#pvp-arena
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how to beat?
Not gapped like this, barely
bro you need anti nuke
that's glass cannon
2RL noah with a liberalio to bypass bay and survive privT
I'm faster than they are
do what you want 
don't you dare go p2p 
but but
and don't influence him 
you'll win some battles but you'll lose the war 
you'd be joining the dark side 

before you know it you'll be using auto 
so thats how it works
you'll start thinking "oh i can gap these, easy win" 
and you'll make defenses that abuse deficit advantage 
eventually you'll grow tired of pvp because you keep winning without effort 
and then you'll no longer be rosy 
imagine
Can anyone help me how to lineup a team 😭
SP arena or rookie
im new
hi new, nice to meet you
im just pressing auto 💔 for my teams
indeed, felt a bit rare people still calling me rosy and never dareina 
hi new, im new too

I need help about my team lineup
but special arena or rookie arena?
new the joke of today ggg
we have our expert Rail to handle the things


sorry to tell but umm i have no idea what does that mean maybe im rookie
we mean this
which of the two modes you want help
C1
🐳
Rookie
uk really best thing u need to do know much more about pvp it's cool mode but sometime e hard there many good people here know ell about pvp
SP arena
- nayuta arcanaFM vestiTU trina siren
- midhara neonOS anisTT velvet drake
- DKW alice adeB anisOG label
Rookie
- nayuta anisTT privaty helm drake
Mihara
just normal things to do, catch the boi when he has 1h there saving my spot so i can take it back


The thing is i like playing story and doing events quest i rarely play arena
Sadisto mihara better
:
ik when i start game i did same but it's would be very good i give pvp sometime
as u see here everyone can help if u needed anything
sounds like something someone without a 💳 would say
But good luck with your bracket
I don’t have the will to spend. 

I can’t go broke on gacha I’m still young 
because you're a sane person 

@shell hazel
@gaunt pulsar @swift mango look what lose side i need some help . bec i not sure well who's the winning side but i've feeling bird is winner 
this event is big shit 
1-1 1-2 1-1
Scammed? 

I’m on cycle 13
hacks
@shell hazel @tropic summit pick a spot
bottom right surely
Only cycle 6? You dif all missons?
120k cred
yup 
my own luck on this is poor I won't curse you lol
i heard this slap xd from here
You must
or else get spanked anyways


yeah Kara!


don't
me 


purple mold Kara don't let me pick it
that's how my pilgrim molds look like

literally my last 8 pilgrim mold failed, if not more
i've also lost count
i just use them assuming they're useless
good god 
this 6 failed then the next 2 also failed, I actually don't recall if I failed the ones before this so it may be more than 6
ik what the most pilgrim i really need noah i've like near to 3 years in game and still 0 noah
can i win?
swha blanc rh centi jackal

you can dupe noah with silver mileage anyway
she's come team first gg
ty it works
it's not everyday you get a chance to help DP
@shell hazel we need to come up with a better plan to scout @glad meteor
last time i fought SpA was 191 days ago
there has to be something we can leverage 
oh wow 
kinda clueless about SpA now while i just copying CA cook
took him 5 times at least
thanks, actually won both def against the guy who beat me consistently
but where is my compensation?
@tropic summit @shell hazel
dafuq you were building SBS?
She was pretty poop before
I’m not rolling cs on anis 
@glad meteor


anisTT gangb ||party||
Trium sound familiar for some reason 
oh actually 
5 anises and none in the best costume smh
pve g0on 
Shes fine
seems like left one L to me 
so bird win right ?
i feel it even with my smoll experience in pvp
that hit rate should have been cs
ele 1st line, you can lock and reroll
were you able to keep a burst chain?
nah it was normal mode anyway, we were done within seconds
Maybe later. No elec raid for like a month or so prob
I will try thank you so much 🙏


Works
gz
She doesnt need much cs
Nice

Any tips for comps that only use pve units? 
anis? 1~4 depends on how much cs your helmT/emi have, but 2 lines is just fine
or you just don't use teams that need cs on anis
how much CS does she need? And Charge Damage is apparently OK?
anis?
Same as you would helm
Auto and eep 
yeah
Everyone lags behind her and helm
post your box or blabla link set to public and we can make you teams
Id stop at 11 and youre fine
you can form 3 competent teams even with pve units nowdays
4ele, 3~4atk, 1~3 ammo 1~4 cs, the cs depends on if you have helmT+3cs or emi 3+cs
competent
2 cs is just fine

maybe he's ultra 🐳 it will be competent 

at the same time... you don't need cs...
currently I have 2 with 4.04 % (so 8.08%)
well shiet biscuit and jackal out of synchro
pve value over pvp value, pvx should be something like 4 ele (atk) 2 cs-2ammo
ys ser its been like 2/3 seasons 
the pve way
the problem for 4 atk anis is only against rosanna if you play 1 attacker and a biscuit, rosanna can dispel your biscuit S2 on anis because she get like 40%atk buff at the start of the battle, but you just build for pve and get 2 cs in case you need
ok, unfortunately I have 0 Ammo for Anis
No wasting rocks on pvp scrubs
Did you see wuwa x cyberpunk collab? I’m thinking of trying wuwa
anis is pve, so you can waste rocks there
around 100 rocks, far better than my 100 rocks lib
SP arena
- nayuta anisTT privT xmaiden bsoda
- moran siren swha lib anchorIM
- naga cindy brid:ST helmT RH
Notes
- if you wanna improve your odds build up these 3 SSS tier units:
noah, biscuit, jackal
get your teams upgraded then
I can afford them as long as i don't need good OL
But dolls and skills should be fine
4/4/4 R15-SR5 with 4OL, no need good actual lines just overloaded lvl 0
base OL is always good...
most of the new units are just broken and at low synch you can do "more" dmg
here's my current Anis
Who can they substitute? Should be able to do it rn
you only need 1 ele and ammo, at least 1 ammo line
hmmm, that means that I need to get rid of either Def or Charge Damage
charge dmg is the "easiest"
i mean, at least you will get a effect after the reroll
First @hollow lagoon now you are stealing my Anis atk lines too?? 
while you're at it build/wishlist vestiTU
true, I'll wait with the boots, since that Charge Damage is giving my Anis a lot of CP, and try to fix the gloves
if you want to try luck with the 2nd line or reroll that atk+def, you can try, but still is a expensive reroll
like the one you need ele dmg for 3rd line
for that reason i rerolled my gloves with ele 1st line, but i got good effects without ele
@verbal light next step then get vestiTU and blanc up to speed
you can rotate a few units to T1 this way
yeah, I kinda want to keep that Def line, but it's only useable in PvP
not really, well, anis will tank at bit more, but she already get like 50%def after her burst
so most of the other units will get the explosion dmg buff
and dps role anis will probably be with biscuit on her team
ugh, how annoying
so... just build for pve and if the unit have uses in pvp you can give 2~3 lines to that, in this case is CS, you want 4atk/ele and ammo for pve, so 2or 3 cs work for pvp
because it's like you said, it becomes expensive
that is why most of my units keep the base OL
@arctic jewel the secret is to not build units for pvp because you don't actually need to
CS% is a cherry on top but not strictly necessary, this when it comes to SP arena which is the only mode you should care about
just get atk% and ele% because that helps you on pve, and some units ammo
attackers have infinite tools nowdays, you really could clear pvp teams with pve units 
then I think I'll just have 2 CS, the other 2... we'll see
the only good units you can build for pvp are the ones you use in most of your teams... jackal is one, blanc can be another, but those just need high cp in most of the cases
the rest is just cp from the main dps (pve unit) and probably the sub dps that also happen to be a pve unit in the current "meta" of the game
does Anis benefit anything from CS in PvE?
wasted stat
you want ammo and some crit rate or dmg
for pvp can change the synergy a lot at the start of the battle
but anis have like 30% fixed cs during her burst
the value of cs in pvp depends on the burst gen of your team and cs of some units, helmT or emi, anis+ one of those 2 can change the speed a lot, but if your helmT or emi don't have the cs to last hit at the same time anis, anis cs doesn't work
for slower teams, 2 cs anis can skip siren, at least p1 unit, for 2RL teams means something like from 1.8RL to 1.5RL or less
that's even more annoying, so I miss out on some damage if I have CS stat lines on her
that is why you think about the pve value over pvp value, you can get cs or just don't use teams that need anis last hit
your anis only need the last ele and at least 1 ammo
I'll probably change the Charge Damage stat to Ammo or something
man that's annoying
it is what it is... helmT 1st line reroll was like +160rocks wasted to get cs
is pvp for whale?
Pretty much
okay
it's for those who keep up with progression, whales do have an advantage though
f2p can still compete, just keep up with your campaign pushing
Thanks for the help. Gonna need a few days to OL everyone but i'll get there 
just be lucky
top30 is fine, lower than that you can try to invest on your teams to get better rewards
yes
i dont even know what would be good for pvp( at ch.25)
at some point you will have to check pvp, good time to learn basic things
still no ele?
zant doesn't need ele he neutral master
C7 makes up for that more than enough
in solo raid? probably
How would a noise, Noah, blanc, vesti/Cindy, Jackal team perform? Overkill? Bad? The noise and Noah are linked
(looking from left to right)
T1 is stacked and way better to skip it
T2 and T3 are on the weaker side
T2 weak to anti nuke
T3 weak to indom
e.g. teams:
T2 noise rumani/anisTT cindy helmt noah
T3 blanc swha rh biscuit jackal
you don't need to put blanc with noah, they serve 2 different archetypes
you can go for anti nuke or for indom with that
- noise jackal vestiTU flex blanc (vestiTU indom)
- noise jackal vestiTU flex noah (anti nuke DPS)
This pic is perfect for a lot of things

Any suggestions on overhauling my SP teams?
My ShiftyPad link is here for my full roster: https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTQ0MDEyMzQ3MDk2NDY0Mjc3NjQ%3D
Oh right, I forgot they both have invul
wdf. Scar siren
Noah bisc sanis. Rail San going to cook
I was just trying to find a biscuit replacement
SP arena
- nayuta anisTT privT laplaceT helmT
- jackal scarlet vestiTU blanc noir
- moran noah biscuit swha noise
he actually has very good invested utilities, pretty wild 
you know it's wild when your batteries and utiltiies are even higher than helmT 
Thanks for the suggestions. 
i saw her occasionally used in fire SRs sometimes

cuz MGs have good DPS offburst
Yeah. I don’t like investing her
My friend came back to nikke to find out she + liter are "bad" nowadays
liter and modernia were my core campaign units in 2023 
think i was running liter centi mod alice scarlet back then or some shiet
if noise is to the left on anisTT, you do not re-enter
if anis is before noise, you re-enter and delay your burst
as long as you've 2RL and a noah or bay or blanc B2, you can afford re-enter
situationally nero aswell
keep in mind anisTT regardless prefers to NOT re-enter in pvp
@tropic summit May I bother you once again for advice?
what's up
chat should I fully invested in Centi treasure?, some say it is bad for pvp

you guys experienced on your skin, what's your experience @hollow lagoon @swift mango
Is not bad
Really bad my friendo
I can beat his team 3 with my team 3, rest get me.
If you plan to use her for PvP, don't go beyond T1.
Just go phase 1 if anything
T2
- blanc swha rh biscuit jackal
T3 - noise anisTT cindy helmt noah
assemble the teams and show CP
not even phase 1
Thats why my centi is not treasured
Also
Really? Isn't the shield change on phase 2?
Probably yeah
yes
Finally cooking i see
SU reduced future centi value with a treasure worse than the base unit
sad universe
limites my options now
FYI @wild patio
Yeah 2/6 I guess. First 2 of the 6. People started building teams to counter Vesti and he flopped.
Probably most people went more than phase 1 and thats why we do not see her much in CA anymore
at least the lobby is nice
It doesn't matter. 1+, 1- equal 0. In CA ofc. SpA, don't.
I put a, carefully worded feedback regarding how the treasure was a nerf on one of the last few surveys. 
thanks to them we know that her treasure is worse than what it looked, the heal only proc when centi own shield breaks
@tropic summit
Ah so that's why you wouldn't want phase 1 either.
that is the norm since her treasure update, always talk about centi treasure, about how CA sucks and reshuffle is just ff

ok you can run those
give tempering to SWHA and vigor to RH
Thank you sir, one more question, please
noise vigor

we need 5more tempering slots to go full tempering
noah biscuit privT swha anisTT
For attack and defense? Or just attack to hide my power level?
it's rookie, you can ignore it altogether tbh
you'll end up just training him and giving him information
do your 5 daily attempt win on anyone and move on, it's generally the best move
Fair enough. Any cube recommendations?
Yes sir. 🫡
for the rookie team?
noah tempering
biscuit vigor
privT tempering
swha tempering
AnisTT quantum
Understood, as usual, thank you so much. I appreciate it
Indeed
Preparing your rivals.to get the best of you
lmao wtf bruh
Yeah you'll see weird teams in bricked brackets
How to unbrick
Hammer
Uhh I'm sure I won't make it that far 
i'll see you in top 16 


Hammer? 
If you hit the brick with a hammer, its not a brick anymore

wuwa lets gooo 
@glad meteor a gacha open world is still a gacha open world... 
Rail I did a full combo on a "hard" song 
Play my favorite open world gacha, monster hunter
Interesting comp
neon just kinda there doing nothing
for the 3 secs invu hels her to survive
that was the idea
copium but i appreciate the attempt 
must b3s besides scar will do some damage and not nuke at once
still interesting tho
I was thinking maybe like Cindy Nayuta Neon copium
i have a match vs cindy with this comp
speed ur opponent up, run full indom meme team
but can b1 survive?
if there was invul b1 it would most likely be really good
u prolly have to biscuit it
I like interesting ideas
I like being 3rd in SPA get's free 2 guinea pigs 1st is just boring

if would be really fun for C.A if there is B1 that survives for few seconds
One day my MilkT teams will be viable 
we got Nayuta and Neon surviving only b1 nnow
makima too
Isn't MilkT PVE?
YEA makima also just that makima is weaker version of nayuta
gives nothing in terms of buffs
can prob ask Blood. His teams are quite creative @swift mango
I wanna see opponent burst 1RL then u survive 3 seconds then comback comp
other guy would be like wtf happen
within normalcy tho
Zant more animal and interesting as comp maker
his bisucit p5 was a mistake but still
@tropic summit wacth this then 
milk at home 
LFGGG 
Folkwang meta
nah its ass 

low damage on moran so rosanna burst nuked her avoiding the chain to happen
so i wanted to finally start fixing my teams for SPA but i really dont know where to start, these are the nikke i dont have and my favorite item progress but if cores matter, i can post the full list
Better to send ur full units in horizontal 
guilty highest cp?

i like guilty
C7 guilty enjoyer
that guilty man
Where's the heal come from
you didnt use folkwang back then? 
Noise Bay Lib Emilia Noir
Jackal Vesti Anis Blanc Guilty
Moran Noah Biscuit Helm SBS
what level is ur folkwang skill wise?
No i never use her
its 1/1/10, its a meme team 
ty ty
folkwang gives lifesteal
10? do you still have skill reset?

my milk 1/1/10 too 
yes
she was already 117 with OL cus I used her back in like 2023
is this with the assumption i can max any of the characters in my roster, minus the favorite items? i have a lot of materials but i just dont know who to build
plapd by altruia
I thought i would see pairing with helmt.
Vampire lord nikke burst
Then isn't it better to have her in p2
Let Nneon p5 for anti SG
Do try to fav item Moran 
nah my thanos high atk ros cleanse bisc Im bricked 
either way its the same just need to get lucky 
nerose also using it 
It’s time
Then take this

yes cus we copy paste the same person
his scar the same pos with my scar its funny
dif variant tho he use sanis
At least Nneon's immune won't get wasted
It'll trigger when she gets dmged right?
yes
yes
dumping roks on thanos and mine still pepega 
Then similar to label
P1-p2 is kind of a taboo
Taboo
need more tempering slots
Just level 16 tempering
12 not enough?

Need 25 
17
give 3 more slots
🔞
that too

would ttanis here be better than MoranT?
I was running this for rookie defense
but maybe there are better teams(?)
dont they kinda play the same way?
ig this one has more survibability (?)
but I'd ideally like to keep swha for cp padding
not really, T.T.Anis besto B1 and give strong buff
what is "pressure" as a team concept? I hadnt heard about it before how's it work
U do so much damage opponent cant stall la

this
wouldnt it make it similar to a nuke?
or does pressure imply continuous damage?
and nuke instant 1 time big dmg?

It dosnt matter call it what u want
oh so it's the same?
thanks I didnt know 
Can someone help me create SP Arena teams? I’ve got a good roster so it shouldn’t be too hard.. I just really never play pvp
It will never fail u if you put in enough
1316 rocks
What
it's honestly my first time also seeing all black lines
well I mean it's Japan server 29b isn't even top 200 there
2nd time 

not mine ofc 
Can send ur full roster in horizontal 
I mean bro who is willing to throw 1316 rocks for all black lines?
Thanks hold on, right now it’s several images, I’ll try to merge them
I think i threw 200 rocks for 2 black lines n 6 blue lines on Rapi
I’ve got pretty much all Nikkes that are not built too, except for Emilia and XDiesel
Got resilience and bastion lvl 15, quantum cube lvl 9 atm, levelling that now
Moran Noah Helm SWHA VestiTU
Scar Trina RH Centi Jackal
Anis Blanc Biscuit Lib Rumani
Give Rumani and biscuit Quantum cibe
Ok great! And everything in order as you noted it I assume?
yep
Thank you so much; I appreciate it! 😊

Oh btw, you mean anis star right?
yes Star Anis

Fully blacklined up on a sunday is bonkers crazy

But trust, we gonna get T.T.Mint and T.T.Prika
Soon 
Imagine the possibilities
I want Mecha shifty. I want the nuke 👾
Last question, sorry! It probably wouldn’t be optimal, but I can use this setup for both defense and attack?
Busy setting everything up at the moment
yes its alright. Ideally we tailor our attack teams
In attack, can replace RH for regular Soda
Alright thanks!
can someone help me make 3 teams for arena? i finally got helmT geared a bit. much thanks!
Nayuta Anis Helm SWHA Rapi
Jackal Trina Vesti Centi Lib
Auto
auto for last?
Old sp rival won 2 and lost 2 against my rookie again. He is like 42 synchro higher and his own defense team is almost 500k higher cp than mine 

Testing stuff for last CA beta season
Sure, while he has made top 4 like 5 times and I've made top 64 twice 
And it is a re-enter Anis + Moran team that Rail gave me, doubt many of those in CA 
Snow
I was thinking of trying with Helm too, since she has way more cp than my snow and max core
I use it with helm
I feel its better
More survability
But if it works for you with snow, go for it
What order do you have? Might as well try myself since Rookie is whatever anyway
T.T.Anis/Noah/Biscuit/HelmT/MoranT
There. The only two people who actually are willing to attack me already used their daily 5, so will know after next reset if they can beat it or not
With helm your cp is better?
Only about... 130k CP 
Also keep in mind if they go solo T.T.Anis, P3 water gonna die fast and once Anis cast B1 she start hitting all units
I only have 1 star on Snow
130k more cp than with snow?
Ye
Big jump

Try to not use P3 water
Unless you sure you can survive against a well invested T.T.Anis
I actually swapped Snow into P3 for a test. That is exactly what my rival lost to 
I think if he was using the same team all 4 attacks, I think he probably did kill Snow on the ones he won and didn't on the losses. Might not be a consistent team on his side

any counters for team 1 and 3?
fight team 2
that team is a free win even in deficit
moran - noah - biscuit - snow white - helm. If you arent in deficit then you dont need biscuit
team 3 I won in my bracket at 25% deficit with miharaBC - anis - blanc - biscuit - privatyTr
any substitute for mihara? I havent built her yet
just put another MG ig? I have her there to slow the team down and apply DoT to the other team. The idea is to just run a slower indom
thats the big weakness of snow + blanc, since snow takes like 2 seconds to charge up her burst, you can afford to run a very slow indom comp and just outlast them
combined with privaty stun sometimes snow wont even get to shoot
actually, maybe jsut run anis - blanc - biscuit - privaty - cindy
should be slow enough
I also realized you have biscuit for 2 teams lol
ye, bisc is on the other team in case you're in deficit but I dont think you will be
so you wont need her, you can run vesti, laplace, centi whoever really
just make sure you burst with snow (or vesti, if you decide to run her)
I really slack off after not qualify for CA, 3 days not login
actually if you have christmas soline built you can even use her
team should still be fast enough and you get some protection from laplace
I sadly dknt have her built lol
damn 
aint no one build xsoline 
no xoline believers
ehhh jsut use trina then
burst gen and gives moran some extra bulk
from what happened last bracket he only lost out on champs twice and hes x5 winner now
the 2 losses that he had the other guy with the square name took it instead
yea this guy and him took all the wins
also general question but uhh does neon actually need cs for pvp or nah
since her burst gen is shit anyway
yes for pve, so yes for pvp 
doesn't seem like it if your rich
just gacha click ur stacked rocks for 1 year in a single day 
for pvp is just plain bad
PVE much needed tho can unlock about 20%-30% damage difference
U still want cs% on Neon if u can. Faster autos
I guess if your really aiming for that 0.1 sec or somethin increase
My moran is cursed no matter what changing effect always pop charge speed 😅
It think she want to have RL 
Moran no worth rerolling tbh 
Yep, already gave up after 2nd attempt
Do you guys try to get 3 lines on supporter OLs for cp padding? Or is that not really worth it?
not worth
i do but thats me
Are you true pvp main if you dont 12/12 supports
might do it too if the next Nikke isn't that good then lol
12/12 everything is the way
Ca finals decided by 100/50 biscuit ez game
not really
remember biscuit not the only support
but this season im not even using biscuit
some of us do. But generally not worth it
I think at early syncs (200-500), the cp gain from line is quite alot, so u can
Quiry,Nayuta,EmmaTactical,Trina,Noise....
695 sync, so I guess it wont be as big of a gain for me
Yeah but whatif misindom onto bisc who has crazy damage mindgames 
100 ele advantage > anis 
ENTERRRTAINNNMENTOOO
@tropic summit im no longer deficit but
does this mean i need more ammo on my testi? or more atk?
Quick question for you PVP Kings 👑
Should I treasure Centi? I thought treasure ruins her PvP
Please advise thanks 🙏❤️👑

im not a king nor a knight but i can tell you centi's treasure phase 2 and above makes it easier for the enemy to gain burst faster so in a normal setting thats bad. period
if you absolutely want to make her treasure can stop at phase 1 and still be safe
but if you want phase 3 then you can use her to force enemy indom teams to burst faster than your indom teams so their indom ends before yours
i.e. high level on mind games.
its safer to not treasure her or just stop at P/T 1
@marble saddle thank you PVP bro 🙏👑🙏👑
I will not treasure her then
I thought that shift Up would have fixed her by now but I guess not
you can terasure her and keep her phase 1, as long as you dont mind an annoying red dot
treasures have never been fixed as of yet
do these teams look acceptable? referencing the standard spa defence teams pins. Do not have: VestiTU, Ada, Noise, Nero built
nah im just gonna keep 160 frags and stop her at sr15 until EOS 
Scar Trina RH Rumani Jackal
Anis Blanc Biscuit Lib Centi
Moran Noah Helm SWHA Siren/lapT/xMaiden/Emilia/SG whichever most invested
Good teams 
thanks, appreciate the advice! I'll stick lapT in team 3
may i know how much CS for anis star ? do i rly need atleast 18%
no. For pvp purposes, 2cs% is more than enough. 1-2cs lines is good 
4ele 4 atk 2ammo 1-2cs% is great enough
Tho some comps at a point scale entirely on her CS 
Esp ar heavy
Hi guys. Can I get a tune up? Current SPA Def:
Moran-Noah-HelmT-SWHA-RH
Jackal-VestiTU-Rumani-Blanc-Centi
Scar-Siren-Trina-TTAnis-Emi
Thanks
No Scarlet for Def
Will Vesti die here? Need a weird team because of cp issues
Yes, P1 with 2 water units
I've been trying to get the silver frame since they first released this mode. Does anyone have any reasonable predictions? My inexperienced guess from looking at the match ups is:
r1: Left? Indom Emilia win?
r2: Left? Outspeed
r3: Right? Liberalio out dps Cinderella after Noah burst?
r4: Right? Jackal feeds shotgun
r5: Right??? Left outspeeds and scarlets first but Label hardcounters scarlet team?
t1 left is too slow, + trina anis and emilia shooting her at p2, she is dead before indom lands on her and rh is dead to nayuta
t2 left is dead to vesti, and burst because they get at least 2 kills and 73% energy from rosa
other 3 seems to be in right favor too, not sure about t3, but t4 and t5 should be right
Cindy+Nayuta+Rei+biscuit+Centi phase 2
Label/Cindy+Nayuta/Makima+Cindy/Label+Biscuit+Centi phase 2
Ofc these kind of feeding team depend on opponent being dumb and playing RL while can't calculate burst gen to save their life. Or CA
alright thanks
Should i just remove CS and add another ED?
anyone know a counter to this team?
nayuta/t-helm/rh/centi/rumani
t-moran/noah/biscuit/swha/trina
jackal/vesti:tac/blanc/ada/emilia
my rapu got her stun to work on all 3 qualifier matches lol
@tropic summit @tidal lichen @gaunt pulsar
Somehow, my Trina, Moran, and Scarlet survived the enemy stun and Issen, and then my Scarlet’s Issen came right after
moran b1 has DR so if she b1 before scarlet b3 you may live
yep, u re right
if the other scar doesn't crit as well

saying that I don't like using moranT here it's too expensive
trina won't give immunity to both scarlet and moran as well I think
how to touch this team
I want a fun match, not just copying the meta. 
what CA are we on now? I lost count
post the cp
then prob ping zanth for unorthodox teams
zanta runs cursed teams yep
2.32 mill
oh you're a newbie and not a vet. my bad
yeh. idk pvp
me too. so..... gl with loma i guess
@last vigil if you wanna experiment you can try using this team rail made for someone else
I usually go like this:
t1 - depends on enemy cs% but moran+noah+lib+trina or any other clip rl on 11% or higher + helm - is usually all you need
t2 - p1 indom SWHA, usually with rh and vesti in team, so SWHA linked to jackal and vesti on lower hp than them, and rh on p4, and you get sw/blanc/vesti/rh/jackal, the main point here is to just pop 2 bisc stacks before they burst b2
t3 - haven't fought emilia ever, but I usually use rumani or centi/sbs/nayuta/cindy/rosa, so 2 sacrifice units to throw under vesti and rosa them, force jackal to get indom and kill the rest with cindy.
try a slower indom with biscuit
who can swap vesti
hope your blanc survives vesti at p3 😄
?
we need to go a bit slower so moran
and SWHA
cindy also an option
I don't think SG target skips cindy
thanks! it worked!
he hit kinda hurt swha died quick
I try this
wait a sec
your sw died pre-burst?
try the cindy version, but you can safely put blanc to p2 if drake doesn't do much damage to cindy
yeh
sw works twice
715M damage tanked by vesti 😄
but yeah nice work 🙂
Would this be a strong def too
you should consider building vesti at some point, she is mainly pvp and hard mode campaign but you prob way past campaign stuff
yeh building her would only be for pvp
it's OK but uses two defensive units in blanc and biscuit
so you noah on a 2nd team
but you got no biscuit left for 3rd
it can work if you running a nayuta team for 3rd maybe
this is just rookie
for rookie I dunno, I'd not give your game away too much on what to run?
yeh i better not use it
you may try it for def but if they see you do that they'll probably know you used it against them :p
lol
was scrolling chat up, and found idea interesting, so wanted to see too
https://youtu.be/0dH7TXmPCOI
Who ccoked this? 
looks familiar
could do Makima or Ludmilla in P5
or Neon
Neon sounds good
With cp like that, this should win
Ludmilla better actually, taunts on burst 
tried with neon first, she wasn't able to force anis into bisc stack so I popped one before burst on noah, and one after noah shield ran out, and got stuck shooting immune noah until i'm dead, with vesti worked fine though, but could also use laplace i guess
Hmmm Im thinking if we replace Vesti with makima, would it outstall Blanc indom 
some imaginary units
never heard of those
Have you tried nayuta rosa sg?
Could even do siren sg
Nayuta SG SG ros/siren SG
Fire sg may help kill blanc one sw down 
Having ele on sg is naisu




Hm... should have replaced Nayuta with Miahara 
Why blanc and noah be together 
Makima’s toolkit is interesting but I don’t see old players use her at all these days
Not even in CA
Some use in early CA. But kinda faded cause low gen +mIhara
SMG is a problem yeah 
The only problem is her dmg is like poking the opponent
Makes sense more then. You don’t want to be left against Moran with her too 
Plus water
If she has some dmg tech, i'm sure everyone will bring it to ca
If they release some smg buffer we might see some resurgence of units like E.H. In PvE at least.
Because smg is a joke. We have only couple of units that are functional.
Nayuta doesn’t count 
Miranda+
No i didn't brute force. Thought he had biscuit
for pvp what cube to max after reslience, bastillion and quantum?
temperance to 7/10/13
quantum to 7
👀
Not my cup of tea, but OK
@tropic summit btw, did some thinking yesterday, I'm starting to lean towards building a PvE Anis, it's just weird for me to have CS lines if it won't do a lot
you had plenty of ammo, just lack damage to finish off moran, try any of these that are not gapped:
- helmT swha rosanna jackal noah (rosanna linked)
- scarlet trina anisTT swha helmT (tempering on scarlet)
- jackal siren lib helmT noah (dependant on enemy CS%)
Thoughts?
told you yesterday, don't build units for pvp, you don't need to
not like you need cs to beat your opponent, do it 
if you build for pvp it's a choice you can make but you don't have to because even without CS% you can win SP arena, which is the only mode that actually matters (reward wise)
There’s a SPA war in my bracket. There’s like 6-7 players fighting 
Hey so does the rep team this player has on the leader board the same team he uses?
rookie team and sp arena teams are set on their respective menu, that's just "flex"
Idk how to build an actual pvp team. Is there like a formation i can copy from somewhere?
refer to these: #pvp-arena message
hi, looking to know if i did everything correctly trying to follow what rheax wrote here
You’re too close to me in sync
Move 
could say the same to @shell hazel 

we're coming to get you Kara


very pog teams
@tropic summit I really think this team works 
hmmm slow cindy with extra steps i guess it could 
Defended against my opponent who CP gaps me 
it won't work against team with little p1 pressure and liberalio though
true
so if opponent isn't a monkey they'll try to bypass biscuit with a lib 1hitko nukeroni
well if anything it's a skill check, people who keeps running the same op teams might trip on this one
"hurr durr why my moran noah doesn't work against this" 
4-5RL counter ig
ye you'll hit when noah pants are down generally here


Don’t fall victim rail chan
Makima is too evil

There are other evil women to simp over
Like crow
No lie a girl ran away from me like this once when I tried to ask her out for coffee 
silly you, should've been looking like henry cavill then she would run straight to your bed
@tropic summit hobo one of us
damn looks like my friendship with @raven plover is also over 

imagine being able to choose between girls like arcana, privaty, cindy, siren, RRH, liberalio... and you go and choose crow... 
also next time @versed mesa just show her your nikke collection
instant easy rizz


Nice to see Crowbros in chat



thoughts on this one?
Does it even make sense to pair t.t.anis with another b1?
Even if anis does not burst
depends
scar trina anisTT helmT swha
Fair
For me that pooks like too many important pvp units wasted
Rookie team
that's an attack team
you've noah moran helmt swha lib cindy biscuit still open
Now i have to ask, what would be 3 good defense teams? Idk what people currently use
makes sense, run
noah biscuit lib helmt rumani (def in p1 and p5)
for rumani you can flex with jackal if you need the CP
survived the nuke
show the CP with the matchup
its 1,464,282 against 1,326,698(for this team)
you popped biscuit stack on p1 with rumani noah biscuit?
was helmt killed before you cast lib?
a record would help
probs not didn't see the updated one
need info to help you since the lib one was supposed to bypass biscuit stacks as long as you don't pop them on p1
what team should i try
let's reduce entirely p1 damage
noah lib helmt swha rh
record the match if possible because i need to see your damage on p1
hopping on mobile cuz easier to record
any cube suggestions?
noah tempering
lib any
helmt any
swha any
rh tempering
Tell me why
first time i see this
a RH buffed lib non lethal on a unit 
without a B2 anti nuke
ok gotta change strat then

let's go for the classics
scarlet blanc rh anisTT jackal
this will melt moran and pop both stacks early
scar died early
she's not linked in that setup?
a defender linked over an attacker
Anuss pressure
he's 1.5RL with that
SG feed on p5
scarlet blanc rh centi jackal @agile agate , make sure you know your links next time
if centi is phase 2 or phase 3 run rumani instead
didn't burst fast enough i think
did you record?
lemme find it
read ir wrong ig
try with that 
jesus christ we got em 
time to see a different team tmr
oh that's fine, if he can cook these things up they're interesting enough
thanks for sharing and the patience 
I will try this team for you, RT
this guy was a champions arena winner im pretty sure
i gotta recover from seeing a lib rh buffed nuke non lethal against a moran and biscuit b1 and b2 
future looks grim
rly ? idk how to beat them if someone copies me though 
looks like very good invested units if anything, if he is also high in cores could explain surviving earlier comps
I am looking to buff Drake ele dmg to combat Blanc
And I want to see if I can counter Biscuit via ele dmg
Maybe LaPlus or something
Laplus is ok
Drek is not so good





