Like a little glimps of a garage with all the mechs in it
#lore-discussion
errant elm
Like someone who’s diving underwater looking for the giant omnic to try to kill him and Dva saves him?
twin pollen
An underwater map would be awesome
errant elm
I hope we get an hero, but I feel like the possibilities of a map are greater
Not huge thoigh
twin pollen
Maybe a secret talon base or omnics base underwater
errant elm
I actually don’t want talon and Dva to get involved with each other
errant elm
Yeah I know but I can still hope
limpid agate
Dont bother
twin pollen
When is blizzcon?
limpid agate
November
errant elm
We could get a hint though
limpid agate
We already did, its most likely Junkerqueen
twin pollen
😱
errant elm
Still wasn’t Hammond hinted before Orisa?
limpid agate
No
twin pollen
What would junkerqueen do?
errant elm
Hammond was hinted a long time ago I though I saw Stylosa make a vid about it
With chimpanzees etc
twin pollen
I mean like would she be a tank or support or dps?
errant elm
Dps I think
limpid agate
The queen is a former mech champion
Hammond was first hinted in June, before Doomfist but after Orisa
twin pollen
Hmmm
errant elm
Yes so still a long time ago
Same as Doomfist
I’d say if they show different Mechs I’m 60% sure we’ll get another hero sometime
twin pollen
What time tomorrow will the short be revealed? And will it be posted on this discord?
limpid agate
12 hours from now
twin pollen
Okay
limpid agate
@errant elm The reason I said the QUeen is because of how they tease heroes
They usually tease a hero in the months leading up to their reveal
errant elm
Usually
limpid agate
They may introduce them a full year eaerlier
But the teaser trail is always present within about 4 months of their debut
errant elm
Yeah so the garage idea is still on the table
limpid agate
Too subtle
twin pollen
Perhaps we’ll see some mech that the Queen used to be a champion
limpid agate
The only time they teased a hero with a cinematic short was Brigitte
And she was physically there
ANd prominent
errant elm
Still you can’t exclude the idea of a garage filled with different mechs
limpid agate
Obviously not, Im expecting different mechs
But thats not necessarily a hero teaser. We need to see the short first
They could tease hero 29 there
errant elm
I mean it more like Doomfist’s gauntlet
errant elm
We know it’s there, we want it, and we’ll get it someday
I mean F1 fighter hero, some street fighter hero, insert games here
limpid agate
... What?
errant elm
Different Mechs right?
Maybe they could be designed around different games
So one who’s like a car/transformer maybe or one who’s just a suit and is a street fighter
raven swan
That'd be fun.
limpid agate
I dont think that would work as well as you think it would
Being able to wakeup DP doesnt translate well to fighting kaijus
errant elm
Well maybe like a transformer
Could transform to a car (a dash on the ground that knocks enemies up), a plane (ultimate: can fly anywhere and has miniguns), a boat (not in-game) and a motorcycle (be used for mobility, like a soldier sprint but with enhanced jumping)
And his standard weapon is some kind of heavy blaster: long charge, medium-long range, heavy damage
To me that could work both in-game and lore-wise
raven swan
Interesting but that might be tough to balance.
Also Bastion is essentially a transformer.
errant elm
Yeah Bastion is also a transformer, but it’s different though
How do they struggle with Dva?
This hero is just: an hero, a dash (becomes a car animation), a sprint (becomes a scooter), an ult with infinite flying and miniguns (maybe a bit harder this, but possible)
peak escarp
She's technically 2 characters - pilot form spawns when meka form is destroyed
errant elm
Yes, but how do they struggle with her?
peak escarp
Sometimes pilot DVa will spawn way outside the world boundary or stuck inside things
From a programming standpoint, it's complicated
errant elm
That are just glitches I don’t see it as smth that would hold them back from making an hero
peak escarp
And several devs have said they regret adding it
peak escarp
Your idea would be handicapped by animations to switch between modes, during which they would be vulnerable (like Sombra's animation going into stealth)
errant elm
I see it as minor issues, if transformer games can do it, than blizzard can do it too
peak escarp
I think the other MEKA units will be more or less the same as DVa
valid shell
I hope not.
errant elm
I think it’s a 50/50 chance, but I hope they are different
errant elm
I can’t see them expanding on Dva anyway if the meka’s are the same
valid shell
I would love to see a speedster MEKA on roller blades, or an airborne orbital frame.
errant elm
No please not
valid shell
Dedicated melee MEKAs and artillery.
errant elm
I feel like Korea could have his own seperate lore for now
Maybe later on, but there are possibilities in Korea and I want Blizzard to explore them
limpid agate
I think most people would disagree
They want DVa to be relevant
Not just irellevant with more lore
Like the Junkers
errant elm
I’m sure
limpid agate
Junkers have lots of lore
Theyre also unrelated to everyone
And are not important at all
errant elm
They could fix that with junkerqueen though
limpid agate
Same with Bastion before Binary
Last Bastion was nice
But
He was still where he was before
Neutral and useless
Now he's with Torbjorn
errant elm
I just don’t want everyone who’s alone to just join Overwatch
Dva has this whole fight the big omnic thing with other Meka’s going on
Maybe later on we could see OW help her fight the omnic
But after we’ve seen the other Meka’s and Korea
I mean who’s officially in OW right now?
peak escarp
Winston, Tracer, Mei, Reinhardt
With Brigitte, Torbjorn and Bastion as strong maybes
And maybe Genji
errant elm
Right, so maybe get the old OW back together instead of gettinf Dva away from other possibities
Like get Soldier, Pharah and Ana and then move to Dva idk
Or atleast Phrah
peak escarp
Soldier and Ana aren't going back - they're content to stay dead for now
Pharah was never in Overwatch
peak escarp
If DVa doesn't interact with Overwatch or Talon in some way, she's going to stay irrelevant
limpid agate
Youre contradicting yourself
Right, so maybe get the old OW back together instead of gettinf Dva away from other possibities
Pharah
errant elm
I’d rather have Pharah than Dva
Pharah has connections with Ana etc
Idk bout Dva
And what’s Mercy doing?
limpid agate
Exactly
DVa is related to literally no one
She is the most detatched hero in the game
She isnt even related to any NPCs
She has no one
errant elm
Yes so why not reveal her Meka team?
limpid agate
You do that
She has NPCs
But is still detatched from everyone else
And is still the worst off
errant elm
Give her this to give her her Meka team
And then next time get her to OW
To like not fully exclude Korea from the lore
limpid agate
Next time
You do realize how often they release lore
The last time the story moved forwards was July
2017
errant elm
Yes well maybe the should do it more often
If they fk want to keep this game alive for a long time
Like finish the backstory and then just move in a straight line
And only OW backstory
No Mercy backstory talon backstory etc
errant elm
Yeah but not what she has been doing after OW broke up
I’m sorry I am not English I am not good in wording myself
limpid agate
We dont need more backstory shorts
We have an entire event dedicated to Overwatch backstory
Overwatch archives
errant elm
Well than they can just give us new story
And like more than ones a year
So we don’t have everyone joining OW and have stories develop at other areas
And get a Dutch hero
limpid agate
We dont even have a Dutch character
valid shell
@burnt bane Source?
slow talon
Anyone know the time for the cinematic?
dire timber
@errant elm please read up on the lore
cause you really have a lot to catch up on
and before that, there's little ground to speculate on what's coming next
@limpid agate so, you expect the Queen to be hero 29?
and then 30 will be released in March, like Brigitte?
limpid agate
Yes
valid shell
29 will be a human male.
burnt bane
@valid shell I know a guy 👀
valid shell
Whom?
limpid agate
@burnt bane Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
remote wagon
I play creative destruction
slow talon
Darn.
untold cradle
@slow talon if you look on the twitter post for the cinematic, it says august 22 at 3 am PST
slow talon
PST?
valid shell
PST.
peak escarp
PST is West coast America/Canada
UTC -7
Right now Junker Queen looks like the most obvious for hero 29
Unless someone else suddenly gets the spotlight in the next 3 months
peak escarp
Like 3 Americans?
frosty shell
But America's a big country
valid shell
And Blizzard is American.
peak escarp
And Australia isn't?
valid shell
I don't agree with the three yankees, but I didn't not expect it.
peak escarp
Australia is fairly large
frosty shell
Australia has only 24.13 million people
valid shell
I approve.
frosty shell
And the 3 American characters are all very different aesthetics-wise
valid shell
Sanjay and Liao.
frosty shell
I'd be fine with Sanjay and Liao
valid shell
(I fucking hate the idea of Liao.)
frosty shell
If we got the Queen we'd get 3 Junkers
valid shell
3 Americans at launch is in the same vein as 75% of the launch roster being male.
It doesn't make it right, and Blizzard has been trying to fix it.
peak escarp
I want Liao more than any other hero we have a name for
valid shell
Why?
What about his design and background strikes you?
What's so interesting about his armaments and skillset?
peak escarp
Because if we get Liao, we learn about her part in the founding of Overwatch, and where she's been this whole time
I don't care how she plays
valid shell
I'd rather have Liao confirmed to have been junked along with First Strike.
Since that's obv what happened.
frosty shell
I wouldn't like Liao to have been totally retconned because that means they could retcon anything
Most of what's been changed is just unclear information
valid shell
I'm just tired of the youtube screamlords slapping "LIAO CONFIRMED???? ??" on every thumbnail.
peak escarp
They haven't done that since 2016
frosty shell
The game's only 3 years old and doesn't have much lore; I wouldn't want to lose the lore we have
valid shell
If Liao exists, I'd like them to be purely bureaucratic. The UN handler during OW's origins.
frosty shell
I doubt Liao's going to be a new hero even if she's still canon
Adawe was the UN handler
frosty shell
And I'm pretty sure Liao was on the strike team
peak escarp
I'd like to learn more about Adawe too
valid shell
Founder doesn't necessarily mean a combatant.
frosty shell
I'd like her to be a tactical/robotics person
Which it seems like she might've been in First Strike
valid shell
If that is Liao.
frosty shell
I'm pretty sure that is Liao
valid shell
Likely, but unconfirmed.
frosty shell
The problem with having Liao being a playable character is that if she was still alive, you'd expect her to have been mentioned
valid shell
Yup.
frosty shell
And the other problem with the Queen is that she wouldn't really give us anything new at all
frosty shell
The only reason why people think she'll be the next hero is that she's one of the few side characters with a clear abilities set (givven that she was a mech fighter)
valid shell
And that her design has noticeably dissipated into simple shapes and bold colors since her initial art, signaling her demotion to an NPC.
frosty shell
And that she's connected to Wrecking Ball
frosty shell
Hammond isn't a full Junker
dire timber
... oh
frosty shell
But we got Orisa, then Doomfist
dire timber
I mean, on the flipside, Doomfist was released right after-- yeah, right after Orisa.
frosty shell
Two closely connected characters in a row isn't impossible
valid shell
Orisa and Doomfist are distinct characters, and we hadn't had an African hero before them.
frosty shell
But I wouldn't want it
dire timber
I mean, the Queen and Hammond are also quite distinct
valid shell
Queen would be our 3rd Australian, from the same society, from the same location, with the same career as the hero before her.
frosty shell
They could easily pull a Moira on us
worthy rose
next hero should be Russian
dire timber
I do think you make good points that make the Queen a bit less likely
valid shell
@worthy rose Why?
worthy rose
that ruski omnic
dire timber
but still doesn't rule her out
frosty shell
Also, Brigitte turned out much better than I ever would've thought
valid shell
Which Russian Omnic?
worthy rose
one with zarya
valid shell
They're not Russian.
worthy rose
it's not ruski?
valid shell
They're not Russian.
dire timber
Lynx is from Numbani
frosty shell
What does Lynx's voice sound like, I wonder?
valid shell
Androgynous.
frosty shell
Is it genderless?
dire timber
@worthy rose no shitposting please
frosty shell
@valid shell Yes, probably so
valid shell
Lynx is unlikely for the same reason as Queen, because they would be too similar to Sombra.
worthy rose
how's that shitpostong, thats how I imagine its voice
valid shell
An objectively inferior hacker.
frosty shell
I also want more non-European characters
dire timber
anyhow, when you said "that Russian omnic", I thought about the one that traded with Volskaya
... that was kind of a dead end
worthy rose
we dont have enough Europeans to be fair
valid shell
?
dire timber
we, uh, do
dire timber
also do
valid shell
Tracer, Widowmaker, Reinhardt, Brigitte, Mercy, Torbjorn, Moira...
dire timber
... European omnics, I've gotta concede
valid shell
I know I'm missing some.
worthy rose
thats two guys
valid shell
Why?
worthy rose
bbecause why not
dire timber
I'd prefer getting a black female hero first tbqh
valid shell
Because other regions need heroes too?
worthy rose
kek
valid shell
Who made a joke.
frosty shell
I think the main reason there haven't been that many characters from certain regions is that we in the West don't know the difference between certain countries
worthy rose
then add hero from Caucasus, thats region wiþout one
frosty shell
So they wouldn't "feel" like their country
valid shell
@frosty shell That's not a valid reason.
OW is played worldwide and Blizzard has a diverse staff and contacts.
dire timber
as for male characters, I think we might be getting a middle eastern archelogist soonish
worthy rose
I'd have added Georgian hero and made a running Atlanta joke
tepid abyss
Few know Moira is irish
frosty shell
Yes, but she has many Irish motifs
dire timber
also, someone mentioned a Greek hero
valid shell
I wish she was more fey-inspired, but that's just me.
tepid abyss
And that makes it more surprising people don't know lmao
valid shell
And we've needed a Greek hero since Ilios on launch.
worthy rose
Spartan hero
dire timber
@worthy rose no shitposting
valid shell
Eh, that archtype died when Brigitte was released.
worthy rose
Leon Idas
olive current
I'm Irish
valid shell
Not gonna happen.
worthy rose
how's it shitposting
valid shell
Brag about it.
worthy rose
ffs
olive current
Moira doesn't feel too Irish to me
frosty shell
Overwatch doesn't have an Arabic dub or a dub in any other Middle Eastern languages AFAIK
olive current
But the Irish voice lines arexso good
worthy rose
Sparta is a city
valid shell
Her VA is Irish. Just because her accent isn't as thick as buttermilk.
frosty shell
But even then they might want to avoid Israel and its surrounding controversy
tepid abyss
Hell, I'm Irish yet she doesn't give that vibe
olive current
Actually the voice actor is solid
olive current
It's the theming and her Naruto run and stuff that throw it off
frosty shell
I doubt most Americans couldn't tell if a character was supposed to be Kenyan or Nigerian
dire timber
I was already surprised they included Israeli flag
worthy rose
considering how known and spread out in world Israeli people are
frosty shell
The biggest controversy would be Taiwan
tepid abyss
Loads think doom is just 'african'
worthy rose
Crimean map would be bigger
valid shell
Moira also works abroad, first in Switzerland/Rome, and later in Iraq.
frosty shell
Given that both Mainland China and Taiwan play Overwatch
valid shell
So her accent likely faded.
dire timber
whispers Barcelona map with the Spanish flag
olive current
the accent is not the issue LMAO
valid shell
What's the issue?
worthy rose
Adding countries with limited recogniton is problematic
frosty shell
Barcelona probably woudn't be a big deal
worthy rose
so I doubt we'd see Taiwan, Israel or Armenia
worthy rose
China
frosty shell
Even Armenia would likely be fine as a country
valid shell
Israel as well.
frosty shell
If Taiwan was mentioned , it'd likely be just the city of Taipei
worthy rose
no one hates them
frosty shell
or something like that
tepid abyss
We already have most of the biggest general places
valid shell
Have we?
valid shell
We have one (1) South American.
frosty shell
We don't have Indonesia
worthy rose
Caucasus and Eastern Europe thats not Russia is big, we dont have them.
dire timber
🇮🇳 🇮🇶
tepid abyss
Could use a Indian mb
worthy rose
Only one from SA
tepid abyss
But most think symmetra is
worthy rose
no Italian hero either
tepid abyss
Ofc she is
valid shell
Unless you mean Native American.
tepid abyss
But what I mean is she is just generic anywhere in india
valid shell
Don't get me started on Canada.
frosty shell
Pharah apparently has First Nations ancestry
dire timber
Pharah is half Canadian
worthy rose
they should've made Soldier canadian
tepid abyss
What's Winston? American ? Space made?
valid shell
Oh boy, I get a half a hero.
dire timber
her dad is a native
valid shell
Gee, thanks.
frosty shell
Symmetra is supposed to be from Hyderabad
valid shell
Enjoy your three army boys, Yanks.
dire timber
@valid shell you also get a flag
valid shell
Oh boy.
worthy rose
Pharah doesnt count she was raised in Egypt and served there
valid shell
What a privilege.
dire timber
well
worthy rose
she's Egyptian by all means
dire timber
Iraq and India didn't get that
worthy rose
just like how Reaper is not Spanish
dire timber
well, he's a Latino
worthy rose
just becausw od his surname
dire timber
but yea, he's American
worthy rose
he's American
worthy rose
Winston is British in my headcanon
valid shell
?
dire timber
you mean, Harold Winston?
valid shell
He's a gorilla, dawg.
worthy rose
ye, not that monkey, I mean his dad scientist
valid shell
His accent is pretty explicitly Americano.
Blizz probably pulled him from programming.
worthy rose
dead
worthy rose
kek
valid shell
frosty shell
Symm speaks Hindi, which isn't all that common in Hyderabad
valid shell
RIP Canadian Mei.
worthy rose
If Mei was Canadian it'd have made sense
valid shell
"lol bcuz she says sorry XD"
frosty shell
However, it's not impossible Symm could've learned it later
worthy rose
lots of Chinese live there plus she apologizes
Liao as Chinese native instead
win win
but its too late
plus Mei uses ice
damn
what a miss
frosty shell
I wonder which hero has the least popularity in their origin country
frosty shell
But Liao isn't a Thai name
valid shell
@frosty shell Russia doesn't care for Zarya.
frosty shell
why not?
worthy rose
better, Hong Kong Liao
valid shell
Her accent is off and the 'strong bear-wrestling Russian woman' meme isn't as prevalent there.
frosty shell
Yeah
valid shell
It's mostly an American stereotype.
frosty shell
her voice actor is Ukranian
valid shell
Surprise surprise, a homophobic country like Russia also likes their women demure and subservient.
worthy rose
she has no Russian accent
valid shell
Who'da thunk.
frosty shell
I assume her Russian VA is different though
worthy rose
Binge get lost
stop insulting my country
we dont hate strong women
look at WW2 snipers
and soldiers
valid shell
If I can look at them, they're pretty poor snipers.
worthy rose
off topic
valid shell
On-topic: Do you know Tracer has a girlfriend?
Or is that censored in your version. :v
worthy rose
gé lost
frosty shell
I assume people can still find out Tracer has a GF in Russia
worthy rose
no, I teabag her players everytime knowing it 😉
valid shell
At risk of public execution, probably.
frosty shell
It's just that the comic can't be printed due to age restrictions
frosty shell
A lot of the characters don't have particularly accurate accents
worthy rose
we ban shit from being publicly demonstrated and marketized, not completely
frosty shell
Torb's especially
worthy rose
I like Torb
frosty shell
And Pharah's
frosty shell
I like it too
dire timber
on a loosely related note, I think Russia's homophobia pretty much rules out Zarya being bi or gay
worthy rose
I am Russian but I can take good American accent
dire timber
she could, however, be asexual
worthy rose
Torb can have English accent
Torb is also smart
and worked for OW
most likely spoke English for decades
and thought in English
so it makes sense
frosty shell
I think a lot of British people are annoyed by the fact that Tracer's accent doesn't sound like any real British accent
worthy rose
I dont like Zarya's forced accent because she sounds like "tries to sound Russian". They should've either hired Ruski VA or dropped it and gave her normal English accent
dire timber
it still sounds very British
frosty shell
I had a theory to explain it, but I could see why people wouldn't like it
Her VA is British
But the accent doesn't match any particular sub-grouping
valid shell
Tracer's accent is the stereotypical turn-of-the-century chimney sweeper cockney, a dialect that doesn't exist anymore.
worthy rose
and yes, Zarya has to be straight or ace, or else I'd get behind my gov banning this game completely
frosty shell
It has some cockney-esque elements
valid shell
@worthy rose W e w.
Is there an 'apple doesn't fall far from the tree' metaphor for countries and citizens?
worthy rose
can be said same for entire west
so on topic, I think most likely, next hero will be animal again
valid shell
Why?
worthy rose
because last one was
worthy rose
¯_(ツ)_/¯
valid shell
Good talk.
valid shell
He's from Monaco.
worthy rose
huh small country getting a hero smh
sounds better
but it never happens
all heroes are from big countries, or moon
Zen is from Nepal, sure
valid shell
Japan is small and has two heroes.
worthy rose
"small"
valid shell
Then you'll have to specify if you mean landmass or population.
worthy rose
100+ million people sint small
also Japan is pretty big
compared to many countries by landmass
377k km2 is huge
valid shell
Then if we're talking landmass, where's Canada.
worthy rose
we talk both
also, most heroes being from big countries doesnt mean all big countries have heroes
valid shell
Anyways.
worthy rose
in big, we mean population including overseas, land and cultural impact
valid shell
Caribbean could use a hero, SA could use another hero, SE Asia could use a hero, Middle East could use a hero.
worthy rose
for example Ireland is small yet has like 40 million people in world
valid shell
Eastern Europe could use a hero.
valid shell
Yes, but we're talking on the world's stage, not subjective opinions.
dire timber
I do want that "modern day pirate from Haiti" concept of mine to become a thing
valid shell
If we were being selfish, I'd be screeching about a Canadian hero.
More than usual, I mean.
But flag-waving isn't what this channel is for.
worthy rose
heh
valid shell
Hell, hero country speculation is already borderline fanfiction OC-Do-Not-Steal creation.
worthy rose
every opinion is subjective
valid shell
Then let's have less opinions pls.
worthy rose
so lets be robots
peak escarp
I wonder which map the new short will be set on
haughty thorn
Hopefully training range 
peak escarp
Because the last two August shorts didn't take place on the map released in August
And so far, only The Last Bastion wasn't set on a playable map
valid shell
@haughty thorn No shitposting pls.
peak escarp
So far we've had (map/main hero):
Watchpoint: Gibraltar/Winston
King's Row/Tracer
Hanamura/Hanzo
Dorado/Soldier:76
Volskaya Industries/Sombra
Ecopoint: Antarctica/Mei
Eichenwalde/Reinhardt
haughty thorn
"Shitposting will result in a loss of access" i know
brisk harbor
It'd be nice if we got a Korean map
valid shell
We just did.
brisk harbor
Well in regular modes
peak escarp
It is a possibility
It would make sense to reveal a Korean map at a Korean event
I hope it's a multi-hero story
Because those always move the story forward
valid shell
D.Va at Lucio's concert in Korea when Symmetra and some Vishkar goons raid it.
Featuring Sanjay in a talking role in the stinger, hinting at him as a hero like Brigitte in H&G.
peak escarp
That would work
valid shell
Two untouched and one barely seen hero all cohesively in the same cinematic.
limpid agate
Im pretty sure that was a shitpost.
peak escarp
What was?
peak escarp
I have seen it suggested before
brazen flare
valid shell
Gameplay role discussion doesn't belong here.
hasty surge
According to the announcement it seems to be about ana
peak escarp
they used Ana in the announcement because the text was about staying awake and not falling asleep
it's not a hint
restive flower
Will the cinematic be uploaded on YouTube at 3 PST? Or is it just shown at gamescom at that time?
fossil sequoia
i think soldier 76 and mcree are american
limpid agate
@fossil sequoia If youre seriously confused, Soldier 76, McCree, and Reaper are all American.
fossil sequoia
oh
worthy rose
@worthy rose Dolya Gavanski doesn't sound like a Russian VA?
peak escarp
it's like how Lucie Pohl speaks German-German, instead of Swiss-German like Mercy should
worthy rose
Well, skimming from a certain channel's videos, the VA in the Russian version definitely sounds different
iron plume
she doesn't voice the russian version
peak escarp
she sounds fine to everyone else, but to native speakers it sounds off
iron plume
and her russian is pretty bad
peak escarp
you could also include the English-speaking heroes 😛
worthy rose
yeah, those two VAs are perfect matches
peak escarp
Mei's VA also does Chinese Symmetra
worthy rose
also, the Ana VA is a perfect match too
peak escarp
Ayesha Selim ❤
dire timber
stream on
at this point, can it even be anything but a D.va cinematic
Jeff in Meka shirt at the Korean event
"no better place to announce these things than in Korea"
errant elm
Just give us the damn thing
jaunty fox
Safe to assume it's a Dva short.
dire timber
a temple, a MEKA base, and a city
cunning ledge
that looks fucking amazing
limpid agate
IM gonna like exploring it
peak escarp
there's going to be a lot of important details on this map
cunning ledge
beautiful looking map
jaunty fox
Dva lore.
limpid agate
Colour coded mekas
cunning ledge
yo i fuckin predicted the different coloured MEKAs with different weapon loadouts and sizes
limpid agate
cunning ledge
"but I can imagine 4 differently coloured mekas that look vaguely the same but one has a giant top mounted rocket launcher, one has longer range basic weapons, etc"
me, like three months ago
cunning ledge
ptr downloading now
cunning ledge
!!!
jaunty fox
Dva short here we go!!
limpid agate
Thats it
limpid agate
Thats disappointing
iron plume
dva nuke origin story
dire timber
and it was great!
iron plume
officially canon
dire timber
I knew they'd work self-destruct into this
iron plume
put it on the list
dire timber
and, you know
cunning ledge
micro missiles canon too
dire timber
I think they did great
why are you, like, jumping to whining
this fleshes out D.va so much
peak escarp
so much characterization
cunning ledge
feels good to add things to the canon dva abilities list
cunning ledge
so we only heard two of the meka pilots
tidal anchor
It's a fully Dva short?
tidal anchor
A bit disappointed it wasn't a Zen or lucio short, but I'll take it.
cunning ledge
contextually to the event it was obviously d.va
but yeah, those are the others who need lore now
cunning ledge
she is officially not at the bottom of the list any more
jaunty fox
She got a map and lore.
tidal anchor
She's also OW most popular character, I think.
cunning ledge
also the short wasn't even in the map lol
jaunty fox
Doesn't have to be.
dire timber
MEKA base
tidal anchor
Zen has a map, but basically nothing else.
jaunty fox
Map will have Dva lore too.
tidal anchor
Lucio doesn't have a map, does he?
tidal anchor
Doesn't exactly count.
dire timber
yep
tidal anchor
If they do something about a character who already has lore next I'll be mad.
dire timber
I think Pharah, Zen, Lucio, or Symmetra next
hopefully Symmetra and Lucio share a short
tidal anchor
Pharah has a bit more than the others.
tidal anchor
Yeah, that would make things interesting.
limpid agate
But the short itself... I didnt really like it
dire timber
Kinshin? is that how they're called?
tidal anchor
I've yet to watch it.
limpid agate
It felt rushed and scattered, and most of the dialog felt like forced exposition.
peak escarp
now we have a better name than Kaiju
limpid agate
From her mechanic buddy
cunning ledge
I love how they managed to retroactively fit in foreshadowing with the bike thing
incredible
dire timber
it was pretty exciting
cunning ledge
no
because
the reactor core thing wasn't mentioned the first time
only the fact that a bike was wrecked
iron plume
so just deus ex machina
limpid agate
I like the map
We should be able to see some cool stuff there
The short gave the names, but the map has the mechs
And we saw the Kaiju in a still.
cunning ledge
any fix for the map download being stuck on "waiting" or than actually just waiting?
limpid agate
And we have that mechanic guy.
But the map should have lots of cool stuff to explore
sonic dock
i hav ebeen trolled
limpid agate
Im gonna watch it again
Like, for detail and flavour, its nice
And for expanding her character
cunning ledge
i agree
dire timber
there was also a clip
limpid agate
Casino
D.Mon
King
Overlord
limpid agate
limpid agate
I dont know which one
The mechanic guy is
She calls him... Tae Hyun?
Yeah he isnt apilot
What is his job, mechanic
dire timber
@cunning ledge similar to who?
errant elm
Some kind of mechanic programmer guy
dire timber
ah, you mean the helmet
cunning ledge
police response guy in the bottom right
i guess face visor with mouth uncovered isn't a rare design thing in sci fi
dire timber
very doubtful that there's a connection
errant elm
I’m sad to see that the mechs are a bit to alike to make them a new hero
dire timber
if anything, it's more likely that the connection is to Helix
errant elm
Yeah, but there are other heroes that could be made
dire timber
not too dissimilar, but also not identical
errant elm
We’ll probably see them sometime, but not soon
cunning ledge
errant elm
I think the red one could be a main tank
dire timber
anything else to look forward to?
dire timber
green seems to be made for speed, red for durability
cunning ledge
i love how the pilot is in the green one
with legs coming out the front
that's so funny to me for some reason
errant elm
Blue could be interesting as a support
cunning ledge
if that's the drone character
errant elm
He’s got this little drone thing
cunning ledge
i would be fine with that
dire timber
and blue does seem to be some kind of support
errant elm
Like he could controll little drones for scouting and healing
errant elm
Yellow has rockets
dire timber
blue does seem to be equipment with a beam cannon
errant elm
He’s one of her good friends (but he wants more)
dire timber
peak escarp
do you think Casino is the F1 pilot?
limpid agate
Looks like the type
dire timber
F1 pilot?
peak escarp
mech shape seems right
errant elm
I think so
limpid agate
Unless her buddy mechanic is the F1 pilot
errant elm
But he isn’t part pf the meka squad
He might be part of it but not in a mech
I think he helps with the programming and stuff
limpid agate
Actually
Look at DMon
She has a steering wheel
No nevermind
Her arms are extended, thats just her HUD
Overlord maybe is the F1 pilot then?
errant elm
Would be a bit odd to have the F1 pilot as tank
limpid agate
Casino looks like a regular jet
Rather than some kind of mech
He has one stick
Rather than the two DVa, DMon and King have
Cant see what Overlord is using
dire timber
it's probably green
errant elm
Steering wheel
limpid agate
Casino's mech is named "La Princesse"
errant elm
Overlord has steering wheel
iron plume
what's the thing with an F1 pilot
errant elm
It’s 2 handles attached to each other like a wheel
dire timber
Idk
peak escarp
F1 is racecars
errant elm
Blue I think
dire timber
was it said in the short?
peak escarp
Casino's mech is shaped like a racecar kinda
limpid agate
No
errant elm
No
limpid agate
It was said months ago
Im thinking its him
Steering wheel looking controls
Mech has no legs
errant elm
It’s either Casino or Overlord
But I think Overlord cuz it looks kinda like a steering wheel to me
Yes
dire timber
they said something about the omnium
peak escarp
those look like joystick controls
dire timber
where can I catch up?
peak escarp
like all the other mechs
errant elm
It looks more like a steering wheel
They are a bit bend I think
Like they could complete as a steering wheel
dire timber
let's stop talking about the F1 thing
errant elm
Why?
dire timber
Idk, too much talk about it
and it gets nowhere
@limpid agate you posted same thing twice
dire timber
I don't think there's any one "support", they're all heavily armed
iron plume
I don't think they're supposed to be prolonged fights
dire timber
except red, that focuses on defense
errant elm
Yeah probably not yeah
dire timber
yellow has some pretty intimidating rocket launchers
dire timber
dire timber
yep
errant elm
Which suggests dps
dire timber
I dunno
iron plume
I doubt it does
errant elm
Yellow stands more in the backline
iron plume
yeah because he's artillery
hallow sequoia
Red looks very large and forward esque denoting damage taking and primary targeting
hallow sequoia
Green looks as if Lucio got a meka
errant elm
I’d like to see red cuz of fighting with shields as weapons? And blue cuz of the drone
dire timber
green's built for speed
red's built for durability
pink's built for flexibility
yellow's built for artillery
blue's built for...
Idk what blue's for
he's got a helper drone
errant elm
Intel?
dire timber
he's probably a coordinator of sorts
errant elm
Maybe the drone scouts or scans the enemy
hallow sequoia
Longer barrel = better accuracy and firing distance so could be longer range target aquisition
errant elm
The omnic is adapting all the time so they need to know what he can do, so the drones scans him
dire timber
blue came pretty close with the beam, I think it could be used to just slice through the armor to make an opening for the others
errant elm
I think blue is intel of some sorts because of the drone
errant elm
I don’t like it either
Also if they were made as hero
I wouldn’t want a king or overlord
I think that blizzard is trying to make a love story between Dva and her friend
But since we got a map we’ll probably not get a hero
dire timber
hero's in November
errant elm
Like not for the next three atleast
errant elm
Ana-Sombra-Orisa-Doomfist-Moira-Brigitte-Hammond
dire timber
I mean, the dates
errant elm
I feel like I’m missing someone
November-March and July
3 a year
I hope they’ll crank that up to 4 a year but probably not
But anything else we can get from the short?
We got 5 different mechs, the names, programmer guy (who’s in love with Dva?), Unexpected attack, abilities are cannon
merry ether
do we know what the guy was building/fixing at the end of the short?
iron plume
they won't make heroes more frequent
waxen gust
the programmer guy likes dva?
iron plume
mechanic
waxen gust
i thought they're friends platonically
errant elm
I think so
iron plume
and the guy is clearly thirsty
waxen gust
oh god another cliche trope
errant elm
Probably building another mech or motorcycle or smth
merry ether
yeah it looks like a mech
perhaps just helping dva build a new one (e.g. she works on the body, he works on the legs)
merry ether
cos at 6:46 they look a lot like legs
merry ether
idk, it could be anything really
errant elm
They look like hoofs
Of an horse or smth
The other thing is def a weapon/arm
Why are they lying about Dva’s state though?
merry ether
but whatever he is building is mostly hidden at 7:14
perhaps to keep the public happy/in high morale or something
errant elm
Yeah
But if they kept that thing hidden what he was building
It must be important for the future
The sudden attack has to mean something though
If the omnics could attack whenever they want now, wouldn’t they need more meka’s?
And that’s what he’s building on maybe?
merry ether
well the engineer dude did say "it's too soon"
errant elm
It was short after the expected attack
merry ether
not trying to change the subject, but I feel as though this animated short showed more lore about Korea but not as much about Dva. Like now we know the MEKA "heroes" - more Korea related. Dva nuked an onmic drone thing - well whoopee
i guess one could argue that it was what she goes through whenever there's some sort of invasion
errant elm
Well there’s a love story or smth
merry ether
true
errant elm
And Dva feels like she can’t make any mistakes
Because if she makes a mistake the city would be destroyed
But yeah we haven’t seen a lot about Dva and more about the city and the Meka’s
Which would probably mean that they are not abandoning the city by making Dva join OW
merry ether
if she says that the city would be destroyed if SHE made a mistake though... Where are the other MEKA operators (if there are any)? Could they be at other cities in Korea???
There's only so much one person can do
errant elm
They were partying or smth
They just defended against the expected attack
Everyone was partying except Dva because she felt like she needed to become stronger
merry ether
ah
errant elm
She thinks she’s alone out there but she’s not
merry ether
I really need to rewatch it with no background noise
errant elm
That’s why she feels like she can’t make any mistakes because see thinks that everyone is relying on her
narrow nymph
