ı mean if they go with journey to the west
#lore-discussion
wraith zealot
piggy skin wont be happening
since a character that is pig from that already been done as skin for hog
regal coyote
journey to the west is aldy done, the 4 main character is casted
wraith zealot
only 4 main
peak escarp
they've already done Journey to the West
iron plume
they do different themes
peak escarp
they're not going to do it again
molten geyser
Wait, what is journey to the west?
iron plume
last year had a 4-char set with the direction patron animals
wraith zealot
waht was the theme for the second
regal coyote
they can go dynasty warriors (another famous chinese theme)
wraith zealot
could be
regal coyote
and i mean we can use a lubu somewhere
iron plume
Mercy, Zarya, Genji and Pharah
wraith zealot
so nexy one mei, dva, hanzo, ?
regal coyote
last time it is 4 gardians for chinese stuff
wraith zealot
considering those are asian heroes that would fit better
iron plume
they're not limited to specific heroes
mei and d.va already have them, too
got them first year
regal coyote
so firebird, turtle snake, azure rathalos and shaved ladies
molten geyser
Here’s to hoping Busan gets a lunar new year variation.
regal coyote
yes
molten geyser
Wait, do they celebrate the lunar new year in South Korea? I think they do
regal coyote
yes
regal coyote
koreans are pet people of chinese at one point
so did vietnam and what not
even japan in old days use lunar
wraith zealot
do they still do it tho
restive flower
what was the anubis project
peak escarp
the Anubis AI
regal coyote
skylab i think
peak escarp
that was featured in Pharah's comic
wraith zealot
ı got a question
not sure its correct o rnot
pharah works for helix security right
worthy rose
yes
worldly lintel
yes
wraith zealot
and soldier's has an ability called helix rockets which is cannon
are those same rockets as
regal coyote
helix is basically ovrwatch-lite
iron plume
no
wraith zealot
pahar'S suits
iron plume
soldier has helix rockets because they fly in the helical shape
worthy rose
the weapon was stolen from helix's experimental weapons
worthy rose
I think
iron plume
the rifle was stolen from an OW watchpoint
regal coyote
rocket not related to helix the security company
worthy rose
huh
regal coyote
though the site 76 stole from can be protected by helix most likely
worldly lintel
helix is the egyptian god of rockets
wraith zealot
This included Watchpoint: Grand Mesa, where he stole a pulse rifle. Helix Security International personnel attempted to engage him, but 76 escaped apprehension.
it was in grand mesa
regal coyote
yes he got it from xxxxx Mesa, and he took the care not to kill anyoen when doing it, also maybe he took other stuff as well?
like a bunch of healing canisters and what not
worthy rose
@regal coyote Morrison stole the Heavy Pulse Rifle from Watchpoint: Grand Mesa wounding several Helix Guards in the process
limpid agate
Read the first paragraph, first thought
Hakim outta nowhere? Who would have thought he would come back to relevance.
I'll be back when I;m done
worthy rose
k let us know what you think about the read @limpid agate
peak escarp
the short story is a sequel to Old Soldiers
wraith zealot
None of the personnel were killed, though some were treated for non-threatening injuries. @worthy rose
worthy rose
did I say kill? I said wounding
wraith zealot
it seems you were right about ana doctor six
she had a big role in keeping the overwatch together
with her gone gabe and jack went against eachother
inland lichen
so do we know things about vincent?
regal coyote
@worthy rose hence i say no-kill
regal coyote
also likely Mesa is where he got the healing canisters, which we know he owns, evenf rom lore, as we see them on the map
worn solar
I’m just amazed that Soldier actually laughed in the bastet story
regal coyote
which make me wonder, did his heist includes getting supply for the nanos used by ana's rifle? or resupply in this case
worldly lintel
i think that's a woman
peak escarp
same picture they're talking about in Bastet
worthy rose
no, confirmed man in the short story
pliant sparrow
The picture of the old overwatch team with the two unnamed Overwatch members, could Vincent be the one on the bottom left?
regal coyote
no
pliant sparrow
Ah
regal coyote
do we know the circumstance where pharah took ana's family name instead
peak escarp
maybe Ana didnt take Sam's name when they married
so Fareeha was given her mother's name
restive flower
"Vincent"
peak escarp
I don't know how it works in Egypt when mother and father have different names
molten geyser
Ana likely kept her own name. She was a strong woman known most as being “captain Amari”
Though what if Sam’s last name was Amari 🤔
And they were married for a while
frosty shell
I assume that Vincent was in the US Army and never got into Overwatch
restive flower
Gabe has a family?
inland lichen
might just imply like close family
regal coyote
granted, many first nation people have totall unimportant family name. those are for the white man for ease of communication
inland lichen
mom n dad n stuff like that
regal coyote
since things like "a bull sitting" is not too fun to use
molten geyser
I think it’s implying he had a spouse and maybe children, idk.
inland lichen
maybe
molten geyser
Soldier seems sad saying “at least you both had a family”
I’m sure soldier had parents.
regal coyote
yes i have some nation people i know who still use the classical names
inland lichen
gabe n his family prob will be its own story
molten geyser
Definitely looking forward to it.
peak escarp
he means family as in a spouse and children
molten geyser
I want a Reaper Daughter who joins Overwatch to try to bring her father back to the good side.
peak escarp
not parents/siblings
inland lichen
please god let it be mercy and make some sort of life death hybrid that shits cool a shell
restive flower
the amount of roasting reinhardt recieved
regal coyote
i am sure the "had family" talk is about them BEING parents, nto having parents
fair widget
soldiers gay
peak escarp
@inland lichen that wouldn't make sense
restive flower
it seems that reinhardt is "that guy" who nobody ever forgets
inland lichen
it prob wont happen
peak escarp
Mercy's parents died in the crisis
iron plume
and also stop trying to make mercy edgy holy shit
inland lichen
??
molten geyser
Mercy’s also th same age as Reaper, roughly, isn’t she?
Her medicine just doesn’t age her, I thought.
pliant sparrow
She’s 37
iron plume
she wasn't
inland lichen
yeah she was?
fair widget
she was pictured with the original team but she was still a young student at the time
she later joined
pliant sparrow
She was visiting just before she went to study in Switzerland wasn’t she?
In the picture
peak escarp
correct
iron plume
not just study, but yes
teal meadow
Does widow still feel some emptions?
pliant sparrow
She seems to have something for Gerard but we don’t really know
inland lichen
X?D
fair widget
teal meadow
Yea, expecially on the picture of christmas
pliant sparrow
excuse me wat
inland lichen
everyone in OW is actually dead
pliant sparrow
So is the thing that’s preventing soldier from healing the same thing that’s scarred Gabe?
inland lichen
both have the soldier enhancement program stuff in them
worthy rose
Moira's modified biotics presumably did whatever to reaper
teal meadow
Reyes got his powers from moira, but he lost control of it and killed him inside after a fight with morrison. This is what I think
inland lichen
it probably had something to do with the soldier enhancement stuff too
pliant sparrow
Reyes isn’t dead
limpid agate
It seems to be Moira's tempering that is preventing him from healing fully, keeping his skin "black"
Ana calls her out on it
teal meadow
@pliant sparrow his body is decomposing
limpid agate
Damned Scientist
worthy rose
If you look at moira's right hand, it seems weirdly dead
inland lichen
its decomposing and regenerating at the same time
teal meadow
@inland lichen^
inland lichen
but he has somewhat control over it
worthy rose
I think that effect times ten is throughout reaper's body
pliant sparrow
The soldier serum is counteracting the decomposition I think
iron plume
it heals normal wounds but not reaper's shots
inland lichen
prob\
limpid agate
@worthy rose I liked it. It was different. What I didn't like was the format of random quotes and pictures taking up pages in the middle, before they happened
pliant sparrow
Do we know of anyone else moira has experimented on?
limpid agate
But I assume that's a consequence of the pdf format
Looks like it was made for a booklet
inland lichen
we dont know 100% who else she was experementing on
limpid agate
If you do left/right it looks fine
limpid agate
@pliant sparrow Reaper, and possibly the members of Talon
pliant sparrow
Hm
teal meadow
Mcree would refuse
limpid agate
She has a line about Widowmaker's condition
And the Retribution elites were all genetically modified
pliant sparrow
That’s true
worthy rose
The way it would work in the Arab world is if Ana's marriage was not part of their recognized marriage laws (even though still a marriage) Pharah would have her mother's family name. This is a plausible explanation for that question posed earlier.
limpid agate
The Sniper specifically shared her and Reaper's particle effects
teal meadow
Yeah, moira brainwashed widow
limpid agate
No
teal meadow
Yes
limpid agate
Widow is more than just "brainwashed"
teal meadow
You know what I mean
limpid agate
Widow's physicality was altered as well
worthy rose
@limpid agate thanks for the summary 😃 I see it's written as a "news article" more than a short-story per se, at least in the traditional sense.
limpid agate
I like how it answered questions we wanted to learn, answers we didn't know we wanted, introduced new stuff, and left questions in a good way
worthy rose
oh I have a question on Widow's physicality.
Apart from the blue-ish hue to her skin. What about her mind/sensory?
limpid agate
This is the best development since Masquerade
pliant sparrow
That’s true
worthy rose
(I apologize if answered before)
teal meadow
I still think Bob is balderick
limpid agate
@worthy rose Her heart slowed down, which is why her skin is blue.
It makes her a better sniper
pliant sparrow
Her emotional capabilities appear to be almost non-existent
limpid agate
^ Probably also because
"Heart" slowed down
But it also helps her be a better sniper
inland lichen
she was a sleeper agent wasnt she
worthy rose
She really loved Gerard and I think Overwatch made that background story exceptionally well since it is one of the stronger points of direct intrigue. This doesn't mean the others are not well done/developed and what not, but it does mean it is a solid and crisp example of traditional intrigue.
limpid agate
SEP was expanded on a bit, as was Reaper's weapons
Hakim was wrapped up, so he shouldn't be a problem anymore
Hamid was namedropped (hero 30 hype, I called it)
pliant sparrow
Do we know if Soldier knows about rogue overwatch?
worthy rose
yea the past tense closure to him should tidy that up nicely now
limpid agate
Maybe
The weird things at the end were
Reaper has a family
So I guess that's what Reflections was
peak escarp
I like the personality it added for Jack and Ana
Ana is bad cook
Jack is stubborn and sometimes childish
limpid agate
Yes
peak escarp
and impatient
limpid agate
The personality is where Overwatch excels overall
pliant sparrow
I’m wondering, why didn’t ana use her healing darts to help jacks wounds? Or did she?
limpid agate
She did in the comic
peak escarp
and it confirms that Ana did send that letter to Fareeha, but she didnt respond
she might still be mad at her
limpid agate
But personality is Overwatch's main selling point. Even the weakest comic still has personality.
pliant sparrow
So I Angela still in Israel if Ana thought about taking soldier to her?
limpid agate
She's in the middle east
worthy rose
@limpid agate that one is rich
pliant sparrow
Ah
pliant sparrow
That would be cool
Do we know where Ashe stands in terms of skill level as a sniper?
limpid agate
Not as good as Ana/Widow
peak escarp
we know McCree is a better shot than her
frosty shell
McCree also got training from Ana
peak escarp
I think that was just because they refused his group photo from Old Soldiers
worthy rose
Solder 76 is gay?
worthy rose
Since when was Soldier 76 gay?
peak escarp
since today
fair widget
i’m glad about it
it’s sweet
i hope we’re going to get some more frequent lore drops in the form of short stories
the fact this is dropping january 7th makes me hopeful
brisk bay
is there a new comic or something?
limpid agate
Yes
brisk bay
does it retcon anything?
iron plume
...
brisk bay
I'm asking bc it's chu lol
iron plume
rofl please
inland lichen
its kinda just old soldiers part 2
brisk bay
"corrects"
iron plume
yes, corrects
the only "retcon" was an actual misconception spread from a marketing piece
that was never supposed to be canon
brisk bay
ah, oke
peak escarp
Chu is a good writer, and this story shows it
brisk bay
nice
I might try it out later
although I've never been interested too much in ow lore
I did read the comics tho
peak escarp
maybe this will spark your interest
the story is a continuation of the comic Old Soldiers, so read that first
peak escarp
might want to refresh your memory then
white cobalt
Was auto heal listed for soldier?
test subject and an enhanced soldier in the American armed
forces. ```This is new for me
white cobalt
I know not in game
worthy rose
I suspect it's too slow for it to be useful while actually fighting.
white cobalt
Huh, I'll check it
peak escarp
yeah, it's not really a combat ability
he probably heals in days what would take normal people weeks to heal
iron plume
...yeah we noticed lol
fair widget
reef thicket
hollow ermine
weary turtle
Dont forget about reaper shooting with bio-bullet-things
reef thicket
wot
limpid agate
Did you read it yet
reef thicket
ew
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eh no
i watched a video about and he just mentions its alot of back and fourth
so
not gonna bother
iron plume
of course that's what you take away from it if you just watch a video
weary turtle
So it would seem
iron plume
he's had a relationship with a man a long time ago
may be gay, may be bi
limpid agate
His relationship was touched on at the end and isn't that important overall
Who gives a shit what he is.
iron plume
well the people who want representation do
and good for them
but that really isn't what the comic is about
limpid agate
It gets a quarter of a page in a 14 page story. Just read the bloody story.
iron plume
if that and "wtf blizzard" is what you take away from it, please actually read it and see everything else
idle wraith
Anyone know where to find someone reading this?
iron plume
I doubt there is one, yet anyway
idle wraith
Unfortunately don't have time to read it
limpid agate
It just came out a few hours ago.
plucky smelt
if "wtf blizzard" is your reaction to them revealing that ONE (1) more character in the game is gay/bi/whatever, then just go ahead and exit the game 4ever
limpid agate
No one recorded it yet
idle wraith
@plucky smelt To be fair the lore and game are seperate
You can enjoy a game, but not like the lore
plucky smelt
do we really need that sort of mindset in 2019
iron plume
can we not start this shit
plucky smelt
and on that point, exactly, the lore and game are entirely separate
idle wraith
Some people just don't agree with it, nothing you can do except ignore them
Doesn't hurt them so they shouldn't care
iron plume
he's not even said he's against gay heroes in general, just that it wasn't expected to be soldier
plucky smelt
the lore writers didn't create the game so why complain about a tiny point
iron plume
either way, it's not a topic for this channel
idle wraith
And to be fair, I agree. It was a little out of left field.
Like saying my grandpa is gay
weary turtle
Please not that much shitposting because im going to read it all tomorrow 😅
idle wraith
🤷
weary turtle
Just dont bitch about gender preferences :D
iron plume
I'm not talking about spoilers
I'm talking about throwing shit at people and telling them to quit the game
could do with less of that
idle wraith
Always can
plucky smelt
i'm talking to mvp lmfao
iron plume
He's referring to shitposting so I'm not sure what that's on about
plucky smelt
also the quit the game thing? it was a joke please chill
reef thicket
wow
iron plume
either way it's not relevant to this channel
severe oxide
Called it
idle wraith
Haha
plucky smelt
szksks its a joke please breathe children
iron plume
hey veex
weary turtle
Yeah this was the thing i wanted to prevent 😅
lean prawn
plucky smelt
read words
reef thicket
and its not that i dont like gay people its just i cant imagine how much more cancerous fanfiction / fanart bullshit is gonna come out about how solider is gay / bi
xD
severe oxide
It does have pictures
iron plume
I doubt the amount of that will change
plucky smelt
gay soldier fanfiction isnt all over twitter
severe oxide
It’s what we all love
severe oxide
Anyway, my trans Sombra theory is still possible. That’s coming next
reef thicket
...
wait
trans is like
acting like a guy if ur a girl right?
because they feel more like that gender
severe oxide
It’s identifying as a gender different from the one corresponding to your biological sex
fair widget
oof
maybe you guys should google some of these things instead of asking here
specifically speaking to night
severe oxide
Lore discussion is a good place to learn stuff
It’s where the nerds who know stuff are
fair widget
yeah but google knows all
and overwatch lore thread isn’t the place to learn about what it is to be transgender
i support ur theory doe
severe oxide
I’m sure they can do their in depth research later if they so choose
fair widget
yeah guess so. just not really up for wanting to talk about lore and being hit with “acting like a guy if ur a girl”
not the place
severe oxide
My theory is just a head canon, which is not really something you’re encouraged to discuss here, but the lore is usually so scarce it might as well be brought up a little
But again, there’s nothing really supporting it aside from the fact that it fits thematically
fair widget
head canons are lore unless micheal says otherwise
severe oxide
With the whole “change of identity” thing
severe oxide
And?
fair widget
touchy area
severe oxide
Children are very androgynous
fair widget
i suppose
white cobalt
Oof, so Soldier knows about Reinhardt whereabouts
severe oxide
I mean, rein wasn’t really working in secret
white cobalt
Also Ana is wondering from where is him getting a lot of info
They're like fara away, not even close, maybe press
severe oxide
I’m sure he can do some espionage
white cobalt
He could have some contacts yeah, but dunno why I was thinking of some deal with Sombra
limpid agate
Some interesting note is
This happens between Old Soldiers and Reflections
Making the two events much closer than we had previously thought
severe oxide
They had like 4 chances to mention torb and they didn’t, they just kept mentioning rein
Rude
limpid agate
I'm still sitting on the thought that
Hamid was not namedropped by accident
He's coming up in a big way
white cobalt
Prague incident, that's not white dome right?
iron plume
no
limpid agate
White Dome is Turkey.
With Torb/Ana/Rein/Emre
Prague is Czech.
With Rein/Ana/Jack
white cobalt
And there is Rio do Janeiro, only Jack/Ana/Gabe
limpid agate
Yeah
Lots of places and events we can visit
There's still the Cairo incident which... I am really interested in now
We hear of two things Overwatch did in Cairo, and I wonder if they're the same
1 - Mentioned in Uprising, an official died (assumed to be Gerard)
2 - Anubis Program was shut down
I like this mention in particular
It makes it feel like less of an Omnic Crisis era thing
white cobalt
Ana blames Overwatch for the presence and Anubis
limpid agate
More of something Egypt as a country was working on
That OW shut down
It definitely feels more recent
I'd like to see some of that
white cobalt
Also, Farehaa knows about her mother whereabouts?
Or she is busy/don't believe it
There is a lot of lore here
The wound on Jack maybe is due old age, or maybe some bio weapon
storm cedar
That newest story, Oof, influx of Reaper76 inc
white cobalt
But both are surprised about how is taking too much time to heal
storm cedar
Honestly, if that’s direction they went, one of the many reasons why the split happened, unrequited love, especially if they are straight, seems like a fun story to tell
limpid agate
I like Soldier being gay for exactly one reason.
They won't shoehorn a romance between him and Ana.
The less interhero relationships, the better
storm cedar
I just like the idea of there being more reason to fight each other than “gabe, killing people isn’t goood gaaaaabbeee
white cobalt
Twitter
fair widget
hell fuckin yeah
white cobalt
No bi, straight gay
limpid agate
Ok.
And that's that. We were told there were LGBT heroes plural in game 2 years ago
limpid agate
Now we know about heroes.
reef thicket
vincent is hero 30
limpid agate
So we can move on from the debate.
reef thicket
kidding
fair widget
next mccree then we’re good
vincent is hero 30
main ability
make soldier cry so he can’t shoot
worthy rose
oh yeah i remembred something now http://prntscr.com/m48076
limpid agate
Vincent is not hero 30
worthy rose
so he is confirmed to be gay
limpid agate
That was just posted
worthy rose
not bi , so my fantasy of him picking up chicks is ruined
fair widget
isa joke
worthy rose
fucking great
fair widget
good
worthy rose
fair widget
he’s gay
white cobalt
Not shitpost please
limpid agate
I don't care if it's a joke. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
fair widget
well i guess you can fantasize about what you like
uneven hemlock
"let's just wait two years so we can max out those social media points"
white cobalt
Let's not convert this in another "guys, tracer is lesbian"
fair widget
but it’s not canon
worthy rose
wait what do you mean by no canon?
limpid agate
He means your "fantasy of him picking up chicks"
fair widget
means it wouldn’t have actually happened in the story
fair widget
well
limpid agate
No well.
fair widget
unconfirmed not non canon
strange thing to fantasize about though
and i hope they carry on
iron plume
oh boy here we go
limpid agate
They confirmed there was a second LGBT hero 2 years ago
And now we know who it is
Because they don't want to just say
Look at this guy, he's gay
They left a clue in Reflections that people speculated about
And then slipped it into this story because it felt relevant
It was interesting though.
fair widget
yeah to be fair i don’t think the wait for the reveal of another lgbt hero was unwarranted
the wait for any kind of lore is long
iron plume
"no one is really reading this story and going "ooh, this ana lore is interesting"
you know what channel you're in right
fair widget
lol
iron plume
just because your favorite shitposting overwatch youtuber only brings up the gay thing, it doesn't mean there's no other story in that work
limpid agate
No it didnt
iron plume
so be it
iron plume
even if it's more talked about
fair widget
everything else mentioned
limpid agate
I forgot about it until I was pinged with that tweet 10 minutes ago
iron plume
it is within the framing of the story when it's relevant
fair widget
i think it was handled well
limpid agate
Its an unimportant detail they added to give more flavour to the character, like Reaper's family or Emily.
fair widget
if it were a woman in the same place you wouldn’t think it was “outshining” anything
it would be standard procedure for you
so just move along and focus on the rest
limpid agate
The only relationships that matter are Amelie/Gerard (because of Widowmaker), Ana/Sam (because of Pharah), and Torb/Ingrid (because of Brig)
fair widget
interesting that you call a man talking about his previous boyfriend unnatural
limpid agate
No one is fighting to protect their family or loved ones, so having named family/loved ones is mostly important.
fair widget
to be expected though
limpid agate
Other than Ana
iron plume
Tracer's is set up that way
fair widget
just not sure how it’s unnatural
iron plume
not fighting for Emily specifically, but I feel like this is a "hero personally invested in the fight" moment
limpid agate
Tracer could be single and not one part of her characterization or motives would change
iron plume
Disagree on that
limpid agate
@uneven hemlock It was a question at Blizzcon
fair widget
simply replace vincent with a woman. is it unnatural now or is it just a regular story
limpid agate
Someone asked in the Q&A if there were any LGBT heroes
They said there were heroes plural
Tracer was first. Soldier makes it plural.
fair widget
plural doesn’t mean two
limpid agate
Plural means minimum 2
Meaning we knew for the past 2 yeasr that there was at least one more that existed
fair widget
that’s true
limpid agate
Now the remaining number can be 0
fair widget
i’m not shocked it took so long to reveal another though
i might be but it’s likely not
but that’s not worth discussing
till anything else is confirmed
limpid agate
It could be 1. It could be 5. Could be 20. It's not worth discussing I agree
For all intents and purposes, we have a lesbian hero, a gay hero, 3-5 straight heroes, and that's enough for now.
And Bastion who has no comprehension of sexuality.
fair widget
and orisa
limpid agate
Orisa can have a comprehension of sexuality.
worthy rose
Agree
worthy rose
Maybe later
fair widget
also this is off topic
limpid agate
Maybe later, but it doesnt matter
fair widget
but i want to ask to clear it up cuz i’m not 100%
orisa isn’t an omnic is she? because she was made by a human and not an omnium
is that how that works
worthy rose
She is
fair widget
but orisa wasnt
limpid agate
As well as extra parts Efi bought
worthy rose
Omnics are concious robots
fair widget
so wouldn’t she just be a robot made from inbox parts?
worthy rose
Best explanation
limpid agate
Orisa is just as much of an omnic as you cutting a dumpster in half and putting a new lid and front panel on it.
worthy rose
Yes, she is a dumpster
fair widget
lool
limpid agate
Its still a dumpster.
worthy rose
I wonder what omnics think of non-alive robots
limpid agate
Elaborate
pallid crag
What sentient robots would think of robots that are not sentient
limpid agate
The only non-sentient robots we have seen are the Hyde Global drones.
worthy rose
I would think it would be how humans view animals
fair widget
would orisa try and talk to siri
worthy rose
*similar to
fair widget
what would she think of siri and alexa lol
limpid agate
They don't have real AI
iron plume
he is
limpid agate
@pseudo vale Read the short story
worthy rose
actually really unexpected xd
cedar moon
Can’t soldier be poly/bi/pan or is it just confirmed he’s homosexual and no part heterosexual
K
midnight nest
I mean
The picture of jack and Vincent was in the reflections comic
So he’s been gay since 2016
Ugh crimes of grindelwald
Hammond is a hamster
What
It rlly doesn’t if any of the characters are gay or straight
fair widget
midnight nest
Overwatch is gonna be free to play in June if I’m correct
limpid agate
@tardy forge Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
@midnight nest Based on what
midnight nest
Uhh lemme get the article
fair widget
i’ve heard that too but from what i’ve seen it’s nothing more than youtube rumours and “articles”
fair widget
if they make it free to play so be it, but there better be a reward for every account that is never released to any account made after it’s been made free to play
limpid agate
And game sales are still going strong.
midnight nest
Yes
fair widget
yes he is
worthy rose
midnight nest
Look at Michael chu’s twitter
fair widget
save it for somewhere else
umbral fiber
AND IN OTHER NEWS'
fair widget
save it for somewhere else
midnight nest
Bro why is it ‘sadly’
midnight nest
Yeah let’s not
limpid agate
!!bastet
fair widget
moving on
twilit nacelleBOT
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
limpid agate
Read the short story.
midnight nest
I’m a lesbian with a girlfriend so
fair widget
“different opinion”
midnight nest
🤷
umbral fiber
How about you both take your heads out of your ass
limpid agate
My sexual orientation is not important, and neither is my relationship status.
umbral fiber
If he is a homphobe (which his differing opinion remark implies), he's a fuck
fair widget
what reason is it to be “sadly”
limpid agate
Soldier being gay or not doesn't matter. Both sides of this are annoying.
midnight nest
Ya imma jus not argue it
limpid agate
If you are going to be hostile for or against
cerulean prism
New skin for Ana confirmed?????
midnight nest
Rip
umbral fiber
It was the second statement that proved him to be a fuck
ebon laurel
Can we talk about something else please
limpid agate
@umbral fiber Final warning
fair widget
i’m trying not to be hostile but it also can’t be ignored
umbral fiber
@uneven hemlock Honestly, because I went back and forth whether Vincent was his ex or his son
fair widget
let’s talk about the ana skin
cerulean prism
Who tf cares if Soldier likes his walls to be smashed.
umbral fiber
So I"m glad for the clarification
ebon laurel
Yeah, the ana skin looks cool
umbral fiber
Because I'm a dunce
fair widget
where is the design from do we think?
midnight nest
The ana skin is pretty
cerulean prism
^
fair widget
why is she wearing that
midnight nest
But imma stick to snow owl
cerulean prism
I'm so copping that skin
limpid agate
@fair widget Read the short story
midnight nest
It’s the goddess bastet
fair widget
oh true
cerulean prism
Snow Owl is best skin tbh
fair widget
i’m at work and haven’t been able to yet lmfao
cerulean prism
I might swap between the two though.
fair widget
it’s really pretty
cerulean prism
I'm still reading the story.
umbral fiber
The story was, writing quality wise, about an 8th grader's work
cerulean prism
^
ebon laurel
True
cerulean prism
Immediately I kinda cringed at a lot of the wording choices.
limpid agate
!!Bastet
fair widget
not to stir the pot but did there need to be clarification?
twilit nacelleBOT
If you want to talk about the Ana skin, Soldier being gay, or anything else related to the short story, please read it first here: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
midnight nest
I think it was too short
fair widget
it was said in the story so you accept it
cerulean prism
I think it was poorly written.
midnight nest
There was too much information in only 16 pages
umbral fiber
I mean, I'm sorry - Chu's great at art, great at world building...but he sucks at narrative writing
cerulean prism
^
umbral fiber
There's a difference between planning the world, and narratively building it
limpid agate
The story was good for world development
ebon laurel
Didnt they hire a writer a while ago?
limpid agate
I liked it.
midnight nest
I thought the writing itself was good but the structure of the story was bad
cerulean prism
Chu likes changing shit out of nowhere for no reason
limpid agate
What I didn't like was the actual arrangement
fair widget
can you not accept the events without clarification?
midnight nest
Brig was originally the oldest daughter
limpid agate
Random pictures and text filling a whole page for stuff that's 1-2 pages later
midnight nest
Now she’s the youngest
fair widget
what happened happened and it was clear
umbral fiber
Sorry, too fast
fair widget
me
worthy rose
Soldier 70 Dicks reporting for booty
limpid agate
@midnight nest She was never the oldest daughter
cerulean prism
Michael Chu is the J.K Rowling of gaming.
midnight nest
I mean
fair widget
i suppose so
midnight nest
In the reflections comic
tawny panther
Soldier is gay!
fair widget
he is
midnight nest
All the children were said to be torb’s kids
tawny panther
i didnt expect that
cerulean prism
Soldier: jumps down from the table.
I'M GAY.
limpid agate
In the Reflections comic, we were told it was Torb's, quote, "Children and Grandchildren"
fair widget
wasn’t brigittes age lore a mess
umbral fiber
@fair widget You're being an idiot. "I couldn't give him a better life" is something a father OR an ex would say. ALL Chu needed was either Ana or Jack to say something along the lines of "He's moved, found someone right for him", etc, and it would have been clear
midnight nest
O
limpid agate
We were told that from the start
fair widget
oof
twilit yoke
soldier was in my top 5 of people i least expected to be gay
umbral fiber
ALso that
fair widget
a father.. lmfao
limpid agate
People assuming they were just his kids was an actual common misconception
cerulean prism
I expected Soldier to be homophobic tbh
twilit yoke
^
worthy rose
yeah no need to call him an idiot for being confused
umbral fiber
Synth, I refer back to my original statement - stop giving yourself a colonoscopy
midnight nest
Like I said again — the picture of Vincent and jack was in the reflections comic, and though Jack being gay has very little to do with his character, it has been canon for some time
ebon laurel
Well overwatch is set in the future
limpid agate
Moving swiftly onwards
cerulean prism
Reinhardt is extremely gay in my headcanon.
worthy rose
i mean i didn't rly get it til the clarification either
cerulean prism
Like
midnight nest
Reinhardt and Ana flirt but
cerulean prism
extremely gay
midnight nest
go off I guess
twilit yoke
if reinhardt is gay im deleting the game
worthy rose
bisexual rein
limpid agate
This is not a discussion worth having
midnight nest
MOVING ON
cerulean prism
I'd be fine with a bi Rein
limpid agate
Move on to something else
worthy rose
same @cerulean prism
fair widget
sigh
cerulean prism
Gay Winston :^)
twilit yoke
noooo
worthy rose
KFJSKNS
cerulean prism
^
worthy rose
yes .......
cerulean prism
EVERYONE IS GAY
SUPER SMASH BROS.
ebon laurel
🤔
worthy rose
overwatch ultimate
limpid agate
@cerulean prism Shitposting will result in a loss of access
fair widget
“lore discussion”
pseudo vale
I just dont like the way this is going, i dont mind gay characters but it seems like theyre just doing it to please a certain crowd
cerulean prism
I didn't know that, my b.
worthy rose
i mean they only have one other gay character
limpid agate
@pseudo vale We were told there were LGBT heroes plural 2 years ago
limpid agate
First we had Tracer
cerulean prism
Tracer being gay was kinda phoned in tbh.
limpid agate
Soldier makes it plural
worthy rose
i said soldier was my dad before and now he's my gay dad
limpid agate
So now there can be 0 or more LGBT heroes left to be shown
twilit yoke
76 says at least gabe and ana had families
cerulean prism
Now that Soldier is gay watch the McHanzo shippers start frothing at the mouth.
fair widget
“lore discussion”
pseudo vale
I cant see any other characters being gay tbh
worthy rose
i always saw Jesse as bi at least but i dunno bout hanzo
twilit yoke
yes
fair widget
you can’t see them being....
worthy rose
zen lore would be nice
fair widget
pseudo vale
Zenyatta has ascended beyond
twilit yoke
the answer is yes
limpid agate
@cerulean prism Nepal.
cerulean prism
He left the temple
fair widget
zen desperately needs lore
limpid agate
He was last seen at Nepal Village with Genji
cerulean prism
Zen animation WHEN?
fair widget
i think lucio does too
worthy rose
zen is the most pan in the world
fair widget
also hanzo
worthy rose
"gender who i just love everyone"
cerulean prism
A Lucio and Symmetra animation with them at odds together! :D
worthy rose
is there zarya lore
worthy rose
im.new to ovw so i dunno but i love her
cerulean prism
With Links
fair widget
zarya has a little
fair widget
barely any though
cerulean prism
Lucio should really confront Symmetra about Vishkar in an animation.
worthy rose
speaking of lucio i want more.stuff abt him too
fair widget
i would kill for a sym short
cerulean prism
It's already implied she was manipulated by Vishkar.
Lucio could convince her otherwise.
worthy rose
also is Hammond small or is he actually that big
worthy rose
i want a hamster that big
worthy rose
dog sized hamster please
worthy rose
i hear ppl ship him and Winston which ......confuses me but i won't judge i guess
cerulean prism
Do NOT google it
worthy rose
i would never
bleak knot
I'll judge for you
cerulean prism
good
hamsters usually only live a couple years
I wonder if the mutation also made his life span longer
worthy rose
he's mutated so he prob lives long
limpid agate
Hammond is about 1 foot 4
cerulean prism
I was right1
flint briar
Is your pfp Caduceus Clay, @worthy rose
worthy rose
yes !
flint briar
Nice!
cerulean prism
Can we get some more Junkrat and Roadhog machinimas PLEASE?
cerulean prism
Junker Town was really good.
cerulean prism
^
worthy rose
or bastion
untold frost
Is the short story out?
untold frost
I want to seeee
clever phoenix
worthy rose
what's the command i forget uhh
limpid agate
!!bastet
twilit nacelleBOT
If you want to talk about the Ana skin, Soldier being gay, or anything else related to the short story, please read it first here: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
untold frost
Thank you!!!
warped canopy
of all the lore they could give us, they chose what 76 likes to pound. thanks, blizz.
iron plume
they chose the story of Ana and Soldier regrouping after meeting for the first time
and him healing after an attack he's never encountered before
worthy rose
soldier's sexuality was just talked about for a moment
limpid agate
@warped canopy If you want to talk about the Ana skin, Soldier being gay, or anything else related to the short story, please read it first here: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
iron plume
and then going to defeat a criminal that Overwatch has inadvertently brought to power with a necessary choice decades ago
iron plume
definitely not for lunar
flint briar
I'd imagine archive or base
iron plume
archives or a non-event cosmetic drop a la Blizworld
limpid agate
Looks base to me
They might do a cosmetic update
Because we also are waiting on Demon Hunter
worthy rose
all i know is genji needs a new goddamn skin
i thought he'd get a winter one but i guess not smh
median sluice
Soldier 67 should not be gay, change my mind! (Serious discussion only please)
crisp kayak
Blizz said there was another lgbt character when they said tracer was a lesbian soooo
That's enough
iron plume
it's what we've been confirmed
iron plume
there can well still be more
worthy rose
he's still soldier he's just gay and they've most likely planned this for years
median sluice
The more characters they make lgbtqi+/whatever, the more overwatch will be disliked by the general public which will be bad for the game. Also soldier is not the gay type, he's a soldier...
flint briar
Soldiers can be gay
crisp kayak
^
worthy rose
gay men can easily be soldiers , it's weird to think they can't
median sluice
Most gays in the army are bullied/beaten/frowned down upon (thats of course SAD dont get me wrong)
iron plume
you know the game is set in the future right
iron plume
even aside from the fact that you're pulling it out of your ass
median sluice
Its a fact, plenty of articles and documentaries etc about it
worthy rose
this lore wasn't about him. it was about ana. they're not gonna go deep into his sexuality because it's not needed. he's just a gay man and that's it
flint briar
Also, him being gay won't spark much dislike, really.
median sluice
@worthy rose we can still discuss that
flint briar
Well put, ken
worthy rose
gay men can be soldiers. it's not exclusive to straight men
it's not even exclusive to men
median sluice
Men are better soldiers though.
worthy rose
oof.
flint briar
Oh boy
fair widget
worthy rose
sexism
median sluice
Bioligically speaking
median sluice
Dude I'm not finished
iron plume
@fair widget, mods are there for that
median sluice
BIOLOGICALLY
worthy rose
no you're done please go
iron plume
admin ping is for serverwide issues
cerulean prism
Drop it.
fair widget
<@&397922982632226816>
median sluice
Like avg human reaction speed is faster for males but doesnt mean woman cant be soldiers??
limpid agate
What is it now
iron plume
@median sluice is rambling on about irrelevant shit
limpid agate
!!loreOnly
twilit nacelleBOT
This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
fiery tundra
Just read all of chat history 4head
worthy rose
oof men aren't better soldiers pls stop
median sluice
We're discussing about soldier67 and the comic