pvp-arena

[noble python]

^

[obtuse tendon]

Appreciate it 🙏...when I first made the team I threw Rapi in there to slow it down some because indom ran out before other player. Saw that it surprisingly worked so just ran with it.

[oak hatch]

Absolute dead to that team most likely but Moran lib Noah could probably work against it

[oak hatch]

U could try this

[obtuse tendon]

I'll give it a shot. Thank you for the help.

[swift mango]

Their team is 3rl, yours 2rl

[tawny bronze]

Help me fight this deck plz

[mystic rain]

ok after testing on nayu anis bisc again in my rookie i think i know how to counter that team now

its quite simple actually

just use bisc

if anis cant lifesteal vs an immune target then there wont be hp share from nayu to abuse

then its just bisc invul keeping only anis alive and then u just win

cuz zero lifesteal

[silk wing]

Need some recommendations to counter in SP Arena.

Liter/Crown/Red Hood/Modernia/Naga
Dorothy/Blanc/SBS/Noir/Summer Anis

I'm already beating the first team

[mystic rain]

bisc + 2 defender on p1 and p5 vs any sg team

man bisc just completely counters like 99% of teams in pvp

from 1 skill

imagine if bisc didnt exist sbs would be SSS tier in pvp

way before vesti comes out

[silk wing]

Sadly my Biscuit is being used in team 1

[mystic rain]

then swap bisc to team 2 instead of team 1

team 1 isnt even a real pvp team thats just cp deficit ur fighting

if u bridge deficit then u can just run any proper pvp team that can actually burst vs that and win

this is assuming that u are fighting team 1 in deficit cuz no real pvp player would run crown modernia liter in pvp

[fallow coral]

Was thinking about switching up my team does anyone got any recommendations

[mystic rain]

unless high cp

[silk wing]

They are 104 levels above me in SP their team is 11,604,798 vs mine at 8,121,621 They are max core every unit haha

[mystic rain]

or wait

actually run nayu vs team 1

they have no aoe so no threat of anyone getting splash dmg and dying from deficit

any nayu 2 RL team

then run bisc vs sg

naga might kill ur p5 but uhhhh u can put neon p5

[silk wing]

I'll see what I can do there

[mystic rain]

she will be immune for 3 sec so u need a really fast 2Rl nayu to wipe

but if ur neon gets one shotted by naga cuz of deficit then gg

idek if its possible to oneshot neon without proccing her s1

[silk wing]

Eh it's fine just mostly bored with curious thoughts

[mystic rain]

well go test then

no risk full push

[silk wing]

Oh I know, I'm firmly in the 2nd slot of my SP arena so I'm not too worried

[mystic rain]

nayu lib rh snow/helm neon

check if rh buffed lib can tickle that team

or eveen anis instead of rh if that team is slower than 3 sec

[gentle pike]

Hello, I need a team comp for PvP both rookie and SP (i have nearly all nikke except, E.H, velvet and mint)

[mystic rain]

u can check pins we already have spa templates for multiple team comps

[restive heart]

here @gentle pike #pvp-arena message

you can find team comps templates here

[gentle pike]

thanks

[humble tiger]

Hmm...

[fleet acorn]

I still couldn't beat it

[raven plover]

yea thats what he meant

[heavy lodge]

what's the best rookie defense comp pls 😭

[raven plover]

now you go slower, 4rl

[marble saddle]

@raven plover is this much atk enough on testi?

[raven plover]

yes mine is lower

[marble saddle]

Yes but you ain't 60 sync lower than rank 1

[raven plover]

yea Im 100 sync lower just dont hit rank 1

[marble saddle]

That works for spa. Rookie ain't so forgiving

[covert lintel]

My rookie def is like this
Idk why no one can breach it

[umbral crown]

people not used to original cooks

[quick lake]

biscuit

[delicate cove]

is it ever worth prioing pvp cube over resil cube? idk how much it actualy benefits me

[raven plover]

your scarlet giga cracked?

[heavy lodge]

Wont this get blocked by noah

[raven plover]

yea his rookie people lazy to hit

[heavy lodge]

Need me a "dont even bother attacking me" SSS comp 😭

With Anis:star out im surprised theres no changes

[raven plover]

yea be 100 levels above everyone

[mystic rain]

literally just cp gap everyone

doesnt matter what team u put in no one will hit u if ur twice or thrice their cp

[tawny bronze]

Help me win against these please

[humble tiger]

Can we get this guy?

I want to get from 6→5 to save myself from the CH9 who likes to pull me down.

[livid rover]

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X · May 14, 2026, 9:47 PM

[glacial haven]

@tropic summit Pls Help. (Sorry to ping you Btw)

[mystic rain]

put ur jackal p1

run it again

vesti p2

[neon kelp]

help with these teams thanks! 🙏

[delicate cove]

hear me out, looooowkeetyy do u guys find it easier to stick to rank 2 as opposed to rank 1 i swear rank 1 ill wake up n im rank 4 but rank 2 i just dont get attacked

[neon kelp]

stay 1-2 for champion arena

[marble saddle]

Rail waking up to 300+ pings.

[covert lintel]

Wdym

[clever mauve]

Need help with making 3 arena teams plz🙏

[covert lintel]

It won't, cause it utilizes scar s2 not burst 3

While jackal blanc get immune, their team get dmged through the link to scar

[covert lintel]

More like they give up and focus on rookie quest
Till around last month they are still actively trying

[swift mango]

This team failed no? should fail yeah.

[raven plover]

yea so they lazy, need to whip their ass

[humble tiger]

I wonder if Scarlet got nuked.

Damn. The reply was too fast.

[heady peak]

Why am I losing the mirror match, but can win this?

[covert lintel]

Mirror match is affected by how much ammo and charge speed you have
So when mirroring blanc team, what you need is no cs and have a lot of ammo line

[heady peak]

No charge speed?

[crystal flicker]

Atp I'll never touch CA again, unless I whale my way 50 sync

[tulip quest]

luck too

[arctic jewel]

Poor soul

[tulip acorn]

Hello guys. Need some advice. I read the updated meta arena for vesti and it suggested

VestiTU Teams
Jackal VestiTU TTAnis Blanc Ada (2RL)
Jackal VestiTU Rumani Blanc ClipRL (2RL)
Jackal VestiTU Rumani Blanc Ada (2RL)

My question is why ada? Will i lose something important on that lineup if i change ada? Also which nikke are clipRL?

[swift mango]

@tropic summit 3000+ pings.

[swift mango]

ada buff vesti but the best line up of that archtype is

Jack+Vest(linked)+Ada(not linked)+Blanc+Laplace(higher hp than vesti, linked)

@quick lake ^

[marble saddle]

@swift mango blood? This much atk on testi good enough?

[swift mango]

that's almost max and you still asking?

[graceful grotto]

Bro flexing

[marble saddle]

Seeing how many people I can offend before rail berates me.

[gaunt pulsar]

Clip RL are those that that it says on the right

[tulip acorn]

Ok. Thanks

[quick lake]

[lavish lintel]

Would I be able to beat this

[mystic rain]

is that even in deficit

doesnt seem like it

blanc beats noah in general anyway so u should win that unless u misindom or ur vesti trash

[tropic summit]

what you running works as long as vestiTU has x2 ammo, else prefer

• jackal blanc swha ada helmt
  or
• blanc swha rh biscuit jackal

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it--k01KRNMS8NNJES6PDR2XXH3H4E6

T1: SG team is weak to any 2RL anti nuke with p1 and p5 resistant units or biscuit locked teams
e.g.

• noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani
• moran privT helmT swha nayuta
• anisTT cindy helmt trina neonOS

T2: that team is stacked so you can safely ignore it to hit the other 2 weaker teams
T3: any 2RL indom

e.g.:

• blanc swha rh biscuit jackal
• jackal blanc swha ada helmt
• jackal blanc vestiTU ada helmT

[tropic summit]

@fleet acorn

[tropic summit]

don't post them in this format, it's annoying to have to watch the vid and extract each team unit, post them in usual VS matchup format

also, is it just me or he copied your teams?
#pvp-arena message

[last vigil]

Can win any other team too?

[tropic summit]

what?

[last vigil]

those eg

[tropic summit]

can't really see shiet in this format, please use this format:
#pvp-arena message

no filters, no units selected, units ordered by strength

[tropic summit]

those are all example working teams for that counter ye

[clever mauve]

Lowkey i use mobile i dont think i can do that

[tropic summit]

blabla link set to public possible instead? cuz that works too

[static dew]

Sigh
Guess i will need help of pvp gods once again
My defense can't hold one annoying guy

My current defense
Should i update it, or just give up and ignore the dude?

[tropic summit]

teams are ok but he probably got used to the archetypes, change them up

refer for ideas here:
#pvp-arena message

[static dew]

Before i had those teams and he also defeated me no problems
So, i don't really know what else i can put against him

[lone rapids]

can try mine if u want

can replace cindy to neo neon

[static dew]

Will do, thx
Anything unexpected to surprise his daily win against me

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor show your mock on iron

[glad meteor]

UR?

[scarlet adder]

is this one fine?

[glad meteor]

Biscuit could cause inconsistency I guess

[scarlet adder]

those 2?

is this better vs bisc?

[glad meteor]

I don’t like hitting iron. Unless there’s giga pierce. The only iron dps is rapi , Raven is eh

[glad meteor]

Idk what has better chance tbh.

Curious if this works vs t1. But idk what you have left for t2

Rail san will cook

🧑‍🍳

[scarlet adder]

my maiden is ass

i have beaten something similar

[oak smelt]

Noah p1? That is so juicy for Siren to stun

[scarlet adder]

should i use this again?

[glad meteor]

Not if opponent is fast enough to ignore siren stun

[oak smelt]

[scarlet adder]

moran taunts ruins siren stuns here potentially

[oak smelt]

Nah, Noah will have taunt priority in p1 unless i remember it incorrectly

[scarlet adder]

@gaunt pulsar what is your final vote?

[gaunt pulsar]

frenzy on 1 2 3 5

[scarlet adder]

how do you see those?

[scarlet adder]

hmm i would not be so sure with 3 and 5

[ruby iris]

https://tenor.com/view/red-hood-snow-white-gif-18178186265415551072

[scarlet adder]

i risked and attacked and it worked uffffffffffffff(i used those 2 teams i send)

but it didn't went as i planned 😄

[tidal lichen]

[scarlet adder]

i should chill in top 10, top 6 fight is not for my nerves

7th guy just sits there and no one touches him

[tidal lichen]

touch him.

[scarlet adder]

i would but it would waste attack cause other guys would still attack me over him xd

i blocked them with big guys, including 7th guy and they just stood there xD

9th is even bigger

and i brought 5th to 8th

so made a wall they couldnt cross xD

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit i already used those, but was that good or did i risk too much here?

[upper grove]

I need to get the last prediction right, who wins? bottom is attacker

[gaunt pulsar]

feels like top, but i think cheering is closed

[upper grove]

oh right

[clever mauve]

@tropic summit is this good enough?

[oak hatch]

My blanc got one shotted RIP

[gaunt pulsar]

[ancient sun]

It only took Frenzy out of our CA for it to happen

[ionic rose]

GGEZ

[ancient sun]

[gaunt pulsar]

more wonder what happened in t5 but there no replays again...

[oak hatch]

My vesti and rosa killed them but nayuta burst in most cases can clean up by herself

[ancient sun]

Bruh

[oak hatch]

I might need baron type of investment and cores to win that matchup

[scarlet adder]

yeah he was the only one beating shit that usually beat absolute xD

[oak hatch]

He got it easy

[covert lintel]

@torn obsidian
NT

[lusty gull]

https://tenor.com/view/arcana-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-7703312039548986449

[ancient sun]

Yep, no one can compete with him for now

[ionic rose]

I won too ggs

[oak hatch]

Put me back, u know I was the only non commander 500 in the top 8

[ancient sun]

[lusty gull]

nice

[gaunt pulsar]

gj, you was the top here right? #pvp-arena message

[shell hazel]

gz! I got some free credits thanks 🙂

[eager brook]

It looks like at least that CA bracket is now team ordering coin flips sometimes. Once everyone gets around 3.3M+ CP

[ionic rose]

Im the bottom.... lol

4-1

[gaunt pulsar]

oh

[lusty gull]

usually, the replay was only unavailable one day right ?

[ancient sun]

Are you in Zero bracket? I recognize your name

[eager brook]

Yes I am

[torn obsidian]

[ancient sun]

I remembered you because you ran mmast with absolute

[ionic rose]

If he had higher cp he woulda won, his vesti couldnt nuke my rapunzel. His Indom Anis team couldnt kill my nero anis team for some reason, and his soda didnt stun my trina. Although we dont have replay i could tell from damage summary this is what happened

[eager brook]

That's what happens when your account is still too new to have any goodies

[ancient sun]

Hopefully I can join you in like 5-6 next CAs while I catch up in terms of CP with five other guys in my SpA

[gaunt pulsar]

ah, yeah t1 and t4* seemed like clear win for him but i guess his absolute is was expecting to get one more from other matches either t2 or t5 via stun

[oak hatch]

Zero doesn’t care about pve investment, so if u want to compete with him would need to go all in on pvp units

[ancient sun]

He really doesn’t. He didnt even push ch29 hard yet and he is 381 sync

[versed mesa]

I am curious about why someone would focus pvp in this game and not also push PvE? Because synchro level and cp from that is like the biggest boost

[oak hatch]

Yeah I noticed already when he left a blue doll on his nayuta

[ancient sun]

[ionic rose]

Yeah thats what i thought too, he literally just got cp diff'd. My scarlet team faced THREE soda scarlet teams in a roll and my team bursted slightly faster every time and non of the sodas stunned Trina

[cedar sorrel]

Shorter route to success that then ends up being detrimental in the long run from what I understand

[ancient sun]

If you buy enough core dust you can keep up ig

You only need to be on the same level of sync to test teams reliably anyway

[gaunt pulsar]

whales, they can buy sync anyway, so campaign pushing isn't a priority

[eager brook]

If there aren't a lot of whales to contest the top 4 spots in SpA that could make sense. I'm 2.5 times the second highest CP person in my SpA bracket so it's not even a contest, but it's a different story for equalized PvP.

[swift mango]

@everyone-

Please send me 5 pics of your bracket champ guy's teams. Thank you.

[ancient sun]

Personally for me pushing hard campaign feels as accomplishing as PvP. I can’t see myself giving it up just so I can do PvP only. Sounds like you are just giving up 80% of the game. But other people might feel different I dunno

[swift mango]

wait I can @ everyone?

[gaunt pulsar]

thats scary

[ancient sun]

@ancient sun

[gaunt pulsar]

but i guess it doesnt ping anyone

[placid bloom]

it doesn't ping so no point

[ancient sun]

[raven plover]

check t1

wtf fahren lib still 100% HP

[lusty gull]

@swift mango @tropic summit

https://tenor.com/view/quiry-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-16937680535286729168

[clever mauve]

Plz make me 3 teams for arena🙏🙏

[fair pivot]

@oak hatch you lost?

We should petition to be moved to the old CA bracket. Why am I in a bracket woth the average sync 120 levels above me

[oak hatch]

Yeah I should have won but it’s fine

Maybe with new CA update they will move

[swift mango]

Couldn't be helped. Bro's team is not really good he just won up to this point because of luck and my Blanc p2.
@mystic rain

Blanc wasn't able to burst ofc

But man, he was so close to win champ with his random ass team.

[onyx scaffold]

this is so shit @lusty gull

[lusty gull]

yes, i think usually it happens only the day of the update

it's a new feature maybe

[ionic rose]

Its time for your Deduction Skills!

[onyx scaffold]

update was yesterday

indie game studio

cannot be halped

[ionic rose]

[swift mango]

Could you send screenshots of his teams? Thanks

[onyx scaffold]

nothing special

[ionic rose]

You dont need mine right? They are basically Keripo's teams

[swift mango]

I don't collect "special teams"

[swift mango]

I need anyone that won's teams

[ionic rose]

Without Emilia

[swift mango]

[onyx scaffold]

u dont really

[swift mango]

I do museum collector

[lusty gull]

#pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

I kinda made it my duty to collect winners teams for the museum function. It's not that I look at them more than once.

[lusty gull]

[onyx scaffold]

i dont want to invest in quiry/mana

[swift mango]

Tbf I would love it if it had the CP and doll level too but oh well.

[lusty gull]

it can works with nihilister too and noir

[onyx scaffold]

but not rapunzel

?

[lusty gull]

no because position

[onyx scaffold]

just generic whale number 180k with everyone max doll

[lusty gull]

[swift mango]

There is a difference between max core 180k and max core 220k

[onyx scaffold]

that is more than whale

now that i notice

[lusty gull]

liberalio lb1

[onyx scaffold]

your scarlet is 193k

[oak hatch]

I was only able to make to finals this time but here’s the winner

[onyx scaffold]

that are my teams

and i stopped at group stage

[swift mango]

Do you black list LD or Section?

[onyx scaffold]

no. why do u ask

[swift mango]

So where is your teams?

[swift mango]

I wasn't able to forward your message to section discord

[oak hatch]

Are they really that lib team doesn’t even have a Noah

[swift mango]

Okay only that 1 specific message

[onyx scaffold]

no but im cooked quite early

[oak hatch]

yeah basically everyone have same lineup now cuz of cn

[swift mango]

I forgot, thanks.

[onyx scaffold]

i need my first CA win when will it happen

[oak hatch]

I sent u as well

[onyx scaffold]

likely never cuz i will still be beaten due to investment diff

and they are letting more ppl to join CA
it means the odd gets smaller

[oak hatch]

Yeah low vesti and nayuta cores will be rough to win

[onyx scaffold]

i also want to invest in SR

😭

[oak hatch]

Beta ending soon maybe some improvements to make it fairer and u could win then

[swift mango]

Are you winning this reason though? And send me the name too thanks.

[onyx scaffold]

nah, knowing nikke. it will always get worse

[swift mango]

@covert lintel
@quick lake
@rich quail
@lunar pawn
@hollow lagoon
@umbral crown
@wind kelp

Could you send me the champ guy of your bracket's teams? Thank you.

@glad meteor

@tropic summit

[umbral belfry]

nero anis growing

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

My Nero Anis lost to random as blanc team. It was never threatening

[swift mango]

Congrats

[swift mango]

Are you global or NA?

[hollow lagoon]

gae

[umbral belfry]

sounds like a you problem

bc there's videos of it beating the usual sw indom

[swift mango]

I see MO1, it should be global

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dorothy-fat-doritos-nikke-gif-3638811687278101957

[dense roost]

youre 100sync over me

[clever mauve]

Plz make me teams for arena🙏🙏🙏

[ionic rose]

try these, this is my opponent's teams, before fighting me he was always winning 4-1 and 5-0. you can refine team 3 a bit. I feel these teams are the current meta and have a high chance of winning

[ionic rose]

global

[austere marsh]

Good morning Anyone know if Mint is worth?

[umbral belfry]

not for pvp

[swift mango]

She is worth for Arena as much as Arcana. And they look alike.

[covert lintel]

Does nerose have high ED?
I think that's a bug, libby didn't get dmged at all

[umbral belfry]

[onyx scaffold]

is it not the same as mine except team 1? (mast and label)

[swift mango]

Could you send me teams of you bracket winner? Oh princess Hime.

[covert lintel]

are you in my group?

[fathom hatch]

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/point-gif-2450101530054484962

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-point-interview-yeah-you-gif-10909950

[ionic rose]

hows ur cp/base stats compared to everyone else? if ur more invested than most u can use the nero Tanis team. I legit cant believe that my nero team tanked indom TTanis

[onyx scaffold]

i dont have skill books for nero

[ionic rose]

but yeah, if u dont have investment advantage u have to just use meta and pray for soda rng

[swift mango]

Nero is bad anyway.

[ionic rose]

NERO IS NOT! KITTY LITERALLY NYA NYA'D HER WAY TO VICTORY!

[covert lintel]

@raven plover where did her missile go?

[ionic rose]

[umbral belfry]

if you're not using anis with nero don't bother building nero

[ionic rose]

yeah i feel anis makes the entire team different its insane

[swift mango]

This is next level bug. Just to make sure whale would win.

[umbral belfry]

Indeed

I'll always be a nero anis truther

[swift mango]

Thanks

[swift mango]

Thank you

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

Beta ending and we will have Beta 2.0

[lusty gull]

[covert lintel]

Oh you're T0N @dense roost

[umbral belfry]

nerose robbed

[dense roost]

No, SOLARIS

getting punched around

[covert lintel]

I always atked number 2

[swift mango]

Can you send FAH's CA team? Thank you.

[open viper]

Does Mint do anything in pvp?

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-hiding-embarrassed-bush-gif-6287489991893889017

[swift mango]

No

[open viper]

thought so, just double checking

[wind kelp]

Umm, i'll see if i remember when i log in 😄

[swift mango]

[covert lintel]

Not worth
They're buggy

[wind kelp]

Oh you just want the winners tems, not the usual setup?

[swift mango]

just send

[swift mango]

that's good as well

[lunar pawn]

do I get double cheer frame if I got all cheers right again

[dull valve]

Is there an updated guide for rookie and special arena? Assuming I have all nikkes

[lunar pawn]

right let me send my matchups

[swift mango]

no but you get the self celebration.

[swift mango]

Thank you

[lunar pawn]

keripo dropped early, the winner of this season beat him

[swift mango]

Could I trouble you again with the 5 teams of your bracket's champ thank you.

[swift mango]

bro got tired of Nikke

[hollow lagoon]

[torn obsidian]

when you spend enough money you unlock god mode

[swift mango]

Rookie: Anis+Blanc+Biscuit+flexflex

@thorny sequoia 5 pics max each comment

[thorny sequoia]

Ok ok

[thorny sequoia]

@swift mango same winner, this guy is a monster 👑👑👑

[swift mango]

Thank you.

[thorny sequoia]

Everyone in my division knows the routine to vote for him

I think he's only lost 2x or 3x in total

[wind kelp]

Beepidyboopidy, winners at your snoopidy

[swift mango]

thankie ty

[swift mango]

probably more win than Keripo then.

or maybe he started late so not more win

[glad meteor]

Level 837 acc

High enough

[swift mango]

I mean started winning CA late

[glad meteor]

I’m in same bracket as rail and rosy now

[thorny sequoia]

That's insane

Keripo arena must be stacked then

This guy I've only seen him lose to a guy with bunny Alice av a few times.

I've never seen him get lower than finals

[glad meteor]

So they’ll probably have sent

[glad meteor]

Which server

Are you in

[dull valve]

What is flexflex?

[swift mango]

Keripo doesn't get more than 20 win tier. So Weeptrap should have more lose than 2-3 if he isn't more win than Keripo. If he had only 2-3 not win then he should have the 25 times winner frame.

which is very insane

I don't think anyone in this game had that

[thorny sequoia]

I'll keep you posted

I enjoy PvP but I'm not a whale so I can't keep up in my division at all

Everyone ahead of me is a spender. I started during the CSM event

[swift mango]

any burst 3.

But the most used right now is

Anis+Blanc+Helm+Biscuit+SW

[lone sequoia]

3month player?

[swift mango]

Thank you

[thorny sequoia]

Yes I started since CSM, so I'm assuming everyone in my division started at the same time. I was told that's how groups are arranged

[swift mango]

he is in NA #2 bracket. Just one below your and Keripo

[lone sequoia]

my ex alt was in that bracket, what is your ign?

[swift mango]

He couldn't get top 4

[swift mango]

CA may expand to top 10 so you would have a chance soon

[thorny sequoia]

[dull valve]

Heavy arms or just base SW? Also does defense matter or just set the same?

[swift mango]

SWHA

[thorny sequoia]

Always HA

[lone sequoia]

same for my pvp alt, whale bracket (easier than my main) and they started gem wars after the sp top4 notice... first week looked like more than 20k gems wasted with jumps from some people

[swift mango]

Doesn't matter

it's for defense even

[lone sequoia]

i think they will merge more brackets to the same and let c10 to play in CA, the problem is that you will have to fight against 3 brackets at the same time (way more people)

so... more sp spots for CA, but less people playing CA (?)

[swift mango]

nah

[dull valve]

What are the best 3 teams for Special Arena?

[swift mango]

doesn't work that way. It would change nothing and make SpA worst for whale and f2p alike. Now guys in SEA must play peep who started 1-2 months before the, in SpA. Even whale would complain.

[lone sequoia]

dorodash, keep the good work, if you change union tell me because we will need more players in my union (casual top50)

[lone sequoia]

it will give them more money, they want to make you waste more gems on hits, that is why we got the reshuffle

[swift mango]

Gem hitting is minimal. They wants people to spend on banner to max core and got shafted. They don't care about the little gem they spend in arena. Arena exist for whale to buy core dust not gem.

[lone sequoia]

the first reshuffle was to keep some brackets alive and reduce the amount of gems some people got around that time, after the reshuffle i think the gems got reduced to less than half, then they changed the rewards to 1~3, 4~6, 7~10

[thorny sequoia]

I'll let you know
I like my crew and they help but I'll be in touch if needed
DM me if needed

I'm currently top 3 damage dealer in Dorodash for Union raid, my 3 hits last time was between 12-14 billion non wind, before TTAnis+ NNeon

[swift mango]

The reward was increased not decreased, I google it since I started the game.

[lone sequoia]

read it again, people got less gems because they had to fight for the ranks, 1st reshuffle less gems across all the servers, that is why they increased the amount

[swift mango]

yeah, people complain about Arena too pay to win and little reward so they increased it and made more reward for lower rank

but nothing comparing to china

[umbral crown]

My champ is the same as raik, kara, xhare, ...

[lone sequoia]

you are their champ?

[swift mango]

so okay. I think Xhare had a different champ from rail last season

[umbral crown]

I wish, i have been dying in league/top 64

[umbral crown]

We were in the same bracket, now i think he is still with us but we shall see

[swift mango]

maybe start to make better team and do some ritual .

[lone sequoia]

the process is not working, time to change style (?)

[umbral crown]

My teams aee god tier but i happened to find the counters of them

No bad teams but things happen, SU moved me to the losing side

[lone sequoia]

viper

[swift mango]

maybe try this guy team. He doesn't have emi though. But use Ein. His team is pretty shit now I look at it. so nvm. Just use his team order

[lone sequoia]

i would probably move rosanna for trio and keep that thing

add soline to noah comp and probably change ein, but ein is ein

[umbral crown]

Yeah , gonna do that next season

[lusty gull]

https://tenor.com/view/quiry-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-16937680535286729168

[umbral crown]

Mast is ready since S9

[umbral crown]

Quiry believer

[lone sequoia]

no biscuit?

[umbral crown]

I burst with quiry first cuz i wanna avoid those miharas

[umbral crown]

Yeah, no biscuit this season

[lusty gull]

you should change position

[umbral crown]

Nero team wins against anyrhing that has no blanc

[lone sequoia]

i really like speed scar, not sure if it work in the current meta

[swift mango]

@umbral crown maybe take reference on how to put team order from this guy.

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Gonna do t, trust

Positions are killing every season

[lusty gull]

i mean of quiry team

[lone sequoia]

a rng wizard?

[lusty gull]

#pvp-arena message @umbral crown

[umbral crown]

For helm to burst

[swift mango]

just be a whale and the game would give you better match up. Trust

[lusty gull]

yes so you win versus blanc

[umbral crown]

Waos, gonna ajust them next season

[lusty gull]

[umbral crown]

Its part of the process

[swift mango]

I mean, you can't burst a second time so Quiry is pointless

[umbral crown]

I can

If moran dies

[lusty gull]

you underestimate her s1 and s2

[gaunt cypress]

how do i counter this team ?

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Well, it could help but Idk if worth

[lone sequoia]

you can kill noah

[covert lintel]

Besti absolute

[swift mango]

same team but use Blanc instead I guess

[covert lintel]

Or you can siren that too

[lone sequoia]

right, i got emma 2 weeks ago, i should give her some lvls

[covert lintel]

Oh wait, siren gonna be taunted by moran

[ancient sun]

my CA champion's teams

[swift mango]

Moran dies and quiry Alive is hard.

[swift mango]

name bubble?

[ancient sun]

Zero

[gaunt cypress]

bruh .mkv, forgot to change it to mp4

[oak smelt]

Noah no taunt priority in p2?

[swift mango]

can't you send 1 screenshot

[ancient sun]

not rn, can't log in

[oak hatch]

It’s here

[umbral crown]

If against helm nuke, she gonna target moran so you just need to stall for 2nd burst

[swift mango]

ty

[raven plover]

yea something doesnt feel right

[swift mango]

thnks

[umbral crown]

I could have won this if helm was the one bursting

[raven plover]

yea I put my bet on you thinking you gonna win, wtf fahren unlock godhood

[ancient sun]

do you need opp's teams?

[swift mango]

Well, it's good enough.

send if you could

[ancient sun]

in 10 mins then

[torn obsidian]

wow thanks for believing in me

we go next

[raven plover]

[swift mango]

log in? Then maybe send me 10 screenshots of their teams would be better.

[ancient sun]

yeah that's what I wanted

[oak hatch]

I’m surprised it wasn’t at least 4-1 when all the older players left the bracket

[ancient sun]

If his opp was more invested I think he could take it. I wanted to see how t4 went but I couldn't because of replay issue

[oak hatch]

Smh when will they fix this

[covert lintel]

No, siren will be taunted when moran burst and that is near her 50th shot
Even she goes back to noah targeting after noah burst, moran ate her stun already

[fathom hatch]

[covert lintel]

But you can try, i might be wrong

[oak smelt]

Not a taunt priority expert, still learning

[covert lintel]

just try and fail to learn

[umbral crown]

@swift mango gonna send you the teams later in like 5h, my game on phone is not updated yet

[silent torrent]

Place your bet guys

[versed mesa]

I bet on the other one

[lunar pawn]

winning twice in a row for the 1st time, grats

[hexed zephyr]

I used to use the spreadsheet and have barely used Nikke deck but with the new units I was wanting to change my pvp team.

Can someone give a quick tldr on what to look for on the site? Like for this team, is that box around 2rl the main thing/means this team is always 2rl?

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-superman-batman-v-superman-do-you-bleed-bleed-gif-19089630

[ancient sun]

@swift mango

[lusty gull]

https://nikke-deck.com/en/articles/nikke-deck

[tropic summit]

that team is always 2RL, assuming T1 is linked you may get enough feed to be between 1.5RL and 1.7RL speeds

if you wanna know in detail threshold for each burst you can use https://nikke.top/

[lusty gull]

[hexed zephyr]

By linked you mean gear with CS or what?

I got to the burst gen feed in the guide. It also says linked. I don’t feel ik what that means still

[tropic summit]

in following video SBS and helmT are jackal-linked, that's what we refer with linked units
linked units share damage with each others and link can be furthermore used to ensure lowest HP on blanc cast very easily, as lowest starting HP unit in link will likely get picked by indom, assuming you meet the right conditions

linked units additionally generate extra burst gen whenever hit due to jackal kit, in particular based on how many bullets they get hit from

A MG will have high feed given
A RL/SR will have the lowest feed given

[tropic summit]

aye

[halcyon ermine]

I looked at that prydwen website and just threw some shit together. Would these be ok for pvp?

[tropic summit]

considering your lack of noah, anchorIM archetypes are the next thing to survive nukes, as HP stack is a form of anti nuke, so the choice itself isn't bad, but rather you don't rly have other options

as for the indom team, biscuit p3 is very likely to be misindomed if you wanted swha or helmT instead indommed, so you may reconsider placement next time

[scarlet adder]

i changed placement slightly

[abstract badge]

Going to need some help getting teams against this defense. Also will need a new defense team as current one got defeated

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• vestiTU blanc solineFT rumani alice
• moran privT drake anchorIM anisOG
• neonOS anisTT mmast siren helm

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/squidward-daring-today-1--k01KRPA79W8DBPSYSY0CGJJDQJP

[abstract badge]

my current def team:
moran noah biscuit priv swha
nayuta anis cindy helm noir
jackal vesti blanc x.maiden drake

[glad meteor]

Fookin bootymen

[tropic summit]

run these you're on the left

anis in T1 is assumed anisTT

[hexed zephyr]

Ah the dmg share is link kk. I used to use swha (sbs before her)/blanc/centi/rh (as b1 and high cp)/jackel. I feel many times rh ended up getting indom instead sw though so I decided to change to that pic I posted here to start. Feels more reliable for me due to the tanking/sustain (and higher power) 🤷‍♂️

[tropic summit]

you need to check HP on RH and SWHA, SWHA needs to have lower HP than RH upon entering battle. You can enforce higher HP via vigor, unless there's huge core difference (and OL) between the 2 units

[abstract badge]

<@&946725432554836008> <@&1450788368702111765> compromised account

[real ocean]

?

did i miss it

[abstract badge]

yeah, someone took it out right as i sent it

[real ocean]

coolio

[hexed zephyr]

I might switch to a blanc comp later but ya rh was 81k less hp. Both res cube, rh 0 dupe, sw 3 dupe. I thought the hp that mattered was when Blanc burst not starting?

[abstract badge]

the 2nd team blank? or meant to lose?

[hexed zephyr]

U need to just win 2/3 so that’s what to focus on for pvp. Last team I just throw high power units normally.

[tropic summit]

it's on blanc B2 cast timing, but your link will share HP thus if your unit at the beginning is the lowest HP in the link (so among other linked and jackal) you will ensure she stays lowest HP

[tropic summit]

T1 (left, you) against enemy team on the right
T3 (left, you) against enemy team on the right

enemy team on T2 on the right is skippable, as it's the strongest of the 3

[swift mango]

If your bracket had M01 then someone already sent it.

[swift mango]

@umbral crown you are same bracket as raid and Xhare now. So won't need to send.

Thank you rail.

[swift mango]

Thank you

[unique wagon]

I keep missing my cheers :(

Do we have predictor tool

[oak hatch]

Ye it’s this channel

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-spin-the-wheel-make-a-choice-random-selection-zerkaa-gif-13856034

[tropic summit]

you welcome, as payment i'll just rail your sister

[unique wagon]

Someone has to make predictor tool

It's gonna be so valuable

[tropic summit]

gonna be so valuable until it's wrong cuz CA has plenty of RNG factors

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/seele-vollerei-veliona-seele-red-seele-honkai-impact-3rd-hi3-gif-1013358669517477327

[unique wagon]

u want me to make one?

[unique wagon]

bro that T2 folkwang team crossed my mind for a bit

[swift mango]

Whoops I made wrong reply

[swift mango]

I mean, bro made it to champs with folkwang lol. On the same tier as I made it to champ with Ludmilla.

[unique wagon]

folkwang is good there though

the weakness of Biscu team is no lifesteal to survive after immune ends

[swift mango]

Okay my bad, she does.

Man, I need to remember their skill better.

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[hexed zephyr]

Hm ya alright. Guess thats why many times it wasn’t working.

Also, my Noah and biscuit are very low power (biscuit I got very late so never had much time to build them since was always using materials on pve units)

So I’m thinking of running these for now. That last team I changed since my high power team was only a bit stronger than this rl3 team so decided to do that instead. Thoughts?

[glad meteor]

Anyone have recording of t2

[tropic summit]

T1 split moran and nayuta, also anisTT and jackal should never be in the same team
T2 very vulnerable and weak team, scrap it
T3 don't put unprotected blanc in p2, don't put main B3 in p1, don't run indom without jackal

[swift mango]

You don't need record to know. Siren stun Anis, Anis doesn't burst. Then Libby wipe.

It doesn't matter if Anis get biscuit'ed

Or not

[glad meteor]

There is no siren

[gaunt pulsar]

what matches he won in the end 1 2 4?

[swift mango]

Ah you mean team 2 not team 1. Then it's just common Anis beating Noah team.

[glad meteor]

Anis higher atk than sanis right

I think folkwang gives heal 2 highest attack

[tropic summit]

he won the indom duel, cuz he had worst CS%

rest we were spot on

it was a close win

[swift mango]

Yes ofc, 40% self buff.

[glad meteor]

[gaunt pulsar]

ic, well expected him to win indom duel, right one looked like crazier person with invest on his units

[tropic summit]

@gaunt pulsar

the absolute and noah lib matches went as expected

their teams were essentially the exact same copy

(in different orders)

i guess the poor lad who lost because he had better invest gonna feel rather bad about it

funny CA things

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

@gaunt pulsar

[gritty ridge]

Cs dif

[glad meteor]

PvP too complicated now, vesti anis swha broken

[gritty ridge]

In a bad way

The one time where less is better lmao

Its why im hesitant to roll cs on jackal

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

daily reminder to not bother investing, because it won't matter if RNG wants you to lose

[glad meteor]

Oh yea

[gritty ridge]

Btw rail

[glad meteor]

I still need to do dailies

[gritty ridge]

My priv team is now severely sub 2rl

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

I hope people dont like bursting

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

real booly

[glad meteor]

Anis + priv is nice

[gritty ridge]

Yeap

[tropic summit]

ye both at the same time are a good time

[versed mesa]

🧱

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

Team cant get faster tho, cuz privaty became the speed limiter

Otherwise id have to 21% bay and bisc

I saw that

[tropic summit]

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit

i know moran can get indom but yeahh i don't think can do anything else here

[tropic summit]

the things you gotta do when you don't have noah and gotta use biscuit on an anti nuke team

looks fine, it makes sense, give it a shot

oh

vigor on vestiTU btw @scarlet adder

[scarlet adder]

hmm

ahh yeah

[tropic summit]

check those HP as swha is on MLB and vesti is no duperoni

[swift mango]

I'm done with the CA begging early. Thank you. @Everyone-

[scarlet adder]

resil or vigor on moran?

[tropic summit]

jackal quantum
swha tempering
moran tempering
blanc vigor
vestiTU vigor

anis quantum
centi quantum
biscuit vigor
cindy tempering
helmt tempering

[scarlet adder]

i don't have that hight level but i will try most of those

[tropic summit]

what matters is the vigor on vestiTU, quantums and tempering on swha

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimpo-shrimpo-brick-golden-brick-dandy's-world-dandys-world-gif-4747784310820198306

[tropic summit]

rest are mostly flexable with stat sticks

[swift mango]

[glad meteor]

[hexed zephyr]

How about this? Or what switches within these units would you recommend? Or units not seen here I guess too since I got almost everything other than like Emilia and TBay.

Don’t know what else I can do for a scarlet/trina team if you’re saying scrap it. I feel I need that as a base for my second team atm, no?

[glad meteor]

Wot i miss @tropic summit

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit thanks . Part of me wanted to lose so i can give up on this top 6 battle i go through. Any day i feel too many guys will reach me and i will end up in diamond and there it will end 😄 My defense is paper thin ehhhh

[tropic summit]

oh i wouldn't know, it wasn't me

[glad meteor]

[small gale]

is mint pvp meta?

[livid rover]

https://www.blablalink.com/post/detail?post_uuid=6060708607632581553

[livid rover]

Raid

[tropic summit]

1. you don't need jackal with moran, they serve different archetypes, there are a few teams with moran linked but those are for CA, in SP arena you can't afford doing that without making another team weaker
2. glass cannon is really easy to deal with in SP, scrap it
3. this is a mess, too slow, abusable, glass cannon

refer to these for ideas: #pvp-arena message

[small gale]

if I were to have another B1, is Star Anis best used off Burst? Does she still offer any sort of attack boost?

[hexed zephyr]

I’ve seen those before but ofc they got biscuit Noah and many with bay/rumani too I guess. I mainly just want like mid to high diamond. Is there no way for that other than with those?

Which to prio first? Maybe Noah for Moran Noah sw team? Or since I’m a bit farther with biscuit, do her?

[lone sequoia]

depends on the comp, she buff during full burst but you lose dmg from her own burst if dps role, you can still use her off-chain if you need her 6%burst gen buff to get higher speed compared to the enemy team, but if you use her re-enter in case you go double b1, you will be slower; you can use a different b1 before herr to avoid the re-enter if you need the burt gen and she will buff during full burst

dps role is better than sustain role, some units will be fine with the re-enter, off chain only if you need the extra burst gen

[tropic summit]

working archetypes are really simple

2RL glass cannon with gimmics
2RL (or 2RL via feed) indom
2RL moran noah biscuit

the most standard you can run with units mostly everyone have

nayuta anisTT helmT flex flex
jackal indom flex blanc link
moran noah biscuit swha flex

[fleet acorn]

[tropic summit]

@swift mango

[fleet acorn]

neon always survives with low hp

[tropic summit]

wait for blood to come up with something else, iirc you ran pretty much most combos at this point

[oak hatch]

@fleet acorn might as well try this team while ur at it

[small gale]

the intervals between burst stages are constant right? so I can expect B2 to be B3 speed if I use double B1 with Star Anis?

[obsidian prairie]

Using these teams because they are quite built and I saw other people use them, are there obvious improvements I can make by making swaps in between the teams or by changing units?

[fleet acorn]

liberalio dies before i can b3

[tropic summit]

T1 change order to moran noah biscuit swha helmt
T2 i'd move cindy in p3 and vestiTU in p4, no point in running a glass cannon with vestiTU as main B3 when you got a cindy or privT B3
T3 very weak B3 choice, reconsider

[obsidian prairie]

Who's an upgrade for B3?

[tropic summit]

• moran noah biscuit swha laplaceT
• jackal nayuta cindy vestiTU lib
• anchorIM anisTT crown privT helmT

[oak hatch]

Rip idk then, I won in ca against similar team using this setup

U could try lib p4 and use some more invested stuff instead of rumani

[glad meteor]

Enemy look slower here

Mihara indom

[tropic summit]

insane how anisTT is able to carry this team to 2RL

[obsidian prairie]

Might be bricked though, the "easiest" fights I can find have 180% my CP lol

[fleet acorn]

that team doesnt have a c1 invested vesti pressuring your team

[tropic summit]

a mag RL, 1 MG and 1 AR and still 2RL

[small gale]

following up please

[tropic summit]

2RL is on B3 when 2.5RL is on B1
2RL re-enter is on B3 when 2.5RL is on B2
2RL re-enter is on B2 when 2RL without re-enter is on B3
...
etc

[obsidian prairie]

Why is Moran better in slot 1 over Noah? Doesn't moran get shot first that way and I lose my only B1?

[oak hatch]

Yeah but nothing is working so

[small gale]

I'm lost sorry. What's 2RL, 2.5RL?

[fleet acorn]

getting somewhere, i just need to be a little more slower, loosing indom first

[small gale]

I do get RL rocket launcher but I don't understand the assignments

[tropic summit]

the only times when moran dies pre burst is against deficit penalty or by rare chance against absolute, there's generally nothing that can kill her in p1 pre burst

p1 noah is siren stunnable, which means bye bye anti nuke

[fleet acorn]

when having all your rl and sr at +16% doesnt help

but nerfs you

[obsidian prairie]

Every fight I have is massive deficit, I have ~200000 CP and the lowest team I can fight against has 290000

[tropic summit]

https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

[fleet acorn]

is jackal burst gen slower than helm?

[tropic summit]

@small gale

[small gale]

could you please explain "2RL is on B3 when 2.5RL is on B1"

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

We tried this?

[tropic summit]

stall with lifesteal and biscuito?

[glad meteor]

I think they misindom to p5 or biscuit

With t2

[tropic summit]

and then he dies to anisTT on blanc buff

[obsidian prairie]

TIL that arena has a separate cube slot

[tropic summit]

where's your iron mock btw @glad meteor

[glad meteor]

Hmm. Anis outheal anis dmg or nah?

[tropic summit]

i think he lost with something similar but i don't fully remember

if you're confident he should give it a shot tho

[glad meteor]

You want my highest ur iron. Or a viable iron team that isnt bricking other ele

[tropic summit]

nah just ur highest iron

[glad meteor]

I’m not confident in anything

[glad meteor]

i see

[tropic summit]

liar, you're confident in your skills to become an isabel pillow

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[oak hatch]

How about Moran bay biscuit swha comp?

[tropic summit]

don't think he tried yet

[glad meteor]

Anuss too op

[oak hatch]

Guess they could try it with label or helm

[tropic summit]

probably gets shredded after biscuit stack runs out but worth a try

[oak hatch]

Idk my Moran stalled and won anis in 1v1

[glad meteor]

Possible

[small gale]

I think I get it. You were referring to opponent vs you

[glad meteor]

Shield is big

Dk if rh/milkt better

[tropic summit]

damn, you win

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

You testing me

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/died-of-cringe-anime--k01KRPGE9CPZ6HKJHHVW76TPKRK

can't beat pve go0ns @glad meteor

[shell hazel]

pfft rookie numbers

https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-anya-spy-x-family-gif-17200077238442027522

[hexed zephyr]

Looking at that and the pin again I came up with this. In first team it was rh but I did rapi since she’s one of my highest power and it still shows 2rl. Plus for rh on team 3. Is that fine?

Team 2 I did xM instead ada to get to 2RL

Last team is just nay/rh/flexs that are built/got me to 3rl.

I’ll have to build Noah first for some higher power but I think this strat could work?

[glad meteor]

I need to start pumping

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/may-the-pump-be-with-you-gif-20317691

[glad meteor]

Anis b1 too op. Legit nothing else even worth trying

[tropic summit]

T1 where's biscuit?
T2 who's linked?
T3 this is really bad, scrap it

[glad meteor]

Close. Raven too op though. So stay down

https://tenor.com/view/lilocafofacute-gif-17852857316930395642

[tropic summit]

wow what a booly even with RH slotted in

superior pve skills

[glad meteor]

I’m just higher sync

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

Rail can we throw a pokeball to catch a Kara?

[clever mauve]

Whats anisOG? The 4 star one?

[glad meteor]

I’m 621

[hexed zephyr]

Again not built/very low power. Hence why I put rapi. And I’m thinking of working on Noah. There was a team in pin that was this but rh instead rapi. Which I could do but much less power (my rh is like 30k less power than my rapi)

Vesti and anis are highest 2 atk there for me.

T3 I really don’t have anything else I can do I feel lol. These are the only decent things left over with decent power.

[tropic summit]

i've already did, it didn't work, we need a masterball

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/pokémon-pokemon-poke-ball-pokeball-kitten-gif-988702508499115932

[tropic summit]

keep nayuta 2RL, a 3RL nayuta is pointless

[shell hazel]

shit where do we get that?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/master-ball-pokemon-1--k01KRPH63ZSS65037ZXQ7ETDEVM

[tropic summit]

the SR anis is anisOG (original anis)
the anisTT is the newest anis (the SSR one, but not in a swimsuit but in idol costume)

[shell hazel]

discord broken again

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

i'm gonna try fire for the luls just to see what i'm missing out

[shell hazel]

fire is.. for want of a better term. cooked.

my fire units even with this just don't really work

[clever mauve]

I didnt know anis sr was still that good for my team

[shell hazel]

the best anis is the one which doesn't have any outfit

or maybe it's the one we can hold || hands || with

[cedar sorrel]

She gives a lot of burst gen which is useful in PVP. Nowadays a lot of units do this tho so when u got a good roster u usually dont use SR anis cuz of the CP drop

[clever mauve]

This was my previous setup@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor @shell hazel

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

the infinite ammo alice was fun tho

[glad meteor]

Alice boo

[tropic summit]

pew pew pew eternally

[shell hazel]

that's actually.. not bad lmao

[tropic summit]

clipRL tier burst gen, good early on, will be benched later on

[shell hazel]

given how 🧱 alice is

[glad meteor]

I’ll show you real dmg

[tropic summit]

well she's on ultra buffs

[tropic summit]

oh lawl he's coming

probably some xdiesel brid shiet

[shell hazel]

alice must be in the team Kara

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

if you can 15B fire without totally compromising the other 2 comps I'd say worth considering 🙂

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel damn my fingers are tired from that tho

[shell hazel]

you only gotta do it once more

[tropic summit]

nah wind and water are more chill and stable 16b+ i won't do that

[shell hazel]

then I'll buy you a nice pizza

[hexed zephyr]

Btw, this was confusing me a bit too. Why is it almost 2 RL but shows 2.5 when the pin says 2 RL? Is it based on like charge speed lines on gear or what?

[tropic summit]

96% to 2RL is essentially 2RL in jackal teams, cuz you get around 4% from any team regardless of weapon class, it's the minimun feed

also you didn't select CS% so it's assuming 0CS% vestiTU, 5%CS+ vestiTU will be natural 2RL

calculator also doesn't account for 6% anisTT burst gen increase team wide, so regardless, you're natural 2RL

@shell hazel i want this

[glad meteor]

7b 6b 6b

[shell hazel]

I.....want this too

[glad meteor]

Your rapi out dmgd mine

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/knowing-better-kb-1--k01KRPHYH8T9M50QY8VD1F8XYQS

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/tanya-smile-evil-anime-saga-of-tanya-the-evil-gif-22994710

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-stop-him-brian-hull-how-can-we-put-a-stop-to-him-how-can-we-stop-him-how-will-we-stop-him-gif-7303810082392251465

[hexed zephyr]

My vesti actually doesn’t have cs rn. Mainly ele atk and some ammo (decent built not full built). I do have 2 cs lines on jackel. Will that make it up or no? On site it seems not to. But you said with jackal in general it will be fine ya?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gondor-aragon--k01KRPJ0TB53QB0AN6JJDHWJYC8

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/rohan-will-answer-gif-26431288

[lone sequoia]

what sync are you?

[shell hazel]

579

baby sync

senpai Kara will teach me the way

[lone sequoia]

pve or pvp? and what is your UR average?

[shell hazel]

[cedar sorrel]

No u need CS on tvesti specifically to jump RL with just 1 unit. There isnt many others that can do this just on their own

[shell hazel]

51.1B

next time I'll beat Kara

[hexed zephyr]

Kk. And it’s gotta be 5% or higher?

[shell hazel]

when I get a higher score than Kara they'll join our union

[tropic summit]

the CS% is needed on vestiTU to hit enough rockets to kick your team in 2RL within 2RL timeframe

[shell hazel]

it's like Highlander if you've ever seen it

[lone sequoia]

my fire team suck, i'm doing around 16~18b at 665 xd

[cedar sorrel]

Yup. It being higher is even better in more sweaty situations but 5%CS allows u to go 2rl on teams u normally couldnt

[shell hazel]

yep mine was 13.5 but it's mid fire units 😄

[tropic summit]

baby sync he says, get a load of this guy @glad meteor

[cedar sorrel]

Especially when u consider jackal feed which gives around 6% feed. But u can check how much feed ur getting at which RL timing in the calc too. Bottom stat

If they have weps that hit often u can get 10% feed and stuff like that so it adds up

[shell hazel]

Kara senpai

https://tenor.com/view/anime-crying-gif-26116135

[ionic rose]

I actually havent seen Kara before i need an intro

[shell hazel]

Kara is literally the MVP

Rail

Kara

Kuwon

MVP list

[glad meteor]

@rich quail 🐳 this guy knows the way

[ionic rose]

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

[ionic rose]

Me too im only 641 preschool sync

[rich quail]

I AM NOT A WHEL

[ionic rose]

Nobdy believes u

Show me ur wallet

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/wallet-gif-25866507

[lone sequoia]

run or people will dm you

[lone sequoia]

what is your fire team this UR?

[glad meteor]

Xbrid rapi helm diesel mihara

Prob

[quick lake]

is the helm burst better than Rapi burst?

[glad meteor]

If using rapi b3. Want anuss or siren. Which i can’t use

[versed mesa]

The C4 who attacked me the past 3 days in a row, not only did he not do it this time, he even missed dailies for yesterday 🧱

[placid bloom]

maybe his house caught on fire

[shell hazel]

maybe he given up

[hexed zephyr]

Had to go do dailies before reset but ya for team 1 is rapi good enough for stat padding since it still shows rl2? Or should I put rh like pin was saying?

[queen smelt]

would this work

[versed mesa]

Or he actually has a life outside of the game unlike me

[lone sequoia]

probably around 10% less dmg compared to rapi b3

[shell hazel]

not possible desu!

[arctic jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/war-dogs-war-dogs-movie-stressed-facepalm-gif-5727928

[tropic summit]

yes you can pad it with RRH

[hexed zephyr]

Kk. Thanks for all the help

[queen smelt]

can someone explain the how the top 3rd team work, it destroyed my team so fast(each opp team cp is higher than mine ~300k ~12%)

[upper grove]

rail, do you want to build takina? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fym7kFPvLpA

[neon cedar]

@tropic summit can you give me some tips to improve my teams again 🥹

[upper grove]

1654k cp

[oak hatch]

It can b2 faster than most teams, super buff nayuta to try to kill and cleans up with helm b3. Nayuta has ele advantage against 2 of ur 3 jackal links so they’ll kill u pretty fast

[tropic summit]

depends what she needs

if only skills, SR5 and basic ol i could afford

although that max core RRH is concerning

[upper grove]

that guy had C7 rapi 101/36, takina was base copy 8 10 10 but SR15 and 92/32

[queen smelt]

oh that make sense, it was so fast that i didnt see anything (literally one shot)

[tropic summit]

92 ele 32 atk?

that's expensive af

[placid bloom]

well don't need 12 line so maybe not that expensive

[arctic jewel]

huuuuuuuh?!

[tropic summit]

oi...

[arctic jewel]

did I make a mistake for MLBing Chisato instead of Takina?

[lone sequoia]

probably, you always go for 1 copy

[arctic jewel]

xD

[tropic summit]

@upper grove are those ele and atk% mandatory for clear you think?

[lone sequoia]

extra cp boost the dmg a lot

[arctic jewel]

wasn't able to pull any copies, had to use mileage for 1 copy

[upper grove]

well that clear had 20s left to spare and takina died so less should be doable

as long as you can kill one noah shield on each phase

[abstract badge]

Btw can this be also use for defence? Cause my current defense team getting ko easily

[upper grove]

being able to kill a shield cuts down the dmg requirement by quite a lot

[abstract badge]

Not sure if it's due to weak tempering cube

[upper grove]

it's very niche investment for low cp clears only OR you are a big iron enjoyer

[tropic summit]

hmm i could probably 40% ele and 20% atk perhaps with little rock usage

[tropic summit]

no, for defense pick 3 of these
#pvp-arena message

[strange linden]

@tropic summit AnisTT is really annoying damn, tried Moran/Nero and she sniped all of my dps
what do you do against
moran/noah/anisTT/SWHA/Laplace
Jackal/Scarlet/Blanc/Trina/Helmt
Nayuta/cinderella/rosanna/biscuit/centi

he knew I used jackal on nayuta team lol

[tropic summit]

surprised you struggling against these, you already know how to clear

[strange linden]

yeah nayuta I used the usual cindy team, but first one I thought Nero/Moran/anisTT would sweep

[tropic summit]

this is just an option, all 3 teams are abusable

one of his weakest defs

[upper grove]

we should be probably 1.8m+ or even 1.9m+ cp with takina compared to him I think, less deficit to worry about

but I'm so close to the kill anyway, I won't bother with takina

[tropic summit]

hmmmmm

you think privT can be subbed with helmT?

they probably serve near same purpose

[abstract badge]

Think i'll need help with that lol 😅

[tropic summit]

albeit privT buffs a tad more

[tropic summit]

post your box or blabla link set to public

[upper grove]

could work at higher cp, just that priv buffs better

[abstract badge]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtOTIzMjE3NzE0MzQwNDg4ODYwMg%3D%3D

My current def team

[charred quail]

I’m trying to figure out how to beat these teams

These are my current teams

And this is my blabla link

https://www.blablalink.com/user?openid=MjkwODAtMTUyMTU0MjQyMjQxNTgzOTMyMTQ=

Also, would like an explanation on why it beats that teams?

[tropic summit]

try these next

• anisTT blanc vestiTU biscuit noir
• moran siren swha drakeT noah
• nayuta trina helmt rh rumani

[queen smelt]

how do i unphase this ahhh, im regret now cuz i didnt care abt pvp before

[cedar sorrel]

U didnt care ab pvp so u decided to go for the most useless pve treasure that also bricks ur pvp. Smart

[arctic jewel]

I'm just surprised to see her in this team, like, isn't she supposed to buff True Damage?

[abstract badge]

And cubes?

Esp for rumani cause she empty

[queen smelt]

i just maxed every single treasure cuz i had nothing to do 😔

[cedar sorrel]

Big rip. U can use her still in niche situations but yeah unless a big change happens ur centi's bricked

[arctic jewel]

rip

[upper grove]

she deals true dmg on her own burst and her only job vs altruia is killing 1 noah shield on each phase

dmg requirements are much easier to hit, killing 1 shield is huge

[arctic jewel]

I've only used Takina once, and it was with Chisato during the Altruia Solo Raid, I can barely remember that fight, I believe I destroyed the shields in a different way

[arctic jewel]

but yeah, maybe I should watch the whole video before saying anything xD

[queen smelt]

enjoying my moment, f those whales

[tropic summit]

show CP with these

[upper grove]

shields were doable in SR without true damage, at this much of a deficit that's impossible

[arctic jewel]

I can imagine, I'm not there yet in Hard mode, so I haven't experienced that specific fight yet

[tropic summit]

anisTT quantum
blanc vigor
vestiTU tempering
biscuit vigor
noir any

moran tempering
siren tempering/any
swha tempering
drakeT any
noah tempering/vigor/any

nayuta any
trina quantum/any
helmt tempering/any
rh any
rumani quantum/any

[abstract badge]

Ok i defeated that guy, now time to see if this def holds

[abstract badge]

Looks like i will have to focus on tempering for when I get enough union chips

[tropic summit]

tbf a working def at that synchro is rare, unless people have been monkeys for 2 years without learning pvp it shouldn't generally hold

we've access to a ton of broken units that can trivialize any def

defense would need to have access to 2 biscuits and 2 noahs to have a chance

[abstract badge]

Rip easy 3k gems every half a month

[tropic summit]

@upper grove tempting to build her if she cheeses it that well... but at the same time i'm almost 621

[glad meteor]

I have takina and chisato invested

But i dk timings

[umbral belfry]

whale k

[glad meteor]

So. A lot of iframing

[glad meteor]

F2P. Ain’t that right @rich quail

TEo can surely vouch

[umbral belfry]

no you both are bigger whales than me and rosy

we're the true f2ps

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/j-jonah-jameson-slander-libel-spider-man-jk-simmons-gif-23201080

[tropic summit]

it's actually simple

first orbs you manual dodgeroni
all the other orbs be in firing position and cover when they start flying then back to firing position and repeat

if orbs target you during firing position and start flying, you'll cover to trigger iframe

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

if orbs target you while in cover, they will hit cover which is bad cuz you need it to survive AoE wave

rest is just pew pew

[glad meteor]

Rail the real PVE go0n

[tropic summit]

i'm campaign malder at best, me shooting range main

[glad meteor]

Always was

[cedar sorrel]

Im just hard stuck ch8 now

[tropic summit]

all you need is to 💳

then you can win them all

[glad meteor]

Temporary. You just need to follow rail advice

[cedar sorrel]

Theyre like casually 80-100k cp above me with all teams AT LEAST

Some are nearing 200k on their cp pads

Who will win??

[upper grove]

you could throw base OL and try your luck don't forget she needs s2 and burst lvled up to 7 for her personal/true dmg

I'm sync 613 now, should be able to kill it in 1-2 lvls

[tropic summit]

how far did you build her for now?