#pvp-arena
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well i got the team working. i guess no biscuit on enemy team actually does make it easy to defeat. i had some kind of pvp brain blockage and wasted days of my time trying to beat it 
regardless you're on sustain so
we can wait for a video to check
don't ping the guy to attack me again pls 
i remember she lose he weapon change just like laplace
@swift mango let's ping the guy to attack @lunar pawn so we find out earlier
We know him?

My Moran does more damage against ziz than helm 
i'm so screwed if you're still screwed 
pls clear that thing for both of our sake 
Et cleared
it is what it is
what 
Teo 
SU fixed attract, she can if someone have taunt(hit) or attract
yeah but isn't he waaaaay over expected sync clear 
606

He did the thing?
yeah... 
speaking of which
Yh
the thing seems he did
I should have enough cp to retry bull now
2rl Helm p3 Can be tainted by 2.5rl.moran burst or Noah 2rl burst
my helmT hit a enemy helm for like 80m crit yesterday
sir, i can't even 583 yet 
Open the boxes


3+ weeks enough time to read the sh-t vn we got
i already collected the CGs i wanted 
i did my dailies... nothing more
Not after treasure @bleak shale tell us.
reasonable, aint nobody got time for that
so she keep her weapon and buff after stun now?
Idk about stun but she could cover without losing her weapon after treasure. Before treasure she loses weapons if cover.
we can check in the next video
I saw people said it on comcord
I wish they would give out Rapu in half anni for 200 gold tickets

not sure if i'm in that server
rapu alt, great defender
Nope 
did you try wishlisting her 5 times?
I may bring her next CA though. 
@swift mango suffering since 2024
Rapu isn't needed for SpA or even CA but it's good to have her. 
Great combo with Soline too

i hope i don't have to pull +200 for 1 copy of neon/anis
Just ticket it
to me 1 ticket is like 120k gems instead of 60k
I wonder if I should ticket doro next summer
She doesn't help me with anything.
But maybe better Water union raid score but needs lots of investment for that
2 new limited pilgrims next summer
no sdoro?
summer rh
Blanc with a swimsuit, end of discussion.
Hi
how about both
I'd like to ask if there are any defensive lineups that are even more troublesome for the attacking side? Originally I used Moran + Noah + blablabla. But now I use this
that looks fine...
that's weaker than moran noah
I'm confused what ur asking
Sup
just boost your cp more
moran weapon change after stun
if she lose the buff/weapon or not after treasure
She just covers then comes back doesn't she?
Phase 3 moran keeps the weapon after stun
i don't know about treasure, but before moran lose the weapon and buff
I am the highest CP at this arena
Below phase 3 loses taunt and weapon change
then just play the same old moran/noah/helmT/biscuit/swah, if you can burst moran before 2RL rosanna should be fine
I kept getting hacked using moran+noah.
hacked?
maybe he means clapped?
my rookie DEF is like 2.5 years old, only trina instead of xanne
all good 
add vesti and no biscuit, move noah to p5(?)
try this next
So…what’s the team
i would probably add a SG there if i have the cp advantage
siren noah and vesti on deficit are hell
he can afford an SG instead of SWHA i suppose
she also denies rosanna if they're to use her anyhow
helmT rail team(no moran), mine is without siren (moran)
block? cube
helmt tempering
vestiTU tempering
SWHA tempering
siren tempering
noah tempering
DR (tempering) or highest lvl
lol
DR is master race in pvp, slap it on
team is natural 2RL so you don't need quantums
I see. Thanks for you
Siren at P4 meaning is let Noah being dizzy? Right?
noah p5 will taunt enemy p1 and p2 to shoot p5, if enemy is running noah p1 or p2 they'll taunt siren which then gets them stunned
main reason of siren being p4 or p5 is to avoid getting vesti'ed
I saw this one arena notifier in 4chan is it real or does anyone use it here
same goes for noah, although you're still vulnerable to siren in p1 or p2, but that's why you've your own vestiTU

I see
most normal people just check once or twice arena and then do something productive for the rest of the day
wouldn't surprise me if there are third party tools or scripts that automate checking for attacks on sp but that would be potentially bannable
I wish that was me
why cant I be normal 
I have heard of a script that notices you when you get hit but never heard anyone use it.
yeah i saw it sent there i thought it was a well known thing so i asked here
just speedrun any% to get banned 
I saw it when I was in LD union. And people use script a lot in this game. Script for Alice and B.Milk
Are more commonly used
How do i counter this guys
Nah, they won't share it in union if you got banned for it. 
Not worth risking to get it to public for sure. 
But unions that have their salt in UR all have those script shared in their chat.
You could try to go to comcord and ask around if your union doesn't share
pvp script for UR? or the pause/ timing to skip animations?
I swear all of my opponents use it
you can just manual to get those skip
The script for Bmilk and Alice

macro? bmilk is too boring to use
Imagine getting banned for hacking in this game. Su do nothing 
Yeah this is banable dawg
Pvp script is only to notify you of being hit
just be a normal person and don't use that sh*t
- that's not healthy, the game is not intended for you to have to check regularly
- not worth risking getting banned for when it actually gets reported/detected
Im not gonna use it
build your team, get your hits done, close the app
All of my opponents are hackers when they beat me but when I beat them im just skilled
- that's not healthy, the game is intended for you to have to check regularly

well this is also sadly true, i still wouldn't risk it, silly game mode doesn't require this kind of tryhardin' 
Imagine not checking every 20mins
I remember someone share that notify script in LD union chat but no one tried it, nor they moved the script into guide section.
Sasuga rail 
yep, the pvp system is to make you spend more money to defend

No one sweaty enough in arena to try.
hey i still try to give common sensed tips 

ely

ye we know a certain someone @umbral crown

is rail reading the vn?
|| spoilers ||
ye there's 4 big ||spoilers ||in there
But but

i don't click those things
Checking every 30 mins was the way
it's not 🥜 at least
you check more than that

Used to 
this event is just so peak..
||i will make you click a link and steal your underwear ||
let's just say that they know their community 
i just want more content to play

Anyone help me with this pls
funny how u are almost deficit at same synch level
Bro has better gaming chair than me
Just toggle N/A on the filter
Use this to beat 1-2-3 by same order. But if you can't get it to above deficit then send ur box.
Darn, he made it default to not show Rapipi. 
does bay need treasure, i dont have it yet but i can get it ig
so long as you aren't defict you will be fine.
i am deficit all 3 teams
your cp/theirs need to > 0.846. else send your box if you need helps. 
Arena chat 101, send your box if you wanted help.
especially when you are clueless
here mine
you don't even have jackal in your first 2 pages. 
no she next to biscuit
Check CP again, if your team/their team > 0.846 then you aren't deficit
It all around 0.81
The best i can do is 0.83
does your Jackal have OL on?
No she doesnt
Check CP of these 2 teams, Cindy his scarlet. Moran hit Vesti.
Maybe use in this order
Moran+Blanc+Biscuit+HelmT+LapT
Record the fight. But you aren't gonna def anyway.
Go OL your Jackal, biscuit, Noah. 
And put sr0 doll on them if you must save the mats. 
He always need 2 turns to beat my def, so i think its fine
Is this winnable if I'm attacking into the top team with an average deficit of 30%?
I feel like every team is going to die to normal attacks before anything can happen
no

at 30% deficit, Privaty and Anis would one shoot each of your unit per 0.5rl.
I'm strugglin' out here
And Noise+Noah would tank everything, If Jackal linked could even tank LapT 3 atk and burst.
Hi pvp people
is the train soline gud enough for sp?
stuck in 1330, back to pvp mode 
ill hit you tomorrow
i expect you to hit me back to at least say hi
I always kiss my homies good night

i c u
Any recommend with this team?
you liz or the guy running his acc


Doppel account doesn't have the investment to go at this deficit. 
ah it's not the real liz 
i just want him to hit me
tell me hi how are you
, ITS LONELY
sponsor me so I can hit you more often 
Shared account? Report and get him banned. Then you will beat him next year.


hey its just my third account, leave it alone

No 
is this good for noise skill lvl or should it be higher?
777 is a good stopping point, but in endgame going 101010 isn't bad
if it works for you as is, then you can leave it alone for now
okay so 777 is pretty much the standard tho, got it. ill consider 10s tho whats the priority there you think?
S1 and burst are really important
Skill levels 8 9 10 requires yellow skill manuals
which is really hard to farm in this game
you should only 8 9 10 1. Meta characters OP 2. Characters that you love using or just really like for that matter
8 9 10 usually requires heavy commitment and this game just gives limited resources
no worries. I know that all too well
I suggest burst 10 btw if ur pvp heavy
mine was 7 7 10
should just save books for solo raid now where needed
@tropic summit 
Howd u go about beating this?
that comp works already, just dont be in deficit
Oh ur right. Thanks!
That's too close for comfort.
Bursting with HelmT might help.
Why even burst with SWHA? She takes too long to get going.
How was this close I still had like 4 seconds of indom left
So u can kill the enemy
Oh? Oke. So it's good enough.
Oh f. I didn't see your Blanc.
Hahahaha yeah
I remember seeing an excel sheet with the nikkes burst gen value(?) A few weeks back, does anyone have it?
Thanks a lot 

What works against this? Moran/Rumani/SWHA/Helm/Noah?
Tvesti indom, could also run rosanna+siren
Doesnt that team there work anyways

@tropic summit
Lib has no damage outside of burst u shud win that
as long as ur 2RL
Probably, I haven't tried anything yet 😛
@tropic summit


Just swap Vesti and Helm position. But yeah, should win as is
😭
Can you send me your CA winner teams?
@tropic summit
@covert lintel
@mystic rain
@arctic jewel
as well. 
Hold on, saved the screenshots yesterday
Thanks 
i didnt even change anything 
@glad meteor can you send me your CA winner? 
when i login will do so 
Thank you 
Can you send me your CA winner? 
I lost rail and rosy san in my bracket 
we will reunite surely 
You moved up? 
the more ppl quit the narrow the bracket will be anyhow
It was your job to send ca winner 
They moved down 
i never make it past the first bracket 
So many Absolute teams running around
win ratio of absolute is stonks 
Well, you could still check the winner's team.
say bye bye to your p1 p2 p3 within 2RL is juicy
oh you meant this?
hold
waste of resources unless you're fine bricking a bit pve for no rewards CA
😔
Okay same as warheart, nvm. 

Wait, what's your tag?
Ask the winner directly 
@torn obsidian 
Doubt
tag as in my in game name?
Why
Yeah
good.
Not many people willing to send
because he trolls me all the time for no reason
weirdo
tenshi lost me 6 hours of credits 🙁
@swift mango he's not wrong 
Thank you again. 

wowie keripo still running oldschool scarlet
Send me when you have the time thanks. 
don't send him thanks
Well, if you are that hating it then I won't need record you name. 
Not like I collected Champ to copy them.
@covert lintel it's your chance to troll blood 
It's not the first time someone doesn't want their name on the list. Nana and another did as well.
If they refuse then I just stop asking.

regardless collecting all champs gives you a good clue of win ratios, even without their names showing
Nah I mean the whole team.
The source refuse to share so I won't ask anymore. Just hope he won't win champ anymore because I would hate to miss a slot on SEA each season.

Missing an entry in SEA is annoying since it's the server I'm in.


I'm glad FAH beat you 80% the time so I won't have to worry about that every season. 
he's so mad

at least i don't play in a freelo bracket like yours and rack free champ frames
seeing that Mirror match made me question what CS% DID Keripo have
The f are you even talking about. In my bracket I have to place dozen of month one players who started 1.5 years before me. 
I'm annoying at you attitude is all. But I don't care if you don't share. 
probably around 20%
you want 21%+ to burst before 11%noah
yea 21% maybe or above even
depending on the units you only need 21+ and jackal p5 at 24% can get the next speed
I'm only do record keeping to reserve history. I have to beg others for it and merge image every Season. This is volunteer work that doesn't benefit me 99% the times. 
So please dont act like I'm that desperate. 
And you are a god for helping me listing your team. 
or just with cs cube
bro who would even try to jackal 24%
jackal? i need bay 24%
there's always that asian kid better than you 
ayoyoi
i think keripo have less than 21, because my DR team b1 before scar b3 and 21%should land before moran burst
Isnt the breakpoint at 25% or is it 24%?
or just not enough burst gen to skip last hit
@swift mango
p5 should add extra cs for some units, you can juggle with that depending on the team, the thing is that my team is 3RL playing around 2.5 or a bit faster, i could just change bay to a different units and get a faster team with helmT last hit, but is all about cs, burst gen and feed
nayuta rh 2RL
moran noah archetype 2RL-2.2RL
absolute
scar-soda / scar- rapunzel
then you've either SG, liberalio or slow cindy
looks like these are all the highest win ratio teams they running 
I see, thx
As per uje

Can you send me your bracket winner this season? Thx u. 
I won again 

this happened to me once lol, had a blessed run, barely lost anything on the way to final, then 5-0 death


how are your cultists doing @hollow lagoon
found some new fresh~~ meat ~~recruits?
we basically full now I think
missing a tracer of rail
all the unions you made?
SSSSSSHHHH it's not called Cultist now it's called Casual Union
I don't think even casual union will need more soon that may be full also
casual when we lose, competitive when we win
solo raid next reset? didn't play a full run
a classic 
that it is
fire is one of my weakest elements cope runs incoming 
i will steal teams
Diesel is a must also in Fire
the song is not good enough to spend time there
not to mention Altcana Meta for sg
WL
oh? waifu is meta? 
SG neutral, you can still use brid for fire weak
ya greater damage than nayuta if u build her
1month left
you do Tove Altcana BunnySODA Drake xBrid
highest dps fire sg comp right now
yes, WL arcana
for me personally I use Crown Xbrid Rapipi HelmT Siren
brid for DoT comp probably
if my other units are not good i will not get top 200 and below that the gems are the same
3% and done
Maybe send the result and your enemy team too. To clarify your win. 
nope, closest i got is top 4
wasn't it against keripo?
no, against a cn guy problably, didn't remember
i probably got stat diffed, because was my lb0 vesti (bad OL) against a max core noise/noah and high recycling room
if Noah p2 survive vesti that's a whale alright
Maybe weak vesti
My noah survived a couple weak ones. My noah is poop
36~40%atk +2 ele at the time it was bad OL
Granted I’m 2rl so have Moran buff
What's to choice. 
You still have to build Nayuta regardless
i meant for diesel, brid and arcanaAlt
nayuta is already since long built
arcana is best B2 for this Solo raid, if you are building for it. 
Nothing to choice really
@lunar pawn u can hit me back was testing teams again
Are you the guy he is hitting the last few days? 
i don't think so he likes fighting with the CN whales in our bracket
don't think he's gapped against virtue
the one he was solving earlier today/yesterday was having at least 1 team gapping him
probably one of those cn whales on top of him
are you gonna build her or pass? 
is this kendie or something? not sure if i have him in my fl
Blood have rock to build SR unit? 
probably not 
I don't even have gem to pull Arcana 
he said he's finishing lappy iirc
save brotha .5 anniv coming april 19
Send me your CA winner please, btw. 
I don't have rock for them so unless Campaign or Arena relevant, skip.
*april 29th
Decided to send a friend invite
you can just ask Hime 
me lazy to download that tool that compiles team screenshot
Hime won't send pics. 
Just send me the screenshot.
Doesn't need to compile

april 29th? confirmed?
Can I trouble you to send your CA winner teams as well? 
PIE
probably, it should have been 22, but we got a extra week from this event
The teams too. 
The same guy that said Lycoris was coming said it
AIGHT seems probable
Let him cook
lazy to capture 10 team so here is both team together 
Yeah absolutely, let me just go screenshot it

You can just send only cup team you know. 
chisato work against normal teams or just as a specific counter?
only into SG
and that is assuming she is not high enough Atk to get dispel by Rosanna
well I guess 1.5s vs 2s not that diff, so dispel don't matter 
if it's april 29 then it seems more possible for me to get x400 Gold ticket by then
Noice
still block 3 shot
cause I won't be surprise pulling 200+ and still not get pilgrim
LD will just have to deal with it. 
Thanks. 
I'm conflicted but thanks. 
who is nana?
Yeah I saw you say something about nana not wanting to send
Hime's union member
I will just take it down if Nana asks. 
sugar in the teams, i like this guy
are all hime union members whales?
Well, I have sugar kinda invested but I will wait for her treasure to bring back SG teams.
sugar was the og main dps in my SG rosanna
if I switch spvp def bro is gonna copy it again 
@swift mango haha
Which server are you? Could you send me your CA winner teams?
She was my campaign carrier up to chapter 15 I think. 
for team 3 maybe noise > lib etc?
and move trina to middle
and will xmaiden > drakeT?
or even rumani etc
sure any small favor in exchange for helping me in ALL those spvp atks
oh WOW
he got 5 CA wins sasuga champion
Hmm hope it's not a repeat. 
Thanks. You should have said you are from SEA lol. Bro just refused to show so yeah. I won't be showing it.

Oh I know what to do, just show the one who lost's team instead. 
@valid inlet if you don't want you team to be showed, tell me, I would erase your team part.
If CP is the same then Noise is fine. Put her to p1 linked ofc.
Same to XMaiden vs drake, CP matter, if it is reduced too much then it's not good.
This shouldn't be something you need consent for 
I mean, if the guy in the pic doesn't want his team to be showed then it's rude to show it.
Ofc if Idk their contact then I won't find them for consent.

Doesn’t make sense to not show anyway, hundreds or thousands already saw it in their bracket 
Nerose is another case, dude just don't want me to have his teams so if you send it, he has to deal with it. 
Nerose is worse than kamui
But he is contained with mid server mostly
Within
Probably not that much, like 64 * 300 ... So like 20000.
This is insane 
that’s a lot
That's if they bothered to check. 
it's funny because you're the one who asked a proxy for my teams, instead of asking me directly
you know you were being difficult to me in the past for no reason, and so you didn't want to ask me for my teams now
and now you're making me sound like the villain lmao

When was I ever been difficult to you? 
you know it yourself, all your messages where you pinged me in this channel serve as evidence
so tell me then, why didn't you ask me for my teams, but you asked someone else to send my teams
The only thing I remember between us is that one time a few days ago when I was having some joke comment with you that I do with all other guy but you somehow had a grudge for it. 
I ask Rakuen to send his bracket team every single season. Also, I never asked Keripo to send his team to me for example.
Sometime I would just come to his video to take it if he already post video and I lazy to ask. But I never ask him for sending his team. 
doesn't really answer why you're being roundabout with me then
it seems like you have a weird ego issue because you insists on getting Rakuen to send my teams, instead of communicating with me
and now you're like "oh Nerose's an exception, i'm gonna post his teams if i get my hands on it just to spite him"
Villian Arc
@swift mango being a bully 
just ask nicely and sort it out you two, you're mature adults surely 
If I know you are willing to send your teams I would beg you. Also, I don't really remember names in this server if I don't talk to them much. So I basically doesn't remember that it was your team until Rakuen @ you. 
I'm 2 year and a month old, wdym. 
yeah we knew that already you're 2 years and a month old mentally 
baby blood 
Well, my sister should be around my age, not much further apart.. 

I got my hand on your team already. I didn't even look at it and only post the one who lost to you's teams. 
I mean if other guys posting your team on LD serve then you just have to deal with it.
Since we are having a fight rn, I wouldn't be the justice court and block it


blood choose violence instead of peace 
i don't care and i have nothing to hide, my teams are nothing special
i just don't like the way you portray me as the villian and treat me unfairly when you're the one trolling me
I mean there is no reason for me to stop other from posting his teams. I'm not an angel.
or you could just clear the misunderstanding and ask @torn obsidian nicely... 
Nana is different case, if requested I just delete from my pic. It's an accident.
meanie.
try saying the following magic works:
"i'm sorry, that's not what i meant, i just wanted to ask for your teams, please and thank you"
add cherry on the top: "if you don't want to show your name i'll hide it"
Maybe next time
sigh... 

PvP arena is pvping 
Bars
It's his wish to not showing his team. And it's suit me just right, I did nothing wrong to be sorry to him.
at least we staying on topic 
I don't even looks at 90% of the teams I collected anyway.
the first step in communication is clearing up any misunderstanding or finding common grounds, if you offended him and you didn't mean to just say so, but it's not my business, just a friendly tip 

sometimes a sorry and a thank you can solve all your issues 
Seems like bro doesnt wanna be the bigger person tho
I mean we both offended each other and now that we all know the misunderstand, I don't see a reason for me to sorry to him. Just cut the conversation right here.
well it's blood 
this is his cute side

read what be_woke said above, ultimately it's about that, be the bigger person 
If it's merry, Rosy or you, I would say sorry to reconcile whether it's my fault entirely or not. But I don't care enough about him to do it.
aww i'm included 

There's more not just 3 of you but just an example

alrighty you made your point clear i guess, give it some time and you'll probably eventually cool off, it's fine
i'm sure you're mature enough to move on eventually 

where's that big bunny

If you guys ever get into an argument again, just remember these wise words of wisdom;
🥜
that's ||nuts||
Pushing agenda is the reason to live
Thats why i will not allow privaty pvp propaganda to flourish
but you build her anyway.
And will always say “x” team won’t be able to kill moran 

I mean 4rl rapu to Privaty to Siren is about to stop SW, Emi, Ada indom altogether.

it's from what Merry gave us at least.
People run emi ada indom?
sasuga
Old days maybe
Kinda valid on sw, but would be interested in seeing more vids
Ada is very new day though
Most moran noah biscuit sw comps, 2 rl on base which are kinda annoying
I just discovered we could be it with
Rapu+Crown+Libby 3.5rl.
doesn't need Biscuit.
Yeah, I’m suprised when i actually saw that team won 
Slow libby sasuga
slow libby @gaunt pulsar did it but needed biscuit to tank SW burst. I just improvise Rapu to reset SW burst.
I don't have 24% charge speed btw on any of my units. Highest I have is actually 23% on Emilia
Rapu soline comp you were showing yesterday?
23% + Adjustant is 25 
yeah, 3.5-4 RL and she would stun to reset SW charging
So libby would survive until burst landed.
Ye
So you do have 25% emi? You keep saying you have then not, Idk where we are at. 
Adj cube prob
I don't want to spread misinformation about keripo anymore.
Last time I remembered he said he doesn't have 25% emi.
This is my Emilia
okay so you have it. 
bah only 4 blue line CS%... no black lines 
25% emi
The only super invested units are Emilia and VestiT. My investments aren't as crazy as you guys think, I don't have infinite rocks lol
I just make sure all my RLs are 18%+ charge speed and all my units are SR15 doll. That's achievable by anyone who has been PvP focused since CA S1

25% emi is enough. You don't need anyone else 25%, maybe Libby in specific teams. 
If you play this game infinity time you will have infinite rock btw. 
I was thinking of rolling 4x atk on my Laplace in addition to her current 4x CS but I'm thinking of just saving up all my rocks right now for 3.5 anni units in case they need it
PVE half anni 
Though they do look at ca when making kit these days.
Siren nayu lib cindy
I got a few blue lines here and there but rarely any black lines
Mihara
@torn obsidian I guess you hate people passing jokes at you so it's my bad and I would keep in mind about that.
I mean, I mostly cp pad and these line already enough cp forme. 
Rolling 24% charge speed on random RL units doesn't make sense unless you do it for ALL RLs in the squad and RLs are the bottleneck. And even then, because of the delays that most B3s have with their AoE nukes, it doesn't really make that big a diff. And because I constantly experiment with different teams, having some units have significantly more charge speed than others while not being the bottleneck becomes a waste of rocks. Hence why almost all my RLs are 18-20% CS
2RL is easy right now so even 25% charge speed on everyone isn't going to let your B3 land it's nuke before an enemy Noah or Moran. But it will let you avoid getting Siren stunned
Did I read drama
And my 1.6RL AoE nukers will usually land before their 2RL AoE nukers (except an enemy Scarlet since that's instant)
CS is all nice and good until you lose indom mirror because you have higher CS.
or 18-21% bullet whiff on 20 ammo scarlet. 
@unique wagon this summarizes things

My Blanc team is now 2.5RL and I'm very happy with it so far
Railtracer x Kara 2026
SHIP CONFIRMED
When ARE YOU TWO MARRYING


p1 blanc? Siren ed,
or linked jackal? Feed to 2rl
Just Biscuit and Label supported so not risky if the team is slower
Tbf, 2.5rl b2 p1 is safe now, mostly because no one run siren anymore,
so very rarely a siren slow cindy would ruin your day.
There's still a couple in my CA. People copy my teams but don't have all the units or whatnot so they fill with RH or Siren
or run siren. And stun nero and watch bay absorb your cindy nuke 
Couldnt be me right
oh no... 
you got team order diffed 
improve your RNG ya sily 


I mean I got Siren this season too but it was 2rl noah on my 3.5rl Centi in a cindy team.
Well, u have union coalition so no way I could be sure 
🥧

if you see a ca member with the word ending in -pie, assume they're apart of the pie mafia
🥧
@umbral belfry going to beat ziz before me?
I haven't done hard in a while, I'm lazy 
so prolly not
is there an exception?

there's one but it begins with a naughty word starting with f and ending in a. they aren't apart of us 


Fkarapie 
If I were in a bracket where everyone (51%+) has high CS 18-21%, I would brick my scarlet to 20 ammo like @keen vapor and it would actually be a good thing.
too bad my bracket doesn't have that many guys with that much cs... probably less than 5-10

so extra 23% atk still better a deal
so maybe after another 2+ years, when everyone get their cs to 18% above, my scarlet would be 0% ammo.
I remember it was that time when doro asked for scarlet roll and we made him roll her ammo off then getting 4 ammo line.,, I still feel bad still this day and he already quitted game.
what 2+years, we gonna EoS sooner than that surely
plus CA will be out of beta surely
This is probably my biggest regret in this chat.
Maybe Doro would still be a mod if I didn't made him misunderstood and reroll for 4 ammo, 
not like you could've predicted meta anyway 

I only said ammo is good and he immediately roll for 4 ammo.... Siren was a thing back then and 1 ammo was enough. You were there too, no one stopped him at that time. 
I should have never made joke of Echo 0 ammo advise and keep doro ammo at 20. Maybe he wouldn't have quitted.
just move Helm or Vesti to p2
Oops sorry for delayed mesaage
Can i replace thingies to he better
I have jackal and biscuit idk if they r ok
You can but Idk your box
just ask rail
well, that team is already your highest CP, can't really improve much from that, you just need to level up
4 ammo or meta ammo either choice is fine, because one serves pve the other pvp
neither are entirely wrong, up to the individual
You don't need that much ammo with trina around, better roll for ATk and ele
change it up to either of these
- helmt vestiTU swha siren noah
- helmt nayuta vestiTU swha jackal (if helm is linked, else put vestiTU in p1)
- helmt vestiTU swha jackal noah
- helmt noah vestiTU biscuit moran
- helmt noah swha biscuit moran
when one fails try the other
I’m fine with it Blood 👌
can I ask for some elp? this guy finally managed to confuse me enough with his microjugglin back and forth after 2 weeks of squeezing him for gems (already forced him to waste 500 gems and forcepush some levels)
You wont guess how lucky the sr doll was
Arcana best girl
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Got spanked really hard... Help?
T1 he copied me from Rookie... He used to run LaPlace instead Xmaiden on T2. T3 got me surprised.
Rapunzel stun doesn't work when I try to apply it on, but when it's against me, works like a charm.
wth happened here lmao
Your jackal was detrimental, xmaiden one tapped your link
Yep.... One-hit kill
They have no soline on t3, better off pushing pressure to p5 with snipers or just bum rush rapu to ensure rapu death
So, I was thinking. Maybe throw my T2 against his T1, since probably my Rosanna would nuke his Helm and SW, and Nayuta should finish his Moran. Now for T2.... I really struggle against TVesti teams. For his T3, maybe make the same burst gen and throw noah to tank his Scarlet.
Any way I could beat this team? Last time I got lucky with the first team since it was a vesti indom vs vesti indom but not this time
i'd run these
I just want to see if my thought process is right.
lapt can be replaced?
clip RL tier
also I don't think I can catch up on t2 cp wise
Yes.
i'd run these
vestiTU and lappy or vestiTU and ada assumed linked, vestiTU on lowest HP in the link
Ok I try now and send clip
depends on what you've built, you can force them to misindom with siren or kill their p1 and p3 with rosanna
assuming rosanna is invested
noah biscuit helmt ros swha
else siren apporach
noah biscuit helmt siren swha
@tropic summit Sorry to ping you like this but, may you take a look on my clip? I don't want to bother you, but I want to see if my thought process is right. A suggestion would be helpful too.
run this then
trina in both - xmaiden?
You da bes
run these
clip RL bro, centi/rumani/trina/laplaceT/emilia
these are all clip RL
as for tips, T3 wants you badly to hit rapunzel to drop her to 30% or lower HP... so what you do is running multiple SRs which will be shooting p5 instead, way less chance rapunzel drops to HP range needed to stun you
T1 needs a slower team and with ideally blanc
T2 needs a slower indom
I see, thanks.
@tropic summit T3 it worked flawlessly. T2 I kinda improvised since I had less than one minute to reset.
Thx. The concept remained the same as before but, I'm gladly that worked out.
nah we remove feed and removed link this time around, as you can see that gives opponent enough time to cast B2 while jackal is still alive and lowest HP
Got any tips for his T1? His Moran it's way too absurd. Never met one Moran this hard to kill like this one.
that makes them misindom on jackal instead of indomming xmaiden
i gave you the cindy variant but lib variant should ensure lethal
essentially same team but with liberalio
Now Scarlet is attack only
try this one next time if he doesn't change T1
we introduce crown as additional buffer and also keeping your team slow, replace cindy and midhara with lib, add rapunzel instead of rumani to get your lib to revive after helmT snipes her at 2RL B3
she's good to sleep with, take showers with, take walks with 
Some 4D Chess play there.
Drink with....
first team seem to be rng and second team left dying against moran in this
did SWHA fail to kill enemy SWHA before she got killed in the trade off?
also did RH fail to get 2nd cycle going?
you were supposed to burst twice
centi also stole a biscuit stack you were supposed to use trina there, centi in the other team
let me try to convert and cut this
keep in mind biscuit will give a stack to any defender
you want noah to get both stacks
if you use centi or rumani, both can steal a biscuit stack
trina is a supporter so she won't
the logic of that team was to kill off most if not all their team during SWHA B3 with RH remaining your backup B3 for 2nd burst cycle
ye he used centi instead of trina
i assumed he knew how biscuit interacts with defenders, if anything he'll learn from this
well I'll try just before next reset then its ok
but what about team 1?
team 1 won before reset and lost this time
your rosanna is 40%atk?
35
Ah, Just notice... Lib's on T3. Should I replace Lib with Cindy? As you mentioned before or I should throw away the T3?
your rosanna + nayuta seem to not lethal enemy vestiTU
nayuta and rosanna are both OL'ed?
you're off for a very tiny %
you could always slap a slower indom or something similar
I mean I can throw some rocks at nayuta if that would help
Looks like they bursted just fast enough for vesti to indom before nayu dmg
do you have ein built?
ehhh lines are not good
nayuta was cast before blanc heal applied, it looks like he simply didn't lethal with nayuta B2
for a very tiny bit of dmg
nayuuta has good lines just bad values
doesn't matter she just needs to be SR5 and 4OL
she is certainly that
oke should win the trade off
run this next time
no need to treasure she'd used as flex unit that won't steal indom
okay I'll try this then, thanks for staying with me
I think this was when blanc burst. But i forgor if vesti aoe has delay
has delay, he was faster... i'm more concerned for this, we're still a bit earlier than them
i'd just fix nayuta and rosanna atk% and call it a day, indom duels are just cancer 
I can put video where t1 wins if that any helps
I did
nayuta https://iili.io/qvTeQNj.png
or needs even more?
should ensure you lethal then
nah i think 8-10% extra atk% will ensure lethal more than enough
@glad meteor blood correct me before but i also assumed vestiTU can kick you in natural 2RL, but turns out it's a 2.2RL-ish instead
meaning a 2RL ros+nayuta will hit both nukes before blanc is done casting B2, which also has a delay
unless this has changed with some shadow buff/nerfs but not that i am aware of
Nayu had the dmg i think
Ros and nayu are feeding p1 jackal
ye but they hitting 2RL with vestiTU 3rd rocket no?
if they're hitting 2RL with feed then it's a different story tho
since you are still talking about this
I haven’t done the math. Just watched the vid
ye blanc heal didn't kick off here yet
Math 
But vesti would be dead if so right
Nayuta and her sussy finger 
@glad meteor this one doesn't help much, ada got critted, helmT got to shoot vestiTU in p4 and lethal'ed her before nayuta B2 came in 
inb4 it's really a few frames that allow blanc B2 to go off in time because of feed
Also 275k on lvl 501 is good right?
the higher you're to the next tier the better
e.g. 88% to 2RL or 2.5RL with a jackal in your team means you only need 12% feed to be promoted to that burst gen tier
viceversa 69% to 2RL or 2.5RL means you'll need 31% feed to hit that tier, which means you'll struggle way more to be promoted to that burst gen tier
this is how much feed a single AR unit produces if you're running jackal in your team and that unit is shooting jackal herself or a linked unit

to be precise moran shoots 26 bullets and 32 bullets in 2RL or 2.5RL timeframe, leading to either 7% or 11% feed
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Why does jackal gain burst gen from enemies?
skill1
each 10 hits she or linked target recieve in total trigger her skill1 which produced her base burst gen of 3.55% and it can be increased by quantum
Which you would never know reading the skills in game because it doesn't say straight up you get burst generation
I'm surprised they have not re worded how she works
Just does for some reason, it applies a debuff on opps which counts for generating burst
Notably her link makes the 10 hits debuff easier to achieve and that debuff generates
Its just weirdly coded maybe counts as an attack that doesnt do damage
I'm convinced its bugged and works like that and they never fixed it, nothing in her skills reads you would get burst generation and you only find this out after extensive testing
Now its just a feature
well at the very beginning of nikke some units were clearly designed with the intention of being pvp strong, among those were
noise
emma
jackal
scarlet
rosanna
Right the damage share is strong, but the burstgen feed on jackal doesn't appear to be intended by the skill description
emma with jackal was a strong combo to sustain with
rosanna was meant to counter attackers and break jackal links
scarlet was meant to punish slower teams and high fire rate units
noise was meant to give your team sustain and tankyness
jackal was meant to give you burst gen and distributed damage
...the fact jackal became the most broken unit and still never got balanced is indeed lack of QoL on SU side
or maybe they fear if they touch anything in the code the game breaks 
could be very real lol
skill description in this game are by tradition just bad, the whole bay pre-treasure description is completely wrong and still isn't fixed, only in treasure they fixed the text lol
jackal treasure waiting room for fixed description
indeed, i've given up for the most part reading what skills do and rather see them tested and in cation 
i remember when midhara came out, people were literally confused what her kit was meant to do
Hi guys!
Can someone help me build some SPA defense team with these, pls^^?
High invested up to Liberalio and currently working on PrivatyT
( My CentiT is bricked ._. )
SP arena
- nayuta trina helmt rh laplaceT
- jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc drakeT
- moran noah siren biscuit swha
your centi doesn't look bricked, as long as you didn't phase 2 she's fine
Thank you!
i pre tested teams so this is as high as i go unless some break through happens
arcana rizzed me hard enough so i cooked a pertty godly set
for arcana i broke into 21b
Anger issues
Yeah theres just nothing else like it they have ever released, its probably a feature of how debuffs work but idk
do I bother trying to make a team here?

also figured 1330 MC isn't doable without a chunky ein or jill, which I don't have rn, so might have to wait til the next cp jump instead...or improve ein at some point
since last qte needs true dmg to break it due to the def stacks
imagine not building Ein

Seems like wipe to autoattacks angle
Like u could throw vesti nayuta rosa at it but anything else gets oneshot by autos
looks beatable





