#lore-discussion

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slim pewter
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Not that that mean he’s evil

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It just makes sense because his morality is gray enough

gray pilot
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Hammond has a better chance of joining talon than hanzo

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lmao.

cedar moon
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I can see Hammond joining talon

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With the scientists

dire timber
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Hanzo will only join Talon if coerced

cedar moon
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He’s not a junket tho

gray pilot
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Mage i'm pretty sure you can see every hero joining talon in a certain situation.

cedar moon
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Junker*

dire timber
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otherwise, he's not interested

regal coyote
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not really

cedar moon
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Grr I want evil people to be sad about Shut up 😦

regal coyote
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some character like 76 would never join

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or ana

gray pilot
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or Rein

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or Torb

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or Mercy

dire timber
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McCree would also never join

regal coyote
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thanks

cedar moon
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S t o p

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My heart

brisk harbor
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Basically any overwatch agent that hasn't turned

regal coyote
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dont try to make everyone take side

slim pewter
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Zen is most probably the most improbable

gray pilot
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^

regal coyote
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some people are going to be neutral-ish and fickles around their own goals

cedar moon
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Liao in talon

gray pilot
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To be fair

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even in talon

slim pewter
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Bastion is neutral

gray pilot
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it's just some people who just work for themselves

regal coyote
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and not everyone wants to be the classical hero/villian

slim pewter
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Unless someone fucks up his forest

cedar moon
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Bastion in talon would be funny af

gray pilot
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Bastion is like

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the ultimate neutral

slim pewter
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I’d say Bastion is the most neutral. Lol unless his programming is messed with again.

gray pilot
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He could be hacked

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by sombra

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boy that would be a story

slim pewter
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But I think as long as Ganymede is there

gray pilot
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^

green palm
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yea sombra is talon so its a possibility

slim pewter
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Bastion would be able to cope

green palm
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or at least working with them

cedar moon
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Orisa in Overwatch side or nah

slim pewter
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Sombra is gonna fuck him up real bad though

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Orisa is Alejandra.

cedar moon
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She’s not in Overwatch

green palm
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new map looks like orange hana mura

gray pilot
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Orisa is a good neutral,

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not in ow though.

slim pewter
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Which means she is on the side of right

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Not really OW

gray pilot
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Junkrat and Roadhog are more chaotic neutrals

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they side with who pays them the most.

green palm
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what if overwatch are actually the bad guys ThinkingSombra

brisk harbor
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Talon probably has more money

gray pilot
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I mean, I still kinda think they are.

brisk harbor
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They have Max too

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So

green palm
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what would make you think that tho

gray pilot
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Eh, ow has a lot shady buisness we've seen.

cedar moon
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I need someone in talon

brisk harbor
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Wut

green palm
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ptr queue takes forever

slim pewter
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The scariest thing I can think of

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Is if Ana is Talon

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A sleeper agent

green palm
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what if mercy is talon lmao

slim pewter
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Surviving because Widow wanted her to

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Remember

cedar moon
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Bastion in talon is really scary tho

slim pewter
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Widow doesn’t miss on a snipeout

cedar moon
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They’d die

gray pilot
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I mean,

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not really.

cedar moon
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let me fantasize fsksgkygkif

slim pewter
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And Ana survived bleeding out because Talon sent people

gray pilot
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bastion is strong but he's still just an omnic war bot.

slim pewter
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It’s easy to brainwash her

gray pilot
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most ow members have gone vs his kind time and time again.

slim pewter
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Everything she had died or left or just went up and about

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Dude. Bastion is like the weakest hero lore wise

green palm
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poor bastion

gray pilot
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eh not the weakest

slim pewter
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Rein can kill one easily

gray pilot
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but def down there.

slim pewter
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Oh yeah. Sorry. Not weakest. But definitely bot inspiring feats wise.

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An OR-14 has more chance against a Crusader than Bastion. Lels

gray pilot
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yeah

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if I was sombra i'd be looking for orisa

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and ignore the existence of bastion.

slim pewter
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Agree. Orisa is best hack target.

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MEKA not so much. Because hacking a MEKA is not the same as being skilled in controlling it like Song.

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Or you know

gray pilot
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yeah

haughty thorn
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A swiss hq ruins map would be pogchamp

slim pewter
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That stupid giant robot in Volskaya lels

gray pilot
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I still want an exploded ow base

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map

dire timber
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same

gray pilot
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or even like a talon base

dire timber
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Overwatch HQ ruins

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um

gray pilot
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eh actually

dire timber
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what is Rialto

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lmao

gray pilot
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Well Rialto is more like a talon city.

dire timber
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the mansion got a council room and everything

errant elm
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If Overwatch vs Talon Overwatch wins

gray pilot
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Eh

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Do you mean game or lore.

errant elm
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Else the game would’ve benn called Talon

gray pilot
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I mean

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avengers infinity war

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<:

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anyways

errant elm
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And Winston primal rage > Talon

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That’s only part 1

gray pilot
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no they're just seperate movies

errant elm
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Oh lol

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Well ok fair enough but story hasn’t ended yet

gray pilot
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true but stories never truly end. lmao.

errant elm
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Maybe avengers is doing full reboot lol

cedar moon
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How would Overwatch and talon end

gray pilot
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Well

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In the current state

errant elm
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OW wins with a few of Talon joining them

gray pilot
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if talon started a war vs OW

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OW would get gob smacked

cedar moon
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Why talon join them lul

errant elm
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Widow and Reaper become good

gray pilot
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Talon is 2 rich and has too many men for OW in the current state

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Widow only becomes good when talon allows her 2

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and Reaper, doubt it

errant elm
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Yeah sure in current state

regal coyote
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at this point ow needs funds

errant elm
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I was talking when OW has properly reformed

gray pilot
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yeah but

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how long will that take

regal coyote
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and from what we know about heroes, we need a rich guy, whith parents mrutally murdered

gray pilot
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they have 2 threats

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omnics

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and talon

errant elm
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10 years

regal coyote
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rich people should have their parents murdered before they can be heroes as we know it

gray pilot
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the best hope for New OW

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is some of the current heroes joining them

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and some OGs coming back

regal coyote
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staying vegilante is not a problem

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but they need $$$

errant elm
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OW is like 3 members right now

regal coyote
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so a rich guy with dead parents is the trope of hero they need

brisk harbor
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New ow is like secret group

green palm
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do u guys think they will ever make a movie

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i mean there was a wow movie

gray pilot
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Yeah but wow was like

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what

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8 years? when that happened?

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Idk

brisk harbor
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A lot of people would be opposed to the reformation of overwatch

gray pilot
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The only way I could see

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a quick formation of ow

green palm
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i think while the game is still relevant would be the best time

gray pilot
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is if omnics attack

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or talon starts a war

regal coyote
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you mean like a DBZ movie, or Avatar or worse the new ghostbusters? (srsly who make the new ghostbusters should drink lots of bleach)

cedar moon
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If ttg gets a movie

green palm
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ow movie might be good tho

cedar moon
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Why can’t Overwatch

green palm
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the shorts are good

errant elm
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OW movie won’t be good

gray pilot
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The thing is with ow, is that you would really need to do it full CG

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or else it would suck

brisk harbor
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How much money do they spend on shorts

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It seems like a lot

gray pilot
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They could cheapen it alot with doing face capture

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but that's just so meh

errant elm
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Guys look at Warcraft

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If OW would have a movie it has to be now before they get the lore wrong

brisk harbor
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Lol first strike

gray pilot
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yeah but that's warcraft, a game which has been out quintuple the time of ow

errant elm
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If they wait OW would have to much lore for the directors to not make mistakes

gray pilot
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and the movie wasn't even great.

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cause they took the cheap route.

errant elm
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I enjoyed the movie, but it was pretty bad lore-wise etc

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Just keep OW on shorts

gray pilot
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I'd rather just simply longer animated shorts that are more episodic slowly telling a movie

brisk harbor
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Also it'd probably focus on the main plot

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So no dva

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No junkers

gray pilot
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or lucio

errant elm
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Symmetra

brisk harbor
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And like the main cast is like what new overwatch and talon

gray pilot
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Mcree kinda

brisk harbor
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Soldier and ana could be in

gray pilot
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Thing is new overwatch still needs people

errant elm
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Movie is a bad idea

gray pilot
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and they need a lot

brisk harbor
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Even though they're not in new overwatch

gray pilot
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yeah you can get a bunch of fotters

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that will get one shot by reaper on the battlefield

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they need heroes.

dapper shuttle
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Anyone here reads korean?

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한경수 King
권재은 Casino
시승화 Overlord
이유나 D.Mon
송하나 D.Va

errant elm
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Rein, Brigitte, Torb, Bastion and Genji join?

brisk harbor
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They could

gray pilot
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Bastion doubt it

brisk harbor
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But they need more

gray pilot
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brig and rein yes

brisk harbor
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Bastion is with torb

errant elm
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Bastion is with Torb

gray pilot
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Actually wasn't rein hinted at joining

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in his short

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or did I misread that

errant elm
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They probably will all join

brisk harbor
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I must answer always?

errant elm
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It’s just a matter of time

gray pilot
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yeah it seemed like that was his call

brisk harbor
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That's still like nothing

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Compared to Talon

gray pilot
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and brig follows rein so if we assume that they joined

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that brings heroes

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5

errant elm
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What does Talon have?

gray pilot
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They have tons of troops

brisk harbor
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All their op leaders

gray pilot
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money

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and op leaders

brisk harbor
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Reaper sucks at fighting but he can't die

errant elm
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Well fuck a duck

gray pilot
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you can't really kill reaper

brisk harbor
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Reaper lost like 3 times

gray pilot
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but you can trap him

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I believe

brisk harbor
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He jus sucks

gray pilot
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well he can take down tons of fotters

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so

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that's all we need

brisk harbor
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It's shown he can't go through confined spaces so yeah

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Well sealed off

gray pilot
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the real question is

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even with all this talon vs ow mumbo jumbo

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there still leaves a much larger threat

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the omnics

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still something which sneaks up on every part of the world.

brisk harbor
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The overwatch lore is just so diverse

errant elm
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Blizzard isn’t really giving us anything atm

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No real direction

brisk harbor
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There'd have to be like multiple movies and I don't think that'd be a good idea

gray pilot
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to be fair it's fun speculating but I wish we had more concrete stuff.

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Nah

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they just need 3 things

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make short stories

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for characters

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make more comics

dire timber
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I think most of you guys need to catch up on a lot of stuff

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like, I had to correct you on some pretty basic stuff

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like Mercy and Tracer aging normally, or Lucio, Zen, D.va and others not being part of Overwatch

gray pilot
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I knew those things lmao

brisk harbor
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Why do people think mercy doesn't age

dire timber
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I shudder to think what I missed

errant elm
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Eventhough Mercy’s aging she can still be a doctor though?

brisk harbor
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People irl look young

gray pilot
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mostly speculation.

brisk harbor
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At like 60

dire timber
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mostly because of "Are You With Us"

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it showed Jack and Ana as younger than they should've been at the time

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which made people think it was an Omnic Crisis picture

errant elm
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I mean Mercy’s probably going to join OW sometime right?

dire timber
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which had Tracer and Mercy on it

brisk harbor
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Idk

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Mercy seems against it

dire timber
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@errant elm she'll only join if she sees it as the best way to protect people

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otherwise

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she believes Overwatch was shut down for a reason

errant elm
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Blizzard isn’t going to completely leave a hero out

dire timber
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and that reason, being, you know

gray pilot
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To be fair you could also dictate that his hair grew grey fast due to stress but that's again just my personal speculation.

dire timber
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Blackwatch activity, and Moira being allowed to weaponize her tech without her knowledge or permission

errant elm
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Yeah

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But someway or another Mercy’s going to join

dire timber
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it left Mercy quite disullusioned

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she'll join, but she'll hesitate

errant elm
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Maybe after Talon has been taken down

dire timber
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and it'll take a bit of convincing

brisk harbor
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I dont think she really would trust them anymore

errant elm
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We just need smth to give OW stability

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Yeah but she has to get story someway pr another

brisk harbor
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Mercys tech is getting screwed up a lot

dire timber
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@gray pilot nah, they should've looked older in those picks

errant elm
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Ana and Moira...

dire timber
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it's confirmed

gray pilot
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yeah def

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ik that

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but still little things you can add to make it slightly make more sense.

dire timber
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I mean

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it doesn't make sense anyway

gray pilot
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I mean

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we do have genius hamsters in this game

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and talking monkeys

errant elm
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Hammond joining OW when?

brisk harbor
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There are gorillas that can almost talk

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Irl

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So

gray pilot
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there's a difference between almost

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and being a scientist.

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quite a large margin there.

errant elm
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Hammond will save OW from a defeat against Talon

brisk harbor
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I cant really see hammond joining unless they add some lore

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To him

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And there's no way for him knowing it exists

errant elm
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He’ll just fly in and fk like 20 man up

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Winston will contact him

brisk harbor
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As of now winston probably doesn't even know he is still alive

errant elm
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And then we’ll see Winston looking happy in the sky as he sees Hammond flying in

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A tear on his cheek

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And everyone regains motivation

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Tbh Hammond flying in and saving OW would be pretty legit

gray pilot
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until sombra hacks him and makes him useless

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lul

placid bronze
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That’s what I’m talking about

errant elm
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No sombra hack on cooldown cuz she hacked Orisa

gray pilot
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then what if she emps

cedar moon
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5 year cooldown

gray pilot
errant elm
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But the hack has been made useless cuz Efi comes in and fixes orisa

cedar moon
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Hack efi then

errant elm
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Oof

valid shell
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This channel always becomes a mess when a new cinematic drops.

cedar moon
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Remember when ppl thought efi was a hero

valid shell
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"lol waht if teh bird is actualy controlling bastion XDXD"

errant elm
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Remember when people though Hammond was a chimpanzee

placid bronze
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Yes I do remember that

errant elm
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Remember double Winstons playable in regular matches?

brisk harbor
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Ganymede controls bastion

errant elm
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What if we got a stripper hero?

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But than she becomes Hammond

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And still fucks everyone up

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Okay I’ll stop

brisk harbor
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Uh

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Ok...

regal coyote
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feels extremely unease for a discussion to have both stripper and efi in it

errant elm
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If the Meka team were to be playable heroes, what would their abilities be?

cedar moon
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Probably the same but different

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Echo fighters

errant elm
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Please no echo fighters

cedar moon
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Anchor tank mech, mobility mech, strong mech,

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And uhh

errant elm
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Except in a mini game or smth

cedar moon
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Support kecg

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Mech*

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There

regal coyote
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one character jump up and stand on top of the mka and yell really loudly, then they mash all meka together to make a giant robot, and reach for the underground pulling out a fiant sword from a volcano, and split the enemy in half, of which it explodes a few seconds later after the theme song

brisk harbor
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Honestly they'd probably just be echo fighters

regal coyote
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^

cedar moon
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“Yell really loudly”

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What is this

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Transformers

errant elm
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Lol

cedar moon
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Wait

regal coyote
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no it is super hero animation

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you can only attack if you yell out the move name first

cedar moon
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Echo fighters or Semi Clones...

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There is an echo fighter of a semi clone tho

errant elm
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What if we got this ancient hero

regal coyote
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and you cannot transform unless you scream the catch phrase, and transform process took like a minute in front of the enemy, and they will not attack you

cedar moon
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Ana?

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I want a god programmmm

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Re

errant elm
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Who like is that old that he lived during the time there were no omnics

cedar moon
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@regal coyote so like I’ll yell ultimate attack that takes days to form

valid shell
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The fuck is this topic.

cedar moon
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And nothing happens with the enemy

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Same

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@errant elm nami

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You mean as like a kiddo

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I could infer that Rein was a kid and the omnics were peaceful

errant elm
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Just some old guy who was born before the omnics excisted

cedar moon
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He’d be d e a d

errant elm
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Hamsters in a mech

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Try again

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Who comes from the moon btw

cedar moon
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Hamsters can exist

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But not a 254 year old man

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Maybe

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I think

runic scroll
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so i feel like blizzard doesn't really understand korea and assumes they can treat it like an extension of japanese pop culture

errant elm
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Lol

sharp orbit
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@errant elm

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I said this multiple times but

errant elm
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Yes

sharp orbit
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Overlord's drones would heal and attack

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like you send them to your allies using the auto lock

errant elm
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Yes

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So?

sharp orbit
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huh

valid shell
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Is this fanfiction?

sharp orbit
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you asked what would their abilities be

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am I blind

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or did you not ask

valid shell
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Are you pitching an OC?

errant elm
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Oh yeah mb

valid shell
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Because that doesn't happen here.

sharp orbit
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facepalm

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no

cedar moon
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Is this even lore anymore?

valid shell
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No fanfiction.

errant elm
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Yeah that would be realistic for overlord

sharp orbit
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we're talking about the other MEKA pilots

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learn to read Binge

cedar moon
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Overlore

sharp orbit
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holy shit

cedar moon
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Lmfao

sharp orbit
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I swear

valid shell
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Speculating kits for NPCs isn't lore.

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No fanfiction pls.

cedar moon
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@runic scroll do you mean Busan?

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Or the short

runic scroll
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both i guess

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well, the map is fine imo

cedar moon
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Nani el que

sharp orbit
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we're still talking about what the other mechs could be equipped with

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and that can be talked about

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without gameplay context

runic scroll
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the temple is inspired by an actual temple in busan

errant elm
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It is lore cuz he has prove

sharp orbit
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am I wrong

regal coyote
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@valid shell speculating is not, discussing what we know of their mech would be

errant elm
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Overlord has a drone

sharp orbit
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Some people just try to reach

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so hard

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I'm telling you

cedar moon
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I think the mechs could be each role in game

sharp orbit
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get that stick out

cedar moon
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Line anchor tank

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And mobility

runic scroll
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but the writings on Dva's cast has things like "Dva-chan" "Hana-chan"

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in Korean writing

regal coyote
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like,w e know overlord have a central gun, and has drones, and is able to hide its legs, so some transformtion module it seems

runic scroll
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but that kind of title isn't used in Korean

sharp orbit
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Does Overlord even have legs

errant elm
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This binge guy is always trying to look for things people say that are non lore related

sharp orbit
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it looks like a VTOL type mech to me

runic scroll
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it's literally Japanese and people in Korea only use it as a joke

errant elm
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I don’t think so

regal coyote
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the way green princess parks in the garage shows it can somewhat transform too

runic scroll
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and not to the frequency that you'd see people plaster it on someone's cast like that much

sharp orbit
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From that battle pic in the short

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Overlord looks like a VTOL thing

runic scroll
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also, what is this overlord thing

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is this something that actually exists?

sharp orbit
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Overlord is the blue guy

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it's his codename

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like how Hana is D.Va

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her whole squad have their own codenames

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I want D.Mon the most

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she seems to be the D.Va rival I always wanted

runic scroll
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oh, also, the "kuishin" name for omnics is also very un-korean

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yes, the word exists in Korean, but it's more reserved for something that's very elusive

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not something that has a towering presence and destruction

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i'd assume blizzard wanted to name it like Oni from Japanese lore

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and then assumed the direct translation would be kuishin

cedar moon
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D.mon

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Sounds like digimon

sharp orbit
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It's meant to be Demon

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I think

runic scroll
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it's really not

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it's more ghost

sharp orbit
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like how D.Va is probably meant to be Diva

runic scroll
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demon would be akma

worthy rose
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Her squad was part of the overwatch in the golden age of ow?

sharp orbit
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No

runic scroll
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oh you're talking about this dmon guy

sharp orbit
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I'm talking about D.Mon's name

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girl lol

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she's the other girl

runic scroll
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yeah anyway, i'm pretty disappointed by Blizzard acting like they're this developer team that has deep understanding of Korea and stuff

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but treats it like a derivative of Japanese pop culture

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it's really not that hard to hire a Korean person or ask someone with a Korean friend to see if it doesn't feel weird

sharp orbit
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the female D.Va rival who I wanted but I always said she would have a faster and sleeker mech with a DPS role. But it seems I got half of what I wanted. I possibly got the girl, but her mech turned out to be a big brute tank instead

runic scroll
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but hey, all Asians are the same, right?

sharp orbit
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instead Casino seems to have the fast and sleek mech

brisk harbor
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Not all Asians are the same

regal coyote
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something that's very elusive = sounds about right to me, showing up like that with the sneaky tentacle omnic

brisk harbor
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Indian are technically asian

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But no one calls them that

sharp orbit
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we do in UK

runic scroll
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did i really need to put a /s on that

sharp orbit
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Personally I call anyone from Asia (Indians, east Asians like Chinese, Korean, Japanese, etc) asians

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because guess what

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they're all Asian

regal coyote
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but everyone is the same really. in the end all humans are the same ... if you skin them

sharp orbit
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creepy

runic scroll
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lol

brisk harbor
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Not really some people have different organs

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Or reverse organs

sharp orbit
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oh

runic scroll
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but seriously though, i hope blizzard does more cultural research before they try to act like OW is a game that represents inclusivity and diversity

sharp orbit
#

MEKA is definitely anime influenced

#

they follow mecha anime tropes

runic scroll
#

because what they did shows to me that they didn't care enough to research korean culture

brisk harbor
#

I mean they have the Korean dress thing

#

I forgot what it was called

runic scroll
#

korean traditional garb as a whole is called hanbok

#

similar to japanese traditional garb as a whole is called kimono

regal coyote
#

basically some ancient chinese rip off, historically

runic scroll
#

the skin in OW is called palanquin because that's apparently what the wooden carriage translates to in english

#

yeah i'm just disappointed about dva's cast having dva-chan and hana-chan in korean as if they're a part of the korean language widely used by koreans

#

because it's an exclusively japanese way to address someone

regal coyote
#

this a agree

runic scroll
#

other than weebs trying to be japanese, and even then they would only use it as a joke

sharp orbit
#

Also it seems D.Va's mech isn't the only one with a theme. As we all know D.Va and her mech are bunny themed with their logos. We can now see that D.Mon is demon themed, from her name, her mech colour, the shape of the mech, the logo and how Beast is written on it

brisk harbor
#

Koreans are all weebs

runic scroll
#

and not to the frequency that you'd see it that many times on someone's cast

sharp orbit
#

Makes we wonder what the themes of the other mechs are

brisk harbor
#

Disgusting weebs

sharp orbit
#

Perhaps Casino is meant to be race car themed

#

maybe he was the F1 driver

#

that Chu mentioned

regal coyote
#

for sure he is

sharp orbit
#

would be cool

#

or should I say she

#

he/she

regal coyote
#

look at the mech transformed and the pointed tip of the mech

sharp orbit
#

since apparently his name is unisex

runic scroll
#

so now that dva isn't a SC pro, i demand to know what game she was a pro in

#

like what genre

#

obviously it doesn't have to exist

regal coyote
#

pokemon pro

sharp orbit
#

and he looks kinda ambiguous in gender

runic scroll
#

and i'd assume it's FPS

#

but still

brisk harbor
#

I hope we get Casual dva with the hat

sharp orbit
#

I think it could be a mecha game

#

with twin stick controls

#

like her mech

#

that's why she was able to transfer her skills

brisk harbor
#

She also seems to have some experience in engineering

sharp orbit
#

she's a mecha geek

#

would make me love her more

#

considering Ryusei is one too

#

he was also recruited as a mecha pilot from playing a game

#

that's what D.Va reminds me of from that part

#

anyway @regal coyote

#

Where do you see the transformed mode of Casino's mech?

#

Is it the Busan map?

#

I still need to take a look

regal coyote
#

look at how the one in the busan is parked and how it looks in combat

sharp orbit
#

oh shit boy

#

fuuuuuck

#

so basically

#

it has a battle mode

regal coyote
#

yes

sharp orbit
#

and a sleek speed mode?

regal coyote
#

so some meka have transformation ability

sharp orbit
#

dude Casino needs to get in

regal coyote
#

i would say the blue one might have it

sharp orbit
#

fuuuuck

#

so he's on his legs in battle mode

cedar moon
#

I w g p

regal coyote
#

yes, like a YF

cedar moon
#

I want another helix member

sharp orbit
#

then he transforms into a lower to the ground speed mode which is shaped more like a race car

#

the mobility on this thing

regal coyote
#

exactly so he is the F1 racer

sharp orbit
#

yeah

#

he/she must be

regal coyote
#

basically a jet mode and a gerwalk mode

sharp orbit
#

yeah

#

it's like

cedar moon
#

Does d.va’s mech have games on it

#

Maybe it transforms into what they’re professionally good at

sharp orbit
#

it's a race car shape and it stays on the ground like a car, but it has similarities to a jet too because it might hover instead of having wheels

#

basically it's like one of those cars from Cyber Formula

#

the futuristic race cars

#

with jet engines

regal coyote
#

only shit people have cars on the ground.

#

alo cars float and hover

#

cyber formula... i dont think we can reach zero, or can he?

#

fuck he does look a bit like that green hair guy speaking of which, in old school cyber formula

sharp orbit
#

lol

regal coyote
#

(too bad no more of the series ever. the director fucks things up with his wife on the side, case in point gundam seed destiny)

sharp orbit
#

his mech in race car mode would travel along the water's surface

#

he can only fly up in battle mode

#

his wife is dead

#

RIP

regal coyote
#

oh =.=

sharp orbit
#

@cedar moon

#

D.Va's mech would transform into a giant game cartridge lol

#

real talk though

#

D.Mon's mech not only has a shield but I really hope it has a beam sword too

#

and actually

#

I've seen someone else think that too lol

#

not surprising but it's nice

regal coyote
#

only 2 mech can transform, blue and green, so far

#

we know dva cannot

sharp orbit
#

oh I was joking about D.Va's

cedar moon
#

Wh

#

Gaming mode when

sharp orbit
#

well

#

she plays a game in her emote

regal coyote
#

the yellow one is a slower d.va clone, with bigger gun arms and more missiles.... so king is like one of those missile mule mech in old macross

sharp orbit
#

the sit down one

#

yeah

#

he's the missile massacre one

#

he's the backline support

regal coyote
#

from busan map the missile are huge

#

yet another anime magic how he can stuff hundreds of those things in his mech

sharp orbit
#

Casino's mech is the speedster DPS

#

Would definitely main that

#

and D.Mon

regal coyote
#

dmon is tank

#

green one is... i dont know those mech type is usually not that dps-y

sharp orbit
#

priority goes to D.Mon I feel, for who of MEKA gets added next

regal coyote
#

more like burst damage

sharp orbit
#

I want her the most

#

well

regal coyote
#

king is pure dps long range

#

blue overlord we do not know

sharp orbit
#

support

regal coyote
#

the weeb part of me says "funnel"

#

but wonder if blizz is willing to do that

sharp orbit
#

drones would suffice

regal coyote
#

it is tried and true playable concept though, look at GvG

sharp orbit
#

he's like Luka from Macross Frontier

#

he even has the shota look

cedar moon
#

Maybe next event is the Kinshi attack :0

sharp orbit
#

Luka uses the Ghost drones

regal coyote
#

true

#

boyband macross yes

#

though it would be better if he runs it like a quebeley

sharp orbit
#

usually the speedster is the assassin type, and the assassins in this game are DPS, like Genji and Tracer

#

Casino can be DPS

regal coyote
#

true

cedar moon
#

Casino gonna be stunned

#

😦

regal coyote
#

wait the blu does not seem to even have legs

#

but it does ahve drones attached to his back wing

sharp orbit
#

Yeah I thought so

#

it's a VTOL

#

or looks like one

#

at least

#

it's probably the least mech out of them

regal coyote
#

legs are decorations only

sharp orbit
#

more like aircraft

regal coyote
#

you people on top can never understand

sharp orbit
#

but he's still part of the squad

#

nah man

#

legs can kick

#

I bet D.Mon can kick with those rocket boosted legs

#

that should be an ability

brazen flare
#

We have a puncher

sharp orbit
#

yeah D.Mon

regal coyote
#

DMon is different that is super robot

brazen flare
#

Now we need doomfoot

sharp orbit
#

D.Mon agian

#

again

regal coyote
#

overlord is reality type and follows more normal physics rules

brisk harbor
#

Physics in overwatch?

regal coyote
#

yes, like the basketball

brisk harbor
#

Oh sht

sharp orbit
#

anyway sorry for going on for so long about MEKA since the release of the short

#

I just love mecha and I was looking forward to seeing D.Va's team for a long time

#

Can't help it

#

it's also really fun to speculate

cedar moon
#

Mecha

#

Who remembers this

sharp orbit
#

That guy is amazing

#

I love his Cairo map

#

my god

cedar moon
#

Same

#

Does he have a patreon or Kickstarter cus holy

brazen flare
#

Look hear me out guys

#

we have doomFIST

#

but how about doomFOOT

cedar moon
#

Doomfoot would be too op

brazen flare
#

we havent got a weaponized feet person

cedar moon
#

Just stomp and everyone is stunned

brazen flare
#

Now i want it

#

just stomping around

#

theres also gonna be a DPS poison chemicals guy at soem point if the little guy in the hazmat suit ever happens

cedar moon
#

I don’t like Poison re

#

Ana’s DoT is the only thing close to Poison I can take

woeful comet
#

Doomfoots ult would be like rein earthshatter

#

Maybe

#

Or that would be a smaller ability like orisa and her mini grav surge

languid badger
#

yea, Ana and Widow are the most people can tolerate for DoT I'm sure

vague brook
#

So in the new cinematic is that Hana's friend or brother?

brisk harbor
#

Friend

vague brook
#

Alright, was a little confusing at first for some weird reason

brisk harbor
#

She literally says "good friends" so

vague brook
#

Yea

limpid agate
#

Dae-Hyun is her best friend and mechanic @vague brook

random dew
#

Can we have our animated series with a flood of lore now please?

#

Perhaps one through Activision Blizzard Studios (Film and TV arm) done with their partnership with Dreamworks (See Skylanders on Netflix) where a number of Blizzard staff have been spotted over the last year

ember glen
#

@limpid agate and friendzoned friend? 😛

limpid agate
#

There is such a thing as bad questions.

#

Im not answering that.

sharp orbit
#

So I guess Tokki has 2 mechanics now

#

And yes I'm gonna use her mech's name to refer to her mech sometimes

limpid agate
#

One thing I dont like is how Blizzard keeps creating characters that don't do anything just so the hero can have a dialog rather than a monologue.

sharp orbit
#

Same with the rest of the squad

limpid agate
#

Dae-Hyun did about as much as Lynx-17

errant elm
#

Since we now have different meka’s we should indeed use tokki

#

Dae-Hyun will see more though

restive flower
errant elm
#

Dae-Hyun was working on smth at the end and it was hidden

#

And not in an accidental way

sharp orbit
#

Overlord has probably the most badass names though

#

He's called Overlord

#

His mech is called Mastermind

errant elm
#

Yeah but do you really want a hero to be called Overlord?

sharp orbit
#

Yes

limpid agate
#

Overlord would be cool

restive flower
#

We have a hero named "Wrecking Ball"

#

Anything will do

rain arrow
#

I named my computer overlord

limpid agate
#

He might be that summoner archtype everyone (ie me) wants

sharp orbit
#

Besides he would actually bring new things to the table

errant elm
#

Okay, you’re right

sharp orbit
#

He can use support drones

#

No one else can do that

limpid agate
#

Also worth mentioning, if he is a Summoner

#

He is the only one of the 5 who has reason to be a Starcraft pro

severe oxide
#

Couple questions:

  1. the pilots that are crossed out just have their mechs out of commission or are rip?
  2. was one of them Dva’s mom?
errant elm
#

We don’t know if it is a support drone

sharp orbit
#

I don't know why people say the mechs are similar when they're not

limpid agate
#

@severe oxide They're all alive

restive flower
#

They're seen later in the short

limpid agate
#

You see them in an interview later, all injured

sharp orbit
#

Oh assuming they're support drones

#

They likely are tho

limpid agate
#

Also, its not DVas mom

#

Her name is DMon, not DMom

errant elm
#

Well they could be any other drone

severe oxide
#

I just watched the short once without looking for details yet

errant elm
#

The beam doesn’t really suggest dps

limpid agate
#

First thoughts?

severe oxide
#

Her sister maybe then

limpid agate
#

I dont think they're family

rain arrow
#

@limpid agate I'm very interested what you think of the short

errant elm
#

Most likely rivals

severe oxide
#

They have similar names and similar battle names

errant elm
#

Rivals^

#

Probably

severe oxide
#

Why would you pick a battle name similar to your rival

iron plume
#

you don’t

limpid agate
#

I was disappointed by the short. @rain arrow

iron plume
#

you both pick a name with a gimmick

errant elm
#

They could be friends

sharp orbit
#

Her name is Yuna Lee

iron plume
#

and then they’re your rival

severe oxide
#

If anything they look kinda like the gamer tags people in the same team would use

limpid agate
#

It was not bad, but it was not that great either.

sharp orbit
#

She's unlikely to be related to D.Va

rain arrow
#

@limpid agate why is that? Not to debate but curiosity

limpid agate
#

My favourite part of it was the origin story stills

errant elm
#

They probably became rivals after naming themselves

severe oxide
#

Since when is Lee a Korean last name

limpid agate
#

@sharp orbit Where did you get last names?

sharp orbit
#

Well I can't confirm

errant elm
#

@limpid agate It’s just an introduction

sharp orbit
#

But people been claiming it's in the map

#

Probably on screens

limpid agate
#

Im gonna check that now

sharp orbit
#

In the MEKA base

iron plume
#

lee is a korean last name

severe oxide
#

Though it was chinese

#

Thought*

iron plume
#

Mariners had a Dae-Ho Lee two years ago

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

it’s not like it can’t be both

severe oxide
#

I guess

sharp orbit
#

D.Mon is clearly a play on demon

#

And she and her mech seem to be demon themed

severe oxide
#

Yeah but it’s a similar play on words to dva

#

To me it suggests a connection

restive flower
#

It's scary how much Korean engineering >>>>>>> German engineering and Swedish engineering

severe oxide
#

Idk they hold their own

#

Tbh where even is the German engineering

restive flower
#

Defense Matrix is even more overpowered in the canon, and the mechas are built to take on Kaiju-omnics.

#

Crusaders

severe oxide
#

Rein’s armor is mostly lindholm tech by now

sharp orbit
#

Torb probably just reverse engineered Rein's original suit

severe oxide
#

Korean engineering can’t even withstand a single blow from an omnivore without starting to fall to pieces

sharp orbit
#

And made the current armour

severe oxide
#

Omnic

errant elm
#

@severe oxide They are most likely friends who became rivals after naming themselves similar

severe oxide
#

You’re just making headcanons now

limpid agate
#

@rain arrow The short looked nice and had some cool details and developed her personality to show her semi-serious side, but... It didnt accomplish much after that. The dialogue felt like it was mostly forced exposition, the kaiju was just put into a flashback still as defeated. Other than the Origin Story stills, the rest of her crew is never even seen, let alone their mechs or them actually fighting in them. DVa is still detatched from the rest of the cast, and even the plot that happened was just DVa being the best at everything and not needing anyone else, even if the point of the short was the exact opposite. She didnt develop as a character over it, and the asking for help thing felt forced, especially as she still did most of the job herself afterwards.

#

Also her buddy is a mechanic, and he's shown to be relaxing and eating while DVa does all the mechanic stuff.

#

I thought that was silly and just pushing her more into "best at everything" territory

errant elm
#

He was working on his own project

#

And it’s just an introduction

sharp orbit
#

I really need to see the rest of the mechs in action, especially Beast and Casino's mech with its possible transformation gimmick

limpid agate
#

What own project?

severe oxide
#

So now we know one of the ults in the game, rather than being based on a canon ability, it’s just based on a single traumatic even in the hero’s life

errant elm
#

At the end we saw him working on smth

limpid agate
#

Do you mean at the end, where he is finally helping DVa with her mech's legs?

severe oxide
#

It’s as if Genji had an ult based on him dying

limpid agate
severe oxide
#

Mercy has an ult where her parents die

errant elm
#

Is that Dva’s legs?

limpid agate
#

Yes

errant elm
#

They look like hoofs

limpid agate
errant elm
#

Didn’t know Dva had hoofs

sharp orbit
#

Man

rain arrow
#

@limpid agate thanks for the explanation

sharp orbit
#

What's with them making another Tokki like by themselves

#

Where's the support from other MEKA maintenance crew

#

It's like they've been left on their own

errant elm
#

Maybe they want to do it alone

limpid agate
#

Dae-Hyun is Tokki's maintenance crew

severe oxide
#

Do we have any details placing this short temporally?

limpid agate
#

Nope

sand kraken
#

Are there normal people here

severe oxide
#

Not even in the news reports?

errant elm
#

Like timeline?

sand kraken
#

Others are scaring me

limpid agate
#

This is the first mention of DVa outside the "Overwatch is Back" article

errant elm
#

Sure come and join a Dva discussion

limpid agate
#

And DVa was famous for a while already

sand kraken
#

Yay!

sharp orbit
#

I dunno I was going on and on about the mechs like a madman

sand kraken
#

The general chat is kinda weird

#

So Ima just stay here

sharp orbit
#

For hours

#

Dunno if you can call that normal

limpid agate
#

DVa was famous long before this short

#

So

errant elm
#

There’s no reason to not assume it’s present

limpid agate
#

It can be any time

sand kraken
#

Still discussing the D.va lore?

severe oxide
#

There’s no like “mondatta shot last month in London “ written somewhere or something

#

I mean what else is there to discuss

sand kraken
#

Lmao

severe oxide
#

We have like 1 lore drop a year

#

Can we at least spend one day discussing it

limpid agate
#

November is the next thing

sand kraken
#

Mhm

errant elm
#

But unless found proof saying smth else I’ll say it’s present

limpid agate
#

So until then

#

Its mostly gonna be this

rain arrow
#

@sand kraken jewvia is here so things are more....civil

dusty rapids
sand kraken
#

Who is here?

severe oxide
#

Scary mod

rain arrow
#

@sand kraken jewvia the mod

sand kraken
#

Dunno her or him

errant elm
#

Senjewvia

sand kraken
#

OhH

#

THE ONE WHO TYPED EARLIR

severe oxide
#

Wait until Jewvia leaves, then it’s me posting funny screen grabs from poorly drawn panels from the overwatch comics

sand kraken
#

Oops sorry lmao

errant elm
#

Yeah the one in orange

severe oxide
#

The whole of the Reflections comic is like a huge visual shitpost

rain arrow
#

Jewvias views kinda line up with mine but I won't say more

sand kraken
#

Ah I see

errant elm
#

Are you the same person?!

sand kraken
#

What?

errant elm
#

His views line up with Jewvia’s

iron plume
#

No, Jewvia can actually argue points

errant elm
#

Oof

#

Shotsfired

rain arrow
#

Uh huh.. whatever you want to say

errant elm
#

Nai used walk it off

#

It’s super effective

rain arrow
#

Whatever the case, more information coming so that's exciting

sharp orbit
#

Bionade?

errant elm
#

Bionade?

sand kraken
#

Yeah I'm already excited

sharp orbit
#

Ana's grenade

errant elm
#

Yeah

sharp orbit
#

She says walk it off

errant elm
#

Ahhh

#

Sorry I didn’t get it

sand kraken
#

I honestly can't wait to learn more about D.va

iron plume
#

that has nothing to do with the nade

sharp orbit
#

Np

iron plume
#

she says it any time she heals

sharp orbit
#

Ah

#

Well I'm no Ana player

errant elm
#

But is hero 29 really going to be junkerqueen?

sharp orbit
#

No

#

D.Mon

errant elm
#

We already have a new mech hero and a mech related short

#

I will be very surprised if we saw another Meka before atleast a year

sharp orbit
#

I'd say next year sometime

#

But no later than that

steel current
#

Or ever really

errant elm
#

Next year maybe in 2 years

sharp orbit
#

Either way is possible

cedar moon
#

This time they can gain a mech for an ult for a few seconds

steel current
#

Maybe after some lore dropped on her or d.va

sharp orbit
#

But I can see D.Mon being in

cedar moon
#

To keep the variety up

limpid agate
#

Id rather get Overlord

steel current
#

He does have a cool name

errant elm
#

Depends on if Dmon uses her shields as weapons

sand kraken
#

^^^^

sharp orbit
#

I think she'll have a giant beam sword

errant elm
#

Nah

#

To much like Brigitte if so

sharp orbit
#

Change the behavior

#

She can't spam it like Brigitte

#

It's one swing at a time

#

At higher damage

errant elm
#

If Dmon has shields as weapons it would be like a barrier in the middle of Rein’s and Brigitte’s

sharp orbit
#

D.Mon and La Princesse for me

errant elm
#

No but like the secondary shield would be to similar

sharp orbit
#

Those are the ones I want the most

#

Especially since La Princesse seems to be able to transform

#

Probably to a race car like mode

#

For super speed

errant elm
#

I’m not really feeling La Princesse

limpid agate
sharp orbit
#

I like speedsters so I want it

errant elm
#

Would be hard to implement it in the game

sharp orbit
#

Yeah it might be too fast to control

#

But they can slow it down in the game

limpid agate
sharp orbit
#

Possible

limpid agate
sand kraken
#

Aww!!

untold cradle
#

i wanna dig into busan so badly

sand kraken
#

Pachimariii

untold cradle
#

but that'll have to wait

errant elm
#

Maybe the yet is the green’s game

#

Pachimari’s so cuute!!

sand kraken
#

Ikr!!

errant elm
#

Blizzard should make little pachimari arcade games

#

Like a 2d platformer, a candy crush etc

rain arrow
#

@untold cradle apparently there are a lot of little Easter eggs on the map

limpid agate
steel current
#

Like most maps

untold cradle
#

interesting

limpid agate
#

Obligatory starcraft reference

#

Some tech company with Omnic Lucio as its mascot

#

Drone security, I assume similar to Hyde before they went boom

steel current
#

Hyde?

limpid agate
#

Hyde Global, the company that Junkrat and Roadhog blew up in their comic

steel current
#

Oooohh

errant elm
#

Wait boys

#

Isn’t showing the meka’s a bit like Doomfist’s gauntlet

#

Blizzard shows it, people want it, Blizzard gives it

steel current
#

That is why briggitte exists

#

If they spam enough, they'll get it

errant elm
#

So a high chance for a new meka

limpid agate
#

Not high

#

But a chance exists

errant elm
#

So what npc’s do we know of that could be a hero?

#

I’d say 60% chance

steel current
#

The Queen

errant elm
#

There’s this Liao guy right?

rain arrow
#

Probably not the next hero but maybe in the future

errant elm
#

Yeah def not the next hero

steel current
#

Maximillien, Liao maybe

errant elm
#

Who’s liao?

#

Maximillien is?

steel current
#

An Overwatch founder

errant elm
#

And that’s all what we know?

steel current
#

That is all the lore we got from him I think

errant elm
#

And maximillien is?

steel current
#

A Talon omnic chairman

#

Looks pretty cool

errant elm
#

Oh yeah that boy

#

Wasn’t there some “leak” of a rts hero and people thought he could be it?

steel current
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Rts hero?

errant elm
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Some vague leak about 3 heroes. The first I don’t remember, second had like electric walls or smth and the third controlled other units

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But that was some time ago

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Before Moira even

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Maximillien doesn’t look like the fighter type

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True

errant elm
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So Liao?

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So the Queen?

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Liao is a nothing right now

errant elm
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Lol

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he could be brought back but I’d expect some more fanfare beforehand if they do

errant elm
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We atleast know he exists

iron plume
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not really

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certainly not that he’s alive

steel current
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Yeah, it could even get revised and say he didn't ever exist

errant elm
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And the queen would be odd with all the mech stuff recently

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aside from Queen, there’s Sanjay, Hamid, Lynx and Maxi

steel current
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Yeah but Moira was a thing

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Who are Sanjay, Hamid and Lynx?

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Sanjay is the vishkar manager who’s on talon council

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Hamid is an Oasis archaeologist mentioned on Petra

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Lynx is the omnic Zarya worked with in Searching

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they’re all pretty stretchy leads

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Hamid sounds like something that could work