#lore-discussion | Overwatch | Page 331

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 3:48 PM

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I guess we would have to wait

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are voicelines added gradually for all new heroes?

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 3:51 PM

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they add new ones every few patches

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there's also a couple new ones for Ana

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with Hanzo, Doomfist and Widowmaker

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 3:58 PM

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I wonder how they decide adding lines though

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have they removed any?

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 4:02 PM

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Maybe

cunning ledge Sep 13, 2018, 4:03 PM

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apart from the seasonal ones like new years I can't think of any significant removals

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did they remove the torbjorn hating bastion lines?

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 4:03 PM

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I haven't looked at the files

cunning ledge Sep 13, 2018, 4:03 PM

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I feel like they might have

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 4:03 PM

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But I haven't heard that one in a while, so maybe

frosty shell Sep 13, 2018, 4:05 PM

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They have removed a few lines but I don't know about any removed interactions

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 4:06 PM

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What about the one between Rein and Mercy about Brigitte?

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it does seem weird that Mercy scolds Rein for taking Brigitte along his advantures but does not scold brigitte for following lol

frosty shell Sep 13, 2018, 4:07 PM

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I wonder if Rein's "A knight couldn't ask for more from his squire" line plays if Brigitte is there

cunning ledge Sep 13, 2018, 4:08 PM

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that's a line he says?

frosty shell Sep 13, 2018, 4:08 PM

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Yes

cunning ledge Sep 13, 2018, 4:08 PM

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I've never heard it

frosty shell Sep 13, 2018, 4:09 PM

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It was added for anniversary 2018 I think

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 4:09 PM

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They did correct the pronunciation of it

frosty shell Sep 13, 2018, 4:09 PM

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I don't think I have heard it in game

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 4:09 PM

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From Bri-jeet to Bri-gi-teh

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 4:10 PM

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https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Reinhardt/Quotes

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No it doesn't

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2018 anni isn't added

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 4:15 PM

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I'll look into it when I get home

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But Brig was always his squire. She didn't become playable out of nowhere

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 4:17 PM

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It made sense for her

cunning ledge Sep 13, 2018, 4:17 PM

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searching the phrase doesn't find anything overwatch related

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 4:17 PM

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It wouldn't make sense for Emily unless we get more info on her

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 4:20 PM

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She went from semi unimportant squire npc to Torbs daughter to short cameo that's with a Rein who joins Overwatch.

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She had lots of reason to join the fight

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Emily? Daehyun? Ingrid? None

native kayak Sep 13, 2018, 4:25 PM

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Overwatch has like three families within the roster right?

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Shimada bros, Lindholms, Amaris?

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 4:26 PM

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Yes.

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And to a non-literal extent, Hammond grew up around Winston and the other apes on the Horizon Lunar Colony (would consider each other friends)

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 4:27 PM

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What was Hammond doing when he was missing in HLC?

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 4:28 PM

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Watch his origin short

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 4:28 PM

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Learning engineering

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 4:28 PM

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Hammond: https://bit.ly/2lKVlU9

YouTube

PlayOverwatch

[NEW HERO – NOW AVAILABLE] Wrecking Ball Origin Story | Overwatch

Meet the resourceful tinkerer that fights with an iron-clad mech: Wrecking Ball. Learn more about Wrecking Ball: https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/2190163...

▶ Play video

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Also read his bio

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 4:28 PM

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He's take stuff apart, put it back together

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Probably

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 4:29 PM

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https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/wrecking-ball/

Overwatch

Wrecking Ball - Overwatch

This rolling tank is piloted by a genetically-engineered hamster from the moon.

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Pretty much

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Ok the bio actually tells more

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secretly hitched

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Why wouldn't he tell Winston lol

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"Hey I'm coming with you!" Instead off "I'm gonna secretly attach my pod to your"
And winston must he really dumb not to check his pod

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 4:43 PM

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Well, he cant talk

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For starters

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 4:44 PM

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I assume if he is friends with winston they wiuld have communicated

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Maybe a little nudge

dire timber Sep 13, 2018, 4:45 PM

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Idk

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I think it's in-character for Hammond to just attach his pod to Winston's without asking

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the first we hear of him is that he's a bit of a troublemaker, who doesn't really ask people for permission for anything

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he just does what he wants and goes where he wants

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maybe acts a little sheepish when he gets caught

dense cedar Sep 13, 2018, 4:54 PM

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What do u think the purple cube is gonna do?

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 4:54 PM

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disappear into obscurity

dense cedar Sep 13, 2018, 4:55 PM

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@peak escarp good theorum

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 5:01 PM

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Then winston and hammind might not be close, probably just knew that each other existed

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 5:01 PM

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@dusty dagger Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

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Final warning

dusty dagger Sep 13, 2018, 5:01 PM

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But i didnt start GWnekomakiNotLikeBOYE

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Sorry

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Is there a purple cube in OW?

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 5:03 PM

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Read train hopper

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https://www.madefire.com/motion-books/OVERWATCH-1-MCCREE/

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@dusty dagger

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Damn it

dusty dagger Sep 13, 2018, 5:05 PM

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Oh, i thought it was shitposting

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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Hey do we need to pay to read train hopper now?

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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Train Hopper: http://bit.ly/2ewHZI7

Madefire

Overwatch: McCree: Train Hopper

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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It's the older comics

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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Wrong link

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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Click your link

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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Wait what

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Oh it should be there

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Just slow to load

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Alternatively

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https://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us/mccree-train-hopper

Blizzard | Comic Book Experience

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 5:07 PM

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The new comics works though

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 5:07 PM

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Weird

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 5:09 PM

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You have to download their app to read the motion books now

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 5:09 PM

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Thats dumb

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Guess Ill update the links later

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 5:10 PM

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What are you gonna update them into lol

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 5:10 PM

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finished my timeline

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 5:10 PM

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comics.playoverwatch

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 5:14 PM

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Anyone notice Hammond's fur was grey in his origin? 00:32

cunning ledge Sep 13, 2018, 5:16 PM

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not grey, but it is a bit darker

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earlier in the video you can see that it's just a dark brown when there's actually light on it

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 5:17 PM

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I don't know but It looked grey to me. Probably not a big issue

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@dusty dagger what do you think the cube is then?

cunning ledge Sep 13, 2018, 5:18 PM

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I don't think they were trying to have a serious discussion

dusty dagger Sep 13, 2018, 5:19 PM

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@hasty surge some kind of energy source?

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 5:20 PM

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Get them to seriously start thinking about overwatch lore, the less they will shit post

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Erm let me re read the comic

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 5:21 PM

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In the comic its just some macguffin Talon wants.

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Its never explained or implied to be anything

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And we never see a similar structure ever, outside Sombra's computer.

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And that's completely different and unrelated

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 5:28 PM

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Hmm you are right the only other thing/similiar is sombra's purple

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For a high profile object it doesn't have any security lol

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And even placed with civilians

valid shell Sep 13, 2018, 5:54 PM

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BIG LORE.

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Sombra's stuffed bear is named Arturito.

cunning ledge Sep 13, 2018, 5:55 PM

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I heckin knew it was gonna be relevant later when I noticed the Overwatch logo on it

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 5:55 PM

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it's likely that those bears were given out as part of Overwatch's humanitarian aid in countries affected by the omnic crisis

cunning ledge Sep 13, 2018, 5:56 PM

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yeah

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I like that theory too

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 5:56 PM

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as an orphan of the crisis, Sombra would have received one

cunning ledge Sep 13, 2018, 5:56 PM

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I say "that theory", it's just about the only theory

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 5:56 PM

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the same bear is also found in the subway on King's Row on the Uprising version of the map

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and in Zarya's Mystery Gift emote, although I think that one is just a case of reusing resources

dire timber Sep 13, 2018, 6:04 PM

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I mean, she could've received one as well

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 6:05 PM

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Russia didn't like Overwatch

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 6:06 PM

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Mercy probably would have received one

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Assuming the theory holds, which makes sense

dire timber Sep 13, 2018, 6:07 PM

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@peak escarp I mean, maybe they accepted humanitarian aid?

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they wouldn't trust Overwatch with military matters, but helping some orphans wouldn't be so controversial

valid shell Sep 13, 2018, 6:07 PM

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More ridiculous theories have come from reusing assets. I mean, look at the entirety of DS1 lore.

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Does Blizzard World have teddies?

peak escarp Sep 13, 2018, 6:08 PM

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maybe

valid shell Sep 13, 2018, 6:08 PM

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K

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 6:08 PM

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Not sure, I never really cared to explore the map for lore

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I just looked at the big easter eggs like Snaxxramas

valid shell Sep 13, 2018, 6:09 PM

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Because if BlizzWorld has teddies, and they're still branded with Overwatch logos, that would be weird.

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Since in-universe Blizzard had nothing to do with Overwatch.

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 6:09 PM

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📎 Blizzard_World2.png

valid shell Sep 13, 2018, 6:10 PM

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I seem to remember teddies in the Starcraft gift shop.

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 6:10 PM

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What's DS1? Lol

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 6:10 PM

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In hindsight, theres surprisingly little Starcraft on the map

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Dark Souls 1.

cunning ledge Sep 13, 2018, 6:11 PM

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I don’t remember teddies there, it’s all new themed props like inflatable doomhammers and zergling action figures

limpid agate Sep 13, 2018, 6:11 PM

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They reused important assets from DS1 in DS3.

valid shell Sep 13, 2018, 6:11 PM

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Looking now, it's mostly backpacks.

cunning ledge Sep 13, 2018, 6:13 PM

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Would be kinda funny if there was one lying in an obscure corner of the map as if someone left it there accidentally

valid shell Sep 13, 2018, 6:13 PM

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There's not even one in the Lost and Found Vikings.

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I think I was wrong.

hasty surge Sep 13, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Ehh say if the teddies are part of the humanitarian efforts, they won't likely be in bilzzworld

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Nvm explained

regal coyote Sep 13, 2018, 6:26 PM

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technically it would be cool to have an ow teddy in the 'vikings

cinder juniper Sep 13, 2018, 9:35 PM

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Can anyone give a tip for genji?

frosty shell Sep 13, 2018, 9:39 PM

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This is lore discussion

paper sapphire Sep 13, 2018, 10:10 PM

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lul

mortal maple Sep 14, 2018, 12:39 AM

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@cinder juniper watch a lot of anime

limpid agate Sep 14, 2018, 12:41 AM

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@cinder juniper #overwatch

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@mortal maple Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

robust saffron Sep 14, 2018, 1:43 AM

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uhhh

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nah im good LOL

limpid agate Sep 14, 2018, 1:43 AM

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Moving swiftly onwards

robust saffron Sep 14, 2018, 1:43 AM

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oof b&

keen sigil Sep 14, 2018, 1:50 AM

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What about the liquified moon rock injections Tracer received in her butt?

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That is worthy of some discussion.

ebon laurel Sep 14, 2018, 1:51 AM

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What

keen sigil Sep 14, 2018, 1:51 AM

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Piffle.

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Research the lord for Blizzard’s Overwatch.

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The lore, rather.

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Lena Oxton’s lunar glutes.

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 1:56 AM

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what

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shitposting is not allowed

keen sigil Sep 14, 2018, 2:27 AM

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I do not partake in the malconduct known as excremental promulgation, Master Sixsmith.

valid shell Sep 14, 2018, 2:30 AM

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Stop.

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 2:30 AM

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then stick to serious discussion

limpid agate Sep 14, 2018, 2:31 AM

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@keen sigil Youve been warned. Dont waste any more time.

native kayak Sep 14, 2018, 3:46 AM

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y does sanjay look white

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If hes Indian

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 3:49 AM

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there are light skinned indians

valid shell Sep 14, 2018, 3:49 AM

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@native kayak https://www.thehindu.com/migration_catalog/article16666162.ece/alternates/FREE_960/21EP-SCI_PRASAD.tif

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May I introduce you to these 5 Indians, from India.

native kayak Sep 14, 2018, 3:50 AM

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Ok

cunning sand Sep 14, 2018, 4:27 AM

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That is random

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 4:33 AM

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not really

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someone asked why Sanjay looked white

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Binge provided a reference for Indians with varying skintones

hasty surge Sep 14, 2018, 8:44 AM

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I'm sorry just asking is muted, muted from lore?

iron plume Sep 14, 2018, 9:39 AM

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no, it’s a full one

hasty surge Sep 14, 2018, 9:41 AM

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Idk but I suggest a new role permanently muted from lore

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For shitposters like these

iron plume Sep 14, 2018, 9:41 AM

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there already is one

hasty surge Sep 14, 2018, 9:41 AM

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THAT'S GREAT

timid eagle Sep 14, 2018, 3:12 PM

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As far as the next animated short is concerned, what would you guys want to see?

worthy rose Sep 14, 2018, 3:18 PM

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MEKA content for this guy.

I want to see King and D. Mon fleshed out more.

lean prawn Sep 14, 2018, 3:20 PM

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lucio

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 3:22 PM

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I want to see Pharah and Ana reunite

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she already knows her mother is alive

hasty surge Sep 14, 2018, 3:23 PM

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Liao

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 3:23 PM

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let them meet face to face

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Liao would be nice too

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I'd also like to see Jesse (and the Deadlock Gang) getting busted by Overwatch and being given the option of life in jail or life in Overwatch

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or the fight at the Swiss HQ

valid shell Sep 14, 2018, 3:37 PM

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people want Liao and King and D.Mon cinematics more than playable heroes without any lore

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tf is up with you guys

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 3:39 PM

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I will be happy with anything honestly

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but I agree - let's develop the heroes we have rather than give screentime to people who aren't even playable

worthy rose Sep 14, 2018, 3:40 PM

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Fleshing them out produces the LORE you're questioning. Nothing is up with anyone.

timid eagle Sep 14, 2018, 3:45 PM

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Pharah has always came across as boring to me, but I would be down with a Zen animated short.

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McCree, we already know a lot about the guy.

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I mean, seeing a teen Jessie sassing Gabe would be fun to see.

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But he overall seems pretty fleshed out.

valid shell Sep 14, 2018, 3:47 PM

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@worthy rose Fleshes out lore for who? For D.Va? She just got a cinematic. She's fine.

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Let Lucio or Zenyatta or Mercy have a turn.

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Or Pharah, yeah ^

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@timid eagle McCree's in a much better place than most of the cast. He's fine.

timid eagle Sep 14, 2018, 3:48 PM

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@valid shell I agree.

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 3:48 PM

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maybe if Pharah got a short you wouldn't find her so boring anymore

timid eagle Sep 14, 2018, 3:49 PM

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The problem that I have with Pharah, is I don’t have a solid grasp on her personality.

worthy rose Sep 14, 2018, 3:50 PM

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@valid shell how do you equate them as meaning D.Va?

I was talking about others on MEKA

valid shell Sep 14, 2018, 3:51 PM

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...

timid eagle Sep 14, 2018, 3:51 PM

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Even Hammond, the fat ass hamster who doesn’t have a vocal box, is more defined than the military woman with the Egyptian theme.

valid shell Sep 14, 2018, 3:52 PM

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What playable hero would benefit from a King/D.Mon short, if not D.Va?

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King and D.Mon aren't playable. There's no need for a short about them, especially right after Shooting Star.

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It's inane.

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That's like a short about Mirembe and Kimiko.

timid eagle Sep 14, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Zenyatta, Lucio, & maybe Torbjorn?

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Pharah is dedicated, loyal to her group, puts the mission first but is learning that her squad is sometimes more important than the mission

worthy rose Sep 14, 2018, 3:53 PM

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The question was asked "What do you want to see?" and I replied. Just because you don't want to see it doesn't matter at all.

valid shell Sep 14, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Being logical does matter, though.

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 3:54 PM

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her voice lines show that she has dry humor, was close with many of the original Overwatch crew, and is protective of her friends

worthy rose Sep 14, 2018, 3:54 PM

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If being logical matters then you ought to realize the gaps in your own

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@peak escarp did you say something prior about ana and pharah?

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 3:54 PM

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yes

worthy rose Sep 14, 2018, 3:54 PM

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😃

valid shell Sep 14, 2018, 3:55 PM

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Now that's a short idea.

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 3:57 PM

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when the wanted posters and Helix logo appeared on Temple of Anubis, I thought it was hinting at an Ana/Pharah short where Pharah (and her Helix team) is called in to capture the Shrike, but when she corners her Ana reveals her identity and they get to have a touching moment. Pharah tells her about Overwatch coming back, and Ana (maybe with Soldier in the background, since they're together right now) tells her that her time is past, it's time for a new generation of heroes - and Ana finally gives Pharah her blessing to join Overwatch.

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at least, that's what I'd like to see

valid shell Sep 14, 2018, 3:57 PM

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"REEE BUT I WANNA SEE LIAO."

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 3:58 PM

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I would only want a Liao short if Liao is the Blizzcon hero announcement

timid eagle Sep 14, 2018, 3:58 PM

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Liao might not exist.

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 3:58 PM

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maybe

worthy rose Sep 14, 2018, 3:59 PM

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@peak escarp well thought out 😃

timid eagle Sep 14, 2018, 3:59 PM

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First Strike was canned, & we haven’t got much about Overwatch’s background.

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 3:59 PM

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Liao may have been retconned

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or Liao may still exist and they're just waiting for the right time to tell that story

timid eagle Sep 14, 2018, 4:00 PM

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I won’t lie. It’s going to be weird if Laio was announced as a new Tank/Support Hero.

cunning ledge Sep 14, 2018, 4:01 PM

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if Liao still exists, and then they still went and invented Emre with no plans, then that is pretty stupid

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 4:01 PM

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I like to think she'd be a healer, because the original strike team didn't have a healer

timid eagle Sep 14, 2018, 4:01 PM

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True.

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And, if they ever did do a mini-campaign that had the original Strike Team, Ana’s going to feel out of place.

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 4:02 PM

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also I want Liao to be a woman because I don't want Ana to be the only female member of the original team

timid eagle Sep 14, 2018, 4:03 PM

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That, and Lucio is the only male healer. About time we have less estrogen in the Support category.

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 4:03 PM

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more male healers would be nice too

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we have a good balance in the other categories

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but for support we only have Lucio and Zen

timid eagle Sep 14, 2018, 4:05 PM

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Anyway, back to Liao, it will make sense to go with a semi established character. Hammond was the left field weirdo, Brigitte was a fan favourite, Moira was the surprise, etc.

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It goes from established character, new character, fan request.

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 4:06 PM

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I don't think that pattern really holds up

worthy rose Sep 14, 2018, 4:06 PM

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yea that is a recognizable trend

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Ana (established character)
Sombra (established character)
Orisa (new character)
Doomfist (fan request)
Moira (new character)
Brigitte (established character/fan request)
Wrecking Ball (established character/fan request)

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an established character would be fine, but I'm not super excited about any of the ones we know

limpid agate Sep 14, 2018, 4:23 PM

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It's almost never the popular consensus either, but right now no one is asking about hero 29 unless they wanna know about Meka pilots.

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 4:25 PM

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I don't care a whole lot what new heroes they add, since it's not going to change what I play

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but I do care what new lore the added heroes will give us

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so I'd rather have someone we don't know a whole lot about

limpid agate Sep 14, 2018, 4:26 PM

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Almost because of Sombra, but there was a noteable voice asking for Liao because they hated the arg, and didn't think some hacker would become a hero

valid shell Sep 14, 2018, 4:28 PM

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I would like a blindside from a location/faction that we know nothing about for a completely new genre of hero.

limpid agate Sep 14, 2018, 4:28 PM

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Would be cool but I don't see that happening

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 4:28 PM

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Orisa was the closest to a blindside we've gotten

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or Moira, I suppose, since she didn't get any teasers and only appeared as a background character in a comic

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Orisa was a blindside because we were expecting Doomfist

regal coyote Sep 14, 2018, 4:36 PM

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i just want lore on liao. playable or not secondary

hasty surge Sep 14, 2018, 4:44 PM

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well he may even be retconned because he seems as though he doesn't exist in the current overwatch

worthy rose Sep 14, 2018, 4:47 PM

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I've always maintained that we get to 30 heroes before they either stop adding new ones or kill a hero off to add a bit of depth to the story

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 4:48 PM

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that's a random number

worthy rose Sep 14, 2018, 4:48 PM

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it actually fits the UI model tho 😉

hasty surge Sep 14, 2018, 4:51 PM

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so 15 dps and 15 tanks and support?

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 5:11 PM

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they can just change the UI model to fit more heroes though

worthy rose Sep 14, 2018, 5:15 PM

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They could just remove characters too, which would be easier even.

Scaling a UI is difficult especially concerning all platforms involved.

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 5:16 PM

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they said they won't remove heroes

nova elbow Sep 14, 2018, 5:17 PM

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lol I think they're more likely to adjust the UI than remove an entire hero

regal coyote Sep 14, 2018, 5:19 PM

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already said they would not kill off a hero in gameplay, in lor maybe but not gameplay

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mostly cause people pay for skins

native kayak Sep 14, 2018, 5:20 PM

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@peak escarp aww man that short sounds awesome, I wish they didn’t cancel the short for pharah they had planned

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 5:20 PM

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they didn't cancel the Pharah short

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they just made it into a comic instead

native kayak Sep 14, 2018, 5:22 PM

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Ohhh ok

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I wanna say it still feels like for an original hero pharah’s been kinda neglected but she does have a lot of voicelines and a comic nd stuff

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I just wish they didnt just make her “ana’s daughter”

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but im obvi biased

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 5:23 PM

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that's part of her character

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she has the struggle of trying to prove herself as an individual, not just her mother's daughter

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people complain that she has no personality, that she's just formal and humorless

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but that is her personality

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she has a straight-faced sense of humor, and she's dedicated to her job and her team

valid shell Sep 14, 2018, 5:29 PM

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@worthy rose A hefty majority of Overwatch's playerbase doesn't care about lore, and would riot if their main was removed for "story depth".

limpid agate Sep 14, 2018, 5:39 PM

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Leauge did that

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Removed Gangplank for a week

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Because of the lore

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They didn't care he was getting a rework, there was still riots

worthy rose Sep 14, 2018, 5:40 PM

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Riots at Riot Games

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😉

regal coyote Sep 14, 2018, 5:58 PM

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remove for a week or a few days yeah

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remove forever and you get to cough out the money you get from it or face really pissed off people.

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think about if, say, mercy got killed and all thsoe people who bought special skins...

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or shit like the expensive tracer/genji stuff

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Best way is to let characters die in lore if needed, and keep it playable.

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also in the long run they can even introduce already dead characters as playable.

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And better yet, they can introduce echo player characcters

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that would allow for more lore characters to be playable without going to mess up game balance

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 6:07 PM

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I don't think they should do that

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This is a shooter, not a fighting game

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I also don't see them introducing dead characters as playable heroes

valid shell Sep 14, 2018, 6:09 PM

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Best you'll get is skins, like a Savior/Scourge DF skin.

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Or a Mondatta Zen skin.

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 6:11 PM

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They already have a Balderich skin for Reinhardt

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But it's still Reinhardt

regal coyote Sep 14, 2018, 6:22 PM

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echo warrior is basically skin, except with different set of model and sound effects and such

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 6:23 PM

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Yes, I know what echo fighters are

regal coyote Sep 14, 2018, 6:23 PM

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so you can get D.Mon with same thing as rein without messing up gameplay

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 6:24 PM

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If they won't even give Blackwatch Reyes and Soldier: 24 the pre-Reaper Reyes voice that they already have, what makes you think they'll record a whole new voice and create new art assets for a character that's not even related to the base hero?

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DMon's kit isn't going to be the exact same as Reinhardt's

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That would make 0 sense

cunning ledge Sep 14, 2018, 6:25 PM

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hamster meant D.Mon as a D.Va skin

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 6:25 PM

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That makes even less sense

cunning ledge Sep 14, 2018, 6:25 PM

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"the same thing" meaning the same thing as the fact that reinhardt has a balderich skin

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 6:25 PM

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DMon looks like she's a shield tank

cunning ledge Sep 14, 2018, 6:26 PM

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but yeah that's just stupid and will never happen

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 6:26 PM

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If you want echo fighters go play Smash

timid eagle Sep 14, 2018, 6:28 PM

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Anyway....

I think I’ll be happy with whomever gets the honours for the next animated short.

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 6:32 PM

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Agreed

errant void Sep 14, 2018, 6:39 PM

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Would I like a Talon short? Yes. But I love the shorts anyways

peak escarp Sep 14, 2018, 6:44 PM

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I wish they'd tell us what's going on with the comics

timid eagle Sep 14, 2018, 11:04 PM

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My guess, and this is taking from industry experience, is that they are probably going to regulate the comics to the archives event. They have to hire the artists, and usually there's a lot of back and forth between the freelancer and the staff.

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And, this stuff is to promote the game. And with OWL being all big and bloated as a marking material that it can be, it's only fair that they are going to divert more resources to that.

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 1:08 AM

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Diverting dev resources to OWL makes sense

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But artists? Writers? They have nothing to do with OWL

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All the comics are commissioned by Blizzard from independent artists

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It would not really cost them any resources (except money) to keep making comics

iron plume Sep 15, 2018, 1:24 AM

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they’re not diverting much in the way of dev resources to owl either

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it’s a separate entity and it’s largely about organizing the event itself

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 1:24 AM

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They said they were

iron plume Sep 15, 2018, 1:25 AM

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spectator mode improvements aren’t just owl
although they’re likely mostly driven by it

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aside from skins there isn’t anything exclusive to owl in the game

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What is an arguable point is that it’s essentially promotion space / “attention economy”

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in that lore releases were a primary marketing tool at and around the launch

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while now the competitive scene fills that role

timid eagle Sep 15, 2018, 1:36 AM

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Hiring freelance artists costs money, and they have to budget appropriately.

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 1:48 AM

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I've been thinking about the Overwatch timeline, and if I had to pick only two solid dates to work from, I'd want to know when Winston sent out the recall, and when Doomfist attacked Numbani airport

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Those are the most important events

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I can figure out roughly when every other major plot point happens just based on those two

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Except maybe Old Soldiers

timid eagle Sep 15, 2018, 1:55 AM

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Old Soliders could probably have taken place after Jack had stolen that prototype visor and assault rifle.

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 1:59 AM

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It would have to be after

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He has the pulse rifle in Egypt

timid eagle Sep 15, 2018, 1:59 AM

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Oh, right.

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 2:03 AM

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I just can't tell when it takes place in relation to Recall

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It's probably after, but there's nothing conclusive to say that

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I put it afterward in my timeline because I had him stealing his gear after Recall

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So maybe the date of Old Soldiers would be the third date I'd want to know

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I would love to know the heroes's birthdays

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Especially Orisa's, since she was created post-Recall

timid eagle Sep 15, 2018, 2:14 AM

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Also, would the game progress after it's launch? The game came out in 2016 and takes place in 2076.

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I wonder if it's 2078.

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 2:14 AM

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I think the game will stay static

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But the lore has progressed about a year so far

timid eagle Sep 15, 2018, 2:15 AM

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True.

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So it might be 2077.

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 2:16 AM

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That's what I figure

timid eagle Sep 15, 2018, 2:17 AM

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It's going to be weird if the game gets a "Days of Future Past" thingy and we can play older versions of the heroes.

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 2:17 AM

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That would be weird

valid shell Sep 15, 2018, 2:17 AM

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You mean a bunch of dead heroes.

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 2:17 AM

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And very unlikely

valid shell Sep 15, 2018, 2:17 AM

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Half the cast is in their 50's/60's.

timid eagle Sep 15, 2018, 2:17 AM

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Grandpa Doomfist puts a funny image in my mind, though.

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"I'm unstoppable, ya whippersnappers!"

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 2:18 AM

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Doomfist is only in his 40s

timid eagle Sep 15, 2018, 2:19 AM

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I was thinking 20+ years into the future.

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 2:19 AM

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The only heroes in their 50s are Soldier, Reaper, Ana, Torbjorn

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The only hero in his 60s is Reinhardt

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The median age of the cast is 35

valid shell Sep 15, 2018, 2:47 AM

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@peak escarp Ana's 60.

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 2:47 AM

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my mistake

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still, 6 people is hardly "half the cast"

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that's more like 20%

worthy rose Sep 15, 2018, 2:51 AM

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All the cool kids are old

limpid agate Sep 15, 2018, 3:06 AM

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Road/Moira/Doomfist are also in their late 40s

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 3:08 AM

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Binge did specify 50s/60s

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but the game does have a good balance of older and younger heroes

limpid agate Sep 15, 2018, 3:11 AM

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8/23 humans are older.

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While only 7/23 are under 30

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8 if its inclusive, because Sombra

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The other 7/8 are in their 30s

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Or Mei, but she's basically 31

swift blaze Sep 15, 2018, 5:00 AM

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Isn't D.Va like 19

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 5:00 AM

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yes

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she's the youngest human hero

swift blaze Sep 15, 2018, 5:01 AM

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Who is the youngest hero out of all of them?

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Not exclusive to just human

subtle dawn Sep 15, 2018, 5:01 AM

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orisa

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 5:02 AM

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Orisa's official age is 1 month

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Wrecking Ball is 14

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D.Va is 19

swift blaze Sep 15, 2018, 5:02 AM

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Oh lol wow

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 5:02 AM

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they're the 3 youngest

swift blaze Sep 15, 2018, 5:02 AM

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I didn't know orisa was 1 month

timid eagle Sep 15, 2018, 5:13 AM

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Yeah, she was literally built from the remains of the model that preceded her.

dense estuary Sep 15, 2018, 6:42 AM

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How long was Mei in the ice box again?

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 6:43 AM

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9 years

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went into deep freeze the year before Retribution

gritty osprey Sep 15, 2018, 7:32 AM

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Wat is mecree backstory

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 7:33 AM

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McCree was a member of the Deadlock Gang, who was notorious for various things. One day they got busted by Overwatch and Jesse McCree was given the choice to either spend life in prison or join Overwatch.

gritty osprey Sep 15, 2018, 7:34 AM

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Oh okay thanks man

peak escarp Sep 15, 2018, 7:34 AM

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🤠

regal coyote Sep 15, 2018, 10:50 AM

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basic to avoid all heroes are of legal age, like 19+

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exceptions are made for non human heroes.

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hammond is relatively the oldest, not sure about the age of the 'ball itself.

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Yes, 14 yo is really really old, many times older than rein. Consider the normal lifespan of a hammie is 2-3 yo mx.

tranquil sun Sep 15, 2018, 11:32 AM

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why is Tracer the mascot? she has no significance in the lore

subtle gulch Sep 15, 2018, 11:42 AM

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booby

native kayak Sep 15, 2018, 11:56 AM

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@tranquil sun lmaooo ur trolling right? Haha

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She was in both the old and new overwatch why shouldnt she be the mascot?

iron plume Sep 15, 2018, 12:16 PM

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realistically it’s because she’s the most marketable
but saying she doesn’t have lore significance is still wrong

split shuttle Sep 15, 2018, 12:51 PM

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tomboy yet handsome look,goofy personality. so,she is appealing enough for everyone with no place for feminists to attack. besides she has some lore to cover her place

civic dome Sep 15, 2018, 1:30 PM

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How did reinhardt get the crusader suit back

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:39 PM

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@civic dome uh, did he ever lose it?

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@split shuttle uh, "no place for feminists to attack"? what?

split shuttle Sep 15, 2018, 1:41 PM

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u know...these kind of feminists who have nothing else to do than attacking the game industry for being too sexist

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:41 PM

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uhh

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 1:41 PM

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tracer is just cool af

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plus i think she might have been one of the first heros they thought up/completed i think

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i thought the mascot was soldier because he was the commander of overwatch

split shuttle Sep 15, 2018, 1:43 PM

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soldier seems to look too generic for a cover

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:43 PM

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just so we're clear, I don't think Blizzard has this kind of "anti-SJW" mindset in the slightest

split shuttle Sep 15, 2018, 1:43 PM

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they have. they even changed the tracer pose after those idiots complaining

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 1:43 PM

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if anything theyre too SJW lol

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like banning the one pro player because he used a stupid twitch emote

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:44 PM

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... you mean a forum thread where a player commented that the pose didn't really fit Tracer's personality

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and they agreed

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and after they changed the pose, it suited Tracer just fine

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 1:44 PM

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which was kinda dumb

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but its like whatever its just one pose

split shuttle Sep 15, 2018, 1:44 PM

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it didnt fit cause it was ''flirty''

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thats what they said

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:45 PM

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well, yeah, cause Tracer's not exactly a sex model

split shuttle Sep 15, 2018, 1:45 PM

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and I personally think that overwatch did a good job for females design wise. they dont really look over the top sexual wise

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:45 PM

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... "females"

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 1:45 PM

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the pose wasnt even that bad lol

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i thought it was funny

split shuttle Sep 15, 2018, 1:46 PM

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girls/women. why are u quoting me like u are mad

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 1:46 PM

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honestly people overreact to stuff like this wayy too much on both sides

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:46 PM

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I just have little tolerance for reactionary "anti-SJW" bullshit

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tbh

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 1:46 PM

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like with overwatch u have the SJWs overreacting to a SINGLE out of place pose

split shuttle Sep 15, 2018, 1:47 PM

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yea,thats the point. its an overreaction

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 1:47 PM

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and then u have the mgtow nerds getting mad about women in battlefield 5

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its stupid

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:47 PM

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look, people are free to comment on racism or sexism - these are bad things that we should avoid, right?

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 1:48 PM

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i mean i guess ? idk what that has to do with the previous statements though Think

split shuttle Sep 15, 2018, 1:48 PM

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if people complain about sexism in a fkn video game, I cant take them serious. simple as that. they should care for real problems like the mindset of men in saudi arabia

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 1:49 PM

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^^^

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:49 PM

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so, when people comment that something might have racist or sexist connotations - you don't have to get involved, but a kneejerk "wow, triggererd much, SJW snowflake?" is the worst fucking thing to do

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 1:49 PM

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well an overreaction is an overreaction

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people are gonna call it for what it is

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but ya

split shuttle Sep 15, 2018, 1:50 PM

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because its simply a stupid complaint which doesnt help

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:50 PM

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then ignore it

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 1:50 PM

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meanwhile blizzard doesnt nerf brig

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AngeryDoggo

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:50 PM

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if it doesn't matter to you, ignore it

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and if you want to push back against it, then don't claim that it's "all the same" to you

split shuttle Sep 15, 2018, 1:51 PM

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not a single real woman gets harmed in video games. and besides ,feminists always seem to ignore all the adonis body men ,sometimes with no t-shirt on. I just hate that they always think they are a victim

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 1:51 PM

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the thing is these overreactions have real effects

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like getting a pro player banned

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and fined

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just for a stupid emote

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that wasnt even racist

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if u had the true context

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but blizzard is lazy

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they just want to look good for the public

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:51 PM

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our culture does not exist in a void

split shuttle Sep 15, 2018, 1:52 PM

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and u cant ignore them if they are aggressive

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:52 PM

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what was the emote, exactly?

split shuttle Sep 15, 2018, 1:52 PM

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they spam their shit in a rude tone everywhere on twitter

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 1:52 PM

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i think it was Trihard 7

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trihard is another streamer

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that is black

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and he just happened to type it out

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while a black commentator was on the camera

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so people took that out of context to twitter

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and got him in trouble for it

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even though it was an emote that he used for a LONG time

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before pro

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league

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:53 PM

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Twitch chat is a cesspool

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 1:53 PM

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thats why its rediculous

split shuttle Sep 15, 2018, 1:54 PM

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btw,thats not lore-discussion. might as well switch it to #general-discussion before we get in trouble

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:54 PM

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yeah, indeed we should

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 1:54 PM

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ya

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my last message on the subject... tracer is really cool B) thats why she deserves mascot spot

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 1:55 PM

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Tracer's great

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everything about her is so upbeat and optimistic

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love it ❤

iron plume Sep 15, 2018, 2:00 PM

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she’s also an annoying little shit but people only find that out when they play

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 2:01 PM

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the nicest characters are the most annoying in gameplay

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Genji's another example

iron plume Sep 15, 2018, 2:03 PM

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eh idk
hog has been that for over a year and he’s far from the nicest

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 2:03 PM

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hmm

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I guess

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 2:05 PM

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tracer is only annoying because shes a great DPS if you have skill

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in low elo all i see are trash tracers

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that i can just kill with my hanzo

valid shell Sep 15, 2018, 2:41 PM

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Less gameplay talk please.

halcyon skiff Sep 15, 2018, 2:43 PM

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When I first started playing the game I thought that Lucio was Jamaican, but when the first lucio ball came out, I learned that he was brazillian

frosty shell Sep 15, 2018, 3:29 PM

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As for why Tracer is the mascot, it's because Tracer was the first character to be realized during development

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She was directly based off of Project Titan's Jumpers

full sparrow Sep 15, 2018, 3:30 PM

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o sweet so i was right

nova elbow Sep 15, 2018, 3:40 PM

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she also seems like the most original character… her personality is still a stereotype but I don't know if there's even been a timeline jumper like that
whereas there are plenty of mutated animals, cowboys, and cyborg ninjas

regal coyote Sep 15, 2018, 4:37 PM

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yes things like tracer is scraps from Project Titans

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tracer, reaper, soldier, etc are all different aspacts of the Project Titans class jumper (or whatever you calll it)

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at least for their abilities, and a bit of the design too

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the personality though si different

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have to say tracer is lovely in terms of both character design and eprsonality and style, even though her voice maybe a bit overdone. :3

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also having stereotype is not bad

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in most medium and shows and games you need some stereotype to be bright and obvious

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not everyone have hours of time to read into lore before they play a game that is a hero shooter. and it is different from roleplaying gams lots.

tepid hinge Sep 15, 2018, 6:20 PM

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It not stereotype.
it totally new.
Me smart.
It not dying u just dumb head.
Overwatch good.

valid shell Sep 15, 2018, 6:23 PM

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@tepid hinge Are you okay?

tepid hinge Sep 15, 2018, 6:29 PM

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I just summarized what hamster milk said.

valid shell Sep 15, 2018, 6:36 PM

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English isn't his first language.

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Don't be rude.

dire timber Sep 15, 2018, 7:07 PM

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I'm confused

nova elbow Sep 15, 2018, 7:39 PM

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well yeah, that's what overwatch is doing, it's taking stereotypes and putting a twist on them to add depth

iron plume Sep 15, 2018, 8:04 PM

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that can be applied to literally any good characters

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there's no one who doesn't ultimately consist of tropes

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but you can use or combine them in interesting ways

regal coyote Sep 15, 2018, 8:08 PM

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also being a bit on the trope side is actually important for overwatch

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it would be utterly confusing if people looking and acting like tracer turns out to be a tank, or someone looking and acting like rein being a healer

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overwatch is a hero shooter first, and lore comes after that.

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confusing people hwo just want to play a game (without going into lore) is not good for ow

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so there is somewhat a trope for being a tank, or a healer or a fast dps type

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in an rpg or other story driven game you can have things that goes against it, like a gentle giant healer, but in games like ow it would be confusing

dense estuary Sep 15, 2018, 9:47 PM

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Tropes are good in entertainment especially visual. For games certain character tropes also help new players get an estimate of a character from looks before they get to descriptions

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When one sees Rein he is a big guy in big armor. Brings visions of a classic knight. So you know he’s a damage soaker.

limpid agate Sep 15, 2018, 9:53 PM

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That is very intentional

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Chu used that exact example at GDC

regal coyote Sep 15, 2018, 9:54 PM

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^

worthy rose Sep 16, 2018, 12:22 AM

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Orisa is your mechanic cow protector robot

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Who has a thing that plays techno music for you so your teammates are feeling stronger

valid shell Sep 16, 2018, 12:35 AM

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@worthy rose What

worthy rose Sep 16, 2018, 12:36 AM

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it's a bit stretched out

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but she looks like a bit like a mechanical cow

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and the supercharger has a loud buzzing sound

limpid agate Sep 16, 2018, 12:42 AM

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Thats not a trope

errant void Sep 16, 2018, 12:56 AM

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Yeah, that isn't it chief

waxen glen Sep 16, 2018, 1:08 AM

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Gdc?

valid shell Sep 16, 2018, 1:16 AM

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@waxen glen Game Developers Conference.

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Ez google.

worthy rose Sep 16, 2018, 2:04 AM

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Ez google.

tawny patio Sep 16, 2018, 2:20 AM

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I feel like enough characters are trope looking that you can get a fair feel for what you’re getting into

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And then there’s like...
Bastion
I do not think murder turret when I look at Bastion

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Orisa
Nothing about her implies what she is

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But at the same time they made sure to make the tropey characters with enough depth that they aren’t boring

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So for a casual player there’s tropes
And for a lore follower there’s some substance

timid eagle Sep 16, 2018, 2:51 AM

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Orisa is a pretty unique character.

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Helps that her design aesthetics are heavily based on AfroFuturism.

cedar moon Sep 16, 2018, 4:29 AM

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What does vishkar mean by “improving” things

errant void Sep 16, 2018, 4:33 AM

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Vishkar wants to create self-sustaining cities, and has in India. They want to help people, and develop their lives. They just do it terribly lol

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Like in Rio De Janeiro, they said they would "improve their lives," while reinforcing curfews, using them for labor, etc

timid eagle Sep 16, 2018, 4:43 AM

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Instead, they basically put most of the lower class in jobs that is basically described as slave labour.

peak escarp Sep 16, 2018, 4:55 AM

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Vishkar thinks more orderly = better

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so they want rules and regulations and strictness

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which is bad for people who want the freedom to do what they want, when they want it

regal coyote Sep 16, 2018, 4:59 AM

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Vishkar is for a 1984 style society basically.

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With a bit differences obviously but yes they like things orderly and highly controlled.

errant void Sep 16, 2018, 1:04 PM

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That's why I like the voice-line interaction between Lucio and Symmetra.
"What you Vishkar will never understand is that people should be free."
"What you call freedom, I call anarchy."

regal coyote Sep 16, 2018, 2:07 PM

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^ THIS

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also i feel strange about Lucio joining ow for this reason mainly

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lucio woud not like to join an orderly organization

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well i guess the current new overwatch is ok, partly cause of its unofficial status

short scaffold Sep 16, 2018, 2:08 PM

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Maybe if we got some more information on what Lucio is like as a person :))

regal coyote Sep 16, 2018, 2:08 PM

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but when things got bigger there has to be an order and structure system.

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by then, will there be a sort of "ow civilwar 2.0" kinda like cap vs stark?

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we know him as a chaotic good hero

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we know him inciting riot against oppressing vishkar

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we know him taking the speakers from vishkar

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he is also a worldwide star

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so i guess the speaker system is not legit or openly owned by vishkar anyways since they cant press charges

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we know lucio likes music, lucioball, and a sort of ice hockey (not stupid grass hockey)

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personality wise we know quite a bit of lucio really, just not much lore

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hell we know he buys stuff for poor kids and teach them how to roll

errant void Sep 16, 2018, 2:21 PM

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We know he's a good person that genuinely cares for the people of his country, and will do anything to protect it. I like how you put it, a hero that is chaotic good. But we definitely don't know much lore about him. But I think we'll be getting to know a lot more as the story progresses

regal coyote Sep 16, 2018, 3:27 PM

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newest lucio lore is in shooting stars

limpid agate Sep 16, 2018, 3:32 PM

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That's more DVa/Daehyun lore

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And its also not new

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Just, she listens to his music

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We knew that

regal coyote Sep 16, 2018, 5:05 PM

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also i notice something though it might just be blizz stubidity and guys having a bad perspective on sizes (probably due to their own small hardware hence their big cars)

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if you go check the size of the MEKA in the new mp, and compare it with a Tokki you have when piloting D.Va

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DVa's meka is quite a bit smaller

peak escarp Sep 16, 2018, 5:07 PM

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hers does seem like one of the smallest

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probably because she's more mobile?

regal coyote Sep 16, 2018, 5:12 PM

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not just by a lil bit though

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the difference is huge

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even compare to smaller one like casino

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and casino is kneeling in the garage

ornate cloud Sep 16, 2018, 6:06 PM

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I need an explanation for Reaper

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I know Mercy did that and he was with Blackwatch but like

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I need

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Things

regal coyote Sep 16, 2018, 6:07 PM

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not mercy. moira

ornate cloud Sep 16, 2018, 6:09 PM

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I heard it was Mercy

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And the dialogue they have

iron plume Sep 16, 2018, 6:10 PM

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they don’t

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“what happened to you” doesn’t mean anything

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Reaper’s story is that Reyes was in the soldier enhancement program, the same one as Morrison
and later was part of the original Overwatch

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Led blackwatch and hired Moira, who used him in experiments which gave him the powers
at the fall of overwatch he was in the swiss hq explosion which combined with the moira treatment fucked him up into what he is now

peak escarp Sep 16, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Mercy had nothing to do with it

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Also he never actually died in the first place

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The basics of it is, Moira manipulated his genome so he could decay and regenerate his cells at will - when he was injured in the Swiss HQ explosion, something caused that to become uncontrollable

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Now he is constantly decaying and regenerating, and struggles to keep his form when he gets injured

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And he's implied to be in constant pain

regal coyote Sep 16, 2018, 6:40 PM

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"when he was injured in the Swiss HQ explosion, something caused that to become uncontrollable" a bit guesswork here

peak escarp Sep 16, 2018, 6:49 PM

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A little bit

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But some sources do say he constantly decays and regenerates

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"It is possible that he is a byproduct of failed genetic alteration which forces his cells to simultaneously decay and regenerate at a hyper-accelerated rate."

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That's the speculation from his bio, so I'm not far off

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His abilities clearly aren't stable

loud raptor Sep 16, 2018, 7:16 PM

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wow

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what is this chan about?

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they should give reaper some claws

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and rename him to logan

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and they should rename s76 to steve rogers

valid shell Sep 16, 2018, 7:23 PM

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@loud raptor It's about lore discussion.

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Shitposting will result in loss of access.

loud raptor Sep 16, 2018, 7:24 PM

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where did tracer get her stuff from>

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?

regal coyote Sep 16, 2018, 7:31 PM

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failed experiments

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the gear is from winston

bitter tulip Sep 16, 2018, 8:26 PM

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Anyone wondering what Reaper looks like without the mask. After the explosion ofc.

split shuttle Sep 16, 2018, 8:29 PM

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prolly like darth vader

dawn chasm Sep 16, 2018, 8:34 PM

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Pale

cedar moon Sep 16, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Deadpool like

timid eagle Sep 16, 2018, 9:37 PM

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He'd probably be either horribly disfigured, or corpse-like.

peak escarp Sep 16, 2018, 10:16 PM

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They'll probably never show it

valid shell Sep 16, 2018, 10:21 PM

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^ There's the real loremaster answer.

peak escarp Sep 16, 2018, 10:22 PM

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But then again, I didn't think they'd give us Sombra's real name, so

runic scroll Sep 16, 2018, 10:25 PM

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i wonder if her actual name will even be relevant though

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outside of just the fact that somebody knows her name

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maybe there will be another character, playable or not, who is seemingly related to her because of the name?

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i also feel like showing what reaper looks like now is kind of irrelevant unless you specifically make other story elements to make it relevant

rocky vapor Sep 16, 2018, 11:23 PM

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There are a lot of artist depictions of Reaper without the mask, and some of them look what you’d expect Reaper to look like under the mask.

peak escarp Sep 17, 2018, 1:08 AM

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A lot of them give him extra eyes or make him look demonic

peak escarp Sep 17, 2018, 1:25 AM

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I'd prefer if they kept the mystery

limpid agate Sep 17, 2018, 1:27 AM

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We probably wont see whats under the mask

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Which is fine

twilit geode Sep 17, 2018, 2:31 AM

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No probably not. If blizzard keeps up the family friendly cinematics for no reason then no

errant void Sep 17, 2018, 2:31 AM

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I would prefer not to, to be honest. The whole point of his character is being shrouded in mystery. Ana is the only member of Overwatch to have seen his face

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Also. I genuinely don't think that is Sombra's real name

peak escarp Sep 17, 2018, 2:32 AM

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why not?

errant void Sep 17, 2018, 2:34 AM

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Colomar is not a Spanish name, it is Catalan. And, really? Sombra give anyone her real name, much less leave any trace of it in existence? Not likely

valid shell Sep 17, 2018, 2:34 AM

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@rocky vapor Most of those depictions are cringy af.

errant void Sep 17, 2018, 2:35 AM

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Is it entirely possible that it is her actual name, yes. Her reaction in the comic where Zarya tracks her down is reason enough to believe it. But the reaction could also have been from even a fake name being discovered by a soldier of Volskya

peak escarp Sep 17, 2018, 2:36 AM

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it's also used for a Sombra icon in the game, so that lends some validity to it

regal coyote Sep 17, 2018, 5:19 AM

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it can be her real name or a really commonly used alias. either way it is intimate enough to generate a reaction.

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Most likely it is the name that is used when interacting with the town folks, since it is Aj the little girl that snitches on her.

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On Gabe/Reaper, under the amsk still resembles Gabe or Ana won't have recognized. Guess is probably looking like a corpse.

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also i am still not sure how much of the zarya-sombra encounter is planned

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Obviously Sombra is waiting for Zarya, and she has even planted a virus in the droid so it can be activated.

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And with zarya making such a loud trip searching for her it is obvious sombra would have all the data she needs on her, including her weapon.

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So, how much of that encounter is planned, and how much is faked?

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I would guess sombra did want to confront zarya, and leak some info to her. This part is probably still true in sombra's plan.

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Though she might be underestimating zarya in a fight.

errant void Sep 17, 2018, 11:17 AM

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I agree with you, I believe most of the meeting was planned. We know she wouldn't pass up the opportunity to plan a meeting with someone lol

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And it would make complete sense, if Sombra heard of a soldier of Volskya tracking her down, she would want to see how much she knew, and what she didn't know; No one knew who she was prior to this

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Plus... It isn't exactly friendly to have someone hunt you down lol

native kayak Sep 17, 2018, 8:43 PM

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Where did pharah get her suit?

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Helix?

limpid agate Sep 17, 2018, 8:44 PM

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Most likely

young raptor Sep 17, 2018, 8:45 PM

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I am pretty sure the suit has the logo on it or something

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or maybe it was the shuttle

peak escarp Sep 17, 2018, 8:57 PM

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The Helix logo is on the side of the sandcrawler on Temple of Anubis

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📎 helixsecurities_logo1.png

twilit geode Sep 18, 2018, 1:14 AM

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Yeah I wonder where pharah fits into ow other than growing up with them

timid eagle Sep 18, 2018, 2:41 AM

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She wanted to join the organization, but lost her chance when it shut down.

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She the joined the military, then left (with distinction) to join Helix.

iron plume Sep 18, 2018, 7:43 AM

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There's heavy implication that Ana blocked her from joining even before the fall

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Pharah is 32 in game's time, she'd be 25 by the fall which is way past when they start accepting
and would be too late to initially join the military

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 2:13 PM

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that makes me think that you can't just apply to join Overwatch

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you have to be recruited

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and because of Ana, Pharah never got the invite

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For every hero that we know the circumstances of them joining Overwatch, we know that they were invited

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The original strike team was invited, McCree was invited, Mercy was invited, Tracer was invited

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The only one we don't know is Winston

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This would explain why Fareeha joined the military first - to build up a record that would earn her an invite

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She did join the military while Overwatch was still active

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"She enlisted in the Egyptian army, and her dogged persistence and tactical prowess caused her to rise up through the officer ranks. She was a courageous leader and earned the loyalty of all who served under her. With her exemplary record, Fareeha was well placed to join the ranks of Overwatch, but before she had that opportunity, Overwatch was disbanded."

frosty shell Sep 18, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Sombra implies as much (that Ana wouldn't let her join) in an interaction

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Yep

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I wonder if Ana will ever admit to it

regal coyote Sep 18, 2018, 2:58 PM

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@peak escarp well, by the time Pharah is a good leader, either Ana is gone, or it is where ow starts its downward spiral where people start to distrust them

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so it is reasonable Ana wont want Paharah to join the leaking ship

twilit geode Sep 18, 2018, 3:58 PM

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Well didn't ana fight so pharah could have a peaceful life? That's why I thought she joined ow so I wouldn't let my kid join either

nova elbow Sep 18, 2018, 4:05 PM

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them meeting again is going to be interesting

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 6:02 PM

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It's probably well padded

cunning ledge Sep 18, 2018, 6:06 PM

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the middle section is also pretty well stabilised as the mech walks and flies

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you can see her hands barely move in the walk cycle

native kayak Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

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Poor Fareeha, I bet Ana wanted her to become a doctor or something else civil lol

errant void Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

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Do Ana and Pharah not have any voiceline interactions? I could have sworn they did

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

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Something less dangerous

errant void Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

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I know Ana has one with Soldier, but...

native kayak Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

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Yeah they do

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

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They have some

native kayak Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

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Ana says she supports her now

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Her dream to join OW

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So hopefully after recall she can join:)

errant void Sep 18, 2018, 6:40 PM

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I didn't know that, thanks! I think it would make sense for Pharah to join, especially with her mothers permission now

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 6:40 PM

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She probably will

native kayak Sep 18, 2018, 6:40 PM

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Totally, she’d make one kick ass strike commander imo😎

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 6:41 PM

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Strike commander? She'd be a cadet

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You don't get to run things just because your mom was a founder

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Winston would be strike commander

haughty thorn Sep 18, 2018, 6:41 PM

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I doubt that overwatch can become a thing again

native kayak Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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Well maybe one day she could be

errant void Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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With Talon becoming an increasing presence in the world, I think it's completely possible

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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It already is a thing

haughty thorn Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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Like, an official legal organization

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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They're acting illegally, but Overwatch has been recalled

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I think if they did something significant they could earn another charter

errant void Sep 18, 2018, 6:43 PM

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I think it's possible they will eventually become a legal organization, and the Petras act will be repealed. Taking down Talon would merit that lol

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 6:43 PM

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But it would have to be at least as big as ending the omnic crisis

haughty thorn Sep 18, 2018, 6:44 PM

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And even, then the petras act might still be a thing

errant void Sep 18, 2018, 6:44 PM

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Maybe it will limit the actions of Overwatch?

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Instead of restrict it entirely, I mean

haughty thorn Sep 18, 2018, 6:44 PM

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It's gonna take a lot of country's approval

errant void Sep 18, 2018, 6:45 PM

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Yeah, true, and some countries are very anti-Overwatch

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 6:45 PM

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Just the UN would have to approve

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That's all they needed originally

haughty thorn Sep 18, 2018, 6:45 PM

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Is the uk part of the un?

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 6:46 PM

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Yes

errant void Sep 18, 2018, 6:46 PM

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It would have to at least by a synonymous (Probably not the right word lmao it's been a long day)vote

haughty thorn Sep 18, 2018, 6:46 PM

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And they banned overwatch activity in london

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So i doubt they would

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 6:47 PM

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They could be convinced if Overwatch could prove they were needed

errant void Sep 18, 2018, 6:47 PM

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If taking Talon wouldn't repair the image of Overwatch to the world, I don't know what would

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Maybe Talon will make a big push for control soon, forcing Overwatch to come into the light again

haughty thorn Sep 18, 2018, 6:48 PM

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Maybe

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it's reformation would be heavily opposed by the public though

errant void Sep 18, 2018, 6:53 PM

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For sure. But once Talon becomes public, I doubt as many people would be opposed to it

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 6:53 PM

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The public still likes Overwatch

errant void Sep 18, 2018, 6:54 PM

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Who knows, anything is possible. But I definitely think Talon will be heavily involved

quiet junco Sep 18, 2018, 6:56 PM

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OW doesn’t care about lore sadly.

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 6:59 PM

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Clearly they do, or this channel would have no purpose

tawny patio Sep 18, 2018, 7:02 PM

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This is my favorite channel tbh

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 7:02 PM

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https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/20130523

Overwatch

Learn more about Overwatch’s heroic gameplay.

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This article shows that public sentiment isn't as negative as it was during the fall of Overwatch, and they could probably get enough public support to continue operating

errant void Sep 18, 2018, 7:15 PM

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@tawny patio mine too

last sorrel Sep 18, 2018, 9:27 PM

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I noticed something last night with sombra and pharah before the match started, sombra said something like to pharah like “I wonder why you weren’t asked to join overwatch.” and pharah replied “get lost.” I smell beef?

cunning ledge Sep 18, 2018, 9:28 PM

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Sombra and Pharah have never met

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 9:29 PM

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Sombra is alluding to the fact that Pharah was never invited to join Overwatch

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likely because Ana prevented it

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with the amount of things Sombra knows, she probably knows that Pharah was never invited to Overwatch and maybe even why

limpid agate Sep 18, 2018, 9:36 PM

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Sombra has only ever met there other Talon heroes (except maybe Moira), and Zarya.

last sorrel Sep 18, 2018, 9:44 PM

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She met Zarya? Where?

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 9:44 PM

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http://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us/zarya-searching

Blizzard | Comic Book Experience

limpid agate Sep 18, 2018, 9:46 PM

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Read the comics

fresh mica Sep 18, 2018, 10:08 PM

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who else thinks widow and tracer should fuck

white cobalt Sep 18, 2018, 10:09 PM

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Shitposting will result in loss of access.

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 10:17 PM

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no

cedar galleon Sep 18, 2018, 10:33 PM

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Does anyone else see a scenario where a neo-overwatch fights a bad guy coalition in a distant future where Blizzard actually progresses the lore

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 10:34 PM

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that does seem to be the way they're setting things up

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new-Overwatch and Talon will probably have a big clash at some point

cedar galleon Sep 18, 2018, 10:35 PM

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With the probable exclusion of oddball characters like symmetra and hammond

peak escarp Sep 18, 2018, 10:36 PM

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Symmetra and Hammond are both outsiders right now - not part of either side

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Symmetra might get drawn into Talon because of her boss Sanjay

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and Hammond could go looking for his old pal Winston and join new-Overwatch

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but that's just speculation at this point

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they could end up being independants

obtuse iron Sep 18, 2018, 10:38 PM

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Hammond for talon! nice

timid eagle Sep 18, 2018, 10:43 PM

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Roadhog & Junkrat are still having their fun globe trotting, stealing anything that isn’t bolted to the ground.

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Unless that ended and are back in Australia, trying to get back into Junkertown (for some reason).

inner surge Sep 18, 2018, 11:07 PM

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pretty sure they are back in australia by now; and the reason is revenge

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the plan is to steal stuff, come back to australia, get in to junkertown with a pile of treasure and disguises, walk up to the queen's place, "haha it's a bomb!", boom.

sudden condor Sep 18, 2018, 11:10 PM

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Mercy is from Zürich? Mitterä söttigä Berlinerakkzänt!? Hüügottsdonneri

timid eagle Sep 19, 2018, 12:34 AM

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@inner surge Yeah, & it’s Junkrat’s half-baked plan for revenge. LOL

viral olive Sep 19, 2018, 1:17 AM

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Bastion is best lore

errant void Sep 19, 2018, 1:30 AM

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I definitely think Symmetra will be involved in whatever happens between Overwatch and Talon

valid shell Sep 19, 2018, 1:32 AM

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@errant void How so?

errant void Sep 19, 2018, 1:37 AM

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In the comic, she doesn't agree with everything Sanjay will do to achieve "peace." She wants to make the world a better place, and can look away from the things he does, like blowing up the building with people still inside, but she seems almost disconnected from it.

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I think it will progress to a point that Symmetra is unable to look away from the things he will do to achieve "peace."

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She genuinely seems to believe that they are doing the right thing. But she can't be under that illusion for much longer

valid shell Sep 19, 2018, 1:42 AM

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Then how does she fit into the Talon vs. Overwatch conflict?

errant void Sep 19, 2018, 1:43 AM

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Sanjay, who is in Vishkar, is a Talon council member. Who else would Symmetra turn to when Sanjay becomes too powerful in Vishkar through Talon?

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It's just a thought, I could be completely wrong. But I would like to see more of Symmetra

valid shell Sep 19, 2018, 2:07 AM

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I would also like to see more of Symmetra, but she's better utilized than that.

worthy rose Sep 19, 2018, 2:08 AM

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I liked the lore

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then there was hammond

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and then I gave up

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 2:10 AM

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Hammond didn't ruin the lore

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he makes sense according to the rules of the OW universe

valid shell Sep 19, 2018, 2:12 AM

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@worthy rose You didn't give up after the gorilla?

errant void Sep 19, 2018, 2:14 AM

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Without Hammond, Winston wouldn't have escaped Lunar Colony. Hammond instigated the overthrowing of the facility.

worthy rose Sep 19, 2018, 2:16 AM

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Apes are the closest animals with similar organs and stuff so I was thinking because of the science stuff it was possible

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but a hamster

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as big as a 3 or 4 year old (maybe bigger)

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just

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wat

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 2:19 AM

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@errant void Hammond didn't instigate the ape uprising

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we don't know who started it, but it was likely Simon, one of the chimps

runic scroll Sep 19, 2018, 2:19 AM

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hey guys, do we know anything about how international relations are in the OW universe?

valid shell Sep 19, 2018, 2:19 AM

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@errant void Abjectly false.

runic scroll Sep 19, 2018, 2:20 AM

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like is country-country hostility still a thing, or did the Omnic Crisis kind of unite all humans

valid shell Sep 19, 2018, 2:20 AM

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Hammond had nothing to do with the uprising. You're thinking of Simon.

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@runic scroll If it's still a thing, Blizzard isn't going to touch it.

errant void Sep 19, 2018, 2:20 AM

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My mistake.

valid shell Sep 19, 2018, 2:21 AM

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Since the countries and cultures in Overwatch are very real places today.

worthy rose Sep 19, 2018, 2:21 AM

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I said what I said to sees peoples reaction not create debate lol

valid shell Sep 19, 2018, 2:21 AM

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K.

worthy rose Sep 19, 2018, 2:21 AM

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but its interesting seeing peoples theorys and debate so ima take it

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better then any tv show

valid shell Sep 19, 2018, 2:21 AM

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So you want to see reactions without sparking any actual conversation.

worthy rose Sep 19, 2018, 2:22 AM

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yeah pretty much

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its 12 where im at im tired

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dont judge

valid shell Sep 19, 2018, 2:22 AM

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Sure.

worthy rose Sep 19, 2018, 2:22 AM

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I can prove it to you rn

valid shell Sep 19, 2018, 2:22 AM

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Please don't.

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I don't care.

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 2:45 AM

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I don't know, ask #overwatch-serious

abstract sky Sep 19, 2018, 2:51 AM

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Oops clicked the wrong chat

slow cedar Sep 19, 2018, 1:30 PM

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is Mercy really in love with Pharah ?

nova elbow Sep 19, 2018, 1:33 PM

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no

tawny patio Sep 19, 2018, 1:33 PM

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...no..

nova elbow Sep 19, 2018, 1:36 PM

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well, technically we don't know, but it's irrelevant

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 1:43 PM

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surely mercy would love pharah as a sis at least

warm gate Sep 19, 2018, 1:43 PM

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what would make you think that

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 1:43 PM

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but no indication other than anything beyond that

nova elbow Sep 19, 2018, 1:43 PM

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have they ever even met?

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 1:44 PM

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if anything chu is unfortunately supporter of "i need healing"

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yes

warm gate Sep 19, 2018, 1:44 PM

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probaly not pharra isnt even an memeber og overwatch

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 1:44 PM

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yes

warm gate Sep 19, 2018, 1:44 PM

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but she grew up in ow

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 1:44 PM

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look at photos

warm gate Sep 19, 2018, 1:44 PM

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so not as an adult but as a child

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 1:44 PM

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they met but pharah was a kiddo

warm gate Sep 19, 2018, 1:44 PM

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JuliusToday at 15:44
but she grew up in ow

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 1:45 PM

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mercy is not kid at the time

warm gate Sep 19, 2018, 1:45 PM

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y thats why i think its so creepy all this pharra x mercy

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mercy basicly watched her grow up

nova elbow Sep 19, 2018, 1:46 PM

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wait, mercy is only 5 years older than pharah
that seems wrong somehow

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I guess it makes sense with ana's age

native kayak Sep 19, 2018, 1:47 PM

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Tumblr just thinks so lol but not canon

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They’re at least friendly for sure

warm gate Sep 19, 2018, 1:48 PM

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https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/File:Ana_Overwatch_photo.png

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i checked the wiki

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mercy was a teenager when this photo was taken

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so it could be possible

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but it also said she was in university so idk

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Later as she was still a student in university she would visit the Overwatch base and once posed for a photo with Torbjörn, other Overwatch members and a young Pharah.[6]

nova elbow Sep 19, 2018, 1:50 PM

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so pharah would be 14-15

native kayak Sep 19, 2018, 1:51 PM

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Don’t quote me but I’ve read in a lot of places that angela was like 17 in that photo making fareeha 12

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mccree was also 17

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 1:52 PM

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Mercy was 17 in that picture

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Fareeha was 12

sudden condor Sep 19, 2018, 1:52 PM

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Are Angela's parents from Germany?

native kayak Sep 19, 2018, 1:52 PM

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but yeah she wasnt in ow yet

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I dunno lol but swiss ppl speak german(?)

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 1:55 PM

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yes

sudden condor Sep 19, 2018, 1:55 PM

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I know but it's very distinct... but kids raised with German parents can have the Berliner accent she has.

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 1:55 PM

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Switzerland shares the languages of the countries it borders

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📎 ages.png

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the ages of everyone in that picture

native kayak Sep 19, 2018, 1:57 PM

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asks luci pohl

sudden condor Sep 19, 2018, 1:57 PM

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I shouldn't nit-pick I guess.... how are you gonna find a good voice-actress from Zürich to show up for new voice lines like "I'm taking care of you Brigitte" buenzli chflagwave

native kayak Sep 19, 2018, 1:57 PM

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Is that the snapchat ink thing💀

limpid agate Sep 19, 2018, 1:58 PM

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Pharah and Mercy have 0 romantic relation

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Their only interactions are not all that important.

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 2:00 PM

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^

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mercy's parents are rottign somewhere, so no it does not matter.

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Mercy seem to know the torby family when young though, so maybe friends of faamily? some sort of relative? torby family saved her?

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whatever it is they close

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but yes mercy-pharah know each other

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and likely they are friendly to each other at the least, and most likely friends, or even like family

limpid agate Sep 19, 2018, 2:04 PM

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There is no sign of romance though

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 2:04 PM

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why would they be like family?

limpid agate Sep 19, 2018, 2:05 PM

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And likely never will be

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 2:05 PM

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no way it is romance. family love, judging from the torby tradition of treating people and associates family.

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you dont romance with family, exception if your lastname is Targaryen or Lannister

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i think itis likely though, for them to treat each other as family.

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saying "likely never will be" is a bit harsh on that.

native kayak Sep 19, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Head canons ❤

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Lol

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 2:06 PM

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torby will mke it happen and ingrid. it is family watch! :3

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hell torby make bastion family.

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pretty sure he would make most family in the end

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 2:09 PM

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I still don't see how Fareeha and Angela would be like family

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as far as we know, that one time she visited from college (the photo from Ana's origin) is the only time they met

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the person Angela would be closest with would probably be Brigitte

limpid agate Sep 19, 2018, 2:12 PM

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Mercy doesn't even have sentimental interactions with Ana

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Just the Lindholms and Genji

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But all her interactions with Pharah were just Ana teasers

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"Your mother would be proud of you"

native kayak Sep 19, 2018, 2:15 PM

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Why does brigitte speak swedish but not TORB... man sounds like a pirate

limpid agate Sep 19, 2018, 2:16 PM

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Because Keith Silverstein doesn't speak Swedish

native kayak Sep 19, 2018, 2:17 PM

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Lovely

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 2:37 PM

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Torb's voice really stands out

native kayak Sep 19, 2018, 2:44 PM

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I HAVE BIG PLANS FER YOU

timid eagle Sep 19, 2018, 2:45 PM

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Yep.

Silverstein is a great voice actor, but you can never convince me that Torb is Swedish.

sudden condor Sep 19, 2018, 2:56 PM

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Ah so that goes across to other Heroes swissblob

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 3:04 PM

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for the most part the heroes are voiced by people of the same ethnicity or who speak the same native language as the hero

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Keith is one of the few exceptions

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Lucio's VA isn't Brazillian, but he made an effort to learn some Portuguese

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Reinhardt's VA isn't German

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and as you pointed out, Mercy's VA isn't Swiss, and speaks German-German rather than Swiss-German

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also I believe Sombra's VA is Colombian not Mexican, if you want to be picky about it

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but she is a native Spanish speaker

iron plume Sep 19, 2018, 3:25 PM

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i mean if you get picky about swiss german you should also get picky about mexican spanish

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also Zarya’s VA isn’t Russian

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 3:26 PM

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oh yeah

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she's Ukrainian, I think?

iron plume Sep 19, 2018, 3:26 PM

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Bulgarian

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 3:27 PM

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but on the whole, Blizzard has done an amazing job with the casting

iron plume Sep 19, 2018, 3:27 PM

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Ukrainian people barely have an accent speaking russian for the most part

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Zarya’s is painfully obvious

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 3:27 PM

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they did get native speakers for the most part, which is more than most games

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I love Doomfist's VA

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He's got so much more gravitas and presence than the guy everyone wanted

sudden condor Sep 19, 2018, 4:03 PM

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TIL: Mercy is trying to say "Hoi zäme" ohgod

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Which means?

sudden condor Sep 19, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Dialect for "hallo zusammen"
"Hello everyone"

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Ahh

cunning ledge Sep 19, 2018, 4:04 PM

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My favourite Doomfist lines are the ending of his monologue in his origins video

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Good weight to them

sudden condor Sep 19, 2018, 4:05 PM

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Nah I get it though, they need to be able to get the voice actors back in the studio when new heroes come out like when Mercy talks to Brigitte.

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:05 PM

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Have you seen the United Nations of Overwatch voice actor panel from 2017?

sudden condor Sep 19, 2018, 4:05 PM

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Gonna be hard to book Frau Iseli every time Mercy needs new voice lines Behehe

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:06 PM

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well it is done in one go so we will ahve to wait

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but they probably did the voice line of the next 2 heroes, at least for their part of interactions

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if any

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:06 PM

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Andrea was talking about how she cast Sahr for the role, and in his audition he said something like "Come here, come here . . . sit down"

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:07 PM

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things like widow is easier since you get to do TWO versions at the same time, sicne she did the french version as well

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:07 PM

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And then he does those lines in the Doomfist voice

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He has such a great voice

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:08 PM

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you know what would be bad, getting Ana voicelines

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her VA is super pusy on different stuff

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:08 PM

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Really?

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:10 PM

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Aysha Selim

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:10 PM

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What else does she do?

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:10 PM

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Aysha was born and raised in Cairo, Egypt, by English Literature Professor and Theatre Critic Dr. Hoda Hebaisha and Founder of the first Experimental Theatre in Egypt Masrah el 100 Korsi (Theatre of the 100 chairs) and Playwriter Abdel Moneim Selim. After graduating from German Evangelist School (DEO) in Cairo, she went on to earn a degree in Psychology with a minor in Theatre from the American University in Cairo (AUC), where she directed 3 plays and acted/danced in several others. Her language skills include Arabic, German, English and French.

She joined the Walt Disney Company in 1998 as Disney Character Voices International's (DCVI) Creative and Operations Manager Middle East for Arabic Dubbing. In 2007 she joined Masreya Media and set up the Dubbing Department. Aysha is also a published short story writer and won a Madalyn Lamont Award in 2007. Other collaborations include working with Lucinda Syson in Cairo casting of the roles of Aladdin and Jasmine in Disney's Live Action Aladdin directed by Guy Ritchie.

Her breakthrough came in 2016 with voicing the character of Ana Amari in Blizzard Entertainment's wildly popular Overwatch and Heroes of The Storm.

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that is IMDB

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Yeah, I read that

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It doesn't look like a lot of work

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:11 PM

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but she also teach literature and does training on arabic voice acting and movie translations

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Ahh okay

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Oh, there's another one I missed

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Jen Cohn isn't Arabic

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:12 PM

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interesting is that she is doing lots of translation related speeches and confrenence

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:12 PM

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So Pharah has no Arabic lines

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:13 PM

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heard she is big on the popularization of things translated into arabic and the like

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yes pharah acteess dont know arabic

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but as said, it is not strange if she does not speak much arabic

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after all she is more likely to speak french well

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haha, not likely

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:14 PM

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French?

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:14 PM

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I know BC, unlike things in Toronto and the like, french is not big in BC area, you ahve better luck speaking in chinese

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:14 PM

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Yeah

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French is hardly spoken here

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:15 PM

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Welll since she is not living on ow base obviously she is likely to live with Sam, in canada.

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:15 PM

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Only if you work for the government

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Sam might know some French

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:15 PM

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and from his tribe (we assume) it is pacific northwest, so it is BC

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sam might know

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but not requiremnt in BC

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and really you dont use much french in BC

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some area people just ignore you speaking french

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:15 PM

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Not really assume - it's in the art book that he's from the Pacific northwest

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:16 PM

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he is from the area, so we assume he lives there, but people can move right :3

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:16 PM

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True

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:16 PM

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but likely still in canada as we know

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:16 PM

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Yes

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:17 PM

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sicne civil serant

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so if and msot likely pharah grew up with parent

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:17 PM

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The IIHF was on the screen in the resturaunt where they were eating in Reflections

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:17 PM

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so she would stay msotly with Sam, while Ana is really busy on ow bases

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:17 PM

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With the Canadian flag on the screen

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:17 PM

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yes, and it ice hockey to boot

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:18 PM

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They wouldn't be watching team Canada in the States

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:18 PM

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and the iron ring

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so she is engineering base too

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:18 PM

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The iron ring is speculation

limpid agate Sep 19, 2018, 4:18 PM

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It's very intentionally Canada

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:18 PM

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That hasn't been confirmed

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:18 PM

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yes definitely canada

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:18 PM

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It could just be a fashion accessory

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:18 PM

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rational guess is she grew up mostly in canada

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no point otherwise really

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:19 PM

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I thought she grew up mostly with Ana

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:19 PM

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not likely

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schooing is a problem

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:19 PM

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We see her with Ana and the OW crew in several pictures

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:19 PM

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and Ana is a bit protective and know ow base is not the safest place

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mostly like visits

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travelling is super fast

peak escarp Sep 19, 2018, 4:19 PM

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And she's close enough with Jack and Gabe to call them by name

regal coyote Sep 19, 2018, 4:20 PM

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i mean, look how fast Tracer/Emily get to winston within hours