playable does
#lore-discussion
iron plume
shrewd folio
Are the legless omnics (Rialto/oasis) as sentient as legged omnics (mondatta,zenyatta,maximillien)
quasi schooner
The Rialto ones are a bad example as they are only for gondolas, remind me of the oasis ones agin.
shrewd folio
They work at the hotel and in retribution one of the legless ones served at the restaurant
quasi schooner
I’d say the restaurant ones are more sentient than Rialto, but not as sentient as the others
quasi schooner
GP, tho
dapper bone
i wonder
how did mccree lose his arm
are we ever gonna get an explanation behind it
quasi schooner
B4 or after ret?
dapper bone
after ret
quasi schooner
Possibly within ret or the explosion?
buoyant thunder
McCree left before the fight
peak escarp
He still had it in Uprising so he can't have lost it during Retribution
quasi schooner
The base explosion?
hasty surge
I swear blizzard changed the pronoun cation for Ayutthaya
regal coyote
not-shitpost; who is the dappest character in overwatch
reason: papa jeff says a dapper-looking character get a formal wear skin.
hasty surge
Genji?
regal coyote
so as per the wishes of the high lord, dap is officially a way to describe overwatch character
hasty surge
I would say genji
worthy rose
I think its doomfoot
buoyant thunder
Like zen’s backstory McCree’s arm will not be released
High Lord Big Daddy Papa Jeff will not tell us sadly
hasty surge
@dire timber sorry I thought I correct it and yeah
regal coyote
actually both. jeff ahve a slightly vision difference when it coems to lore of chu
and supposedly chu is the lord of all lores
worthy rose
Hello!
worthy rose
hay
iron plume
just the gameplay stuff
worthy rose
yeah, its just things about maps
it will daily rotate for a previous brawl
like one day is lucioball, the other day is retribution or uprising
regal coyote
@limpid agate giant mega health pack in middle, and hits at traps
so hopefully some indiana jones shit
rotate different event games
all skils ALL SKINS and cosmetic are unlockable
also it is official dap is the term used to describe heroes now, as per llord jeff
papa jeff says a dapper-looking character get a formal wear skin.
shrewd folio
Tuxedo doomfist
Also I’m pretty sure but not certain that Lucios gun is a modified prototype of symettras
limpid agate
It's not
Both use Vishkar tech
And Lucio did modify it
But they are two different tools
Also, Sym had her gun before Lucio had his.
low axle
Tuxedo Moira for a dapper outfit the proper kind with long tailed coat
worthy rose
tuxedo widow
valid shell
Tuxedo Moira is a no-brainer, looking at her silhouette.
velvet void
I normally only lurk here, but I saw the words "tuxedo Moira" and was interested
valid shell
There's not much lore behind it.
There's just a demand for formal skins since Scion Hanzo and Doomfist's white tux from Masquerade.
velvet void
I didn't want the Pink Mercy skin, but if they add a Tux Moira I'll donate whatever they want lol
valid shell
@limpid agate He is?
I've been at work all day.
I haven't had an opportunity to see any tweets or w/e.
iron plume
the dev update says someone is
valid shell
Ah.
If anyone's getting it, it's going to be Doomfist.
Far from just in this channel, I've seen it demanded on reddit and /owg/ a lot.
iron plume
It's demanded a fair bit for moira too
valid shell
Why Genji?
worthy rose
it's obv widow
valid shell
K
valid shell
Definitely Doomfist.
valid shell
Remember our most recent instance of "BUT WHAT IF THE MOST OBVIOUS HERO IS A RED HERRING"
"AND BRIGITTE IS ACTUALLY EMRE"
Nope, it's totally Doomfist.
It's identical to, "Huh everyone really likes pajama Mei, I guess we'll just slot her into this event because it fits??? I guess???"
peak escarp
Do we know where the mission in "Legacy" takes place?
peak escarp
I'm having a discussion with someone on Reddit about why Ana was able to fake her death and I want to have my facts straight before I respond
He thinks it was in Cairo
valid shell
It might be.
It might also be literally anywhere else with an arid environment.
We don't know.
dire timber
@peak escarp implied to be Poland
her cover name in the hospital was "Janina Kowalska"
which is Polish "Jane Doe"
shrewd folio
Yes the polish deserts
dire timber
yes
shrewd folio
God I love a sunny holiday to Poland
low axle
Well Ana was seemingly left to die as well. Easy enough to disappear if they already think you are dead
worthy rose
noncanon info: "Having faked my own death, I can never return to Overwatch. You have no idea how serious they are about insurance fraud."
shrewd folio
That’s now my headcanon
worthy rose
it's a hots poke quote
low axle
But they might have just assumed she died, since apparently Widowmaker killed everyone else on that Mission.
peak escarp
Well, when someone's comms cut out in the middle of a sniper duel my first guess would be that they lost the duel
low axle
yep
cunning ledge
that's where the [redacted] joke comes from
worthy rose
yeah ana also referenced deckard cain who was recently added
peak escarp
It doesn't look particularly sandy either - just yellow because of the artist's design choice
paper gazelle
"Tsang" is the Cantonese spelling for the Chinese surname "曾"
peak escarp
Arnold Tsang is one of the art directors on Overwatch
limpid agate
@peak escarp Legacy is potentially in Poland
limpid agate
But could be near
A border country cpuld work
Okay I just got here and chat didn't load yet
worthy rose
Quick question regarding the monks that Zenyatta was a part of
Were they solely in Nepal?
limpid agate
Is the Catholic Church solely in Italy?
worthy rose
I would assume they were a global society (possibly) containing Mondatta as well
Fair point
peak escarp
that's a pretty good comparison
makes me wonder why Tracer was at Mondatta's rally
does she follow Shambali teaching? or is she just an omnic sympathizer?
worthy rose
im muslim and I would absolutely attend the pope's rally
just appreciation and out of respect
peak escarp
fair point
limpid agate
Petra sounds cool
But its not exactly a new location
At least, not if its the Petra I'm thinking of
We already have Anubis and Necropolis as desert maps, and Oasis has that Middle Eastern architecture
Also, Route 66 and Junkertown are also very deserty
But I'm thinking, there's no way its not this Petra
peak escarp
yeah
valid shell
yeah
frosty shell
@peak escarp Plenty of people attend the Dalai Lama's rallies purely out of connection to his non-religious causes, so it's not hard to imagine Mondatta being the same.
peak escarp
that's a good point
runic scroll
timid eagle
The sooner we can get some footage of this map, the better we can figure out what it is.
prisma wren
hi
timid eagle
What's up?
dense estuary
shrewd folio
@runic scroll Petra is a person it’s confirmed in the uprising comic
As in Petra behind the Petra’s act
echo snow
It's Petras, not Petra's
limpid agate
@shrewd folio
shrewd folio
Yeah that’s what I meant
lusty vapor
LORE
iron plume
yes?
lusty vapor
MORE
quasi schooner
MORE?!
worthy rose
Shitposting will result in loss of access @quasi schooner @lusty vapor
quasi schooner
So, was trying to make a joke as in “Oliver”
dire timber
what is Petra
worthy rose
petra is a jordanian city
dire timber
and why couldn't we get Overwatch HQ ruins instead tbh
it would be so much more interesting
worthy rose
iron plume
might be saving it for an actual lore event
(haha nice joke party)
also Overwatch now gets +1 food and gold production on desert tiles
ebon wadi
What's all this about Petra ?
quasi schooner
Possible new thing
cunning ledge
ay grett
there's a new deathmatch map called Petra coming with the event
according to the dev update it has a "mega health pack" in the middle but it's surrounded by traps
quasi schooner
O_o
cunning ledge
"Petra is beautiful, there's some really fun gameplay elements to it as well, for example there is a mega health pack in the very centre of the map, an area that becomes increasingly dangerous as the map goes on"
idk sounds like an actual moving/changing part of the map to me
quasi schooner
Probably empty at first, but as more heroes come along it gets worse
cunning ledge
the different heroes thing he says after
worthy rose
i took the dangerous part in terms of the matchups possible in different areas
does jordan have any significance in the lore?
bleak basin
Well, I wonder if it will have connection to Emre Sarioglu
cunning ledge
there was one interview where chu basically said that emre has no backstory
like literally they haven't written anything
"Michael: Operation White Dome is a fairly important event in the story of Overwatch. We have nothing certain for Emre Sarioglu but are considering coming up with a backstory for him."
i take this as a "we'll keep this name until we randomly need some past overwatch guy to be relevant for some reason"
cunning ledge
liao is different, though
liao was supposed to be in first strike
but that died so there's a decent chance we'll never hear the name again
bleak basin
Which is kind of sad because Liao sounded like a cool character. Oh well, we'll just have to wait and see what Blizzard has for us.
cunning ledge
at this point I think liao coming back is all or nothing
either he/she is hyped up a lot and is very relevant
or there's no mention ever again
bleak basin
Agreed. I kind of hope with the new events that are probably coming (Anniversary kind of tipped us off) that there will be more story development for the characters that already exist (like D.Va and Lucio) or there will be a new introduction to less known characters (Like Maximilien, Emre, Liao, etc.)
cunning ledge
what makes you think emre would be connected to a petra map anyway?
bleak basin
The fact that Petra exists in the Middle East and Emre is a Turkish name. I wonder if he specializes in Middle East affairs, but it's only speculation. I don't have much to go off of.
worthy rose
Hmm.
worthy rose
When is anniversary due to come out?😫
iron plume
Jordan isn't exactly close to Turkey
like they're both "middle east" but they're not really related
cunning ledge
apart from the maps, no
vast moth
ah, cool
coarse yacht
is there anything particularly loresy about venom soldier, you guys think?
also his face mask screams he needs healing
limpid agate
No
valid shell
Venom soldier?
echo snow
The newly announced skin
hollow tree
mostly skins barely hold any lore values
valid shell
No kidding.
hollow tree
unless it's in the lore already and they make a skin out of it, like mei's pajamas
golden urchin
uhhhh doomfist is most likely getting his suit skin
valid shell
Yup.
valid shell
The suit looks nice, but it's dependent on how they pull off the gauntlet.
cunning ledge
Assuming it's his suit from masquerade then it's a no brainer day 1 buy from me
golden urchin
if its the normal gauntlet and the skin
cunning ledge
Really hope the gauntlet is all classy and stylistic
golden urchin
yes
all white with roses on it
hoLY IMAGINE THE GOLD GAUNTLET WITH HIS WHITE SUIT
cunning ledge
Next level class
valid shell
Of course, I'm speaking from conjecture, but since it's Anniversary and not an Archives event, the skin will likely be noncanon-ish, which would allow them to go wild with the gauntlet.
If the skin was supposed to be canon, the normal gauntlet would be the only option.
golden urchin
i want a blue sentai skin for hanzo
coughs
also
italian waiter mccree skin
his belt says "salt" and he throws flashbangs disguised as ketchup bottles
hello blizzard im waiting
golden urchin
or atleast normal flashbangs
coarse yacht
it does???? heck i didnt know this
do you think we'll get the outfits talon wore to the masquerade party thing with maximilien?
those would be amazing to have
cunning ledge
I'm sorry, "pirate skin"?
It's the Red Death, from Poe
Fitting as he already has the Nevermore skin
valid shell
Alternatively, the Phantom of the Opera from many stage productions.
Both would work thematically.
cunning ledge
There's something like the Phantom of the Opera actually references the other thing
Not sure myself
worthy rose
its the halloween one
cunning ledge
@worthy rose ?
worthy rose
oh I read something else
valid shell
@rose hedge Mm?
rose hedge
Got a question for ya: do you think it's possible The Queen could be an OW playable character?
The one from Junkertown that is
valid shell
What's an OWL playable character?
rose hedge
Hit the L by accident, nevermind that
valid shell
And it's definitely possible, but we've been told there was no plans of her being anything except a voice at her inception.
rose hedge
Ah
valid shell
But remember: Doomfist was just a placeholder name in the Cinematic Trailer.
And became playable because of the community's interest in him.
valid shell
Yeah, Brigitte was more of a slow burn. She wasn't as fanatically demanded as Doomfist or Sombra, but Blizzard plugged her here and there, in comics and interactions, so she never left the community hivemind.
Unfortunately, Queenie's a lot less likely, because we've already got two heroes from Australia.
valid shell
Agreed.
And Roadhog does have potential to be retroactively changed to a New Zealand hero without breaking lore.
rose hedge
valid shell
But Queen's still lower on the list than NPCs like Sanjay, or Maximilien.
rose hedge
Rip
valid shell
Or Hammond, as much as I hate him.
rose hedge
Hammond?
valid shell
@limpid agate has more of the factoids in hand than me.
valid shell
@rose hedge Sorry, was in a Warframe level, so I threw the ball to Jewvia, but he's AFK it seems.
Hammond was another specimen on the Horizon Lunar Colony, smaller than a gorilla, and likely another species entirely.
valid shell
He's basically a specimen that's small enough to fit in a vent, and unimportant enough that the scientists wouldn't care if he went mission, or was kept in a cage (as opposed to the gorillas having rooms and beds and possessions).
Oh, and he's not on the station anymore.
cedar galleon
Crazy how much talk that monkey has spurred
One or two mentions of a loose monkey and the whole world goes crazy
lavish rune
poor hammond
worthy rose
'twas binge
limpid agate
It's either Jetpack Cat
I'm wrong about Hammond's Specie and its Jetpack Chimp
Or its Jetpack no one.
peak escarp
my bet is no-one
lavish rune
thats my favorite hero
no-one's abilites: nothing, nothing, nothing
his ultimate is unexistent
limpid agate
I think Jetpack Cat is the prime candidate, with Emre and Max having a chance
But all 3 have flaws
lavish rune
State them
valid shell
@lavish rune Housepets being murdered.
Emre's confirmed to be just a name for now.
And for Max? The only issue I see on my end is that he's already got an in-game player icon, which is super weird.
limpid agate
^
limpid agate
Yes, all heroes launch with 3 icons
2 random icons
And 1 of their face
Max has the third as an event exclusive icon
lavish rune
confused does that mean binges 3rd reason doesnt work?
limpid agate
No, it means Binge's third reason does work
valid shell
@lavish rune Max having a player icon prematurely goes against set patterns.
limpid agate
Blizzard likes to follow consistent patterns
🤷
I think its Jetpack Cat
With Emre and Max as number 2
lavish rune
doesnt seem likely
limpid agate
But all have flaws
lavish rune
becuase jetpack cat... think of that hitbo
valid shell
Emre's confirmed to be a literally who.
lavish rune
hitbox
lavish rune
ik this is lore not tgameplay
limpid agate
He was even redacted from Antonio's allies
valid shell
It is if you don't go into hitboxes.
lavish rune
but fighting a cat would be my nightmaer
valid shell
Dare I bite and ask why?
valid shell
Humoring the discussion I hate.
This would be close to the hitbox.
So far from small.
peak escarp
if anything was going to make me stop playing Overwatch, it would probably be jetpack cat
timid eagle
But why? I get Winston on his own is pretty ridiculous,
valid shell
Because as far as wacky talking animals go, a gorilla is pretty reasonable.
scarlet scarab
It is part of the reason why they havn't put Jetpack cat as a hero on their own I could see something to the effect of it being a side kick situation to augment a hero later
peak escarp
because they said they abandoned the idea of jetpack cat in the design phase because it was going too far into the unbelieveable
if they backtrack on that, what else will they throw into the game?
scarlet scarab
Well I don't mean as displayed here but more of like a Summoner type class. Might not fit into OW but it would be the only way I could see them implimenting anything remotly close to Jet pack Cat becasue it would make it too silly in eassence.
limpid agate
Whose to say they aren't one and the same
valid shell
Scroll up, we just discussed Hammond in length.
limpid agate
That's my thoughts on Hammond
hasty surge
it would be nice if they would continue the lore on winston and the moon
and I agree with the max one
I find it weird too when I got it
maybe they should rename the icon
valid shell
The name wouldn't change the fact that it's the same stylized silhouetted features as the other playable heroes.
If it was his whole body or something, it would be different.
peak escarp
also, they already set up jetpack cat as a joke with Brigitte's cat
limpid agate
Correct
peak escarp
I don't think they would use it again
limpid agate
On the contrary
That's exactly why I think they will use it again
That is the entire reason why I think Jetpack Cat is 28
peak escarp
that doesn't make any sense
limpid agate
Why not? Its a joke, sure, but in the absence of everyone else having nothing
It could also be the teaser
lean prawn
a genetically engineered cat, but probably not brigitte's
peak escarp
literally any other character we've seen has a better chance of being the next hero
limpid agate
No, not literally any character
The only ones who can compete at this point, in my eyes
Are Emre, Maximillien, and Sanjay
lean prawn
winston is a monkey
limpid agate
So
peak escarp
not a housecat strapped to a jetpack
lean prawn
hero 50 will be a potted plant
limpid agate
Every hero since Ana has been teased when the previous hero was released
silent tinsel
Where is Liao
limpid agate
I cant see that going away
peak escarp
when was Orisa teased during Sombra's release?
limpid agate
Blizzard likes teasing characters in the months leading up to their reveal
On the web, there was the quadraped linked to Numbani
lean prawn
i hope soundquake becomes a hero in the game
limpid agate
Plus there were other heavy Numbani hints in the months leading up to her reveal
lean prawn
or fusionator
limpid agate
Lots of people took it as Doomfist and just Doomfist
And lots of people were wrong.
valid shell
@lean prawn Fusionator (in some form) has almost become a hero twice now.
limpid agate
Same with Wildebeast.
valid shell
Yup.
lean prawn
tell me more
valid shell
They couldn't get poison attacks to work in a way that was satisfying and fair, so they changed the gas to frost, and that laid the groundwork for Mei.
(And Zarya, since they were similar in development.)
You can see a lot of Zarya here.
lean prawn
wildebeest was apparently an early rein concept
valid shell
Yup.
limpid agate
Wildebeast was an early Rein concept
He had a flail and was a from Numbani
Those parts of his design later became Orisa and Brigitte
valid shell
And all the Wildebeest concept art we see in-game is confused for Soundquake.
Or "Big Red".
limpid agate
However, with Recall, the character is still canon. They will probably never be a hero in spite of this
valid shell
Yeah, most of their kit and aesthetic has been gutted for Rein, Orisa, and Brig.
lean prawn
soundquake seems like an early lucio concept, just from the name
valid shell
Like Doomfist.
valid shell
Except people latched onto Doomfist, since it was the McGuffin in the Cinematic Trailer.
limpid agate
I dont think so. There are names that people latched onto more than Soundquake
Like Doomfist and Sombra who became heroes
Or Hammond and Liao who haven't yet, and might never be revealed
Also Emre might be among the popular names but he's still too new
lean prawn
i guess since soundquake is only connected to the cast because they was a part of overwatch, not many people are gonna be into them more
at least we know he has chest missles
valid shell
Like I said initially, Emre is probably just a plugged name to fluff the numbers of Operation White Dome, and to gauge the fanbase's interest.
valid shell
He just might.
But the blogposts aren't in the majority community's eyeline.
So I doubt many will know he even exists.
limpid agate
Liao though
valid shell
Junkertown Queen is much more likely for fandom buzz, since she's in your face in-game.
And in two OW videos.
limpid agate
I was mostly trying to pick disembodied names
lean prawn
we'll be waiting until june to find out if blizzard keeps up with the 3 month gap between new heroes
lean prawn
what would lynx do in the game though?
limpid agate
No one except people who read the lore want Sanjay
valid shell
Blizzard's pushing Sanjay, but the community doesn't care about him.
lean prawn
i dont think overwatch needs another debuffer
valid shell
Blizzard is EXPLICITLY avoiding ever touching on Liao, but people can't get enough of him.
limpid agate
She's too popular
lean prawn
liao is a she?
limpid agate
No idea
valid shell
And brought up in every screamlord Stylosa/onickel video.
And Lynx can be anything in-game, at the moment.
lean prawn
is this gif official? https://pa1.narvii.com/6656/1b510504c9685de723d56fd703421fa7c3e81341_hq.gif
valid shell
No.
Sure, they're a hacker, but that doesn't mean they'll step on Sombra's toes.
Nobody thought the skinny-ass Becky-looking nobody in Dragon Slayer would ever become a beefy powersuit brawler.
lean prawn
i think liao might be a she
valid shell
Source?
lean prawn
the canceled comic?
valid shell
First Strike?
lean prawn
unless that isn't considered canon
valid shell
There's nothing to suggest the kid on the cover is Liao, but it's the best we have.
On the contrary, it's because First Strike isn't canon anymore that makes it more likely that's Liao.
Because why else has Blizzard never mentioned them?
Because Liao is retconned into the dumpster with First Strike.
worthy rose
HEy guy
versed shuttle
dxw
valid shell
@worthy rose @versed shuttle Hm?
worthy rose
So i think like this why are pushing reyes to the talon more than just blend in and kill them 1 by 1 ?
valid shell
But he hasn't killed any of Talon since he joined the council.
Only Vialli has died, and that was Doomfist's doing.
Oh, and Akinjide.
worthy rose
Some people and my friend told me that reyes ready and alway wait for a chance but he realized that is too late too go back
valid shell
That's possible, but who knows.
Why was he trying to ice Winston, Tracer, Jack, and Ana if he's "actually good"?
worthy rose
Then the big question is why reyes try to destroy overwatch ?
And the list might be just a trick by reyes to pretend that he dare to kill overwatch member
worthy rose
And with all that i just think that Blackwatch might be the right spot for for the lore and it's self can solve many lore poinr
valid shell
Sure.
But it's already gotten a lot of exposure, while heroes like Lucio/Zenyatta/D.Va/Symmetra are still nobodies.
So Blackwatch and Talon can chill for a bit.
worthy rose
Yeah but for some reason i kinda hate how genji and hanzo never kinda meet each other and we never get to see the reason why the shimada shut down and the reason for hanzo to almost kill genji and what genji know
iron plume
Hanzo was told to kill genji because genji wasn't "doing right" by the clan with his lifestyle
worthy rose
But other than that why shimada shut down ? and what happen if hanzo join talon ?
iron plume
Overwatch took the shimada clan down
using information they got from Genji
Hanzo was already not there at that point, he left after killing genji
worthy rose
Oh that a dark moment right there
iron plume
What would happen if Hanzo joined talon is presumably they'd help him build up the clan under his leadership, establishing a foothold in Japan
which is why they want to recruit him
and Sojiro before then
but he doesn't want to because his plans don't align with that
worthy rose
I feel that the moment the rumor:Blizzard going to kill some one in the lore
I just hope is was symmetra
worthy rose
Her company just work for talon and we did see this be confirm and that mean she not the only one want the better future
Then there are many other can replace her
valid shell
Vishkar doesn't work for Talon.
Sanjay's on the council, yes. But he doesn't run Vishkar.
And you haven't explained why you hope she dies, other than "others can replace her".
worthy rose
And some lucio interact with hers state that the company she work for doing some fishy stuff
prisma wren
Whuts wrong with sym?
valid shell
That's what I'm trying to find out.
prisma wren
Syms awesome
valid shell
Yes, Symmetra works for a shady company. But she herself isn't evil.
She was just raised from childhood by Vishkar.
They gave her a career and a new arm.
prisma wren
Sombra is evil
valid shell
And indoctrinated her with believing she's creating a better world.
@prisma wren Nah.
prisma wren
Not Sym
valid shell
Neither of them are evil.
terse oak
prisma wren
i think widow is going to turn good again
prisma wren
theres a voice line that suggests it
valid shell
Share?
worthy rose
And what if the lore goes like this:Talon offering the better world for her(Wich is a lia) and kill her off after that
prisma wren
talking with grandma bout gerard
valid shell
@worthy rose Then it would be a waste of a character with a lot of potential.
prisma wren
blizz is hiding something about reaper
valid shell
I still don't understand why you want Symmetra to die. She's only just begun to mistrust Vishkar. She's at the beginning of her arc.
Killing her off now would be absolutely trash writing.
iron plume
it would make sense for them to kill her when she finds out and threatens to get it out
prisma wren
what tho?
iron plume
but since it is a story about heroes and symm is one, it doesn't
prisma wren
what could they be hiding
prisma wren
.................
valid shell
Sorry, but Reaper's been discussed to death since Retribution.
Give a side-character a chance.
prisma wren
i think sym is a bit weakminded
worthy rose
And afterward talon might kill her off afterward if she know too much
valid shell
Nah, she's explicitly intelligent. She's just been cut off from the world and homeschooled by Vishkar since childhood.
valid shell
Wew.
terse oak
Shitposting will result in loss of access
valid shell
Anyways, away from death threats.
prisma wren
ok
worthy rose
Ok but it's there anything left for we to explore about reaper
prisma wren
@terse oak im srry
terse oak
It's ok, just be warned
prisma wren
PLs no profanity
valid shell
If we're discussing Reaper, I'm checking out. He's an interesting character, but I'm so bloody tired of talking about him.
worthy rose
Zara just focusing on Sombra due to the fact:Sombra blackmail her "nation heroes"
valid shell
And Zarya's suspicious of Volskaya at the end of Searching.
prisma wren
valid shell
So now she's open to develop, like Symmetra.
prisma wren
valid shell
Stop.
prisma wren
k
valid shell
Use your words instead of pictures, please.
terse oak
@prisma wren You're on thin ice
valid shell
You're not cavemen.
worthy rose
The same can goes to reinhart and briggite
worthy rose
we actually just know some small detail and what are she doing right now more than just a sidekick for rein
valid shell
Well, they're going to rendezvous with Winston's Overwatch.
worthy rose
Then at some point in the story we can she herself alone
valid shell
Along with Tracer, Mei, and maybe Genji/Torb/Bastion.
worthy rose
And she hate overwatch tho
iron plume
She doesn't hate overwatch
worthy rose
The brigg
iron plume
she's not fully on board with Rein's decision but she doesn't hate the org
worthy rose
And she did say this:After all you did they forget and leave you in the rein shory
short
valid shell
And Chu says this: https://i.gyazo.com/c01dc9662735b5a86ab077880d475f1b.png
She doesn't hate Overwatch.
worthy rose
I changed my mind
terse oak
That's the spirit
valid shell
Knowing all the facts will do that.
worthy rose
But i have some kinda weird question:How much we know about akande aka doomfist ?
And i might hope that Widowmaker husband might return
valid shell
Gerard is dead.
It would be a disservice to Widowmaker's character for him to have lived.
silent tinsel
I don't believe that last part
valid shell
Then let's just have Harold Winston still be alive. And Antonio. And both Doomfists before Akande.
Since it just doesn't matter.
silent tinsel
And I agree with binge this one
terse oak
Do we know that Harold is dead?
worthy rose
One of the most favorite quote:IF we dont see the body that mean He/she don't dead
terse oak
Sorry I'm behind the loop on this one
valid shell
And we've seen a grave.
iron plume
the fact that he's dead is an immense part of widowmaker's characterization
valid shell
Arguably the most important part of it, considering her name's Widowmaker, and she Made herself a Widow.
silent tinsel
That's why we have lore master
young raptor
just cuz theres a grave doesnt mean theres a body
quasi schooner
TBH, Antonio could be very easily alive, but undercover
worthy rose
Lots of comic and film did that
quasi schooner
Is there a full list of people who are “dead”?
iron plume
properly dead or thought to be dead
quasi schooner
“Dead”, so thought to be dead
worthy rose
Dont forget antonio
worthy rose
Oh ok
iron plume
Antonio is dead until and unless confirmed otherwise
worthy rose
oh
quasi schooner
I mean “dead”, as in though to be dead, but none is actually sure, e.g. Antonio
iron plume
you can speculate "no one is actually sure" about anyone
there is no in-universe suggestion that Antonio might not be dead
quasi schooner
They never saw the body, I believe there is actually part of the aftermath of rest thatcsattes this
- that states
If reaper was already talon at the time of the Venice incident, he could of faked their death with a blank
iron plume
blanks don't send people flying through a window
quasi schooner
Is it possible to be only gunpowder, or that he just learnt back very far through the window
worthy rose
And that mission was to confirm antonio dead
terse oak
Why would Reaper even want to take Antonio alive, or fake his death
iron plume
if you're going with that stupid theory at least say Antonio had space armor or whatever
terse oak
He was angry at the death of his friend
iron plume
not that reaper shot blanks
worthy rose
But reyes know what happen so he got the right purpose to kill Antonio
quasi schooner
I guess special armour makes sense. He probs wore a bulletproof vest
worthy rose
You do know that Antonio did expect that blackwatch Doesnt kill him right ?
So why did he need an special Bulletproof vest
valid shell
Can't wear a bulletproof vest over your face.
worthy rose
And Jack did state that he only agree that Blackwatch torture antonio for information
But reyes loose his temper
worthy rose
And with that distance with a shotgun then the death is who he meet
valid shell
Antonio is dead.
worthy rose
a bulletproof vest won't protect you from a shotgun up close
it's not bullet "proof" per se
dire timber
@quasi schooner Antonio is dead, without a shadow of doubt.
In the aftermath, McCree goes on to say, "our target was dead"
hasty surge
Speaking of Antonio, Viali is also an arms dealer
valid shell
Of course.
Blackwatch killed Antonio, not his caches and connections in Italy.
Of course another Italian would pick up where he left off.
teal meadow
the pope
valid shell
@teal meadow ?
dire timber
I wonder if Vialli could be some sort of corrupt law enforcement official
Reyes quite literally said "don't know too much about him", so there's little solid info
regal coyote
maybe he did not do anything drastic or interesting
so basically he is just continuing what had happened, but did not cause any trouble besides gethering wealth
prisma brook
Fredrick Ovolo is apparently teased as an upcoming hero. Anybody heard of him?
peak escarp
never heard that name before
shrewd folio
@prisma brook who is he
valid shell
@prisma brook Source?
valid shell
Wasn't very funny.
drowsy wadi
I know
hasty surge
@prisma brook the name isn't creative enough
Most of us know it's a fake straight away
alpine eagle
Hello..
drowsy wadi
Hi
peak escarp
someone posted a question on reddit and I think it has some promise
could the Petra map be Mercy's home base?
she was in the middle east as of Reflections
paper gazelle
I thought her home base was in Zurich?
peak escarp
in Recall when her icon popped up on the globe she was in the middle east somewhere, and in Reflections she's seen in a field medic tent
paper gazelle
"field medic tent"
I think it's supposed to be a Swiss Chalet, according to Fandom
paper gazelle
Not restaurant
peak escarp
it's clearly a tent of some kind
paper gazelle
Hmmm
Anyway it's stated clearly on the official website that her base of operations is in Zurich, not in the Middle East.
So Petra is most probably not her home base.
limpid agate
Petras is that famous cave structure
Its been in lots of movies
Its where the Holy Grail was in The Last Crusade
I'd be surprised if that was Mercy's base of operations
olive current
Potential for a hero from Jordan/Middle East?
limpid agate
No
We still have older maps with no native heroes
Most noteably Ilios
Thailand as well. And while Oasis does have a hero related to it, there are no Iraqi heroes.
Also, now that we have Rialto
Italy can join that party of countries with a map but no hero
USA has the most with 3 maps. Germany, Egypt, the UK, and Mexico all have 2. (Also Australia if you count Lucioball)
olive current
True. A Greek character would be fantastic with mythological references.
Kinda doubt Blizzard would spring for a hero from fairly controversial countries, at least in recent years. Map will be good though
open socket
I actually agree with that. Maybe they could add something with Norse mythology as well. Personally I like both Greek and Norse mythology because I find it fascinating, so I'd like to see some skins that have to do with that. Plus, who doesn't want to see mercy as a Greek goddess?
buoyant thunder
That’s norse
buoyant thunder
Actually greek
open socket
It'd be interesting to me.
buoyant thunder
In theory this Hercules like character would be attack, defense, tank and support
*could
limpid agate
I dont understand what you mean
oblique nebula
hercules would be a doomfist like character
solar inlet
Why dose zarya not like torb what did he do
oblique nebula
he made the robots that killed her family
solar inlet
Ohhh ok
Thank
Is that in a comic that i haven’t read probably
Cus I haven’t read like any comic
oblique nebula
yeah im pretty sure it is
timid eagle
Reinhardt getting an Odin-themed skin would be wild.
We got Viking Torbjorn and Sigrún Mercy, and I generally have a bigger fondness to the skins that are not tied to an event.
misty torrent
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valid shell
Y'all thirsty.
timid eagle
Cyber Hanzo is still my favourite skin for the hero.
Now I'm waiting for a "What If?" skin that has him as the cyborg and Genji as if he didn't go through that process of getting chopped up into little pieces.
valid shell
That's Cyberninja Hanzo.
I know you're imagining Cyborg Hanzo to be just a blue Genji with a bow, but that's not how silhouettes work.
hasty surge
anyone noticed? on her Pink Mercy Skin she has black spots on her shoulder and back
peak escarp
I saw those
she doesn't have them in any other skin, so I think they're exclusive to that skin (ie not canon)
timid eagle
Could also be a texture update.
valid shell
Or some low-key skin cancer awareness.
peak escarp
yeah that's what I was guessing
new moles/skin spots can be an early sign of skin cancer
peak escarp
well, if you've always had them you're probably fine
but if you suddenly have moles where you didn't have them before, get them checked out
valid shell
Honestly, a lot of your skin is precancerous. It's not as bad as it sounds.
timid eagle
Well, time to die.
It was nice knowing you all.
I'll see you in that big LAN party in the sky.
sturdy fable
Wow I’ll need to look at that skin then
quasi schooner
Intentional tho?
dire timber
so, when's that OWL event announcement coming up?
iron plume
Saturday?
cunning ledge
chu's probably there to give map lore
maybe even some sort of announcement for actual lore?
iron plume
it's gonna be during a game break most likely
cunning ledge
". Be sure to tune in during halftime of the day’s first and second matches—Philadelphia Fusion vs. Florida Mayhem (starting at 1 p.m. PDT) and Shanghai Dragons vs. Los Angeles Valiant (scheduled for 3 p.m. PDT)—for appearances and announcements by assistant game director Aaron Keller and lead writer Michael Chu."
iron plume
oh halftime
nice
cunning ledge
lore? in my esports?
iron plume
still more relevant than what they usually talk about at halftime
cunning ledge
ok prediction time
it's another decently high effort map trailer like the plan
and chu's there it explain it for the 98% of the playerbase who don't care about lore
iron plume
lmao
yeah that would make sense
cunning ledge
there's no way it's a cinematic because at this point they probably don't think they can afford to not hype them up
maybe lore skins revealed too?
chu could explain the backstory of those
there was that one suspiciously not lore skin in archives
maybe they saved the lore one that was going to go then for now
¯_(ツ)_/¯
worthy rose
Hey guy
cunning ledge
greetings @worthy rose
cold wolf
hi
valid shell
@cold wolf ?
limpid agate
Chu making an announcement?
Gotta be Petra
Unless its somehow lore skins outside Archives
Like Masquerade skins
And Blizz sends him out, saying
"Don't forget, you're the one responsible for this" "You tell me doc"
white cobalt
Petra for chu, sure
and the other guy presenting the skins
No lore in this event, sadly
peak escarp
the stop-motion thing might have something
white cobalt
Which event was the one with the statues? Summer games?
i mean the background menu.
peak escarp
that was for the World Cup, wasn't it?
limpid agate
^
peak escarp
I liked that background
frosty star
^
valid shell
Funko Pops.
worthy rose
yeah, white background is good for making memes
and also making new skins visible without clutter
peak escarp
it's good for checking the colour of things without the lighting giving it a weird tone
the lighting in the game is beautiful sometimes, but when I need a colour reference for art or cosplay, I want bright white light
drowsy wadi
Also i just fucking love all of the complaints of the White backround being to bright
On the forums last year
Like are you some sort of cave goblin who dosent have light in his house??
worthy rose
they are kobolds
white cobalt
They're still complaining, and well is blizz forums,.
Anyways back to lore, i dunno what to think about the next hero, for some reason im expecting a canadian or thai/filipino hero instead Hammond or any of the NPC. We already have most heros around the globe: Asia (Mei, D.va, Hanzo, Genji) Mid East (Ana, Pharah) NA (Sombra, Soldier, Reaper, McCree) EU (Mercy, Brig, Rein, Torb, Zarya), South America ( Lucio), South Asia (Symm, Junk, Roadhog), Africa (Orisa, Doomfist).
Maybe a lack of South America and Greenland
iron plume
@peak escarp I still have the world cup background as wallpaper, it's great
if we're going by continents, SA is the clear choice
but we have no leads there
peak escarp
more SA heroes would be nice
white cobalt
Emre was/could be a nice addition to Mid East.
low axle
Racist Omnic Hero is what we need. Perhaps one from Russia where the crisis is still going on.
iron plume
So, non-aware bastion
white cobalt
But yeah, we dont have hints or something for agents/villains/neutral
iron plume
because there's nothing to suggest there are civilian omnics in russia
low axle
There is also nothing to suggest that all russian omnics aren't self aware either
given that we saw volskya trading with one
iron plume
not fighting at least
we saw her trading with an omnic
not necessarily a russian omnic
low axle
Either way. Its wrong to assume that all Omnics fighting in Russia would not be self aware.
limpid agate
On the other hand
limpid agate
I'd imagine its not unlike the first Crisis
Plus, let's look at Null Sector
How self aware do you think they were
Especially the detonators
low axle
We already been over this. They likely used non-self aware omnics as fodder, but I would assume some of them were aware.
Else they wouldn't really be uprising unless some guy was just trying to be a dick and made killer death robots
empty rain
So I have a source from blizzard ummm what's a character that's hinted at in a lot of maps you guys think?
valid shell
@empty rain What do you mean, a source from Blizzard?
empty rain
I'd rather not say •-•
valid shell
Like. Your cool uncle is on the HotS team? Or you just saw a convincing 4chan post.
empty rain
I have a friend who works there....
valid shell
Well, if you'd rather not say anything, why bring it up?
empty rain
She can't tell me who Bc she sworn to secrecy but she gave me a hint at that the next hero is obvious and told me Anna is getting buffed with her ammo capacity
valid shell
Then tell us the hint.
empty rain
The hint is that it's a tank or Dps for sure the next one
She said there's hints on maps that's all Ik
valid shell
Boy, a tank or DPS after two healers in a row?
Really making some outlandish predictions.
Besides, gameplay roles belongs in #overwatch
limpid agate
The next hero is obvious
There are no obvious teasers. If there was, you should be able to say who you think is obviously the next hero yourself.
Anna is getting buffed
We know this its already on PTR.
Tank or DPS
So not a support after we got two in a row?
Hints on maps
Safe guess considering we had no major teasers with Brig.
So if you're gonna come in here with "Blizzard leaks"
At least try next time.
pearl blade
Fuckin destroyed. Nice
limpid agate
Don't waste our time with fake leaks. This is your final warning
empty rain
Sorry I got this information 2 weeks ago I haven't kept up with the information that's come out
Also first time on discord so sorry
limpid agate
There are no obvious teasers. If there was, you should be able to say who you think is obviously the next hero yourself.```So who do you think is obvious 28
Not asking for your fake leak stuff
Who is, in your opinion
The obvious 28
low axle
Easy. Its Jetpack cat.
empty rain
I couldn't say I'd rather ask my friend tonight when she's on
limpid agate
She can't tell me who
You're contradicting yourself now
I am not asking about your fake leak bullshit
I'm asking
polar tendon
Yes
limpid agate
Who do you think is hero 28
polar tendon
Someone
buoyant creek
🍿 🥂
empty rain
I just said I couldn't say old ass leaks are all I got
limpid agate
Heroes are set in production for about 6-8 months
If your fake leak is 2 weeks old
That aint gonna change shit
polar tendon
So
limpid agate
For the last time
I dont care about your fake leak
You continue with that, you will be remove
What I am asking is
Who do YOU think hero 28 is
polar tendon
I want to know the fake Leak
limpid agate
@polar tendon Its posted above, and its vaguer than anything else.
New hero is obvious, has map teasers, and is either tank or dps
polar tendon
@limpid agate thanks
buoyant creek
My unborn nephew works for Apple and says the next hero has two arms and a handgun
limpid agate
@buoyant creek Shitposting will result in a loss of access
buoyant creek
Oops, sorry
empty rain
Yup I'm dropping it
valid shell
Good plan.
valid shell
A male from South America, Southeast Asia, or the Caribbean who is barely related to Overwatch or Talon.
empty rain
A tank is what I'm think about along those lines^^
limpid agate
Gameplay != Lore
@buoyant creek I want Sanjay or Max, but I am expecting Jetpack Cat.
peak escarp
I expect someone we've never seen before
polar tendon
Jetpack Cat nah
buoyant creek
I actually kind of like the idea of someone not related to Overwatch or Talon
empty rain
Yeah the idea is that Overwatch was recalled
buoyant creek
An Orisa-esque hero that exists as a result of the fallout
Except maybe not so literally
limpid agate
We have plenty of third party characters. They're just all launch characters or girls
Or rather
All launch characters or Orisa
low axle
Hmm Yanno we have gotten alot of female characters
could use a few more male ones
crosses fingers
empty rain
True
polar tendon
A hot Female lol
empty rain
Eh we've had lots of new girl characters I want a new male hero
polar tendon
A hot male
peak escarp
another female hero would make the game >50% female
low axle
I wouldn't be mad about 😛 A hot male or like I said before an evil racist omnic
well I guess He wouldn't be racist so much as specist right?
buoyant creek
They removed a line bashing religion from junkrat so I highly doubt they'd do that
low axle
I'd play him. Being the bad guy is always fun why I lean towards Talon heros
polar tendon
I would love to play a racist guy
buoyant creek
Also I might be projecting but people want to play as conniving villains or valiant heroes
Not a racist jerk
valid shell
They're obviously not going to make a playable racist. Wtf are you guys even on about.
buoyant creek
Yeah lol
low axle
They kinda already did though
limpid agate
@polar tendon They have 2 racists already