#lore-discussion | Overwatch | Page 363

valid shell Dec 1, 2018, 9:16 PM

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Her current symbol is very intentional.

regal coyote Dec 1, 2018, 9:16 PM

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actually on the dev thing they mentionusing both athena and vishkar symbol on it at one point or another

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her current symbol is intensional yes

valid shell Dec 1, 2018, 9:17 PM

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And it looks uncannily close to Vishkar's logo.

regal coyote Dec 1, 2018, 9:17 PM

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but given dev specifically say it is not vishkar i guess we can be sure of that

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i think the current symbol is meant to be a flower

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or something

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dev said the model looks better with some symbol

dire timber Dec 1, 2018, 9:31 PM

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I think it could be that Echo could be based on someone's consciousness

cedar galleon Dec 1, 2018, 10:15 PM

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One day the lord will bless us and we'll see a civilian bot in action

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How they use guns and whatnot

peak escarp Dec 1, 2018, 10:16 PM

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why would a civilian have guns?

heady fern Dec 1, 2018, 10:17 PM

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Might be Winston who built her

iron plume Dec 1, 2018, 10:17 PM

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you know how one can tell you're not an american

valid shell Dec 1, 2018, 10:20 PM

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@cedar galleon Okoro had a gun.

cedar galleon Dec 1, 2018, 11:34 PM

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I meant the civilian type of bot for example max or one of the deadlock omnics

valid shell Dec 1, 2018, 11:41 PM

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📎 3-7.png

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He looks close enough.

dire timber Dec 1, 2018, 11:46 PM

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his head is kinda unique

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... but his chest isn't

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wait, hold on

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Okoro shoots himself in the head, doesn't he?

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well, there goes my "omnic core is the chest" theory

dawn knot Dec 1, 2018, 11:52 PM

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well

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our hearts power us

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but our brains that use that power to control us

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are in our heads

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could be the same deal

dire timber Dec 1, 2018, 11:58 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/dO8Ynpa.png

Imgur

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what's up with these neck pistons, anyway

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they look kinda strange

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but every omnic has those

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and most omnics have that chest thing

iron plume Dec 1, 2018, 11:59 PM

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the pistons are how their head moves basically

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you know how if you clench your teeth you have tendons that pull up from shoulders

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 12:00 AM

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can they open their "mouths"?

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or are those golden chins for aesthetic

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 12:02 AM

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depends

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some can, some cant'

iron plume Dec 2, 2018, 12:02 AM

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have we actually seen any of them to?

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 12:03 AM

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we've seen Max, but I'm not convinced if that's not by mistake

iron plume Dec 2, 2018, 12:03 AM

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oh right

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 12:03 AM

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he opens his mouth when he shouts "no"

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but at all other times

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he speaks with it completely shut

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so

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??

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not sure what to make of it

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 12:04 AM

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i'd take that as a mistake ngl

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 12:10 AM

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Orisa and B.O.B. have eye articulation, Max (seemingly) can open his mouth, but that's it.

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 12:12 AM

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i mean

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max also has

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a "hair like" metal plate on his head

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so perhaps he just

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fashioned himself to be more human-like

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to fit in with talon somehow

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he also sports talon's colours in his

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eyes

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and gun metal chassis rather than the lighter grey of other omnics

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so i wouldn't be surprised if that were the case

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 12:27 AM

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B.O.B. also has 'hair'.

peak escarp Dec 2, 2018, 12:32 AM

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he does?

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 12:43 AM

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On his face.

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 12:49 AM

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ah his mustache

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i think perhaps a lot of omnics have

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some aesthetic things they either change about themselves or

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have from the beginning

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perhaps he was made to look that way to give him a "butler aesthetic"

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as that's just what he is

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imo he looks like an omnic that hasn't gained total 'freedom' yet

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unlike those who walk the streets of numbani

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and very unlike the shambali

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there's ought to be stages to it

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and rn bob is just fulfilling his main purpose

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and looking the part too

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so perhaps after they gain full volition over their actions by whatever means

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they remove these pieces that made them look like

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maids/butlers/construction workers/etc

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or add on other features that they like or agree with

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like lynx and his little antennae thingies

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though it perhaps serves a functional purpose

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it is nonetheless something he most likely added himself

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 1:18 AM

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It's odd that B.O.B. is mute.

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We know Bastion is mute, and so are the OR-14's/15's (because Efi had to buy a voicebox for Orisa), but that makes sense because they're all combat bots.

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Meanwhile, Zenyatta, Mondatta, Maximilien, Okoro, and Lynx can all speak.

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But B.O.B., despite being the same humanoid model as those others, albeit bigger, can't speak.

peak escarp Dec 2, 2018, 1:21 AM

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maybe he can and just hasn't

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 1:21 AM

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Possible.

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He obviously wasn't conceived to speak in Reunion, because at that point, he was just a setpiece for the nonplayable NPC that was Ashe.

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 1:49 AM

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@valid shell huh, OR14s are mute?

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I didn't imagine them to be

paper pond Dec 2, 2018, 1:50 AM

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Perhaps B.O.B can speak, but he's just a gentleman cause Ashe runs the show. Maybe he's also going off the "silent Bob" vibe.

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 1:50 AM

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I feel like being mute would make their duties harder

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@dawn knot I have this thesis that while all civilian omnics are sentient, they're still pre-programmed for certain jobs

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butlers, waiters, bartenders, etc.

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it's not that they hard-coded for these jobs – they're just compelled to stay in their niches

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and for the most part, identifying and overcoming these pre-programmed tendencies is a big part of what Shambali awakening was about

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and a big part of their teachings

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allowing them to properly decide for themselves what they want to be

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 1:56 AM

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If they weren't mute, they would have said "EXTERMINATE ANNIHILATE DESTROY" in Honor & Glory, instead of just "BOOWWMM".

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 1:56 AM

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sorry, I meant OR15s

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 1:57 AM

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I would think 15's could speak, but Efi did buy an Axiom Vocal Processor.

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 1:57 AM

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hmm

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 1:57 AM

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That might just have been for Orisa's specific cadence though.

peak escarp Dec 2, 2018, 1:58 AM

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maybe she just wanted a friendlier voice

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 1:58 AM

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I feel that would have been easy for her to download or code, though.

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Having to order the piece itself suggest the lack of it beforehand.

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 1:59 AM

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what's a Branford arm?

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:00 AM

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I dunno!

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Tolbelstein is obviously her HALT, and Fusion Driver is her ultimate (I think).

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Or just her power core.

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Or both.

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Could it be her gun?

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:01 AM

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Fusion Driver, huh?

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:01 AM

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Oh!

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Fusion Driver is her gun.

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:01 AM

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what's her weap– yeah, was gonna ask that

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:02 AM

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...Efi was allowed to order a firearm.

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Africa.

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I guess Branford Arm is just her left arm?

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:02 AM

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did OR15s not use the Fusion Driver?

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:03 AM

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But that's not right. Orisa's left arm is identical to the OR-15 arm.

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She could have just salvaged one.

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📎 Orisa_Skin_Classic.png

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📎 Orisa_Skin_OR15.png

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:04 AM

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I think it could be that the chassis itself didn't come with the gun and shield deployment device

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so they had to be ordered separately

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:05 AM

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It could be - and I hate this explanation - that Orisa's OR-15 skin is limited by being an epic, and doesn't actually represent the differences between the two iterations.

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:06 AM

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I mean, there's a picture with a bunch of OR15s

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and they look exactly the same

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I think they even have the shields

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... wait

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I want to check OR14s in Honor and Glory

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:08 AM

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For?

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:08 AM

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to see if they have that shield deployment device too

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cause they sure shouldn't

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:08 AM

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📎 Orisa_Skin_Null_Sector.png

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:18 AM

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they have

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sword dealies though

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which is made of some sort of

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technology we've not seen before

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not hardlight, as that's blue

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it

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would be strange for them to break that in such a vital piece of lore

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:19 AM

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@dawn knot I mean, it IS hard-light

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:19 AM

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perhaps an early version

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or an omnic version

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:19 AM

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no, I mean

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:19 AM

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or maybe it just isn't

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:19 AM

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I don't understand you guys

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"hard-light" is literally just a type of tech

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like "laser"

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:20 AM

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ik but it seems a little deeper than that

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for whatever reason

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all hardlight constructs shown so far

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are blue

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and so it's strange to me that

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this "Sword" is shown as orange red

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:20 AM

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you're overthinking this

long ermine Dec 2, 2018, 2:21 AM

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i dont think hardlight is only blue lol

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:21 AM

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lucio's hard light skates are yellow

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but we dont know if hard light can produce heat

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the or 14 blades featured in honour and glory cauterized rein's eye, which stopped it from bleeding

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:22 AM

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It might just be plasma.

long ermine Dec 2, 2018, 2:22 AM

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looking too far into that I think. They can't show anything too gory

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:22 AM

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plasma seems likely

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also i hadn't thought about lucio's skates ngl

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such a strange inconsistency

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just for lucio

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perhaps it's a unique/updated kind

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:23 AM

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Nah, it checks out.

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It's repurposed Vishkar tech, after all.

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:23 AM

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the wound was cauterized

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:24 AM

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well sure but

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i mean

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what exactly are you trying to say

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:24 AM

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We know Symmetra walks on hard-light, so it can't be hot.

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:24 AM

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but all constructs she makes are blue

long ermine Dec 2, 2018, 2:24 AM

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well we don't know it can't be

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:24 AM

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blue like rein's shields

long ermine Dec 2, 2018, 2:24 AM

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we just know it isn't in that case

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:24 AM

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we also know hard light can create more complex solid objects

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:24 AM

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The colour doesn't matter.

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:24 AM

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and winston's bubble

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i understand

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but what exactly makes these things blue

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seems to be intrinsically connected to

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what makes them them

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because if not it would be formatted to have different colours for different situations

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granted

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in a game sense it

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figures

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:25 AM

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Whyt

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:25 AM

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if i had to guess, it's photons leaning into the particle side of their wave-particle duality

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:25 AM

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Are you typing

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Like

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This

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:25 AM

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but im no physicist

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:25 AM

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Give someone

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:25 AM

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as you want all "shield" type things to have the same colour

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:25 AM

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Else a turn

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To post

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Something

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Instead

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Of occupying

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An entire hour

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With your one thought

long ermine Dec 2, 2018, 2:26 AM

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staaahp

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:26 AM

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but its strange to me to say the least

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:26 AM

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is there a physicist in this chat

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:26 AM

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lol that would be amazing

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:27 AM

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Honestly, if protective/solid hard-light is blue, and the frictionless hard-light Lucio uses to skate on is green, I could see hot, weaponized hard-light being red.

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Like the OR-14's arm-sword in H&G.

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:27 AM

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symmetra uses weaponized hard light, which is blue

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:27 AM

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fair enough, but we would have definitely seen this "frictionless" version of hardlight before

long ermine Dec 2, 2018, 2:27 AM

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Doesn't lucios change though

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green to yellow

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:27 AM

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that's most likely

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:27 AM

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and lucio's does change

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:27 AM

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just a game quirk

long ermine Dec 2, 2018, 2:27 AM

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or has that not been shown in any canon

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ah ok

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:27 AM

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i have no idea but

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the whole "healer" thing with lucio

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:28 AM

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but until we get more lucio lore

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:28 AM

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isn't even canon

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:28 AM

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blizzard get the fuck on lucio lore pls

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:28 AM

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so i wouldn't take it as such

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^

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:28 AM

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Eeeehhh I would argue Symmetra's photon projector is just a gun of a different flavor.

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She doesn't use it to construct hard-light.

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She uses her prosthetic arm.

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:28 AM

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it's most likely a "laser gun"

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while her arm deals in hardlight

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:28 AM

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So we still haven't seen harmful hard-light.

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:29 AM

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can someone look at symmetra's teleporter animation, when she makes it

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because i'm pretty sure her photon projector just disappears while she's casting teleporter

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:29 AM

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https://d1u1mce87gyfbn.cloudfront.net/hero/symmetra/ability-teleporter-pad/video-ability.webm

▶ Play video

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:30 AM

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michael chu said that the game wasn't canon when it came to overwatch lore, but im still gonna say her gun is hard light

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:30 AM

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Yeah, her Photon Projector is basically a sci-fi arc-welder, like it was slated in her initial concept when she was just called 'Architect'.

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As far as we've seen, it has nothing to do with hard-light.

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Well, that's not true.

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She reloads it with hard-light.

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:31 AM

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but we know that hard light can be used to create complicated objects

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:31 AM

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Yeah.

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:31 AM

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the hard-light emitter is her hand

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:31 AM

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it isn't much of a stretch to say that symmetra's proton projector is made out of hard light

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:32 AM

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It seems like permanent solid hard-light is white, temporary solid hard-light is blue, frictionless mobility hard-light is green, and weaponized hard-light might be red/orange? Depending on what the OR-14 is using?

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:32 AM

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can hard light create heat tho

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:32 AM

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I like to make a distinction between hard-light and light solidification, even though "hard-light" is mostly used in reference to the latter

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:33 AM

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Orisa punches, right? Would be neat if she's given a blade stab on her OR-14 skin.

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:33 AM

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where hard-light is temporary, creating energy shields or blades, Vishkar specializes in light solidification

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:33 AM

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and solidified light is permanent?

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they make cities out of that shit

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:34 AM

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which turns light into either solid, permanent structures, or temporary devices

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 2:34 AM

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^ Would be helpful if it was confirmed that hard-light is a worldwide patentless tech, used in barriers everywhere, but the white hard-light structures is Vishkar-only.

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:34 AM

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maybe vishkar patented a certain way of making hard light, like how mcdonalds cant patent burgers but they can patent the big mac

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this hard light stuff at least has some basis in reality

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tracer's pseudoscience just fucks with the mind

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:38 AM

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like i feel as though

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like to me

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it's just teleportation

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to me.

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:38 AM

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Tracer's abilities are purely fictional, but easy to explain

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she can't "time travel" exactly

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:39 AM

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blink isn't the mind fuck, recall is

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:39 AM

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but she can control the timeline of her body to a degree

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speed it up, slow it down, reverse it

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:40 AM

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austin from shoddycast made a video about it

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:40 AM

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the time around flows normally, she can't jump to a different point in time

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but she can, for example, reverse her body to a previous state

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it only affects her, and once she reverses it, the time around her will still be the same

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like, if Tracer recalled after Mondatta's death

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Mondatta would still be dead

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she'd just go back to an earlier spot on the roof

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:43 AM

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i wonder how it works without the

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accelerator

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anchoring her

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:43 AM

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it happens randomly

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:43 AM

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and it probably goes a lot farther back

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:43 AM

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she gets desynchronized, she starts flickering

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and then, gone

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:43 AM

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i wonder, can she control how far back she goes?

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:43 AM

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the tracer paradox

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:44 AM

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and if someone were to place a wall in place of where she was

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would she fuse with it?

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🤔

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:44 AM

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she can control gow far back she goes

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to an extent

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she "ran out of juice" in Reflections

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:45 AM

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i wish i had juice

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:45 AM

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so she definitely can't go too far back

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:45 AM

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best case scenario is that tracer ends up with cancer every time she uses recall, but what's more likely to happen is that her leg ends up where her head should be

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:46 AM

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I don't think she can go back further than a couple of minutes, honestly

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and usually, she only recalls a couple of seconds

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so, recalling even as far 1-2 minutes could start overexerting the device

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:48 AM

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i wonder what would happen if she

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was given something to hold

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like she walked up

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was given a metal orb or something

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and then recall

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would the orb fall to the floor?

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go with her?

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return to the hands of the giver?

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ngl now that i put this down the first seems most likely

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:49 AM

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you should be asking a physicist

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we're hard core gamers

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this is outside of our specialty

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:49 AM

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a narcissist*

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i should be asking a narcissist.

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:50 AM

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people are also curious about Tracer jumping upwards

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but imho, it's not that hard to explain

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:51 AM

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tracer does it in their fight against widow and reaper

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 2:51 AM

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she jumps, and starts speeding herself up

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resulting in the acceleration of her movement

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and thus, higher jumps

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:52 AM

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wait i'm

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not aware

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what's up with her jumping upwards?

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:53 AM

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her ability to blink upwards

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it's weird

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 2:53 AM

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hm

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i mean maybe she just

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"aims it upwards"

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it's hard to imagine how people with extra abilities

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use them sometimes

lean prawn Dec 2, 2018, 2:56 AM

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apparently it's more of a space thing than a time thing

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so her being able to aim it anywhere she chooses is pretty reasonable

safe void Dec 2, 2018, 4:36 AM

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She only reverses time for herself-not the object. It’s sort of like a quantum leap or quasi-photon reaction per se. The object would drop to the floor. Plus her reference frame would be relative to herself.

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In theory

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 5:10 AM

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fair enough but i wonder why her clothes seem to go with her

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unless they're tailor made to suit her

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which would make sense

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explains why she never seems to change out of that get-up

regal coyote Dec 2, 2018, 7:50 AM

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simple

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cause the game rating would be different if we have some naked bitch in the game

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also the device winston puts on her allows for botht he device and soem stuff around trace to go with her blinking rampage

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so technically she dont have to hold something, as long as the object is within her reach(touch?) she can bring with her

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 7:52 AM

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ew

regal coyote Dec 2, 2018, 7:52 AM

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well, within a reasonable size (mass even?) that is

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so technically she can blink with a human in lore

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blink is not the problem

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the bigger problem is recall

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like, can she buy a big and thick foot long hot dog, eat it

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then recall so she has the hot dog, and eat it again, and again and again

dawn knot Dec 2, 2018, 7:55 AM

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ew

regal coyote Dec 2, 2018, 7:58 AM

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not bad really

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you can enjoy your food continuously

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so a small box of chickenwing would be same as like a 50 piece special

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 12:33 PM

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@worthy rose this is a lore channel

river light Dec 2, 2018, 12:51 PM

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indeed

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 1:13 PM

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well, your message is not lore-related

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and shitposting will result in loss of access

terse oak Dec 2, 2018, 1:40 PM

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Moving on

worthy rose Dec 2, 2018, 1:43 PM

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a

lone latch Dec 2, 2018, 2:24 PM

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Is there any lore behind moiras tech?

dire timber Dec 2, 2018, 3:01 PM

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yeah

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it's based on Mercy's bionic regeneration tech

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but Moira repurposed to cause cellular degradation as well

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which is, well, not what Mercy had in mind

sterile dagger Dec 2, 2018, 3:10 PM

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ThinkingSombra main

cursive zodiac Dec 2, 2018, 8:06 PM

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owo

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 8:10 PM

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@cursive zodiac Yes?

cursive zodiac Dec 2, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Norhing

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Nothing

limpid agate Dec 2, 2018, 8:16 PM

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@cursive zodiac Serious discussion strictly related to lore

wild sigil Dec 2, 2018, 8:59 PM

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y'all hear me out; Hanzo should be the one rocking the Demon skin. Hanzo is based off of the famed samurai "Hattori Hanzo" of the Sengoku period. Hattori's nickname was Oni no Hanzo, translating to Demon Hanzo. Thus he should be the one using the demon skin, and not Genji, I rest my case.

valid shell Dec 2, 2018, 9:06 PM

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@wild sigil Hanzo has a demon skin.

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What are you on about.

peak escarp Dec 2, 2018, 9:17 PM

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📎 600px-HalloweenTerror_Hanzo_Skin_Demon.png

wild sigil Dec 2, 2018, 9:20 PM

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lol oof

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my mistake

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but is it named Oni

peak escarp Dec 2, 2018, 9:22 PM

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yes

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well

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it's called Demon

wild sigil Dec 2, 2018, 9:23 PM

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they should switch them names then

peak escarp Dec 2, 2018, 9:23 PM

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but he has an oni in his tattoo

wild sigil Dec 2, 2018, 9:24 PM

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you mean it says Oni on one his tattoos?

peak escarp Dec 2, 2018, 9:24 PM

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no, it's an image of an oni

wild sigil Dec 2, 2018, 9:25 PM

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of course, the skin's named demon

peak escarp Dec 2, 2018, 9:25 PM

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📎 tumblr_pfo8iyDF8X1vpen1do1_r1_400.png

wild sigil Dec 2, 2018, 9:26 PM

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damn, I now consider such a tattoo, they hella nice

soft parrot Dec 3, 2018, 2:17 AM

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So, regarding tracer's jumping

valid shell Dec 3, 2018, 2:17 AM

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Mnyes.

soft parrot Dec 3, 2018, 2:17 AM

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Tracer just moves faster when she "jumps"

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It's not a teleportation, more so a control of her own time

valid shell Dec 3, 2018, 2:18 AM

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It's supposed to be her jumping a couple second increments forward in her own timestream, yes.

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But it isn't like that in practice.

soft parrot Dec 3, 2018, 2:18 AM

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what do you mean, it isn't like in practice?

valid shell Dec 3, 2018, 2:26 AM

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In-game she can blink horizontally through the open air much further than she could leap in her own timeline.

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And in cutscenes she can blink straight up vertically.

lean prawn Dec 3, 2018, 2:28 AM

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personally, I think blink is an application of the space portion of tracer's spacetime abilities, limited to teleporting horizontally in game for balancing purposes

weary turtle Dec 3, 2018, 5:51 AM

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She retains the state in wich her body was accelerated?

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Time is weird man xD

dense estuary Dec 3, 2018, 8:18 AM

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I am curious if Slipstream ever got restarted and the reason for failure found

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combine that with what is probably supersonic VTOLs and that would be a pretty mean fighter jet.

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id imagine the OW verse has supersonic VTOL. with the wide available anti-grav technology they certainly would not need ducted systems like the Harrier.

dawn knot Dec 3, 2018, 8:20 AM

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or they could attempt to reproduce what happened to tracer

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and mass produce time soldiers

peak escarp Dec 3, 2018, 8:21 AM

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reproducing what happened to Tracer would be a terrible idea

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you'd just end up with people lost in time or dead

dawn knot Dec 3, 2018, 8:21 AM

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thething is, we'd be able to offer accelerators right away

dense estuary Dec 3, 2018, 8:21 AM

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that was a mishap and never the intention of the project

dawn knot Dec 3, 2018, 8:21 AM

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as they're already able to be made

peak escarp Dec 3, 2018, 8:21 AM

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there's no guarantee they'd be able to find them long enough to get a chronal accelerator on them

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I don't think the exact circumstances can be replicated

dawn knot Dec 3, 2018, 8:22 AM

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still worth a try imo, considering the benefits

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though some could go rogue

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volunteers are risky

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and they're all you'll get

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unless the baddies find out how the project went wrong

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and force people into things

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which could be scary

dense estuary Dec 3, 2018, 8:22 AM

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Slipstream was never meant to leave someone out of sync though, It was to make a fighter that could do a sort of jump

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like how he F-302 in Stargate could do baby hyperspace jumps

dawn knot Dec 3, 2018, 8:23 AM

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i understand

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but it's like

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how they found penicillin

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or made silly putty

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mistakes that end up being more valuable

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and then end up being reproduced

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instead

peak escarp Dec 3, 2018, 8:25 AM

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I don't see how forcing someone to live a possibly painful existence out of sync with time and only tethered by a device they can't be more than 10 feet from is a good thing

dawn knot Dec 3, 2018, 8:25 AM

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like i said

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baddies may choose to

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get on that

peak escarp Dec 3, 2018, 8:26 AM

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the costs outweigh the benefits

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big time

dense estuary Dec 3, 2018, 8:26 AM

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Side note is I think what limited lore we have on SS is at least partially inspired by the Philadelphia Experiment.

dawn knot Dec 3, 2018, 8:26 AM

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fair enough then

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tracer seems happy enough tho

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maybe it's just her personality

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oh yeah for sure, that stuff's kinda scary

peak escarp Dec 3, 2018, 8:26 AM

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she has an optimistic personality, and she was determined to make the best of a bad situation

dawn knot Dec 3, 2018, 8:26 AM

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way worse end results lol

peak escarp Dec 3, 2018, 8:26 AM

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she was a best-case scenario

dense estuary Dec 3, 2018, 8:27 AM

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My question was more I wonder if that kink ever got worked out so that it was a viable technology or if it was shelved after the Tracer incident

dawn knot Dec 3, 2018, 8:27 AM

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i would imagine it would be

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put away ngl

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who would want to touch anything like that after such an accident

peak escarp Dec 3, 2018, 8:28 AM

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it was probably abandoned

dense estuary Dec 3, 2018, 8:29 AM

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Without a war yea I’d agree that they shut it down

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Why take the people and money risks on a plane without a fight that is that experimental

sage panther Dec 3, 2018, 10:23 AM

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Hello

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Anybody here

iron plume Dec 3, 2018, 10:26 AM

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yes
do you have a question?

regal coyote Dec 3, 2018, 11:55 AM

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well, if talon get the tech on that they can slipstream a buncha grunts with a controlled version fo the experiment in one go.

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then pick out the survivors and make a squad of tracer on steriods, and weapons better than that pea shooter tracer has

dire timber Dec 3, 2018, 11:57 AM

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that's basically what assassins are

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I mean, there's no canon info to that effect, but

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I think it's likely that assassins were enhanced with stolen Slipstream tech

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with some painful, disturbing, but effective results

regal coyote Dec 3, 2018, 12:00 PM

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more like a type of genji dash though

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a genji dash on an andriod is much easier to make

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cheaper

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higher success rate

dire timber Dec 3, 2018, 12:01 PM

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not really, it doesn't sound like a dash

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it sounds like a blink

regal coyote Dec 3, 2018, 12:01 PM

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but yeah, a blink unit with shotguns is like what the original class of fighters is made for in Project Titans

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tracer and reaper is the same class of fighters

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@dire timber on the good side, there is a footage of the assassain being poayable in that korean hack/glitch incident

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it does not feel like a blink, more like accelerated run

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yes it is the glitch videos where people can even play as a detonator

dire timber Dec 3, 2018, 12:16 PM

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you're confusing two different abilities

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assassins are blinking while clinging to walls

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swiftly blinking from one wall to another

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accelerated run only happens once they drop down

regal coyote Dec 3, 2018, 12:47 PM

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havent seen them use that in the gameplay yeah

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the wall blink seems scripted

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maybe if we get to see more of assassain we would know

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i always though it was genji cause the whole "sticking to a wall and assassainate" thing is a prototype genji/hanzo ability at one point

worthy rose Dec 3, 2018, 1:39 PM

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My favorite Lore is the Blackwatch Lore.

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Anyone wanna talk about that?

dire timber Dec 3, 2018, 1:49 PM

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sure, we could

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what do you want to talk about specifically?

valid shell Dec 3, 2018, 3:19 PM

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And they never returned.

crimson bloom Dec 3, 2018, 3:21 PM

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guess there wasn't much to say about the topic lol

crisp crater Dec 3, 2018, 3:55 PM

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is there any more lore about bastion, or reyes for that matter?

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or 76?

peak escarp Dec 3, 2018, 3:56 PM

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nothing new, if that's what you mean

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there's some old articles about 76 that you might not have seen

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https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/19809396

Overwatch

Overwatch is Blizzard’s team shooter for PC and consoles. Choose a hero from a diverse roster of soldiers, scientists, adventurers, and oddities, each with their own unique set of abilities. Bend time, defy physics, and unleash an array of extraordinary powers in concert wi...

dire timber Dec 3, 2018, 4:19 PM

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@crisp crater I presume you've seen the Bastion short, and read the relevant Torb comic?

crisp crater Dec 3, 2018, 4:20 PM

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yes

dire timber Dec 3, 2018, 4:40 PM

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so, not much happened since then

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what we do know is that Bastion is fully under Torb's care

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with Torb making a new armor for him, etc

regal coyote Dec 3, 2018, 6:17 PM

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what will we get for winter event?

weary turtle Dec 3, 2018, 6:42 PM

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Lorevice propably only a comic but i wonder what kind of winter themed lore they could include in an event

dire timber Dec 3, 2018, 6:44 PM

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we know there'll be a "Figure Skater" skin

weary turtle Dec 3, 2018, 6:44 PM

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Could anything speculated/hinted have happened in winter?

dire timber Dec 3, 2018, 6:44 PM

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from that skin leak a while back

weary turtle Dec 3, 2018, 6:47 PM

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What if we could play the sombra introduction and get some talon lore :O (it was snowing in that right?)

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Although that was a stealth mission but alteast the aftermath or something

dire timber Dec 3, 2018, 6:58 PM

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what

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snowing in what?

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what are you talking about?

regal coyote Dec 3, 2018, 7:16 PM

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i think he wants a sneak-sneak mission in russia

worthy rose Dec 3, 2018, 7:29 PM

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Did they stop making comics for the game?

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I remember last year they were pumping out a lot of comics

peak escarp Dec 3, 2018, 7:30 PM

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the last one we got was for Retribution back in April

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but we have confirmation that there are more comics planned

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Jeff said there were reasons why the comics stopped but they will be back

dire timber Dec 3, 2018, 8:07 PM

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@weary turtle Archives is the lore event

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and everything seems to indicate that the next Archives event will be a Talon event

grim salmon Dec 3, 2018, 9:41 PM

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I hope so.

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Widowmaker, Sombra, Doomfist, and...?

dire timber Dec 3, 2018, 9:42 PM

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Moira

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she'll need a Talon skin, though

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presumably closer in appearance to her Origins outfit

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with the horns and all

limpid agate Dec 3, 2018, 9:42 PM

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OR

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Hero 30

dire timber Dec 3, 2018, 9:43 PM

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I doubt we're getting another Talon healer

limpid agate Dec 3, 2018, 9:43 PM

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They might do something creative with SOmbra's hack and make her the healer

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Inspired by the year she wasn't a DPS.

dire timber Dec 3, 2018, 9:43 PM

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seems... doubtful

limpid agate Dec 3, 2018, 9:43 PM

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Agreed

valid shell Dec 3, 2018, 10:25 PM

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Introduce an element where the enemy has healing bots/stations and Sombra can hack then into the player's side.

dire timber Dec 3, 2018, 10:47 PM

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do we have any hints at who hero 30 may be?

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the timing doesn't seem right for a Talon hero

limpid agate Dec 3, 2018, 10:48 PM

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Nope.

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All we have is Reunion

dire timber Dec 3, 2018, 10:54 PM

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so, we only know that hero 30 is already set in stone

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and that it's not Echo

limpid agate Dec 3, 2018, 10:55 PM

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More than set in stone

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Hero 30 is already a permanent piece in their in house builds

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Hero 31 is probably set in stone too

peak escarp Dec 3, 2018, 10:57 PM

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it must be hard for the devs to avoid mentioning the unreleased heroes if they're that far along

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:30 AM

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so far, which heroes have "inherent superhuman abilities?" not counting something like soldier enhancement program, but like tracer's time abilities

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tracer with time, reaper and moira with wraith form-y abilities

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anything else?

limpid agate Dec 4, 2018, 12:31 AM

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Depends on your definition of inherit

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:31 AM

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i guess anything not relying on outside technology

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is the inherent part

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not as in origin of the ability, but the hero can currently use it without another device

limpid agate Dec 4, 2018, 12:32 AM

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Doomfist, Genji, possibly Hanzo, Reaper, Sombra, Tracer, Moira.

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:33 AM

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i get hanzo and genji since their dragons

peak escarp Dec 4, 2018, 12:33 AM

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don't they all rely on outside technology?

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:33 AM

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are you including doomfist's strength as his ability?

peak escarp Dec 4, 2018, 12:33 AM

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Tracer's abilities come from her chronal accelerator

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:33 AM

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her abilities are from her accident though

peak escarp Dec 4, 2018, 12:33 AM

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Reaper and Moira would be inherent

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:34 AM

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like, she controls it with the accelerator

peak escarp Dec 4, 2018, 12:34 AM

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she can't control them without the accelerator

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so they might as well not exist

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:34 AM

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ehhh i'm not necessarily talking about whether they can use it at will

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suppose a superhero just gained their abilities and have no way of controlling it but they're unleashing it

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they still have abilities

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isn't sombra's translocator exclusively the tech itself and not necessarily sombra herself?

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same with the cloaking

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like suppose sombra was completely stripped of her tech

limpid agate Dec 4, 2018, 12:36 AM

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Sombra's tech is built into her body

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Same as Genji and Doomfist

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Go watch his anime

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You cant strip him any more

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And he is still beyond peak human strength

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:37 AM

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i feel like that's still kind of "device" part

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just inside the body of the person

limpid agate Dec 4, 2018, 12:37 AM

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Then so is Tracer

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And everyone other than Reaper

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And possibly Hanzo/Moira, who are still mysterious

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:37 AM

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is tracer's unstable time thing due to an implanted device?

limpid agate Dec 4, 2018, 12:37 AM

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She cant control it

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She'll just blink out of existence

frosty shell Dec 4, 2018, 12:37 AM

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D. Va has great gaming abilities

limpid agate Dec 4, 2018, 12:38 AM

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That's no longer an ability

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:38 AM

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yeah, but like i said, she's not controlling it but it's still a form of what would be considered a "supernatural" thing

limpid agate Dec 4, 2018, 12:38 AM

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Its not an ability anymore

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Its a disability

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:39 AM

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i think that's more of a matter of how we define ability

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i was referring to "special ability" not necessarily as something you can utilize at will to accomplish something

limpid agate Dec 4, 2018, 12:40 AM

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You are making a pointlessly specific niche for your question

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:40 AM

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but more of a "supernatural" quirk

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not really?

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this was the crux of my question itself, except the term ability wasn't specified so there were misunderstanding

limpid agate Dec 4, 2018, 12:41 AM

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inherent - Meaning it is in no way related to any form of technology, internal, external, or physically and permanently part of their body.
superhuman - Fantastically beyond what is human limit, rather than still beyond peak human like Soldier 76 (Captain America is way super human)
ability - Not ability, just anything at all.

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:42 AM

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we can call it a different word, but what i'm referring to as an ability is just something that your body would do at its current state without the help of outside device

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and in my definition of an outside device, i'm counting in implants

limpid agate Dec 4, 2018, 12:42 AM

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There is no outside device for Doomfist, Genji, or Sombra though

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It is their body

dire timber Dec 4, 2018, 12:43 AM

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altered physiology – Tracer, Widowmaker, Soldier, Reyes/Reaper
cybernetic prosthetic/enhancement – Genji, Doomfist, Torbjorn, McCree, Symmetra, Sombra, Ana (formerly)

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:44 AM

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i guess mccree also falls under cybernetic?

dire timber Dec 4, 2018, 12:44 AM

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yeah

heady fern Dec 4, 2018, 12:45 AM

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I’ve heard it theorized that the dragons from. Genii and Hanzo are like cybernetic tattoos

dire timber Dec 4, 2018, 12:45 AM

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yep, that's pretty likely

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well, for Genji, not anymore

heady fern Dec 4, 2018, 12:46 AM

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He might have it under his metal flesh

dire timber Dec 4, 2018, 12:46 AM

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nope

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where Hanzo relies on his tattoos, Genji relies on his sword

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:46 AM

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isn't genji pretty much machine where he's not visibly human on the blackwatch skin

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except maybe the face

dire timber Dec 4, 2018, 12:47 AM

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his torso is intact

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and his left arm

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probably needed some internal organs replaced as well

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:47 AM

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i thought he was pretty much cut where the machine/flesh border is, hence the scar

dire timber Dec 4, 2018, 12:47 AM

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nope

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:47 AM

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although you could just as easily say that's just from the surgery

dire timber Dec 4, 2018, 12:47 AM

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he wasn't bisected

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just a regular wound

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:48 AM

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oh okay

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i thought he was literally cut it half lol

heady fern Dec 4, 2018, 12:48 AM

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Always wondered how severe his injuries are

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And did Hanzo use a sword?

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:48 AM

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yeah

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yeah

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i think he was supposed to be a better swordsman than genji at the time of their fight?

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idk where i read that but i feel like i read that somewhere

dire timber Dec 4, 2018, 12:49 AM

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yep, he was

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:50 AM

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i wonder if hanzo can use his dragons with his sword

dire timber Dec 4, 2018, 12:50 AM

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the he gave up on using the sword

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:50 AM

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like genji does

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btw do you remember where that lore tidbit is officially from?

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hanzo being the better swordsman

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 12:53 AM

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Captain America's depiction is all over the place.

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:53 AM

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i just read somewhere he's peak human, but i'm not that big on marvel or dc stuff so idk

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 12:53 AM

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He's supposed to be mildly/mediumly faster and stronger than the fastest and strongest human respectively, but he displays performance massively in excess for that.

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:54 AM

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but then again, i think the punisher is also "peak" and i'm pretty sure captain america is far beyond the punisher's abilities

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 12:54 AM

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I think his benchpress and running were like 30 or 40% higher than the world records in those categories.

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This is for the MCU

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Comics as always are all over the place

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one iteration he's just supposed to be at human capacity but not beyond it

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I have no idea how 'enhanced' Soldier and Reaper are, though.

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They make no obvious displays of extreme capacity.

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 12:55 AM

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one of them survived a building falling on them

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:55 AM

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i think they're pretty flexible just like captain america is lol

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soldier got shot point blank in the back with reaper's shotgun

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and his response was literally

peak escarp Dec 4, 2018, 12:55 AM

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Military scientists shaped Morrison and other inductees into the perfect soldiers, blessed with superhuman speed, strength, and agility.

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:55 AM

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"omg it hurts"

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 12:55 AM

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Cap gets to perform way over what he should be able to, presumably because he's the goodest good guy and MUH AMERICA

peak escarp Dec 4, 2018, 12:56 AM

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it's supposed to be a superhuman level

frosty shell Dec 4, 2018, 12:56 AM

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Soldier: 76 did survive the HQ explosion

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 12:56 AM

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Reyes displays none of that, Soldier only vaguely displays that in his sprint ability

heady fern Dec 4, 2018, 12:56 AM

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Soldiers super serum allows him to run kinda fast I guess but if some mexican lady talks about propaganda he forgets

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 12:56 AM

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but if we don't assume that all the other characters are sprinting constantly and are in fact jogging

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then... yeah

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 12:56 AM

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sombra says apoganda las luces

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that means turning out the lights

peak escarp Dec 4, 2018, 12:57 AM

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Sombra can't canonically hack Soldier into forgetting how to run

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 12:57 AM

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no propaganda talk here

heady fern Dec 4, 2018, 12:57 AM

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I’m aware of that

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Was joking

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 12:57 AM

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yeah, the hack is kinda hilarious though

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because of lore/gameplay disconnect

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:57 AM

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mccree forgets how to roll

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 12:57 AM

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she can hack Roadhog into forgetting how to throw a metal chain

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McCree at least has cybernetics that could go haywire

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:57 AM

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the shimada bros forget how to climb

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 12:57 AM

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Hog is all mechanical

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:57 AM

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genji i kinda understand

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hanzo though

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 12:58 AM

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mccree doesnt need his arm to roll

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:58 AM

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i guess if you really stretched, she's accessing mccree's nervous system through the cybernetics

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 12:58 AM

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japanese people forget how to jump when you turn out the lights

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:58 AM

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although idk how he walks and shoots lol

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 12:58 AM

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The biggest flaw is always Hog

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he forgets how to throw

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 12:59 AM

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forgets how to use his inhaler

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 12:59 AM

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he has absolutely nothing she could tamper with

lucid vessel Dec 4, 2018, 12:59 AM

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Soldier gets hacked and he can't run

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 12:59 AM

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hog forgets how to throw

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 1:00 AM

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Zenyatta loses access to his weird spiritual energy

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:00 AM

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brigitte forgets that her flail can go super extendo

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even though it still goes super extendo???

peak escarp Dec 4, 2018, 1:00 AM

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realistically Zenyatta would be disabled completely by Sombra's hack

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 1:00 AM

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just not as far

peak escarp Dec 4, 2018, 1:00 AM

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like Lynx was

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 1:00 AM

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like bob does

peak escarp Dec 4, 2018, 1:00 AM

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yeah

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:00 AM

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bob and lynx are sheep

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zenyatta is woke

heady fern Dec 4, 2018, 1:01 AM

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Reinhardt can’t smack the ground

peak escarp Dec 4, 2018, 1:01 AM

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but that would feel bad for the player so I understand the reason it isn't like that

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:01 AM

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to be fair reinhardt has to super charge the rockets on the back of his hammer to do so

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 1:01 AM

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but but

heady fern Dec 4, 2018, 1:01 AM

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He still fires them when swinging

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 1:01 AM

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he swings

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:01 AM

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oh thats why the earth shatter animation is so fast

heady fern Dec 4, 2018, 1:01 AM

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It just disabled his suit but not his hammer

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He can’t charge but he can bash peoples head in

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 1:02 AM

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but why does earthshatter need his suit rocket

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:02 AM

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what i like is how the moira animations imply that her give and take powers come from more than just her suit

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 1:03 AM

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i feel like her damaging part is actually an implant but isn't the heal just her suit

heady fern Dec 4, 2018, 1:04 AM

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Also hack forces Hammond out of ball form when it should just leave him stuck whatever form he was last in

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:05 AM

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i feel like moira revitalizing herself with her succy succy powers implies that moira made herself immortal by giving herself the ability to feed on the life forces of others, and she diverts some of that life force into her suit and condenses it into the iconic pee she sprays

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and the coal animation is her forcefully pumping out and sucking in the life force at the same time and the scale and duality of the ability puts a massive strain on her body

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 1:05 AM

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isn't her healing nano technology that mercy made?

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:06 AM

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does it say that anywhere?

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 1:06 AM

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just like all canonical healing tech

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idk bruh

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:06 AM

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do we have any lorelords with sources?

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 1:07 AM

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i was just under the impression that anything that heals in canon (non-canon healing being lucio, zen, etc)

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 1:07 AM

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I still hate Brig

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 1:07 AM

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is mercy's tech

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 1:07 AM

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and her passive

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from the lore/gameplay thing I feel like it's the single worst ability

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:07 AM

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the nature of their healing is fundementally different though

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brigitte heals people with the power of friendship and inspiration

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dont think too hard about it

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 1:07 AM

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herpaderp she inspires people by flailing with her emaciated noodle

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 1:07 AM

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just like how lucio calms people and make them feel gud

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same with zen

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 1:08 AM

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Meanwhile the majestic Genji quintuple kill gets SQUAT

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:08 AM

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they went the friendship is magic route and weaponized friendship

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 1:08 AM

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lmao weaponized friendship

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 1:08 AM

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It does make Zen's Discord kinda hilarious though

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He makes bullets do more damage by hurting your feelings

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:08 AM

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zen's discord orb is just bad juujuu

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 1:08 AM

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compounding the physical and emotional wounds

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what we don't hear in-game is him constantly trashtalking the target to get its effect off

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it made the rating too high

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:09 AM

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zen: soldier your kicks suck ass
soldier: :(
soldier takes more damage

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 1:09 AM

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zen: genji you learned nothing

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:10 AM

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an april fools patch should just switch the zenyatta discord orb sound files with insults

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"reinhardt your head is tiny"
"nice lordosis, barney"

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"nobody likes you brigitte"

heady fern Dec 4, 2018, 1:10 AM

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That’d be perfect

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 1:10 AM

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who's barney?

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:10 AM

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barney is purple

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 1:10 AM

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Since we have the 'mental state/emotions' = 'HP' correlation already, it can do other funny things like make it so Reaper 'dying' (as an immortal being that can't do that) is just him having his feelings hurt so much by being shot at that he needs to call timeout for a few seconds

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and his vampirism is just him being like 'take that, bitches, how does it feel for YOU?'

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:11 AM

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hp = mental state

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 1:11 AM

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lol

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HP = healthy psyche

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michael chu hire me

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:11 AM

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i can just imagine that each overwatch match is just a dramatization of arguments that happen all the time

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tracer is very sensitive, dont hurt her

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and sombra's emp hurts zenyatta so much because she recks him with facts and logic

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i just thought the hp of heroes was losely based on the physique of heroes and their weight

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this would make ashe a very heavy girl

runic scroll Dec 4, 2018, 1:14 AM

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anyway, i feel like the only hero whose body does supernatural things without external or implanted device is tracer?

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if we count out super soldiers

subtle moss Dec 4, 2018, 1:14 AM

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Not really. Ana is 200 same as McCree

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Reaper has no implants as far as I know.

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:14 AM

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but their hp being related to their mood is such a good idea

limpid agate Dec 4, 2018, 1:14 AM

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HP is not lore

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Mei is 250, Pharah is 200

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There is no reason why other than gameplay

lean prawn Dec 4, 2018, 1:15 AM

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body fat vs space-age jetpack armour