
pearl blade
Any ideas on who or what the next hero is going to be?
iron plume
Hamid is a common frontrunner
mystic tapir
Twitter
limpid agate
Ok, so.
Hasselhoff also exists
But hes not doing anything in the present of Overwatch
worthy rose
He's a classic
peak escarp
they'd all be dead by then
dire timber
@limpid agate we don't know for sure if Harold Winston died
it's implied he did
but we weren't really told much about Harold specifically
limpid agate
Probably a very short duration
dire timber
he said there was nothing left for him
he definitely didn't stay there longer than a couple of months
worthy rose
@peak escarp can u pull out the overwatch time line? Cause we could probably roughly estimate things for winston
peak escarp
14 years ago: Hammond born
9 years ago: Mei goes into cryosleep
since Hammond went with Winston when he left the moon, and Mei knew Winston, he must have arrived on Earth and become a member of Overwatch within these two events
I'd give at least a year or so for Hammond to become fully grown and learn all his engineering/mechanical skills
so Winston came to Earth between 13 and 9 years ago
peak escarp
most of the timeline is ranges instead of exact dates
peak escarp
the problem I have with the idea of Harold being alive is that if he is alive, where has he been all this time? Why has he not contacted Winston, or Overwatch, or Lucheng Interstellar? And if he has, why is Winston so sad about someone he knows is still alive?
Harold being alive creates a massive plot hole
same with Antonio and Gerard and Sojiro
worthy rose
We could explore the possibility of survival on the moon.
Say Harold escapes the gorilla rebellion, what does he do?
He's in space, so he knows at least some stuff about survival.
peak escarp
that is a possibility, but to survive 9-13 years on the moon with little to no resources while a bunch of intelligent and bloodthirsty apes are hunting for you?
seems very improbable
peak escarp
I don't think so
worthy rose
No, actually. I can't think of somewhere with good enough life support and food for years.
peak escarp
surviving in the wilderness on earth away from all civilization is just about the only way I could see him still being alive
which sounds just as unlikely as him hiding somewhere in Horizon for 12 years
worthy rose
I'm just gonna say he dead
no way he survived
^
Too much suspension of disbelief.
no too much things he'd have to do which he couldn't be able to do and more than likely he's dead
hot sleet
white cobalt
and how is related to lore?
limpid agate
!!shitposting @hot sleet
twilit nacelleBOT
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worthy rose
in all seriousness i really dont get roadhog's character
like i get him
but i dont understand him
he's a fighter and stuff against omnics and junk but like he's shown to be intelligent and very vengeful of sorts
but next time we see him he's indulging on junkrat's shennanigans
worthy rose
roadhog
dire timber
oh
oh wait, some messages didn't load
brb
@peak escarp for some reason I've had this idea of Harold falling into coma, and only reawakening recently
it doesn't make much sense, honestly
but I just can't drop the idea off my mind
vocal pine
Kaeore, have you read Roadhog's comic? Just asking out of curiosity. I find him very interesting.
dire timber
Wasted Land was the best piece of Roadhog content imo
it struck the perfect balance between his silent self in Going Legit and his somewhat more talkative presence in the game
he speaks, but still doesn't say more then he needs to say
worthy rose
Wasn't RoadHog a bodyguard for a bigshot Gambler before he became a criminal? Or is that someone else?
proud fractal
Hog just needs cash
dire timber
@worthy rose he was a Junker enforcer
dire timber
the closest their society has to law enforcement, where the law is basically whatever the Queen of Junkertown commands
dire timber
anyhow, something happened and he's no longer an enforcer at the time of Wasted Land, and the Queen doesn't want to see him in Junkertown anymore
copper ice
bastion's gun is actually dildo-confirmed
wise fjord
hi
peak escarp
people are trying so hard to make the Sombra/Zarya/Hanzo/McCree spray make sense
those 4 have nothing in common
Sombra and Zarya have met, and Sombra and McCree may have met
Hanzo has no connection to any of them
worthy rose
true
peak escarp
and just because the other sprays showed plausible groups doesn't mean this group is plausible too
magic bane
(hi im new just joined) diddnt sombra meet mcree, and genji though (not really Shure about hanzo but i mean she must atlest know him)
peak escarp
Sombra and McCree were at the same bar around the holidays in the comic Reflections
however, they weren't sitting together and McCree was passed out at the bar, so it's unclear if they have actually met
Sombra knows things about Genji (because she's Sombra and she knows things about everybody), but we haven't seen them meet
magic bane
true true
peak escarp
peak escarp
if my theory about Sombra providing McCree with the location of Echo is correct, then he probably went to Dorado to meet her after
worthy rose
Sombra just putting her hand in all the pies
peak escarp
and when Sombra got there, he was already drunk
peak escarp
maybe
worthy rose
Like genuinely it makes me wonder
peak escarp
Sombra could also find a way of tracking him and contacting him directly
like hacking into screens to get his attention
magic bane
well that would make sense
Also its reveld in the zarya comic that sombras real name is olivia
Olivia
sacred hamlet
Dumb name for a global hacker.
That is yet to do anything with the russian puppet she got like
2 years ago or something
nocturne rune
she did change her name tho 
sacred hamlet
That's her alias
nocturne rune
thats what shes known for
sacred hamlet
I mean a lot of artists have their full names on display but they prefer using aliases
It's really just a title
magic bane
true
vocal rain
sacred hamlet
I thought you were talking about an actual name change
nocturne rune
no
sacred hamlet
Which would make sense for a worldwide hacker
magic bane
yeah but if she really were to, we probably wouldn't know as shed probably not expose it to anyone
sacred hamlet
Well it definitely got exposed on that last comic involving her
Somehow it did
Which honestly makes no sense
peak escarp
Zarya got it from Alejandra, the little girl at the bakery
sacred hamlet
Fastest delete in the west
peak escarp
who wanted to be a hero
granite gazelle
exactly im nice with it
sacred hamlet
How does Alejandra know her name though
peak escarp
Olivia grew up in Dorado
even if she deleted the records of her real name, she couldn't make a kid forget her
sacred hamlet
How old is Sombra anyways
peak escarp
30
sacred hamlet
I'm pretty sure Alejandra would be a toddler by the time Sombra started her hacking sprees
peak escarp
Alejandra's mother probably knew her
Sombra bribed the police with a basket of bread, and has a voice line about the bakery
she was probably a regular
tawny patio
One way or another someone will always know who you were
It’s if they know who you are
peak escarp
sacred hamlet
Excuse me sir how is that bribing
granite gazelle
damn wtf she finessing them
sacred hamlet
Isn't that just a gift being used as a distraction for her to hack the computers
peak escarp
maybe bribing isn't the right word
peak escarp
sir?
sacred hamlet
Yes sir
granite gazelle
yes sir
sacred hamlet
Yo everyone in this place got a problem with being called sir
you people need to be more polite
granite gazelle
ok mr.forsen twitch chat
sacred hamlet
Okok let's just goback to talking about no lore watch though
Before Lorenerd police gets us
peak escarp
we should be getting Hero 30 teasers this weekend
sacred hamlet
By the way ma'am is a stupid waste of breath
peak escarp
Orisa's first teaser was Feb 21, 2017
sacred hamlet
quite the waste of vocabulary space
yeah we're probably getting it on the 30th
brigitte happened on the 29
peak escarp
Brigitte's first teaser was Feb 22, 2018
sacred hamlet
Im ean the reveal of course
not the the teasers
teasers probably coming in a few days
Now I'm completely oblivious to what it might be
Will probably be a surprise
Like Ashe
peak escarp
my money is still on Hamid Faisal
sacred hamlet
Which personally I do not thing needed to exist
Who's that
Oh you and Jewv are still placing bets on this Petra guy
I still see no possibility of it happening
sacred hamlet
I'm sure he'll just serve as background character
doesn't sound like the kind of guy who would become a hero
peak escarp
he is the only existing character who fits the pattern of existing characters who become heroes
if it's not him, it will be someone entirely new
which isn't impossible, but unlikely
nocturne rune
what about the one guy thats in talon \
sacred hamlet
You mean they get teased over and over and over through random stuff happening 6 months - 1 year prior to their release
nocturne rune
the omnic
sacred hamlet
and then they get slammed onto your faces
Very cool
I still see no potential in him
peak escarp
Max has potential, but he hasn't been mentioned recently
sacred hamlet
Isn't he supposed to be some kind of Indy or something
what is he gonna do
Throw rocks at people
use artifacts
peak escarp
he could be a tank with armor made of ancient pottery
sacred hamlet
Ancient pot man nice
Yeah it could work
and think about it the artifacts could be cursed
and they could do magical stuff
nocturne rune
nobody would complain 4head
sacred hamlet
Supporting the existence of magic in the world of Overwatch and explaining the weird shit Hanzo, Zen and Genji do
peak escarp
there's no magic in Overwatch
sacred hamlet
There's no magic in the real world either
nocturne rune
yeah
sacred hamlet
Or is there ⁉
peak escarp
the devs said there is no magic
peak escarp
and?
peak escarp
they haven't changed on much since the game was released
sacred hamlet
it's not like Winston or anyone in OW has read a book in a comic saying "Magic doesn't exist stop believing in magic"
It don't exist now but it could always become a thing
sacred hamlet
Which unfortunately limits it a lot
There's a little bit of magic in everything
Devs outright confirming that magic is inexistent is kind of naive
nocturne rune
there should be a baseball player
sacred hamlet
And ignorant to be honest
sacred hamlet
Whether they want it or not
peak escarp
if they say there's no magic, then there's no magic
sacred hamlet
The truth is that it is quite limiting
I mean we literally still have no explanation to how the power of 3 existent characters right now work
nocturne rune
so what's going to happen with Echo?
sacred hamlet
Gonna be released in June probably
gonna have a comic
which will probably be lackluster
and then never appear again
sacred hamlet
you know that would be terrible right
tease the same character for 2 years
that's terrible
nocturne rune
healer?
sacred hamlet
she's definitely coming out in july
sacred hamlet
Jewv also mentioned something something 31 hero confirmed to be Echo
he might be wrong though who knows people are wrong
peak escarp
Echo was only confirmed to not be hero 30
sacred hamlet
No I mean
You're hyping up a character for 2 Blizzcons
Blizzcon reveals are supposed to reveal exciting new stuff
Unless you want to release Echo on November along with Blizzcon
Tease another hero there instead of Echo
and release them on March
granite gazelle
I just want clans or for them to fix endorsements
peak escarp
also the hero revealed at Blizzcon is always released in November
sacred hamlet
the problem is that no one likes Echo
If you like Echo that's fine :))
but most people are probably not as hyped for her
peak escarp
a lot of people like Echo
nocturne rune
what type of hero would she be thoo
nocturne rune
dead meme
nocturne rune
theres so many dps
sacred hamlet
The thing to understand is
You'd be releasing a character on a Blizzcon
when it was already revealed and teased 1 year ago prior to tht blizzcon
sacred hamlet
that'd just be a shitty move by Blizz
valid shell
How so?
nocturne rune
spanish hero when
valid shell
You mean from Spain?
nocturne rune
yes
sacred hamlet
Shitty move in terms of not releasing her in July instead of November
July is a perfect date for her release
No argument there
peak escarp
Doomfist was teased in 2014, not released until 2017
nocturne rune
lmafo
sacred hamlet
Since everyone is already expecting her on July and already wanting another hero for Blizzcon
peak escarp
1 year is nothing
valid shell
Millennials
sacred hamlet
They teased his glove of death
nocturne rune
teased before the game came out kappa
sacred hamlet
They probably didn't even know what Doomfist was going to be
peak escarp
we already know Echo will take more time, and she seems like a hero that will move the story forward
sacred hamlet
Yeah
peak escarp
so Blizzcon is the perfect time to release her
dawn knot
i wish we had another arg
sacred hamlet
that's why she's not being released this march
valid shell
Probably a human male.
sacred hamlet
Most likely not involved with Petra 'cause that stupid
tawny patio
i came back at the right time
peak escarp
human male is probable
sacred hamlet
I'd rather have OW Indy to be a background character
nocturne rune
or a human female support kappa
peak escarp
we don't know anything about Hamid
sacred hamlet
hopefully a male to balance things out
peak escarp
for all you know he could be a total badass
nocturne rune
kappa
sacred hamlet
too many women in my goddamn game
valid shell
Wew.
sacred hamlet
where's my big men
nocturne rune
TriHard
sacred hamlet
Yeah
nocturne rune
fact
sacred hamlet
'cause we've been getting more females compared to males
which is fine
they balanced it out
now we need some men as well
peak escarp
there's just enough women in this game
nocturne rune
we need another mobile shield
white cobalt
I dont mind the gender of the hero
valid shell
We need a male not in terms of ratios, but just because I'd like to see a new one that isn't a) a hamster, or b) restricted by a silhouette drawn before launch.
sacred hamlet
I also hope they don't the same fuckup that was Ashe
She just feels like a Female McCree
nocturne rune
omnics arent men or women change my mind
sacred hamlet
Compared to the gorgeous lady Moira
valid shell
@nocturne rune Dude stop.
Unless you actually want to contribute, don't just spam chat with LOL POGCHAMP XDXDXD
peak escarp
Moira is just a female Reaper
sacred hamlet
Does Hammond count as a male
limpid agate
Hammond and Winston count
nocturne rune
i never said "LOL POGCHAMP XDXDXD"
valid shell
Then Ashe isn't just a female McCree.
Moira heals herself with her LMB and turns incorporeal with Shift.
sacred hamlet
I mean
valid shell
AKA female Reaper.
peak escarp
storywise, Ashe and McCree come from different backgrounds
peak escarp
they have different colour palettes
nocturne rune
different hats
peak escarp
they purposely designed Ashe to have a different style from McCree
sacred hamlet
that's like going overboard with making your character look unique to be honest
Moira looks more realistic than her if you ask me
yeah Ashe's gameplay designed is completely different than mcree's
no argument there
magic bane
apparently McCree was a part of the farm until ash made him a part of the deadlock gang until he quit
sacred hamlet
I just think her personality and design are bland
sacred hamlet
Ashe
magic bane
shes...ok
nocturne rune
you mean Bob's gameplay 
sacred hamlet
she's... fine
peak escarp
opinions are fine
sacred hamlet
she's just a less cooler McCree
and by less I mean like 10x less cooler
I'm assuming you can say less cooler without sounding dumb
But yeah she's just boring to be honest
silk wind
Bob is better than ashe
sacred hamlet
Moira had more charm
peak escarp
well, McCree is a 20 in a world of 10s, so naturally he'd be cooler
nocturne rune
sacred hamlet
I don't know what that means but I agree
nocturne rune
it means he is a 20/10
sacred hamlet
Still don't get it
nocturne rune
ok i tried
peak escarp
the devs have said they like to plant hints about future heroes long in advance, and that Ashe was an exception to that because she was such an appealing character
so the chances that hero 30 is someone completely unknown are low
nocturne rune
so who do we have mentioned in the lore?
peak escarp
the only character mentioned recently is Hamid Faisal, the archaeologist from Petra
sacred hamlet
The greatest waifu of OW
The flamethrower queen
Like you know the character that everyone was hyping up before Ashe burnt our dreams to the ground
nocturne rune
junker queen, max, hamid, echo
peak escarp
before that, we have the Triplets and Bars from Reunion
nocturne rune
well, queen isnt in the lore ig
peak escarp
I don't think Junker Queen is likely right now
valid shell
Junkertown Queen is extremely unlikely now, with Hammond existing.
peak escarp
maybe in the future
sacred hamlet
One can still dream
valid shell
If they were ever going to drop Queenie, it would have been in Hammond's slot, as an ex-Scrapyard mech champion.
nocturne rune
sacred hamlet
Rialto
granite gazelle
EU 
magic bane
OH YEAH
magic bane
that map kinda sucked
limpid agate
Busan
sacred hamlet
and then the Japanese map
peak escarp
Busan
limpid agate
Busan is Korea not Japan
granite gazelle
Japanese?
sacred hamlet
then EU again
magic bane
hanamura was there a long time ago
sacred hamlet
Hanamura is in Japan right
peak escarp
yes
sacred hamlet
see
magic bane
Honestly whats wrong with temple of anubis i like it but i know others hate it
sacred hamlet
I told you they looked the same
worthy rose
i like it too
magic bane
i know others HATE IT
sacred hamlet
Because fuck Widow
Fuck tight spaces
And fuck 2CP
That's why
Also that map makes my eyes burn
Egyptian aesthetic is a no from me
granite gazelle
Lore chat btw
sacred hamlet
It's fine
white cobalt
how 2cp relates with lore? 🤔
peak escarp
Jewvia did you make a chart for the likely heroes this time? Or are you all in on Hamid?
sacred hamlet
We just gotta transition this into Lore
nocturne rune
literally now someone brings it up
we werent talking about lore for like 10 mins lmfao
sacred hamlet
Yes we were
sacred hamlet
We were discussing how boring Ashe is and how great Moira turned out to be
granite gazelle
Lit
sacred hamlet
Great discussion topic
nocturne rune
ok i was wrong
sacred hamlet
My money is still on Junkerqueen being the new character
'cause literally anything else would honestly be underwhelming
nocturne rune
mine is max
sacred hamlet
Wow finally a Talon Tank in my Overwatch game
granite gazelle
Next hero will be a piranha plant
nocturne rune
yes
peak escarp
why does Talon need a tank?
granite gazelle
You right a tank would throw out stealth
sacred hamlet
'Cause I need a Villain Tank in my Overwatch game with nothing but goody two shoes Tanks
and a hamster
peak escarp
the Junkers have 2/3 of the slots
Deadlock has 1/3 of the slots
Roadhog is goody two shoes?
nocturne rune
okay, junker queen can be a healer
sacred hamlet
Hell no
nocturne rune
duh
peak escarp
Bob won't be a playable hero
sacred hamlet
A shame
granite gazelle
F
sacred hamlet
I'd rather have the Triplets
Like it seriously triggers me that they chose Ashe instead of Bob and the Triplets
nocturne rune
i searched up overwatch triplets and it showed pregnant tracer
sacred hamlet
Leaders ResidentSleeper
peak escarp
peak escarp
they're Starcraft nerds
peak escarp
nocturne rune
4th sniper?
peak escarp
Bars is cool too, but people would rage if they added another sniper
nocturne rune
5th*
nocturne rune
hanzo, widow, ana, ashe, and bars
peak escarp
Ashe isn't a sniper
nocturne rune
i count her as one
sacred hamlet
Sure dude
peak escarp
the game doesn't count her as one
nocturne rune
what was he supposed to be?
peak escarp
Roadhog is a tank
sacred hamlet
You ain't a Tank if you don't save me