pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

or if you've trina available

then swap trina for rumani in T1 and run rumani in T2

since they're clip RL they can be interchanged

label is also flex unit in T3, so if you've got a laplaceT/emilia or similar around use that

[charred wedge]

im pretty sure hes about to hit in the next 2 hours. Will report back boss 😎 👍 thanks a lot

[tropic summit]

in T2 ensure vestiTU has lower HP than RRH, give RRH vigor in case, everything else should be fine with what above, no problemo good luck

[glacial hatch]

Man i need help beating this team

[swift orbit]

Thank you very much

[lost ether]

dam rough if u dont have og rosanna build well cuz she would be perfect

[chrome badge]

Blanc SWHA RH Biscuit HelmT

[next sage]

Bro I need help for Pvp please

[swift mango]

[undone blaze]

I've been trying to get ely gloves for the past 2 weeks

0 luck

Then I do a 10 pull, 2 ssr but just og arcana and dupe liter

Wheres my snow white and morans

[umbral crown]

on standar banner

[undone blaze]

Yes

[covert lintel]

Can i win this

[swift mango]

Pretty sure I would win. This guy teams are worse than Puppad and not partly counter mine like him.

[swift mango]

Is Makima linked in this team?

[covert lintel]

No, i think emma would be linked

But 1m cp diff

[swift mango]

30% deficit. Maybe move Vesti to p3-4 but I still don't think you could win, maybe could try if you had 100% Ele 40% AtK Vesti or sth.

[covert lintel]

Rip, my besti has balanced stat

[umbral crown]

[lost ether]

19 cs is crazy on besti vesti

i got some ok stat on her for but im not sure if i should exchange those for more cs

[gritty ridge]

Not 12/12? Fix it

[crystal flicker]

You dont need charg/crit D

[covert lintel]

Change critical to cs

[lost ether]

so much rockss....

[covert lintel]

Ignore charge dmg or you'll be bleeding so much

[gritty ridge]

Your vesti should look like this smh

[covert lintel]

Rerolling 3rd line only is like jumping from 50floor

[lost ether]

surely rerolling the 1st line is easier....

[cursive storm]

Dang, I always find the 3rd one first using only 1 stone lol

Then finding the rest 1 & 2 by locking the 3rd before

[raven plover]

people be flexing their strong besti

[formal quiver]

@umbral belfry

[lost ether]

[umbral belfry]

oh wait me next

thanks 2d

[lost ether]

she need that much ammo?

[swift mango]

1000 rocks?

[wild hemlock]

[umbral belfry]

IN MY DEFENSE I was about to sleep

this is 2d's fault

[umbral belfry]

I am a ammo believer who thinks 2 ammo is good (but I also use her in campaign so I want ammo)

[swift mango]

I don't think I could get this with 1000 rocks.

[lost ether]

u missing a few 0

[swift mango]

Yeah 1 0

[raven plover]

2 ammo gang (I was planning to get 1 ammo but reroll got me black ammo, might as well keep )

[swift mango]

yes, if she is indomed she would need this much. I assume hime vest is 20 ammo. it's the perfect number for pve and arena

[quick lake]

what the whale hime

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-17474838830648097856

I have 22 but 1 ele

[swift mango]

17-18 ammo is kinda enough but 20 ammo in case of slower speed than 2rl and it's multiple of 4

[umbral belfry]

am f2p

[umbral belfry]

19

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-genshin-impact-f2p-f2pbtw-gif-20299307

[umbral belfry]

granted I could reroll ammo and cs line but not a priority rn

[crystal flicker]

Are you gonna cosplay Arcana, Hime?

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

missing a bit I guess

[umbral belfry]

soon tm

surely the game blesses me with blue or black ammo

[crystal flicker]

I've lost plenty of CA match ups coz VesT goes Reload when Indom ended lol

[umbral belfry]

this is why you become an ammo believer

[raven plover]

[swift mango]

She would need a 73% line or tier 12 ammo at least to be 20 ammo.

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

Oh wait, tier 11 is enough. My bad

68.93 is barely enough to round up to +6 ammo

Ammo works similar to CS. Round up lines of same tier then sum up.

[umbral belfry]

do I care enough to go back to rock hell for a single ammo

maybe one day

[swift mango]

0.6893*8=5.5144. barely +6 ammo.

[lost ether]

wouldnt vesti indom be stun by a siren?

[swift mango]

yes but unless you put vesti p1 siren won't live to stun her

[quick lake]

More rocks come soon pls

[crystal flicker]

CA gave rocks

[quick lake]

That would be fun. Would throw more rocks at pvp

[keen vapor]

F2P btw

[swift mango]

yeah you don't need 20 for Arena I guess.

[swift mango]

which name?

[covert lintel]

super besti

[raven plover]

[rich quail]

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-elf-buddy-the-elf-throne-of-lies-christmas-gif-1174038786188830953

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-want-cokie

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/explain-confusion-wait-a-minute-wait-what-gif-20438126

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/charlie-day-charlie-kelly

[worldly osprey]

my hidden buff will carry you

[humble tiger]

@tropic summit I have a new 4D chess move.

Constantly cycling my defense team just to throw my attackers off.

And no, it's not just about moving T1, T2, and T3 around.

Actually moving units around, making different teams each day.

[tropic summit]

that's what you should already be doing, except your archetypes will always be mostly glass cannons

you need to unlock anti nuke and nuke resistance units asap

and be able to run your own indom

regardless do what works

https://klipy.com/gifs/todd-howard-it-just-works-1

[humble tiger]

Yeah. It still throws them off when they use their "counter" on a slightly changed team and suddenly it stopped working.

Goddammit. This is so tiring.

I try to maintain the

2RL
2.5 RL
2.5 RL

Structure of my teams.

But sometimes I end up with 2 2.5 and 3.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/do-your-best-anime

[humble tiger]

Where tf is my Rumani? At least I'll have an actual B1 with high burst gen instead of using RRH.

Then I can have two 2RL and a 2.5 RL.

[humble tiger]

Can you make me a few?

I suck at teambuilding so I just slap anything and hope it's actually the right RL.

[tropic summit]

post your box, probably can

[humble tiger]

Damn. This is super sad.

[tropic summit]

glass cannons and pseudo stalls are easy to make

[humble tiger]

The SG team actually won lmao.

[tropic summit]

losing 2-3 pretty gud all considered

you're still missing so many pvp core units

[humble tiger]

At least I'm actually getting them, instead of just dupes galore. God I hate this game. I'm slowly being reminded why I ditched this game for 21 months.

[gaunt pulsar]

or be like me, have most of the pvp units, change def's each day, and still lose from the first try on def

[swift mango]

I mean you hard counter him

[humble tiger]

Oh. Didn't know that.

Still not used to team archetypes.

I was told several times to build a Rosa SG team.

Soon maybe.

[tropic summit]

here's 2 variants that cycles a few logics

it also uses most of your invested units while keeping a degree of speed and threat

[humble tiger]

I'll keep it along with the ones I built. Too bad no 2RL.

[swift mango]

5 SG can actually win against many different team so long as they aren't blocked.

They don't even need to burst to win. I lost against it more than once.

[tropic summit]

competent bracket? or just gapperoni whels?

[gaunt pulsar]

either that or someone helps, whale on c1 only, others are fine

[tropic summit]

well doesn't help that nowdays there are way too many attack tools and always less and less def tools

defending against a vestiTU indom team and a noah-biscuit archetype... it's hell

[humble tiger]

The real best defense is a gapped one.

[tropic summit]

let's see... you'd need at least 2 teams that:

• resist or deny nuke
• resist or mitigate indom
• resist or mitigate rosanna
• resist or mitigate absolute/sacc/early aggresion
• resist stalls
• is siren immune
• doesn't have vulnerable chain
• is SG resistant
• is SR resistant
• resist slow cindy/liberalio
• cannot be gapped

yeeeeah, not gonna happen

[gaunt pulsar]

considering he used Moran Noah Biscuit SWHA Helm.T and Jackal VestiTU xMaiden Blanc Ada on def - could've used the same on attack, I think that's enough to be a problem to def against if he knows where to send them not sure what his attack now
but it's fun

[tropic summit]

oh ye, those 2 are one of the strongest teams on both sides

def is cooked

[unique wagon]

One more burst gen unit and Im set

[humble tiger]

How many units do I need to fulfill all those?

Honestly, you can just blame me for saving gems instead of pulling on why I have very few units.

[tropic summit]

the short answer is that, even if you had all the units in the game, you'll never achieve an unbeatable def

although having a lot of units gives you a lot of options to attempt throwing off less competent pvpers

[humble tiger]

Yeah. But I'd like a defense that can actually last for like 3 days.

[gaunt pulsar]

called credit card

[tropic summit]

3 days is a lot, 2 attempts maybe

[humble tiger]

Yeah that's the extent of my defense.

[gaunt pulsar]

depends on bracket really, on players you with, on their dedication and desire to keep fighting, some might not want to trade attacks with you after a while and you get to sit comfortably, but gl finding those

[surreal fable]

How else can I beat this def? I'm getting rng loses with these 2 comps

[tropic summit]

do you've a rosanna?

single B3, on blue doll and water code, it's screaming to get rosanna'ed

[crystal flicker]

Yeah Rosa beat that everyday

[tropic summit]

looks punishable also with p3 hitters and scarlet in case you're rosanna-less

[surreal fable]

I do but she's not invested, I got her quite late

Same for og scarlet and trina

Was scarless for 2.5 years

[tropic summit]

is she 7/10/10 4OL with a bit of atk%/ele atk or far off from that?

[surreal fable]

Faaaaaar from that

[tropic summit]

emilia and vestiTU are built?

[surreal fable]

Yep, but not as built as others

[tropic summit]

built as in? 4OL with 20-30%atk?

[surreal fable]

Lemme check lines

4OLs for sure

[crystal flicker]

You want Rosa for long run

[tropic summit]

alternatively i'm thinking you could stall with noise bay biscuit helmt swha

that thing should also struggle against moran biscuit

blue doll swha probably not invested might be punishable with ultra stalls

[surreal fable]

Mine is sr15

Sometimes ein can't kill blanc

So my shot ran out

[tropic summit]

run w/e is most invested among these:

• noise bay biscuit helmt swha
• moran helmt swha noah biscuit
• scarlet vestiTU emilia trina jackal

[surreal fable]

T2 is most invested

[tropic summit]

oke worth a shot, record the match just in case so we can min/max if needed

[surreal fable]

Bay is lb0, I never got her built

[tropic summit]

moran tempering
helmt tempering
swha tempering
noah tempering
biscuit vigor

[surreal fable]

I get 1 hit to use

Going in

Uh

Its a win

Okay it was sent

It failed sending twice

I thought blanc always wins vs noah

[tropic summit]

outsustained... good thing that SWHA is poorly built, some units were still close to die

[surreal fable]

And they burst slower too

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit this might be a bit vague question, but in your opinion, what kind of team would you rather use Nayuta in?

[surreal fable]

[arctic jewel]

Specifically in CA

[tropic summit]

any 2RL nayuta with siren resistance and RH/label B1

label adds value because you'll win against scarlet matchups

[surreal fable]

For t3 wouldnt vesti just insta die?

[tropic summit]

not instant, you'd still land her initial barrage, combined with emilia and scarlet proccs, those would be likely lethal on blue doll SWHA

[arctic jewel]

That's exactly the answer I was looking for

The thing is, I still think that my Scarlet team is really weak

But what's annoying is that Nayuta is kinda nice in SG teams

[tropic summit]

depends on what kind of scarlet you running

Scar-soda-trina and rapunzel-scar-soline are the realistically only decent variants

[surreal fable]

So I need to prepare in case he gets smarter

This is everyone I have

[tropic summit]

what are you looking for? a rookie def team?

[arctic jewel]

Ugh... maybe I should go back to Soda, I'm just not a big fan of it. Although I did try Rapunzel recently, I just feel like I want to use Helm in a Nayuta (this is the reason why I asked the question)

[tropic summit]

nayuta + helmT is fine

nayuta likes being natural 2RL with a bit of CS%

[surreal fable]

Just a way to beat that def comp

Cos that dude is annoying

[tropic summit]

ye but you already got one
if he changes it you'll adapt again with something else

[arctic jewel]

I'm currently using Helm in my Rapunzel/Scarlet team, which... the more I think about it kinda sucks

[tropic summit]

bench rapunzel, run scar-soda and use helmt in nayuta

[surreal fable]

I mean, I almost died to his smhw. If he gets sr15 I'll be dead

Can I ask for a sp arena or rookie def then?

[tropic summit]

then start building rosanna so you can punish that

[surreal fable]

I'll consider her after anis/neon

Need to pour resources on them for raid

Rosanna just needs sr5 4OL 7/10/10 right?

Or maxed gears?

[arctic jewel]

Rosanna needs to be highly invested to make sure that she does her job

sr15 is recommended

And like 40% ish atk

[surreal fable]

No need for ele lines?

[arctic jewel]

Well, they definitely help a lot

So it's a yes

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta centi helmt rh drakeT
• moran noah privT swha biscuit
• jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc lib

Rookie

nayuta helmt swha drakeT RH

highly suggest you build up your emilia and ada, together with rosanna

noah vestiTU jackal would also like extra CP

[surreal fable]

I see centi, does she need ti2?

[arctic jewel]

@surreal fable Sorry for butting in to your convo xD

[tropic summit]

no, absolutely don't treasure centi

[surreal fable]

It helped

[arctic jewel]

Yeah, that seems to be the play... now I just need to redesign my SG team... maybe?

[tropic summit]

SR5 or SR15
7/10/10
20-40%atk
20-40%ele atk

if the above are met, she's usable in most cases, as long as you help her out reducing a bit the HP of your target first

[tropic summit]

SG team is really simple

bsoda drakeT noir then throw a rosanna and an optional B2

[surreal fable]

Thank you both!

[arctic jewel]

I was more or less thinking what I should replace Nayuta with

[tropic summit]

you can run viper or a spare B2 of any kind if you wanna keep nayuta

[arctic jewel]

But I guess it doesn't matter?

[tropic summit]

ideally something that helps you snowball

SGs teams want to finish the battle within 2.5RL

[arctic jewel]

🤔

[tropic summit]

finish the battle meaning you killed off the enemy DPS sources

or killed their kit

(e.g. killing a noah or a noise)

[arctic jewel]

I'll figure something out... or not, by waiting when I can use more Nikkes

[tropic summit]

anchorIM, brid, arcana, naga, xanne

surely you've at least 1 B2 of the above

[arctic jewel]

Thinking about Brid or XAnne

[tropic summit]

better going brid imo

extra snowballs

[arctic jewel]

Brid is an interesting choice, didn't @hollow lagoon use her?

[tropic summit]

these all combo well with early aggresion and SG teams

[hollow lagoon]

[arctic jewel]

Also makes Liberalio weaker lel

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-pepe-the-frog

[arctic jewel]

Anyway, it will take a while for me to get these Nikkes upgraded

And by the time, who knows how good the new Anis is in PvP

That's why I haven't used many Maintenance kits recently

[tropic summit]

she'll be gud

[arctic jewel]

Certainly in where she is right now ^^

@tropic summit Since I still need to do some "research", may ask for the sauce so I can learn?

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit better comp to win R1 with? Biscuit sniperooni

[tropic summit]

sauce: https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/10493626

[tropic summit]

noah noise helmt vestiTU biscuit

biscuit doesn't like taking dmg from laplaceT (ele weakness)

[shell hazel]

so same but move biscuit?

[tropic summit]

the archetype is correct for that matchup

moran rumani lib helmt noah also works

or noise rumani cindy helmt noah

you actually don't generally need biscuit to survive

as long as you're on noise or moran B1

ideally the taunter should survive so you mitigate nayuta palms dmg

[shell hazel]

thanks Rail 🙂

do you think all 3 are beatable here?

the indom indom match wins because it's a better indom

[arctic jewel]

R1 as in round 1 or game 1?

[shell hazel]

Round 1

[tropic summit]

T2 is expensive but doable with slow cindy/lib or a moran/noise siren cindy flex flex archetype

you'll need to play it smart on T1 and T3 to make up for the units you use in T2 but should be doable

[shell hazel]

else we can just keep focus on winning 2 matches fine

it's a union mate

[tropic summit]

T3 has blanc in p3... you could punish with scar-vesti

although it would be riskier

@hollow lagoon

[arctic jewel]

Man

I'm so sad

[shell hazel]

🍌

[arctic jewel]

Shifty whyyyyyyy you only an April Fools character?! 😭

[tropic summit]

RRH keeps losing to blue haired grills

[summer copper]

isn't that the wrong Anis?

[tropic summit]

in that specific pic ye, looks like OG anis

the art was made during the aprils fool event

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-pufferfish-pufferfish-cat-fish-catfish-gif-9997139051265883971

[tropic summit]

[arctic jewel]

Catfish

https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/2043320007686533322

Injun King (@Injun_king)

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[shell hazel]

@tropic summit doesn't rumani p2 risk mis-indom?

Jackal Rumani VestiTU Blanc ClipRL (2RL)
Jackal Rumani VestiTU Blanc Ada (2RL)
Noah Centi VestiTU Helm.T RH (2RL)
Jackal VestiTU xMaiden Blanc LaplaceT (2.3RL)```

if rumani eats too much splash damage

[tropic summit]

if you distributing on p1 and p3, it's generally unlikely

[quick lake]

Happens sometimes, depends opponent in my experience

[shell hazel]

isn't swapping vesti/rumani a better option then to reduce the risk?

[tropic summit]

sure rumani should be p3, flex spot for xmaiden

jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc ada
jackal vestiTU rumani blanc ada
jackal indom flex flex linked

[shell hazel]

that is in the pins my friend was asking about it

I'd typically do flex to p3 yeah

[tropic summit]

they should avoid using wind code flex or blanc in p3 if anything

[shell hazel]

this might need updating then? #pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

when you got time @quick lake

[quick lake]

updated

[shell hazel]

hmm is it? I don't see the update

unless it's discord being dumb

[quick lake]

oh just did. didnt press enter

[shell hazel]

looks good 🙂

arigatou!

[upper harbor]

Any direct counter to this? Old mate just started mirroring my team but his stats are better

Just for rookie

[shell hazel]

indom moran?

[quick lake]

Moran Noah HelmT SWHA Biscuit

or just rosanna if built

[upper harbor]

Ill give it a crack, cheers. Prolly should build my Rosanna

[upper harbor]

Yeah if that's the team name for it. SW gets the blanc indom if thats what are asking?

[shell hazel]

blanc indom usually goes to lowest hp unit

[upper harbor]

ye

[shell hazel]

in this case that should be moran

[upper harbor]

Biscuit prevents the hp loss before their burst. so p3 gets it

So I should try slower?

[shell hazel]

but biscuit only stops them losing hp at like 50%

what is hitting p3 to get p3 below moran?

[upper harbor]

I shouldve recorded my past attempts 🤦‍♂️ Ill check my recent one tho

[shell hazel]

if you ran vesti into it I could see it

[upper harbor]

Yea that was a vesti attempt. The other attempt was swapping sw and helmt burst to outlive which didnt work.

[shell hazel]

vesti can hit p3, else I would expect a weird moran indom thing

if you wanted to try to kill blanc you could leverage scarlet counters + vesti that is a p2 blanc, might finish her off before she can b2

[upper harbor]

Now you lost me, scarlet counter like label?

[shell hazel]

scarlet does counter damage when hit

my rosanna can kill herself on scarlet counters

blanc is AR so it's possible that + vesti will nuke her early

[arctic jewel]

That's... an interesting team

[shell hazel]

I make no assurances

no one in my rookie runs that team

[arctic jewel]

Why use Moran in a Blanc team?

[upper harbor]

I was using that team to counter the vesti team which was working, so then I just ran that as def. Been working out pretty well.

[arctic jewel]

Is it possible to run Rosanna here?

[shell hazel]

their ros not built they said

[arctic jewel]

Oh, missed that

[upper harbor]

Thanks. We trade 1 hit a day so I'll wait till tomorrow to test. Least I got 2 teams to try now.

Will ping ya with results, can rec vid if you want.

[shell hazel]

there will be other options too I'm sure, let us know how it goes 🙂

yup good stuff thanks!

[covert lintel]

Jackal besti blanc vs nayu absolute i wonder which will win?

[shell hazel]

i'm derping out actually @upper harbor don't run my team

blanc is protected by biscuit so also can't kill her unless you one tap

I'd just run a slower indom prob

maybe this

[swift mango]

I mean Noah is basic pointless against enemy SWHA.

But lets hope they indom on Helm

[crystal flicker]

Get Rosa ready after anniv, she'll make your life easier

[upper harbor]

Understood, happy to test that out, slower indom was a thought. Its a little more difficult to theory test since we don't attack more than once. So figured I'd check here for a more solid plan. Appreciate it!

[upper harbor]

I can build her now

But saving for anni

[shell hazel]

save for anni

[crystal flicker]

Ye I said after anniv

[upper harbor]

Toss up I would like a nice counter, but anni

[shell hazel]

btw I voted for you but the vote is not in your favour

I voted for you for power of friendship reasons

[crystal flicker]

It's normal lol

[shell hazel]

good luck 🙂

[upper harbor]

What's the Rosanna recommended comp for the counter?

[swift mango]

Jackal Linked Rosa with enough Ele. 2rl team with feed at less. Scarlet could be the b3.

SR to make them indom on Helm.

If you wanted to use Noah, better use 3rl-4rl team if possible.

Rapu p1 then Scar-trina it. 2rl team.

A 2-3 buff blanc team at 3-4rl speed.

[swift mango]

This team could actually work. Depend on his ammo though. Could make it slower.

[upper harbor]

Thanks for the plan. When you say SR to indom on helm. How do you work out if you have enough damage to get that last position down enough?

I was running sw and helm too. they should both hit p5?

[swift mango]

yes. Could Add RH into the mix.

[upper harbor]

Will moran taunt everyone to shoot her?

I actually dont know the mechanics for her really lol

[swift mango]

Only after she burst. The purpose is to deal enough dmg on helm before they burst

[upper harbor]

gotcha

[swift mango]

So you could actually win with the mirror. Just put Vigor on helm to be sure you aren't misindom as well.

[upper harbor]

Ah okay, didn't think about that. I was just quantum for all the burst genners. But yeah sounds like a good plan.

[hollow hazel]

how can I beat this person? thanks. my first team won but the other two got destroyed lol

[covert lintel]

Nayu absolute is stronger

[shell hazel]

thanks for the credits

[umbral belfry]

@short moon yippie

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

Made it top 16

[shell hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

[glad meteor]

not looking good

[glad meteor]

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

[umbral belfry]

[covert lintel]

The usual champion all lost
You will most likely be a champion now

[raven plover]

the rule of our bracket if fahren not winning, koy wins

[covert lintel]

Or maybe @karmic smelt will finally get a champion

[swift mango]

@worldly osprey

See, easy. Only in fight 4 their higher level matter to help Libby survive to land her nuke. The rest they just lose.

[karmic smelt]

No way didn’t even change my team from last time

[short moon]

Too strong 😭

[raven plover]

finally

[karmic smelt]

At this point getting a lost at finals for me beats getting a champion lol

[umbral belfry]

Ace told me he hopes i lose ca 😭

pie betrayal

[karmic smelt]

Cause losing at finals 3 times gets much more attention than winning once

[covert lintel]

How come

*0 libby can't survive
ig she needs at least mlb like rapun so she can survive with bay

[short moon]

He's just being tsundere he probably low key cheering

[umbral belfry]

LMAO @clear folio

[placid bloom]

tell him he gonna get 5-0 by Bigboi

up and coming CA champion

[umbral belfry]

he can't get 5-0 by anyone now

as long as a pie wins

[swift mango]

Finally Hime anti-simp.

@hollow lagoon watch and learn

[hollow lagoon]

@umbral belfry

[swift mango]

Me losing final 3 times but no one remembers because it won't be shown.

[karmic smelt]

Why not

[swift mango]

The chart only shows me winning champ 3 times.

[karmic smelt]

Ours shows

Maybe you got too many 1 time champions in your server

[swift mango]

Nah, if you win final even once they show you win final 1+ times. Instead of losing final 1000 times.

There is only 1 entry for each name.

The guys losing final 3+ times are just there because they never won once

[karmic smelt]

Exactly

[lunar pawn]

losing final 3x also means you made it to finals 3x, that shows in rankings

[karmic smelt]

I get my own category

[covert lintel]

Me on the last page

[placid bloom]

you can get 30x finals frame but no champion frame

[karmic smelt]

That’s why it’s worth more than getting champ and lost in list of names

[swift mango]

I call "getting to final 3+ times" the biggest jobbers of the server lol

[covert lintel]

[swift mango]

You are just small timers

[gritty ridge]

Its time

[swift mango]

There are like 2+guys with 3 times final losing in SEA

The real jobbers

[covert lintel]

I'm always messing up and trying a new team

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

I get to fight the hime finally

[placid bloom]

I'm disappoint if you can't 5-0

[glad meteor]

[placid bloom]

should be easy win

[gritty ridge]

Youre right

Ezpz

[raven plover]

you will win eventually

[covert lintel]

won't
Beta near end

[swift mango]

When beta ends it's another beta begin

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-you-know-that-chief-detective-oscar-finlay-reacher-why-do-you-know-that-are-you-certain-gif-24767512

wait I get it, 30 seasons

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-deglove-degloving-speed-grolemcorp-gif-2628858460915389297

[covert lintel]

I nearly won this
If only i put it correctly like in the plan(p2 cindy p3 delta)

The opponent gets a lot of burst gen from hitting cindy

[raven plover]

nayuta one of the highest atk 😭

[crystal flicker]

How the hell Nayu RH fail to nuke slow Cindy

[shell hazel]

thanks for the credits sir

[swift mango]

Biscuit

[umbral belfry]

oh brother

[hollow hazel]

how can I beat this person? thanks. my first team won but the other two got destroyed lol, mb gotta resend

[worldly osprey]

lower vote is always a hidden buff

[swift mango]

Their team is 2rl regardless

[swift mango]

Now screenshot again

[gritty ridge]

20/80

[covert lintel]

But at least rosanna can snipe and make it shift to b3 rh

[swift mango]

I don't think their speed improved.

[swift mango]

Well, they did burst a tiny little bit faster, lapT 2nd shot instead of Trina 2nd I guess.

[swift mango]

Could happen

[hollow lagoon]

bro gonna join me in irreverence

[hollow lagoon]

hard to say i think its a speed issue, also nayuta p2 for whatever reason

breh do u check ur speed before sending?

[hollow hazel]

Ah i thought nayu p2 because she immortal for the first 9 sec haha, tried multiple combi only team 1 won

[hollow hazel]

Speed.. as if rl multiplier?

[hollow lagoon]

ye

[umbral crown]

[hollow hazel]

I.. nope didn't check lol

[hollow lagoon]

prob should check ur opponent and your self

[hollow hazel]

I'll do that tomorrow when i have some free time! Thanks

[umbral crown]

How is bigboi with hime... @umbral belfry i thought what we have was special

[hollow lagoon]

you can become special with me, @tropic summit is not recouping me anyway

[umbral crown]

But u got hippo

[covert lintel]

You'll become champion after whaling research level

[hollow lagoon]

i won it 3x long time ago, not asking for much more tbh

[umbral belfry]

it's not what you think

[umbral crown]

What it is then?

[swift mango]

This is about the only time I saw Anis shared dmg on action lol... His max core Moran was actually much stronger than my Moran.

My first time out in CA.

[umbral belfry]

yes.

@tropic summit your students are fighting

[swift mango]

His daughter and grandson.

[umbral belfry]

[spiral onyx]

RIP bro who copied the teams but lacked the investments

My next opponent exactly copied my comps but has proper investment and switched the ordering so it'll be an interesting rock paper scissors

[charred wedge]

@tropic summit yooooo

Defense was really mighty thanks to ya

[deep raptor]

Any counters? I used to sack the first team off and win with the next two but Moran is barely winning me the second matchup. my burst is too slow on the third up matchup even when switching Ada out for a battery unit. Red hood always survives.

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit your students are fighting, but with the proper vote

[arctic jewel]

"If my opponent wins with his teams, I'm sure to win in dittos!"

[eager brook]

Is that mainly a charge speed difference?

[tribal tartan]

PvP people

What’s the meta spa def team rn

Thanks

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/its-happening-friday

@umbral belfry @gritty ridge may the best win 🍿

[tribal tartan]

@tropic summit

[umbral belfry]

does the losing student go to the shadow realm

[tribal tartan]

Are they 1v1-ing?

[umbral belfry]

yes we're fighting

[tropic summit]

Archetypes:
#pvp-arena message

stable def team assuming all units in it are invested

T1: moran noah biscuit helmt swha
T2: jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc ada (vestiTU lowest HP in link)
T3a:nayuta trina/centi helmt rh laplaceT/emilia (trina/centi and laplaceT/helmT with quantum)
T3b: scar-soda / scar-soline-rapunzel

[tribal tartan]

Thanks

[tribal tartan]

Believe in the heart of the cards

[tribal tartan]

Wait I have no Noah, pls fix

[tropic summit]

they get a pat on their back and they get told they're the best, also a lewd picture of Arcana

[tropic summit]

• moran bay biscuit helmt swha
• noise bay biscuit helmt swha

[tribal tartan]

Gah, how much investment does noise need

[tropic summit]

just run moran

you'll need her for pve aswell anyway

[umbral belfry]

ok I want to lose then

[tribal tartan]

Oh they’re 2 teams I see

Scarlet has been dethroned?

[tropic summit]

on def kinda

[gritty ridge]

Then tell soda to stun helm and lap

[tribal tartan]

[gritty ridge]

For example, I run this atm

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon it's over

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

good shiet, me proud

[hollow lagoon]

ill defeat u one day

[gritty ridge]

Im actually in the process of remaking them

Cuz they got cracked

[glad meteor]

4 levels till ziz clear

[tropic summit]

while they're good they've been fairly common sadly

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/good-one-good-one-2

[tribal tartan]

Ignored

@tropic summit how have you been recently?

[umbral belfry]

soda miss rh and/or nayu pls and ty I need arcana naked pics

[tribal tartan]

I don’t think she’s old enough

[umbral belfry]

[tribal tartan]

[shell hazel]

what can you crate to?

[tribal tartan]

Oh you’re here too

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/always-have-been-always-will-be-tracy-jordan-30rock-forever-and-ever-now-and-forever-gif-21884305

[tribal tartan]

Liar

[arctic jewel]

I want to see a lewd pic of Arcana 😭

[shell hazel]

[tribal tartan]

Stop trying to get pics of my wife

[shell hazel]

join our union sir!

[arctic jewel]

Oki! I will get my serotonin from Red Hood then

[shell hazel]

@hollow lagoon makes cake for everyone (maybe)

we need more good cultists

[hollow lagoon]

i can bake

[shell hazel]

all the best pve malders are here too

we need to kidnap Rail

[spiral onyx]

General investment diff. See the performance of their Absolute team vs my Absolute team

[cedar sorrel]

Is this beatable

Not with my team btw

Just like that def

[placid bloom]

it is difficult without Ada

[cedar sorrel]

I have ada

[gaunt pulsar]

do you have jackal blanc and vesti?

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah

Cp could be an issue

Yeah not looking good

[lethal karma]

will blanc indom survive vs scarlet nuke?

[cedar sorrel]

If u indom in time

[gaunt pulsar]

rh much better than ada? we need 20k

[lethal karma]

this should be okay right

[placid bloom]

equal speed Blanc beats Scar Trina

no you are dead

[glad meteor]

Yes. I use moran anchor biscuit sw helmt

Temper cube on team

[cedar sorrel]

Like 5k cp more

[placid bloom]

oh wait top is enemy Scar

[lethal karma]

yea im below

[gaunt pulsar]

eh, then mine wouldn't work

[placid bloom]

yeah it's fine, they are too slow

[lethal karma]

okie

[cedar sorrel]

Honestly my highest cp is 327k

[placid bloom]

unless their Scar crits a million times with counter and kills your Blanc

[cedar sorrel]

Its prob not doable lol

[placid bloom]

which is really unlucky

[lethal karma]

their scar have no trina

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah, you need 313k, hard to cook when your best is 327

[tribal tartan]

Lazy

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

not 601 yet

i'll be going at it at steps

attempt at 561
then 581
then 595-601

[cedar sorrel]

I need SR15 jackal 😭

[tropic summit]

my experience should be similar to Kara if not worse anyway, hopefully clear within 595-601

[shell hazel]

hacks

I can crate to 553 at the moment

[tribal tartan]

Soon tm

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/winterz-soon

[hollow lagoon]

hacks

[tribal tartan]

Facts

[tropic summit]

don't wanna hear it from you 2 f2ps @hollow lagoon @shell hazel

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit ill defeat u one day

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bocchi-the-rock-gotou-hitori-3

[tribal tartan]

Babu

[lethal karma]

[hollow lagoon]

Look at my weak sync powers

[gaunt pulsar]

visual bug

didnt live long enough either way

[tropic summit]

[lethal karma]

legit thought i was gonna lose but helm nuke somehow 3k.o

[tribal tartan]

F2P btw

[tropic summit]

started months later than me, 100 synchro+ diff

[hollow lagoon]

look at a 595 saying 661 is 100+

[tribal tartan]

Wallet diff

[hollow lagoon]

big haxor still out sync hippo some how

[tropic summit]

gotta make it seem worse than it is

[tribal tartan]

Rounding error

[gaunt pulsar]

linked units, she deals too much dmg so all 3 die even from single hit split 3 times

[tropic summit]

secrets of the trade

[hollow lagoon]

join the union and we can try to make top 69

[tropic summit]

shooting range mains got their cards to play

[tribal tartan]

[tropic summit]

very specific number

[hollow lagoon]

[tribal tartan]

Every number is a specific number

[lethal karma]

oh true i thought i was just mad lucky it splashed 3 units if that was even possible

[tribal tartan]

Winning and you don’t even know how

[shell hazel]

top 69 is the number to aim for

[tribal tartan]

I can’t count that high

[lethal karma]

i know wwhat im doing

[hollow lagoon]

Can’t even 666 sigh

[shell hazel]

[tribal tartan]

Too much trolling

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

zanta will outsync us all

combined

[hollow lagoon]

and ill get out synced by illana lel

[tropic summit]

not keripo at least

[tribal tartan]

Wallet diff

[arctic jewel]

donate some crates to me 🥺

[hollow lagoon]

my sync cap aint possible

[tropic summit]

ask the rich ones, not the poor ones

[tribal tartan]

My main is still rich :)

[hollow lagoon]

ill donate if u join but u aint doing it

[arctic jewel]

😭

[hollow lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1491185146450280712/dorolick.gif

[arctic jewel]

(pls don't see me as a villain)

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

[arctic jewel]

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

man grabbing @arctic jewel and i get to yeet the mentally ill derp person in my union and all it will do is cost me 20 bucks to buy him a monthly bonuse pack that makes him stronger so its even better for the union

[shell hazel]

the cult expands

all hail the cultists!

[tribal tartan]

Rich in hoarding

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-creed-cult-leader-follower-gif-15827566

[tribal tartan]

My main is still hoarding

[hollow lagoon]

bro is ready to sync to 1000

[tribal tartan]

I’m ready for nikke 2

[hollow lagoon]

kek tru

[shell hazel]

wut da hell!

[charred wedge]

I pray the ones i fight with arent hoarding this much

[hollow lagoon]

if ur in my bracket dont worry i'm dry

[tribal tartan]

I wonder why all my alts are higher sync than my main 🤔

[tribal tartan]

Other way around

[arctic jewel]

jeez

[arctic jewel]

[hollow lagoon]

[arctic jewel]

🍌

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/SkyDogSocial-love-dog-romance-KrVLw1IfR8BZq1ARu0

[tropic summit]

my arcana looks a bit weird

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/warhammer-40k-meme-imperium-of-mankind-3Tq7marFEDoTZtAmEZ

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/warhammer-40k-no

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

[arctic jewel]

why not both?

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

The poli-ce are on my side

[glad meteor]

BigBoi out of control

[gritty ridge]

Im finally fighting hime

[glad meteor]

Reminds me of when I finally fought @umbral crown , and I got smoked

[gritty ridge]

Our matchup actually ended up being rng to win

[glad meteor]

Bigboi think he can beat whel powers

[tropic summit]

T1 you're taking drakeT fire code dmg on a wind code in p5, as long as you're aware of that... as you'll be slowing their moran down you should be able to out trade as you'll oneshot p1

Notes: consider RH/SWHA in p5 or the other flexes in p5 to prevent siren dying to SG and SWHA pokes

T2 biscuitless noah on enemy team, so indom vestiTU is fine as long as you're 2RL

[gritty ridge]

Im also a whale lmao

[glad meteor]

is this true

[gritty ridge]

Ive spent 3500$

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-fortnite-early-stream-reunion-gif-143982391907906686

My bad. I was unfamiliar with your game

[scarlet adder]

thank you

[gritty ridge]

None of it was on dust tho lmao

[glad meteor]

Whel is Whel

[gritty ridge]

Love me some skins and pulls

[glad meteor]

I spent 2k max on a game

Never again

[tropic summit]

what game was it, i'll judge you accordingly

[tropic summit]

better not be browndust 2

[glad meteor]

Marvel comtest of champions

[slender grove]

Any ideas on how to counter this team on SP Arena?

[tropic summit]

oh wow that's unexpected

[charred wedge]

[glad meteor]

Wheling feels so good. But then you realise you lost actual money

Then. You get everything you wanted. But its still not enough

[tropic summit]

this looks like a team we often build here

[charred wedge]

Return of investment is...Happiness

[carmine pond]

Vesti nuke?

[tropic summit]

solution 1

solution 2

you're on the left, pick w/e allows you to not get into deficit and runs your invested units

to find out if you're on deficit multiply for 0.846 enemy team CP

your team needs to be above that value

[tropic summit]

it's absolute team with crown synergy with soline

bro picked extra atk% over crit or sacc

[scarlet adder]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pout-kiss-4

[gritty ridge]

This is the most ive ever spent by far

And ive recently cut my spending severely

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

good

you're healing

now let's see if you can resist next miranda/bready skin release

[gritty ridge]

I cant

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/weakness-disgusts-me-senju

slave to your desires

[swift mango]

Apparently you are probably sardine comparing to hime.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/brinasgift-1

[swift mango]

Good thing is even F2P can win with enough luck

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Like my current bracket, most high profile members are dropped early. There are only like 4 guys left in top 16 who are former winner.

[tropic summit]

less about luck, more about everyone got access to high win ratio teams, so everyone is just RNG'ing against each others, no longer dependant on people running weaker/cope teams

early seasons may have been more about knowledge than invest, once everyone could copypasta, the cycle began

[gritty ridge]

At my peak spending she still had 50% more pulls per day

[tropic summit]

she also buys skins on multiple accounts

her power is beyond us mere mortals

[swift mango]

People running weaker team did won bro. Like the guy I just beat today, his team worse than the guy he beaten yesterday. SEA people don't usually use copy pasta, they used whatever they wanted. The guys who did used copy pasta actually got beaten early this season.

[tropic summit]

weaker team but on the right team order will win

it's again just RNG

say you run a team that has consistent 66% win ratio
and opponent run a team that is utter crap with 30% win ratio, but specifically counters that 66% win ratio team

boom, you win even with crappy team

we had a champ before with a team that lost every single matchup and it had blue units, 3 teams regularly got the right matchup order

that's all it takes

https://klipy.com/gifs/kolow

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

this is true though, statistically running high win ratio teams will get you easier wins

the same can happen to the opponent if the coin flip is on your side because of RNG

[swift mango]

Nah, just copy pasta the winner: -

[tropic summit]

the moment you sign up your teams, it's jesus take the whel time

what you can do, is assemble ideal cars that they may fit to the race they'll get randomly tossed in

[tropic summit]

low cost low effort, people got champ that way

kinda helps if you're C7 on all units and research advantage

[swift mango]

I don't really look at ratio. If I see the team being good enough then it's good enough. I don't have leeway to go for ratio.

[tropic summit]

a team does good because it has good win ratio against other teams that are commonly run

it's not because that team is good, but it's because the other teams aren't good against it

[swift mango]

like I said, ratio is hard to match. I my bracket there is no very common run teams anyway, everyone just go whatever they wants.
At most it's Rosa SG and 2rl Nayuta being common teams

[tropic summit]

there's a limited amount of "meta" teams you can run , this game does not reward being creative because resources are limited

you can call them "uncommon" but they're just variants of indoms, stalls and pressure teams

a pizza with ham or bacon on it is still a pizza

[swift mango]

They don't need to be "meta". Like a 3rl Moran+Trina+biscuit+Midhara just won most of his match up to champ because he could. Then lose to a random 5 teams that I was easily beat.

[arctic jewel]

😔

[tropic summit]

anything can work because it's CA, as you said

"Then lose to a random 5 teams that I was easily beat"

that's exactly it

you can do well against 60%+ teams, ultimately it just takes 1 matchup with bad ordering and you're out

it wasn't because your team was bad, but it was because the other teams were good against it

[swift mango]

I mean his teams aren't even meta.

[lunar pawn]

is scarlet counter shared through a jackal link?

[tropic summit]

anything that proccs damage to scarlet, so yes

[shell hazel]

I think so but note...

[lunar pawn]

I mean, the damage resulting from the counter

[shell hazel]

if you going for indom this screwed me lol

[tropic summit]

if you damage a unit that is linked, that damage is then shared after being reduced by that unit DR

[lunar pawn]

so yes

[shell hazel]

my scarlet kept getting indom even with vigor on, maybe due to how she damages herself

[tropic summit]

ye she lowers her HP a lot alone, you'd need the other units to start way lower HP than scarlet

[lunar pawn]

they should make a cube to lower hp but give atk%

[tropic summit]

wouldn't that be broken

[swift mango]

Varian of meta archtype and different to meta teams. And this guy teams are farthest from a meta line up. It's not bad but nothing meta about it.

[lunar pawn]

[swift mango]

The guy he beat actually ran meta teams.

[tropic summit]

nayuta 2RL punishes jackal links
indom vestiTU punishes non biscuit noah teams
stall team punishes glass cannon

what are you seeing of "new" in this?

just because he's eating strawberry icecream over vanilla icecream?

[arctic jewel]

they should make a cube that says "If Warheart uses this cube, he wins"

[tropic summit]

he won because of team ordering here

[swift mango]

Nayuta 2rl but with label instead. It's weaker wipe and not meta.

[tropic summit]

doesn't matter, nayuta is lethal on iron code even if it was liter buffing her

[swift mango]

It's not meta

[tropic summit]

this example is the perfect example of just team ordering

[lunar pawn]

I once beat a 1040 synchro 3x champ, anything can happen

[arctic jewel]

I think it's fair and balanced

[tropic summit]

put nayuta against their stall and she'd lose
put indom vestiTU against biscuit lock and she'd lose
put moran against their noise + bay and they'd lose

this matchup won because of team ordering @swift mango

[swift mango]

His "stall" team Moran isn't actually punish glass cannon it lose to the most common glass cannon, Libby.

[arctic jewel]

I just need a few seconds in the kitchen, that's all I need

[tropic summit]

except scarlet can't survive that team because it gets shredded by midhara while moran is invulnerable

[slender grove]

Solution 2 teams use Liberalio twice?

[tropic summit]

liberalio is flex unit in there, it can be any instant nuker

[swift mango]

That's nothing to say about it. Rapu version of Scarlet would be it flat.

[tropic summit]

here @slender grove ^

just play CP tetris with what you can run that is invested while keeping the archetypes

[swift mango]

like half of the team in CA beat scarlet.

[gritty ridge]

How long til meta changes so much that nero moran is peak again

[swift mango]

Beat scarlet isn't achievement here

[tropic summit]

and yet scarlet-soda can still win matchups due to sheer RNG

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

once you realize how that whole game mode is about luck, you'll soon grow tired of it

it's just statistics and matrixes

[swift mango]

Nah last time I saw a scarlet soda winning it's not because of the team.

So much shit these days making soda on life support

[tropic summit]

put soda p4 and pray she stuns the right units

[swift mango]

That's why Rapu stock on the rise

[tropic summit]

the mere fact it CAN, makes that team worth it

even more so if it happens to be in the finals

[swift mango]

I really want to bring back Soda but it's over for her.

[tropic summit]

rapunzel-scar-soline more reliably stunning afterall

[swift mango]

SWHA adding herself to the big bad dmg before burst seal her fate

[tropic summit]

[lunar pawn]

my rapu would fail her stun even without soline

her gear isn't overleveled either and she's only sr5

[tropic summit]

just like Rin's case, every matchup he gets his rapunzel against low hitters that don't kick her into low HP threshold

the magic of CA, ensuring your matchups are the worst when it matters

[lunar pawn]

yep

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit I dont need to change teams ig

Idek anymore

[tropic summit]

he's probably just RNG'ing indom duels

or relying on some crit sh*t

until consistent don't change them imo

[gritty ridge]

They were consistent for 2 days lmao

Both him and ugussy

Then they started randomly losing again

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/guy-long-hair-3

[swift mango]

I was wondering where did these random guys got this weird scarlet from. Turning out it was from my last season winner.

Oh well, free win for me I guess.

He actually won against Soda scarlet Jackal though. Ignore his 1.5 years older account.

[warm monolith]

[tropic summit]

that's so 2024-2025

[mint kite]

Presumably your Private is 10 10 10?

[tropic summit]

you can run that team with privT on 7/7/7

or for all it matters on 4/4/7

[mint kite]

Hmm

[swift mango]

Anyway, he is the only guy in my bracket with Makima profile so prop for him winning for once.

My guys in CA running random teams are the reason common meta teams aren't really thriving here as the got randomly countered by the most stupid way.

[gritty ridge]

No actually

8 10 7

[warm monolith]

Hi

[gritty ridge]

Wassup

[warm monolith]

Good, what about you

It will be two whole years when I first saw Bay for the first time now :D

Time really flies by quickly

And in 7 days my nikke acc will be 2 years old, cant believe ive played this game for 2 years without a day off lol

[tropic summit]

appearently this was a possibility @glad meteor

but probably yields similar results as midhara?

[undone blaze]

What's a good hitrate % for shotgun?

[tropic summit]

don't get hit rate, get atk% and ele%

this is especially true in pvp arena, where hit rate absolutely does not matter

[gritty ridge]

Sg everywhere get atk ele ammo

Depending on the unit depends on the priority

[undone blaze]

I was just wondering, since my Noir had like 23% hit rate

But she's not really a priority unit for me to reroll stats on

[swift mango]

oh our acc aren't that further appart

[warm monolith]

Whats your lvl?

[glad meteor]

Need to mald xdiesel for gen

[tropic summit]

yeah doesn't sound fun

[swift mango]

actually a bit better than Midhara from the score I saw on SEA.

[glad meteor]

My xdiesel also low cp

Only 1 atk OL

[swift mango]

573. I could get to 581 no problem but save

[oak hatch]

@swift mango is it winnable for left?

[warm monolith]

Theres almost 100 lvl diff lol youre better

[swift mango]

we are like 1 month a a half apart.

[tropic summit]

no left loses to that, they can't lethal a thing

[swift mango]

oh wait, are you even get to ca?

[tropic summit]

bay on biscuit invulnerability will deny helmT overflow dmg and mitigate nayuta 2RL nuke

[warm monolith]

[tropic summit]

also moran+bay invulnerability will deny their lifesteal

[oak hatch]

Rip that’s what I thought, even with way better investments in other players matches nayu still loses

[tropic summit]

just a bad matchup, you got RNG'ed

[swift mango]

sorry but very low chance. Thanks to investment diff

[oak hatch]

my ca win streak might end now

[tropic summit]

investiment won't help him, he's walking literally in that team counter

that's SP level tier of countering

[swift mango]

Okay since you said 7 more days to 2 year, we are around 1 month and 20 days apart

[warm monolith]

Before or after me?

[gritty ridge]

Rng you say

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hp-harry-potter-OmW

[swift mango]

before

[swift mango]

Well, Cindy nuke may not wipe.

[oak hatch]

[tropic summit]

it's moran buffed, that thing is lethal

if he does survive that's a miracle

[swift mango]

or Nayuta just wipe SW then Helm one shot moran.

[tropic summit]

they don't have enough p3 damage to 1hitko SWHA

nayuta RH buffed nuke is around 60-70% of a unit HP unless iron code

i guess maybe if she crits

[swift mango]

Nayuta would crit on their half built SW, trust

[tropic summit]

yeah makes sense

[shell hazel]

retro

[tropic summit]

it's probably not retro

still, 581 clear as f2p account

[swift mango]

or cindy got killed by normal attack after Bay and Moran already triggered biscuit.

[arctic jewel]

does hit rate even matter in PvE?

[shell hazel]

I thought it was pre-retro bye

[tropic summit]

it does for MGs and SGs depending on distance to the target

although in general you'll still prefer atk% ele and ammo

just too situational to bother

[arctic jewel]

figured

[swift mango]

it doesn't matter for MG. Mainly SMG or SG. (editted)

[arctic jewel]

I assume that Assault Cube is also not so good?

[tropic summit]

was it for AR only then?

it does for SG but it's trivial because most bosses won't sit on Long for long time

[swift mango]

it help AR too. I mean SMG or SG mainly. Not MG.

[tropic summit]

right so AR, SMG and SG

still i doubt you'll find anyone who suggest getting hit rate over the other 3 stats

[arctic jewel]

maybe Summer Anis???

[tropic summit]

not even, her main dmg source is from her skillset not autos

if anything s.anis must've 0 ammo OLs

[swift mango]

ASS is the SG needed it less

[tropic summit]

you want to procc her passive as many times as possible

[arctic jewel]

🍑

[swift mango]

Hit rate as OL line is stupid, new SG meta these days often has 50% hit rate as skill.

[mint kite]

Not MGs either. After they're at full wind-up, they're 100% accurate

Modernia has a skill that wants a hit rate line, but even then it's not necessarily better than ammo

[arctic jewel]

lel, never invested in Modernia

I just don't see a reason to

[swift mango]

i don't have mordernia

[arctic jewel]

only 1 copy

[glacial hatch]

It did not work, got destroyed

[arctic jewel]

but I never really upgraded her, maybe to 4/4/4 for a Solo Raid, but that was a long time ago

[swift mango]

Retro has 2 accounts on global

[tropic summit]

ye but he quit on all accounts

it's probably just not the actual RETRO

[swift mango]

did it before he quitted

[tropic summit]

he was online "today"

also he didn't clear that when he quit

[swift mango]

maybe he could still playing waiting to sell them off

[tropic summit]

nah i think i know what's going on

either way doesn't matter, it isn't RETRO

[tropic summit]

FYI@chrome badge

[tropic summit]

[chrome badge]

Too much deficit then

[glad meteor]

SW struggle against moran noah biscuit

Her dmg triggers too late.

Need biscuit trigger asap

[swift mango]

@brazen ledge how many accounts are u playing?

[brazen ledge]

Complicated

3 during ur, 2 daily

Why

[swift mango]

it's not complicate

[brazen ledge]

It is a bit more than that

But why

[swift mango]

how many retro account you are playing.

[brazen ledge]

retro accounts ?

[brazen ledge]

retro said that ?

where

[tropic summit]

isn't saying that kind of risky? i reckon people could get banned for talking about sharing accounts

[brazen ledge]

giving is not sharing

[glad meteor]

[brazen ledge]

but i wonder where tav got that info from

[tropic summit]

i just noticed you're not on my nikke friendlist

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-math-math-cat-numbers-cat-funny-gif-13385485103134761656

[brazen ledge]

he blocked me though so i can't know