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dire timber Jul 30, 2018, 9:56 PM

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Sombra

limpid agate Jul 30, 2018, 9:56 PM

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Shes a member of that just as much as McCree is a member of Deadlock or Hanzo/Genji are of the Shimada Clan yakuza

dire timber Jul 30, 2018, 9:57 PM

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yea I guess

limpid agate Jul 30, 2018, 9:57 PM

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WHich is, they were in the past, but presently are not

peak escarp Jul 30, 2018, 9:58 PM

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a present Los Muertos member would be interesting

dire timber Jul 30, 2018, 9:59 PM

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so far my wishlist is just... Hamid Faisal and a modern day pirate from the Caribbean

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and maybe the Queen

worthy rose Jul 30, 2018, 10:00 PM

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is the anthology volume 1 book worth buying

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I want another omnic

cunning ledge Jul 30, 2018, 10:00 PM

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don't we all

worthy rose Jul 30, 2018, 10:00 PM

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Civillian style omnic, cause we only got 1

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And blizzard neglects him majorly

dire timber Jul 30, 2018, 10:02 PM

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I wanted a Null Sector hero

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a villain omnic, resentful towards humans, obsessed with efficiency

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but the idea is dead in the water

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been well over a year since Uprising

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and it seems Blizzard has no plans to expand on that

worthy rose Jul 30, 2018, 10:03 PM

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Thats sad, i like the idea of an extremist omnic

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I mean max is still up for grabs

dire timber Jul 30, 2018, 10:04 PM

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gimme some more robot nazis

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😞

worthy rose Jul 30, 2018, 10:04 PM

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I think its crazy that there are omnic dogs

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Or they could give us lynx sometime down the line

limpid agate Jul 30, 2018, 10:08 PM

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I wanna see Sanjay and Max.

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Gotta wait for 2019 though

dire timber Jul 30, 2018, 10:46 PM

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I... think Blizzard would probably roll with something else 😛

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but yeah, he could be a great expy of all the rogue AIs out there

cunning ledge Jul 30, 2018, 10:47 PM

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It’s a bit... on the nose?

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I’m not saying that, where did you get that from

dire timber Jul 30, 2018, 10:47 PM

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the thing is, Reaper's line is based on his ult

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and here, we... don't have an ult

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like, we didn't yet come up with what the ult would be

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hm

cunning ledge Jul 30, 2018, 10:48 PM

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We don’t even have a character yet

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???

dire timber Jul 30, 2018, 10:49 PM

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yeah, I would focus on the character/story first

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tbh

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we don't really know about any Null Sector activity, before or after Uprising

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it, uh

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really feels like they're just a single-event throwaway

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I don't get it, really

cunning ledge Jul 30, 2018, 10:50 PM

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Torbjorn didn’t know about them so they couldn’t have been a known threat

dire timber Jul 30, 2018, 10:50 PM

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he didn't?

cunning ledge Jul 30, 2018, 10:50 PM

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Extrapolating from voice lines

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“So what is this null sector anyway?”

dire timber Jul 30, 2018, 10:51 PM

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hm

cunning ledge Jul 30, 2018, 10:51 PM

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Something along those lines

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Might not be exact

dire timber Jul 30, 2018, 10:51 PM

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on the other hand, Jack, And, and Gabe seemed well-aware of the group

cunning ledge Jul 30, 2018, 10:51 PM

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Obviously its for audience exposition

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But still

dire timber Jul 30, 2018, 10:51 PM

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and were only caught off-guard by the attack

dense tulip Jul 31, 2018, 3:52 AM

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When is the pharmacy ship going to be official?

brisk harbor Jul 31, 2018, 3:53 AM

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Never

dense tulip Jul 31, 2018, 3:53 AM

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Rip

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@brisk harbor rip

peak escarp Jul 31, 2018, 3:53 AM

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they barely even know each other

dense tulip Jul 31, 2018, 3:54 AM

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Rlly?

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I guess mercy would be 10 years older than pharah right?

peak escarp Jul 31, 2018, 3:55 AM

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5 years older

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Pharah is 32, Mercy is 37

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they met once when Pharah was 12 and Mercy was 17

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📎 800px-Ana_Overwatch_photo.png

brisk harbor Jul 31, 2018, 3:56 AM

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Who are the characters on the left and right

dense tulip Jul 31, 2018, 3:56 AM

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Yea I was referring to that photo I thought mercy would be 20 that time

peak escarp Jul 31, 2018, 3:57 AM

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Chu said she was 17, visiting from college

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we don't know who the man and woman are

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they may never be important

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we only know that the man is not Liao

dense tulip Jul 31, 2018, 3:57 AM

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Utube 10 min vids fodder I guess

peak escarp Jul 31, 2018, 3:58 AM

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basically

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I'd like to know more about the woman though

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she looks interesting

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also I just realized I used the wrong picture

dense tulip Jul 31, 2018, 3:58 AM

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What was Reinhardt's and anas age at that time?

peak escarp Jul 31, 2018, 3:58 AM

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📎 ages.png

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this one is more accurate, and I added their ages

peak escarp Jul 31, 2018, 6:48 AM

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The way they used to draw Reinhardt is weird

dire timber Jul 31, 2018, 8:32 AM

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@dense tulip Genji and Mercy have way better odds

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cause like, there's at least a lore basis for the two being close

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Pharah and Mercy is just... "they both fly lol"

limpid agate Jul 31, 2018, 8:33 AM

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Pharmercy will never be cannon

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As will 99% of your ships

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Literally only Genji and Mercy has a shiptease.

dire timber Jul 31, 2018, 8:34 AM

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~~what about Fio and Tracer~~

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~~with Fio as Tracer's ex~~

limpid agate Jul 31, 2018, 8:34 AM

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The canon relationships are:
Ana and Sam (Former partners, made Pharah)
Torb and Ingrid (Married, made Brigitte)
Tracer and Emily (Girlfriends)
Widowmaker and Gerard (Name is Widowmaker, you get the picture)

weary copper Jul 31, 2018, 9:44 AM

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I have a question, its kinda wierd but..

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How are omnics made?

cunning ledge Jul 31, 2018, 9:44 AM

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They are made an an automated factory called an Omnium

weary copper Jul 31, 2018, 9:45 AM

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The thing that blew up in australia and created junkertown?

iron plume Jul 31, 2018, 9:45 AM

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the thing that ALF blew up in australia

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but yes

cunning ledge Jul 31, 2018, 9:45 AM

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Omnica, the company that invented Omnics, built a bunch of Omniums over the world

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Junkertown is one of them

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We know of.. I want to say 4 others?

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Lemme check

weary copper Jul 31, 2018, 9:47 AM

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Is there an omnium in that place that orisa was made in?

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I forgot the name of the place

cunning ledge Jul 31, 2018, 9:47 AM

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There is a Nigerian Omnium

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Also a Siberian Omnium currently waging war against Russia

weary copper Jul 31, 2018, 9:48 AM

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oh yea, russia hates omnics

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for some reason

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.>

cunning ledge Jul 31, 2018, 9:49 AM

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Personally I’d say it’s a fact that they’re currently fighting an all out war

iron plume Jul 31, 2018, 9:49 AM

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because they're under constant attack from them?

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sounds like a decent reason to me

cunning ledge Jul 31, 2018, 9:49 AM

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And, y’know, the Omnic Crisis

weary copper Jul 31, 2018, 9:49 AM

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oh

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also i have another question

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does every map in the game have some tie in with the lore?

iron plume Jul 31, 2018, 9:50 AM

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the places are all of some significance

weary copper Jul 31, 2018, 9:50 AM

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what about Ilios?

iron plume Jul 31, 2018, 9:50 AM

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but there's not like a confirmed mission

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Talon/Oasis digging up artifacts that are supposed to be important

weary copper Jul 31, 2018, 9:51 AM

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and Temple of Anubis?>

iron plume Jul 31, 2018, 9:51 AM

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it's the place from Pharah's comic

weary copper Jul 31, 2018, 9:51 AM

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oh

iron plume Jul 31, 2018, 9:51 AM

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with the rogue AI

cunning ledge Jul 31, 2018, 9:51 AM

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Pharah guards the Anubis AI

weary copper Jul 31, 2018, 9:51 AM

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o.o

patent gazelle Jul 31, 2018, 9:52 AM

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Someone noticed the guys from the recall trailer that arent in the game?

cunning ledge Jul 31, 2018, 9:52 AM

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There’s a bunch

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Some of them are known characters from Legacy

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Some are just concept art

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Some are flipped over so quickly that it’s impossible to see them

patent gazelle Jul 31, 2018, 9:53 AM

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Some of them are dead scientists from ecopoint:antarctica

dire timber Jul 31, 2018, 9:54 AM

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uh, nope

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didn't see any of that

patent gazelle Jul 31, 2018, 9:55 AM

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I have noticed it myself

dire timber Jul 31, 2018, 9:55 AM

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do you have pictures?

patent gazelle Jul 31, 2018, 9:55 AM

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Wait ill come back in a minute or two

dire timber Jul 31, 2018, 10:02 AM

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I've once had an album with all the pictures

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lost it somewhere

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but I'm sure the Ecopoint scientists aren't there

patent gazelle Jul 31, 2018, 10:07 AM

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The pictures wont sent looks like i must show you the time in the cinematic to show you

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Where i got this theory from

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The female character at 7:21 in the recall cinematic is the same as the person on the group picture thats shown at 4:40 in the rise an shine cinematic.

muted plume Jul 31, 2018, 10:18 AM

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is there any art of omniums

cunning ledge Jul 31, 2018, 10:18 AM

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Use this @patent gazelle https://imgur.com/a/YCrHz

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Recall album

patent gazelle Jul 31, 2018, 10:21 AM

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Thank you

cunning ledge Jul 31, 2018, 10:21 AM

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Post the images of the people you see talking about

hollow night Jul 31, 2018, 10:24 AM

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yeet is ded like pokeman gu

patent gazelle Jul 31, 2018, 10:24 AM

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I cant post images for some reason

cunning ledge Jul 31, 2018, 10:25 AM

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The links

hollow night Jul 31, 2018, 10:25 AM

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neither can i

cunning ledge Jul 31, 2018, 10:25 AM

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Post the links

patent gazelle Jul 31, 2018, 10:25 AM

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Ok

hollow night Jul 31, 2018, 10:25 AM

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472916737113718794

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oh ok 😦

patent gazelle Jul 31, 2018, 10:27 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/kKJlCjR_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

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Im talking about this person

cunning ledge Jul 31, 2018, 10:27 AM

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That is a lady from Legacy

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Not from an ecopoint

dire timber Jul 31, 2018, 10:36 AM

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that's Mirembe

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she appears in Legacy, like supduper said

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not the scientist

regal coyote Jul 31, 2018, 11:00 AM

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not all map is important

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the blizzyland map is mostly for sake of it, probably some lore is deliberately work in, but for the msot part it is for sake of fun

patent gazelle Jul 31, 2018, 11:15 AM

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Ok and the other persons are concept art?

regal coyote Jul 31, 2018, 11:17 AM

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well they are mooks, redshirts and dead.

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so they are made for being dead and are thus unimportant side chracters. just a bunch of dead (frozen) meatbags.

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Oh, while probably not true, supposedly the icecube in the ecopoint map is referencing to an ancient alien frozen inside

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or at least, it is reference to "the thing" movie

patent gazelle Jul 31, 2018, 11:19 AM

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Because some of them look similar to characters we have in the game.

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https://i.imgur.com/i4gzQHI.jpg this one looks like a widowmaker concept art.

regal coyote Jul 31, 2018, 11:35 AM

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on relationship, som named unplayable overwatch member have a league playing (cancer) husband. which should be dead by now

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also efi have both parents unfortunately still alive. Yes, it is likely that if they die efi can be batman

terse oak Jul 31, 2018, 1:41 PM

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This isn't the channel for your hero concepts

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That's better suited to #overwatch

warm stirrup Jul 31, 2018, 4:15 PM

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^lmao anyways I think brig and pharah defenintly have to meet. Is it me or are they super similar? Both wanting to get into action and both having a sense of duty to the team? Overwatch is dead but could it be possible those two can start a new generation of overwatch? Like a new team?

peak escarp Jul 31, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Overwatch has been restarted already

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With Winston's recall

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It's likely that when Pharah hears about It, she'll want to join

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Brigitte is assumed to be joining with Reinhardt

warm stirrup Jul 31, 2018, 4:19 PM

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Yes but I mean a newer generation of heroes

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Reins getting old

peak escarp Jul 31, 2018, 4:19 PM

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He is

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But we still have Tracer, who is young, and Mei, who is in her prime

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And Winston himself isn't that old

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Brigitte would be the first "new generation" member

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And Bastion, if you wanted to count it

regal coyote Jul 31, 2018, 5:54 PM

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@terse oak that is actually an overwatch member in recall personel flashes

cunning ledge Jul 31, 2018, 5:55 PM

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i don't think they were referring to that

regal coyote Jul 31, 2018, 5:56 PM

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oops i guess deleted posts we cannot see then.

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thanks for deleting :)

terse oak Jul 31, 2018, 6:03 PM

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@regal coyote Yes it was deleted sorry

regal coyote Jul 31, 2018, 6:04 PM

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thanks

weak crag Jul 31, 2018, 6:07 PM

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Anyone think Hammond will be joining overwatch after it restarts?

regal coyote Jul 31, 2018, 6:07 PM

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nah

obtuse geyser Jul 31, 2018, 6:13 PM

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Winston hitting up hammond like

yo hammond, its me, the gorilla that you havent talked to in ages, im restarting this ilegal police force, and I was wondering if you wanna join.

-pip pip, nah fam im brawing in aussi with some bad guys.

limpid agate Jul 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

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@weak crag Every hero except for the talon heroes has space for them joining Overwatch to be written in

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@obtuse geyser Hammond is not in Australia anymore, and the Junkers arent bad guys

regal coyote Jul 31, 2018, 6:22 PM

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half true

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unlikely personality of junkrat/roadhog fits into overwatch

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but yeah the rest of the non telon there is sapce for them to be joining, even symmetra

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even talon

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sicne blizz love that trope

limpid agate Jul 31, 2018, 6:23 PM

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I forgot about Junkrat/Roadhog

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Talon and those two

spiral dove Jul 31, 2018, 6:50 PM

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where do I find all this lore? videos?

limpid agate Jul 31, 2018, 6:53 PM

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Pins @spiral dove

craggy copper Jul 31, 2018, 7:23 PM

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@quiet tiger pic?

quiet tiger Jul 31, 2018, 7:23 PM

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Never mind I can’t post a pic

craggy copper Jul 31, 2018, 7:23 PM

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Link it

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Or at least DM it to me?

quiet tiger Jul 31, 2018, 7:24 PM

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Go back to where we where

dire timber Jul 31, 2018, 8:53 PM

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https://twitter.com/crashwong/status/1024311759715356672

Alyssa Wong 🌸🌈 (@crashwong)

GUESS WHO'S THE NEW WRITER ON @PlayOverwatch!!! I'm so excited to join the team & learn from all of the passionate, creative folks at Blizzard!! ❄️💖❄️ #BlizzLife

Retweets

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new writer, huh

white cobalt Jul 31, 2018, 8:56 PM

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wow

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no more misconceptions?

dire timber Jul 31, 2018, 8:58 PM

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bad meme

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what this means is

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maybe we're getting more lore

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‼

limpid agate Jul 31, 2018, 9:06 PM

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Who is this

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She apparently is an award winning horror short story writer

sharp lintel Jul 31, 2018, 9:11 PM

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wait who is that

brisk harbor Jul 31, 2018, 9:16 PM

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Rip Michael Chu

white cobalt Jul 31, 2018, 9:21 PM

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Chu seems still the lead writer, i think Blizz wanted more ideas i guess

brisk harbor Jul 31, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Yeah cuz they haven't been doing shit for a while

limpid agate Jul 31, 2018, 9:23 PM

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Gamescom and Blizzcon will show off lore pre-Wong

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Maybe they brought her in

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For Halloween

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🤷

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Writing a new Halloween comic prolly

hushed mortar Jul 31, 2018, 9:25 PM

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Maybe we'll get a Mercy story for Halloween? gremlindva

limpid agate Jul 31, 2018, 9:29 PM

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You mean like the last two

peak escarp Jul 31, 2018, 9:33 PM

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We don't need any more Junkenstein AU

hushed mortar Jul 31, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Nah, maybe something more solo? Personal?

frosty shell Jul 31, 2018, 9:44 PM

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I'd like more Junkenstein AU

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See how other heroes are portrayed

dire timber Jul 31, 2018, 9:45 PM

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@brisk harbor uh, wha?

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Chu's still the lead writer

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we just got a new person on the writing team

limpid agate Jul 31, 2018, 9:48 PM

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And they're a horror writer, so I imagine we are gonna get a Halloween comic from them

peak escarp Jul 31, 2018, 10:53 PM

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Their writing also tends to be quite diverse/inclusive, so that's a plus as well

dire timber Jul 31, 2018, 11:00 PM

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fingers crossed for a black female hero

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Idk, maybe I think about this too much

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but somehow the cast of Overwatch doesn't really feel complete without this particular bit of representation

limpid agate Jul 31, 2018, 11:19 PM

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Theres always next year

valid shell Jul 31, 2018, 11:21 PM

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I feel responsible for planting that seed in you.

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I'm just a sucker for Creole French.

honest pulsar Aug 1, 2018, 12:05 AM

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@dire timber why would that ever happen this game is already really diverse and does not need to represent EVERY "type" of person

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People don't care about that stuff they just want a good game

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If.the game is good I play it

dire timber Aug 1, 2018, 12:07 AM

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uh, but it could include a black woman, you know?

honest pulsar Aug 1, 2018, 12:07 AM

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Agree?

dire timber Aug 1, 2018, 12:08 AM

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and that wouldn't make it a bad gane

honest pulsar Aug 1, 2018, 12:08 AM

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I didn't say it would.... nice

compact panther Aug 1, 2018, 12:08 AM

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boss of talon :^)

dire timber Aug 1, 2018, 12:09 AM

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uh

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aaaanyhow

honest pulsar Aug 1, 2018, 12:09 AM

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I'm just saying look at the new battlefield they don't like that game because it.isnt want people want... And as far as I'm concerned that game doesn't even have lore

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Gtg

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 12:11 AM

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@compact panther Shitposting will result in a loss of access

compact panther Aug 1, 2018, 12:12 AM

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hey im just tired, want some new lore

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some new cinematic

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anything

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a comic even!

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i still hate that the light novel got canceled

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sigh

valid shell Aug 1, 2018, 12:17 AM

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@compact panther Having a 'Boss of Talon' would invalidate the council they've been building up.

compact panther Aug 1, 2018, 12:18 AM

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yeah i know, was jut shit talking :/

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building up 2 years of story

valid shell Aug 1, 2018, 12:19 AM

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Less shit talking pls.

desert yacht Aug 1, 2018, 2:36 AM

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hammond boss of talon

peak escarp Aug 1, 2018, 2:43 AM

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no

lone nimbus Aug 1, 2018, 2:50 AM

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hammond has gay

brisk harbor Aug 1, 2018, 3:04 AM

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We don't know a lot about hammond but it's highly unlikely he's associated with talon

valid shell Aug 1, 2018, 3:14 AM

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@limpid agate

jade jacinth Aug 1, 2018, 3:33 AM

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we need Mr. Clean in Numbani

twin pollen Aug 1, 2018, 3:44 AM

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@dire timber I’ve always thought of Orisa as the a black woman,(but a robot) maybe that’s wrong but that’s how I see her.

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 4:13 AM

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@desert yacht @lone nimbus @jade jacinth Shitposting will result in a loss of access, this is your final warning

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@twin pollen She is a black woman but a robot.

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Like how Zenyatta is an asian monk, but a robot

desert yacht Aug 1, 2018, 4:14 AM

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her voice actor is a black woman i think

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 4:14 AM

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Yup

peak escarp Aug 1, 2018, 4:14 AM

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so is Athena's

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 4:14 AM

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I think Athena's is too

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But unlike Athena

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Orisa is an African built by a black girl

twin pollen Aug 1, 2018, 4:15 AM

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Yeah, I just thought that someone wanted a black woman character and I felt Orisa fills that role perfectly

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 4:15 AM

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She does

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Only thing she doesnt do is literally be a black woman

twin pollen Aug 1, 2018, 4:15 AM

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True

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 4:16 AM

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And all the black women in the lore are

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Efi, Adawe, and Mirembe

desert yacht Aug 1, 2018, 4:16 AM

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who are the last 2?

peak escarp Aug 1, 2018, 4:16 AM

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Gabrielle Adawe put Overwatch together

desert yacht Aug 1, 2018, 4:17 AM

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is she apart of the UN?

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 4:17 AM

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Adawe is the former vice secretary general. She made Overwatch and I think she had a hand in Numbani too

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Yes

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Mirembe is an Overwatch agent

desert yacht Aug 1, 2018, 4:17 AM

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so who is mirembe

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ok

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 4:17 AM

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She was in Recall

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📎 329px-Mirembe_Recall.png

desert yacht Aug 1, 2018, 4:17 AM

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that suit is kinda like zarya's

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 4:18 AM

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She was only seen in generic soldier outfit

📎 MirembeLegacy.png

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We havent seen her full modern day appearance

peak escarp Aug 1, 2018, 4:18 AM

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there's a few other unnamed black women

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like the one in the Ana photo

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 4:18 AM

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No one cares about the unnamed

peak escarp Aug 1, 2018, 4:18 AM

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and one in the Recall IDs

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I care . . . 😒

valid shell Aug 1, 2018, 4:21 AM

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It would be neat if Athena's AI was based on Gabrielle Adawe.

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 4:23 AM

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I wouldnt mind seeing more of Mirembe

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Unfortunately, I dont think we will

desert yacht Aug 1, 2018, 4:24 AM

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can't wait until we get some liao lore

valid shell Aug 1, 2018, 4:34 AM

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@desert yacht Don't hold your breath.

worthy rose Aug 1, 2018, 6:21 AM

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I hope with that new sci-fi writer hired, we'll get more, and accurate lore

peak escarp Aug 1, 2018, 6:21 AM

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more lore is always nice

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 6:26 AM

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Not unless they find a way to monetize it

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She'll probably be doing the Halloween comic

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Then not much else

worthy rose Aug 1, 2018, 8:55 AM

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Moira was probably really active on whatever the Overwatch version of Newgrounds

rose hedge Aug 1, 2018, 11:21 AM

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I still have the feeling Emily will one day be a hero

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I always think about Widow and Gerrard when thinking about why it would happen.

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 11:26 AM

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@dire timber @limpid agate I would give her benefit of the doubt, things that is posted is a bit girly in style but there is also cool stuff. maybe she can write a good story

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NEVERMIND, she had a fucking twilight meme posted.

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Nothing can com out of a writer that enjoys that piece of shit series.

cunning ledge Aug 1, 2018, 11:27 AM

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hamster pls

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 11:28 AM

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And when in doubt, remmber, that pleague we called 50 shades started as a fanfic of twilight.

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@cunning ledge yes? I am open for the most part, but not trust anyone claiming to be horror, and liek twilight

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i am looking for samples of her work now, so i can pass better judgement

rose hedge Aug 1, 2018, 11:32 AM

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I mean

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I'll give anyone a shot

iron plume Aug 1, 2018, 11:33 AM

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why would Gerard make it more likely

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 11:39 AM

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for the record i DO NOT think emily is at all related to moira, as some tinfoil would say

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but no i dont think anyone related should always be hero

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i dont see torby's wife beign a hero either

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I know overwatch is sorts like family watch

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And while i love emily i dont see her being a yet again hero

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she might support in other ways though

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wonder what her profession is?

cunning ledge Aug 1, 2018, 11:40 AM

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iirc there's some hints towards it

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 11:40 AM

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Unlikely electronic type of specialist since if that is the case should would be upgrading tracer's toys

cunning ledge Aug 1, 2018, 11:40 AM

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someone, possibly chu in the reddit ama, said that there's clues in the apartment

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 11:41 AM

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Architech of sorts?

cunning ledge Aug 1, 2018, 11:41 AM

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and there's a symmetra architech magazine in the apartment

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so maybe that

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 11:41 AM

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makes sense due to the book

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A News reporter type would be good, think april in TMNT

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architech or soem kind of structural designer makes sense.

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you dont need a home workshop then (msot engineers have one, as a hobbya t least, you cannot ever ever fight that urge)

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also ont he flip side she might be wrighting the said article or even head of that magazine

cunning ledge Aug 1, 2018, 11:44 AM

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that's the other thing you could take from it

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someone who works for the newspaper

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 11:45 AM

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the newspaper type would be cute, especially as a supporting character

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would be ncie if the new overwatch would have to order strange pizza and such, she would come in handy (TMNT stuff)

dire timber Aug 1, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Emily being related to Moira wouldn't be too bad though

iron plume Aug 1, 2018, 11:47 AM

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you're only saying that because you're headcanoning it

dire timber Aug 1, 2018, 11:48 AM

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yeah I guess

iron plume Aug 1, 2018, 11:49 AM

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I mean it wouldn't be that bad
but neither would most hypothesized connections one by one

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it'd only be a problem if they tried to turn the entire thing into a net of "this guy is this guy's long lost grandpa"

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 11:55 AM

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I mean, ingrid (tobywife) being mercy's distant relative is at least reasonable to think of it.

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trying to tie all redheads together would be weird.

iron plume Aug 1, 2018, 11:56 AM

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I'd rather have the adoptive parents thing

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yeah they're not blondes after all

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that'd be weird

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 11:56 AM

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Also, their bodytype is not that close... moira would be mroe taller and thinner

rose hedge Aug 1, 2018, 12:15 PM

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About Emily, remember how Talon used Widow to kill Gerard?

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What's to stop them from turning Emily and using her to try to kill Traced?

dire timber Aug 1, 2018, 1:18 PM

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cause it'd be boring plotline recycling

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leave stuff like this to fanfics, I would say

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esp. since Tracer's not a high profile target for Talon in general

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just a nuisance that interfered in, what, two missions? one of which was a success anyway?

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no reason to dedicate so much resources to deal with her specifically

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and like I said, it'd be silly idea

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with Widowmaker, it's part of her backstory, part of her character design

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with Emily it'd be "zomg she's evil now!!"

honest pulsar Aug 1, 2018, 1:45 PM

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🕺

grim cipher Aug 1, 2018, 2:02 PM

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Know this was awhile ago but does anyone feel that tracer being lesbian was forced?

worthy rose Aug 1, 2018, 2:03 PM

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I feel that zarya revealing sombras name was forced

rose hedge Aug 1, 2018, 2:04 PM

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Tracer being a lesbian feels normal

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 2:05 PM

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why would it be forced though

worthy rose Aug 1, 2018, 2:05 PM

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I always felt that she was a lesbian even before the reveal

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 2:05 PM

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there is no proof on info on what tracer would love to bang beforehand whatsoever

rose hedge Aug 1, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Tracer just has the personality of a lesbian is all

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Now saying torby being gay would be fucking stupid if they would do that .... since we KNOW he lvoe his wife and kid.

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But for tracer before that hher lvoe life is blank sheet as far as we know

worthy rose Aug 1, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Although tbh i see tracer being more asexual than anything

rose hedge Aug 1, 2018, 2:06 PM

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...

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Is Junk gay?

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 2:06 PM

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not everyone is big on sex issue.

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like, winston.

rose hedge Aug 1, 2018, 2:07 PM

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Like would he and Roadhog ever... You know....

worthy rose Aug 1, 2018, 2:07 PM

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It just doesnt seem like the kinda person to be interested in sex or anything

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 2:07 PM

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we do not know

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but for unkrat/roadhog, right now thay are really good bromance at least.

worthy rose Aug 1, 2018, 2:07 PM

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I was told that roadhog doesnt like junkrat

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 2:07 PM

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wel in the beginning maybe

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but right now you KNOW they are happy to be with each other, with that bit of synnergy

iron plume Aug 1, 2018, 2:08 PM

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pls no shipposting

worthy rose Aug 1, 2018, 2:08 PM

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Roadhog is never happy in lore

iron plume Aug 1, 2018, 2:08 PM

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I don't think Hog is happy to be with junk

worthy rose Aug 1, 2018, 2:08 PM

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He has only ever laughed ingame

iron plume Aug 1, 2018, 2:08 PM

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But he tolerates him

worthy rose Aug 1, 2018, 2:09 PM

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I mean the dude doesnt even really talk in actual lore

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 2:09 PM

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I would say from "the plan" at least hog would be willing buy into rat's stupid plan to start with, showing that he took a liking to him at least as a great friend

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sicne really, junkrat's plan on junkertown is shit even if it did succeed

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if hog is really annoyed by junkrat there and then he can easily go "NO" and he would be able to just call its whole thing off to start

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especially since he is willing to waste a calimari with his plan even

worthy rose Aug 1, 2018, 2:11 PM

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He "said" no around 3 times

rose hedge Aug 1, 2018, 2:11 PM

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...

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 2:11 PM

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but he follow through with a "functional plan" and put on the outfit even

rose hedge Aug 1, 2018, 2:11 PM

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We need The Queen as a character

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 2:11 PM

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you think it is fun to wear that shark shit?

worthy rose Aug 1, 2018, 2:12 PM

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He wants to cause chaos

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 2:12 PM

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he would have doen it better himself really if that was his sole purpose

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i think in his heart he took a liking of junkrat, as a fun "friend" of sorts

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you can even see him having "fun" in one of thsoee attics they had

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as for emily going assassain on tracer, NO.

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gerard is different, he is a good organizer,, he has plans, and the leadership skills to run such plan

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it is not his combat skills that only makes him high piority, but his tactical side.

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tracer is not really a good planner relatively.

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also the obvious protection for Tracer is something called "plot recycling" as said by soem people before this, and also "Plot armor" especially her being the main mascot

valid shell Aug 1, 2018, 4:43 PM

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Jesus this channel's been a shitshow today.

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Must be summer vacation.

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 5:09 PM

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@rose hedge Hero 29 is your best bet for the Queen.

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@regal coyote No idea where you started talking about the Emily becoming Gerard 2 or why

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But it aint happening

nova elbow Aug 1, 2018, 5:30 PM

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is the plan definitely even canon?

valid shell Aug 1, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Yes.

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 5:44 PM

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Of course

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WHy wouldnt it be

regal coyote Aug 1, 2018, 5:49 PM

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oh someone was mentioning that, and i think it silly. no way emily be widow2

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 8:16 PM

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@tough zinc Serious discussion strictly related to lore

cedar moon Aug 1, 2018, 8:40 PM

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Would anyone be happy if Sombra’s name wasn’t exposed

peak escarp Aug 1, 2018, 8:42 PM

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It would have been a nice mystery, but knowing her name does nothing.

cunning ledge Aug 1, 2018, 8:42 PM

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she'll always be ░░░░░░ to me

dire timber Aug 1, 2018, 9:05 PM

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Idk, I think it was cool to finally get it

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...

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http://www.carlogos.org/logo/Tesla-logo-2003-2500x2500.png

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🤔

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 9:18 PM

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📎 9k.png

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Huh

cunning ledge Aug 1, 2018, 9:18 PM

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?

cedar moon Aug 1, 2018, 9:18 PM

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What’s tat

dire timber Aug 1, 2018, 9:18 PM

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~~Elon Musk was the founder of Talon~~

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Tesla looks like Talon

cunning ledge Aug 1, 2018, 9:19 PM

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organisations with names starting with T have logos shaped like a T

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i feel like this is a coincidence

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 9:19 PM

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And Infinity looks like OW

📎 Z.png

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@fallow cipher Shitposting will result in a loss of access

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Final warning

fallow cipher Aug 1, 2018, 9:19 PM

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:(

cedar moon Aug 1, 2018, 9:19 PM

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~~But but~~

dire timber Aug 1, 2018, 9:19 PM

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📎 PurpleAndRedTalonSquare.png

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here's a better quality Talon logo

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not official, but still

fallow cipher Aug 1, 2018, 9:20 PM

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Im very unhappy about my thoughts my apologies

dire timber Aug 1, 2018, 9:20 PM

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I honestly don't get why we didn't get a Talon spray now

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seriously

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 9:20 PM

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Maybe next archives

dire timber Aug 1, 2018, 9:20 PM

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we got a Null Sector spray for Uprising

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why not Talon spray for Retribution?

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 9:21 PM

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Im surprised too

cedar moon Aug 1, 2018, 9:21 PM

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Talon spray for reaper

fallow cipher Aug 1, 2018, 9:21 PM

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Reinnardt is gonna get a new skin at summer games event?

dire timber Aug 1, 2018, 9:21 PM

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https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c8/ea/db/c8eadbff6cb0e0397654f25d3a9eb05b.jpg

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lmao

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 9:21 PM

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Its the nature of

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T logos

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Looking like Ts

dire timber Aug 1, 2018, 9:22 PM

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yeah, but

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why red

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that one's entirely coincidental

wheat furnace Aug 1, 2018, 9:24 PM

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coincidental?@!?

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THE SUN IS NEXT TO US AND ITS COINCIDENTAL?@!?@?

limpid agate Aug 1, 2018, 9:29 PM

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@wheat furnace Shitposting will result in a loss of access

worthy rose Aug 1, 2018, 11:08 PM

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dunno if you are following hots stuff but there's that "viper" organization

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their color scheme is a bit similar to talon's

cunning ledge Aug 1, 2018, 11:10 PM

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didn't they even subtly reference talon in the reveal video

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hots is completely non canon anyway

eager vigil Aug 1, 2018, 11:17 PM

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wasn't there a viper along for 76??

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or was that venom

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😔 ThinkingSombra 🤔

cunning ledge Aug 1, 2018, 11:19 PM

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venom

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and that skin isn't lore

vale loom Aug 2, 2018, 1:01 AM

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ThinkingSombra

worthy rose Aug 2, 2018, 1:16 AM

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ThinkingSombra

chrome vault Aug 2, 2018, 1:21 AM

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limpid agate Aug 2, 2018, 1:22 AM

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Stop spamming emotes

chrome vault Aug 2, 2018, 1:22 AM

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Rip BANANAD

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I'll bail myself out

valid shell Aug 2, 2018, 1:29 AM

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@limpid agate

limpid agate Aug 2, 2018, 1:30 AM

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Moving swiftly onwards

regal coyote Aug 2, 2018, 11:53 AM

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havve to say the talon logo is quite shitty design

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srsly doomfist should think of rebranding

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maybe going legit with a "Talon Corps"

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i mean, as edgy as reaper his design would be better

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or max can hire people for it

nova elbow Aug 2, 2018, 12:21 PM

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the new hero can be a designer for Talon
…that could actually be quite cool
anyway, lore

dire timber Aug 2, 2018, 1:41 PM

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@regal coyote uh, how is it shitty design?

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it looks great

regal coyote Aug 2, 2018, 1:44 PM

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Not a symbol unique enough to be remembered

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it is like a general T symbol

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think about the overwatch symbol, it is unique and everyone knows it if they ahve seen it

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compare talon's symbol to say, Tasla's symbol

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I am not saying Talon's symbol should bt at the level of Tasla.

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But right now it is really generaic.

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I guess it does serve its purpose

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Yes, id do think the slightly edgy blackwatch emblem is at least iconic in a way

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I guess Talon should let reaper design the logo then

dire timber Aug 2, 2018, 2:09 PM

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like I said, I think it looks great

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I just wish we had a spray of it

iron plume Aug 2, 2018, 2:10 PM

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I wish we actually had a global blackwatch one

dire timber Aug 2, 2018, 2:11 PM

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that too

iron plume Aug 2, 2018, 2:11 PM

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wait do we even have a non-global one

dire timber Aug 2, 2018, 2:11 PM

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only for Reaper

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I use dark overwatch logo as a replacement

iron plume Aug 2, 2018, 2:12 PM

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right, reaper
was looking at mccree since the icon is listed as mccree

dire timber Aug 2, 2018, 2:12 PM

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with black instead of white

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but it's not really sufficient

iron plume Aug 2, 2018, 2:13 PM

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I also dislike some of the old logo sprays in general

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the ones that they designed before they gave up on making them actually look sprayed on

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becuase they just look like shit

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and both OW and BW logos are that

worthy rose Aug 2, 2018, 2:46 PM

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The talon symbol is an edgy vagina

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Just sayin'

iron plume Aug 2, 2018, 2:52 PM

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eyeroll

regal coyote Aug 2, 2018, 2:52 PM

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i d want a talon symbol

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as a spray

quasi fern Aug 2, 2018, 4:25 PM

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But who would you give that to

peak escarp Aug 2, 2018, 4:28 PM

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any of the talon members?

regal coyote Aug 2, 2018, 5:12 PM

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or as a spry from events for all characters

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like null sector

dire timber Aug 2, 2018, 5:20 PM

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^

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Blackwatch and Talon should both be global sprays

worthy rose Aug 2, 2018, 8:23 PM

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Do omnics feel?

cunning ledge Aug 2, 2018, 8:23 PM

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emotions? yes

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pain? debatable

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going by in-game they do but that might just be gameplay/immersion factor

worthy rose Aug 2, 2018, 8:24 PM

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Arent their emotions just simulated?

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By programming

cunning ledge Aug 2, 2018, 8:25 PM

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that's how artificial intelligence works, yes

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insert submarines swim quote here

nova elbow Aug 2, 2018, 9:18 PM

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surely in-universe Talon wouldn't want their logo to be particularly recognisable anyway
if you see it you know it's them, but it's not gonna spread

dire timber Aug 2, 2018, 11:49 PM

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@cunning ledge they might not feel pain per se, but... I think they do experience something similar

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like, look at that omnic in the Hero short

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if that doesn't look like being in pain, I dunno what does

jaunty fox Aug 2, 2018, 11:51 PM

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Hmmm could some Dva lore be coming out soon. New Lucioball map is in Busan South Korea.

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https://twitter.com/OverwatchKR/status/1025154177113247744

dire timber Aug 2, 2018, 11:52 PM

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I wonder whether "South Korea" is still a nation in the OW universe

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or just a region

jaunty fox Aug 2, 2018, 11:53 PM

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Dva's profile page says she's from "Busan South Korea".

dire timber Aug 2, 2018, 11:53 PM

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cause, you know. Omnic Crisis and/or Overwatch activity could've resulted in reunification

jaunty fox Aug 2, 2018, 11:53 PM

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It would be stupid for them to release a map in Busan South Korea and not have Dva lore come out with it. It's her hometown.

dire timber Aug 2, 2018, 11:54 PM

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yep, hope that we do get something!

jaunty fox Aug 2, 2018, 11:54 PM

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It's a good time to get Dva lore.

dire timber Aug 2, 2018, 11:54 PM

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that being said, Rio map didn't give us much for Symmetra or Lucio

jaunty fox Aug 2, 2018, 11:54 PM

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True.

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Maybe this will be like last year where they release a Korean map after the event.

dire timber Aug 2, 2018, 11:56 PM

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uh, they released Austr--

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ah

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Junkertown was after Summer Games?

peak escarp Aug 3, 2018, 12:03 AM

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yes

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Junkertown was revealed at Gamescom last year

frosty shell Aug 3, 2018, 12:05 AM

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I was curious as to whether the cars in some maps drive on the left

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However, the only maps where that would apply all seem to only have one-way streets

limpid agate Aug 3, 2018, 1:23 AM

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Is that Busan?

jaunty fox Aug 3, 2018, 1:24 AM

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It's supposed to be Busan.

limpid agate Aug 3, 2018, 1:24 AM

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Nice, its what I said was gonna happen

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Two years ago

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Olympics are in SK

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So they're gonna do something

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For SK

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Though I also thought Russia had a chance with World Cup

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But Olympics trump Fifa it seems

limpid agate Aug 3, 2018, 3:36 AM

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There are streets on King's Row, Hollywood, and Oasis, right? @frosty shell

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Are there other maps with streets that have vehicles on them

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I am not counting paths the payload walks on that look like roads but are absent of literally any other vehicle

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Just streets that physically have cars and buses on them

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I suppose Numbani is another

white cobalt Aug 3, 2018, 4:35 AM

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we're not expecting map for this event right?

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i mean apart from the Lucioball one.

peak escarp Aug 3, 2018, 4:38 AM

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probably not

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we don't usually get new main maps with events

lean prawn Aug 3, 2018, 4:45 AM

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we just got rialto from archives

peak escarp Aug 3, 2018, 4:50 AM

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that's the only one

limpid agate Aug 3, 2018, 4:59 AM

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And even then

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That was a month after the event

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The closest we will get is, as was suggested earlier

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An unrelated Korea map

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Last year we got an Australian stadium

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And then Junkertown

regal coyote Aug 3, 2018, 12:03 PM

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http://gptravel.com.sg/deals/static/team/2018/0225/15194916085109.jpg

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similar to this thing in Busan

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Busan is a touristy beachy place

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nice vacation sport

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and is at one point famouse fo fuckers

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lovers but same thing, (i mean that is what lovers do right?)

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wait so it ommon all lucioball fields are floating on the sea?

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or enar one

worthy rose Aug 3, 2018, 12:42 PM

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Null Sector did nothing wrong

dire timber Aug 3, 2018, 12:45 PM

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they're literal robot nazis

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purging organics from the territories they occupy

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I know their cause may seem sympathetic due to the oppression suffered by omnics

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but they're, uh, very extreme in their approach to "securing a future for omnics"

nova elbow Aug 3, 2018, 4:55 PM

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this is why I think the Conspiracy wants Omnic domination

rose hedge Aug 3, 2018, 5:13 PM

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@limpid agate the start of Hanamura has a street for the start area of defense

limpid agate Aug 3, 2018, 5:14 PM

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Thanks

rose hedge Aug 3, 2018, 5:15 PM

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Yep TohruThumbsUp

iron plume Aug 3, 2018, 5:17 PM

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attack

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defense starts in the castle

dire timber Aug 3, 2018, 5:18 PM

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@nova elbow I think that there's no conspiracy

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and that Sombra misinterpreted her findings

nova elbow Aug 3, 2018, 5:22 PM

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what did she find, then?

dire timber Aug 3, 2018, 5:33 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/8dym7t/theory_on_the_entity_that_found_sombra/

r/Overwatch - Theory: On the entity that found Sombra

129 votes and 28 comments so far on Reddit

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at least, that's my take on this

regal coyote Aug 3, 2018, 6:59 PM

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do Null Sector executes all organics/humans though

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or do they just want control over them

weary copper Aug 3, 2018, 7:50 PM

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Also, why did null sector capture Mondatta?

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He's an omnic too >.>

iron plume Aug 3, 2018, 7:51 PM

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because Mondatta is an advocate for peace and unity between humans and omnics

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and NS want to basically wage another war

weary copper Aug 3, 2018, 7:51 PM

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oh

worthy rose Aug 3, 2018, 8:07 PM

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null sector wanted an omnic nation in the UK

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not much more is said about them, they probably wanted to deport all humans

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they captured mondatta because he was indeed an advocate for unity between humans and omnics, and he was cozying up to the mayor of london

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they wanted them gone, similiar to african nationalists who want white people out of africa @regal coyote

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or african nationalists who want an african nation in america

frosty shell Aug 3, 2018, 9:46 PM

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However, there's no maps with two-way traffic located in countries where they drive on the left

dire timber Aug 3, 2018, 9:54 PM

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@regal coyote they did capture valuable hostages

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but otherwise, they're described as "hunting down the survivors"

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@weary copper same reason why Nazi Germany captured German dissenters

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it's not as if they had any respect for the guy, and his teachings run contrary to their cause

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they don't want any preachy weaklings calling for peace and harmony

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🤷🏻

hallow bolt Aug 4, 2018, 12:05 AM

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U guys think D.va and lucio should be in overwatch bc they are completely separate in the lore

valid shell Aug 4, 2018, 12:06 AM

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Sure.

peak escarp Aug 4, 2018, 12:19 AM

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I'd like to see them get recruited as part of the story

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But I don't want them added "just because"

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They should have a reason for joining

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And above all it should not happen off-screen

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We should get to see it happen

jaunty fox Aug 4, 2018, 12:32 AM

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We might get some D.va lore soon.

peak escarp Aug 4, 2018, 12:33 AM

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I hope so

jaunty fox Aug 4, 2018, 1:02 AM

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We don't know much about her other than she was a pro gamer drafted into the military to fight omnics.

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And that her father is still alive. She's mentions that in a super rare voiceline.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otErdkQVoAM

peak escarp Aug 4, 2018, 1:03 AM

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her bio gives a bit about her personality - she's competitive and merciless to her opponents

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"Famous for her elite skills, D.Va was a fierce competitor who played to win at all costs, and she had a well-earned reputation for showing no mercy to her opponents."

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I wish they'd show more of that in her dialogue

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and less of the gamer memes

jaunty fox Aug 4, 2018, 1:05 AM

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Or dive into her fighting during the war.

peak escarp Aug 4, 2018, 1:07 AM

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the only hint of her being a combat veteran is her line on Eichenwalde

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"The destruction here, it reminds me of home."

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minor correction though - she didn't fight in war

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she fought against a single colossal omnic that comes out of the sea every few years

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the omnic crisis ended roughly 25 years ago, before she was even born

jaunty fox Aug 4, 2018, 1:34 AM

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She says it in Volskaya too.

peak escarp Aug 4, 2018, 1:40 AM

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right

jaunty fox Aug 4, 2018, 1:46 AM

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"Seeing what happened after the war here gives me hope for the rebuilding of my country. " On Osais.

peak escarp Aug 4, 2018, 1:46 AM

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huh, I haven't heard that one

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my group must not play DVa on Oasis much

royal ether Aug 4, 2018, 9:01 AM

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WHo is Null Sector

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are they the people that killed mondatta?

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Beccause me and my friend have a theory that mondatta is Maximmiline

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I dunno who to spell maximillien

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oh

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i just did

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well

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ye

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and me and my friend followed up from a few vids and we have a strong and proven theory that Moira was already in Talon

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I mean how does the sniper have that teleporting ability that reaper and moira shares

regal coyote Aug 4, 2018, 9:44 AM

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null sector is an all omnic extreme terrorist organization whose goal is soemthing about omnic supremicy and taking down the organics

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Mondetta is neutralized by Widow, the noble blood enhanced sniper of Talon, ex-depanda of a top overwatch agent.

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no Max is another omnic that exist before mondetta is neutralized.

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Talon is a shadow organization whose current goal is advancement of civilization through war and conflict.

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currently lead by the current doomfist. there is a council (like Councilof 13 of skaven i guess) and members include Reaper (ex-overwatch edgelord, long story) max, moira, sanjay (currently an npc, higher up in Vishkar) etc

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titbit, mondetta's deatgh is long developed in the storyline way back in the concept. statue of mondetta on kings row was calling him robot jesus in concept art. Mondetta is named cause of the pigs, i mean the Police.

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Zenyatte Mondetta the album

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@peak escarp @hallow bolt i dont think having Lucio in overwatch is good though

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Lucio being free spirit is better at his job travelling like a bard opening concerts and spreading his message, starting rebellion and what not.

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D.Va though, it would work if there is an "Asian Overwatch" sub-devision ... kinda like how avengers splits into East and West to better server the areas.

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 10:24 AM

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@royal ether Null Sector are the omnic extremist group in the Uprising

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and your theory on Mondatta is 100% wrong

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that being said, Moira being already in Talon by the time of Retribution is indeed very likely

regal coyote Aug 4, 2018, 10:27 AM

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not sure about Moira's status at that time really

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she may or may not be related to talon, most likely she is. but unlikely be in the council yet.

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 10:28 AM

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there is a fair share of evidence that does support the idea

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such as the genetic modification of Talon units

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and the smoke abilities possessed by the snipers

regal coyote Aug 4, 2018, 10:29 AM

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I would say at least we can say moira is definitely in talon when reaper dons his famous outfit

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@dire timber selling and supporting them yes

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but may just be a business relationship rather than a member

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like moira selling them tech for money

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 10:30 AM

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I have this idea that having Reyes take Antonio out was her entry job into Talon council

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cause he became inconvenient to the other people on the council

regal coyote Aug 4, 2018, 10:30 AM

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interesting i have to say

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I am thinking that it might not be a "entry job" but definitely one of her moves to gain more influence and status towards Talon

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 10:30 AM

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mhmn

regal coyote Aug 4, 2018, 10:31 AM

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antonio seem to be the big one at that time

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maybe she took out antonio for one of the "potentials"

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 10:31 AM

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Vialli took over for him

regal coyote Aug 4, 2018, 10:31 AM

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and as award she gain soem power in talon

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it is not unlikely she is playing all sides when talon ivil war was happening.

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wonder how long it takes for ccialli to took over

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more like, DID VIALLI took over?

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i have the impression doomfist won that conflict

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and vialli took ofer only after doomfist goet overwatched

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 10:49 AM

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I mean, Reyes did go on to say that Vialli would likely take over for Antonio

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but at the time, Akande wasn't Doomfist yet

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I think it would be a little too soon for Akande to be a leader at that point

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replacing the Scourge did improve his standing, but not that much

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so as far as we know, the line of succession for the position of Talon leader goes Antonio -> Vialli -> Doomfist

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I think that before Doomfist's arrest, he was operating under Vialli's permission

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I mean, Doomfist was probably the shot caller anyways, but it's likely that Vialli was still technically the top gun

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maybe I could use Transformers for this analogy, as corny as that's going to be.

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imagine a scenario where Starscream has a plan of action, and he's basically in charge of carrying out this plan.

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while Megatron is just sitting back, allowing the plan to proceed, not realizing that there's no place for him in Starscream's plan in the long run

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that's what I think the pre-arrest relationship between Doomfist and Vialli was

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@regal coyote

regal coyote Aug 4, 2018, 11:05 AM

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that would make sense

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but I really dont want to see the scene where Doomfist is wearing a crown and goes 'Vosallia, is that you?" after him getting blasted by a upgraded mecha-vialli via omnic tech

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Then again doomfist does not seem to be as cocky as starscream

worthy rose Aug 4, 2018, 11:43 AM

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isn't moira was a talon mole in blackwatch?

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 11:45 AM

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that's the leading theory, yeah

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we don't know for sure

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but there's plenty evidence indicating such

rose hedge Aug 4, 2018, 11:59 AM

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Moira will do anything for funding

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 12:40 PM

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and test subjects*

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in Blackwatch, she got Reyes

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in Talon... hoo boy

worthy rose Aug 4, 2018, 12:44 PM

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In Talon, she got the masterpiece of her life

honest pulsar Aug 4, 2018, 1:14 PM

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Bastion is in Overwatch right kaplanwhat

vagrant thistle Aug 4, 2018, 1:37 PM

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Torb was taking care of him, and zen knows about it, so probably

iron plume Aug 4, 2018, 1:38 PM

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It’s likely but not confirmed

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Zen doesn’t know Bastion

vagrant thistle Aug 4, 2018, 1:42 PM

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Oh. He has a voice line to torb asking about the omnic he's been taking care of, so I guess that doesn't really confirm anything solid

iron plume Aug 4, 2018, 1:44 PM

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in game interactions aren’t canon

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although that does refer to Bastion

vagrant thistle Aug 4, 2018, 2:00 PM

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So is Zen in overwatch then?

peak escarp Aug 4, 2018, 2:03 PM

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No

cedar moon Aug 4, 2018, 3:01 PM

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Is genji in Overwatch

brisk harbor Aug 4, 2018, 3:02 PM

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Yes

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But present we are unsure

cedar moon Aug 4, 2018, 3:05 PM

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Also why didn’t Genji go to talon like reaper and Moira did

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 3:07 PM

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@honest pulsar Bastion was last seen travelling with Torb

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but we don't know whether they joined up with Winston's new Overwatch

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@vagrant thistle Zenyatta is not in Overwatch, and has never been

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he's a monk from Nepal, travelling the word

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he left the Shambali, and sometime after Genji left Blackwatch, he took him as a student

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@cedar moon Genji has been in Blackwatch, Overwatch's covert ops division, before Overwatch collapsed

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he has received Winston's recall, but we don't know whether he responded yet

cedar moon Aug 4, 2018, 3:10 PM

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Ye I mean why didn’t he leave to talons side tho like the other 2

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 3:10 PM

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so far, the only people we know to have already assembled are Winston, Tracer, and Mei

cedar moon Aug 4, 2018, 3:11 PM

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What abt rein 😦

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 3:11 PM

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Rein's with Brigitte

cedar moon Aug 4, 2018, 3:11 PM

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O

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 3:11 PM

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we don't know whether he met up with Team Winston yet

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@cedar moon if Genji hadn't left, it could be that Reyes could've roped him into Talon, the way he seems to have recruited some Blackwatch grunts

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but he did leave

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and after his time with Zenyatta, there's no way he'd join

cedar moon Aug 4, 2018, 3:13 PM

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Okay

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 3:14 PM

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and McCree... it'd have never agreed with him

cedar moon Aug 4, 2018, 3:14 PM

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I would’ve thought he at least considered Overwatch from that doomfist origin story

peak escarp Aug 4, 2018, 3:15 PM

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who would have considered Overwatch? Genji?

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I think he was in Overwatch proper when they went to capture Doomfist

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my theory is that the injuries sustained in that fight triggered his conflicting feelings about his identity and that's why he left Overwatch

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 3:25 PM

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@peak escarp when do you think Genji got his silver-green armor?

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I like to imagine it as a parting gift from Blackwatch, but I think his mental state was too unstable for him to become a proper agent at the time

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cause up until he met Zen, he continued to be a rage-driven killing machine

peak escarp Aug 4, 2018, 3:26 PM

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his bio says Overwatch gave him his body in exchange for taking down the Shimadas, so I think that once that task was complete, Overwatch upheld their side of the bargain and gave him a complete body

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and maybe for a while, the finished body made him feel better about his condition

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and then like I said, he gets badly damaged fighting Doomfist and he realizes he's still not "whole", and he leaves to find peace

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 3:29 PM

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hm, perhaps

timid eagle Aug 4, 2018, 5:19 PM

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It also makes me wonder how much of Genji's organic parts are still intact.

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 5:22 PM

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uh, he's still got his torso, his left arm, and his head

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some internal organs probably needed replacing

timid eagle Aug 4, 2018, 5:22 PM

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Like, we can tell easily with his Blackwatch skin, but with his current look, it looks like his left arm was replaced.

peak escarp Aug 4, 2018, 5:22 PM

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His legs down to mid-thigh

regal coyote Aug 4, 2018, 5:22 PM

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@dire timber I think after blackwatch freezed genji may have joined up as regular overwatch

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 5:22 PM

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there's no reason to think his left arm was amputated, imho

regal coyote Aug 4, 2018, 5:23 PM

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reason being his actions and such in the doomfist fight

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seems like he is overwatch proper instead

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frogot what but surely genji lost soem limbs

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 5:23 PM

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he lost his right arm

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and his legs

valid shell Aug 4, 2018, 5:24 PM

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Legs*

regal coyote Aug 4, 2018, 5:24 PM

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from same talk of AMA in some con, by chu... same time youg et "hanzo have human legs but weak ass ankles"

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 5:24 PM

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I swear I typed that

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yea, his legs

valid shell Aug 4, 2018, 5:24 PM

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I believe you.

peak escarp Aug 4, 2018, 5:24 PM

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Hanzo does not have prosthetic legs

regal coyote Aug 4, 2018, 5:24 PM

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he lost two of his legs, but his third leg is ok, according to chu

valid shell Aug 4, 2018, 5:24 PM

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He stores shurikens inside his right arm, and his left is identical, so it seems that it's at least heavily augmented.

peak escarp Aug 4, 2018, 5:25 PM

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Could just be metal plates to look consistent

valid shell Aug 4, 2018, 5:25 PM

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Could be.

timid eagle Aug 4, 2018, 5:25 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/boQKmuR.png

https://i.imgur.com/c7ZIq6v.png

For a comparison.

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 5:26 PM

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hm

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could be armored

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stylistics aren't the best indicator for lore

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cause people used those to argue that Pharah is a quadruple amputee

valid shell Aug 4, 2018, 5:28 PM

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If Young Genji's shurikens are canon, then it'

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Whoops.

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Then it's* possible they fold up, and only the surface of his left arm is replaced.

peak escarp Aug 4, 2018, 5:28 PM

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I've seen people try to argue that McCree has cybernetic organs because his body armor looks like it has pipes in it

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 5:32 PM

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I mean, we've never seen Genji use get shurikens from his left hand

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unless... hold on

limpid agate Aug 4, 2018, 5:45 PM

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In the anime

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He throws with both

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📎 unknown.png

valid shell Aug 4, 2018, 5:48 PM

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I wouldn't put it past Wolf Smoke to make a mistake for the sake of coolness, but as it stands that confirms his left hand and wrist are replaced.

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It actually looks like he's throwing kunai, not shuriken.

cunning ledge Aug 4, 2018, 6:00 PM

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he throws one with his left in Uprising too iirc

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but in that skin he's got a clearly human arm

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so it's not exactly what this discussion is

honest pulsar Aug 4, 2018, 7:05 PM

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It could just be a matter of his handedness left or right

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 7:22 PM

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hm, would be cool to get Chu's response on it

valid shell Aug 4, 2018, 8:01 PM

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"Both of Genji's arms are robotic but not his hands."

cunning ledge Aug 4, 2018, 8:06 PM

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~~"also reinhardt named them"~~

iron plume Aug 4, 2018, 8:17 PM

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they love cats

jaunty fox Aug 4, 2018, 8:40 PM

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Well Chu did indicate that Genji's "lower half" is still normal.

valid shell Aug 4, 2018, 9:04 PM

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Chu googles 'most popular japanese snack'.

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"Genji likes. Uh. Senbei."

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Chu collects his paycheque.

dire timber Aug 4, 2018, 9:08 PM

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what's with the sudden shitposting?

valid shell Aug 4, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Just my usual Chu resentment.

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Nothing sudden about it.

peak escarp Aug 4, 2018, 9:15 PM

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It's a little excessive

valid shell Aug 4, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Yeah well, bad day.

spark yacht Aug 4, 2018, 9:20 PM

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Why tracer needs her time-worpy thing to live?

worthy rose Aug 4, 2018, 9:21 PM

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that anchors her to the timeline

valid shell Aug 4, 2018, 9:21 PM

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@spark yacht https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27LPGldyY7M

YouTube

TH

Overwatch Tracer Origin Story (English)

Tracers Origin Story I have no rights on this video. Its from Blizzard Entertainment at Gamescom were they announced it.

▶ Play video

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Excuse the poor quality, Blizzard showed it at Blizzcon and there's no official version.

spark yacht Aug 4, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Ok thx

valid shell Aug 4, 2018, 9:22 PM

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yw

cunning ledge Aug 4, 2018, 9:50 PM

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Winston is a gorilla.

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Serious discussion here please

peak escarp Aug 4, 2018, 9:58 PM

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He likes peanut butter

valid shell Aug 4, 2018, 10:48 PM

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Were you actually curious, or were you bored and trying to get some cheap laughs.

inner bane Aug 4, 2018, 10:56 PM

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?*

honest pulsar Aug 4, 2018, 10:56 PM

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Oops sorry

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Didn't mean to do that

inner bane Aug 4, 2018, 10:57 PM

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nobody does

paper sonnet Aug 5, 2018, 7:33 AM

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Hammond is a Disney character.

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Serious discussion here please

limpid agate Aug 5, 2018, 7:38 AM

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Shitposting will result in a loss of access @paper sonnet

paper sonnet Aug 5, 2018, 7:40 AM

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K

worthy rose Aug 5, 2018, 8:54 AM

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pretty sure with the speed genji throws his shurikens his hands gotta be robotic as well

tepid abyss Aug 5, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Well I mean his shurikens are stored in his wrist, so yh

teal meadow Aug 5, 2018, 11:16 AM

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I can t find any way to put dva in the lore of overwatch

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Doid she simply joined because she is a good mecha fighter?

cunning ledge Aug 5, 2018, 11:18 AM

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she hasn't joined overwatch

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and probably won't any time soon

short scaffold Aug 5, 2018, 11:18 AM

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@cunning ledge Hey you know your lore and stuff right?

cunning ledge Aug 5, 2018, 11:18 AM

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ye

short scaffold Aug 5, 2018, 11:19 AM

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The overwatch timeline is progressing at the same rate as our own isn't it?

cunning ledge Aug 5, 2018, 11:19 AM

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well uh

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you'd think that

short scaffold Aug 5, 2018, 11:19 AM

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I thought I heard exactly that

cunning ledge Aug 5, 2018, 11:19 AM

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but the latest evidence of time actually passing in relation to real life is reflections

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as in, the first christmas event

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possibly also summer games is supposed to be an indication but that isn't really lore

short scaffold Aug 5, 2018, 11:20 AM

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Has their ever been a statement about time being synced or have I remembered that from somewhere else

cunning ledge Aug 5, 2018, 11:21 AM

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and there's all the things like hero bios never being updated (orisa, despite being released last year, is still one month old)

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i'm not sure if there's any direct quotes from anyone important about it

short scaffold Aug 5, 2018, 11:22 AM

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So basically the game lore is progressing at a rate of zero?

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or close to zero

cunning ledge Aug 5, 2018, 11:22 AM

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it's the reason many people are dissatisfied with the lore

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recall, the cinematic where winston tries to recreate overwatch, was two years ago

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since then we know that tracer joined and not a whole lot else

short scaffold Aug 5, 2018, 11:22 AM

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yeah that's the exact thing that got me thinking about this

cunning ledge Aug 5, 2018, 11:23 AM

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meanwhile we're getting past stuff like uprising, retribution, white dome, etc

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all the time

dire timber Aug 5, 2018, 11:24 AM

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@short scaffold there hasn't really been anything to indicate that Overwatch timeline progresses with real time

short scaffold Aug 5, 2018, 11:24 AM

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I think I know why I thought the timelines were synced

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Cause the launch of doomfist and orisa had in game events happening alongside them

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progressing at the same rate as the teasers and information about those heroes were released to us

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With all the numbani stuff like the robots and gauntlet

cunning ledge Aug 5, 2018, 11:25 AM

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the best guess for the outcome of recall right now imo is that it includes winston, mei, brigitte, tracer, and athena (and possibly genji???)

short scaffold Aug 5, 2018, 11:25 AM

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the poor lore of this game

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i feel bad for it

cunning ledge Aug 5, 2018, 11:26 AM

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but hey at least we can keep watching dragons and going "waow it looks cool"

dire timber Aug 5, 2018, 11:26 AM

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uh, why'd you mention brigitte but not rein?

cunning ledge Aug 5, 2018, 11:29 AM

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good question

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and i don't really have a good answer to that

autumn oxide Aug 5, 2018, 11:38 AM

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Sup guys

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Yo anyone there

iron plume Aug 5, 2018, 11:52 AM

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Hello, do you have a lore question or point? if not take it to general

shut vessel Aug 5, 2018, 1:58 PM

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How does Lucio’s archives skin “Equalizer” fit into the lore of Overwatch because I know it’s his original concept but how does it fit into the lore?

dire timber Aug 5, 2018, 2:01 PM

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we don't really know much about its canon status

shut vessel Aug 5, 2018, 2:02 PM

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Ok

dire timber Aug 5, 2018, 2:10 PM

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I honestly can't help but feel that Capoeira looks more probable

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but, eh

shut vessel Aug 5, 2018, 2:13 PM

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Oh

peak escarp Aug 5, 2018, 4:22 PM

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About the timeline - I believe it was progressing in realtime (or close to it) until Masquerade, and then it pretty much stopped

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the only forward progression of the story we had after that was Searching, but that only put it forward a few more months

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My best estimates have the current Overwatch timeline at about a year since Recall.

dire timber Aug 5, 2018, 4:23 PM

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meh, I was pretty sure it wasn't progressing as soon as Uprising

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it's just, no one listened

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🤷🏻

peak escarp Aug 5, 2018, 4:24 PM

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But it's hard to track that, since Blizzard isn't telling the story in a linear fashion

dire timber Aug 5, 2018, 4:24 PM

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even before Retribution, I could tell that we weren't meant to switch years in 2017

peak escarp Aug 5, 2018, 4:25 PM

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I mean, Masquerade was released in June but I think it takes place over January-February, due to them going to Carnivale in Venice

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so even that isn't synced

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it would be nice to get some in-game event based on an in-universe event (like WoW is getting)

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maybe Doomfist actually does start the second omnic crisis or something

dire timber Aug 5, 2018, 4:27 PM

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also, there's the fact that Overwatch was said to have fallen 5 years in the past, in 2016 and 2017 alike

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but again, no one listened

peak escarp Aug 5, 2018, 4:27 PM

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where did it say that?

dire timber Aug 5, 2018, 4:28 PM

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one was an interview before the release

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the other was a Chu tweet

peak escarp Aug 5, 2018, 4:29 PM

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oh

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I just chalk that up to using Recall as the anchor point in the timeline

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so stuff like Retribution can still be "8 years ago" even though the timeline has gone forward a year

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people were already confused about that until the debriefing clips came out and cleared it up

pearl gorge Aug 5, 2018, 5:39 PM

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lucio animated short when?

peak escarp Aug 5, 2018, 5:44 PM

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When they decide to give us one

dire timber Aug 5, 2018, 5:48 PM

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I predict that Pharah's next

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though it's worth keeping in mind that Honor and Glory seems to have taken absolutely everyone by surprise

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could be just me, but it feels like people weren't expecting a Rein short

peak escarp Aug 5, 2018, 5:57 PM

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I was surprised

pearl gorge Aug 5, 2018, 6:22 PM

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it's been said that we're getting an animated short for Lucio

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and also d.va

cunning ledge Aug 5, 2018, 6:22 PM

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said by who?

iron plume Aug 5, 2018, 6:22 PM

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inb4 stylosa

cunning ledge Aug 5, 2018, 6:22 PM

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oh no

pearl gorge Aug 5, 2018, 6:22 PM

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the same leaker who predicted the mei short lol

iron plume Aug 5, 2018, 6:22 PM

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eyeroll

cunning ledge Aug 5, 2018, 6:22 PM

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oh god not this again

iron plume Aug 5, 2018, 6:23 PM

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that's even worse than stylosa

pearl gorge Aug 5, 2018, 6:23 PM

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but still

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the new lucio and symm voicelines

cunning ledge Aug 5, 2018, 6:23 PM

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a lot of heroes got new voice lines

pearl gorge Aug 5, 2018, 6:24 PM

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about his father working for vishkar

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its gotta add up to something

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he barely has any lore

iron plume Aug 5, 2018, 6:24 PM

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neither does zen
or dva

pearl gorge Aug 5, 2018, 6:25 PM

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"and also d.va"

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said leik 3 mins ago

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i wish we got a zen short tho

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or a comic at least

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like how does he do the stuff he does now?

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what is the Iris?

peak escarp Aug 5, 2018, 6:27 PM

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Most of what he does is game mechanics

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Those abilities don't actually exist

pearl gorge Aug 5, 2018, 6:28 PM

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pretty sure they do

brisk harbor Aug 5, 2018, 6:28 PM

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As of now it is unconfirmed

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It's pretty unlikely that they'll be actually in lore

peak escarp Aug 5, 2018, 6:29 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/6kzu8h/why_blizzard_cant_explain_how_zens_orbs_work/

r/Overwatch - Why Blizzard can't explain how Zen's orbs work

0 votes and 14 comments so far on Reddit

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Jeff said in an interview for Wired that Zenyatta's orbs did not exist in canon

brisk harbor Aug 5, 2018, 6:32 PM

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Oh that

peak escarp Aug 5, 2018, 6:32 PM

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A lot of heroes's abilities either are not canon, or are canon but work differently

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For example, resurrect is not canon, and both Tactical Visor and Infrasight work differently than they do in the game

brisk harbor Aug 5, 2018, 6:33 PM

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Would zens hand guns be canon or no

iron plume Aug 5, 2018, 6:36 PM

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we know nothing of him

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we saw him fling snowballs in reflections

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but in game he doesn't physically launch anything, they're just energy projections
his balls stay circling around him

dire timber Aug 5, 2018, 6:50 PM

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@pearl gorge source for that leak of yours?

valid shell Aug 5, 2018, 6:50 PM

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I wouldn't bother.

dire timber Aug 5, 2018, 6:50 PM

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the whole Mei prediction was on point (though I kinda suspect that it was made retroactively - someone pretending that they predicted it after the fact)

valid shell Aug 5, 2018, 6:51 PM

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It's probably that same grainy artifact-filled screenshot from 4chan that we've seen dozens of times since August last year.

dire timber Aug 5, 2018, 6:52 PM

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I know that there was a "Blizzileaks" post about the Mei short, and about "Anchora", a supposed working name for Orisa

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a screenshot of one

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but then I searched the archive, and couldn't find anything of the sort

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which makes me feel like it was a fake, written after Mei short and Orisa already released presenting itself as "look at this super real leak from before that"

pearl gorge Aug 5, 2018, 6:56 PM

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it was that 4chan leaker

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i forget the source tho

valid shell Aug 5, 2018, 7:20 PM

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Anybody can make a convincing 'leak' built on conjecture.

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Treating it as gospel is foolish.

peak escarp Aug 5, 2018, 7:28 PM

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Just take something everyone wants and says it's coming soon

worthy rose Aug 5, 2018, 8:43 PM

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A leak with credible evidence can make a difference though

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The Anchora person was correct

valid shell Aug 5, 2018, 8:48 PM

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@dire timber http://i.imgur.com/m5oe3fO.png

Imgur

This "leak" from January 9th may be more accurate than it originally seemed...

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The Anchora leak was true, but this half-baked 'lol i forget wehre i read it but lucio short confirmed' leak is likely fake, and not worth discussing.

dire timber Aug 5, 2018, 8:54 PM

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the thing is, can we confirm it was posted in January?

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cause I was trying to look for this post using 4chan archives

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but it doesn't seem to actually exist

valid shell Aug 5, 2018, 8:56 PM

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The reddit post was from February.

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Which is still 6 months before Rise and Shine.

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Regardless of when the leak was actually posted on 4chan.

limpid agate Aug 5, 2018, 9:10 PM

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@dire timber The post appears to have been wiped from Fireden archives

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He made 2 other posts, same tripcode so it was the same user

📎 b8uBqVp.png

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And the biggest reason why I was shouting

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The leak was deconfirmed

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Because 2 weeks before the event dropped

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He was wrong about the contents and the scope of it

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Yet somehow knew the precise details of Mei's short and Orisa.

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Like, the leak was straight up

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Giving misinformation

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The entire thing it said about LNY was wrong

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And Anchora could be chalked up to coincidence

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But the fact that it got Mei's short down exactly

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Is what ended up confirming it

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Leaks in general are just a mess to deal with.

peak escarp Aug 5, 2018, 9:24 PM

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I wouldn't call that exact

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The specifics were slightly off

limpid agate Aug 5, 2018, 10:22 PM

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It got the parts that were considered impossible right

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Mei not being found, Snowball dying and Winston's Recall reaching her and waking her up.

peak escarp Aug 5, 2018, 10:41 PM

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Yeah

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I'm just being picky

worthy rose Aug 5, 2018, 10:51 PM

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YOO

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THE WINSTON SKIN IS ACTUALLY LIT

cunning ledge Aug 5, 2018, 10:52 PM

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I agree