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jetapack cat never had any ground tho. that was just community hype
hammonds name is all over stuff and literally a picture of asmall monkey was the leak
What leak
Thats not a leak
excuse my verbage but you know what i mean
No, I dont. People like bringing up fake Hammond leaks often enough
plus the changes to horizon and the secret monkey compartment?
Jetpack Cat was a joke iirc
There are too many clues pointing to Hammond to think that Queen will be next
Yes, Jetpack Cat was a joke, where they said "We had this concept, but it was too silly to fit in the universe"
Solution
Make Hammond the concept
Now it fits
Although I wish Blizz does something with her, I really liked her posters
Especially in two ways:
1 - We don't know what animal Hammond is.
2 - Jetpack Cat doesn't have to be a cat.
We do know
Oh we do, what animal is he
Chimpanzee if I remember correctly
Nice guess
But we dont know
We have never seen hammond or been told what animal he is
He could just as easily be a different type of monkey or ape
Or not a primate at all
Yeah, everyone just assumes he's a chimp
he is refferenced as one of the smaller test subjects in the horizon document and they are specifically testing on primates
Interestingly
The mural in the teaser shows a dog
A dog is a smaller test subject as well
I just don't think a dog would eat bananas
Its not two chimps
i think youre pulling at hairs
both primates, neither dogs or cats
Hammond escaped through vents
i appreciate your devils advocacy buy you are just being a naysayer for the sake of naysaying at this point.
All I am saying is
We dont know what he is
Most likely some kind of primate
But its not impossible for him to be something else
Furthermore, he could be a chimp, and just as easily still be Jetpack Cat
I would think he's a primate but for one detail
Which was my original point
its possible for them to ship mcree/hanzo but not at all likely
Hammond and Jetpack Cat are, I believe, the same character
Thats fine
PLOT TWIST IT WAS BRIGITTE'S CAT
Jetpack Cat doesnt have to be a cat
That would be terrifying
They've shown us concepts of Jetpack Cat being other animals
Posting it again.
It is suggested that he escaped through ventilation system, and one would need thumbs to do that
The entire time
i mean a different animal could easily possess some sort of augmentation
2/6 of those are chimps, again making your outcome less likely
I appreciate the stimulation of your idea but at this point we are coming too close to assume anything else.
Im not sure if you are stil ltalking about hammond being a non-primeate
Which I dont give a shit about, really. He can be anything but is probably some kind of monkey
That hammond is indeed- 1 a chimp 2 the next hero and 3 modeled after a mobile jetpack like kit
Or if youre talking about jetpack hammond not being likely
So you say Jewvia is playing devil's advocate when there is ample evidence to it?
Those are the facts we have to work with and saying hammond could be a dog at this point is moving away from logical forethought
Fuck the dog
Move off from the dog
I dont care about the dog
The important thing
Is Jetpack Hammond
What is wrong with Jetpack Hammond
Jetpack monkey hammond
Was about to ask why this discussion is so serious, then I remembered the channel description
we basically have monkey confirmed
So whats wrong with Jetpack Hammond
I doubt the character itself would have that in the design but it would be a gameplay element either way
It doesnt need to be specifically one of those 2 monkeys
As long as Hammond has a jetpack
Congratulations
You inherited Jetpack Cat
He doesnt need to be a cat
He doesnt need to be some free flying flamethrower chimp
So long as Hammond is a small animal with a jetpack
He is jetpack cat
So whats the problem with my theory
Which Ive been saying for a long time now, not just since recent things. Ive been saying Jetpack Hammond for 28 ever since Brig dropped
Bit like they introduced Efi then kinda proxied her through Orisa instead, even though in this case Orisa is her own char
And the past month has only further pushed me towards thinking its gonna be Hammond
if they decided a cat with a jetpack was too silly for Overwatch, why would a chimp/monkey/whatever with a jetpack be any better?
we already have an ape with a jetpack
@lean silo The thing is, Efi's debut explicitly had her talking about her inspiration of the OR15s, her being a genius robotics girl, and how she had a secret project she was gonna build
Whereas Hammond is just
Small missing animal
@peak escarp The silly part is the cat aprt
There is no precedent
For a second animal hero
Hammond is the second animal hero
If Hammond is 28
which is why I don't think they'll give us another animal hero
Winston is human enough to work
and any animal too much like Winston would be redundant
IF we were explicitly told, we are getting Hammond as a hero. Would you then agree he would most likely inherit Jetpack Cat's concept?
no
why should he have a jetpack? other people argued for him to have a mech
they've got about as much credibility as the jetpack idea
i mean people are arguing that Queen should have a mech so having two mechs in a row would be weird
Why should he have a mech? There is:
A: No known Mech Cat concept
B: Junkerqueen on the horizon, another mech champ
^
or maybe Hammond was found by Talon and given upgrades like the Heavy from Retribution?
Is the Heavy even a person
Wuh.
or Sanjay made him a hard light suit
Why do people keep trying to put Hammond into Talon.
Is Hammond even Talon? That's all judt speculation
those ideas have as much credibility as anything else
It's not even speculation, it's a crack theory.
Answered my own question
we know nothing about what Hammond could be
Those ideas have 0 background
Jetpack Hammond admittedly has low ground
But low
Is still some
And its ground is a year of Blizzard memeing about Jetpack Cat
And how it being a literal cat would be too silly
Solution: Its not a cat its a second monkey
It's mostly the fact that both Hammond and Jetpack cat are unresolved teases within the same bracket that could be combined.
Hammond somehow falling into Talon and getting??? turned into a Heavy?????????
Is baseless.
I mean it's a small animal
Like how Doomfist was used as a nod in Orisa's release?
^
And then we got Doomfist anyways?
Doomfist was a thing since the 2014 trailer
And Jetpack Cat was a thing since 2015 Blizzcon
Just a name and a glove.
Whats your point
But I mean he was always just a background character
The time frame is identical
He turned into basically a glove in the Numbani payload
Just shifted 1 year over
Doomfist was never intended to ever be playable when he was first mentioned.
Then they released him
Listen - nobody wants a fucking jetpack animal less than me, but pretending that Jetpack Cat has 0 precedent to become playable is just foolishness.
I dont even want Jetpack Hammond
Believe it or not
Im saying, I believe that is the most likely outcome to come out of the July hero
And I've been saying that for 4 months now
Im sure everyone here is sick of hearing me repeat myself on this shit. I know I am
Changing a bit the topic, the telescope in the PTR changed locations?
i mean in Horizon
then why do you keep saying it?
What am I supposed to do
NOT speculate hero 28
Discuss new lore
@white cobalt Did it?
It's still in attacker spawn.
Im asking, because i'm remembering the landing points
Ill check ptr
That's proactive!
I think its the same though.
Much more helpful than "how old is mercy?????" when there's multiple sites that can tell you.
Oh, they're the same, i was expecting a change on it. Like Hammond landing in another site or if he was stickied to Winston
Yeah
yeah, there's two sets of prints there
a pair of feets are big like a gorilla
and the others are more tiny
Im wondering if those are from Winston and Hammond or maybe the other specimens which are shown in their security cameras.
Winston doesn't have a cage like Hammond.
rank. zarya
@worthy rose ?
Zarya is a sergeant, if that's what you're asking
does this make the dog hero joke possible
lorewise, do the scrapyard mechs have pilots? Or are they autonomous?
pilots
theres a frame which you can see a slight glimspe of something that may look like a spacesuit curled up
hammond = armadillo confirmed
Could be pangolin
Or a robot hedgehog/echidna
Cuz those animals go on a ball like form
hm
@worthy rose gotta go fast m8
it doesnt seem like it
looks too small and too advanced tbh
that was my first reaction too, that's actually a weapon rolling by, not the champion
the weapon does seem quite large though
I’m gonna go watch it a few more times
could be an ult, sends a big ass wrecking ball across the map
the lights on the ball look like some sort of door
ejection for whatever is inside?
i have a feeling it might be hammond related
hammond could pilot the ball like the balls in jurassic world
if we are assuming that this is some sort of pod/mech
another dva style character perhaps?
i mean that's what many people suspected JT queen to be
it might be that this is just what hammond uses
Queen is confirmed to be a mech pilot.
So guys hear me out. The teases we are getting could be set in the past and the thing rolling by is Winston’s escape pod rolling by and the big reveal ks Hammond
Though looking at the mechs idling in Junkertown, it's likely more of a Ripley from Alien-style exosuit over a D.Va-esque MEKA.
Why would an escape pod with visible blueprints roll
i don't suspect this to be a mech pilot; its probably just what the character inside the sphere uses to traverse
And yeah I don't think Junkertown would have such smooth mechs like South Korea does
@valid shell I thought its a bit like the one which was in elysium
jeff did state a while back that there would be news for korean viewers
perhaps hammond lands in korea?
i dont think it's junkerqueen related
Me either
its just not JTQ related
plot twist: its someone nobody knows abt
another moira?
@sweet flicker you have a point
jeff hasnt stated anything about the hero
he hasnt said that they have been hinted at
just a 100% random
When do you guys think the character will be revealed?
i still think that signs are pointing to hammond being the next hero
there's just been too much stuff pointing at his reveal such as the changes and hints on horizon
i could see that. what did the blueprints for hammonds pod look like again?
we get to see winstons pod but not hammonds
Wrecking Ball being a scrapyard contender (and reigning champ?) is too much of a coincidence to me for this to be hammonds pod
the concept seems a little rough
Would the wrecking ball be an omnic or controlled by a human though
notice on the right
ok so you know the rocketship and rubix cube thing
is the rubix cube spherical enough for us to assume thats like
the example hammond used for his pod
it's rubik's cube
bc it was the closet thing to a circle he could find
judging by the poster, the mech itself looks like its a ball shape. Even has lights on it
it's a 3x3 cube
tbh it just seems like it's hammond's time
unless he is another red herring, i strongly believe that its gonna be hammond
Imagine if they threw 2 heroes at us at once to truly through us off haga
I’d love that
Throw*
True
the chaos
even the sticky note design that hammond put near winston's blueprints is similar to what we see in the teaser
So a big metal ball in the latest tweet.
Lucioball 3
its hammond's time folks
inb4 hammond is a rip off winston, just the same everything but tiny
his ult "primal anger"
Less memes please guys.
I’d rather see the junker queen if anything because of all the Mad Max shoutouts they could do.
People thought sombra then it was ana then it was sombra then they show of EFI and they brought beetle then we get df and then we were like who is the next hero and we were looking at sanjay
But.
And so on
so hammond primarily uses his pod for traversal?
or is that just a tease?
@untold cradle There's no uses. He used his pod to hitch a ride on Winston's.
Not gonna fix all the autocorrect
so just a tease
Moreso an explanation to how he got onto earth.
Because reentry from the moon is a complex process, and they can't just handwave it when Winston's escape is so significant.
So they rolled both their escapes into one.
A good move on Blizz's part.
looks like maybe hammond's pod landed near junkertown, and somehow ends up being repurposed into a fighting mech - Wrecking Ball
makes sense
at this point JTQ is probably 29
oh dang. y'all see the new teaser from today?
the sphere we see in the teaser is too advanced for JT technology
hammond's pod could have detached at any point during the ride back to earth
that ball is similar to the kugelpanzer (spherical tank)
but wrecking ball is the champion of the JT mech fights, and its been confirmed that JTQ is a mech champion
Main problem is if the pod detached before the entry burn it would probably have been going too fast
so its assumed that WB is her mech
but in the teaser it landed in like rialto (thats where the scene is, right?)
Nope.
the pod
Queen is a previous mech champion. Wrecking Ball is the CURRENT champion.
yikes
Then again the setting antigravity so maybe returns no longer have scheduled burns.
i still think its unlikely that hammond dropped into JT though
Same.
A Charismatic, former Gladiatorial Mech Champion: The Queen - Clipped by sektumsempraa
FORMER gladiatorial mech champion.
ah
Of course, Wrecking Ball having the moniker 'THE Champion' might also be because it was a champion at some point, but that's less likely.
@sweet flicker I don't think the teaser is actually rialto... I think they just took a section of wall they thought no one would recognize and put some new objects on it specifically for this teaser
Honestly, all the heroes on deck don't make sense for Blizzard's established pattern. They all have too much exposure.
This next hero should be an Orisa or a Moira, an unknown hero with very little teasing used to fill gameplay or story niches.
i just remember hearing smth abt it was like from rialto so i just assumed that. my bad.
yeah its just a section from one of rialto's walls
doesn't necessarily mean that it is rialto
as an area
or setting
Honestly, they likely didn't have a stretch of wall in King's Row big enough for all these teasers, so they retextured a Rialto wall and hoped nobody would notice, but everybody noticed.
it definitely is a section of rialto, but I'm assuming that lore-wise it has nothing to do with it
more likely wanted to portray KR since anti-omnic stuff
so... Hammond is a small monkey inside a ball?
Could be the ball for Hammond? His ship
that's what i'm thinking
in Lunar Colony, Winston seems to make a plan to escape in an escape pod, and tie a ball behind it to carry something/someone else
Is Hammond the one with the idea to attach a ball/ship to Winston rocket
I'd rather have queen than a little monkey dude
Yes hammond made a model of his escape plan with toys by attaching a hook to winstons escape pod
@white cobalt
did anyone else notice the queen doesn't talk anymore on junkertown???
if you play an omnic, roadhog, or junkrat she doesn't even comment on them
it's like shes missing
Yeah its athenas voice now
Idk but im putting my money on junkertown queen as next hero or someone from there
I'm 100% certain the teaser is Wrecking Ball that we can see in the posters on JT, so definitely connected
🤔
i don't believe hammonds escape pod would be circular
because it was the ships escape pod
why would it not be able to fit a human
Hm.
I had no idea that existed.
That's totally Wrecking Ball.
It even has the grippy bits from his poster.
maybe another omnic?
When discussing Wrecking Ball.
ok, not going to lie
What about bigweld from robots 
it does have hexagon shapes like hammonds escape pod in his room
the omnidroid 
I've never been the biggest Queen fan, since she'd just be a reflavoring of Junkrat/Roadhog's aesthetic, but I'd be fine with the third Australian hero not being Australian at all, and actually a second moon hero.
but,,, think about the voice interactions between the queen and junkrat and roadhog
Well mako isn't exactly Australian
like junkrat would try to be nice and be like "isn't it great we are working together"
and then the queen would STAB HERSELF
Sure, the lore would be fun, but the diversity of the cast would suffer with another Mad Max Aussie.
I doubt that they have the best quality steel in Junkertown, considering everything is salvaged scrap, so an escape pod from a state-of-the-art moon colony that survived re-entry would have a significant advantage if turned into a mech.
What the actual fuck is this
Who, Queen?
The tweet
It's literally her modus operandi.
Fuck is this
Why wouldn't she have some kind of mech element.
Nice meem.
we know the queen is a pilot, but...do we know she doesn't control her mech remotely?
Because then it ceases to be a mech.
And becomes a battlebot.
A second mech hero wouldn't hurt D.Va. We have multiple shotgun heroes, and they're all different enough to not step on each other's toes.
i just feel like
Who do you think would win in a fight
why a mech with the junkertown queen
we wouldn't have another hero that pops out of their mech
its just wasted potential if she has a mech
she seems so good with hand to hand combat and her gun and spear
That's not the only way a mech hero could work.
Reinhardt or Orisa
@limpid agate did you saw the slowed version i linked? https://streamable.com/74sgz
@worthy rose Later.
K
what if hammond used his escape pod then when he got back to earth lands in junkertown, reuses his pod into a mech and fights the queen, kills her (which explains why her voiceover is gone) and steals her weapons and implements them in his mech
it's wasted potential if she doesn't pop out of her mech
then again its just rehashing
just a thought
Doubtful.
thanks
@golden urchin Why not fight on foot and her mech is her ultimate?
@worthy rose i mean if we're talking about present day rein then orisa would just use fortify to migitate his attacks and then shoot him
I mean both at their peak of power
The OR-series was pretty much created to defeat the Crusaders.
her mech would function like winstons angr mode
Watch Honor and Glory.
rein got absolutely clapped by just one of those things
Anyways. As much as I fffucking hate Hammond, I'm putting my money on Hammond in his souped up escape pod and rebranded Wrecking Ball in Junkertown.
i guess rein would have more battle experience, but orisa is just a counter to him in-universe
the monkey ball actually wasn't a joke huh
Hammond in his orb shaped escape pod
@limpid agate https://streamable.com/74sgz This is what's going on.
Im trying to load it but my internet sucks
It looks very similar to Wrecking Ball, down to the grippy bits, and seems to have the hatch on Hammond's escape pod.
so hammond actually landed in JT somehow
Landed, washed up, something.
can't wait to see the lore on this
where is the wrecking ball in junkertown
So I watched a bit of honor and glory
i wanna go look for it
Probably never LUL
Cant wait til they do something with the storyline other than character intros...
So Orissa technically is an omnic
she is an omnic
not gonna lie, her weapon lowkey looks like a sniper
@worthy rose It depends.
tfw the Lucioball was the teaser.
or like a saw
its not lucioball
Orisa was built from the parts salvaged from robots that are based on Omnics. Does that make her an Omnic?
It's subjective.
thats a different mech
But she's considered an Omnic in-universe.
or is that her mech
Is she sentient though
And what looks like
Do you mean does she feel?
Hex plating
ewww if hammond has a mech and is a tank that would be so yucky
Yes
i don't want 2 monkey tanks
i'd assume she has some sort of feelings
I'm starting to think that tread pattern on the outside is armor around the escape pod
preprogrammed or not
@worthy rose It's unclear. She didn't undergo some miraculous awakening, Efi programmed her from scratch.
So Orisa might not be sapient.
Where the fuck even is this on a map.
I've been looking.
wait
theres 3 potential landing spots?
i thought there was only 2
i vividly remember only 2
What do you mean where is it
am i dumb
Its what you see through the telescope
I mean I can't find that landmass.
O
thank u
Isnt junkertown in australia?
yep
Welp
watch overwatch pull a moira and just have the hero literally be dr. winston
and hes the one that set up the possible locations to look for winston
pulling a moira
yeah
We have seen that most of the omnics in the game are peaceful when you play as either bastion or zenyatta
moira came outta nowhere
hammond landed whereever winston landed
There are 3 details on the ball
unless he 1. broke off during the approach to space
I still thinks its possible hammond's pod detached before landing
yeah
Red - A valve
Blue - A hatch?
Not circled - The hex pattern on the orb
Any violent omnic would be violently put down
tire tread
That's still an insane distance for Hammond's pod to veer off from Winston's trajectory.
Someone got apicture of the toy
What
wait nevermind
No
im dumb
please no buly
im gonna look up overwatch and click on every conspiracy theory
oh my god i just saw the rolling through video holy gUYS
kinda off topic, but mercy would probably beat medic since superior technology
Winston's pod looks clean
In that blueprint
Compared to the hex armor orb
its hammond
yeah, ptr is closed
There is no hex armor on Horizon
But the glass has the pattern
Probably nothing important though
Please, enlighten us.
Links.
Upload it to imgur and post the link.
Or your preferred image hosting site.
pretty sure the hex pattern - or tread - was put on after the fact. Looks like a junker style thing
Probably
i was positive it was junkertown queen
but now i feel like its gonna be hammond which disapoints me
Source?
Be interesting if the Junkers have no idea it's a chimp inside and thinks he's just a mystery mech pilot.
Well they wanted to release elfi and we got doomfish
...
Maybe this hammond thing is a red herring
@kindred pier What did I say about shitposting
@kindred pier Jew explicitly said not to shitpost.
Why did you intentionally break the rules.
Why do you do this thing.
Oh dear 
If its a mech its literally bakugan
Stop being so predictable.
Inb4 everyone gets a keylogger on their computer from random links
Btw, speaking of the ball isn't a bit tiny?
Wrecking Ball and Hammond Escape Pod are the two best cases right now
Maybe more or less like Hammond's cage
Honestly, I'm warming up to this.
I think its pretty cool
maybe its like a wrecking ball junkertown queen controls if it is her?
its hammond.
it does look a bit like hammonds escape pod
its his escape pod.
I didn't want just a funni monkee with a le epic jetpack, but if he's got Junker elements applied to him, it softens the blow.
Well, yeah.
why does that matter
Unless Junkerqueen goes full Samus/Metroid style
So?
If he's going to be a hero, he'd need a ranged ability.
why does that matter
No that time he was serious
@kindred pier You're presenting it in a really cringy way, but you're not wrong.
^
Just say what you want to say instead of posting screenshots and links.
Use your words.
Some of us are on data and can't watch youtube videos.
I think one of the bigger clues is those weird notches you can see in the picture
"I think it will be like the Droidekas from Star Wars"
Those arrows
So ur saying wrecking ball if hes a hero he going to be a droideka?
Then you explain.
"Rolling droids from Star Wars: The Phantom Menace."
XD
If they don't know that, then why even bring it up?
Anyways, back to topic
Its these droids that roll as balls, then turn into walkers with shields and shoot shit
Im ending this argument
ok wild speculation here -- but maybe he died on re-entry, was found by someone and reanimated into a cyborg ala Genji, and is now forced to pilot the mech in scrapyard battles under the command of the Queen
Sounds wild
Isn't pretty "advanced" to be from Junker?
Him landing in Australia is less wild
imagine that backstory
And I still think thats nutty
Where did winston land
Europe
Makes sense if lands on Australia.
I can accept him landing in the ocean and washing up on Australia, at most.
Potentially Lisbon, Algiers, or Spain
or even better, had his consciousness programmed into the mech
whut?
Australia is a sixth of the planet away from Europe. That's an extreme angle.
Other thing is probably his hook got detached from Winston's pod
Rialto is in italy so hammond getting detached while entering orbit
and lands onAustralia
and landing there is fairly likely compared to Australia
its better than another monkey hero, I'm just trying to make it sound better
I'm fine with a monkey hero if he's vacuum-sealed inside a mech and only appears in highlight intros.
wait stupid question but was hammond with winston when they entered orbit canon or is that also a theory?
@coarse yacht He tethered his pod to Winston's.
it's not
^
its literally his escape pod
O
@coarse yacht Winston was escaping, Hammond attatched himself to his escape pod.
Hammond's escape pod is also a ball
Or ball shaped
Based on his blueprints and toy model
it's hammond with advanced JT mech
Not confirmed.
From his blue prints and his toy
Its implied
But not 100%
We know the Junkertown Champion is named Wrecking Ball
I'm guessing he'll be a reverse Reinhardt, camera pulling into 3rd person for mobile ball form, and back to first person with legs/head/gun deployed.
In before the ball is just his ult
Stop thirsting homie.
its literally hammond
So ur saying that he will be like you were playing a droideka in battlefront?
Hammond might also be Wrecking Ball
how
Have you been reading the conversation?
Well hammond isn't dumb
there is no evidence at all.
SO its not out of the question
Ball shaped mech
Multiple posters of Junkertown
Including a Wrecking Ball poster
hammond did not land in australia
But its possible he traveled\
Keep in mind
what else is a chimp going to do
traveled all the way across the world
Winston and Hammond also landed over a decade ago
so he traveled across the world to australia
There was no evidence of an Oasis hero also being Irish and also being a Talon councilman and also being ex. Blackwatch and also being an evil healer and also being potentially the Widowmakermaker, but here we are.
So he would have a lot of time to do things
hammond landed with winston and just walked to australia or he landed in the sea and eventually got to australia
or he floated in orbit for 10 years
its not going to happen
i dunno, what reason would he have to go to australia?
I think its a stupid idea
it's not going to happen my guys
Dude.
theres no reason he would go to australia
I dont like the idea of Hammond being the Junker champion
Nobody here WANTS Hammond to be a Junker hero.
But its not impossible
Collecting the junkrat and roadhog bounty
It makes sense
it doesn't make sense
All the clues are there for it to be a thing
@golden urchin So why did Winston join Overwatch
For no reason
After landing on Earth
But we have recent teases of Hammond in a ball-shaped pod, and a ball-shaped Junkertown mech champion, and occam's razor, homie.
O so now you're playing "I was just pretending to be retarded".
Winston did not make overwatch
Dude, you have to have 0 chill to keep this fucking shitshow on task.
New hero season brings out the worst
And not post le epik Incredibles pictures.
@kindred pier Shitposting will result in a loss of access
Keep that in mind
Thats why I have no chill
You entered this conversation with an Incredibles meme
Inb4 laytech disappears forever
If there wasn't a mod here to keep control it would just be people posting "DAE TRACER GAY????"

If you have a complaint about my moderation
DM @sullen pagoda
DO NOT discuss it here
Anyways.
Ok
Moving on.
Moving swiftly onwards
So did elfi die?
What?
NO
who's elfi
She's a child.
Like ... orisa came out
Living in Numbani.
Annd.. nothing
you mean efi???
Did you expect to see her on the battlefield?
Oh efi lol
efi's alive and well
Yeah
O okies
Efi is still alive
collecting grant money and playing mother to orisa
We haven't seen Emily since her introduction, but nobody's saying she's kill.
so if we're still going with the whole "hammond is a junker" thing, then does that mean that he's current gladiatorial mech champ?
@untold cradle Wrecking Ball is the current champ.
If Hammond is the Wrecking Ball, it only makes sense.
Ew i hope hammond isnt wrecking ball that would be such a cop out
and we're assuming that WB is a modified version of the escape pod
There's a reason Blizzard updated Horizon.
I hope he is not Wrecking Ball
We might have found it.
maybe they took the escape pod from hammond and got rid of him or something
i dont think it's gonna be a junker
yikes
There's a ban.
@fading topaz No fanfiction
ono
Moving swiftly onwards
Blizzard updated Horizon and revealed Hammond's method of escape, which was a spherical pod attached to Winston's. Now we're seeing posters of a Junker mech gladiator called Wrecking Ball. And now we're seeing a fully modelled and animated sphere with the same grip texture as Wrecking Ball, and what looks like the same hatches as Hammond's pod.
This is shaping up to be a cohesive origin, as much as I dislike it.
Shitposters wasted my clipboard space.
There is a chance this is Wrecking Ball.
Considering it has
An actual wrecking ball

@ionic socket ?
Yesh that looks promising
They're laughing at my suggestion
The missing arm makes it look like, you know
Not a champion
True
okay so maybe that USED to be wrecking ball
But it could be used for parts in conjunction with Hammond's pod.
doesn't look much like the poster
Nah.
JUNKERTOWN QUEEN HAS A SUIT????
We haven't seen Queenie's mech.
oh aww
Or there is some mech...
Stop riling up the thirsty boys.
so what do we know about the politics of Junkertown, isn't the reigning champ the King/Queen?
dude we can be excited for a character, even if they arent hero 28
Not with misinformation.
The current champion is apparently Wrecking Ball, but the Queen is still the Queen.
So who knows.
i'd imagine its a scenario where you challenge the current queen or king in a mech battle to become the new king/queen
Could this drop Queen like next hero, and left the next (Blizzcon) Sanjay, Max?
since it doesn't really look like JT has any in-depth poltics
Sounds very orcish
Where can I find the Hero 28 Teaser??
@worthy rose #overwatch-news
Of course, Blizzard's pattern is unclear and is mostly our own conjecture, but does Hammond qualify as a Orisa/Moira-esque blindside hero? At least from the perspective of pig-disgusting casual normies who don't overanalyze lore.
i mean i dunno exactly what advanced politics JT would have since they all more or less has similar values (hate omnics, mech fights etc.)
those omnic posters on the left tho
Considering I read more people saying
"Hammond is a red herring, its the Queen"
Than I did people saying its Hammond
thank you! that shits crazy af @limpid agate
hammonds been left out on the lore drying rack for about a year
it's about time they did something with him
Hope we get a tank
Ana - Sombra
Sombra - Liao (Just ARG salt)
Orisa - Doomfist
Doomfist - Hammond
Moira - Junkerqueen
Brigitte - Literally anyone else
Hammond - Queen
We need a few new tanks and then Support
hammond challenging the queen for the role of leader of JT
Yes
if the whole gladiator fight for the spot theory still stands
if a new tank is gonna be introduced it'll be more for gameplay than to fill out lore
He go ooh-ooh, the Queen fucking explodes
Or not
He go aaah- aah, the Junkers die
It would yeah
it'd be interesting to see what a character like hammond could do to potentially change JT
I'll keep my fingers crossed for dead monkey
How about Monkey that kills innocent people
But we can agree that Blizzard didn't model and animate and sound design the ball in the teaser for nothing, right?
since he most likely has extremely different ideals growing up in the lunar colony
It's obviously part of the upcoming hero.
what if we get a null-sector hero
Same
it has to be
Hhhh no
i don't think blizzard would put so much detail into it just so that it would be a prop
is hero 28 going to be more gameplay or lore
Probably both
unless we're all getting severely baited, which i doubt
Queen became Queen because she was champion
Wrecking Ball is current champion
Wrecking Ball is potentially Hammond
Employ orcish power struggles
Hammond Origin short is him killing and dethroning the Queen
New hero: Hammond, King of Junkertown
....that makes sense
why cant wrecking ball be he queen
Or Hammond just becomes the Queen's champion.
Orrr
Wrecking ball is just wrecking ball
@hollow barn Because Wrecking Ball is the current champion, and the Queen is explicitly a former champion.
It doesn't speak, breathe or anything
It looks like we are getting Hammond
whre does it say that? so i can look
On her wiki page.
A Charismatic, former Gladiatorial Mech Champion: The Queen - Clipped by sektumsempraa
what about the other posters?
Teach them to fish.
I wrote the page
specifically the ones about omnic equality?
What about them
They're just there for the setting
It's King's Row
The ones that were out of place were the Junker Posters
And the Horizon mural
i'm gonna cross my fingers for another omnic hero
considering that they're the only posters not covered up
well, besides lucio's
Maximilien is pretty much the only option for a (named) Omnic hero.
Lynx 17 would be a poor-man's Sombra.
Hal-Fred is a joke.
Thespion 4.0 could be interesting, maybe.
something from null sector?
Possible, but Max is a much better option for an 'evil Omnic'.
would more of talon's upper brass make the lore more interesting though?
and what would max do in game anyways?
With Sombra - Doomfist - Moira.
being a pet/summoner-based hero doesn't fit him
What would Mei do in-game if you saw her first in Rise and Shine?
What would Symmetra do if you just saw her in her Vishkar uniform?
I’m looking forward to a new junker hero
Maximilien has plenty of potential.
Or something at least relating to junkers in lore
We already have two Australian Junker heroes.
Since they’re one of the few neutral factions that have any real relevance
Why do we need a third when there's so many other countries with no heroes?
Thailand/South Asia or South America could be good
Caribbean please.
I want a Laotian hero
liao-sian hero
You mean Laotian?
Don’t judge I’ve never seen it written out only heard it
Or, hell, I know this is unexpected coming from me, but how about a Canadian hero?

are there any other themes that overwatch can explore?
Sure.
Give us another Ecopoint that was forgotten when Overwatch fell, and the survivors went feral.
Give us an underwater Omnium full of Omnics who didn't get the memo that the war is over.
kind of like the korean kaiju mech?
Sure! Though the Kaiju is weird because we have so little info on it.
@woeful coyote You were close, I'll concede. Cx
there's a dog in the corner
It's not going to be the Queen in the Wrecking Ball, like your initial theory.
A human can’t possibly fit in that
So that's shot to shit.
It’s either a dog or a monkey
...But you were right to think that Hammond's escape pod is probably connected to Wrecking Ball.
It is a mech, so something is inside it
The Junkers wouldn't allow an Omnic to compete.
After a dozen swings that missed.
wait how did you confirm it was going to be on the junker side of the lore?
The junker posters, specifically the intentionally barely visible Wrecking Ball one
Why hide something if it isn’t connected?
to misdirect attention?
It’s like foreshadowing an epic fight that never happens
Because it might have been intentionally put behind other teases to paint a roadmap, like your initial theory.
Don't think I'm going to let you pretend you got it in one. B3
But it wasn’t painted over like the queen’s image

