lore-discussion

[tranquil orbit]

please

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Zarya looks ethnically European but her town is in Asia

[hushed jetty]

i find the polynesian league stuff super cool

[dense nebula]

Hawaii is cool and all, but when we getting Tahiti

Is Tahiti even mentioned in lore?

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I need a Mars colonny map since we know that Space Ranger comes from there

[hushed jetty]

mauga mentions it exactly once

there was a deepsea raider mission there presumably

[dense nebula]

All the evidence I need

[hushed jetty]

overwatch was there, they fought

[ruby ridge]

I want a payload map that’s like in Sicily or some island where the payload travels right next to the ocean I’d feel it’d be really cool

[dense nebula]

Fun fact: Mauga’s VA isn’t Samoan, he’s Maori apparently

[ruby ridge]

Yeah he’s from new zeal and

zealand

[dense nebula]

New Zeal AND Zealand?

[digital linden]

i’m surprised we don’t have an irish map yet

[dense nebula]

Impressive

[hushed jetty]

every hero should get a map of their homeland if you asked me

[ruby ridge]

It would be nice

But too much work I guess

[tranquil orbit]

cork might be cool

[hushed jetty]

or at least a map directly connected to them

[drifting viper]

Yeah

[digital linden]

nahhh😭

[hushed jetty]

like lw should either get a thai map or there should be a vishkar academy map

[tranquil orbit]

it'd be jokes

[hushed jetty]

or an atlantic arcology map CMONNNNN

[ruby ridge]

Like there’s 3 Italian maps and not a Italian hero

Greece

[twilit patrol]

Fr

[ruby ridge]

What else

[tranquil orbit]

almost defo gonna happen

altho technically esperanca is kinda that

[twilit patrol]

3 Italian maps?

[ruby ridge]

Iraq has 2, one has Moira ig

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the closest we have

[hushed jetty]

rialto, uhhhh

[ruby ridge]

Rome, malavalento and Rialto

[hushed jetty]

ah rome

[twilit patrol]

Oh yeah

[hushed jetty]

i forgor

[digital linden]

malavento is so pretty

[twilit patrol]

I love them

Colosseo is so nice

[digital linden]

it’s a talon base too so potential for an italian talon character

[hushed jetty]

which one is malavento again

[ruby ridge]

Death a tech one

[digital linden]

deathmatch map i think

[ruby ridge]

Deathmatch

[hushed jetty]

oh
L

[drifting viper]

[twilit patrol]

Yes I like it

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cape town would be a nice inclusion

[ruby ridge]

There is a Thai map actually

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just another african map

[twilit patrol]

And I'm glad to say it

[ruby ridge]

But it was made before lifeweaver

[hushed jetty]

which one

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because since temple of anubis got removed

[digital linden]

ayutthaya?

[ruby ridge]

Yeah

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it's been only numbani

[hushed jetty]

oh right

[ruby ridge]

Tha one

[digital linden]

that one’s pretty

[hushed jetty]

cape town map would be goated bc its been mentioned before

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wait frrrr

[ruby ridge]

Africa and South America (especially SA) has been heavily neglected in overwatch

Like ffs we only had lucio before illari

[hushed jetty]

the location i mean not specifically a map for it

[digital linden]

i was so excited for a peru map when illari was teased

[ruby ridge]

We have Lucio and illari and Paraiso literal crumbs

[hushed jetty]

my dumb ass was about to say sombra

[twilit patrol]

I think there will be a Peru map and it's a push one

But we didn't get it yet :/

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they also neglect south america in the esports scene

[digital linden]

hopefully soon

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so they do it on all fronts

time to change that imo

[ruby ridge]

Like Oceania has more heroes then South America

[digital linden]

it’d be cool if it was illari’s home place wherever she lived and u could see the ruins of her explosion

[ruby ridge]

That’s insane

[ruby ridge]

It is

That’s the map

[digital linden]

oh good

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i think a tierra del fuego map would be dope

[digital linden]

do we know when illari actually caused that explosion or was it very recent in the lore

[ruby ridge]

Plus venture being another Canadian hero is kinda boring but I guess it’s fine

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she's 18

so recent

[hushed jetty]

venture is either gonna be first nations or from quebec

[digital linden]

yh

[ruby ridge]

Probably like 2 years ago from the timeline or present day

[hushed jetty]

its said that it happened bc "she was too powerful"

whatever that means

[tranquil orbit]

yooo venture being quebecois is a shout

i never even considered

[twilit patrol]

We're supposed to get the new Clash mode and the Peru map is not gonna be a Clash map so I doubt

[hushed jetty]

we dont even know when cladh is coming

[ruby ridge]

And I wonder what space ranger’s ethnic roots are, she looks either European or East Asian

[hushed jetty]

im presuming asian

especially bc space

lijang enterprises
yk how it be

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ppl saying she might be chinese or vietnamese?

[twilit patrol]

I think it's still possible that we'd get it in s10 or s11

[hushed jetty]

vietnamese would be goated

[twilit patrol]

Koth?

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nah push

[hushed jetty]

peru is a push map

[twilit patrol]

Yes I know

I was talking to Wangtang

[hushed jetty]

flashpoint

[twilit patrol]

That's flashpoint my bad

[hushed jetty]

couple seasons ago

[twilit patrol]

Season 6

[ruby ridge]

I assume we can expect clash and pve drop in s12

They’re probably doing it every 6 seasons

[twilit patrol]

Possible

[hushed jetty]

that makes sense

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pve being slowed down is gonna be so sad

[hushed jetty]

copery though

[twilit patrol]

Dropping story missions every 6 seasons doesn't make sense

At this point we won't get every of them until 2050

[hushed jetty]

lmfao

inwouldnt say THAT

thats a once a year drop, ish

[twilit patrol]

Lmao

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the fact that they laid off the lead narrative designer and still havent appointed a new one

is alarm bells

[hushed jetty]

i will never forgive them for firing gavin

hes so goated

[ruby ridge]

I think that’s what they kinda want

[twilit patrol]

Yeah

[ruby ridge]

I don’t think they wanna ever end ow’s storyline geniunely

[twilit patrol]

Fucking sucks

[hushed jetty]

theres only so much they can do

[drifting viper]

They can't

[hushed jetty]

• defeat null sector
• defeat talon
• defeat a secret 3rd threat

like what else is there

[ruby ridge]

They’ll probably keep on adding threats with new heroes

[drifting viper]

I dont think theyd ever make major changes to overwatch

[hushed jetty]

thatd be lame

[drifting viper]

Like talon being defeated

[ruby ridge]

There’s the whole conspiracy thing with sombra

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talon wont ever be gone i agree

[twilit patrol]

There's also one map that was teased but we didn't get it yet

The Altantic Arcology

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it's new

[ruby ridge]

It’s not a theory

[worthy rose]

Live service games don't know when to end their stories

[ruby ridge]

There’s some overlying organization called the conspiracy that brought down ow

[hushed jetty]

not technically new but it got lore w heroes ascendant apparently

[ruby ridge]

Sombra is trying to find it

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it's an eye 2 3 dots if im not mistaken

[hushed jetty]

...
👁️
...

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yh like that

also i think they can cook something w this mirror dimension thing and sigma

[hushed jetty]

mirror dimension is gonna go CRAZY

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because he's met extra dimensional beings before

[ruby ridge]

Anyway as long as the game is profitable I imagine they’ll keep extending the story again and again

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and we know it's a battle pass theme

[ruby ridge]

Wait yeah

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like what if sigma has met some of the mirror dimension versions of characters

[hushed jetty]

i wouldnt say all THAT

[ruby ridge]

Mirror@dimension should fall@on season 12

Interesting

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i mean we dont know what he's seen through that black hole

[worthy rose]

The mythic Ramattra Zen gonna go crazy

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he's met the iris

[hushed jetty]

im praying for mirror dimension s10 personally

either reaper or soldier mythic TRUST

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so he mightve met some of the mirror dimension ppl

[hushed jetty]

that mightve been him saying random shit tbf

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like what if he knows like evil tracer or non psycho moira

[hushed jetty]

he's kinda. nuts

[ruby ridge]

How long do you guys think they can keep making heroes before too much overlap?

[hushed jetty]

the iris isnt exactly something you can "meet" anyway its just some Thing in the mountains

[worthy rose]

Marvel collab with a doc ock skin for Illari

[ruby ridge]

Like they already started doing niche hero concepts with Lw and illari charge

[hushed jetty]

a good while

[tranquil orbit]

he says he's met it though

[hushed jetty]

he says a lot of things

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tru

[worthy rose]

Even Zenyatta is off put by it

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but i think he acc makes sense more often than not

[twilit patrol]

That's complicated

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sigma has seen things

[hushed jetty]

zenyatta was very ????? when he heard it

[past copper]

This is literally the Iris

Sigma couldn’t have met it

[ruby ridge]

Yeah sigmas just insane

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tru but what if he met like an extra dimensional version of it

or just aurora's consciousness

[hushed jetty]

what does that even mean

now meeting aurora's consciousness would be goated but a little insane

[drifting viper]

my headcannon is that sigma has met the iris in some 4th dimensionional plain that only he can see

[past copper]

You’re pitching headcanons

[tranquil orbit]

agreed

[ruby ridge]

My headcanon is that sigma should already be dying from old age he’s so@annoying

[hushed jetty]

he's like 65 😭

[worthy rose]

He's a zoomer

[ruby ridge]

I think venture is gonna be like 24-27 and space ranger 22-24

[past copper]

Sigma is just mentally disabled. His mind is neither here nor there

[drifting viper]

Sigma was playing fortnite in his day

[hushed jetty]

22 year old astronaut

[tranquil orbit]

trusttttt sigma knows more than he's letting on

[hushed jetty]

space ranger might be more like 30 i feel

[tranquil orbit]

he only doesnt make sense because ppl arent on his level of understanding

[hushed jetty]

next support, season 12

[ruby ridge]

Wasent she born in the mars colony

[drifting viper]

What if this is only a symbol of the iris

[hushed jetty]

she is "from" there

[worthy rose]

There's probably gonna be a " i'm ___ in Mars years" line

[hushed jetty]

we dont know if she was Born there

[past copper]

It’s literally the Iris. Aurora created it through her sacrifice

[drifting viper]

Whos Aurora

[ruby ridge]

The season 14 tank I just imagine he can curl up into a spiked wrecking ball or so,etching

[hushed jetty]

aurora is the first sentient omnic

[twilit patrol]

Space Ranger will be a support and she comes from the Mars colonny

[past copper]

🤦‍♂️

[hushed jetty]

we dont know

all we got is a placeholder image

[tranquil orbit]

point is idt it's crazy to think sigma's somehow interacting w aurora's consciousness which might still be floating abt somewhere

[twilit patrol]

her* but yes

[drifting viper]

[ruby ridge]

Oh yeah we’re gonna be able to test venture the next week probably since it’s the mid season update

Or later

[hushed jetty]

this is space ranger

[twilit patrol]

I don't know

[drifting viper]

Another flying hero for console players to deal with

[hushed jetty]

we dont know anything about her apart from she's a support that is "from the mars colony"

[tranquil orbit]

tbf it might be short flight like echo

[drifting viper]

Could be

[past copper]

Literally, Aurora’s sentience was a one in a million chance. A chance that has since never been replicated. With the exception being to replicate the same event through Aurora to free her fellow omincs

Unfortunately, it cost her very existence to do so

[twilit patrol]

Mauga part 2?

Wdym

[hushed jetty]

the guy under mauga is the next tank

[tranquil orbit]

some turtle looking mf

[hushed jetty]

he looks like a joy to be around really

idk

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reminds me of torterra

[hushed jetty]

personally i think itd be weird if we got a THIRD animal tank

[drifting viper]

yeah where are the animal dps

[past copper]

Some theories vary, but one is that a random stray particle entered the circuit at exactly the right moment to give Aurora sentience. Hence why it cannot be replicated again. But that’s just one theory

[hushed jetty]

maybe they juat kinda Look like an animal

[tranquil orbit]

their loss for not doing jetpack cat

they still need his printed shirt

yhhh

w the sunglasses

[twilit patrol]

Fr

It looks cool

[hushed jetty]

and the talon armor

we need that too

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it'll come eventually im sure

[hushed jetty]

ye

god he looks ugly in the short im sorry
the style is not doing him any favors

[tranquil orbit]

the other characters got their unique skins from their animated shorts like junker queen

[hushed jetty]

lw STILL doesnt have a skin from his origin story btw

[past copper]

Interesting fact: Overwatch had actually worked with the Caribbean Coalition before their shutdown

[hushed jetty]

lw has one billion skins

[tranquil orbit]

i forgot him too

w the lab coat

needed

it's a good look

[hushed jetty]

lw has cleric, harbinger, uh

ok that might be it

lotus

the green one with the flowers on his head

[ruby ridge]

Lw got a skin every season except season 8

[past copper]

Note how they kinda got lazy with Lunar New Year Skins

[ruby ridge]

I make bad financial decisions (collecting every Lw skin)

[past copper]

Sigma still ain’t got a Lunar New Year Skin yet

[tranquil orbit]

they also need the new dance emotes

[hushed jetty]

to this day im waiting for a king reinhardt halloween skin

[past copper]

Mercy isn’t German fool

[twilit patrol]

She's not German lmao

Only Rein is German

[hushed jetty]

YES

sojourn got one with the formal skin

[ruby ridge]

Lw has

Phi ta kon l (s4)
Lotus e (s4)
Cleric (s5)
Synthwave (s6)
Ghostbloom e (s7)
Harbinger (s9)

[past copper]

Mercy is from Switzerland

[hushed jetty]

and kiri got one with the collab

so SURELY ram will have his time soon right. right. right.

[tranquil orbit]

ram needs some good skins asap

since that poseidon one

theyve been lacking

[hushed jetty]

diesel baron was so ugly i fear

[past copper]

Saying the Swiss, Swedish, n German are the same sounds kinda… you know

[hushed jetty]

im so sad he didnt get a cosmic skin

[tranquil orbit]

also that biohazard or whatever it's called skin

looked v good for reaper but they kinda messed up ram's head when they made it

[twilit patrol]

Fr

[hushed jetty]

i am a construction ram enjoyer

[tranquil orbit]

ram will probably be first pick for a mirror dimension skin

[hushed jetty]

ram has only one good voice line too its tragic

[ruby ridge]

I’m fine with Angela zhang the Asian queen getting skins as long as others also get it

I’d know

[hushed jetty]

angela zhang 😭

[past copper]

Maybe next season they’ll add better skins, but mostly looks like they’re adding the good skins to BP more than shop

Kinda a step in the right direction I guess

[worthy rose]

THE GALAXY THE GALAXY THE GALAXY I do not fight for THE GALAXY

[hushed jetty]

i was talking about the valentine one acktually

[worthy rose]

I love spamming the galaxy as ram

[twilit patrol]

[worthy rose]

Next to thank you Baptiste

[ruby ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/peaches-stan-dreyadagod-empty-emptyshopping-gif-21773904

[tranquil orbit]

YOU NEED A BANDAGE FOR THAT? AHHHH BEHIND YOU

[ruby ridge]

The Asian heroes looking for their LNY skins after mercy got there first

[past copper]

Regardless, this is getting outta hand now. As skins aren’t lore discussion

[worthy rose]

The real "null sector..." BEHIND YOU! AAAHHH!

100 pushups 100 pushups 100 pushups

[hushed jetty]

so how about them (checks notes) countries

[tranquil orbit]

IM READY FOR SOME PUDDING

[twilit patrol]

And dey say

[hushed jetty]

what the hellw ere we even talking abt before

[twilit patrol]

I hate hot cocoa

[past copper]

Now you’re just spamming voicelines. Get off Lore-Discussion if you’re gonna do that

[tranquil orbit]

don't cry...

[twilit patrol]

!!shitposting

[worthy rose]

The best voiceline combo is "I'm dressed to kill - black is my lucky color"

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[past copper]

What if I get a mod in here to end this spamming

[hushed jetty]

anyway, mirror dimension am i right

reaper mythic im telling you
wed get to hear reyes' voice agian

[tranquil orbit]

id place bets on tracer, ram, moira, reaper

[hushed jetty]

soldier's up there too

tracer already has a mythic

so does moira

[tranquil orbit]

nah not for mythics

just to be included

[hushed jetty]

ah

[tranquil orbit]

i think evil tracer and good moira are pretty obvious picks

[hushed jetty]

evil tracer would be kinda an L if you asked me
no one cares abt tracer

now, evil winston.

[tranquil orbit]

nah evil tracer > evil winston

[drifting viper]

Evil winston is more funny

[worthy rose]

Bastion gets a mythic where he talks

[hushed jetty]

good lord

id cry

[worthy rose]

Bastion's mirror dimension is that he has vocal chords

[tranquil orbit]

what if in the mirror dimension reinhardt died in honor and glory and brig joined talon

[twilit patrol]

Are you sure the topic is about lore?

[worthy rose]

We talk about lore and headcanon/au stuff here pretty much all the time

[past copper]

Honestly, next mythic will either be tank or dps. It appears random

[tranquil orbit]

tank almost certainly

[past copper]

Note how it was DPS, TANK, SUPPORT

[tranquil orbit]

acc wait

i forgot abt orisa

cos it was so bad

[past copper]

BUT THAN SWITCHED IT AROUND

[hushed jetty]

this misses the orisa and moira mythics

[past copper]

Orisa got a mythic and people who hate it still at this point have issues

[hushed jetty]

so im predicting dps mythic bc its been a while

[tranquil orbit]

i think it might be sombra

[worthy rose]

I'm telling you

Mythic Bastion where he has speaking lines

[tranquil orbit]

one of the devs said a whike back that they had something even better than her le sserafim colab one

so it's likely a mythic

[past copper]

Bastion will never speak. He doesn’t have the tech to do so

[hushed jetty]

completely untrue btw

[worthy rose]

Mirror Dimension Bastion

[hushed jetty]

i suppose its not possible to give bastion a voice box but i wonder why

[tranquil orbit]

mirror dimension bastion is part of null sector for sure

got given vocal chords by ram

[hushed jetty]

bastion already has a null sector skin anyway

[past copper]

Won’t happen. Especially since Bastion doesn’t have a voice actor using speaking roles

[worthy rose]

Mirror Dimension is always good to evil or evil to good with y'all

[worthy rose]

They find one for the mythic

[hushed jetty]

thatd be a Lot of work

[worthy rose]

It'd be worth

[hushed jetty]

that i dont think theyre doing

[past copper]

Ok. But. They won’t

[worthy rose]

I would

[hushed jetty]

theyd have to redo every damn line

ana, jq

widow

[worthy rose]

I'd be like bobby kotick except instead of putting all resources into a failing project I'd put it towards something people actually want

[tranquil orbit]

didnt reaper also have that hazmat one

that was pretty cool

[hushed jetty]

oh bp right

mb

[worthy rose]

Illari's new skin ate

[hushed jetty]

s8 was generally mid anyway

[past copper]

Bastion is the easiest hero to manage with everything. Especially with the voicelines. They’re not gonna change that

[tranquil orbit]

for a mythic though i think it's possible

[hushed jetty]

yeah theyre not redoing every damn voice line with him saying words

thatd be Dumb

[tranquil orbit]

i mean they changed a lot for the other ones

[worthy rose]

I would do it

[hushed jetty]

but theyd have to do EVERY line

[worthy rose]

Because I'm dedicated

[tranquil orbit]

true but it'd also be a v good selling point

[hushed jetty]

plus itd make it confusing in game. who the hell is this Man

[tranquil orbit]

tbf this is the same team that got fucking dee bradley baker on their voice cast only to use him for a hamter

[hushed jetty]

at least with reyes-reaper some of the lines are already redone but itd be just as annoying to redo all the lines for that i suppose

[tranquil orbit]

so it's defo possible i think

[past copper]

They’re not gonna change Bastion to start speaking. Too much work. Especially with the voicelines. They would have to record EVERY voiceline Bastion has! Including the hero interactions

[hushed jetty]

not to mention theyd have to record Every future voice line multiple times

[tranquil orbit]

i guess

maybe for a mythic it's too much

if they did do that it'd sell though for sure

[hushed jetty]

maybe for like his ult for april fools or something

but thats abt it

[past copper]

It wouldn’t just be a mythic. Players still don’t like Zenyatta’s stretching emote. Doubt they’d be any more comfortable with Bastion having voice changed with speech

[hushed jetty]

people disliked it in an ironic way though

[tranquil orbit]

u say this but didnt they have zen walking in the pve cinematics

in the flashback

[past copper]

PvE n stories are different

[tranquil orbit]

idk i defo think they're ok w having zen on his feet now and then

[drifting viper]

Why dont they like it

Its funny

[peak escarp]

Zenyatta walks

he doesn't float everywhere

[drifting viper]

why

[peak escarp]

no

[drifting viper]

in the last scene zen was floating

[tranquil orbit]

nah zen is his teacher

[peak escarp]

he floats when meditating

[hushed jetty]

we still dont know how that works

[drifting viper]

The iris

[tranquil orbit]

all we know is that he can walk if he wants to and the floating isnt effortless

[drifting viper]

he got bored of it

[hushed jetty]

cause the real life guy named mccree was an ass

[real zealot]

Are you sure i heard he was trans

[hushed jetty]

no

[past copper]

I mean, it’s said monks can actually float upon achieving true enlightenment and Zenyatta appears to be one of the few Shambali to have achieved this

[tranquil orbit]

nah he was part of that sexual harrassment case at blizzard

he wasnt on team 4 if i remember right

[real zealot]

what?

[hushed jetty]

the mccree guy

[real zealot]

is mcree a real guy??

[tranquil orbit]

but they named the character after a guy called jessie mccree

yep

[hushed jetty]

cass was named after him

[peak escarp]

he was on the Hearthstone team iirc

[drifting viper]

i want to see zen fight widow and sombra, hopefully genji doesnt immediately intervene

[hushed jetty]

||you're out of luck i fear||

[peak escarp]

this is why you shouldn't name characters after real people

[hushed jetty]

but there is a mission there

[past copper]

Clearly he intervened. Zenyatta doesn’t fight

[real zealot]

is someone named mcree in real life or is he an actual person

[hushed jetty]

theres a dude named jesse mccree irl

[drifting viper]

He said hes not a pacifist in his voicelines to 76

[hushed jetty]

and he ended up being a complete freak

[tranquil orbit]

plsu im pretty sure theres a preview clip of genji deflecting in suravasa

[signal estuary]

do any of you play supports?

[past copper]

Voicelines aren’t canon. Only probabilities

[tranquil orbit]

he probably intervenes

[hushed jetty]

that doesnt mean he's a pacifist

just bc the voiceline isnt canon

[tranquil orbit]

no he defo isnt

[hushed jetty]

like the voicelines arent giving false info

[peak escarp]

none of the heroes are pacifists

[drifting viper]

Soldier 76 and zen dont talk in lore but i think what we learn from the voicelines are canon

[tranquil orbit]

and im pretty sure most of the voicelines are canon unless theyre from like a skin specific thing

[hushed jetty]

not necessarily

theyre not Lying but theyre hypothetical

[drifting viper]

No winston abandoned him

[hushed jetty]

IF the characters were talking in the same room this is what theyd say

[real zealot]

bad monke

[peak escarp]

the voice lines are "what if"s

[drifting viper]

to escape the moon

[tranquil orbit]

thats like half canon i guess

because it has approval from the writers

[real zealot]

how are they on the moon?

[tranquil orbit]

but doesnt necessarily happen in the story

[drifting viper]

the other monkeys were bad

[peak escarp]

because the other apes killed the scientists and took over

[past copper]

Apes rose up and killed the scientists on the base

[tranquil orbit]

so u can still tell things abt them from the voicelines

[signal estuary]

i don't know any lore is it bad that I'm here?

[drifting viper]

Watch all the cinematics

[past copper]

Interestingly, wonder if Space Ranger will have something on Horizon. We haven’t gotten anything regarding it for a long time

[real zealot]

maby thats what will happen if elon dont stop march

[signal estuary]

i have to unlock them

[drifting viper]

on youtube

[peak escarp]

if you're here to learn, that's good

[drifting viper]

search overwatch cinematics

[past copper]

And I’ll bet anyone traveling from the Mars Colony would have to make a stop on Horizon before they arrive on Earth

[hushed jetty]

just dont ask who the strongest character is or youll get jumped. by us

[real zealot]

are the lootboxes of overwatch 1 a part of the lore?

[hushed jetty]

no what

[drifting viper]

I wouldnt be suprised if they were

[signal estuary]

im just in here to have fun

[past copper]

Loot boxes are obviously nothing

[drifting viper]

What if some corrupt gaming company made a game using the overwatch branding with lootboxes you could buy to unlock cosmetics

[signal estuary]

i just started to play overwatch 4 weeks ago

[real zealot]

im a little bit of a overwatch veteran

[drifting viper]

there was an overwatch cartoon

Why not a video game

[tranquil orbit]

lmao echo was in a loot box lowkey

[signal estuary]

i just stated

[past copper]

Because of a number of reasons. Like having to know everything about the heroes in the game

[signal estuary]

give me some time to get there

[hushed jetty]

i wouldnt be shocked if yhere was one

[drifting viper]

We dont know everything about the heroes and we have an ow video game

[hushed jetty]

certainly wouldnt be very accurate in universe

[drifting viper]

they just need the abilities

And rough ideas of their personalities

[past copper]

The cartoon was probably based on little more than what the public saw the agents do in the field

[hushed jetty]

itd br a little odd though, even considering there was a cartoon

[tranquil orbit]

yh and apparently it was v inaccurate

[drifting viper]

The video game could be the same

[tranquil orbit]

according to sojourn

[past copper]

An inaccurate cartoon

So an inaccurate game wouldn’t be much better

[drifting viper]

i bet disney bought the rights to the overwatch franchise

[real zealot]

hhaa

[tranquil orbit]

idt theyd touch it tho

pr disaster

[hushed jetty]

thatd be insane

overwatch isnt really a. franchise

in universe

[past copper]

Disney doesn’t exist in OW. Blizzard World is the entertainment franchise

[tranquil orbit]

they still have naming rights and stuff

[tranquil orbit]

this could be it acc

[hushed jetty]

thatd a good wuedtion actually who made the ovw cartoon

[past copper]

And Overwatch was a military group. The government owns the rights to them

[hushed jetty]

The Government

[real zealot]

isnt torbjörn a part of the gnomes from snow white

[signal estuary]

can we go back on topic?

[hushed jetty]

he's just short

dwarfism

[past copper]

More than likely, the carton was meant to inspire the younger generation much like how the actual organization inspired the older generation

[tranquil orbit]

it mightve also been a third party thing

because the only person i think we know to watch it is efi

who's super young

and for her whole life im pretty sure ow has been disbanded and v illegal

so either it's v old or it was made unofficially

[hushed jetty]

the cartoon was airing during ovw's lifespan too

[tranquil orbit]

ah maybe it's just old then

[drifting viper]

back when overwatch was good in the public perception

[hushed jetty]

ovw only shut down 8 years ago i believe so it might not be That old

[past copper]

I mean, I can’t imagine it was anything beyond similarity to G.I. Joe

[tranquil orbit]

i didnt acc think abt it like that

but true

[drifting viper]

Id go watch the cinematics on YouTube

theyre surface level lore

If you know nothing about overwatch

[native gulch]

Whatever the thing from Sombra’s backstory is

[past copper]

Technically speaking, OW return to fight Null Sector will certainly inspire the world again. And perhaps, the public will see why they needed Overwatch and speak out against the UN if they target them

[real zealot]

why is sombra cyberhacker

[merry mason]

space aliens

[drifting viper]

i dont think people would start like overwatch again

[tranquil orbit]

yh agreed

[past copper]

Bc knowledge is power

[real zealot]

but still she uses smg like gangster

[signal estuary]

i'll watch them soon don't worry

[past copper]

Bc if you have knowledge, you can bend people to your will and get your way

[hushed jetty]

i cant wait until our next 3d cinematic ugh

[real zealot]

oh

[merry mason]

1. she was also a gangster 2. you need something to shoot with in this first person shooter

[tranquil orbit]

maybe surprise venture cinematic?

[past copper]

And what Sombra wants more than anything to know who really controls the world

[drifting viper]

Dvas cinematic is the worst one imo

[real zealot]

fists are badass

[hushed jetty]

id EXPLODE

[drifting viper]

Genji and hanzo have the best

[merry mason]

how long has it been since the last one

[tranquil orbit]

nah defo sojo

pains me to say that

[drifting viper]

they should really give doom a cinematic

[real zealot]

when is soilder born?

[merry mason]

she has one already

[tranquil orbit]

sojourns one in season 6

[drifting viper]

2020s i think

[tranquil orbit]

as in sojo has the worst one

[past copper]

!!shitpostinh

[drifting viper]

soldier is a toddler right now

[hushed jetty]

few months

[merry mason]

oh ok

[tranquil orbit]

it's mostly exposition for the pve

[hushed jetty]

the sojourn one

[real zealot]

what year is overwath set in

[drifting viper]

2070 something

[past copper]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[hushed jetty]

we don't know but like. 2070s prob

that's what everyone assumes anyway

[merry mason]

shut up already

[drifting viper]

[past copper]

Alright. See you never troll

[drifting viper]

[past copper]

!!mod

[hushed jetty]

ew

[merry token]

We technically have a bit of a clearer timeline cause of junkrat’s birthday

[real zealot]

when junkrat born

[drifting viper]

[hushed jetty]

it narrows down the potential exact years i suppose

he was born during a leap year

[merry token]

On a leapyear

[past copper]

Alright, get a mod in here to ban this guy

[merry token]

Dm @sullen pagoda

[drifting viper]

why dont the Australian government get the army to take back the desert

[past copper]

You the one trolling little fella

[hushed jetty]

take it back from what

[tranquil orbit]

i think it's toxic and probably too expensive

[hushed jetty]

the junkers?

[drifting viper]

Yes

[hushed jetty]

radiation

again ew

[past copper]

Yo. How we get a mod in here to get this troll out?

[tranquil orbit]

ignore them

[hushed jetty]

ok anyway

i find it interesting how we never see the rest of australia actually

[past copper]

Easy to ignore when a mod mutes n ban them

[hushed jetty]

weve seen glimpses of sydney

[tranquil orbit]

i rly wanna see an aboriginal australian junker

cos they like adding them so why not do something different

[hushed jetty]

maybe one day we get an australian map that isnt junker related

thatd be nice

[native gulch]

Yasssss give me the Canadian enby cinematic…

[tranquil orbit]

i think it'd be a nice surprise

they do like 1 or 2 3d cinematics a year

so one of the newer heroes should have one

in theory

[hushed jetty]

gavin said good things abt venture so im hoping theyll be one of our more interesting characters

[merry mason]

im sure he could say good things about any character

[tranquil orbit]

i wanna know what theyre digging up

[hushed jetty]

😭

true but still

personally im hoping for venture free weekend at the same time as the collab drop

[native gulch]

I hope they’re digging up an old god (or at least another superAI like Anubis)

[tranquil orbit]

i rate this so highl

[hushed jetty]

how does one dig up an old god

[tranquil orbit]

highly

like a super computer god that we dont know abt

maybe it's connected to that eye thing sombra and soldier are after

[hushed jetty]

why would it be buried

all the god ais have been either shut down or contained

[tranquil orbit]

maybe someone was experimenting and didnt want it found

[hushed jetty]

its not like they were secret

[native gulch]

Heck if I know. Some Hunters in Yharnam pulled it off, I’m sure a professional archaeologist with futuristic equipment could pull it off. to clarify, this is a bit

[tranquil orbit]

true but we also dont know abt if there were like

proto-god ais

or some kinds of models used to create them

prototypes

[native gulch]

We don’t need more god ai

[tranquil orbit]

i mean we only have 1

soooo

[native gulch]

I do hope it’s interesting though

[hushed jetty]

there was more than 1

[native gulch]

Very

[hushed jetty]

there were at Least 4

[tranquil orbit]

yh but only 1 confirmed

[hushed jetty]

definitely more

no

in declassified they talked about some of the others

[tranquil orbit]

i swear only anubis has been named?

ah

[hushed jetty]

xibalbá in mexico, chernobog ... somewhere, and macaria in new york

[tranquil orbit]

what are the names i had no idea

[hushed jetty]

those are just the important ones

but there are more that arent named or mentioned in the book

[tranquil orbit]

still think it's possible that theres one buried in the canadian north or something

[hushed jetty]

chernobog fucks me up bc when they were shutting down all the god ais, it predicted that this was going to happen and printed hundreds of papers telling the humans how to do its job once it was gone

and the final lines at the bottom were "i understand. i'm sorry." like WHATTTT IM SOBBING

[past copper]

I mean, they only looked to the 4 important ones. Each had control over something around the world

[native gulch]

This is hilarious

[native gulch]

This is sad

[hushed jetty]

fr like im depressed

#reactivatechernobog

[past copper]

Macaria was also an unspoken hero for their actions in New York

[hushed jetty]

there was a play about it

[past copper]

If not for her, Anubis would have surely crushed New York at the beginning of the Crisis

[hushed jetty]

i wonder what exactly made anubis lose its mind anyway

i believe in universe they dont know for sure

[past copper]

Anubis was doing it’s job. Protecting the environment. It saw humans as the greatest threat to it

[tranquil orbit]

yh i back this

[hushed jetty]

certainly but how did it reach that conclusion

[tranquil orbit]

cos we suck

[hushed jetty]

the god ais were supposedly programmed to not harm humanity

[tranquil orbit]

yh but i guess often times humanity is humanity's biggest threat

[past copper]

Humans continued to consume, making Anubis make harder n harder decisions for them and the environment

[hushed jetty]

i suppose eventually it determined that it couldnt both keep humans alive and protect the environment, although thats an insane conclusion to reach

[past copper]

You keep bending n bending a pencil. Eventually, it’ll break

[native gulch]

Especially given the (assumed) state of the world by how it is in present day

[tranquil orbit]

tbf if u see how we're treating it rn

maybe it's not that crazy

[native gulch]

It seems like we got our shit together in the 2030s or something

[tranquil orbit]

true but as an ai designed to look at risks objectively

[hushed jetty]

i also find it interesting how a lot of omnics didnt side against anubis after the awakening

[tranquil orbit]

it probably understands how bad human nature is

[past copper]

Between protecting the environment n looking after humans, who were the cause of many problems and continuing to pile on with overpopulation, Anubis came to only one conclusion. Protect one, destroy the other

In about 3-4 years time, Anubis single-handedly wiped out at least 12% of humanity

[hushed jetty]

2 years

well

how long after the awakening did stuff keep happening

[past copper]

It was more than 2. If you count the pockets that continued and still continue to fight

[tranquil orbit]

"After the Omnic Crisis, a number of regional god programs continued to operate, albeit with more controls and monitoring systems in place than previous. The major god programs however, were deactivated and subsequently guarded by Overwatch after the Omnic Crisis ended" - defo think it's likely that venture might be searching for something

[hushed jetty]

ah yeah are there Still anubis loyal omnics?

[native gulch]

Didn’t a significant portion of them screw off to the Himalayas?

[past copper]

Technically, that number is growing beyond 12% in Russia

[hushed jetty]

thats the shambali i think

i wouldnt say they supported anubis

[native gulch]

Well neither would I

But they remained effectively neutral

Which is notably not siding against him

[hushed jetty]

we know at least ram doesnt like anubis

i imagine thats not an uncommon opinion

[past copper]

That said. If everything with Null Sector concludes, will Overwatch be allowed to act in Russia and South Korea?

[tranquil orbit]

i think ram just wants to subjugate humans not necessarily kill them all

he's immoral but mainly because humans oppress others

but not heartless

[hushed jetty]

he wants to make an omnic nation

[native gulch]

Wait there’s still things going on in South Korea?

[hushed jetty]

the gwishin

[past copper]

I’m telling you, Ram will be forced into genocide of humanity. His actions in the global invasion isn’t gonna go ignored and his people allowed to live

[tranquil orbit]

nah in general ppl know the difference

theres omnic human families and relationships

[native gulch]

Please. People understand it’s just Ram and his mooks who are doing this

[past copper]

He’s single-handedly set back years of work to make humans n omnics equals

[hushed jetty]

well did he

[tranquil orbit]

i mean he wants to forcibly subjugate a lot of the omnics w them headgear things

[hushed jetty]

i think people understand that most omnics dont like him

plus idk if he necessarily thinks humans are inferior

he just doesnt particularly like them

[tranquil orbit]

he just thinks theyll always opress the omnics

[past copper]

Nobody even knows who he is or why he’s doing this

Ram is basically echoing exactly what Anubis did

[hushed jetty]

yeah and its crazy

bc he doesnt Like anubis

like bro PLEASE be self aware

[tranquil orbit]

nah cos he isnt motivated by killing humanity, he's motivated by saving ppl close to him

subtle difference

same results

[native gulch]

Oh yeah speaking of Ram, what’s the deal with Nemesis form? Is that just a transformation he does because robot?

[native gulch]

Ironic

[peak escarp]

Ramattra thinks he can do better than Anubis

[tranquil orbit]

but i dont even think he likes what he's doing

[hushed jetty]

we don't even know if it's Canon

[tranquil orbit]

just sees it as necessary

[peak escarp]

that he won't make the same mistakes

[hushed jetty]

(he already is making the same mistakes)
what does "subjugating" even do

[peak escarp]

unknown

[past copper]

Ram thinks he’s doing what’s right to preserve his people. Omnics are finite and can’t multiply the same way as humans. And worse, humans mistreat and abuse them for their differences and sometimes their actions in the war, that weren’t even their own

[hushed jetty]

he's probably not going to hypnotize them into fivhting for him bc thatd be putting them in harms way

so like

whats the deal

(with airline food)

[tranquil orbit]

something like that

i think he sees it as a 'doing it for their own good'

sort of thing

[past copper]

I’m telling you, Ram’s actions will have nothing but negative impacts. On human and omnic alike

[native gulch]

Obviously.

[tranquil orbit]

thats for sure i dont disagree

it's just i dont think the 100% of the whole world will suddenly hate on omnics becos of him

because like i said theres omnic human relationships

[past copper]

It hadn’t been that long that humans were on the verge of extinction at the hands of an invisible enemy. Now they’re suffering the consequences of their actions all over again

[tranquil orbit]

i think itd be cool acc to have a human character who was adopted by an onnic family thatd be rly cool

like what kinds of motivations would they have and what would they think abt the world

[hushed jetty]

i just know the adoption industry is boomin with omnic parents

[native gulch]

It’s almost like starting a war is a bad thing cough cough do you hear that Doomfist? cough cough

[tranquil orbit]

trueee

in theory timeline wise cos i rly dont know my stuff there

when were omnics allowed to live openly as citizens w equal rights

in say the US cos i know different countries have different laws

[native gulch]

Good, even in 2070ish I bet it still needs a massive overhaul and some kids getting relief from that mess is great

[past copper]

Then again. You can’t blame Ramattra for his actions. Humans abused his kind even before the war and many still haven’t learned from their actions after the war. His model even got the worst out of any

Being hunted down and killed like animals to near extinction

[tranquil orbit]

yh he's defo got good reasons to feel the way he does

in countries like russia and australia theyre still v hostile to them

so he's got no reason to see why others have rly changed

on a basic level - omnics are mutants and ram is magneto

[past copper]

Hell. In essence, it’s more accurate to say the R-7000s were murdered by the hands of fearful and ignorant humans

[native gulch]

They need to take care of the Junkers

Like really

[hushed jetty]

are all of the remaining ravagers dead?

also are the omnics in australia actually "feral" or do they just say that

[tranquil orbit]

they defo just say that

[hushed jetty]

frankly, feral omnic character When

[past copper]

Hard to say. But it’s easy to assume that the Ravagers went through a genocidal attack just after the war

[native gulch]

Also why are Omnics still fighting in Russia?

[hushed jetty]

just like the bastions

[past copper]

Russia has a complicated situation. Technically, the factories didn’t just stop after Anubis was quarantined

[tranquil orbit]

yo i just had a cooked thought because of this

mirror dimension - bob is the master and ashe is the servant

theyd never do that because of the character models

but still

[hushed jetty]

insane

[native gulch]

Bob needs to be a tank with Ashe for an ultimate

[tranquil orbit]

ASHEEE DO SOMETHING

even sounds alright

[past copper]

Crazier thing is that Russia can’t touch their factory without losing soldiers and civilians in the hundreds. The machines having learned their tactics

Old robots, but still never the less dangerous

[hushed jetty]

i guess theyre just still producing non sentient robots that are following anubis' directives

[past copper]

The Awakening only affected already built n operational robots

With the exception of Anubis’s war bots

Which begs the question, how did Bastion become sentient if warbots were immune to Aurora’s Awakening? Curious

[tranquil orbit]

bird

[hushed jetty]

its VERY interesting actually bc like

after the awakening anubis studied sentient omnics to find out what happened

[tranquil orbit]

he loves ganymede that much

[hushed jetty]

and removed the "part necessary for sentience" in its future models

so what the hell is in bastion

[past copper]

Unless, what if Bastion had the same one in a million chance as Aurora did?

[hushed jetty]

big if true

[tranquil orbit]

maybe but i doubt theyre gonna explore that more

[past copper]

Technically speaking, Bastion was by all means dead, but was reborn when reactivated years later

[tranquil orbit]

i think most of what we're gonna see w bastion is how his story w rein and the others develop

[native gulch]

Well when you’ve got millions of bots and plenty of time…

[tranquil orbit]

true

statistically it's not crazy

[native gulch]

Statistical anomalies are bound to happen

[hushed jetty]

one hell of an anomaly though considering they dont know what happened with aurora

[native gulch]

But also this

[tranquil orbit]

plot convenience

[hushed jetty]

they wouldnt leave it as simple as that surely

[tranquil orbit]

bastion preceedes a lot of the god program writing i think

[native gulch]

Which does through a wrench into the statistical anomaly proposition

[tranquil orbit]

so i dont even know if they were thinking it through like that

[hushed jetty]

well they still gotta find a way to explain it

[past copper]

What happened with Aurora was in a controlled environment. What happened with Bastion was in an uncontrolled natural environment

[tranquil orbit]

anomaly works for them i think

defo better than kiris age

[hushed jetty]

days in #lore-discussion without kiriko's age being mentioned: 0

[tranquil orbit]

lmaooo sorry

but it's a good example for them being ok w stretching things

[native gulch]

Does Kiriko know Genji? I know they have voice lines but apparently that’s not canon..

[past copper]

Does her age even matter anymore? Literally said that people have longer lifespans in Overwatch thanks to medical science

[tranquil orbit]

nah they know each other

[hushed jetty]

she knows hanzo so id be shocked if they didnt

[golden oak]

Wasn’t Anubis pretty much defeated and jailed after the awakening? Im pretty sure it was ram who removed that part in his null sector bots

[tranquil orbit]

in the new short story she even mentions the fact that she knows that he's w overwatch

[hushed jetty]

not immediately after

[native gulch]

How? She’s 21 and Genji’s been away how long?

[past copper]

Kiriko trained with Genji n Hanzo since childhood

[hushed jetty]

anubis was still at large for a bit

[golden oak]

Of course

[tranquil orbit]

she's way closer w him than hanzo

[tranquil orbit]

yh ik it's messed

[golden oak]

No cuz he lost majority of his soldiers

[native gulch]

Ok but Hanzo never left, and didn’t her mother train those two? I wouldn’t be surprised if Hanzo stopped by from time to time

[hushed jetty]

the awakening "effectively" stopped the war but there was a period of time after when anubis wasnt stopped yet

anubis continued building robots and even had some sentient omnics on its side

its mentioned in declassified

[tranquil orbit]

theyre still in touch as per the most recent lore we have

kiri knows genji is w overwatch and even asks hanzo if theyll come

[native gulch]

Didn’t most people know Genji was with Overwatch soon after the incident in Rialto?

[tranquil orbit]

nah as in rejoined

post-paris

[hushed jetty]

apparently hanzo didnt

[native gulch]

Ah

[native gulch]

How lol

[hushed jetty]

bro doesnt watch the news i suppose

[tranquil orbit]

benefit of the doubt he's depressed

[golden oak]

After shimada clan was takes down, Hanzo was hunted by assassins a lot, he even mentions in game that he visited esperanca and was also hunted there which is insane
When ur being hunted world wide I guess you have better concerns than what overwatch is doing

[native gulch]

True enough… oh wait right he did run around the world. So I guess him knowing Kiriko makes a lot less sense then I thought it did. Great, now that entire plotline goes out of wack

[golden oak]

Also did they really like publicly announce who was members of blackwatch

[native gulch]

I mean Genji was on Overwatch Overwatch soon after Rialto

Not just Blackwatch

[tranquil orbit]

i think only reyes was made public i might be wrong abt that

[hushed jetty]

there were at least Pictures apparently right

[native gulch]

Which I guess was disbanded but like eh

[golden oak]

I think he only came back to Hanamura when it was genji’s death anniversary

[golden oak]

Genji is wearing a mask tho

[hushed jetty]

true

hard to tell thats your dead brother when he's unrecognizable

[tranquil orbit]

yeah he didnt even think he was alive at the time i swear

so he wouldnt have been eyeing up random cyborg ninjas to check

not that theres a lot of them out there but still

[golden oak]

Tbh blackwatch skin was revealing a lot of skin but genji was insecure about his body at the time
So although blackwatch outfit being canon, I wouldn’t say genji would be pleased to wear that at the time

[hushed jetty]

and yet he was naked in overwatch 1 /j

[native gulch]

Ok am I making a poor assumption here or did Genji not spend a certain amount of time publicly on Overwatch like Cassidy did

[tranquil orbit]

he was in a strike team w tracer winston mercy post-black watch

[golden oak]

Yeah it was post blackwatch

[tranquil orbit]

and is pretty close w mercy and tracer

[golden oak]

But I still don’t think they shared agents names publicly

[tranquil orbit]

yh thats the key part

[golden oak]

Only like commanders maybe

[tranquil orbit]

i think genji was anonymous

[hushed jetty]

welllllll

depends on your view

[native gulch]

Controversial to say the least

[tranquil orbit]

for most of the public

[hushed jetty]

they were doing the illegal shit that overwatch couldnt do publically

[golden oak]

Good intentions bad execution

[native gulch]

Ultimately good but being a black ops thing they naturally did some fucked up stuff

[hushed jetty]

i feel like they killed more than That One Guy

[tranquil orbit]

i mean they were kinda breaking international law

[hushed jetty]

lol

[tranquil orbit]

so pretty bad

[native gulch]

He was justified tbh but the obvious solution was having Genji or Moira do it so as to not attract attention

[tranquil orbit]

werent they just gonna take him in?

there was any reason to kill him reyes just got wound up

[golden oak]

Blackwatch took down shimadas also

[tranquil orbit]

that was the start of his emo phase

[native gulch]

Ah yes

His decades long emo phase

[hushed jetty]

reyes realized that if they took him in that his buddies would get him out no matter what

[tranquil orbit]

he got out the family heirloom my chemical romance CDs after blackwatch got disbanded - headcanon

[tranquil orbit]

true but he also shut down his entire organisation to prevent him doing anything else covert

so it was stupid regardless

and they all know it

he made an emotional, selfish decision that basically shot everyone in the leg

[native gulch]

Would make sense for him in particular but a lot of the characters who don’t go by their names go by callsigns. Reinhardt is uses his name, Cass iirc goes by that name publicly, Torbjorn does (though that might be marketing).

[tranquil orbit]

yh it's not the same for everyone

and even some who use callsigns like tracer

ppl know she's lena oxton

genji i think because of who he is they keep secret

big criminal family ties and whatnot

[golden oak]

I’ve heard somewhere that assassinating him was the initial plan but Reyes changed it to turning him in
But Reyes changed his mind again and killed him and cass was actually just mad at him not sticking to the plan rather than him killing someone

[native gulch]

I mean how could they not she has that chronal accelerator on her chest which is pretty iconic

[tranquil orbit]

lmao true

she's also kinda more community driven than the others

like ppl in london just know her like that i think

[zenith mango]

Is there any way to read the new short stories for free

I’m broke

[golden oak]

That wasn’t a blackwatch mission, it was after public found about blackwatch and a fight broke out between him and Jack leading to overwatch HQ in Switzerland exploding

[tranquil orbit]

nah that voiceline w reyes and ana where he's like: 'you always liked him better'

so jealous

[golden oak]

People might post scans online but we don’t know when 🤷‍♂️

[tranquil orbit]

i wanted to get it on ebook

but they literally only sell hard copies for like $30 or whatever it is

[hushed jetty]

25-30 ish yea

[tranquil orbit]

which is weird cos all the other stuff is on ebook

like pls i wanna get this stuff legally but i just cant afford to get more massive books

plus reading on the train

[golden oak]

Wild price for a book

[hushed jetty]

thats like normal book price
for a hardcover anyway

[tranquil orbit]

yh books are expensive

[hushed jetty]

one of this Size anyway

[golden oak]

I mean how big is it

[tranquil orbit]

which is why they should release ebooks so more ppl might acc try read them

[tranquil orbit]

100 pages it's not v big

has some illustrations allgedly though

but still it's expensive no 2 ways abt it

[golden oak]

Whole or one story

[tranquil orbit]

whole i think

[golden oak]

Bruh

[tranquil orbit]

thats what it says on amazon at least

[golden oak]

No reason to be this price

[hushed jetty]

100 bigass pages though

assuming its the same physical size of declassified

[spare fox]

Heroes Ascendant? It's 280 pages long

[hushed jetty]

oh!

[tranquil orbit]

wait what

amazon lied to meeee

[golden oak]

That’s still not that big

[spare fox]

it's a big book

[tranquil orbit]

ok that makes it easier to digest the price then

but still im only gonna get it if they do ebook

[hushed jetty]

280 pages isnt super long but the pages are huge

[golden oak]

I’ve read much larger books for much cheaper

[tranquil orbit]

280 w illustrations and hard copy is fairly standard

the only thing thats weird is that u can only get it hard copy

tbf w the lack of marketing for this book i think theyre expecting a loss

[hushed jetty]

crazy how itd be less of a loss if they marketed it harder

[golden oak]

It was announced like a year ago

[tranquil orbit]

yh but no one except for lore heads even know it exists

and theres major lore drops in this thing

like that sombra soldier story

[tranquil orbit]

hey at least they acc released it ... they couldve done a WB and scrapped a finished product for a tax write off

[hushed jetty]

(release coyote vs acme btw)

[tranquil orbit]

facts

[golden oak]

Hope it’s not a limited thing like the cookbook

[tranquil orbit]

chances are theyll need to animate some of this stuff later down the line

like the sombra stuff and maybe the end of the kiri hanzo one

becos if they wanna push the story for the wider audience they need those

and they cant just be like ... hey read this book none of u bought or even know existed

so i think unfortunately theyll reuse some of these stories and the book will be forgotten

v sad

[golden oak]

If there was ebook there would be a lot more sales because people from different countries would be more willing to buy it bc no shipping

[vocal parcel]

I want the book but also don’t wanna give bliz my money

[tranquil orbit]

facts

[golden oak]

🏴‍☠️

[tranquil orbit]

idk why they arent doing that

cos it's so inexpensive

[vocal parcel]

I can’t find it anywhere 😭

[golden oak]

They kinda dumb

[tranquil orbit]

honestly i think it's jsut that the higher ups dont care

[golden oak]

Probably because it premiered not long ago

[tranquil orbit]

the fact we still havent got a new head narrative designer is worrying

[golden oak]

Why? Don’t they want money?

[tranquil orbit]

they probably underestimate how much ppl care abt overwatch lore

which is sad because i got into the game BECAUSE of the cinematics

not the other way around

[golden oak]

Ok but releasing an ebook is literally less effort than an actual book

[tranquil orbit]

yh it is i agree

i just dont think they care at all to even make decisions abt the book

[golden oak]

It literally doesn’t make any sense

[tranquil orbit]

like i dont even think it comes up in board meetings

[tranquil orbit]

like this tells u all u need to know imo

[tranquil orbit]

like even if theres free money to be had i just dont think the new management care

[golden oak]

Previous one got fired?

[tranquil orbit]

laid off yh

gavin

[spare fox]

I'm pretty sure ebook releases are handled by the publisher

[tranquil orbit]

and that position hasnt been replaced

[tranquil orbit]

is there a chance we get one later down the line?

[spare fox]

Idk

maybe bug them on twitter? a lot of people are asking for it

it's not like it's an image-heavy book, not sure if that's even a factor

[tranquil orbit]

maybe itll get their attention