pvp-arena

[torn geode]

which means that if the opp team have like 125% or 130%+ 2.5RL they are actually nearing 2RL 100% threshold or even actually reaching/goes beyond 2RL?

[tropic summit]

if opponent is 125% or 130% to 2.5RL but not at least 100% to 2RL, they're still 2.5RL, it's just that they may hit 2.5RL a tad faster, so could be between 2.3RL and 2.5RL

[placid bloom]

it will depend on shot timing. At the very minimum they are 2RL, but any attacks that allow their team to reach 100% before 2RL will push them below 2RL.

if they are bottlenecked by rockets/snipers charging then the excess burst gen does not matter

the important thing is when a team reaches 100%, not whether they are over 100%

like this team has 134% but your bottleneck is slower charge timer so you are not faster than 2RL

[torn geode]

ohhh so the number does not mean that much. Only the burst gen tiers are as well as RL/SR cs affecting the generation timings

[placid bloom]

like I said, deck uses fixed points in time for reference. It just calculates how much burst gauge you will be at those times, but if you have shots that do not land on those exact points in time you will not get an accurate read on burst timing

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

a 91% or 97% becomes important when you're running jackal teams and can benefit from feed

[placid bloom]

this mainly applies to chars that don't reload between shots like Anis Star, Helm because sniper animation is faster than rocket launchers, and other chars that attack continuously like Label or SGs

[tropic summit]

because you can get those 9% or 3% missing via feed and still retain a 2RL team

[placid bloom]

their attacks will not fall on the standard rocket launcher shot timing

so you can be a split second faster or slower on some compositions

charge speed affects it too

[tropic summit]

@torn geode put this team in burst gen calculator and you'll notice it's not a 2RL, but it will become a 2RL with feed

[versed mesa]

I will never get over how satisfying a full clean sweep with Scarlet looks and sounds like

I've killed Noah teams with Scarlet because feed would be so good

[solid flare]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTcwNzAzOTIwMzg0NTU4MjkxMjE%3D could i have some comment on my CA teams please?

[tropic summit]

T1 is actually synergizing against itself
T2 low win ratio without stun gimmic or rosanna
T3 ok for the most part
T4 ok but wants natural 2RL
T5 ok

[mystic rain]

probably better to just run sg rosa instead of whatever tf that team 1 is supposed to do

id assume u want mihara and rapu to die and then mana res mihara then rosa burst into xanne res rapu and mihara b3?

but then what if they dont die and instead u just run into low kill pressure team or something

like idk man its so random

[solid flare]

I have cindy, sbs, liberalio siren, sumer anis, neoneon invested, is there anything i can do move the bottom 4 teams around? i consider the first team a throw away

[tropic summit]

T4 is expensive to run in CA

T2 instead is too cheap

T3 and T5 are sort of balanced

probably best reworking T2 T1 and T4

[solid flare]

what does expensive and cheap mean in this context?

[tropic summit]

the balance between threat and speed

similar archetypes to yours:

see how blanc, biscuit and noah are split from each others

anisTT can be comboed with biscuit or blanc, but you unlikely can combo all 3 together

[solid flare]

how badly do i need to invest into besti here?

[tropic summit]

4OL 20-40%atk is enough to be useful

the ideal is x2 ammo, x4 atk, x2-x4 ele and some crit rate

[solid flare]

dose she not need CS?

[tropic summit]

you won't need ammo if you run with absolute i guess

[tropic summit]

that's a given, she needs at least 5%CS

the more the better to land her rocket earlier, this can be further useful if running her with absolute

[solid flare]

ok i cant afford that in season then.

[tropic summit]

run her regardless, she's good even without

ridicolous damage output anyway

here's more ideas

(top 4)

[solid flare]

im missing 1/5 teams in every picture lol

[tropic summit]

perhaps run 4 strong teams and a throw away

[solid flare]

bay/vesti/nero/a,bsoloute

[tropic summit]

better than running 3 strong and 2 mid ones

[mystic rain]

run 3 really strong and 2 throws

[cunning crown]

flora believers we are so back

[versed mesa]

Do 1 team with collab units only

C4, last online 19 hours ago...

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/family-guy-peter-griffin-200--k01KS5ZDTC3M2PTGE60RN35Z0SM

[versed mesa]

Me sweating bullets here, then it turns out he doesn't actually give even a fraction as much thought to this than me and he logs in 2 hours after reset

[arctic jewel]

Hmmm, Mast and Flora in the same team? I thought having Rosanna was the way to go

[tropic summit]

he wanted to free up rosanna for scarlet team

[arctic jewel]

Oh, I see

[tropic summit]

seems to still retain some decent win ratio the scarlet rosanna variant

[arctic jewel]

I would imagine Rosanna makes it easier for Scarlet

I probably should upgrade my CA teams... but I'm too lazy, mostly because I don't have the Nikkes that I need built

[versed mesa]

I probably do, no idea what teams would actually have a chance to make with them

Would lose to team order rng anyway

[arctic jewel]

Ugh...

[minor egret]

This one was my bracket his Ein wiped every team against her

[arctic jewel]

Due to me having to spend rocks on my RapiRH, my PrivatyT is currently stuck with a pesky Max Ammo stat line... I can't use her currently

(Stuck on Gluttony on Hard mode, got that fat guy to 20 health bars 😭 )

[minor egret]

20 is nothing, you can probably get it if you try a little harder

[arctic jewel]

My second try was even worse, 150...

It's super annoying

[versed mesa]

Ah there he is, logged in just now

[arctic jewel]

I'll wait until I get better stats with Rapi, or get a synchro level or two

[arctic jewel]

?

[versed mesa]

C4 sniperoni

[arctic jewel]

we love sniping...

[minor egret]

I wanted that S guy to hit my def again today but he didn't. He just went -400 gems on the first day of the season between me and pleb while we only had to spend our 2 free attempts on him

[arctic jewel]

his own fault that he didn't spend his gems on something more valuable

[unique wagon]

Who is S guy

[minor egret]

CN player who seems to have a personal grudge with us for some reason. He do the weirdest things

[tropic summit]

Mr. S.

[leaden gull]

Team to beat this?

[arctic jewel]

Here, maybe this will make you feel better

[tropic summit]

anisTT blanc biscuit cindy swha

anisTT quantum
blanc vigor
biscuit vigor
cindy tempering
swha tempering

[minor egret]

I'm beating it with Moran Noah Helm Snow Siren in my rookie but that might just work for me because my rookie really isn't the strongest pvp warriors

[arctic jewel]

Ziz is wholesome and adorable

[minor egret]

Ziz is for patting

[gaunt pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-ziz-headpat-nikke-gif-8511975815462241357

[tropic summit]

we all know what he does to that thing

[abstract badge]

I will need some help coming up with teams for CA

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtOTIzMjE3NzE0MzQwNDg4ODYwMg%3D%3D

[glacial haven]

Need some suggestions. (He copied me)

[arctic jewel]

Commander needs more Heretics

[tropic summit]

never run your attack teams as defense teams

[solid flare]

is this any better?

[glacial haven]

Well. I don't. (Usually)

[lone sequoia]

if those are your DEF teams, why you don't know how to beat them?

[tropic summit]

fix T4 to blanc emilia s.anis biscuit rumani to make it SG resistant and better odds of indomming emilia

[glacial haven]

Besides... That's your monster @tropic summit.

[tropic summit]

T5 is really garbo, T1 T2 and T3 are ok

[glacial haven]

Rail cooked them for me.

[tropic summit]

do you've noise on 4%CS lower than noah?

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

he's got to fight his own poison

[placid bloom]

how confident are you in Vesti and Drake ele

[solid flare]

well i gave up on team 5 and tried for 4 strong teams.

i can take anything from team 5 if it would make teams 1~4 stronger.

[glacial haven]

Dunno.

[tropic summit]

move laplaceT instead of s.anis

[lone sequoia]

i would love we reach the day i don't know how to beat my DEF

[tropic summit]

check?

[placid bloom]

[lone sequoia]

i see a ss with treasured centi

[versed mesa]

Sigh, I didn't want to have to deal with this sniper bs anymore... Why can't he check my login and log off times and attack me while I am offline

[glacial haven]

Noah and Noise.

[placid bloom]

this my preferred way to deal with Moran Noah solo B2 if they don't got Biscuit now. There is Mermaid though so Drake better p1 to eat the stun

[tropic summit]

these should kill noah taunt priority i guess

[placid bloom]

there is no other taunter if it's Moran

they always aim Noah

[glacial haven]

The second line is ammo on Noah

[lone sequoia]

don't think about it, just hit and if he used gems, they will have to use more later

[versed mesa]

He saved his other free one and I still have mine

[placid bloom]

but I also have ele on Drake + Vesti which maybe people don't do for PvP

[glacial haven]

Well.. I can roll those lines

[tropic summit]

no need

[tropic summit]

remind me you've emilia?

[glacial haven]

Nope

Unfortunately.

[tropic summit]

assemble these and show CP

[glacial haven]

Nice

[placid bloom]

Drake eating SWHA to face is kinda scary without Jackal

[tropic summit]

could increase the odds by going 2 out of 3

[placid bloom]

hope that don't get punished

[tropic summit]

but i kinda wanna see how this goes

T1 and T3 are relatively on the safe side either way

[glacial haven]

Go for it?

[tropic summit]

give it a shot fire, yolo

[glacial haven]

lmao

[tropic summit]

haha beautiful

[glacial haven]

Sending replay

[tropic summit]

T3 losing is actually concerning

[placid bloom]

T1 link nuke shouldn't work cuz Cinderella still get indom as long as their Jackal live to B1

[tropic summit]

yeah which is probably what happened if helmT failed to 1hitko

[versed mesa]

That T3 looked solid to me, used almost the same plenty before

[tropic summit]

his noah died to anisTT and nayuta

i'm glad i got to test out my defense teams

because it's exactly what my opponents are facing

[solid flare]

Tried to take your ideas to heart.

[tropic summit]

T1 to T4 look ok, T5 just gonna pray for the best i guess

[placid bloom]

I would Nero team 3 but I can't expect people to build Nero

she is so fun though

[versed mesa]

Okay I think the C4 is gonna time the snipe so I won't even be able to do a counter without risking my refresh ticket by going over. He'll take it and I'll change to the new defense teams after

[placid bloom]

I think it's the most fun I had watching a team eat shots

[glacial haven]

@tropic summit

[solid flare]

team 1 is going to work right?

[tropic summit]

let's fix T2 and T3 either way

T2

• DrakeT vestiTU blanc centi jackal
  T3
• noise anisTT cindy noah helmT

[tropic summit]

@placid bloom faster than 2RL, yet still not in time, sassuga

[shell hazel]

@glad meteor please fix

[versed mesa]

Ah damn, might have made it, he hit me

[placid bloom]

which one, Helm?

[versed mesa]

Too late to risk counter

[lone sequoia]

what about vesti indom against swha and just tt+helmT T1?, i think moran can win against nayuta comp if you nuke them

[tropic summit]

and the noah @placid bloom

[placid bloom]

yeah Drake ate too much damage

[tropic summit]

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[placid bloom]

I didn't think she would survive until stun

without Jackal

[tropic summit]

ye but noah surviving is unlucky

[placid bloom]

I guess Nayuta faster than Noah, I knew she was faster than Blanc

[tropic summit]

a tad more invest on drake/vesti woulda change that

[tropic summit]

ye she is

[shell hazel]

my bro topyro reached alturia as well Rail

he needed 581

[placid bloom]

probably don't bother with Noise team 3

[tropic summit]

what killed lib anyway it's the dumb dmg spike from anisTT

[placid bloom]

should be Nayuta nuke

[tropic summit]

gotta run cindy to make that consistent

[placid bloom]

it's super fast

can just cut Noise and go Noah Anis Biscuit probably, you don't care if Biscuit dies

[tropic summit]

ye with biscuit even safer

@glacial haven fixes both whenever you wanna

if drakeT stays linked you can sub centi for SWHA for extra pressure on noah

hell even if she's unlinked it will fix that bit of HP left on noah earlier

[tropic summit]

can you slot swha without losing link on p1?

hell just run it

wait.

[glacial haven]

?

[tropic summit]

that's not noah on p1

noah error 404

she seems to have got a tan?

kinda changed hairstyle too

[glacial haven]

Fixed

[tropic summit]

righto, go get em

[versed mesa]

@tropic summit New defense up. Doing dailies and then hitting him

[glacial haven]

I put it be because of this

[tropic summit]

ah ye that was prior to biscuit suggestion

[glacial haven]

Then i changed biscuit and forgot noah

[tropic summit]

no worries, record

[glacial haven]

my bad

[versed mesa]

Didn't wanna risk since it flipped so close to reset

[glacial haven]

Just for good measure and record

[tropic summit]

yep all gud

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/cristiano-ronaldo-recording-gif-16005081735307115323

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/aimoto-rinku-d4dj-first-mix-5--k01KS62GXZG5WQ152Y9Y5236EXN

[quaint granite]

[glacial haven]

https://tenor.com/view/maury-sigh-gif-5851133302025912289

[tropic summit]

🍿

[glacial haven]

@tropic summit YOU ARE THE FATHER.

[tropic summit]

still... i'm kinda sad the earlier T1 didn't manage to prevent B1

helmT B3 frames are truly garbo

[glacial haven]

I tried to cook something on T1 but.... Almost?

[tropic summit]

team was like what... between 1.5RL and 1.8RL

[placid bloom]

Helm is really slow yeah. I remember testing her a bit and I remember her B3 getting caught by defensive B2 even at 0.5RL diff, similar to Cinderella

[tropic summit]

she can't nuke in time for this ^ to prevent B1, sadge

[lone sequoia]

nayuta/moran/helmTb3/mihara+flex

[placid bloom]

if they didn't have another B3 then the nuke link is fine

but they only need to make sure B1 resolves so it's way harder

[shell hazel]

3 x 0 rocks. @umbral belfry ...

[tropic summit]

the theory was:

2RL hits B3 before 2.5RL hits B2
as such, 1.5RL-1.8RL should hit B3 before 2.5RL B1 kicks in... but

[shell hazel]

[unique wagon]

I lost pvp and therefore Im sad

[versed mesa]

I got sniped TAV

[tropic summit]

all the rocks are going to @glad meteor anyway

x4 ele x4 atk on every unit, pve g0on

[placid bloom]

also don't know how much cs their Vesti has either, could be high

[tropic summit]

don't be sad, be happy

[shell hazel]

why didn't you just stop them?

[versed mesa]

Because I suck and I'm a failure

[tropic summit]

meh i didn't have consistency with the 2RL helmT sniperoni against slower than 2RL indoms with vestiTU/ada so far, i probably gotta give up on that

[lone sequoia]

sniped at last minute?

[shell hazel]

[versed mesa]

Could have probably made the counter snipe but didn't wanna risk since I don't have timing on load down

[lone sequoia]

or you send a hit to another person and try to wait 1 minute loading

3 stall comps to stall irl

[tropic summit]

the forbidden tech, the OG vesti because she drammatically increase loading times

[versed mesa]

I'm C1 I can't send a hit to anyone until I'm hit

[lone sequoia]

skill issue

[undone blaze]

Can this work? Neither Scarlet nor Jackal have an SR doll

[tropic summit]

you don't need soline with that team, jackal p1 is enough

sub her for something that gives you CP

[vague token]

Any rec on how to beat Bradley?

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit helmt swha moran

[lone sequoia]

same team+biscuit/blanc (?)

[tropic summit]

it's offburst anisTT fortunately for him

and offburst swha is stallable

if it's helmT indom is also stallable

[placid bloom]

I actually think it's doable to kill Blanc before B2 between Scar counter + Nayuta nuke but the moment their Vesti has any cs it becomes inconsistent

[tropic summit]

@vague token before running that suggested team ensure if you multiply enemy CP score for 0.846 that your team CP is above that value btw

[glacial haven]

Rail, Could I change something on my DEF team? I mean... I'm getting tossed all around in the SP. This guys it was on Challenger 3 pretty consistently without changing positions. Even with the same DEF teams.

I truly don't understand why people only attack me and dont manage to win agaist this guy.

[tropic summit]

i mean you saw his defense teams were the same you used for attacking and you used for defending before...

if they don't attack him with your own teams, then it's strange to begin with

[placid bloom]

actually it should be consistent with just 5% cs on Trina

[tropic summit]

@glacial haven try these next

• jackal vestiTU cindy blanc laplaceT
• nayuta anisTT privT drakeT helmT
• moran noah biscuit swha liberalio

[placid bloom]

kills Blanc + double iron linked units on Nayuta nuke

I love wind vs iron

[glacial haven]

No. I mean. Those team you made for me, it was getting pretty successful. I remember him attacking me relentlessly every single day. Even gemming me sometimes. One day, he did manage to win one day and pretty much copied me (You).

[tropic summit]

this accounts for feed ye? cuz nayuta + scarlet probably kick them into 2RL

[placid bloom]

this is feed yeah, Jackal linked Lap + Vesti

without feed they are like 3RL

[vague token]

I beat him with!

[placid bloom]

[unique wagon]

How does it work

[lone sequoia]

sync boost? (+21)

[tropic summit]

from what i remember it's due to the OG vesti B3 taking a huge effort on the servers to load

[unique wagon]

Because of the projectiles?

[tropic summit]

it slows down loading time even further than indom does

[tropic summit]

yeah

[lone sequoia]

burst and skill things you could go with makima, indom and vesti, probably a bit on device

[placid bloom]

hmm maybe not consistent, seem equal speed Jackal counter equal speed Trina

[glacial haven]

Not really

[tropic summit]

tbf it's crazy how that team even hits B1 in time

[placid bloom]

Nayuta feed a lot tbh

[tropic summit]

yeah

the funnier part is that i came up with that team by chance cuz i needed padding and cindy was highest built

[placid bloom]

guess Scar counter into stopping Blanc not the way to go if it's not p1-3

[tropic summit]

wasn't even intended but turned out better than it seemed once we faced it

although it's honestly just jackal funzies making it even work to begin with

[glacial haven]

Done it. Let's see if I'm able to gemming someone. (I hope)

[tropic summit]

could've been xmaiden woulda ended up probably the same

[minor egret]

Railtracer own me a rookie round because I just tested this and lost miserably

[tropic summit]

against that same exact setup?

we've seen cindy die and swha failing to get indom aswell so i dunno how consistent it even is

[shell hazel]

you were indeed right can in fact get datas

[tropic summit]

any 2RL anisTT blanc biscuit rookie team is utter cancer to fight consistently against

[lone sequoia]

what about nayuta/centi/mihara/helmT/moran?

[placid bloom]

didn't we do this Helm p5 indom set up before? Noah Moran Biscuit Lib Helm nuke with no Biscuit proc into Helm misindom walled by Biscuit tank

[tropic summit]

yeah except we had cases where lib died

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

i haven't found yet a "sure win" team against those

there's always something iffy either about CS% or invest

[placid bloom]

Lib p4 dead to SWHA after Moran B1?

[versed mesa]

@tropic summit Now I wait

[placid bloom]

seem their SWHA too fat

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

check what's your highest CP against what its his highest CP when you get a chance

[placid bloom]

oh wait Moran version is not 2RL

that's why

[quaint granite]

Did ye snipe

[versed mesa]

Got sniped

[placid bloom]

might have to change to Noise

[glacial haven]

Hey @tropic summit I forgot to send you the results for yesterday attempt on the rookie arena. (Yes, it's against the same guy on the SP arena)

[tropic summit]

his opponent logged off for 19hrs only to log in 5 minutes pre reset and snipe, true fanboy

[versed mesa]

Took it back after changing defense to what Rail gave me awhile back

[quaint granite]

At final minute of reset or early?

[tropic summit]

[versed mesa]

Final minute

[quaint granite]

KEK I just watch my final minute if I get sniped and I countered it before

[placid bloom]

I think Noise variant should be stable

if Lib still dying with Noise B1 then they are actually too fat

[tropic summit]

man if only there was a way for SU to prevent this

[quaint granite]

Yeah I counter sniped the final minute lel

[versed mesa]

I usually do as well, but it was so close this time, I didn't want to risk rolling over and losing a ticket from refresh

[glacial haven]

Again, Thank you so much for your time and patience. (And everyone else involved in the discussion)

[tropic summit]

the vestiTU drakeT version and biscuit addon was actually thanks to @placid bloom

[quaint granite]

Just switch your teams around and he'll screw himself over lol

[tropic summit]

i'm still recovering from my dissapointment in helmT B3 activation timing

[quaint granite]

Not sure how they can prevent this crap unless forcing all of us to spend gems and no more free tries, they are only allowed at the start of the season.

Like you can have 2 free tries at the start of the season and thats it

[tropic summit]

1. attack can only be carried out up to 2-4 hours before reset
2. the last 2-4 hours are reserved to a single attack back from the defender if they got attacked

fix ratting, fix sniping, let people who don't spend 24/7 online get their rank back

[versed mesa]

Omg please, this would be so ace

[quaint granite]

The major problem is Timezone

[versed mesa]

If I ever work on any kind of game with a pvp system, I am hiring you.

[glacial haven]

Thank you @placid bloom for the idea and the help. I couldn't done without you guys.

[tropic summit]

doesn't matter i'd take it anyway, it mitigates it at least and it doesn't necessarely have to be 2-4 hours, could be 8 for all it matters, even better cuz then people are motivated to stop being 24/7 online and actually use their attempts like dailies

the world would heal, we'd invent cat girls and be as happy as ever

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/money-ohara-mari--k01KS6471GVVY973S17RJ97T1WC

[quaint granite]

Maybe your idea is good since you attack that guy once and he can counter it later without worry unless he loses to the attacker's setup defence

[versed mesa]

I tried that before, didn't work

[placid bloom]

btw what you think of this abomination I made

[tropic summit]

yeah it motivate a healthier mindset anyway, killing ratting and sniping should be a QoL priority

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/reaction-mother-of-god-1--k01KS648J4B4NVGBT842AJC1RM6

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-snow-white-absolute-cinema-gif-2397554993248994567

[tropic summit]

T1 doesn't mitigate or resist indom though, you sure of that one? @placid bloom

i like T2 and T3

[placid bloom]

it is to take their Blanc away so they can't Blanc t3

I don't think anything atm clears t3 without dmg taken debuff atm

[tropic summit]

hmm but then they can still T2 with moran noah biscuit helmt swha and indom T1 no?

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

if anything you're pretty sure they'll skip T3 or take the bait

[placid bloom]

well it depends whether SWHA fat enough to one tap Moran with 1 charge shot without proc Biscuit

maybe SWHA not that fat

[tropic summit]

yeah that's true

you'd punish bad invest if anything

looks decent overall i guess

[placid bloom]

tbh most of the time I am disappoint with SWHA 1 shot dmg vs Moran even with Blanc, feel like a lot of it rely on proc landing to finish

so maybe it's not good

[tropic summit]

C7 moran SR15 on tempering is just... really thicc

[versed mesa]

Oh on defense? The teams you gave me are 3.2m, 3.19m and 3.1m. His defense teams were 2.78m, 2.82m and 2.61m

[haughty mortar]

Is it true that it's safe to go Centi stage 3?

[tropic summit]

it would help knowing if you can gap him on one team and then focus on 2 others

it's a whel tech but if he's a pvp main it may be your only weapon left if he keeps clearing

[tropic summit]

who told you that

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

I mean Centi actually got cut from a lot of team now since we got enough battery, maybe it's okay to p3 Centi for specific attack set up

if you not actually using her on def anymore

well not for CA

[versed mesa]

Yeah his weakest team I can gap but barely. Also he hides his synchro with lvl1 nikkes on profile, but he is 723

[tropic summit]

he's technically not wrong with that statement

[placid bloom]

if you doing CA still have to leave her p1

cuz we don't have enough to 5 team battery

[tropic summit]

but eh... there's other ways that don't need treasuring centi to achieve the same result

[tropic summit]

truly a nice specimen you've in your hands

[versed mesa]

He has very few max cores, atleast when I can see his teams after he has won. I think he might be full f2p

So mitigates gemming risk, but if he can cook attacks it's kind of moot, unless I flip to defense ticket use with a snipe myself

[placid bloom]

I also think Centi with Blanc is awkward most of the time like you don't really want to put her p5 because it is weak to sniper but if you put her p4 then it make Blanc weak to Vesti

[tropic summit]

true underdog warrior if he never gems and only snipes

[placid bloom]

only solution is to have Centi linked but who have that

[tropic summit]

0.00001% of the community, which may also happen to be on accident cuz rolled x4 atk% by coincidence

[versed mesa]

Oooooooooh!

[tropic summit]

lmao he went in straight

[lone sequoia]

skill issue

[tropic summit]

change def now and then change back to that one after you reclaim

so he can't test it further

(without gemming)

[lone sequoia]

1 round team change every 30sec, so he doesn't know what is hitting with quick battle

[haughty mortar]

So imma not go beyond p1

[lone sequoia]

i made a whale waste 4 hits changing T2 to T3 in 2 minutes

[tropic summit]

a safe decision

[hot shuttle]

@tropic summit i still need help for the teams i mentioned before

star anis/noah/swha/cinderella/biscuit

noah/t-moran/biscuit/t-helm/swha

I have tried jackal/vesti/t-laplace/blanc/t-helm for the first team

jackal/swha/t-laplace/blanc/vesti for the second.

unfortunately, vesti dies on first team before blanc can activate inform.
and swha doesnt have less hp than vesti on the second one.

can you suggest some replacement?

[haughty mortar]

Can you plz educate Dondo about it? I think I put it clearly. CA brick, and tied to the hip with Blanc otherwise I suppose.

[solid flare]

damn someone is mad

[lone sequoia]

the current survey is for the rhythm game... nikke EoS

[haughty mortar]

There is a Survey?

[lone sequoia]

yep

[versed mesa]

Put the old defense back, but with different order than previously

[lone sequoia]

at least they asked about the maps

jinx player is the worst they did

[tropic summit]

i already put negative feedback on everything, dumb ass survey

[versed mesa]

I do wonder if he will try to change his own defense now

[lone sequoia]

i wrote my copy paste about fixes for the base game

[tropic summit]

it's not necessarely brick but a choice, as in you can't use centi regularly anymore but on a much more restricted pool of teams
all in all i'd advise to NOT get her treasured, but it's not the end of the world

[versed mesa]

He has kept mostly the same only switching 1-2 nikkes around on his weakest cp one

[lone sequoia]

that is common, you change a nikke for a different one that do the same and a bit more

[tropic summit]

remind me, can you run vestiTU laplaceT and RH together without losing link on vesti?

e.g. run vestiTU blanc RH laplaceT jackal in shooting range and confirm vestiTU has "jumping jackal"

[lone sequoia]

like the xanne- trina swap

[tropic summit]

wait there's 2 SWHA here

[hot shuttle]

two separate rookie teams

[tropic summit]

and both rookie didn't work?

[lone sequoia]

they also asked about favorite songs, watch them ask way more money for a top10 song pack

[tropic summit]

ah link issues

i just read

[versed mesa]

Lol the C2 who I share rookie with, I think he was doing his attacks on me while I was changing cubes around so my rookie defense cp changed in the mix there is a 10 minute gap between attacks at one point, where he was doing 3 before minute apart

[tropic summit]

@hot shuttle did you try to fix with vigor cubes for correcting links

[swift mango]

Most scenarios that she will die without cube she will also die with cube.

[tropic summit]

vestiTU is actually so healthy you might aswell indom vestiTU instead

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

[hot shuttle]

no that was not mentioned. Who do you want to have vigor?

[tropic summit]

so wait from what i understand if swha + vestiTU + laplaceT together, your swha is NOT linked, correct?

[placid bloom]

surely I don't get punished for this

[tropic summit]

@hot shuttle

these are your links

[glad meteor]

What did i miss

[tropic summit]

change order to:

jackal vestiTU blanc swha laplaceT @hot shuttle

and give these cubes:

jackal quantum
vestiTU tempering
blanc vigor
swha tempering
laplaceT vigor

[swift mango]

That guarantee Crit would most the time never come up because Miranda would just die. And SW hits don't have guarantee Crit in Arena aside from the charge shot.

[hot shuttle]

yeah, that’s what I’m confused about.

[versed mesa]

@tropic summit I do wonder what is going through his head right now, seeing my old defense back up after that flip

[tropic summit]

you need to run swha offburst and indom vestiTU from what it looks like

then it should solve that team

[versed mesa]

Prolly so jacked about the succesful snipe

Then boom

[tropic summit]

if he's not stupid he knows perfectly well what you doing, that you'll put it back if he tries again and he'll need to gem

[versed mesa]

I'm gonna be up for awhile still. He might just save for a new snipe, or he will attack before he logs off and just throws his hands in the air, maybe change his own defense

[tropic summit]

either way by missing he's down 1 attempt so you can reclaim and put new def back, he can't snipe back until tomorrow

or he has to wait reset today...

[versed mesa]

If C3 doesn't move, I wouldn't mind if he hit me while I am a sleep, he could wrack up enough points to beat out C3, would have no problem being C4 while I'm off

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

yeah what was linked was lvl 1 folk

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

@hot shuttle did you try again with the new order and cubes?

record if you do

once you clear that one we can try the other team

[hot shuttle]

standby. i’m adjusting the cube and getting ready

[swift mango]

Level 7 is free.

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

are you gonna run folk this season?

[swift mango]

Idk probably won't run anything good. Waste 10 rocks on Anis just to rise 1 line from tier 3 to tier 4.

[tropic summit]

i thought you were saving up

you lied

[hot shuttle]

I lost gonna send the video now.

[swift mango]

I just want her line to look well. I don't use pulls anymore for sure.

[lone sequoia]

save rocks for iron scar

[tropic summit]

maybe you got indom right this time but no ammo

[swift mango]

Wtf?

[tropic summit]

what's your vestiTU CS% again?

[lone sequoia]

you don't know?

[versed mesa]

I'm trying to just save my boxes now, to get a bigger boost once new chapters come along. Will probably use some though if he starts using his to try and close the gap more

[hot shuttle]

?

[shell hazel]

you had to deal with the crypto scammers

[tropic summit]

nvm it won't matter, they're lifestealing SWHA past your ammo regardless

you need a different approach

time to run the anisTT privT approach

@hot shuttle anisTT blanc privT biscuit swha

[hot shuttle]

cube preference?

[tropic summit]

anisTT quantum
blanc vigor
privT tempering
biscuit vigor
swha tempering

[swift mango]

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

@hot shuttle might wanna play it safe and run noah instead of blanc just to prevent helmT nuke and lifesteal

anisTT noah privT biscuit swha (same cubes, noah tempering)

[mighty haven]

@tropic summit I love it when a fight ends with team dying by 1 shot nuke

[gaunt pulsar]

mirror with anisTT p1, so it's just anis/noah/bisc/helm/swha

[glad meteor]

2-1-1

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/thanxy-gif-9009172360785022001

[tropic summit]

hax

[hot shuttle]

victory! that’s one team down one to go.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anya-forger-spy-x-family-31--k01KS66C7TWS4GCH2BBMDZ5WDGH

[glad meteor]

How come anisTT in p1

[mighty haven]

Gone within milliseconds

[tropic summit]

@hot shuttle next up is uh anisTT noah swha cindy biscuit

[glad meteor]

[hot shuttle]

yep, that’s the one

[glad meteor]

Semi Retired

[tropic summit]

what do you use against anisTT noah swha cindy biscuit @gaunt pulsar @glad meteor

at least it's noah so maybe we can out trade with blanc

[glad meteor]

💳

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/getout-28--k01KS6658KSAZ8XYHTG6C4HWHJG

[mighty haven]

[glad meteor]

What is a counter even. Just sync up

[gaunt pulsar]

rosa/jackal/blanc/anis/swha

[glad meteor]

WUWA?

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon look what you've done, you've infected him

[hollow lagoon]

[glad meteor]

Chisa

[tropic summit]

oof i don't think he has rosa built to run that

[hot shuttle]

I think I do? what are the requirements?

[mighty haven]

Plz
First unit I win 50/50 on since start

[tropic summit]

look at the details

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-in-13-seconds-slide-in-meme-funny-true-gif-2616800489741375308

[tropic summit]

40%atk 40-60%ele 7/10/10

[glad meteor]

Blanc anis vesti swha biscuit I guess

[tropic summit]

you gonna vesti it uh

[glad meteor]

Could switch swha and vesti pos depending on whats better

[shell hazel]

counter of sync levels surely?

[hot shuttle]

ok ele is a problem only 16.55% and also 7-7-10

[gaunt pulsar]

i dont think i need her here it's mainly just boring same setup that i dont change against anis+noah+swha ones, speed from jackal and anis can be crucial though to not get wiped from anis or cause missindom on yourself

[glad meteor]

Skill issue. Get rich noob

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/thanxy-gif-9009172360785022001

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-avengers-endgame-old-man-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-14669627

[hot shuttle]

@tropic summit this team?

[tropic summit]

run in shooting range and check if rosanna has higher HP than swha

rosanna jackal blanc anisTT swha

[hot shuttle]

copy that stand by.

[tropic summit]

you can give rosanna vigor ahead of time

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

what do you've to do to achieve this?

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-sesame-street-shrug-idk-i-have-no-idea-gif-2724737697653756220

[shell hazel]

Rail

burst gen data is tricksy

[tropic summit]

[hot shuttle]

do you want me to record or anything?

[tropic summit]

enter battle (shooting range)
pause
click on rosanna, check HP
click on SWHA, check HP

[glad meteor]

Always record

The battle that is

[hot shuttle]

got it on it’s way

[glad meteor]

12 rocks. Next banner may be a support so I can save rocks and spend on bready maybe

[hot shuttle]

it seems like it is

[tropic summit]

ye looks good, will indom SWHA

give it a shot with that team and record

[hot shuttle]

got it cube are ok as is? i changed rosanna’s cube to vigor

[tropic summit]

rosanna vigor
jackal qunatum
blanc vigor
anisTT quantum
swha tempering

[fair turtle]

@tropic summit (sorry for ping) last time you helped me out you told to start building my centi, moranT and Trina. I got noise since then, is she higher priority than Trina or do I still build her first?

[tropic summit]

this ye? #pvp-arena message

[fair turtle]

Yep!

[tropic summit]

wouldn't really be able to slot noise anyway and she wouldn't change much even if built, would be nice although for you to unlock noah

i'd say build up centi if she's already built, if you starting from scratch on both centi and trina, just built trina instead

[hot shuttle]

victory! with Snow White having 0% health.

[tropic summit]

@gaunt pulsar sassuga

[hot shuttle]

oops, wrong reply

[tropic summit]

no worries i saw it, good job winning

[shell hazel]

lomarion strikes again

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/sinking-captain-gif-24570619

[gaunt pulsar]

you win even if you dont wipe noah

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/sailor-moon-but-you-didnt-do-anything-gif-15435282

[gaunt pulsar]

but wiping always nice

[tropic summit]

yeah i was about to ask you if 1hitko on noah was mandatory

[hot shuttle]

now i can rest easy thanks @tropic summit @gaunt pulsar I appreciate it! i’m on four hours of sleep. so now I have to worry about them until they change their team again.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/and-you-know-this-how-cross-on-prime-how-do-you-know-this-how-did-you-find-this-out-how-are-you-aware-of-this-gif-5337525219724311696

[tropic summit]

haha no problemo, enjoy your sleep

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lord-of-the-rings-saruman-i-have-seen-it-side-eye-gif-786840639263783404

[hot shuttle]

👍🏻 thanks again guys! @tropic summit @gaunt pulsar

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-potter-invisible-magic-magical-gif-13477941

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/snape-grab-harry-invisibility-cloak-gif-16071212663809162075

[tropic summit]

still remember watching this in the movie theater with popcorns at hand

[shell hazel]

you think they screwed up btw with the whole deathly hallows thing?

old harry potter running around with 1 and people knew he had it in the earlier movies - and yet no one thought to tell him? lol

[tropic summit]

tbf i just hope the remake or whatever monstruosity they're making it's not gonna ruin its reputation

[fair turtle]

I see. My centi is like 2/4 OL right now and Moran is 3/4 and I'm working on her doll (already have all the mats for her fav item). I'll work on Trina then while I wait to get the last pieces for those two

[versed mesa]

Didn't seem important

[fair turtle]

Much appreciated again. Thank you @tropic summit

[drowsy hedge]

how to counter siren stun

[shell hazel]

I don't have much hope for it except HBO I think and they usually do a reasonable job

still beloved franchise remake

[lone sequoia]

kill her before she stun

[shell hazel]

[drowsy hedge]

[versed mesa]

Didn't even watch the movies past the 4th one. Book main. Like the only series where that is the case for me

[tropic summit]

depends, what does the team look like

[shell hazel]

not best films ever but not worst either

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/virgin-punk-maggie-gun-running-anime-gif-11971296500080403625

[versed mesa]

The first 2 movies are actually some of my favorite movies, but 3 and 4 just... They weren't it for me

[shell hazel]

speaking of movies I need to watch the nikke movie

[tidal lichen]

the what

[shell hazel]

nikke movie above

[lone sequoia]

you can play your cards before the stun (speed) change position of important units to not get stun in time, you can clean the initial debuff with sora or xmica or cocoa, you can use neon p1(debuff immune)

[tropic summit]

oh it's p4 siren @drowsy hedge

run noah in any p but p1

e.g:

• noise rumani cindy helmt noah
• moran anisTT cindy helmt noah
• moran anisTT lib swha noah
• moran noah biscuit helmt swha
• anisTT noah biscuit cindy swha

B1 on 2RL is siren immune

and siren if not in p1 or p2 won't be taunted by noah

[drowsy hedge]

btw is this decent team for pvp? i kinda dont know what im doing

[tropic summit]

missing emma to run proper absolute so not the best

i suppose you aiming for a rookie team?

[drowsy hedge]

ye

[tropic summit]

these are the most solid atm:

• anisTT blanc helmt biscuit swha
• anisTT noah privT biscuit swha
• anisTT blanc biscuit cindy swha
• anisTT noah helmt biscuit swha

[lone sequoia]

you can use all your highest cp units to cp gap opponents

[shell hazel]

post your blabla we see if set menus work

if you want

[drowsy hedge]

https://www.blablalink.com/user?openid=MjkwODAtMTU5MTg2Njk4MzUzNjE3MjY5ODc=

[versed mesa]

I am now Commander level 850

[shell hazel]

Rail menu A

your noah isn't synced though?

[drowsy hedge]

she's got nothing lmao, i dont do pvp

[lone sequoia]

new toy?

[shell hazel]

biscuit not built

[tropic summit]

next step: make it return the best optimized CP set

[shell hazel]

it already does that vs the sets

[tropic summit]

(from all loaded sets)

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/takumi-nishijou--k01KS68H91KWGN04SCFXV2MY20G

[shell hazel]

I need more sets

and to fix zanta sets (I was correcting CS)

as zanta menu A in here twice lol

[tropic summit]

damn that tool looks more powerful every day

[shell hazel]

I didn't even touch the pvp stuff really in a day or two I'm making world raid

[versed mesa]

Can it give me CA teams?

[tropic summit]

world raid

[shell hazel]

it can if I add them

[lone sequoia]

you can't check CA from blabla (?

[shell hazel]

nop

nothing at all unless they add it

[lone sequoia]

what about the scrip to check UR personal dmg?

[shell hazel]

for all unions? that is what world raid is for

I pull top 3% unions and then I find various users and subsequently the related data

[versed mesa]

Based on UR? That means my scruffy union is there too Actually I think you showed a screenshot some days ago of it

[drowsy hedge]

whats this mean

[shell hazel]

teams for SPA (rookie really would be something else lol)

[cedar sorrel]

Rail shared rookie teams above

4 teams all including aniss biscuit and swha

[shell hazel]

your pvp nikkes sorted by CP - 🧱 centi included

please fix your noah and biscuit!

they look tragic

[lone sequoia]

check dm

[fickle furnace]

what is this site?

[shell hazel]

I'm making it it's local only

[tropic summit]

it's hippo secret tech

still in beta

[fickle furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/raven-stellar-blade-stellar-blade-raven-gif-4495761218867554382

[cunning crown]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-but-notthis-day-lotr-gif-14120761

[drowsy hedge]

out of curiosity, why maiden on that third team?

[lone sequoia]

good enough to recruit people for UR

maiden works as a safe b3 and burst gen unit

[shell hazel]

defender so she doesn't steal indom easily

[gritty ridge]

Chat can I borrow a bunch of battle data

[shell hazel]

b3 so dps+

[gritty ridge]

I just need some

[shell hazel]

[versed mesa]

How are you low on battle data

[lone sequoia]

gamba everything on credits

[tropic summit]

serves actually multiple purposes:

• mitigates rosanna, as she'll be next to be indommed if both attackers get nuked pre B2
• battery
• defender so won't be as easily stealing indom if enemy runs p3 pressure

[versed mesa]

Also she THICC

[shell hazel]

but that Noah makes me sad to look at

[drowsy hedge]

sorry im not a pvp guy lmfao

tho tbf there's never been much of a point in investing in pvp for my bracket at least, cause its a day 1 bracket so i just get cp gapped by everyone

[versed mesa]

Me neither, but here I still am

[shell hazel]

well noah is no-brain to invest in she's like best b2 in pvp

and biscuit is awesome flex unit

[lone sequoia]

pray that you never become one

[lone sequoia]

you can just build for pve, more units will do everything and the resources for pvp only units will be wasted, you can wait for the broken units like anis or swha to do their thing and get the free win in pvp

[drowsy hedge]

well you see i just cp gapped my way into any diamond tier and just didnt do pvp at all for months

[shell hazel]

well noah worth building a bit to me

[lone sequoia]

jackal, blanc, helmT, laplaceT probably those units work for everything, the rest are pve value or pvp value, now anis teams can just win

[versed mesa]

I always heard that gacha games are always a whales world in pvp, so I never wanted to even bother. Until that cursed day that I saw that I had the same or better CP as the top 5 in my bracket. So I started climbing.

[drowsy hedge]

there's like 100 synchro levels of diff between me and the top 30 of my bracket

[versed mesa]

Not gonna lie, I am almost jealous. If there was such a massive gap, I would not be nearly as bothered trying to keep a high rank

[drowsy hedge]

day 1 brackets are brutal man

[versed mesa]

They sure are (I am day 1)

[lone sequoia]

day 1 player, retired from pvp for 3+months already

[drowsy hedge]

well i also didnt play particularly optimal for some time on my first year so my synchro is also a lot lower than it could be

[lone sequoia]

day 1 is around 721+ min max is around 741+

average around 681 or 701

[drowsy hedge]

im 600

[lone sequoia]

ok,that is a big problem

[drowsy hedge]

indeed

[shell hazel]

yeah gotta be near 700+ now for day 1

[versed mesa]

741 for me, 743 if I use the tiny resource hold I have

If I had played optimally from the start could probably be way higher. I didn't even do the hardmore cd box thing from events for like 6months to a year until I saw a comment about it

[shell hazel]

I can see your union yep I will be adding more detail though soon

I should be able to track actual damage and members and stuff soon like that rip site does

union rank position doesn't change it seems for S40 until it finalises

your avg sync looks pretty low for your union

[versed mesa]

Still feels crazy we are that high, I never had any super high requirements for joining

[shell hazel]

you're carrying a bit prob lol

you're higher than our highest

our highest sync is 704 and it's not even zanta

[versed mesa]

Our lowest is like 250 something

Yeah 252

[shell hazel]

yeah our lower end is much higher

mid 400's

[versed mesa]

I have a 525 who hasn't logged in for 10 days, might've quit

[shell hazel]

oof

is it your union?

[versed mesa]

Made it day 2

[shell hazel]

oh wow, a lot of unions must have been added day 1 then? I see union id 3542

those are sequential

[versed mesa]

Yeah

[shell hazel]

id = 1 literally first union added

in global that is this one

[glad meteor]

[versed mesa]

A lot of them are dead too though

There was actually a whale in my server who based on his synchro must have have spent thousands. He quit like 8 months in. It took me almost a year until I went past him in the rankings

[shell hazel]

yeah happens, I seen people quit who spent a lot

[versed mesa]

Even if I had that kind of money, I can't see myself ever be willing to spend anywhere that much for practically anything

I would be like Scrooge McDuck, sitting on a literal pile of money and counting pennies that I don't get overcharged for a cup of coffee

[shell hazel]

I spend a bit but I save most of my money tbh as well

[arctic jewel]

or you're good with stonks xD

[versed mesa]

My stonks are actually up a decent amount

[shell hazel]

not as good as I'd like lol

I sit in disbelief as the stonks rally higher and higher

most of my liquid cash is just in cash earning interest now, I'm going to pay down mortgage a bit at renewal

[versed mesa]

I only wish I had started in my 20s instead of 30s, would be in a much better spot now

[shell hazel]

I'll wait for a good dip before diving in some more again, stonks won't go up forever is my thinking anyway

[versed mesa]

There are a few skyrocketing tech stonks I have, constantly teetering on if I should sell just enough to get back my initial money, so whether it goes up higher or crashes I would still be in the green

[shell hazel]

hard to say - don't listen to me I clearly missed this giant endless pump lol

[versed mesa]

Yeah this is not financial advise

[shell hazel]

yeah I don't wanna be responsible for your missing out as well as myself lol

if stonks drop I'll look at buying more - else for me probably just throw more at overpaying mortgage to clear it a bit as it's debt

[cobalt garden]

would a kind PvP guru help me out with team building for Rookie and SP arena? So far ive only been using my highest CP in Rookie but am getting completely destroyed now by lower CP team in both Rookie and SP arena as i have no clue how to team build, which positions to put my units in etc. Here's my current roster.

[shell hazel]

gimme your blabla link

[cobalt garden]

blabla link?

[shell hazel]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad

[cobalt garden]

oh dont think ive ever used that

ive only been playing for a few weeks so far

do i just login using my nikke account?

ok done, do you just need the UID?

[frozen locust]

This team is weak to Siren stun right? Would it be better to put SAnis is P1 instead?

[humble tiger]

That's one less thorn on my side.

[wild patio]

observe the gap between my attack and defense break

[humble tiger]

Ey. You're just like me. Getting attacked by the same guy everyday and no one else.

Do you camp the screen for 20 hours a day?

Whoa wtf? I refreshed and saw these lmao.

[rich quail]

Same

My bro needs a life

He hits me twice a day nowadays until he eventually tries other people once in a while

[humble tiger]

It's so strange when I win defense. Cuz my team is so ass.

[compact eagle]

Why would you? Just do your hit right before bed and then it's up to them to shift their whole sleep schedule around you

[humble tiger]

Nah. I say he's just doing what he can. He's a no life if he starts gemming just to beat you.

[humble tiger]

That's my life before the reshuffle.

[arctic jewel]

finally

[rich quail]

Most people in Japan from what I have experienced will not gem

Save for a few unsavory characters that are true scum of the earth

[humble tiger]

Let's see...

Documenting every single online time everyday for the past 3 seasons, putting them in paper and even some spreadsheets.

Camping the SPA screen for 20 hours a day to avoid falling from 3 → 6 → 8.

Actually getting premonitions and nightmares about getting attacked in PvP mid-sleep, wake up at 2:00 in the morning, check SPA, and actually find that someone attacked me at around 1:45 AM.

Carefully shuffle my attackers so they use all their attacks before I swoop in and reclaim my position.

Change my defense team everyday to throw off my attackers and make them waste an extra attempt to pull me down. And since they don't gem, I can just claim my spot once they've used their attempts.

CHANGE MY DEFENSE TEAM AS THEY MAKE A COUNTER TO MY OLD DEFENSE TEAM SO THEIR NEW COUNTER WILL LOSE AS WELL.

[shell hazel]

is this bugged?

[placid bloom]

no, deck accounts for Anis team burst gen buff

it's per bullet

[shell hazel]

oh anis adds how much extra?

[placid bloom]

like 6% of her base per bullet

.06 x .014 = .00084 x 39 bullets at 2RL on Nayuta = +3.276%

well there is some round error I guess

actually no it should be about correct?

.039 + .356 + .03276 is .42776 so yeah 42.78 is correct

[shell hazel]

Burst Gauge filling speed 6% ▲ continuously.

[versed mesa]

Oh right the SB collab boss minigame was added. I need to clear it for the gems at some point

[livid wadi]

Could I get help for making an sp arena team
https://www.blablalink.com/user?openid=MjkwODAtMTgzMDQ0OTU0MTUwMjYwOTAxNTA=

[shell hazel]

I replied yesterday your nikkes were set to private

[abstract badge]

I will need some help coming up with teams for CA

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtOTIzMjE3NzE0MzQwNDg4ODYwMg%3D%3D

[stone heart]

Gawd damn you remind me of my trouble 🫥
I only got vesti for clearing campaign, PVP suck most of my resource 😅

[shell hazel]

what is .014 here?

[livid wadi]

Alr I fixed it sorry for the trouble

[placid bloom]

Anis's base gen per target hit.

1.4%

[glad meteor]

@tropic summit @shell hazel raven propaganda. One handed gaming

[cobalt garden]

how do i share my blablalink? could use help with team building for Rookie and SP arena

[shell hazel]

trying to convince claude to do this but it's struggling 😄

[glad meteor]

Go to shiftypad and click the arrow at the top. You may need to adjust privacy settings

[cobalt garden]

ok ty

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtMTA1OTY1MDYyODA5ODMxODg2NDU%3D

[shell hazel]

what can I tell claude so it knows what to do with this one? 😄

[terse abyss]

out of curiousity i checked some of the top rankers in SP arena this rotation, all these guys have 70-100 costumes alone, im like damn, people sure love spending in this game

[placid bloom]

well the proper way to do it is make a final variable for Anis's burst gen and use that as a reference for every calculation afterward, but there is the lazy way of just telling it to add 0.00084 flat to every bullet (or 0.084% if you are going by 100% base instead of 1)

[shell hazel]

that changes on targets hit though?

[placid bloom]

yeah but deck bullet accounts for splash already

that's why it's formatted as xx~xx

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-meme-anime-react-anime-reaction-arakawa-gif-8258439823509290590

[shell hazel]

for trina it boosts her burst per rocket from 14.4 to 14.7360?

deck is quite simple it must just be multiplying the burst gen by something?

anis counts herself already

[placid bloom]

deck should just be char base gen x number of targets hit (3.6% base x 4 targets per shot in the case of Trina because p1 + p2 + 2x cover)

you just add Anis's buff to Trina's base gen, so 3.6 + .084

you'll have to add some other shit too like quantum or whatever but it's all additive to base gen

[shell hazel]

quantum is fine to handle I think as it just multiplies it

but for trina and nayuta etc it adds a bit but it's hard for me to quantify it as I don't fully understand it either lol

[placid bloom]

it's easier to just add to base gen because the number of targets never changes for each weapon type

and you can get all the base gen values off nikke.gg, not sure if there's a better place to grab them

I guess you can grab them off top since top has them as per shot values

actually no, top already calculates the burst gen per shot

so it doesn't have the base value

you'd have to get it from nikke.gg I guess

maybe the JP side compiled a spreadsheet that's easier to work with

[unique wagon]

I thought nikke top does that

[placid bloom]

yeah it does but that's not what you see on screen when you check the gen per bullet

it does it in the background

so I don't think he can scrape the values from there

he'd need a clean spreadsheet

probably?

any sort of array I guess

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

the values are all on nikke.gg so I guess you just make a bot to scrape them all

and save it to your own db

you'll still have to do some weapon categorizing though

who has procs, which procs hit cover and which procs only hit the target, etc

the spreadsheet exists somewhere for sure, just a matter of whether the owner wants to give it to you

otherwise you just remake it from scratch

[shell hazel]

alright thanks Kuwon, I'll see if I can persuade it to work 😄
or scrape nikke.gg if needed

[silk wing]

ah damn it's that time of the month where I'm gonna get kicked in the nuts in the champion arena XD

[shell hazel]

I think this might be wrong for trina? rest sort of checks out

gives trina 30.53 gen in 2RL

assuming trina hits 4 targets

14.736 for 1RL

29.472 for 2RL

[stone heart]

Isnt the cover also generate burst ?

[shell hazel]

trina hits p1

p1 + p2 + p1 cover + p2 cover

[placid bloom]

it does seem like they screwed up somewhere

I'm getting the same off manual calc too

[shell hazel]

I'm inclined to say top is right and it's as if trina counts her 4 hits + 6 additional per rocket for the anis gen

because that +1% odd she is getting is about 12 x 0.084

I've got it sort of tracking the rest the same even Xmaiden

might ping bas7ial about it tomorrow

[umbral crown]

Yes but

Where your cook

[shell hazel]

was busy on this

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

This last CA then a well deserved break

Now the real.thing is.... wil i make it out of groups/too 64 this time?

[stone heart]

Just pray to the Gods of PVP your match Will be hard counter team vs yours 🙂‍↕️

[severe tundra]

@tropic summit
T5 is pretty much leftover units

[stone heart]

IM out of luck nowadays. More wheels merge. Only winning by luck.

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

I don't have templates that really work for you as you're missing a lot of units

these are the pvp units you do have

if I had a working template I'd give it to you, else it needs more manual cook and it's super late here so I'll look at tomorrow for you if no one else can come up with anything meanwhile

for you I'd say best bet would be to make 2 reasonable teams and just cp pad 3rd with your pve units

[cobalt garden]

Thank you. I appreciate it!

[shell hazel]

maybe this for now - quantum on centi if you have one

a bit cope but might be ok. T3 is extremely cope lol

[cobalt garden]

no worries, im super new. At least this gives me an idea on what comp should look like. So far ive just been putting random units in random spots all willy nilly

[shell hazel]

additional extreme cope on your t2, don't build alice for pvp more especially

[shell hazel]

wishlist any of the greyed out ones here you can for pvp teams, no emilia or ada possible

[umbral crown]

your site looks interesting

[shell hazel]

i'm going to get rail to test it at some point maybe if I can find a way to do it

he'd be able to build out it's database of teams and counters better than I can

[junior mesa]

Best rolls for emeilia pvp?

[plucky delta]

I need help building an SP Arena Defense. right now i use this building but not doing well.
this my link https://www.blablalink.com/user?openid=MjkwODAtMTA4Nzk2OTk4ODgyMzI5MTIzMDE=
Thank A lot !

[cosmic sedge]

anyone mind making a rookie and spa team for me? I only have heavy investment in rapi, sw, and sbs https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtNTc5MDQyMDY1NTgzNDQzMjQzNw%3D%3D

[thin abyss]

Try this for sp, 3rd team is up to you use your stronger nikkes
And consider giving them basic OL equipment, it makes a huge difference in power

[heady peak]

is mint used in CA?

I have been busy and haven't payed attention to pvp at all

mint

not mana

[thin abyss]

Ahh

No, I don't think she will be used at all

[primal haven]

Is putting AnisS instead of Jackal a good idea?

[thin abyss]

If Jackal isn't being hit, then yes

[primal haven]

I’m using quick battle, so I don’t know

[livid wadi]

Thanks for the help

[hidden mortar]

@minor egret it begins. He hit me a minute ago, idk if he's planning on hitting you as well

[minor egret]

It's happening

[jagged mesa]

@haughty mortar leave me alone

@tropic summit ill pay you to stop helping sorter crack my (generic) defense

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[hidden mortar]

hm he's still c4, has he not hit you @minor egret ?

[minor egret]

Nothing yet

[hidden mortar]

he's learning

I'll give him 1 hr then attack before i go to sleep ig

[minor egret]

X to doubt

[placid bloom]

when you building Nero

[quick lake]

[jagged mesa]

bay or nero first

[placid bloom]

Nero better

Nero actually solve a lot of issues

swinging into Noah is actually so free

[jagged mesa]

are you just tricking me to bring down my SR potential this time

[placid bloom]

actually take no damage

[minor egret]

[jagged mesa]

i thought nero was old news now

[placid bloom]

it was before because Helm was the only dps on the team

now the team has Anis, so it actually does damage

[jagged mesa]

or what about soda/rosanna to be even more annoying

[placid bloom]

there is no good team for Soda anymore now that Scar is out of meta

[haughty mortar]

Isn't that a little sus and prolly illegal?

[placid bloom]

none of the other char nuke fast enough

[jagged mesa]

wait kuwon stop talking

[placid bloom]

they will unstun before your nuke land

[jagged mesa]

sorter is here to sus out my strats

[placid bloom]

what strat

if you build Nero he will not beat it

[jagged mesa]

go away sorter im brainstorming

[placid bloom]

whether he will beat your other 2 team is a different story

but Nero stronkest

[jagged mesa]

he beat my indom because i never checked the lineup and i mis-indommed

[placid bloom]

my SPA actually so doomed tbh

[minor egret]

Thing about Nero is you have to fully commit while Bay is easier to build

[placid bloom]

entire top 6 CP gap me now

[jagged mesa]

you got spenders in your bracket?

[placid bloom]

dude this one guy was 80 levels below me 3 months ago

[jagged mesa]

ive got a couple of skin buyers but they arent out-pushing me

[placid bloom]

now he is 20 levels ahead of me

he start spending out of nowhere

[jagged mesa]

oof

shuffle when

[placid bloom]

100 levels in 3 months is crazy

[stuck hearth]

for real. im stuck with 3 CN whales in top 4.

[placid bloom]

actually should be more than 100 levels cuz I'm leveling at the same time as him

[jagged mesa]

i actually was wanting to build nero at some point btw

[minor egret]

At what sync range?

[placid bloom]

I'm pretty sure I was 80 levels ahead of him when I was still 440

[jagged mesa]

i started advising her on both my accounts, at 26 bond atm

[placid bloom]

now I am 490 and he is 510

[haughty mortar]

You are sus

[jagged mesa]

no u

[placid bloom]

so he actually went up like 160 levels

150, my math bad

I wonder if he will keep going at this rate, maybe in 2 month he already pass rank 1

[haughty mortar]

Be honest, are you a whale?

[jagged mesa]

me?

[haughty mortar]

Yes

[jagged mesa]

i bought cindy skin pass and nayuta skin

does that count

[haughty mortar]

No

Skin passes don't count

[jagged mesa]

then no

[minor egret]

That's still F2P status

[haughty mortar]

OK just checking

[jagged mesa]

i just pushed early and somewhat consistently

[umbral crown]

ashium with wheel frame

[jagged mesa]

whats a wheel frame

[umbral crown]

the T.T. frame

Star Trail

[jagged mesa]

theres a frame there?

all i saw there was a milestone for crown dupe and 20 rocks

whales eating good

[minor egret]

He definitely spend a bit or have hoarded like crazy prior to that. This was my progression in that range but average player is probably ~15 levels per month?

[cosmic sedge]

thank u! yea i made the mistake of going all in making perfect investments. could only make those 3.

[placid bloom]

I am sad, I spent so many rock on Priv and I keep rolling ammo

[haughty mortar]

You bought that?!

[jagged mesa]

no

i wish i had the money for that, im down to 8 rocks

[umbral crown]

the last reward

[jagged mesa]

whale alert

[placid bloom]

at least my Helm and SWHA are okay cuz I rolled them a bit for snake

[umbral crown]

[jagged mesa]

i got a bit carried away and tried rolling my lower tier water units

i got nowhere though

my helm is still single 13% ele btw

[placid bloom]

tbh I should've just started rolling Elegg instead of trying to fix Priv

[stuck hearth]

I wanna know what he bought to even do that. most of the stuff in the store isnt worth the money value

[placid bloom]

uh should just be gem wipeout

like max gem wipeout

[hidden mortar]

@minor egret he hit you

[umbral crown]

imagine

[jagged mesa]

are you past snek yet

[hidden mortar]

ik he was waiting lol

[umbral crown]

[minor egret]

He failed twice

[placid bloom]

no, I got it down to like 1200 with 1:30 left and my Moran died to triple laser and I was like nah I don't feel like malding, I will just wait 2 weeks to hit 501 and kill it before clone phase

[hidden mortar]

good, all free hits + 100 gems down the drain

[placid bloom]

I am definitely in kill range but

[jagged mesa]

yeah im probably going to continue chilling and brute force with synchro too

[minor egret]

That she is

[placid bloom]

malding survival is too much work

[last vigil]

How to beat this 2

2nd team just rearrange?

[umbral crown]

the Rosy way ... it always work

[placid bloom]

even if I did mald

I'm not gonna catch up to the people ahead of me in my SPA group

and I am already ahead of the people below me

[jagged mesa]

actually, how long do you think until we catch up to HM and just outpace it entirely for the rest of time

[placid bloom]

so no point