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cuz it's like sync 64x to clear 46 HM?
maybe 62x?
Idk 
also in another year we get like 8 more chapter
I don't think we catching up for a long time
i thought we were kinda catching up but i guess not
at rate of 2 chapter every 3 month
@hidden mortar I'll hit him in like 5 minutes so maybe he'll be away and won't engage in stupidity
nah if you are f2p and not day 1 it's hard to be blue CP in HM
yea thats cool
i dont mean blue cp, i mean within range to mald to the finish line
Need sugg
641+ probably
WTB a freaking way to beat 1 of these teams
the day that happens there really will be nothing to do except SR
He's already at -600 and achieved nothing 
and UR and pvp 
yeah, hopefully
10 man round robin groups 
and only 1 makes it out into top 64
clearly good design 

battle royale 
they should just make the entire format swiss
whoever got highest w/l ratio at end of 7 days gets rank 1
lets make CA skill based, live team-forming league of legends champ select style

form your team live
they should just move the CN whales into their own server. let them cannibalism themselves
(game dies because no-shows)
single elim is too high variance
well I guess maybe variance is needed a bit to not have same winner every time 
or double SR/UR frequency with half rewards
@hidden mortar He got hit 
I was happy with my free 3k few weeks. then these fkers came in being 900 n sht
oh speaking of frames, im probably cooked for next one so i hope it sucks 
double tap done
ill be on the plane and across the world for the rest of the SR
it's just Ultra museum frame but red

barely any change tbh
I guess it look alright with red char
i think it looks pretty nice
He's doing the yoyo
I need better pink frame
Oh right I forgot animated png doesn't work 
give it up noah doesnt like you
Him waiting for you to get 541 is so nice of him
nah Noah is ass, Nero is the tech 
I'd change my defense to something harder to fight but I'm paranoid about people copying it again
i suffered too long for noah to accept that slander
@haughty mortar i have a proposition
I'm making slight changes to mine to throw him off and it's working well so far because he always waste a bunch of hits every day. He must be in rng hell
let's lock down C4 then duel for c3 c4 instead of bouncing C6 
sending mixed signals, so nice of him to wait before hitting the next synch level but then he gems like a maniac 
I can't wait for ScarHA so I can use Soda again, surely she will be fabulous 

should i, i've always wanted to
no idea if nero is rock heavy
I think she is worth it, she solves a lot of issues tbh
They need to use a VPN to access the game over there, right? He's always active at very specific hours outisde of the weekend, bet it's when he's home
just need OL, pray you get 2-3 line to CP pad is all

idt so, they have their own client dont they
He hit us back 
my main issue is my Biscuit CP tbh 
she is like 30k lower than my average
cuz her line suck peepee
did you bother getting CS on your batteries, i kinda figured that was my next step
nah no rock for that shit
why bother when it is not gonna change my rank
I am holding good enough with no cs
fair
Nah he's not playing the CN version of the game
ill see how this SR goes, see if i need to pump a bit more into water to get 3% on phone
then ill do nero after
just get lucky 
ur right
blue to SR15
ok im sending some kits into nero
oh wait shes bond 30 already, not 26
c1 nero stonks??
i quit
smh
Ah yes
The good old put your highest ATK unit to bait Helm nuke tactic
my batteries are all still sr5
Favourite would be the ticket rn for the PvErs
I am actually tempted to build Zwei
Dont really need cs% on batteries imo
advise
1 tap gold, you have enough gold to afford it tbh
@hidden mortar went from 3w/0l to this and 3w/0l the rng is crazy right now
1 tap gold on final 2000->3000?!
Should I build Nero? She is Core 5 for me. But no gear 
no, gold has the highest value when you are 0/3000
ill do last two purples
because you skip the entire level
yeah thats what im doing

My internet died 
Had to switch to data
ok thats 3 gold kits down the drain

Did he change teams?
seem you need to do some ritual
alright it's time to bring out the cat food
you can't fail this 
start preparing offering to the cat god
CN DDoS attack 
im bankrupt
where is your offering 
cat god not pleased 
i guess ill 1x gold 2x purple, another 1x gold then call it quits if that fails
past that it'll just be praying that no meta-units come out for a good 2 months
it's like 70% at 13>14, how you gonna fail 70% 
you just jinxed me
its doomed
it seem you are not true believer 
Aite beat him. I'll go to bed in about an hour anything after that he'll be free for a while
i finished but at what cost 
I mean it will be filled up by next week's SR
I don't even look at my kit stack anymore
I'm already past my bedtime, I won't survive another hour today 
Thats fine lol, he isnt worth losing sleep over
๐
i think ill wait for rail to be on tomorrow and then ill do rookie arena test hits
We can beat him back down tomorrow
2x 2 liner, 2x 1 liner

at what cost exactly?
well that is only 1 line less than mine actually
I got no 3 line either 
good enough
I just reread Prydwen PvP guide its so OUTDATED
60 gold, 100 purple, 320 blue
wtf ๐
who's that for?
nero 
๐ . you'll get top 8 ca now
Made me look at the current year to be sure 
i honestly havent built my CA team properly even once since @placid bloom bullied me for CA 1 and 2 CONSECUTIVELY
mfer ruined my best two chances to place top 32 or top 16
I haven't even participated in CA for like half a year I think 
what ca rank have you gotten then?
advanced ๐
i got shuffled into big boy level bracket soon after
okay what skill invests to bring nero online
10/10/7
I have got out of Advance twice, and immediately lost the first top 64 fight right after 
can 10/10/10 if you want to CP pad a bit more
christ i remember her being expensive but i shoulda asked that before i dumped dolls into her 
is your solo raid going to be ok with half your maintenance kits gone?
I never cared or invested for CA and I got 3 times top 16. Just be lucky
oh yay my internet is back. Used 0.01MB of data for nothing smh. Jank ISP
there is literally no new water unit to build atm
unless you are trying to build Bready or XGuillo

Privaty if you haven't
wait i built s.elegg on my OTHER account, i thought it was this one. guess im outta luck for water this time around
if you don't have PrivT after 3 months then Idk what to say 
egg is doomed
You might have not rolled ele on her yet and kept atk lines for neutral
what are my chances i win this? 
would have to be mighty lucky for that to happen without dipping into my few remaining purple/gold
no you will get a ton of blues from SR

ill run nero 777 for now and see how she fares
maint kit is not an issue
it's not gonna be an issue for at least 2 more month
then we get new favorite item
i wanted to reserve my gold skill manuals to bring privT s2 to 10 and... something else idk
did you not reset anyone during anni?
He got tricked to invest in Nero 
i was too busy and forgot 
your own fault 
me 5 days after it was gone: "wait, skill resets"
I think I reset Eve too
I don't reset the ones I'm still using in SR
im boned for 5v5
alright now i gotta read into nero kit and see how she works
the moment you do that it's fire parts SR, trust
hodl
Alice is my most powerful nikke 
ive gotta shuffle my teams around though because my existing moran&noah team had enough CS to beat siren stun
although i dont see much siren anymore
i gotta see if i can find another team for noah to still be sub 2rl
isn't your Vesti super fat 
actually my vest is super dog LOL
that should be enough to 4 shot wind
without absolute???
@hidden mortar Time to hit the stack for me
whatever happens will be resolved before reset anyway
gn
Oh wait, he just hit you again 
a-anis is part of my nero team too??
this guy man....
ok this is going to be a major reshuffle of m yteams
what other team you using her on, how you gonna fit Nayuta if you using Nero Noah Blanc 
He's not giving up yet 
nayuta worked fairly well for a throwaway team honestly
lib for 4 kills nayuta pseudo indom for finishing touch ๐
Blanc p3 
are you waiting to see if he hits you or calling it for the night?
off burst Anis
this the most wasteful use I seen
I'm waiting a bit to see if there's a next move. Maybe he's trying to get c2 but he's failing
yknow what, i didnt even think about that 
true 
believe me when i say i threw it together on lunch break at work
in fact im about to call it a night and just go sleep
almost 1am already
dont think i have the brain power to reform my teams to fit in nero
i dont even think i have a second healer that doesnt tank my cp anyways
exhibit A
looks like he hit you
I would pay to have his PoV and to know what he could be even thinking right now. I don't mind the other players but there's something about him that always be infuriating. He's just obnoxious. He hit me again btw, I'm going to take a quick shower, hit him back and go to bed 
sounds good, I'll smack him after you do. If nothing else we make him burn through all of his gems
special arena teams should i change anything?
Nayu Jack team
Not sure why someone would do that but I do
Ill need plenty of quantum if I dont wanna do Jack or Anis
what if i throw nayuta into the moran-nero team for heal dist
Should definitely use Biscuit in that team 1
@hidden mortar I'm sending it to you (if I don't get a rng disaster this time too)
How many gems has the guy you and grim are battling against used?
Too many, I lost count
๐ . Bro must be mega rich
3 wins again, I really don't get why my team 2 and 3 was a L earlier
is he shuffling teams?
Over 5K last season and hes up to around 1000 already for this season I think
Nope
You became silver 
@placid bloom maybe time to build noise to pair with my noah huh
for team 3, that way id actually have 3 solid teams
no resources now though
Oh! I leveled up 
If I had to guess your t2 lost earlier cuz noise got crit and you ended up with rumani burst instead so you couldnt tank nayuta
Should win even with Rumani burst, I already see it happening
Id help you guys jump him if i was global and in the bracket 
Would be nice if we had one more ally but we're the only 2 EN users in this bracket 
We're the outsiders but tbf all the other CN players are way more chill than him
copying @lusty gull teams
now i'm praying
Nayuta is only chill because I beat his ass down in our old bracket
He was a psycho too at one point
And now you have the Noise attacking you. It's interesting because now he have the choice of hitting you and then c2>c1 or go straight for c4>c1 (if he's still in melty burning gems mode)
You have it rough compared to me
I'm actually gonna chill in c5
He never tried once
I'll let him and scar fight overnight
Nayuta guy tested the waters and quickly gave up
Kinda weird cuz hes 580+ and has decent invest
He attacked the Noise. It's like a TV show at this point
He should be able to win, unless he just cant build teams
The 3 of us have traded spots for 3 years in our old bracket. It was an all out war
And scar's hit now
@tropic summit So I finally decided to build Vesti cause my SP Arena bracket has been miserable but I got say, im sorry vesti ive been holding out on you if this is how you greet me
. the gloves was 1 reroll and 1 reset attributes
Cinema. I'll hang out in c5
I engaged with him. I want to find a def that can hold him or at least make him waste hits. Too bad I can't really invest in pvp because of raids, how can he be so clueless and have scary teams at the same time is beyond me
Hes copying teams
Thats why I havent bothered building anything substancial. Him and nayuta are rats who just steal comps
I think he's just using his def teams in attack
Its entirely possible lol

This guy is going to hit 2K gems used and we're only 2 days into the season
I just switched SWHA and Lib positions, he probably just impaled himself on it
oh no no 2 more
You should keep switching your team positions around to mess witj him
Like keep doing it now while he's attacking
+1 it keep going at it with no time for reflexion
I actually tested my def teams against his and my indom sucks if he hit it with his Vesti+SWHA team. Ada gets too low and take indom but if I put my link in p1 to p3 they all die pre-full burst
I'm scamming his indom
3 more!
Mihara p1 to die and put DoT on then anis - blanc - biscuit - cindy
Anis and blsnc get invuln and get stunned by his privaty, bisc and cindy die, when anis and blsnc come out of stun anis gets indom SUPER late and guarantees a win
@minor egret @hidden mortar Rooting for you guys. Go beat his ass!
Oh well it was fun when it lasted but I'm curious to see if it's consistent for him
I'm probably gonna leave him for tonight I dont really wanna be up much longer
It's fine, he'll calm down eventually
I really hope nayuta/noise throw hits at him. They can win
He's kind of dumb because all he have to do is take c2
-1400 just today on me, I really don't get it
is there a rule when refreshing in SPA? I can't find rank 22 when im 28
SPA? You can only hit on the 3 above you
what are you talking about
since ur 28, you can only hit 27, 26 and 25
i see a large range
so what's the rule here, i keep freshing but unable to find 22
Oh right I forgot, only challenger is 1 player per spot. Diamond have 3 players
mf is a free hit come on
oh. wait. my bad. can only hit 3 tier above, not one rank
ohhh i can't hit same d3
I swear sometimes the refresh list get stuck on giving you the same opponents
fxk me.... how is rank 22 and 28 same grade?
both are diamond 3
ye. ur in d3 already so you can only hit d2, d1 and c10
this some bullsheet man
no it's logic because you wouldn't climb the ranks by hitting someone who have the same rank as you
yeah but at 22 i can hide in the shadows. 28 I'm gonna be hit by people from 36 doing both their 2 attempts
crazy, thanks anyways, i learnt something today
d1 to d3 is same 2k payout no?
top 11-30
honestly id just chill atp since next +300 gems is top10
you think noir better than anis?
both are good
the dps is anis star
The Blanc SWHA team from a mile away:
that team win versus blanc swha

Itsok I will mirror Blanc Biscu Anis Helm 
Intercontinental Ballistic Missile on Nero
Or Moran depending
Bros and sises
Is this a solid CA team?
Or is it meh?
What do you mean by the red number here?
1 is normal
The light is turned off when there is no obstruction in the event of an attack
Does 2 mean when you hit the opponent's Cinderella?
this can't stand against 2 RL comps
What kind of Moran team can stand up to 2RL comps as a stall team?
moran bay jackal 2 RL

I take that as a no
yeah
I guess my Moran team needs more tinkering
I was going to have SWHA with HelmT on another team
And Jackal with Scar
swha with helmt is a waste
What if i have HelmT with libby and noah biscuit?
Try Moran Noah Trina Helm Cindy instead
also a waste of helmt. helmt can build a team of her own
Cindy with Helm can funnily 1v1
Ah okay maybe I will do that then
centi phase 1
rapunzel at p4 might be better against most comps but not as good against sg
Wont this team just die to pressure SG + AnisStar
SWHA dies before firing 2nd shot
Blanc then dies
Rapu revives SWHA
SWHA dies again
Slower Rosa also kills it
Fast Rosa also kills it if it oneshots Rapu
Crit is never predictable
I tested this last CA, worked pretty well against most comps
CA is different from SpA cus cant set up attack
we're talking about CA

I have misunderstood the mission
Thank you so much, I will retool when I get a chance
Leaving work rn
also not many people uses SG in CA anymore so it's safer to put rapunzel in p4. Don't have her burst higher than 4 tho
Stay safe
don't text and drive 
Just drive and text
What if he doesnt drive
ok
then he should watch out for theft 
i have her p3 treasure but not ol
who this?
diesel
for pvp?
well we are talking in pvp channel. but originally i built her for mother whale
i didn't use her at all
ah ic I thought you use diesel for pvp for a moment 
for CN
well hmm that might work for lower CA lobbies
huh?
Should i invest bay or rosanna 
morning @lusty gull - could you check this? looks like trina getting some additional additional burst gen from somewhere when anis is added
we calculcated that trina should have around 29.5 gen but she's getting 30.5~ somehow, and nikke.top agrees with the 29.5
The calc for deck is burst gen * 1.06
Which is wrong and I alr reported but
He never fixed it
it's not 1.06 ?
it's funky how the burst gen works as it's based on burst gen and targets hit
you have it right for stuff like nayuta I think, and xmaiden
but wrong for trina
i did rl burst gen * 1.06
put anis and trina into a team on https://nikke.top/ and check the gen for trina at 2RL
Anis increases burst gen of every shot by +0.084.
per target hit though I think
makes RL a bit more annoying, as trina hits like 4 targets P1 P2 P1 cover P2 cover
I think xmaiden hits more than usual with hers?
hmm, so that would mean aniss buff only affects hits not skill
not easy to fix
if you look at aniss + noise, it's correct right ?
did you have that + x for every weapon on each rl ? so i can fix with that instead of doing * x
Which is better?
Should buff skill gen too, but what Anis does is every proc the gives gen (hit/skill) increases its gen by 6% of Anis' single hit burst gen. Same for other units that has bg burst filling speed. The % is from their Own base burst gen not the buff recipient base gen
Hence the +0.084% gen per hit(or more like gen gaining instance)
it's already how it works, i'm doing burst gen * x depending on the weapon
so that would mean buff not affects skill if something is wrong
I don't get why weapon matters? Prolly ammo not weapon tho ๐ค
No, but I think the oversimplification is that every hit (excluding burst gen recharge like Rosanna's and HelmTr's) is boosted by 0.084. This means per pellet, per rocket hit, etc.
Clip SG, for example, has 0.45 per pellet. It becomes 0.534.
ok i will try to fix with that 0.084 per hit when i can
An easier way to calculate is to calculate how many hits the team lands, exclude recharge skills, then multiply by * 0.084.
Which is... near Jackal hit thingy.
Lets say Nero has a base gen of
0.1%. every ammo hit of Nero gives now
[0.1% + 0.084 (from 6% of Anis 1.4%)], though that is excluding S2 procs assuming it doesn't happen, but it should increase her S2 gen procs too like how SW/Lib follow up skills increase by 0.084 per followup hit
Then lets go to Trina
From 3.6% every gen proc
It becomes [3.6% +0.084]
Hence in 2 RL it will be [3.6% + 0.084] x 2 Nikke x 2 cover x 2 RL = 29.472% in 2 RL time from 28.8%; if we add Anis 35.6% it should be now 65.07% and not 66.13%
Nayu Helm RH Drake Jack my fav team
Maybe I shud burst with Drake instead of RH if Helm dies
I guess Noise or any similar mag RL was correct coz she and Anis had the same Base gen of 1.4% 
Why is a game about giggle so complicated
Because Anis is cancer, my rokiee arena is like that, if water Element not linked with jackal even at burst 1 they'll die
It is what life steal means in this game. What the actual f? You heal proportional with dmg of each hit. Wtf HoT? 
There is exactly 1 wording for life steal in this game. Did you even read. 
Anis deals extra dmg to Water
Now that u said it I shud put Drake in P3 instead
I don't have Blanc. Super cancer.
Anis targets p1-3. Helm aint surviving that.
Then I should put Biscuit at P3... but if I did, she might not be able to make Anis invin.
Theres a lot of p1 pressure so anis sill get invul in p1
i havent really played pvp, but im going to start now. can someone help me make 3 teams?
Actually i put bisc at p 3 at rookie arena forced her to die as the damage triggered her skill at p1p2 defender.
Sorry biscuit it was intentional trap๐ซฅ
Either placed your best equiped or copy some team here. #pvp-arena message
@tropic summit just cooked. Time to see if I lose in 64 again

@tidal lichen found ya https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtODMxMDg5NjEwOTM2NDcxMzU0Mw==

you may want to hide your stats a bit more from public so your SPA rivals like zanta can't see when you used attacks
oh you can see those?
tf.
oh yes
So, Anis P1, Biscuit P3?
anis p2 so bisc procs later
Alright. Thanks.
silly lvl 100 one handed warrior 
T1 ok
T2 very meh, move that noah in p4 unless you want her murdered
T3 weak B2 choice here, if you can't combo moran with bay or noah the next choices are folk or anchorIM. SWHA needs time to get going so you need her behind a proper stall or indommed
T4 assuming scar and noise linked, put noise in p1 and scar in p2
T5 yeah this is throw away
wasn't it a rookie team? i help everyone unconditionally, unless they're 4ssholes 
love vestiTU and vestiTU will give you a lot of wins in return, one if not the best DPS in pvp atm
with absolute she's not only a DPS, but terminator
worst case scenario we keep each others company on the bench as usual 
Funny number
Also
69 >>>>>>>> 67
@tropic summit what team did you use against Ziz hard mode?
put noah soline and centi in synchro
here you go:
#pvp-arena message
Cool beans!
Moran instead of Anis?
SP arena
- nayuta anisTT helmT raven alice
- neonOS crown lib RH trina
- noah naga SWHA soline:FT midhara
if you can survive AoE wipe with anisTT you can slot her, else you gonna need moran
or you could just run re-enter ofc
anisTT moranT RRH helmT crown
Ooooh, right, I forgot that stupid move
Could try anis anchor I guess
Anis crown rapi helmt/mihara anchor
nukeroni at the end is brutal, make sure you got tempering and on moranT DR (B1) and crown shield (B2)
imagine needing tempering. Sasuga rail malding
Help me pls to build up 2 good teams for Special Arena
My synchro level is very low, so yesh, Tempering actually makes sense
the best part is that ppl 20 synchro earlier cleared anyway, but they kinda had C7 
It's currently my highest lvl cube ๐คฃ ๐คฃ ๐คฃ
And my synchro level is 532, I shouldn't be here xD
532

- anisTT blanc priv biscuit vestiTU
- neonOS naga liter anis tia
- ein alice raven mint jackal
What do you think @tropic summit @swift mango
Thx
Yeah. You can check clear info. You prob parked there for a while right 
what is this, CA?
tbf it depends a lot on the purpose of that team
Very likely, I'm currently at something like 40-9, booted Nikke recently, gonna push a bit further
if it's a rookie it's bad
if it's an SP arena it's passable
if it's CA it's dead
(I'm hella carried by Anis)
He's just sane
So the worst team?
from what i see:
- rookie bad
- SP arena could work, monkeys might get the bait
- CA: a lot of archetypes would murder both, put bay or noah with biscuit or anisTT with blanc
Can confirm this is a crazy comp, re-enter Anis with MoranT enables you to tank BS without HelmT and MAnchor
Somehow AnisTT healing is more than enough for the team in general
both are too exploitable tbh
and considered you using very important units for it
kind of a waste? 
i wouldn't separate bay from biscuit
or noah from biscuit
or anisTT from blanc/biscuit
the only exception the biscuitless noah lib 2RL
I used biscuit with blanc
because it's an all-in team
You k ow its CA
blanc doesn't need biscuit if you run her with jackal
or run her with a p1/p5 resistant unit
e.g.
- moran indom flex blanc flex
- indom flex flex blanc jackal
- jackal indom flex blanc link
I used a different team against snek
Kinda
No, it's slow cindy
ballsy running slow cindy nowdays 
i guess it's a choice you can make, take risks somewhere and stronger points elsewhere 
MoranT/SBS/HelmT/SWHA/Crown or something like that
Fahren separated noah and biscuit too in the previous ca
Not just him, kinda everyone since long ago
I was heavily under deficit so i needed all the DPS i can get so somehow ditching HelmT helps with that and surprisingly this comp works just fine
he gamblin', that's a choice but a risky one, can do
Gimme your team cook
I'll copy it
i think it goes based on everyone experience
my noah if without biscuit regularly gets matchmade against absolute or SG pressure or vestiTU in general
and i've grown tired of seeing her being destroyed

His research level is the highest so not really gambling 
Kinda, but been a while my noah team does not meet peaksolute or sgs
@tropic summit please glance over my CA teams in union pvp

So thats where the secret cooks are
there are no cooks you're not aware of anyway 
inside the cult
Isnt he put noah on p 4 ?
ITS rare to see someone put vesti in p1 and p2.
Also siren in p1 and p2 in ca.

if only there was a way to join 
hint hint
Should I act the same way?
@glad meteor Join our cult! We got chainsaws and cookies!
a lot of players using jackal p1 vesti p2
I like using Anis/SWHA/RapiRH/Crown/MaidMast, but man, there are some annoying stages in these chapters
woaah very cool, thanks.
also, do i need to level up their equipments or unleveled is fine
cult recruitment
you're synchro 160, your main objective atm is building up your campaign team and getting past lvl 160 wall
don't worry about pvp yet, run as is
i can almost break 160 wall, just need 1 more helm 
Oh right i forgot to put label
tbh not sure if I should use label, all the seasons with her the team never win wtf
Yeah
She never met Rosanna
help me big bro

im getting fisted in pvp
thats normal everyone experience that 

I lost to a counter, but that team performance is the best
its using swha and blanc tho 
ok we cooking 
wait nayuta gonna nuke that
or is it faster 
im bricked cuz my vesti have 14 ammo 
how is that brick
she reload while swha keep shootin n both have blanc buff 
if she have 12 maybe i could have win or 16
damn indom war 
fix my team bro
It's 2rl if the team meet nayu
@hidden mortar Woke up to see this baldness
yea but indom gonna be on time? 
I have skill issue 

imma wait for railtracer then
if you fight swha with indom just be like 1 RL slower in indom 
Indom mirror 
Can nayu team go below 2rl?
thats exactly why nikke.top exist

@minor egret can you tell me. which comp you used for def?
i cant read cant use that page
Depends how serious you are but you probably can get away without using her in attack for SPA
i wanna reach c4 but they all top up n im poor af 
yea nikke.deck way easier to understand, nikke.top you use it if you wanna know timings with the cs your units have 
Calculate it then
Sure
my braincells wont allowed me to understand ur words
Thank !
Right I guess
nayuta is faster by 2 frames 
if you fight centi phase 2, is it faster 
Centi will never recover from this...
Speak
Great minds think alike. Did you MK Ultra me?!
HOWEVER, what will only happen is we activate another 2 knuckleheads and instead of jumping from 3 to 6 and vise versa, we'd be jumping all over. 
Also, GO TF TO SLEEP! 
Isnt it just a bug
Not really. It's probably not intended but it's just how the game is coded since launch
when will new matis come?

Lmao, I just checked what the lowest CP team was used to clear Ziz, synchro 572... mine is 532 ๐คฃ ๐คฃ ๐คฃ ๐คฃ
Gonna be stuck here for a long time xD
You can do it!
Pffft, after 4 months maybe xD
Even with cs?
@candid knoll whats your sync when you hit Ziz before
I only put 18 cs jack, 21 doesnt change it. I set ada no cs does it matter 
Try 18 ada
I havent set my CA teams
time to looks for teams to copy paste
Already at work 
Any new def team ideas I got wanked
Mario/Luigi/Wario/Peach/Daisy
Swap Mario and Wario.
Whatever you do, don't use Rosalina, she got powercrept
Although, going for waifu pulls is fine
My bad, Wario in p1 is great because he Chomps and heals from all the projectiles
Also taunts. Bad form to put taunter in p3.
Makes Waft more powerful when bursting
Exactly
Meta is Toad x5
We have to wait for next Anniv event for Toad and Waluigi banners
can som1 fix this team ? I shouldn't ben losing to ppl with lower CP than me
Temperance or vigor on morab
remove jackal and replace with biscuit, put blanc in p2, replace ada with filler to hit 2rl or 2.5rl
you can also replace vesti with swha
ok
@tropic summit
need some help on def
team looks like this:
anis, blanc, filler (no b1), biscuit, swha
what is 2rl ?
how fast your pvp team bursts
Speed. Calculate it here https://nikke-deck.com/en/deck
Create, analyze, and share team compositions for Goddess of Victory: NIKKE. PVP Optimized.
charge speed ?
@swift mango should i swap diesel to pascal?
use this website to get 2rl or 2.5rl
not charge speed. in how many seconds your team bursts
RL stands for rocket launcher and has become the metric to measure how fast your team bursts
the general time that u need for shooting 2 rocket launchers
tldr just a time metric that ppl invent for this game
cuz 'murica
i dunno what this mean
as long as you are above 2rl your team bursts very fast. anything above it is negligible
2 RL is simply filling the burst gauge in 2 rockets
Probably easier to understand this way
the + button in the bottom corner is for charge speed. everytime your character has more than 5% charge speed in their OL lines
it provides additional "RL"
where are you blood
top one is for cubes, but usually you can ignore, aside from the orange cube - again for "RL"
when i cleared ziz, i was on 561 but with 600hp bar left
so i just push it to 581 and clear ZIZ + only one
All in one bundle
exactly
i would have lost more if i waited to go litle by litle on ziz
so better to clear 4 chap in a go
no im at altruia
saving for 601 but not sure that would be enough
we will see
Me 2 dawg
What is the best counter for pvp team: Moran, Noah, Helm (tr), SW:HA, and Vesti: TA?
depend on how you wanted to do it I guess.
I heard Pink Yoshi Banner is just around the corner with 1RL burst gen and is a nuker
Well, 561 is a lot closer to 532 than what 572 is
has anyone tried to cook nayu ada hp share team yet
ada lifesteal only works on B3 iirc
yea and if b3 regens hp nayu shares it with everyone
its tech that i found out while fighting farter stages in deficit and helm was lacking
cuz with helm u only regen hp when she bursts every other rotation
but ada with nayu makes u regen hp every burst regardless of who bursts
so now im thinking if we can abuse that in pvp
Yeah Ada only gives lifesteal to B3 who bursts
another stall team

am i cooking
like im trynna make 2 stall teams but need helm lifesteal on another team
and aside from helm, the only other unit that can give lifesteal is folkwang xd
maybe quiry as well
but those units r sooooo niche man im not ready to fully commit invest in them and field them in spa
I remember that shes real good to use, I just gotta learn what comps she works best in and go from there. didnt know she was that good with Absolute tho ๐ค. tho mine arent built
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Im considering building Lib but idk how much id really be able to utilize her and if I could make her stronger than my Scarlet, doesnt help that im also rather low on resources atm 
In pve you can run nayuta + moran/rrh + ada for a lot of shared healing but Im not sure this will work in pvp at all
SEE SOMEONE GETS IT
ada doesnt even need to burst cuz nayu hp share mechanic makes b3 lifesteal buffed share hp with everyone in the team
I run it quite often vs bronchus spam
no need for helm burst
Nayuta + ada or moranT is sometimes already enough but u combine if needed
which is why im thinking if we can abuse that for pvp
Cuz of aniss release I barely use RRH b1 anymore but I used to do that before she was out
I didn't run Scarlet or SG this season. Not even Rosa. I feel my team is so screwed ๐.
Hey at least I remember to put Label in last minute. 
you die in like 1 hit after proper b3 is attacking you, even anis can destroy your units if she is only b1, especially if they are water, so to run ada nayu tech you would need either some crazy hp buffs or at least dr, there just no time to properly heal with most units through heal share, and ada lifesteal is 10% not 50 like helm
yes yes thats why im asking for help to cook
im debating if i put bisc in the team for 2.5-3rl
or just run really fast 2rl no bisc
Working off someone's team, help me understand pls.
- What's this team's gimmick/synergy?
- What's Vesti's role in the team and are there better alternatives?
i am NOT SURE
Debating what? Preparation time is over.
its not for champs im cooking for spa
cuz im in top 4 and im out of ideas XDDDD
3-4rl Nayuta wipe. Just kill it with any wipe like scarlet for example so long as you don't die to normal attack from Vesti. It's more about flexing that CP.
altho maybe u can run it for champs as well
ok maybe its time to ask the pvp god himself
hmmm, well my scar team is dying to it, so looking to adopt it. But my Vesti is pretty uninvested, so wondering if there is an alternative?
@spiral onyx have u ever tried cooking nayu ada hp share for pvp
Noise+jackal+Trina+Scar+maybe AnisTT or any defender.
So long as you aren't deficit. His team is ass. 
It's beyond ass, not even a team to me, just normal attacking the team on my book. If you lost to it it's CP diff or you are ass too. 
baby of my bracket
My other teams:
- jackal blanc SWFA biscuit Laplace
- moranT AnisTT Cindy HelmT Noah
So wondering how to rebuild this 3rd team.

@umbral crown we doing the thing?
/shrug I've been out of meta for so long, so overhauling my teams now.
Why would alice be used in ca?
i haven't seen Alice used in CA or Spa... except as a copium option.
You used tech units to over killed. You definitely don't need that much burst gen in team 2. Remove Anis or Helm there to use as burst gen for team 2.
Or post you box and @tropic summit
Yeah I wonder why I see it in tav's ss lol
And at this point just use the common Rosa+Nayuta+3 SG for slot 3 would be better than that Vesti team tbh.
wtf lol
I've not really looked into Ada comps cause mine is only MLB. Explain the comp?
Ada only gives lifesteal to a B3 Burst unit
ada buff b3 with lifesteal
nayu shares that hp from that unit to everyone in the team
everyone gets lifesteal
tada
Not everyone gets lifesteal
The lifesteal that the b3 is doing gets equally shared
So if ur b3 is doing 5 damage then lets say everyone heals 1
Thats why combining it with a moranT / rrh was so good cuz they also get their own heals / benefit from ada lifesteal
Good mood
ye someone cooked nayu moran ada snow jackal
mine was initially anis moran nayu bisc ada
Rh usable in coop with destruction cube
personally i dont like anis reenter + bisc cuz its too slow
wait could use vesti instead of one SG too.
Nayuta+Vesti+LapT+Emi+Rose is legit. But CP is important. Post you boxes so other could cook for you.
maybe noise can slot in instead of moran
ye also need high firerate unit
or someone who just does multiple instances of dmg
Yea a tvesti that gets ada buffed heals a lot
but vesti ada is sloooooooowww
At least in pve. Maybe in pvp u do less dmg overall too or something
Yea u also need to fix burst gen somehow
Nayu + ada is already slow
@tropic summit
yes yes thats the issue
I just did basically the same team as last CA, only swapped Cindy out from one team and slotted in PrivaT instead and then changed team order 
Also, for CentiT what does treasure improve in PVP?
Treasure bricks you, unless you go for intentional feed team
How many pings is Rail be having
Nothing if anything it makes ur centi worse
so don't get treasure at all? Or stick to treasure 1?
At phase 2 and higher she gives everyone a decoy shield similar to cindy
So extra feed
If you just unlock but never upgrade is ok. I opted to just not treasure at all
Hehe
Phase 1 doesnt introduce this mechanic at all but its probably not worth the SR15 and multiple missions either
U can usually avoid using centi cuz theres so many good gen options unless ur CA
Centi is peak and deserves phase 1 treasure
not an issue, my Centi is already there, just need to read the treasure story.
Then leave it at that yeah
If you really want the lobby screen the Phase 1 is fine, but if you don't care about that then it is whatever
Be nice to your centi and she will be fast for you
Maximum
Phase 2 and 3 totally bricked
Its not
Bro I'm day 1. Centi was the goat B2 until Crown broke everything 
Centis feed is like 4% for 1, and 2 I have secret centi techs that im not sharing with the public
@raven plover 
I- isnt that impossible
Although, my Destruction is lvl 6, on Saturday lvl 7 ๐ญ
Share with me 
Never

Pretty please? With sugar on top?
I can give you a virtual cookie
No thanks, im already virtually fat
๐ช
How about a waifu?
Nvm, now I need to do my workout

Probably
Keep convincing we'll win

5th team so expensive
@umbral crown @tropic summit @hidden mortar 
Ada on burst really better than swha for the healing strat?
well u want snow to shoot more rather than do more dmg but shoot less
t1 - only drake lifesteal to heal team
t2 - ada gives lifesteal to units that previously used b3, so herself, which is also slow
t3 - has some chances, maybe, but mostly via anis nayu doing dmg
No someone who bursts and ada gives them lifesteal buff
and group 1
SU said you dont get to have fun in the last ca
Yeah so why wouldnt u want swha bursting then since she hits everyone
She lifesteals and kills people
these arent final lol

Ada can give the buff to anyone
proof of concept
Thats a bursting b3
Only B3 who bursts
Ada needs to sit in P4 or P5
wait thats the same team they ran last time. Did they not change anything?
Ive only used ada burst on atk indom
ada burst is decent cuz of s2 honestly
and she can give herself her own lifesteal buff
snow burst takes way too long she might just get nuked while charging
Rosy using folkwang
Prob nah
Yeah that could be true
I finally became a champion from below
Thats why comboing with Noah helps to give her time
I'm in group 43 btw. Got one of the whales in my SpA bracket in my group
well fair i havent thought abt noah nayu ada yet
hp share does work even if nayu herself doesnt burst
@tropic summit @umbral crown @nimble swan @shell hazel @hidden mortar

Kara the next Champion
The dream
folkwang 
Folkwank
Prove them wrong about Folkwang
Nice to see you forgot about the lib indom 
Ein is the way bro
I fell asleep and forgot to set CA teams 
What does folkwang do
Let the little drones do the work
emi haver?
Yes
my comps

fear my 3% jackal CS
Naisu
imagine we get CA bug and it runs at 60fps so Rapi is not doing half dps 
I went with this 
What does folkwang do
gonna be some ๐ฟ
this comp will go hard then
Nero moron 
nero stronk
I love Nero
sometimes we gotta innovate a bit too
Folkwang is Helm but only for 2 char on your team

Kek Tier SSS Rapipi
interesting
Folkwang was my first SSR and was on my team until I pulled flora 
I was considering indom options like neon priv ein etc - decided Rapi was more
๐ฟ
Neon indom while she nuke shots with her burst
@glad meteor scawuy
Ein doing the thing
Waos
My comps
I see a police lady
Here my cook for last season
how much CS you got jesus?! ๐ฎ
A little bit
I like my indom above 2rl
folkwang believers 
No cs on jackal keeps it that way
Blame kara, made me do the thing
Rate my cook
I was about to use blanc instead folkwang to get more win rate but then Ein would be missing indom

2.3 rl indom>2rl indom
@swift mango if we advance u and me r gonna be in the same group ๐ญ
prepare thy ass
i don't think this will win in sea group
T4 is very interesting
Probably, ally cooks been losing for almost 10 seasons.
That team will delete P1-p3 even with jackal
The counter for them is rh nayu or buscuit
cant be worse than mine
T3 try triple anis instead of privT
the sanis went in hererererererererer
Hi @umbral crown nice pfp and any ideas for attack or spvp def
With 3 Anis, it becomes too spicy for some people, gotta respect those who has IBS







