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Makes sense pretty smart team choice
only way this mess up is if Mihara HP lower than Vesti so she get indom instead 

Looks fine
@tropic summit @oak hatch Can VestiTU/Rapunzel/Ada/Trina/Jackal function as a team at all?
thank guys. imma try it tomorrow
In SP Arena btw
I think you dead with Trina as your B2 
Rapu kinda struggling in SP
She's never stun in my SP
ugh... F... I guess this will do as my answer
Even when she clearly under 30%, shes still not stun lmao
Yeah trying to win just off rapunzel is pretty unreliable, maybe if u had blanc as well but then the team would be too slow
it's ridiculously hard to cook something more unique
Didn’t u just cook something yesterday? 
it didn't last very long
well when you have to consider how many matchup you need to defend against
there is only a few stable defense tools
everything else only win if your opponent does specific attack

few stable defense tools + annoying opponent = migrane
Are u not holding top 3 already?
yes, I'm fully aware that I sound greedy, but I also want to upgrade my Nikkes as much as possible
Anniv is PvP no?
Defense is easy to break through, u can make all the unique cooks and they can still break it through targeting 2 of the easier teams. So when my rival was around the same sync as me I just let them have c1 and test ca teams on them
Maybe we'll get some new build with new Nikke(s) coming for Anniv
I just have to accept this sooner or later
Esp since Anos is ClipRL
what's even more annoying is that my opponent never does well in CA either, so it's basically him just having an ego (he also bullies in Rookie as well)
When anis skill be released?
anyway, let my try to cook one last time
my guess would be 1 or 2 days before the reset, that's how it usually goes
22 I guess
wasn't anisos mag rl?
I've seen it in Livestream
isn't shes clip?
Nah, both are mag rl
oh you guys meant that? I have no clue, didn't pay attention xD
their reload type is mag, whether they have extra burst gen from other mechanics like proc we don't know
That's why I'm curious about their skill
I also wonder how Avistar will work with Anis
😔
she doesn't provide anything for Anis?
but then again
free Nikke...
yeah. She support Anis by making herself tankier 
so she can watch Anis longer 
she is ultimate audience member
Pvp unit
@tropic summit
T1: Nayuta/Trina/HelmT/Rosanna/VestiTU
T2: Jackal/Ein/Blanc/DrakeT/Rumani
T3: MoranT/SWHA/Label/Noah/Biscuit
I couldn't create a Siren stun team, I either lack speed or certain Nikkes to create some other teams
If she makes SAnis tankier, she can survive wipes 
Poggers
Guess I need to start upgrading certain PvP Nikkes... AGAIN...
@oak hatch are these bad?
I could do something like this too:
T1: Nayuta/Trina/HelmT/Rosanna/LaplaceT
T2: Jackal/VestiTU/XMaiden/Blanc/Ada
But I want to test Ein
Idk if t1 is able to kill anything fast enough
It’s 2.5 rl at quickest so they can activate Noah before that
Maybe u can stick to ein then and throw a Laplace on team 1 over Trina to increase ur chance of killing something early for quick burst
I wish I have emi too 
It doesn't really matter if she's powercrept, I just want her burst gen!
Would make team building a lot easier
Rerun one day 
how would that team look like (I mean with positions)?
or maybe I should have something to sacc?
Saccing kinda unreliable cuz u would want uninvested stuff up front and it would lower ur cp
let's just hope that Anis and Neon has that burst gen
that's true...
better in CA when CP is more controlled
I guess I would do vesti p2 if u have good ele it can get tauned by a Noah and wipe it early
ech... I'm gonna try anyway
if it works, then it works, if not... I just reuse what is actually good and accept that I can't hold the 1st placement anymore
you can, but you lose it when you give up 
😔
i've spend last 2 seasons trying to find def that works just to hold c4, changing almost everyday, sometimes twice in 1 day, only to discover that i just cant
could hold like only 4 times total, but place is still mine 🔪
😭
I'm seriously lucky that I have only 1 opponent that wants to take the 1st place
but like I said, he usually can't advance in CA, only me and another opponent
If they stop hitting u for a while u gonna wish they keep hitting u cuz it gets boring
Silence ever since spa reset
When you have her everyone would have 11% team wipe or counter siren team already. 
U synch ur def. 
PvP gods a little help please?
Me 25 sync over rank 2 but I guess they don’t wanna mess with that since it’s also all PvP invest 
just unsynch ur def
I admit that I like it that I have to put my brain to work whenever I start losing
I left my def on 1 nikke before and no one hits 
ur team js a win but it's deficit.
Send ur box
but at the same time, I just want to take it easy without having to worry about my resources xD
Don’t they motivate u to invest harder into ca 
wait a week
yes, but I also want to invest in PvE too you know
U right im too impatient
and make it 2 team with level 1 nikke
What’s PvE? 

😭
if i build up treasure moran, who do i slot out
The superior form of gaming 
Say the guy who didn't clear hard mode. 
can rethink a few teams altogether, there's a lot of temporary units in there
yeah it's a long term goal type thing but im getting by for now
I'm currently at Behemoth Hard mode, but I'm more interested in getting Frame 3s from Solo Raid
SWHA, Noah still need to get
although the increased resource accumalation is always nice
I’m stuck at second crystal chamber
that looks extremely RNGY, i'd say no, weird take on glass cannon with lifesteal
yeah I dropped it
T1 is ok
T2 ein is kitable, don't run her as main B3 imo. Also elec as main B3 in 2026 is generally not recommended
T3 looks ok
from real good rng im actually going to be able to utilize tmoran soon, all i need is to get her bond level way up there then exchange a ton of my leftover helm fav items
that's good, work on your other utilties aswell, moran is a good addition but you're short on batteries from what i see
and from there, rock hell + 1 more piece missing
for batteries i have the usual resilience and bastion from pushing campaign, im focusing more on vigor now
no, batteries as in the actual units that contribute burst gen
ok lol 
I will go with this then:
T1: Nayuta/Trina/HelmT/Rosanna/LaplaceT
T2: Jackal/VestiTU/XMaiden/Blanc/Ada (or Jackal/VestiTU/Blanc/Ada/Centi)
T3: MoranT/SWHA/Label/Noah/Biscuit
back to the classics i see 
yeah... I can't really do much without more Burst gen
dashes are already have, circle is planning to get
and the fact that certain Nikkes aren't built
oh actually i do have vesti too
like XSoline
@tropic summit Like I said earlier, Emilia would make team building way easier
get trina and rumani aswell in that list
(wishlist)
so many rocks.
don't wish for something you'll never have anyway 
😭
I want to laugh... but I just can't...
honestly it shouldnt be that serious for pvp right cause at the end of the day it's a whale's money game and i just put in a few dollars at most on like monthly gems
tbf getting to dia1 should be relatively easy as long as you keep up with daily progression
ch7-ch10 in general should remain within strike zone
ch1-ch6 will have more often than not sweaties to a certain degree
at that point it's up to you on how much you want to compete for those extra 300-600 gems every 15 days
if they sweat do they sweat whale oil
nah some are f2p, i'm f2p myself
there's a degree of skill check and invest check
if you can meet both, you generally can still get into high ch ranks
sometimes i notice that i get switched to like, a completely different pool of players for pvp is that normal
like i expect to see these few names above me all the time but ive noticed like twice they completely get changed
there's actually a reshuffle coming soon for SP arena, so you may get shuffled again
rookie already got reshuffled
oh nice, hope everyone in my next batch isnt hard to beat
just so you know literally everyone in front of me, D3-1 are like, 100+ commander levels ahead
and the power gap is like 400k 😭
the fact i got d4 like this is already a testament to using advice from here lol
@tropic summit
genuinely bad for my health
i could only hold it for like a day but better than none
ur too strong stop booli me
@tropic summit I copium with fake rail
Assume both teams having zero CS. Top would burst faster.
Hey! I'm not THAT sweaty. sniffs Am I? 
we got fake Rail let's go!
I remember you complained about why I didn't asked your team when you got champ. If you had those saved and remember which season you won them I would take them and update the older season list. 
I sorta remember them but it’s so outdated Lel
Wouldent fit in today’s meta
It's would just add to the museum purpose rather than copy pasta function.
@shell hazel same to your case if you remember your team and it won which season.

One of the players in my SP top 4 still hasn't gone past Only One in HM. Don't know if they are genuinely unable to beat it, or just opted not to for some reason. Based on their synchro level it should be relatively easy by now.
its only rail but sync 606
how pathetic your life can be to keep standby in pvp 
Top dog in Rookie switched to a Bay/MoranT/SWHA/Biscuit/Jackal defense 
if there are hackers able to top SR ranks, there are hackers with tools that warn them when you hit them 
you can just vesti indom that guy... or DoT if you want to play something fun
hell don't even need to hack, there's third party tools that can do it from what we've seen 
the sp notification script? many people use that in global... probably cn
i have 2 people in my sp that attack at the moment after you attack them, and others that are 24/7 in the game, but since i'm retired, i don't care
Or desperados like Yuki
i have been trading ranks with one guy for like 1+ months and he finally changed teams so i have to do the same... only changed rounds, T3 to R1 and still 3 wins against different teams...
I ordered a second 144Hz monitor, since the 60Hz one I kept as my secondary looks so awful next to the new and shiny one 
Nope Noah burst will block your Scarlet burst dmg
just use vesti... i hate how easy is to win with her
it should work, enough time to kill noah and shwa
possible problems... helmT b3 and moran stall, a normal 2RL noah+biscuit and vesi win if you just kill noah and swha
against noah/swha comps you can also use rapu/soline and try to stun them to waste noah burst time (you have extra 3sec alive after enemy full burst) it doesn't work against vesti in the enemy team because the dmg is too high and can skip the 20% HP skill range (soline keep healing the units between 1~20%HP)
indom swha work all the time if the enemy team doesn't have biscuit to proc on moran
I dont know anything about hacking tools for sp arena but when you compete against people long enough, you get a sense of when they log in and tend to hit and when they sleep. This one guy knows exactly when i go to bed
ye some lads were talking about it some months ago in here
looked like an app of sort
StarSavior, turn based gacha, similar to HSR
the man's on a mission, don't judge 
being in ch ranks without several pvp core units must be wild
what da verdict boss?
too early to say, but gameplay, story, graphics for now are ok
pvp i'd need to get more info/experience to judge, if anything having both real time and "offline" pvp game mode is kinda interesting
Oh nice
swha blanc rh centi jackal will do, give tempering to swha and vigor to rh
jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit helmT if you wanna take the vestiTU route, although less advisable here than swha on 2 buffs
I hate real time pvp :9
it depends on the game and the time it takes
in this game most rounds are done within 30-60 seconds
so each session is actually fast enough

defense is a lost battle, the only way for it to have a chance is stacking it with the best synergies possible 
at that point your opponent at least needs to actually use their brain to beat those
btw @shell hazel i visited ur ship at like 4-5AM today, did you still get the assists or they're lost upon reset?
lost on reset it's so dumb
just make the assist work automatically
or at least carry over to next day
Hello chatterini
hi
hmph

i was gonna clean my room but its all laundry and
my dad is occupying the laundry rn
i GUESSSSSS i could move it over
im such a good daughter
you should buy me the libby gacha
mr money bags
Washer probably thought it was funny
washer can suck it
doesnt even work and thats the only job it has- call it the president of the united states the way that thing is useless
Alright breaks over. Goodbye chatterini
hes being mean to me rail
@gritty ridge
my shift instead ended an hour ago
gonna detach my brain and brainlessly play gacha until dinner
period
i need to get past mirror container, i can do it but the rng is killing me
dmg isnt the problem, surviving is sigh
believe in the me that believes in you
you got this
i can get to about 1k but then my libby or moran gets wiped out
tell them to do better
im getting about halfway before phase 2
so between like 1.5-1.2k
my moran isnt full 101010 so
but im tryna save electric books for anni
Hello, excuse me. If possible, I need some help on how to counter this team:
Scarlet OG (drunk) + Noah + Red Hood + Centi + Jackal
I've already tried to use same team, but the opposite team has 22k more CP and they deal more attack than my team (unfortunately I got spammed with Max Ammo stats)
What Nikkes do you have? Send a screenshot
@shell hazel dafuq... at the first x10??? what the f am i supposed to do with all the resources i had ready 
this is insane i never get so lucky in any gacha 
damn even 1st pull lol
i literally spent nothing, it was the x10 free tickets 
i might need to roll for the sake of getting the resources for her weapon tho, let's see
While you guys talk about new gacha games, I'm just here enjoying my singleplayer goodness
Just downloaded the Pragmata demo to test it out, since the full game is getting good reviews.
true first world issue
What game is this?
father/daughter simulator
the young lady is super cute
I will protect her with all my might
endfield
Ooooh, didn't recognize the lady
for that team run any anti nuke with DPS or indom
- jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit helmt (vestiTU tempering, helmT vigor)
- noah biscuit vestiTU helmT noise (tempering on vestiTU, noah, vigor on noise)
- noah biscuit SBS HelmT jackal (tempering on SBS, helmT, quantum on jackal)
...
I always wanted to be a girl dad, but since it will most likely never happen irl, dad simulator will have to do
you never know, we're very close to unlock humanoid androids, the step after the entire humanity knows what it will be
here, other units are just too weak (no OL gear, low skill levels and so on)
oh it's china server 
helm phase 2 s1 lvl 10?
yes, our nightmare
nightmare aka tencent rushing and draining us like no tomorrow
typical china, they love milking their preys
yes
i tried asking help on my server, but no success, people are being to shallow on explaining things
on your server?
nah they won't help
oh so chinese players are rather shy on helping others?
basically this: we do have some help, but it's generic and not everything is shared
well either way any of these teams will work fine, pick w/e you got more invested
and the necessary info i need, i do believe it's not being shared, example:
'use this comp, no need for biscuit'
but, trying blanc + biscuit really saved my ass multiple times, and then they came "ah, good good, i use this comp too"
Aaah! The MMR researcher and the fox lady!
@quartz rampart please can you ask this guy to join our discord for raids?
First time I see their mugshots xD
who dat
how did you even recruit him 
if i find them ingame, i can, but discord usually is blocked in our region, i'm only using it through VPN
I was thinking the EXACT same thing xD
what does his name say? 😄
it says "tav i'll defeat you one day"
Rip
then he gotta try harder
yup, got her LB recently ||while dreaming of getting jackal lb)||
@shell hazel either way this is seriously a problem, getting her so fast kinda killed the suspense
dafuq am i supposed to do now
will this be enough?
it's Tsukihime sequel
a man of culture

he's just trying his bestest ok
look at it! 
clearly he is VN reader, not gamer 
he cleared 2x2 blindfolded
in any case we can't reach em and they run bricked comps
it's basically the name of a game in japanese, Kagetsu Tohya, an expansion from Tsukihime
@shell hazel what happens if i don't find the weapon
it's basically enough isn't it? you def get the weapon in at most 8 x 10 pulls
which is 16K arsenal tickets
alright going in 
thank you very much, gonna try!
Guess it's the first time you experience catch-up because you are CN. 
HI3 catch up on global servers for example were much less generous than Nikke on CN servers. 
You got free units that's supposed to be gacha and hundreds of pulls as they rush each banners.
oh we thought it was CN guy but maybe it's JP guy
@shell hazel it's bayover, i gotta roll for getting the weapon 

just 800 of those thingies off so probably just a few
you could pull more on broccoli banner
@quartz rampart Do note that you have an easier time if you have phase 2 Helm (or was it 3?)
cn>jp, you can check 🤔
to get the arsenal tickets
phase 2, s1 lvl 10
it's left one

ye that's what i did, just did a x20
just a cn weeb then
By the way, I’m sorry to bother you all with more questions, but when exactly should I use the Tempering Cube in PvP?
I'm currently using it on Noah, but I feel like her performance isn't quite there yet. When I sought help from players in my region, their advice was a bit vague—it lacked the level of detail I’ve seen when players from global explained why the Vigor Cube is good for Blanc and other similar situations.
@shell hazel now to build her...
Now try to use these in your build. 
As soon as you can 😛
What are their kits btw?
yes, and i'm not liking it at all
in fact, i usually avoid playing AFK games exactly because of this kind of experience, but NIKKE managed to catch me and now i'm walking through this torture
I want
tempering on tanks for the most part, but also on main B3s that are exposed to damage, be it from splash or indirectly
for example say you've a water code in p1 you wanna run for indom purposes but you're against one or more elec sources, you'll want to throw tempering on her to get some extra DR (damage reduction), it will help keeping her alive
She a cutie
When no biscuit, P1 units, p5 units when you attack against SG or CA.
Moran team.
if it helps, she's basically a standard liberalio (can get the attack from the strongest attacker of your team)
here, let me share her kit, 1s
lad speaks english too well to be chinese, clearly a spy 
they're here to steal your panties @swift mango


twin tails is justice 
reminds me of rossi
You mean my sister's 
not gonna judge 
her best set is prob the new one you can make
dmg reduction scales better with more dmg reduction, HP scales worse with more HP.
If you have 15% dmg reduction, that 15% is worth 15% dmg reduction (85/100 = .85).
Then if you add 10% more dmg reduction, your new 10% is worth more than 10% dmg reduction (75/85 = .8823).
You can see from general math view too. 50% HP = +50% HP, 50% dmg reduction = +100% HP
yeah that's... gonna take a while, haven't even touched story yet 
yeah gotta do that
the story was good I liked it
every Nikke have dmg reduc from doll so tempering > vigor
here
Enhance even more!
HAHAHA, SORRY
Insert the "I want more" meme

it's ok im too busy staring at fangyi-chan
broccoli-chan
@hollow lagoon use your 25% Chinese to help rail.
moran still gonna be released, rn rosanna is the next unit
rosanna got a lot of staying power
china gonna need to deal with moran without vestiTU

who was the guys spreading that nonsense about dark skin girls not being added to CN again
was it Reddit
💀
ofc it must be reddit
i mean
it's always Reddit 
It's always Reddit or some other social media platform
@swift mango gist of it, seems like a julia treasure kit dupe
@shell hazel WHY IS SHE SO DAMN CUTE 
@quartz rampart You have her in your server?
@swift mango if you want to see my teams from my wins you can work it out from my vids 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuID4uc1-B8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazT3r4ZvG8
but as zanta says these are super old teams now
Gacha games have the cutest ladies
her smile 
Wait hold on what? When?
CA7 and CA12
we're on like 30? now
I didn't invest my pvp much in about half a year, like if at all actually

I won CA twice, zanta won it 3 times
(Nice btw)
27
also bro you not seen anything yet
the story features this and a lot more
there's a beach fanservice scene?
no I wish

but lots of broccoli moments
i shall hold hands.
A man who can beat booba, is this fairytale?
bears
beats
battlestar gallactica
booba
i want to say thank you all, for real
i was really having a bad time because sometimes in my server there's two users who even used to use my place at PVP to farm points to the point of one guy even spamming 20x runs in one day against me
rookie? let them. waste of gems
this team worked very well against one of them
rookie arena literally means nothing
You're not the first, and you won't be the last. You can always come here to ask questions
feel free to ask here whenever you're stuck @quartz rampart , unlike those chinese lads we don't mind helpin'
The real hero is @tropic summit
like, i'm neutral on PVP, i only fight 1x time each user
but some of them already spent 4k of gems against me, i'm not joking
I think you win there they wasting the gems
that's the normal behavior i'd expect on that server 
fragile ego probably rampant on there
@shell hazel where you farmin' essences for broccoli's weapon?
if it's the new areas it's gonna wait i guess
oh naruhodo
20x in one day is insanity
never understimate a chinese player ego
i agree
i even stopped writing here because i'm finally "relieved", because this situation was really killing me
like, we can't communicate with each other, but like i said, i try to be humble in PVP, 1x per user and only using the 5x free attempts and done
but my server, it's a fight even for the top place at Tower
everyday we receive boxes because the top player changed
and in rookie arena of all places 
yes, but i didn't invested on her
our server got a big delayed release of black/tan skin units
and is heavily censored, but we can remove the censor with the 'false' 'true' change
censor is cancer no matter where
example, alice in our server, she doesn't have the body skin suit, she has a jacket over her body and a small cap
can you show her? curious how they covered things
mustang drip looks good though as I recall?
Enjoyment... it only comes when someone else is suffering - mustang
Maybe they needed those Ele code and farm everyone x20 for points.

you were gemming in rookie too at first, you probably know best @swift mango
I gem before SpA even opened for me. New player just wanted to test my teams. 
oh that one
clearly 
@scenic hatch have you ever gem in rookie to buy Ele code?


big brain strat 
does CN have any gacha skins yet?
i've done this a lot. whales who joined the game late need to. you end up with so many more skill books than code books if you're buying the skill packs from events
yes, many, sometimes 2~3x at same time
Guess, even you aren't whale enough for that. 
@tropic summit 
tencent is rushing to the point that some of global events that had 20d, in here, only lasts around 10~15d at best
Chat i need a spa def 
i even gave up trying to read the story because too many stuff released in a short time and they don't follow a specific pattern apparently
our half-anni event was crown and now, our first anni, very likely seems to be cinderella
Kinda normal. I have seen worse.
cuz I'm day one
but I feel the most stressful period for me was when CA just launched and I had a lot units to invest their skills. Later after that period I started to build up buffer again from daily 5 hits and special arena (I buy 3 ele mats and 2/3 of the time that selector as well)
usually it's global chasing CN catch up speed
Yeah, that's why he was young and innocent
i dont even read any events now if its not tied to main story 
wish they would put the code books back in the skillbook pack. adding a few code books to the old console pack is one hell of a monkey's paw 
it's a bit pointless to try reading here, like, in the middle of rapi red hood even they released the same event as global, the 'good world'
many of us even joked saying: it's not even about money anymore, they want our souls at this point
yes
I suspect they want to catch up CN to global
yes, they want, and i don't see the point
which is like 3 years ahead 😄
easier for them
same events, units, everything lines up
you have more ele mats to buy these days, and cheaper, like the weekly one
i wish uma would rush global server just as much
i wanna play orfe and ebayan already man
You have a road map from Global server so you know which units to skip. Just skip them all. Only whale who pull core+7 suffer to be honest. Most of the old gen units are useless and CN F2P pleb should have skipped them all.
yeah benefit of some knowledge upfront there
actually cope for CSM/Re;Zero re-run is they may want to release in CN

still waiting for rezero rerun too
PUHLEASE BRO
CSM isn't even on their Collab list anymore. So you don't need to hope.

You know the procedure, send box and @tropic summit
It's fine i thought you guys would have some premades 
yeah, those add up to make a difference 
i've just been slowly shifting focusing to catching up with older players in consoles now and it's a slow, expensive push
so really wishing they added those 3 consoles per unit back to the event shop. by far the cheapest 3 consoles available 
Bruh don't send ben jamin gifs he is satan
The best premade def
If u got a key unit 0ol itll kinda instantly not work well
But tbh most reliable lately is swha moran bisc + vesti indom + cope
Apart from swha and vesti all other b3s are hard counterable, so its not easy to have that team defend
she charges too slow she can still die like slow cindy vs noah moran snow
or if priv stun or something
Why this word always doing this 
Think only time i'd ever want sw to burst is specifically to hit after noah
Main goal is just that she clears the dps/backline, then moran 1v3s the tanks including any cindy, as long as u have a level bracket advantage it most likely wont lose
Esp if u run trina to give moran extra hp
yea thats the issue she CAN die while charging and u wont kill any backline cuz she fires too slow
That team comp more a moran team than swha carry
Its just something you can abuse, esp if you see it on defense
seen so many people burst sw > helm etc.
i was mainly just thinking abt b3's specifically
Swha mostly just needs to shoot a third time to effectively wall anyone hitting up into ur team, she wont die if u have advantage
Its not really a rookie comp
thats just me opinion on snow as main b3 dps, like it feels like ur shooting urself in the foot if ur using her as b3
still good offburst dps and burst gen tho
U can definitely still soft counter swha and vesti but its not like you can block all their dmg basically
not like we have any other option asided from vesti anyway so lol
Its more just generally you have better value having another b3 burst doing instant damage while sw keeps off-burst damage, unless you have her as sole b3 imo
the only b3 with better value would be vesti
Unless she is specifically bypassing noah etc etc
helmt bursting is inferior to sw in same team
helm gives snow massive healing 
helm burst isnt even a dps shes just heal 
Idk situation where you need a charged SW shot to kill someone who wouldn't die by other means
Yeah so thats the specific example I gave where it is useable lol
Well specifically in mirrior charged shot sw can 1 hit Moran
even after moran burst?
When I’m 600sync and my opponents are 500 sync things kind of derp out
im asking cuz most moran teams i fight have biscuit which counters everything bar vesti
technically if you want strong sw with healing you just run ada as second b3 instead of helmt 
havent fought solo moran 2RL with snow main b3
Helm bursting into swha is fine for rookie but in sp u need her for t3 so its not a free win for opps
biscuit
Cindy, any
Ada snow is fine like @coarse lake , problem with running that is you no longer have Ada vesti
wrong ping?
Just run slow cindy comps, people don't know how to deal with them
but yea thats true im also running vesti ada
if you're running vesti ada then sw helmt, gl on your third team tbh 
I usually have helmt on 2rl nayu variant
xdd
Well thing is those ppl wont get past swha moran anyway
Its just overcommitting a team that alr wont lose
im running scar rosa 2RL for 3rd team so i can afford it its fine lel
Noah/Biscuit/Cindy/HelmT/Rumani?
Issue is main/common teams are already solved so takes 2 seconds for someone to feed counter teams anyways 
or rather i just have like whatever b3 left for moran snow team
like xmaiden, lib, even priv or whatever
Gotta just make up random slop so people get confused 
meta b3 for bay bisc sw is just xmaiden
technically helmt works fine too, but that's expensive
ye
U can just put rapunzel p1 and it will confuse people anyway
I don’t think electric units are saving anyone
she's prob gonna end up like rapipi, but without the insta snipe, but not bricked by 30 fps
if she hits all 5, then that's actually quite good
U run electric b3 u have fun with label
neon has no nuke anyway, doesn't matter, put it in a stall or indom and you good
label like 1/5 chance anyways 
label being meta in spa 
and neon should have lapt-tier gen, or at least maiden tier, so way better gen than rapipi
Neon can just be offburst battery like sw
Think still need to see kits
inb4 Anis breaks the game, literally
anis too many variables, whether her modes even work in pvp, and what the hell they mean by boosting survival capabilities
Her kit description seems dual purpose
Devs are known to randomly give pilgrim tier pvp niche just because
if you have to run anis as reenter in pvp, that's a brick
Where’s this
sky server
If she can add tank when re-enter you just slap her with moran for mega tank b1
In the stream was clearly shown the re enter is avistar
Anis could also just have sr anis gen
jp announcer guy said that anis is reenter, but depending on team formation she can become b1
The key point is along lines of her burst is determined by team formation or something
oh..
the condition is either having another reenter, or the team not having true b1
Maybe she reenter if u have another b1
meaning there is conditions where her burst will either buff atk or def
if it's the second, she'll be fine, as long as her b1 mode is good
uhmmmm....
it's prob her sustain mode, so depends on what it does, possible moran/noise sidegrade
Did u guys not watch the stream tho
also nah, shes mag RL its not looking good
I heard anis also has a proc, if so at least maiden/lapt tier
Think key will be explosion size prob
They both have stupid rl aoe
Even if not clip can be big gen
Or can be like swha where the kit just gives stupid gen
neither have super good gen
the bar barely filled from both their shots landing while with grave buff
so the base is def standard rl tops
it's up to the aoe size and proc, neon does have proc regardless, so I expect her to be maiden tier gen worst case
I mean if they don't give gen we can just single copy and skip for summer 
depending on proc type, lapt tier if good proc type, insane gen if also 3 enemies in pvp
anis I only heard from ppl, lemme check her myself
or matis squad 🙏
maxwell save us
Or rezero rerun 
yeah anis has proc, at least in b1 mode with avistar
at least xmaiden then
so prob maiden tier gen minimum, unless single target aoe like cindy kekw
Ya it mostly depends how it translates to pvp plus their kit
inb4 half the kit "when not used in pvp" 
the fact they're both RL makes them promising
I was expecting one of them to be iron tho and be decent for pvp
but they could easily butcher them both
at least they ain't wind kek
Label truly awful unit design
elec isn't the worst ele to have
we don't know if they'll be multi element either yet
elec sucks cuz label exists now but same time snow and helm r meta water units sooooooo
neon I think should have good splash dmg, based on raw multis better than lapt, but has label issue
yea elec not too bad for pvp still
but as long as she's good in indom she'll be fine
iron needs a lot tho
neon starts fight at full charge power, so shouldn't suffer unless there's pve specific clauses
anis gen could be insane
after she fired 1 shot, almost charged second shot, no bursts yet
3 procs showed up, with a star thingy visual going from her, might be sw-type followup (nvm I think it's her second shot)

in 5 mins

one kit tomorrow at the earliest, otherwise wednesday
xdd
It come when it come

yeah anis gen prob same as neon, 1 followup proc
Probably need to see their kits to know if they usable in flex slots
anyone know if lapt in this situation would proc once or twice
hitting a part + main body so 2 main hit instances
would it be 2 followups or still 1 followup
fingers crossed

u mean the 3rd dmg line is just the aoe hitting the part?
then it really is just 1 extra dmg proc
yeah
but if lapt still procs a second time on that part, then that means anis proc type is xmaiden style
but I don't think I got a boss I can test lapt on rn for that
oh lemme try indi claws
oh that's not good, lapt procs twice
so anis gen is xmaiden gen most likely, not any higher
still reasonable as a b1 and may offer some other good stuff
actually maiden is also st proc
if anis proc is aoe, it's a bit higher than xmaiden
I think old lapt gen (pre-recent buff)
but if she works as standalone b1 and gives good sustain or buffing, she could easily be noise/moran tier, esp since higher gen than them
👀
1 Neon missile + 1 Anis shot + whatever scraps you get from Grave + Avistar is around 30% gauge on boss before Lib procs land, and that's with double burst gen on boss so it doesn't look that impressive
honestly Lib was carrying the burst gen 
avistar is MG
mg+grave=big gen i think?
after Lib procs all land bar is like 75%
Grave burst gen buff not live on first burst
she has to go into overheat mode after first FB end
so all the gen is base gen
Neon fires 2 missile in the time other RL/SR shoot once but she seem more like Pascal, each missile don't have good burst gen
the bar goes from 30%>75% in less than 1s so that's not enough time for 2nd shot, it's basically all Lib proc diff
Neon gets 1 more missile, that's it
Anis B1 also don't have team buff, at least with Avistar 
so I think solo B1 survival buff not the case
seem like dps mode
Has anyone leveled Noah past 4/4/4?
@umbral crown
full 10s is the norm
but at low sync you can just play with 4s and base OL
Nuh uh

7/7/7
7/5/7 here, might go for 10/7/7 at some point, but gains aren't that huge 
I think im 7 7 4
burst is for sure feels like most useless one, can be kept at 4-5 because it's still relatively cheap 
that is because DEF is just a bad stat for how the dmg work, too much atk numbers and buff, but the base DEF is really low to make a difference, unless you are moran and stack all the DEF you want
- the value of DEF change a lot depending on team, unit, class, OL and buff to affect the atk number
So you're saying endurance cube is worthless?
and how weird is that different weapons have different base DEF in the same class
DEF cube? it is good, but not many units or players have the stats to use that cube, tempering is just better
happen the same with assist cube, you need units that have high HP stats, can tank or have some sort of healing to make for the time they proc again the cube
I unlocked it and put it on noise and noah, because the 36% def seemed better than the 1.59% charge speed from adju
if you don't need cs, your highest lv cube work, DEF cube is fine if you don't have vigor or tempering
I think mine is all 10 
besto shieldo
i would give noah a treasure, just because you can buy her dupes in the shop
shield the team for 60 seconds
higher atk% reduction debuff work, more passive buff, partial elemental dmg reduction for her...
Can live with 7/7/7 on old units until u have opportunity to invest more
Just because some of these units skill levels dont scale too heavily
@tropic summit noise still hasn't been in shop, shiftup hates me
it's your fault, you're not asking for her enough
buy a skin for @keen smelt and she'll happen
run these, you're on the left
T2 (the one with rosanna) is throwaway, if you don't have rosanna slot label/liter and shift to nayuta drakeT vestiTU swha label/liter
you really think @unique mountain needs MY help to build his own teams? noway 
rich ppl issues 


Of course, 10/10/10max doll max core

Indeed besto shieldo
Not using boxes
Last i checked 608 
Dunno, thats gap is doable
Atp we're just waiting for Anniv kits today
I'm not her biggest fan, but if she has PvP use I'll pull
And since they're Electric, prob will help beating MC
Imagine if her skill is to ignore Label's debuff
Pull regardless,its besto T. T.Anis
I'm more curious about Neon
my dude, is this 703 leviathan really losing to you? he still hitting me 4-5 times a day
yeah Eon got thrown in my rookie bracket, he's always been in my SP
he's really hyperinvested in pvp units

but that guy has 500k on him
I'm not as invested, he has like 6 months of play time on me
yeah I dont think I can lol
Eon maybe can find a way
I dont know what would beat that comp
if I put biscuit in I lose a lot

Siren Blanc SWHA 2RL
maybe when I spike after doing story chapters, sitting on a lot of boxes since I'm done with hard campaign
but he probably is too
we buddies
we just don't hit each other
so he can just gem a few times to get more points
Time to send messages
so he just has a grudge against me then
you sure it's not just bc you're in 3rd
I would even test, and he will wait to 12:59 if I wait to hit
like he will sit there and wait
bc I just hit whoever is 3rd at the time of hitting, but I do put a cap of 3 hits max on each person a day

maybe he's mad I havent given up every tower yet
Waos, im not like that anymore
its done
I just afk rookie
my team is siren proofed 
for NANA to get kicked back out of our bracket on reset
I want to go back to getting challenger 3
get a load of this guy @tropic summit
pvp life is over for me if nana leaves sp
Soda it is then
I need nana for testing, widu cp too high and invests too low
I want my 300 gems
your pvp invests aren't good enough to be my testing buddy I assume right? you don't seem to get very far in ca
was planning to go casual but I've been able to stave off infusion and make CA every period of this reset
I'm not hyperinvested in PVP no, just enough to make CA
only advanced twice
infusion from the few times I've seen his teams from someone else beating me, seems decent, but also doesn't go very far
he is much more invested but he is behind me in hard campaign so my growth exceeded him
I'm gonna 621 spike on 3.5
that sentence out of context would be wild 
@umbral crown keep your thing at bay 


I think the max core bay guy would have something to say about that 
supposedly starts wednesday morning and comes up at 6 PM PST
I wont be tempted to play on company time 
Just do it during lunch
it wont be up until after dinner
do your campaign... 
Maint 23
So Kit will be Today and Tomorrow
When i hit 541 gonna have a meeting with gluttony
Moran laughs as Gluttony is helpless to kill anyone
Gluttony before snek?
snek 36, gluttony 38
Ah
you already erased it from your mind due to PTSD

Snek was ez


I bet moran trivializes snek too
Snow white moran

Back in my day. Scalter or sdoro with anchor

The bread 
I couldnt keep SBS alive so I mildly invested her to beat it
With helm and privaty
if you think about it, it's pretty crazy that it take nearly 2 years to entirely clear HM in this game (assuming F2P)

ppl in a year, unless they reduce CP requirements, will take even longer 
2023 1st december. I’m on ch 42
with Moran treasure, its a whole new era of low clearing
But honestly. I need to push 
ye isabel told you the same thing yesterday night




'bout time you reacted 
Im so ready for snake

August is 2 years for me, so I'd imagine f2p take longer. goalpost moves from 44 to 46 after patch

Kid named hard 46

wait
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this overclock season is
idk how ur supposed to beat iy
i guess u go into multiple teams
power of friendship 
but tis just so very cancer
throw your entire roster at it 
cant not enough invested iron units
yes my roster is enough
so i say fk dis shiet bruhhhh
i'mma keep using posidon anyway
Beatable? Im thinking t1 skip t2 run my own nayu rh with lm and t3 swha indom?
Thats how I usually beat moran noah teams but they have biscuit too so idk could be tricky
I can also try t1 with a slower indom maybe
What does this mean? Doesn't her 60% TD come from her B3?
When absolute is used together they get this teamwide buff and it includes TD so thats prob what it is
I never see anyone use absolute in sp though. Maybe they do on offense, not sure
Noah 
is a mix of CP and good teams no one wanna super invest in Absolute team except for Vest T
This may be the most insane PVP match Ive had yet.
Triple full burst in 1 round with 40s delay b1 moran in the 3rd match to win 
Also I threw with vesti into swha indom I kinda forgot ada gives lifesteal oops 
But that 3rd team winning when I just threw some stuff together is really funny
Currently rebuilding, the two attack teams are team 1 and 2. Any recommendations for the last team
who's linked in T1 also anis with indom teams is generally a poor choice
the other team is fine
although you'll want situationally a biscuit instead of RH
just to be clear bot teams are way better than top teams, although as mentioned above you'll need to bench anis and check links, also the utilities used in there are poorly invested so consider other burst gen options
Sorry dont quite understand i just copied the teams from the big comment and it said to use any clip rocket launcher for the team 1 last slot. Any suggestions for the last team
the suggestion would be good if it actually considered your invest and CP in the equation though
it's pointless to run a meta team with units that are not invested, because your perfomance will actually drop
My units are 4/4/4 with doll will it suffice
For the offmeta that is the rest at invested for raids
hell no skills aren't all you need... you need 4OL pieces and ideally R15 or SR5 doll
CP matters a lot in pvp, you can't run that without being punished
top teams are bad because slow or abusable, bot teams are bad because one of the two is running poorly invested units
I see then ill OL the rest and get their dolls then how about for team 3
would need to see your roster, can you post similarly to what you did before?
reference: #pvp-arena message
Its changed a bit but i essentially have every character
I can't make linked alice indom
that doesn't tell us anything, need to see units ordered by invest
Can build whoevers needed
yes and no, depending on what you've your plan will change and can be wasteful or resourceful, post your box for optimal directions 
she's self sustain, you'd need your linked unit to also get healed or be very high in HP 
I can't
Cause it's rosanna 
get moran linked and you could achieve indom alice 
you're expecting a lot out of rosanna 
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