#lore-discussion

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worthy rose
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How the heck would he survive in junkertown?

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Wouldnt the people just kill him?

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perhaps hammond's pod was the "spider tank" everyone wanted

rancid totem
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In his weoponized pod and a bad ass mccree hat and a stick of wheat in his houth

worthy rose
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And i thought queen was the champion

rancid totem
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HE IS THE QUEEENNN

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I KNEW IT

valid shell
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The Queen was a former champion. @worthy rose

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Hammond is the current champion.

dire timber
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no shitposting

rancid totem
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NO

valid shell
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Stop.

rancid totem
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Ok

worthy rose
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I wonder if he can talk

rancid totem
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Do you think he will be able to climb on walls like a spider

worthy rose
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@rancid totem if you wanna talk gameplay go to the gameplay channel

rancid totem
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Or roll up walla

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Ok

worthy rose
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Which is just "overwatch discussion"

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Omg his mech is an oversized weaponised hamster ball

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Why didnt i see that?

valid shell
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Oh my God.

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Guys.

white cobalt
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The cage, the carrot, the vents and people not worried about a rodent

worthy rose
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Haha funny one binge โœŠโœŠ

white cobalt
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That's huh a stretch

valid shell
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Considering what we now know the Champion is?

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How tf is it a stretch.

worthy rose
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I wanna know how he built it

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Also the people in ow discussion think its a joke

white cobalt
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Because they want a chimp/cat

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and this hero fits with everything

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btw isn't Hammond the one who was disturbing the monkeys in HLC?

worthy rose
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I do have another question

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Why did the teasers show a monkey on the wall?

white cobalt
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red herring probs

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or mentions to HLC

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same as the footprints in HLC

valid shell
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@white cobalt That was Simon.

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Not Hammond.

worthy rose
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Ok, hero 29 junker queen then

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Hammond, then queen. Perfect lineup

valid shell
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@worthy rose The teaser showed monkeys AND dogs.

worthy rose
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Once queen and hammond are out more new people can come in

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Unless they give us max and lynx etc

white cobalt
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2 heroes from junker? I doubt so much

worthy rose
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I dont

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Weve had 3 heroes from talon

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2 more junkers wouldnt hurt

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New faction

valid shell
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Talon is international.

worthy rose
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Ok?

valid shell
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Junkers are Australian.

worthy rose
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Well hammond isnt australian

white cobalt
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I think Junkerqueen gonna be like a introduction to Hammond

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How she was defeated

worthy rose
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3 aussie heroes is fine

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I mean we do have 3 american heroes

last inlet
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It's an American company, that'll happen

dire timber
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@white cobalt nothing about Hammond being in any way involved in the uprising

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people are just making it up

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also, <@&397922982632226816>, we probably need @worthy rose taken out of here

worthy rose
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The twitter does says
"champion revealed"

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And we know queen was champ but i guess this means that she was beat by hammond

dire timber
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I mean, not really beat

worthy rose
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Defeated then

dire timber
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she became a champion, and then became the Queen

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and ever since then, there were other champions

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not because they defeated her

worthy rose
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Source?

dire timber
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but because there were other championships since, in which the Queen didn't necessarily take part

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I mean, Queens's "today we find a new champion" is pretty indicative, isn't it?

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so far there's no indication that the Queen was ever beaten

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it's just as likely that she simply stopped participating

half shell
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Also it would imply that this is not the new "hero" maybe?

valid shell
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What.

worthy rose
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?

half shell
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because they are called hero's in overwatch not champions right?

worthy rose
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Read the conversation we just had

valid shell
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They're not called Soldiers.

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But we have several soldiers.

white cobalt
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Champion as in Champion in Junkertown's mecha fights.

half shell
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ah well nvm, that's not what I mean but whatever

worthy rose
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Then what do you mean?

valid shell
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Do you think Blizzard accidentally announced a LoL champ?

worthy rose
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I agree

half shell
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No I mean Hammond could be a champion from another hero. So junkerqueen could be the 'Hero', but hammond is just one of her abilities(?)

dire timber
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that makes no sense

worthy rose
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^

half shell
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I know it's very farfetched

last inlet
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Summoner Queen

half shell
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I mean the poster with junkerqueen design is now fully visible in the new reveal

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It could work like smash bros with pokemon trainer, you can switch pokemon as one of the abilities

white cobalt
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Oh wait i didn't noticed the change in background

worthy rose
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Hammond looks a little "big" to be an ability

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I mean that thing we saw looks like a highlight intro for him

quasi siren
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Hes like the same size as torb

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Yeah that was definitely a highlight intro

worthy rose
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Are junkrat and roadhog in a relationship?

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they just agreed to share the spoils

valid shell
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@worthy rose Just partners in crime.

worthy rose
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Oh

valid shell
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Disappointed?

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And honestly, I wouldn't mind it if Hammond was mute, but the Queen spoke through his mech's speakers as his handler.

terse oak
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Shipping is NOT canon

valid shell
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And maybe appeared in his victory poses.

worthy rose
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But

valid shell
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Because at this point, I seriously doubt she'll ever be playable.

worthy rose
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I want her as her own hero

valid shell
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As much as thirsty boys want her to step on them.

white cobalt
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i dont mind about being mute, im expecting squeaking sounds like bastion.

worthy rose
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Not making her a hero would be a wasted opportunity

dire timber
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@valid shell you keep repeating that phrase

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why?

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what's the problem with wishing for Junkertown Queen to be a hero, exactly?

valid shell
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A third Australian.

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When many countries - and some continents - have nothing.

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And don't use our three Americans as an excuse, because that's obviously already disappointing.

vivid osprey
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Ehh

valid shell
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Ehh?

dire timber
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I mean, sure, you can postpone her until we get more people from other places

vivid osprey
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๐Ÿ‘.

dire timber
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but I think it'd still be cool to have her

valid shell
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Well, yeah.

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It would be cool to have 100+ heroes.

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But they're probably a finite resource.

cunning ledge
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yo what the actual fuck blizzard

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i'm not even mad

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i can't be

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HE'S GOT THE FUCKIN WINSTON HEAD PLATE

white cobalt
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i mean everything fits

cunning ledge
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IT'S GOTTA MEAN SOMETHING

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I HECKIN KNEW IT

valid shell
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@cunning ledge I like this a lot better than another monkey.

cunning ledge
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same

valid shell
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Brigitte was too safe. Let's get something weird.

cunning ledge
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it's so much better

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i'm honestly wondering if he actually talks though

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or if it's just squeaks

valid shell
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Although he does seem alarmingly similar to Battleborn's penguin character.

cunning ledge
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I was very doubtful that they would do another non talking hero

worthy rose
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Why dont you like the idea of a 3rd aussie hero?

half shell
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guys check this out:

cunning ledge
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if you're making that connection then I'd say league of legends had the "small cute animal in giant battle mech suit" thing first

valid shell
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@worthy rose I just explained why.

half shell
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I don't think my theory is too farfetched

valid shell
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I have nothing against Australians, but when other countries don't even have ONE hero, Australia can sit pretty on their duo.

worthy rose
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Just because other countries dont have a hero doesnt mean we cant have a 3rd aussie

valid shell
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I would react the same about a third Japanese hero, or third Swede.

modest cove
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How long until its okay to add a third Australian? Until every country gets one?

valid shell
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At least until every major region.

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We still don't have a SE Asian hero.

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Or a Caribbean.

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We only have one South American.

worthy rose
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Ok?

valid shell
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Why are you confused.

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What am I not being clear about.

worthy rose
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You are clear

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I just dont think it matters

last inlet
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Well he does

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Square one

valid shell
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Tell that to countries who might as well not exist in media.

worthy rose
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Mhm

last inlet
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I just don't care about junkerqueen

worthy rose
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Well i do

last inlet
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I mean, why another junker

worthy rose
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Square one

valid shell
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The game boats diversity, not "Americans vs. Australians."

last inlet
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Not just another aussie

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But from the same city, even

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At least Hamsterball is from space

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Who had the idea of a Caribbean lady hero? Like, maybe from Haiti

valid shell
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Me.

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Since no black female hero yet.

severe oxide
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Fuck Australia forever tbh

worthy rose
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Isnt road from new zealand?

cunning ledge
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not confirmed explicitly yet

severe oxide
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No more mad Max shit pls

cunning ledge
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but heavily implied

valid shell
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Suspected, but it still says Australia on his card.

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'Sup @limpid agate

worthy rose
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Jewvia welcome to the party

cunning ledge
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I think it's more likely that he was born there but moved to Australia pretty early on because in his bio it implies he considers Australia his home

severe oxide
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Less Aussies, more rodents

limpid agate
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Me: Hammond can't possibly be a monkey. Hes like a cat or a rabbit or some other animal
Everyone else: You're crazy Jewvia, he has to be a monkey. Whats that? No one cares he went missing? Nah, youre crazy, chimpanzees are small harmless animals that dont shit on the drapes and rip peoples faces off, right?

valid shell
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I was on your side, dawg.

limpid agate
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Yes you and literally no one else

valid shell
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Holla.

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Anyways.

white cobalt
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lel

worthy rose
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Lolo

cunning ledge
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for the record I had no strong opinion one way or another

severe oxide
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I thought it would be a raccoon or a lemur or something like that

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Like a red panda

valid shell
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I like hamster Hammond so much better than a chimp anyways. Reminds me of the Chua from Wildstar RIP.

worthy rose
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Anywayssss. Road name is mako, he has an islander skin called toa

last inlet
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@limpid agate rude, I thought you had a great point :c

worthy rose
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And i remember chu said something about him owning a kunekune?

last inlet
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K

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Still gotta wait for actual confirmation there

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Because God knows we can't trust anyone

worthy rose
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Consider that a kunekune is a pig native from new zealand too

severe oxide
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What if Hammond is just his codename, his real name is Emre Sarioglu

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Formerly known as Liao

cunning ledge
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the most important part is that the hamster has the metal head plate thing tho

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like Winston

last inlet
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His mech is called soundquake

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Or whatever

cunning ledge
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the mech is called the Wrecking Ball tho

severe oxide
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Also goes by whatever that other name was in Petra

last inlet
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I can't even meme properly

worthy rose
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Maybe the head plate increases uh cognitive functions or whatever

lean silo
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i just saw the video and im fucking dead

severe oxide
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Yep

white cobalt
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also this make him a 10+ years old hamster?

cunning ledge
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Hamid Faisal @severe oxide

severe oxide
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That

lean silo
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yeah this hamster is ancient

cunning ledge
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And/or Blaise

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And/or that one other name

lean silo
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I KNEW he wouldn't be a chimp

worthy rose
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Is there gonna be outrage overr killing a hamster?

severe oxide
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Someone google hamster lifespan please

valid shell
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The forehead plate is probably to operate on their brains.

last inlet
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3 years

lean silo
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he probably just pops out and runs back for another one in his death anim

cunning ledge
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2-3 years

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depending on exact species

severe oxide
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What about guinea pigs

valid shell
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He probably just ejects out of his mech.

cunning ledge
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4-8 years

lean silo
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but yeah i was saying that the lack of concern for hammond's disappearance had to be because he was unimportant lmao

last inlet
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I swear, if they try to ret con his species because of his age, I'll laugh

cunning ledge
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genetic modification tho

worthy rose
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He was laughing

last inlet
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Yeah they could easily go with that, that's what I'm saying kinda

worthy rose
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There is a bit of hooman in him

severe oxide
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Common misconception, he's actually a very small bear

last inlet
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But if they make it complicated, I won't be surprised

lean silo
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guys

severe oxide
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Why retcon when you can say "because sci-fi"

dire timber
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ancient hamster

severe oxide
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Like, forreal

lean silo
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search hamster from:.nevermore#5160 in the discord search

limpid agate
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Gonna be honest, when I first saw the teaser

lean silo
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i called this days ago

last inlet
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@severe oxide because Michael Chu

limpid agate
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I was confused what animal he was

lean silo
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god damn DAYS ago

limpid agate
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I forgot Hamsters existed

severe oxide
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They could have said "because sci-fi" with so many things

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Yet they retcon

lean silo
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LOL Jewvia

white cobalt
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@limpid agate We talked about hamster

last inlet
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@limpid agate dude

cunning ledge
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this is cyberbullying

white cobalt
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but was discarded because "too tiny"

worthy rose
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Ohhhh man i wouldnt be able to bare seeing him in danger

severe oxide
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Will lucioball be played with hammonds now

last inlet
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@worthy rose "bear" was right

worthy rose
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I thought i was being silly there

last inlet
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Nope :)

severe oxide
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Bear is a funny verb

last inlet
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I love bears

severe oxide
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Bear hero when

worthy rose
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Aw now i wish hammond was a bear

severe oxide
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Do we know Hammond's gender for certain?

white cobalt
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nope

worthy rose
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Masculine name

lean silo
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its a hamster

cunning ledge
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so I'm guessing Hammond is actually inside the mech the whole time and only pops out the top for highlight intros and maybe emotes

severe oxide
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Female, gonna call it

lean silo
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who gives a flying fuck

severe oxide
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Balance

cunning ledge
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^

limpid agate
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Hammond is a he

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Read the emails

lean silo
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also yeah im pretty sure

severe oxide
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Aight

lean silo
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jewvia beat me to it

valid shell
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@severe oxide The ratio is balanced at the moment anyways.

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Male or female would unbalance it.

worthy rose
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If he talks i bet he will be voiced by a girl

limpid agate
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13 males, 13 female, 1 Bastion

severe oxide
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It's a balance within the animal subcategory

valid shell
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I guess that's true.

severe oxide
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Just like the omnic subcategory is balanced

valid shell
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Point taken.

limpid agate
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For just humans its

worthy rose
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If you add lynx would he join bastion or create a new ratio?

limpid agate
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11 males 12 females

severe oxide
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The Australian subcategory isn't balanced though

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Make 2 more female Aussies

valid shell
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Kill me.

limpid agate
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@worthy rose Bastion is an it. Lynx is a they. I'd just put them together but someone would get mad at me

cunning ledge
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American subcategory is also way off

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smh blizzard

dire timber
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stop

severe oxide
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Do Aussies count as humans?

valid shell
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"BUT WAHTS TEH PROBLEM WITH THREE HEROES FRUM 1 COUNTRY"

worthy rose
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Hey dont mock me

limpid agate
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But yeah

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Hammond is Wrecking ball

valid shell
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Yup.

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He's the Hampion.

limpid agate
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No way around it ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

worthy rose
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So the question still remains

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How did he build it?

limpid agate
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Maybe he didnt

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Winston did

severe oxide
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American voice:"but you see, McCree, Soldier and Reaper are from different states, which are just as diverse as countries if you think about it"

cunning ledge
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I like the idea that he built it out of the escape pod

last inlet
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I'm sure his intro video will be totally edifying

limpid agate
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He didn't Sneak on Winstons pod

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He might have had Winstons help

cunning ledge
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and the queen helped him add guns, legs, etc

worthy rose
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He doesnt have hands for building

valid shell
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Yeah, if the escape pod was already made, Hammond would only have to have fashioned the grappling hook.

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And once he's planetside, the Junkers weaponized him.

last inlet
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@severe oxide I just go with the fact that Blizzard is an American company, and y'all are lucky its just 3

cunning ledge
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I also think the circle in the middle will launch a grappling hook with one ability

severe oxide
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Loving the y'all

cunning ledge
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just somehow different to hog and widowmaker

valid shell
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Pulls him to an enemy.

last inlet
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It's ingrained

valid shell
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Sorted.

worthy rose
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I wanted the circle to be a laser

cunning ledge
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exactly

last inlet
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The y'all

severe oxide
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Y'all should be universal, all English speaking people should adopt it

last inlet
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Tbh

valid shell
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Widow pulls herself to geometry, Roadhog pulls enemies to him, Brigitte knocks enemies back, Hammond pulls himself to enemies.

last inlet
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How believable is that though

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Like, how big is the mech

severe oxide
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Orisa pulls anyone anywhere

last inlet
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Pullverwatch

valid shell
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As believable as Roadhog hooking and pulling a military grade Korean mech with a nuclear reactor.

cunning ledge
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so how do you guys think Hammond being Wrecking Ball fits in with the Queen also apparently being the mech champion

valid shell
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The queen is a FORMER champion.

worthy rose
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Doomfist was originally gonna be able to throw people and rocks

valid shell
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Not THE champion.

cunning ledge
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ah

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that makes sense then

severe oxide
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As believable as roadhog sticking a bigass iron hook through people's bellies without murdering them instantly

last inlet
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Ooh give him mini boosters

cunning ledge
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(genji used to be able to one shot melee from the back)

severe oxide
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Make him Dva but a hamster

worthy rose
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Rolling mode

cunning ledge
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and we all know how annoying that would be

last inlet
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So when he pulls himself, he can bop people)

valid shell
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"Today we find a new champion!" Sounds like the Queen isn't worried about being dethroned.

worthy rose
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Sonic ball into people

severe oxide
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Why would she care she's the Queen

cunning ledge
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you say that, but I have a feeling that those lines were removed for a reason now

valid shell
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She became Queen because of her scrapyard performance, but being a champion and being king/queen aren't synonymous.

last inlet
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spin noises

severe oxide
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She's above

cunning ledge
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also yeah what veex said

valid shell
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So Hammond might just be her dragon.

worthy rose
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But whose the princess?

valid shell
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Like how the Grandmaster has the Hulk in Ragnarok.

cunning ledge
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pretty good analogy actually

limpid agate
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Yeah I dont see Hammond trying to usurp the Queen in an act of Orcish Mak'gora either

worthy rose
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Someone mentioned earlier hammond potentially being able to cling to walls like a spider

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Basically a rolly bastion

valid shell
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Genji initially had a 'wall cling' ability.

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So I could see them resurrecting that.

worthy rose
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Tbh hammond looks easy to hit

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Huge rolling ball

valid shell
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If he's a tank, that's probably the point.

worthy rose
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300 health, all armor

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Thats what id want

valid shell
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Same.

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Maybe a bump to armor in ball form to compensate for his lack of offensive abilities.

worthy rose
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As a passive?

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Also his guns appear similar to dvas

valid shell
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They actually

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Kind of look like the OR-14 head-guns.

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Lemme look again.

dapper egret
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I want his hook arm to cling to walls and let him swing around like a pendulum/wrecking ball

valid shell
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@dapper egret Dang.

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Now that's thematic.

cunning ledge
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wow I hope that's an ability now

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also the ult is totally just rolling along at ramming speed

gilded gulch
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wtf its a hamster

cunning ledge
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the mother of all cc

worthy rose
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I think he will just roll into people

valid shell
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Hm.

gilded gulch
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i suggested this and everyone thought i was retarded

dapper egret
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Do you think those events are linked or did they both just happen

limpid agate
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Wow

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The true Junker way

valid shell
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They don't look TOO similar, but I would like it if they were salvaged from a chunked 14.

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Although

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That calls into question why the OR14 in H&G didn't just pop Reinhardt in the mouth.

worthy rose
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Plot.

golden urchin
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is that a flame thrower

valid shell
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Nah.

limpid agate
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I complained about that already.

valid shell
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He shoots bullets.

worthy rose
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Same reason why reaper doesnt just kill people instead of gloating all the time

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Plot armour

valid shell
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The muzzle looks like a Bastion AR.

novel quarry
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Yall think Hammond is gonna be winston's arch nemesis?
Maybe they'll create a campaign where Hammond kidnaps Tracer, and holds her hostage for all of Winston's peanut butter

worthy rose
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Same model perhaps, development wise

golden urchin
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everything makes sense, why he was able to fit into the vents

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he couldโ€™ve have been a chimp because there were already chimps like Susan

limpid agate
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@novel quarry I think they were friends

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And Winston helped him escape

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Because, you know

worthy rose
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Maybe junkertown has some scrapped bastions around

limpid agate
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Hammond cant build an escape pod

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Because hes a hamster

novel quarry
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hm...

golden urchin
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he had a wrench and a toolbox in his room

novel quarry
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^

worthy rose
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He wouldnt be able to pick that up

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Hes a hamster

golden urchin
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leave him alone

valid shell
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If Winston and Hammond were friends, Winston would have let him inside his own pod.

dense estuary
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uh so Overwatch has Chua now.

valid shell
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He's a hamster.

novel quarry
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Hammond must be pretty smart
he would have made some sort of contraption that allowed him to make contraptions

limpid agate
worthy rose
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He cant make anything

limpid agate
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Clearer poster

worthy rose
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Hes a hamster.

valid shell
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@dense estuary I was asking earlier if any of the Wildstar team went back to Blizzard after it died.

golden urchin
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and it says meet the champion

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he really is wrecking ball

novel quarry
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CoolSnow, you're so closed minded

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I bet you thought Hammond was a monkey before all this

worthy rose
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Queen looking like lightning tracer over ther

novel quarry
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What a rookie

golden urchin
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kiddo everyone thought Hammond was a monkwy

worthy rose
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queen has mohawk

limpid agate
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@novel quarry Dont you dare start getting into that.

dense estuary
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My first thought was those devil hamsters Binge XD

limpid agate
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90% of the people here called me crazy for saying he's a not monkey, and I guarantee you are probably in that group.

novel quarry
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Maybe Hammond can control things with his mind

golden urchin
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also the posters and stuff is rialto

limpid agate
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Shitposting will result in a loss of access

golden urchin
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i have proof

limpid agate
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@golden urchin We know its Rialto with KR assets

golden urchin
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yuh

dense estuary
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Maybe we will get more than a 10sec Vine later today

worthy rose
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Well

limpid agate
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@dense estuary PTR in 80 minutes

valid shell
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We might get him on the PTR later today.

worthy rose
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It was a highlight intro most likely

golden urchin
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yeah

novel quarry
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Wait what
I was just kidding
Literally everyone thought he was a monkey lmao

golden urchin
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he had a carrot in his room

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i feel so dumb

novel quarry
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right

golden urchin
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everyone knew his cage was too small for a monkey

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everything makes so much sense now

limpid agate
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Its almost like Jewvia isnt as crazy as yall think

worthy rose
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Can hamsters eat bananas?

limpid agate
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No

golden urchin
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yes

novel quarry
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Honestly, Hammond sounded like a monkey name to me, so I figured he was a monkey

limpid agate
#

I think thats a clue

#

That Winston helped him

#

Carrots are Hamster snacks though

worthy rose
#

I know hamsters can eat carrots

novel quarry
#

Why can't Hamsters eat bananas

#

They're not hard to eat

dense estuary
#

because they do not like them?

limpid agate
#

I mean, theres nothing stopping you from feeding a banana to a hmaster

modest cove
#

Because they dont have thumbs to peel them

novel quarry
#

They're softer than carrots

#

see^

worthy rose
#

Oh god binge

golden urchin
#

it said they can only eat a little

valid shell
#

Hamsters live that banana life.

novel quarry
#

Binge is the only one here on my level right now

last inlet
#

Wait is the teasers in Rialto?

golden urchin
#

but guinea pigs love bananas

dense estuary
#

But yes I am going to call this little bugger a a Lost Chua for now ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

golden urchin
#

he looks like teemo

#

i love him

valid shell
#

Dude, I think like every herbivore loves bananas.

last inlet
#

Is he our Italian hero

limpid agate
#

@last inlet The map is physically Rialto, but it is designed to look like Kings Row

worthy rose
#

Hamsters can have small pieces of bananas a day

golden urchin
#

no heโ€™s space hero my kiddo

limpid agate
#

ALso, he is Wrecking Ball

#

He's your third Junker

last inlet
#

Greaaaaat

worthy rose
#

But they cant eat them fully like how a monkey does

golden urchin
#

everyone wanted a junker, but not a monkey

last inlet
#

Winston was space hero

golden urchin
#

good job blizzard

dense estuary
#

I will resist any comments about him coming in like a wrecking ball

valid shell
#

Ecks dee.

worthy rose
#

Baby you are my.......wrecking ballll!

last inlet
#

Now we have both two space heroes and another junker

white cobalt
#

So this drops JunkerQueen for the next hero?

valid shell
#

I would think so.

novel quarry
#

"moon sweet home!"

limpid agate
#

Maybe

last inlet
#

Junker queen is cancelled

whole steeple
#

why hamster tho?

valid shell
#

Because?

last inlet
#

Big question

limpid agate
#

But we know how much Blizzard likes releasing too many of one type of hero

whole steeple
#

small anserw

worthy rose
#

Nono, i still think queen can be a hero eventually

whole steeple
#

literally

valid shell
#

We already have an ape, so Blizzard went a different route.

novel quarry
#

300 dps

worthy rose
#

Just not now it seems

last inlet
#

At this point it's just because "shit they figured out the cat thing"

dense estuary
#

Stop, HamsterTime.

white cobalt
#

Right now Junkerqueen to Hammond is like Efi to Orisa

limpid agate
#

See 3/5 post launch heroes being Talon (2 back to back), 2 supports back to back, 2 Numbani tied Africans back to back

whole steeple
#

i wish we had a queen as a playable charachters

limpid agate
#

I wouldnt put it past them to say

#

Hey lets make the queen

worthy rose
#

Hammond and queen

valid shell
#

Hammond has been named Hammond for a year now.

limpid agate
#

I dont want 4 Junkers

whole steeple
#

is it confirmed that hamster is dps?

worthy rose
#

Get it out of the wayyy

limpid agate
#

But it wouldnt be a surprise

modest cove
#

I think the one theory that we can agree is 100% wrong is 2 heroes in one day. There is no reason for them to do that

novel quarry
#

Why don't you want 4 junkers

valid shell
#

@whole steeple We don't know his role.

novel quarry
#

what does it matter

next wave
#

I hope that Hammond will be the leader of Talon

worthy rose
#

If road is indeed from new zealand

novel quarry
#

We only have 2 of them

last inlet
#

Because God, that's boring

valid shell
#

@novel quarry Because there's a shitload of countries with no heroes?

limpid agate
#

@next wave He wont be.

golden urchin
#

heโ€™s,,,, not?

valid shell
#

Why do I have to keep explaining this?

whole steeple
#

@valid shell oh okay. i saw few people talking abt it so

limpid agate
#

Hes the Champion of Junkertown

worthy rose
#

Maybe queen would be an ok release?

last inlet
#

Let's put the country argument away for now

worthy rose
#

Cause that would mean there would be 2 aussie heroes and not 3

novel quarry
#

I guess if you care about representation

last inlet
#

It's just, Junkers aren't even that important

golden urchin
#

how

modest cove
#

There are a shitload of planets with no heroes. No more heroes from earth or moon /s

limpid agate
#

We have too many Junkers

#

Is the problem

valid shell
#

Blizzard has literally cited representation and diversity as a core tenant of Overwatch.

golden urchin
#

thereโ€™s 2 so far

limpid agate
#

They have nothing to do with the rest of the world

valid shell
#

There's no 'putting it away'.

golden urchin
#

????

#

and?

limpid agate
#

There's 3

golden urchin
#

thereโ€™s gonna be 3 junkers out of28 heroes

limpid agate
#

Hammond is the 3rd

novel quarry
#

I'm glad they've represented the moon twice then

last inlet
#

@valid shell I mean that, while they're pretty much the same thing, being a Junker doesn't mean you're Aussie

modest cove
#

What if junkers become really important to the lore somehow?

limpid agate
#

We have 3 Junkers

novel quarry
#

Good job blizzard

worthy rose
#

What makes you a junker?

limpid agate
#

And zero people acting on the Petras act to take down Overwatch

valid shell
#

We have 3 Junkers, 2 Australians, and 2 moon animals.

#

We're fine.

#

We don't need the Queen.

last inlet
#

I agree

novel quarry
#

Nah, I want the queen

valid shell
#

Why?

novel quarry
#

I want more female characters

golden urchin
#

and thereโ€™s plenty of non overwatch characters.

valid shell
#

What.

last inlet
#

We've got plenty

unborn depot
#

Micheal Chu is very important to the lore

golden urchin
#

and road hog isnโ€™t Australian

last inlet
#

Like

whole steeple
#

queen. pretty. badass. need

valid shell
#

There's even male:female characters.

worthy rose
#

I really want them to confirm roads nationality

modest cove
#

Queen looks cool. Why isnt that a good enough reason to want a hero?

golden urchin
#

new zeland lmao

last inlet
#

And more female humans than male

golden urchin
#

itโ€™s been confirmed

valid shell
#

Do I need to explain this again.

worthy rose
#

@golden urchin suspected and not confirmed though

limpid agate
#

@modest cove Too many Junkers is the only problem

golden urchin
#

umm no

worthy rose
#

When was it confirmed?

novel quarry
#

lol I guess I don't want more female characters
I just think the junker queen is hot

modest cove
#

@limpid agate that's a fine argument but people are saying no one should even WANT a queen

valid shell
#

We already have two Australians and three Junkers, and still no Caribbean hero, or SE Asian hero, or a second South American, or a fucking Canadian

modest cove
#

People are naturally going to want her as a hero

worthy rose
#

Whatโ€™s the lore of junk rat

valid shell
#

@novel quarry Thank you for being honest at least.

worthy rose
#

@worthy rose crazy junker boi

limpid agate
valid shell
#

Instead of 'idk she just looks cool lol' when everyone actually just wants to smash her.

limpid agate
#

Click on Junkrat

#

Then click on story

last inlet
#

SE Asia would be where?

worthy rose
#

Thx

whole steeple
#

i wish d.va had more lore

last inlet
#

What countries

worthy rose
#

Binge, you saying you wouldnt smashhhhh?

novel quarry
#

lol yeah, nationality doesn't matter to me so much, I just like cool characters
and I think junkrat and especially roadhog are really cool

limpid agate
#

We have Sym as an Indian

valid shell
#

She's pixels.

limpid agate
#

Which is SE Asia

golden urchin
#

fheees a lot of heroes that have no direct impact on overwatch

#

like lucio, dva sym

#

theres*

limpid agate
#

@golden urchin Theres too many. They need to start making more heroes that matter

modest cove
#

One person says "idk I think she's hot" and suddenly it becomes "everyone wants to smash her"

limpid agate
#

Rather than just make more that dont

#

Especially when theyre not making the ones in game already mean anything

novel quarry
#

I really don't understand that "heroes that matter" mindset

limpid agate
#

Since launch, only Bastion became more important

golden urchin
#

what if the junkers are GOING to matter

limpid agate
#

Everyone else is still unrelated to everything else

worthy rose
#

judge someone not by their nationality but by them as a person

last inlet
#

Because this game made the decision to have lore

golden urchin
#

bastion is only related to torb

#

heโ€™s not that important

last inlet
#

One would think they'd do something with it

limpid agate
#

Bastion is related to Torb and implied to join Winstons Overwatch

white cobalt
#

Are you guys betting on Talon for November reveal?

golden urchin
#

are you for real

whole steeple
#

well the lore didnt really go anywhere in those years

golden urchin
#

thatโ€™s cool

novel quarry
#

The game itself is hardly an extension of the lore though
that's what the comics and stuff are for

last inlet
#

How about a new guy we've never seen

valid shell
#

We still need a Malaysian/Thai/Vietnamese/Indonesian/Taiwanese hero.

last inlet
#

And he joins nuOW

limpid agate
#

Thailand, Iraq, Greece, Italy, Jordan

worthy rose
#

need

novel quarry
#

The most lore we get from the game is Lucio and Symetra being mean to each other

limpid agate
#

At least one of these countries needs a hero

modest cove
#

Southeast Asian working with the shimadas

last inlet
#

I want a Greek or Italian

valid shell
#

We've needed a Greek hero since launch.

golden urchin
#

and you know,,, the lore events

#

why do we need a Greek hero

last inlet
#

Haitian idea with Creole voice lines was also good idea binge

whole steeple
#

greecee has a map

modest cove
#

I'm surprised I dont hear much clamoring for a filipino hero. Filipinos have a lot of cultural pride

whole steeple
valid shell
#

@golden urchin Because we've had a Greek map since launch with no hero attached to it.

worthy rose
#

Ich mochte ein neue uk held

last inlet
#

Oof

#

No

limpid agate
#

Weve had a greek map that had no reason to exist until Petra

#

And now its just another misc digsite

last inlet
#

Tracer is enough

limpid agate
#

Like Ayutthaya

#

And Petra

last inlet
#

Maybe a Scot

limpid agate
#

And its still mostly unrelated

#

@last inlet McCloud would be nice

golden urchin
#

yet

worthy rose
#

Good job on figuring out what i said ๐Ÿ–’๐Ÿ–’

last inlet
#

@limpid agate that or McCleod

limpid agate
worthy rose
#

Futuristic braveheart

last inlet
#

@worthy rose bits and pieces, had to figure it out

novel quarry
#

fox mccloud?

#

Another space animal?

#

I'm up for it

limpid agate
#

@novel quarry I pictured him

novel quarry
#

he's already got a gun lol

last inlet
#

Ohh

#

I like Cloud more

#

Reminds me of Fox

worthy rose
#

Cmon mcloud is just a knock on braveheart

golden urchin
#

do you guys think Hammond will speak

worthy rose
#

I hope not

limpid agate
#

Probably

#

His laugh is annoying though

worthy rose
#

Unless he isnt squeaky for whatever reason

golden urchin
#

i want him to just squeak

last inlet
#

Emotes that involve him getting out of mech

#

And squeaking

golden urchin
#

do you guys think when his mech breaks he will jump out

last inlet
#

Nah

valid shell
#

No.

last inlet
#

Not like dva

valid shell
#

They're not rehashing D.Va.

worthy rose
#

Could you bring yourself to kill hammond?

valid shell
#

Plus, he's a fucking hamster.

last inlet
#

Maybe an animation, but hell just respawn

valid shell
#

He's just going to eject out of it.

#

Or just stay inside.

worthy rose
#

NO

#

Hes gotta eject

last inlet
#

Yum

#

Toasted ham

worthy rose
#

you monster

golden urchin
#

So itโ€™s obvious one of his abilities is like doomfists punch

valid shell
#

I dunno, they're not gonna make a unique 'ELIMATED (kind of)' killfeed for him.

golden urchin
#

like rolling

#

but itโ€™s gotta charge up

valid shell
#

I'm betting he gets iced but stays inside Wrecking Ball.

worthy rose
#

I wanna know how he will play into lore

golden urchin
#

his origin story should be coming out pretty soon

last inlet
#

Hopefully

worthy rose
#

Will he be evil?

last inlet
#

Well wait

golden urchin
#

i thought he was gonna be in July launch so he could be next week

last inlet
#

Ah

limpid agate
#

60 minutes left

#

For his reveal

#

PTR doesnt need to be in JUly

worthy rose
#

Eh

golden urchin
#

Iโ€™m screaming itโ€™s gonna be so beautiful

worthy rose
#

Wut you mean 60 minutes

limpid agate
#

Just the actual release

worthy rose
#

Wut you know?

golden urchin
#

I got on Instagram and saw the reveal and started screaming

modest cove
#

Reddit is funny sometimes. People think theyre the first to come up with a theory. "THEORY: hammond is queen's ult" x 100

limpid agate
#

@worthy rose What time of day does Blizzard release updates

worthy rose
#

Ahh

#

I would really like to run people over as hammond

#

Or ping pong ball into them

#

Lol that would be dope

lilac silo
#

Do yโ€™all think weโ€™ll have an animated short for him? Or a lore video?

valid shell
#

@lilac silo At the least, he'll have an origin video.

cunning ledge
#

origins video is always gonna happen

near oxide
#

dont we still need shorts for a lot of the launch characters?

valid shell
#

We haven't had a release short since Sombra.

lilac silo
#

Exactly so maybe theyโ€™ll do it for Hammond?

whole steeple
#

orgins video but in squeaks

lilac silo
#

Cuz so far we havenโ€™t had a animated short since November

valid shell
#

I wouldn't be surprised.

#

But at the same time, I'm not expecting it.

lilac silo
#

Yeah thatโ€™s true
But itโ€™s out there so who knows ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

#

Season 11 is gonna happen tomorrow so we might get his origin story

jade zealot
#

i need a hammon/winston animated short

lilac silo
#

Winston has his own but it would make sense

jade zealot
#

it could be like the junkrat/roadhog one

#

cheap animation gag script

#

i just wanna see them hang

unreal rivet
#

Sooooooo... 35 minutes before impact?

sacred hamlet
#

For now we watch Junkerqueen Fangays cry

#

May Hamster boy advance the game's plot forward for once

worthy rose
#

Rude boi!

thin shadow
#

wasnt there a picture of a talon meeting with an enhanced animal sitting at the board?

#

i cant find it now

valid shell
#

@thin shadow It was Moira's rabbit.

#

It was fake.

thin shadow
#

i see

#

thanks for making me remember

regal coyote
#

so i am right it not a monkey

last inlet
#

You did this

regal coyote
#

it maybe my grandson

limpid agate
#

Other possible animals I have heard people speculate were a rat, a rabbit, or even an octopus. But I believe 100% that when/if we learn what Hammond is, it will not be an ape, chimp, or any other monkeylike critter.

golden urchin
#

They didnโ€™t post anything yet

#

Sad

woeful coyote
#

lol

#

They played all of us

#

They played us so hard

limpid agate
#

all

woeful coyote
#

Well nobody thought hamster in a hamster ball

scenic vale
#

What happened

limpid agate
#

People said Hammond had to be a monkey

#

Hammond is actually a Hamster

severe oxide
#

hamsters are just small monkeys if you think about it

woeful coyote
#

IN A GIANT HAMSTER BALL WITH GUNS!

#

I have a new main now lol

limpid agate
#

Updating, Ill be back in half an hour

regal coyote
#

yes yes yes

severe oxide
#

maybe not

limpid agate
#

Its just the angle

#

Still look big

regal coyote
#

fuk she hot af... those muscles

limpid agate
#

Lets no turn this channel into a degen

cunning ledge
#

^

valid shell
#

HYPE.

regal coyote
#

i do men it in a good way

#

muscles

#

means she is strong and agile

limpid agate
white cobalt
severe oxide
#

this whole thing is pretty bonkers tbh

#

a fucking hamster

limpid agate
#

Okay he built it

#

What the fuck

severe oxide
#

he's winston but better

limpid agate
#

Hes a goddamn engineering genius

valid shell
#

Created grapple during rebellion, tethered to Winston's pod (with Winston's consent?), snapped overtop of Australia, built Wrecking Ball around his pod, became champion.

#

We were on point.

severe oxide
#

is he good, bad, neither?

valid shell
#

I'm happy that his name is Wrecking Ball. Hammond has always been a fucking uggo name to me.

limpid agate
#

Neutral

#

Looks like

valid shell
#

And it looks like neither.

regal coyote
#

chaotic neutral

valid shell
#

He's just getting by.

severe oxide
#

I mean, the junkers are technically neutral too, but they are criminals

valid shell
#

He didn't take part in the rebellion, he just saved himself.

regal coyote
#

he is a good guy

cunning ledge
severe oxide
#

what does hammond do

cunning ledge
#

amazing

regal coyote
#

hamsters are great

severe oxide
#

what's his purpose

regal coyote
#

always respect the hamsters

severe oxide
#

his aspirations

valid shell
#

What's Brigitte's?

severe oxide
#

help rein

dense estuary
#

Winston's pod kinda looks like CrewDragon.

regal coyote
#

yes

valid shell
#

And Hammond wants to maintain his championship.

#

They're both equally as nuanced.

regal coyote
#

hamster is noble

woeful coyote
#

Heโ€™s a pocket winston

regal coyote
#

always trust hamster

severe oxide
#

yeah but, that's not as much... relevant to the world

valid shell
#

@regal coyote Stop.

regal coyote
#

no look at his pose

#

it seems like he is a bit of the noble side

woeful coyote
#

Also, I got everything right but the hamster part!

valid shell
#

True, he's not pushing the lore forward, but he's interesting and fun at least.

woeful coyote
#

You canโ€™t see it, but Iโ€™m doing my โ€œI was rightโ€ dance

valid shell
#

@woeful coyote Didn't you say that Wrecking Ball was the Queen's mech?

woeful coyote
#

I said it was hammond

cunning ledge
#

"Published on Jun 28, 2018
Meet the resourceful tinkerer that fights with an iron-clad mech: Wrecking Ball.

Learn more about Wrecking Ball: LINK
Watch his trailer: LINK
"

valid shell
#

And she would jump into it when ulting?

cunning ledge
#

lol

limpid agate
#

lore in dev update

severe oxide
#

he might be the most self contained character yet? if he really does only stick to Junkertown

limpid agate
#

No one knew Hammond was a Hamster

#

In Junkertown

severe oxide
#

second to Orisa I guess

cunning ledge
#

wow

limpid agate
#

Hammond is not a Junker

valid shell
limpid agate
#

He doesnt talk

#

The mech talks

#

The mech is not an Omnic

#

It has an AI

valid shell
#

Good. He would be insufferable if he talked.

limpid agate
#

That talks

woeful coyote
#

But then I said that it is Hammond in it

white cobalt
#

Landed in Junkertown like someone ws predicting

limpid agate
#

The mech is not an Omnic
Hammond is not a Junker

#

Kaplan keeps repeating these two points

valid shell
#

Good.

cunning ledge
#

why is the hero name not Hammond though

#

really

valid shell
#

I'm glad.

cunning ledge
#

I guess he's more known as wrecking ball?

limpid agate
#

He has your grappling hook

#

That lets him swing

#

Like a wrecking ball

severe oxide
#

wrecking ball is his battle name

#

like Mercy or Tracer

valid shell
#

@dapper egret

#

Firing up the PTR now.

dense estuary
#

Its his ring name, Basically Wrecking Ball is like "The Rock"

cunning ledge
#

ptr hype

last inlet
#

How is he not a junker

woeful coyote
#

So is he in the PTR?

severe oxide
#

he just played in Jtown for a bit, but isn't one of them

#

he's left Jtown now

woeful coyote
#

When can I play my beautiful new main?

valid shell
#

I guess Junkers are probably Australians (or descendants of) who fought the Omnics?

cunning ledge
#

he's on ptr yeah

valid shell
#

Who knows.

woeful coyote
#

So does his rolling do damage?

#

Whatโ€™s his ult?

valid shell
#

HAHAHA

#

WRECKING BALL'S VOICE IS GREAT.

cunning ledge
#

is it text to speech

valid shell
#

Okay I'm all about this little dude.

cunning ledge
#

this seems amazing so far

woeful coyote
#

I want a Hammond plushie

cunning ledge
#

11/10 hero

#

thanks blizz

valid shell
#

He controls his mech with a throttle and trackball.

cunning ledge
#

oh my god really

valid shell
#

His HUD looks similar to D.Va's.

woeful coyote
#

Dva move over, we have a new fan favorite

valid shell
limpid agate
#

Nice

#

Laucnhing pTR now

last inlet
#

Aw, at least Winston and Hammond get along

dapper egret
#

Why tag me?

cunning ledge
#

@valid shell that's amazing, thank you

valid shell
#

@dapper egret Because you were right.

#

He swings like a wrecking ball.

dapper egret
#

Oh yeah that just makes design sense

cunning ledge
#

any cosmetics or are there none like usual

dapper egret
#

None

cunning ledge
#

darn

valid shell
#

YO.

#

The physics of his ball and swinging is tight.

#

OKAY Imma stop gushing about mechanics.

cunning ledge
#

how does the ult animation look

#

does it look like it could be a canon thing

valid shell
#

He dumps a field of mines, so I don't see why not.

last inlet
#

A minefield?

#

Ah

valid shell
#

Yup.

last inlet
#

Another mobile tank

cunning ledge
valid shell
#

Lemme see how he dies, because that's actually lore-relevant.

cunning ledge
#

i'm guessing the mech just powers down and there are no audible death sounds

last inlet
#

Types in chat :pls kill me

#

Shutting down...

dapper egret
#

His ingame name is wreckingball tho, not hammond

cunning ledge
#

yeah

#

it's his stage name

#

which he is most known by

valid shell
#

Squeaks. "He says thank you."

cunning ledge
#

amazing

#

holy shit guys

#

what if

valid shell
#

OH.

#

HE DOES DIE.

cunning ledge
#

mech ai is related to the omnium

valid shell
#

He pops out of the mech.

cunning ledge
#

HOLY FUCK BLIZZARD WHY

valid shell
#

And his little hamster corpse ragdolls.

#

Holy shit.

cunning ledge
#

that's

#

wow

#

i am impressed

#

meanwhile in youtube description

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"
ESRB Rating: TEEN with Blood, Use of Tobacco, Violence.
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a hamster dies

valid shell
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He has got some BONKERS mobility.

worthy rose
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So they call him wrecking ball instead of hammond

cunning ledge
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i hope winston calls him hammond

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at least once

last inlet
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HE DIES?

cunning ledge
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I also really hope one of his legendaries is a scrap mech

limpid agate
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The one in his Origin short

valid shell
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@last inlet He dies.

dire timber
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so, Hammond hitched a ride without Winston's knowledge

valid shell
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His body pops out of the pod and ragdolls.

last inlet
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he dies

dense estuary
cunning ledge
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@limpid agate yeah exactly

valid shell
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I'm glad other people are seeing the similarities.

dense estuary
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yea Hammond somehow did not add enough mass to impact Winston's rocketry calculations.

cunning ledge
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hammond hacked the calculations to factor them in without winston noticing

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obviously

last inlet
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Hackmond

dense estuary
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that said how old was Winston when he broke out? Pod is probably rated for a few humans. If Winston was not fully mature he probably was lighter than its rated.

dire timber
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he was already adult

worthy rose
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Noooooooo hammond can die ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

dire timber
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you can see him in Hammond's origin story

worthy rose
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His little body falls out ๐Ÿ˜ญ

cunning ledge
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i'm very surprised they included the relatively graphic death of an actual hamster

worthy rose
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Its super sad

valid shell
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Eh.

worthy rose
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Not that humans dying isnt sad either

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But ya know

valid shell
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People dislike animals dying because they equate their innocence and intelligence to that of an infant, but I feel in Hammond and Winston's case, it's an exception.

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Because they're both genetically ascended.

cunning ledge
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I'm just surprised because of the potential reaction from people that don't know that

worthy rose
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But cmon man, its still sad seeing hammonds corpse ragdolling around

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A cute chubby hamster corpse

cunning ledge
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at least they removed symmetra being able to pick them up

last inlet
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Hamster doesn't talk tho

worthy rose
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His mech has a translator which is pretty cool

last inlet
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If we yell at Blizzard enough about it, they'll change it

knotty stirrup
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THEY ADDED A FREAKING HAMSTER?!

worthy rose
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How impactful was this hero reveal?

knotty stirrup
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A hamster...

iron plume
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Depends what you mean by impactful

valid shell
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@knotty stirrup THEY ADDED A FREAKING MONKEY?!

iron plume
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if you mean the kind of impact one gets from slamming their head into a wall

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very

knotty stirrup
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A GORILLA ISN'T ENOUGH?!

valid shell
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Nothing wrong with a hamster.

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He doesn't talk and isn't physically strong or anything.

knotty stirrup
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Ridiculous

valid shell
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k