pvp-arena

[frank ingot]

close fight, both won

[leaden canyon]

nice

[frank ingot]

Thank you for the help @leaden canyon

Thanks for the suggestions too @pulsar bough and @torn obsidian

[leaden canyon]

I was a little worried if scarlet would live or not, I run mine with tempering cube to help

[torn obsidian]

i'm surprised the scarlet lived yeah

[frank ingot]

I'll need to do this next time, I forgot to check the cube and had her equip a lv14 bastion

[torn obsidian]

[leaden canyon]

If you think trina can live through it, you can place her p2 instead og helm p2 so you get less splash on linked units

if trina lives through being p2 then scar health might not be as low as that, that was really close lmao

[frank ingot]

I'll test it out once this guy stole my spot again. thank you

[leaden canyon]

so like scarlet trina centi helm jackal

Even if trina dies at least centi can still go off, its if you have enough damage to kill without trina burst though

[leaden canyon]

no problem, good luck

[steel barn]

Hi guys, is there anything I should think about with these teams?

[leaden canyon]

Is that emilia actually 25%? thats overload charge speed only btw with CS cube

[steel barn]

I copied another persons comp from my bracket. I'm sure about his but mine can reach 25% with cube

[leaden canyon]

and just to confirm that is with JUST overload cs correct? because you are not adding the skill CS and then overload CS for the burstgen increase to 2RL

[steel barn]

Yeah I spent like 80 rocks on her a year ago or so

[leaden canyon]

ok cool

Slap a quantum on somebody there for it to acually be 2RL, your other teams can work but I do like jackal with scarlet more

put lap in maiden spot btw sense she has jackal link

[covert lintel]

Why medium for gear investment
Her buff comes from base atk, so it should be high priority

[leaden canyon]

Because shes a defender who gets super low attack increase from gear

Big credit sink for little value

Now upgrading her because you want her to live longer, sure

but if shes already doing that fine then you can save credits

[frank ingot]

Same guy stole my spot again

[leaden canyon]

if he didn't change anything then you should be good

[humble tiger]

And also CP padding.

[frank ingot]

But it seems like, my attacks were inconsistent

For my moran team, its like sometimes a win but sometimes my moran lost cause nayuta got strong with the bursts.
For my scar team, now enemy vesti getting indom'd

[humble tiger]

They really turned Moran to a Top B1 unit. Sickening.

[leaden canyon]

he might have changed some thing

[frank ingot]

nothing changed in teams but like, my attack is inconsistent 🤔

[leaden canyon]

If he got more cs on team 3 then blanc will indom in time

for more consistency on round 1 you can try the cindy teams we were talking about

moran noah biscuit cindy SWHA should be able to do it

also put quantum on jackal

quantum effects her feed

Can also attempt a different team

[frank ingot]

attempt the enemy moran team?

[leaden canyon]

well for that you would have to not be in deficit and then out stall it

scarlet noise trina helmT jackal

if you are in deficit it wont work

and even if you are not it depends how much moran hurts

with mihara

Vigor cube on noise

[tulip quest]

@hollow lagoon how's ur SR bro my Iron sucks

[frank ingot]

I tried this and put it also on my trina, now I won 🤔

[leaden canyon]

All about the speeds

we are down to the frames for that team

[hollow lagoon]

you are talking a 40-60 ele account for iron so nothing good

[frank ingot]

When I played against this, moran hits hard with mahara

[leaden canyon]

whats your cs on helmT trina, centi and jackal

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/interesting-are-you-sure-hmmm-ryan-reynolds-deadpool-gif-16768033426439603915

not good huh

[hollow lagoon]

ofcourse overpowered

make me feel sad

why u do dis

[tulip quest]

bro It wasn't Sarcasm

[hollow lagoon]

idk why u use miranda

[frank ingot]

15% on helmT and trina, 17%, for centi, around 6% only for jackal

[hollow lagoon]

could done way better without miranda

[tulip quest]

who can take her place?

[hollow lagoon]

phase 2 privity

[tulip quest]

u know that 5 team is assuming I have Chisato right

n no privaty

[hollow lagoon]

no privity?

[tulip quest]

yea

[hollow lagoon]

why no?

[tulip quest]

Bruh I would use her if I have

I chose Moran

[hollow lagoon]

u cant derp out a no OL privity?

[hollow lagoon]

why looks like ur gonna use vesti then

[tulip quest]

hmmm I have no black stuff but

[tulip quest]

what's ur vesti score?

[hollow lagoon]

i didnt use

didnt test that team only burst true damage when shield is up

[shell hazel]

is 17.8B really 179th?

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel how can i cheat out a phase 3 priv

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/throwing-money-throwing-money-away-money-throwing-baby-throwing-money-black-and-white-gif-3154333081013837223

[hollow lagoon]

rnadomness box gave me a bunch of centi and zewi stuff

which as you know tis useless

[shell hazel]

my cope teams @tulip quest

[leaden canyon]

Ok so he isn't out speeding you for sure yet, this is assuming he has 15% on jackal and maiden with at elast 11% on vesti and quantum on jackal, if he does this he will out speed you. That blue line on the bottom right is you and that third dot is your b3 going off, it goes off after his b2 as you can see on his red line of the 2nd dot

[hollow lagoon]

ur cope involves investing 2 collab units

[shell hazel]

chisato mid invest takina barely at all (except skill 2 a little)

[hollow lagoon]

did u slap OL

[shell hazel]

only on chisato

takina has no ol

[tulip quest]

It will drop for sure

[hollow lagoon]

mmmmmmMMMMMMMmMMMMMMMmmMmMMMMMMM

[leaden canyon]

right now if I had to guess your fight is like this

super close in frames

[tulip quest]

Isn't my teams the cope I have no collabs

[shell hazel]

4/8/4 with SR-0 doll, because I doubt it matters if i max her doll out later

i'm probably like 9 months - 1 year away from being able to spend doll mats on her vs existing or new units so I'll just live with SR-0 lol

[shell hazel]

banners still up right!?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136907312544624690/1141724638259445938/silverwolf_justpull.gif

[frank ingot]

so like, is there a chance for a whiff to happen during this fights? I also forgot to say that centi is also in quantum

[tulip quest]

before u brick urself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqtrk4h5j0Y

[tulip quest]

No gems So pass

not of not wanting but of not having any

[shell hazel]

I saw that, bro literally says nothing about how to not brick her just warns not to over-invest and then doesn't say what it actually means lol

[tulip quest]

he means on Electric team

[leaden canyon]

centi quantum doesn't affect the speeds here from the data, but what I'm guessing happened with it being this close in frames, is that your scar went off and didn't one shot vesti and blanc and a frame later blanc goes off with vesti getting indomed

[tulip quest]

don't out dps the carries is the summarization

[leaden canyon]

I cant say for sure without a video recording

[tulip quest]

cause Miranda buffs Highest damage Unit 2 highest atk

U would wan't those 2 atk buff on your carry cause Takina has self 80% atk buff on max level

[shell hazel]

I don't think I'd have the problem of over-invest on her anyway, she's LB0 and I'm just going with bare min of what works

[leaden canyon]

Actually what level is your quantum cube

is it 7?

[frank ingot]

11

[leaden canyon]

oh ok

[tulip quest]

yea right now you have no problem

until shift up temps u with 14% black line atks on 4 lines later

[shell hazel]

haha maybe we'll see

I won't spend much on her anyway she's just a support

[leaden canyon]

If you are a mad man you can go for emilia 25% overloads CS with cs cube

[frank ingot]

so, what should I do to be like, consistent winning against that team

[leaden canyon]

well you can blanc rrh it

I actually dont even remember if you have rrh

[frank ingot]

I could but, only have emi at 17%

[frank ingot]

I do have her, yes

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel aint a good trade

maybe i'm running takina wrong

[shell hazel]

nah I just run what works, she helps a lot on the parts, I don't have any invest on Eve so she was out of the question

I do want to invest eve but I ran out of gear xp, rocks, skill books so she'll have to wait

[hollow lagoon]

@tulip quest idk if my comp is runable for you, redcube is important for breakpoints

[shell hazel]

my label has no invest either, I think I'm done malding the teams though this SR I'll prob just try to beat my own score on final day or so

I don't have destro cube levelled at all so it's not something I can run, prio resi and temperance

[tulip quest]

Label not built, no PrivaT, No Chisato, I don't wanna Mald my shotgun

[hollow lagoon]

sg is not maldy

just soak it (except the big charge blast)

[leaden canyon]

You can do this hopefully your rrh has enough ammo to beat out the blanc indom

This is assuming you cant move biscuit from the other team

actually let me check the frames here

thats actually a bit too fast

[shell hazel]

SG isn't too bad but I need nayuta tbh to make it comfy, without her I can die to stuff for sure

[hollow lagoon]

i done enuff of this boss back when malding hard mode

some times u get lucky and avoid some time u just hide during toves 10 million year cooldown

[shell hazel]

my maldiest run is prob the snow white one because she can either one tap the shields or just miss them totally lol

[hollow lagoon]

u do however manpulate your way into it so when the aoe blast happens u get to hide a bit when tove id doing her 10 trillion micro second count down

[shell hazel]

or somewhere in the middle

[hollow lagoon]

my snow white cant 1 tap

[shell hazel]

can usually 1 tap first one, 2nd one is more of a question

[frank ingot]

this is how my rrh equipped rn

[hollow lagoon]

well i could if i miranda

but i dont need miranda

because snow white kill the thing anyways in 3 regular charged shots

so i dont want her to be doing the big blast during the shields

or

[glad meteor]

🐳

[hollow lagoon]

it actually dosnt matter

[shell hazel]

i'll test a bit more on that team team I guess

[hollow lagoon]

u cant do it because ur miranda, u also need the red cube

[leaden canyon]

Are you in deficit with this?

[hollow lagoon]

its a matter of cube choice

[glad meteor]

Nah. Need certain level of atk

[leaden canyon]

if you are in deficit with this one then RIP

[glad meteor]

High defence

Pierce can only do so much if low attack

[hollow lagoon]

what pierce multiple

u aint piercing nothing

[glad meteor]

Then what’s the destruction cube for

[glad meteor]

Ah

i could try that

[hollow lagoon]

i was running

not destruction cube

and then i ran destruction cube

and then i see +200m

and i'm sold

[swift mango]

My luck is dogshit today as well. 15 rocks for zero Ele, 1 tier 1 line 1 ATK ALONE.

[frank ingot]

yeah, in deficit

[hollow lagoon]

normal

[swift mango]

I didn't lock anything.

It has been for 3 months

[hollow lagoon]

welcom to zant's rolling luck buddy boi

[swift mango]

Idk why I farm everyday for anything anymorem

[hollow lagoon]

savour it

[leaden canyon]

how many shots does his vesti have?

[swift mango]

Nah you got better lines than mine with half the play time.

[hollow lagoon]

i paid for it

[swift mango]

How much rock can a whale buy in 1 year compare to a F2P in 2 years

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

I gonna stop rock rolling and save for 1000

[leaden canyon]

I mean if you can kill round 1 with noah noise biscuit cindy rumani

You can go back to killing round 3 with moran anchor helmT trina SWHA

[glad meteor]

Rock celibacy

[swift mango]

Since I couldn't even get AtK or ele line that's not line one in the last month.

And those line are rare. Much more rare than 1/9

[rich quail]

It’s ABSTINENCE

ROCK ABSTINENCE

[glad meteor]

The main man is here

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/hatchetfield-abstinence-camp-nightmare-time-starkid-boy-jerry-gif-2148350107946880430

[frank ingot]

I forgot, my bad

[rich quail]

Believe it

know it

live it

[frank ingot]

I might try this if he stole my spot again. Thank you

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-matteson-starkid-team-starkid-abstinence-camp-camp-idonwannabang-gif-12866188251242760319

[swift mango]

[rich quail]

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/meditation-gif-17436395583685247793

https://tenor.com/view/yoga-playa-concentrate-gif-13141150

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/storm-gif-1462677081791249165

|| except rocks ||

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-no-enemies-thorfinn-vinland-saga-gif-5711191156787573185

[rich quail]

They are not your enemies

||You just have to block them for weeks

nay, months||

https://tenor.com/view/pendulum-gif-25391149

[swift mango]

The anime down played how battered his face was in the manga

[shell hazel]

he doesn't have much of a face left 🙁

[swift mango]

What face?

I got tons of CS today. I wished I was rolling for Emi instead. Oh well.

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-no-enemies-thorfinn-vinland-saga-gif-5711191156787573185

[shell hazel]

I've been trying to roll ele on line 1 rapi for a while and I keep getting cs lol

[gusty elk]

any attacker/defender updates i need for consideration for SP?

[shell hazel]

hello again! did you sign in to Nikke lately?

[crystal flicker]

no

[shell hazel]

I saw you were behind on last CA :9

[crystal flicker]

I think it's almost 3 weeks

[shell hazel]

you still got through lol

your SPA must be asleep

in my SPA you'd be long out of top 4 by now

[crystal flicker]

I've been pushing Endfield, and just finished the Endgame

[swift mango]

Quitted game?

[shell hazel]

there isn't much end game to endfield either tbh

[crystal flicker]

THE FIELD IS ENDING

[crystal flicker]

Yeh, just collecting all Trim medal

[shell hazel]

I'm just casual on endfield I think I'm mainly just going to stick around for the factory and the story which I hope they improve

[gusty elk]

@tropic summit and yes i am working on Moran atm, but lacking resources

[crystal flicker]

Yeah compared to OG, EF seems lacking in story

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-homer-simpsons-hide-disappear-gif-16799752

[shell hazel]

yeah I heard the story was good on normal AK

[crystal flicker]

It is good, but it is also tons of text

[shell hazel]

unless you do the nikke dailies you're just slowly bricking yourself

how many sync you missed already?

and event things 😄

[crystal flicker]

I gave up on CA lol

[shell hazel]

btw we had tenshi vs moran guy final

so usual people at the top

[crystal flicker]

Yeah, as long as that mf still there, I wont win anything

[swift mango]

3 weeks so apparently union as well.

[crystal flicker]

I hate doing dailies

[shell hazel]

yeah I gave up on CA tbh I just send teams for fun, they do OK sometimes but actually winning is hard here 😄

[swift mango]

Then don't play gacha.

[shell hazel]

I don't care anymore about CA, I'll just invest my raid and pve instead more

[swift mango]

At this point I can only play CA because OL doesn't matter much there. I can't get anything from the rocks I have.

Not even campaign.

[crystal flicker]

I did play Valo instead

I mean, I'm pretty much CP gapped for hard campaign, so nothing left to do in Nikke either

Cooked

Rail still there

[remote apex]

What teams could i make for SP ARENA plz ?

[shell hazel]

I'm not sure how long I'll want to keep going with endfield dailies either tbh, will see for now but they're hardly quick

nikke ones are easier, have to spend stamina in endfield

[crystal flicker]

No

Just upgrade

[shell hazel]

can't sweep farming stages in endfield

which is something they really should add

[crystal flicker]

Leveling mats yes

Essence just afk with facilities

[shell hazel]

may as well let me sweep that too then lol

[crystal flicker]

I'm pretty much done farming Endfield too

[shell hazel]

as someone else said, nature of gacha games is the daily grind I guess

they all want your attention every day

[crystal flicker]

Nikke still dont have sweep for sim room?

[shell hazel]

sim room does

AI is once a week fight boss

[crystal flicker]

Oh ye I rmb

[shell hazel]

I can auto S7 kraken so that isn't a big drama either

[crystal flicker]

I need "Skip the whole Event story" feature

It's not cannon why do I need to care smh

[rich quail]

You should care

[glad meteor]

[rich quail]

F||ight|| them kids

[glad meteor]

[rich quail]

[tropic summit]

[rich quail]

||plz no ban||

https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-dipsy-running-away-scared-run-away-gif-25928776

[cedar sorrel]

Somehow my def is holding up in pos 14

[swift mango]

Play long enough without quitting and u would blue CP hard

[crystal flicker]

And they will add more chapter

[swift mango]

Players level up faster than chapter coming out

[glad meteor]

Wait till we have another campaign nerf

Surface got scrapped so no hex things for a long time

[tropic summit]

Zizx at 581 or go home

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

and thank the gods for this, imagine having to play that sh*t

[glad meteor]

You underestimate my poop cp

[rich quail]

[north brook]

Tbh u dont need to blue hard for it to be easy

[glad meteor]

Mast anchor moran rapi mihara is really shi burst gen though

[rich quail]

I’m at 589 and Ziz has 2300 lifebars at time over

[tropic summit]

houston, we've a problemo

[north brook]

I just autoed all the recent hard chp with swha sbs at like 30% defecit

Only need to think on boss

Swha really the goat of auto battle

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-fail-fail-funny-rocket-gif-21813015

[north brook]

All u should need is to minmax rapi tbh with a rapi hyper carry team

[rich quail]

My Rapi is currently too expensive to minmax

[north brook]

Ull need to anyway

[rich quail]

But I am pvp recreationalist

Who hasn’t won a CA championship

[north brook]

Even if its line 1 black elem on all pieces rapi like one of 2 units u should minmax

[rich quail]

If it was so easy

I would have done it on Thirsday

[swift mango]

But the fact is still that you can blue it as F2P if you played long enough

[north brook]

Ya is true, point just its already free for year 1 players

[rich quail]

I don’t have any unit that has 1 black line on all 4 gears

That’s like… fantasy island, man

[north brook]

I mean even if u need to lock line 1 and gamble for rapi do it

[cedar sorrel]

Nah nah nah thats so wasteful

[north brook]

Only unit on her lvl is swha lol

[cedar sorrel]

Just lock 3rd lock 2nd get 1st then change % so u have 3 chances for a good blue/black line

[rich quail]

What I got

[north brook]

Tbh all u need is to get 4th elem

[tropic summit]

how many years from now

[north brook]

That not a disaster at all

[rich quail]

3 years after EoS

[cedar sorrel]

Yea so here u can perma block black line and keep rolling to get ammo/atk 2nd line

Or lock 3rd gear 3rd 2nd line and roll for ele

[rich quail]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/good-deal-damn-good-deal

[north brook]

On that glove reroll to get a blue atk/ammo

Then perma lock and use temp on other one to get elem line 1

[cedar sorrel]

U got pretty unlucky with getting mid lines as 2nd so it could cost a lot of.rocks.to optimise

Or be greedy and lock 3 and 1 but I think this is risky and wsteful

[rich quail]

Done a while back

[glad meteor]

Time to 3 rock roll or bent

[north brook]

I meant on glove

That piece fine

Rapi wants 4 ele 4 atk 3 ammo 1 cr/cd

Urs alr mostly good anyway, mainly needs 4th elem, could use better ammo rolls

[cedar sorrel]

Oh I didnt know ab that I thought 4 ammo

[cedar sorrel]

My rrh is 11/12 then

[north brook]

4 ammo usable too its not big deal

Just need enough ammo to fire full burst

[glad meteor]

Rapi has crown most the time. Its just ur now, where she really needs ammo lines

[swift mango]

I probably could blue newest hard chapter 3 years from now

[lunar pawn]

we can finally slap resi cube back on redpi

[north brook]

Ya less not death sentence, mostly bit more dmg from not reloading as often to have more

[lunar pawn]

crown+tpriv+cube, over 100% reload

[swift mango]

Crown+Privaty+Mmast no need resilience

[north brook]

Ya privT bringing instant load makes things easier now

[lunar pawn]

you're not using tpriv as offburst then

bastion won't do anything at 100% reload anyway

[north brook]

Think privT would only be bursting on water weak, otherwise want helm

Destruction cube meta

[lunar pawn]

helm gives like 27% atk dmg, tpriv gives 20% atk dmg, 23% atk and 50% reload

[north brook]

Ya helm + priv not mmast

[lunar pawn]

if SR you'd run a diff team probably

[north brook]

Saw a few doing it instead of eve and running maids with sbs lib

[lunar pawn]

I used both but in diff teams

this was good mock though, but don't feel like redoing my score atm

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-anime-omg-wtf-cant-unsee-gif-5159766

[swift mango]

Ofc you only need 1 DPS.

[lunar pawn]

redpi counts as 3 dps

[swift mango]

SW count as 4.

[lunar pawn]

if you got the right investment, right boss, and right levels of malding, sure

but not everyone wants to start balding in their teens

or do they

[north brook]

Noah taunt?

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G7-SHMUXwAUTK1j.gif

[warm monolith]

Yall, uh. Is this ranking justified?

[shell hazel]

for moran? yes I think so

she was good before now she just even better

[north brook]

Yes

[warm monolith]

Damn

[north brook]

Rapi b1 should be sss though

Those 3 are all same amount as good

Siren just been coasting because rapi b3 is also op

[tulip quest]

Head and Shoulders knees and toes knees and toes ---- and shoulders knees and toes, oh hey isn't a body part missing?

[tulip quest]

ya

[shell hazel]

might be because rapi is usually best as b3 not b1

otherwise yes rapi is also just as good as a b1 really

[tulip quest]

rapi b1 is good damage 7seconds CDR but not much damage + for all team

[shell hazel]

I say usually because sometimes she makes sense as b1

[north brook]

Ya thats only reason

[shell hazel]

I ran as b1 for CC I think

[tulip quest]

unlike Moran with damage reduction and Siren burst gen with multi hits

[north brook]

Rapi b1 more dmg than siren tho

[tulip quest]

yea but only that as b1

[north brook]

Less utility

[tulip quest]

exactly

[north brook]

Rapi b1 usually best in defecit for elec and water until moran, now mainly just water

But its really only because theres so few strong enough b3s

[swift mango]

Nah, for campaign siren is justified. Her stun countered tons of stuff. Rapi b1 just do nothing.

[north brook]

Why so many 50% defecit clears rapi b1 tho

Xd

[swift mango]

Whatever Rapi b1 does before Moran just replace her.

There are many 50% deficit? Such liar

[north brook]

I mean its by same guy, diff stages

[swift mango]

Only some guys do stage at that deficit. Rapipi is mostly for boss that strong against Wind or needs that extra Dmg/mg

Which Moran cover mostly

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

For me, SW is better than Rapi even. Mobile MG already deal less dmg and stuff. Harder to aim. SW just pierce to boss to finish stage easily.

Ofc it's for neutral.

[shell hazel]

onto water weak chapters now so SW should be great here

[swift mango]

Then walled at ziz

[shell hazel]

then walled at ziz indeed

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-sad-gif-10692536301102666475

I'll have to see how far I can push through 39/40 later, but yeah no way I'm escaping 40

i'll jump 521 then save for next chapters prob

[tulip quest]

I hate ZIZ it's made to make u feel really gated

not just cp but literally can't damage those eyes flying around here

Like Mirror container

[rich quail]

Is it even possible?

I figured it wasn’t

[tulip quest]

possible to destroy it Either True damage

or High enough cp

[rich quail]

Oh

Well, I don’t have that

[tulip quest]

1 guy ran in the past VesT comp with Emma eunwha lowest clear that time

[tulip quest]

ZIZ is like Mirror container hard gate keeper boss

[rich quail]

It does its job well

[north brook]

True dmg required to damage them at all

[rich quail]

I’m 589 and I have 2300 lifebars remaining at time over

[tulip quest]

I think it's possible at meta comp 541 right now

Moran Crown Manchor Rapi HelmT

[analog locust]

hi all, i need some advice on which cube to put to my pvp sp defense teams. resilience, bastion, quantum are lv 15. adjutant lv 9. vigor lv 7, tempering lv 6. have others too, can ask

1. noah centi cinderella Helm.T noise
2. scarlet siren trina xMaiden Jackal
3. blanc SWHA biscuit Liberalio rumani

[tulip quest]

or MMast MAnchor Rapi Moran HelmT

[rich quail]

That was my best team

[tulip quest]

Tanks like Noah wants tempering, scarlet tempering also, Cindy wants Hp Cube, Noise hp cube (vigor) mostly just adjutant for cp

[tulip quest]

if you still can't finish then investment issues or need more levels (cp)

[rich quail]

Actually, using MMast in place of MAnchor was my best team

With MAnchor I only got to 3000 life bars

[tulip quest]

thats good if u can Mmast instead of anchor cause Anchor is use to survive wipe skill

how element is ur rapi?

she is really worth it for Iron weak, n Fire weak raid

• MQ also

[analog locust]

owh, even for the DPS ?

[tulip quest]

yea for dps usually highest level cube cp+stats

SPA is really cp dependent

[north brook]

He just needs 4th elem rapi tbh

[rich quail]

3 atk 3 ele dmg

I tried to reroll to get 4 of both, but I’m lucky to have what I have now

It’s gonna cost me 3 rocks each time to reroll at this point

[analog locust]

that means shouldnt i use my quantum/resilience/bastion cubes? since they are maxed out

[tulip quest]

focus on Element for Rapi

[rich quail]

Yeah I know which gear to roll

[tulip quest]

Pushing Hard campaign 1priority in Nikke

Campaign > HC > SPA > Solo

C and HC gives Levels = Easier SPA = Gems per 14 weeks

Solo raid shud be last prio as it's harder to build for Solo raid than SPA

[jolly maple]

am i winning

[tulip quest]

Yea I think so

this is not deficit right?

[jolly maple]

~77%

[north brook]

That kinda low cp both teams

[jolly maple]

acc is OL brick what take others 100 rocks me take 500

[tulip quest]

mine is usually 200 rocks XD

[north brook]

Think my comp same team and 630 is 2m cp

[tulip quest]

ASSUMING I'm lucky that is ASSUMING

[north brook]

Why 679 so low too lol

[tulip quest]

investments or rock rolls probably

[jolly maple]

OL effect value

[tulip quest]

yea roll levels also

[jolly maple]

my biscuit is 4/12

[north brook]

Ya hes prob just not that pvp invested either

Weird because he maxed the dolls tho

[jolly maple]

i'm winning this one

[jolly maple]

I lost didn't even get to burst

[tulip quest]

if ur scarlet doesn't reload probably?

oh he has CS lines?

[jolly maple]

enemy slow burst blanc die early

[tulip quest]

how did you lose then cp disadvantage?

[jolly maple]

I mean enemy blanc didn't get to burst

[unreal dawn]

Can someone help me arrange the team lineup for PVP ?

help :((

[swift mango]

It is.

[unreal dawn]

it so hard in pvp 🙁

[swift mango]

Liar. Even my luck only have a few units I used 200+ rocks on. Let's say you have 1 more year of rock over me (not that much), you don't have enough rock to spend 200 on every units.

[swift mango]

Use 💳 and it would be easy

[unreal dawn]

do you have any suggestion

any good team to use

[swift mango]

Maybe in a bit. You lack Noah. Could still do 2rl Nayuta, Bay/x+Biscuit, Blanc teams I guess

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit he changed teams, help

[uncut cradle]

What's best lineupnfor moran?

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit I recorded it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJBg3tA2cMM

[scarlet adder]

question, if blanc cast indom and there are 2 units with equally the lowest hp, the indom gets the most left one i would guess?

i am always putting worse cube on one of them to be certain that she will have lowest hp but i am curious xD

[shell hazel]

bear in mind that units have like millions of cp, I highly doubt there is basically ever a case where they both have equally the lowest

[scarlet adder]

hmmm

[swift mango]

Try, but OL units like Biscuit, Jackal, Trina and Rumani asap. They are staples for Arena.

[shell hazel]

vigor won't show unless in combat

[scarlet adder]

they don't have vigor on xD

[shell hazel]

so easy to make one of them have more with vigor

[scarlet adder]

i know

[shell hazel]

that's why you put vigor on the one you don't want to indom in this case

[scarlet adder]

i am just taking off cube

[shell hazel]

otherwise you may well be rolling the dice with exactly the same hp

likely the game will have to pick one and it could be left but who knows? doubt anyone tested it

[swift mango]

[scarlet adder]

that's what i mean, am i rolling the dice?

i think the most left one would get it

[shell hazel]

you'd have to test it

[swift mango]

Should be left. But cube matters. Level 7 cube has more HP than level 6 cube for example. There's also doll.

[shell hazel]

think doll stats do show on main page?

[swift mango]

Not sure

[shell hazel]

pretty sure it does

[scarlet adder]

everything expect vigor buff or nikke buffs show in main menu

[shell hazel]

overload lines don't show

stuff like atk won't appear in the atk stat until you're in combat

[stuck pike]

anything considered a "skill" which includes OL, cubes, and dolls doesn't show, but the base stats given by cubes, dolls, etc. does.

[shell hazel]

damn you're red now as well

[stuck pike]

gold ||at heart||

[shell hazel]

Nesso is typing, he also needs to become red

[timber depot]

at what RL does Siren stun

[lone sequoia]

i always forget... rosanna dispel work on cubes?

[swift mango]

In 2 years

[stuck pike]

faster than just 2 RL.

[swift mango]

Actually slower

[stuck pike]

you need CS on some RL or SWHA/tHelm

[shell hazel]

nikke.top shows siren stun timing
http://nikke.top/

[timber depot]

Thats weird, I'm facing people who are 2.5RL before quantum, and my Siren is stunning them and they get burst off

I stun their b1 as they enter b2

[stuck pike]

it'll stun b2 at normal 2 rl. you need a bit more burst gen. if were talking b1, its fine though.

[swift mango]

Siren stun around 3rl. But you need 2rl with 11% CS for B2 to avoid the stun.

[shell hazel]

it will depend on CS

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

he is saying b1 is avoiding it on 2.5RL team

in which case it will because of positioning or CS

[timber depot]

its a 97 burst at 2RL

[shell hazel]

b1 at 2RL always avoids it

[timber depot]

so i think quantum could make the diff

[shell hazel]

it probably is 2RL with some quantums then

b1 2RL can never get siren

[timber depot]

I assume thats whats happening

[shell hazel]

it may also avoid if it's like 2.2RL or so

[timber depot]

I just remember I'd get stun, they have Crown, and I'd see crown shield right after stun

[shell hazel]

always assume opponents have quantums on stuff like centi, jackal etc

[timber depot]

yea, I think I might have to make my rookie team 2RL, I am only barely beating a Liberalio team right now because I kill Liberalio before her burst lands

[shell hazel]

you can put the exact team into the top site I linked and see when it fires more definitively

[timber depot]

I am 2.5 RL, I assume they are 2RL but lib dies so I live

[shell hazel]

best rookie team is probably like moran noah helmT sw/vesti flex etc, but if you run it opponents will also run it probably 😄

[timber depot]

I have Moran but im 80 mileage off getting her to lb2 for treasure

silver mileage ofc

[shell hazel]

keep hunting her material on the daily dispatch for now though

[timber depot]

Ye ofc

I am going for her before Privaty even though im pve mainly

[shell hazel]

I have over 400 ordinary tickets moran will be getting some dupes

[timber depot]

still noahless tho

[stuck pike]

Liberalio's burst will kill anything at equal CP that doesn't have Sakura/Noah protecting you usually if you don't kill her first, though it's plausible to survive with Moran or Noise or just letting everyone die except a nayuta, a blanc indom'd target, or Biscuit invuln proc shenanigans

[shell hazel]

no noah

[timber depot]

Yes I am killing her before it lands, I dont think I could live otherwise. She has equal ish damage to SW:HA at end screen so I think her lib is def landing, just unbuffed

[stuck pike]

Sakura isnt blind usable on def.

[lone sequoia]

pve* the best 3 units in the game are swha/helmT/moranT

[stuck pike]

even if you think your enemies gonna run lib, they can just run something else

[timber depot]

Yeah, I feel like its a tossup for my acc between Moran and Privaty for SR but Moran wins easily since I want another reliable B1

[stuck pike]

tmoran is fine with phase 2, tprivaty needs phase 3

if you have to only choose one to phase 3

[timber depot]

ill be getting both to phase 3 anyways, issue is both of them are at 0/3 so its going to take a while

by the time I get the second one, first one will probably have been p3 for a while

[shell hazel]

morant gets my vote but if you lack the dupes you lack the dupes

[lone sequoia]

you will get the mats next solo raid

[shell hazel]

great in pvp as well as campaign

[oak hatch]

So if I want to calculate the real hp of my nikke, I should add the hp stat of the current doll level to the stat page hp?

[timber depot]

Definitely going Moran first, B1 feels way more important to my acc atm and having another team option for survivability on top of that feels super flexible for SR cooking

[swift mango]

B1 could avoid stun but the 2.5rl is actually around 2.2rl.

You need 21% (+13%) CS Emi as the trigger for that 2.5rl to burst.

[shell hazel]

yep 100%

[stuck pike]

All the base stats are already there on the character page. What I said was skill based attributes. That includes special stats, atk/def overloads, and vigor's hp buff.

[timber depot]

Good part of starting so late, no Emilia in my bracket

[swift mango]

Or just SW 2nd shoot

[timber depot]

Yeah unfortunately everyone seems to have pulled SW 😔

[shell hazel]

yup no emi here either

always gotta expect that haha

[lone sequoia]

rerun this year... i hope

[shell hazel]

it's those who pull c7 sw you really gotta worry about

[shell hazel]

I'd not mind it tbh, but I want them to expand it and add best girl Priscilla

[swift mango]

But I want my makima.

[timber depot]

I pretty much want to make my rookie team exactly what Hippos said. 4/5 of them would already get invested just for PvE lmao, so Id only have to give Noah some investment outside of that

Moran-Noah-Vesti-SWHA-HelmT

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/priscilla-priscilla-barielle-barielle-re-zero-anime-gif-3358407691965120483

[lone sequoia]

f-ck csm... you will never get "SW"

[timber depot]

Im not going to win against someone whaling that hard so its w/e, im currently winning against whales in my bracket but its only a matter of time for them to swipe more

[shell hazel]

they're all just awaiting new lines of credit maybe 😄

[lone sequoia]

new anime season this year? i don't think we will get a new collab and probably the first one was the 2nd worst collab

[timber depot]

Theres only so much of a gap I can make for myself by trying to learn good PvP team building 😭, money will dominate at the end of the day, whales really need their monthly 3k gems

[shell hazel]

maybe? I liked last season

[shell hazel]

weird thing is a lot of them spend way more money on sync and stuff than the 3k will ever give them back

what is the street value of 3k gems?

[timber depot]

yeah idk, its kinda the same with SR, I wish I could just view non whale team setups instead

[lone sequoia]

thinking about it a little more... i have no problem with a new collab, what i would hate is one with nanatsu/7ds

[timber depot]

id much rather look at team setups of people in top 3% to get a good idea of what to run than whoever has swiped the most money in top 50

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/reze-gif-14777144828782765866

[oak hatch]

To be sure u mean the stat on the bottom left is already added?

[stuck pike]

Noah can be stunned out of her burst which also stops your burst chain unless your burst gen is fast enough to avoid it via charge speed.

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

This is brilliant

#pvp-arena message

But I like this more.

[timber depot]

What would stun her out of it? I thought 2RL would outspeed Siren

[shell hazel]

Reze fan? 😄

CSM pt. 2 and makima/Reze could show up lol

[stuck pike]

Without any CS modifiers, this is one example.

[timber depot]

also since id only use Noah for PvP, i could just aim for CS on all her pieces

[swift mango]

Not that much but I would like her more than the other

[timber depot]

Kind of hard to see whats happening since Ive never seen this, but green line is Noah I assume, when does B2 finish?

[lone sequoia]

i have problems with csm/jujutsu/one piece fans (those are dead)

[swift mango]

This too because why not.

[shell hazel]

even as a spender of sorts I find I need to balance cp and stats, I can't just get CS and call it a day will be weak cp

[timber depot]

oh nvm pink is noah

[stuck pike]

p1 or p2 lm will stun Noah as you can see where the 2nd dot on the burst is at compared to stun line

you need CS to avoid it

[timber depot]

oh ofc, Id aim for all the gear to have 3 lines, but I wouldnt really need to worry past that, aiming for max CS and all pieces have 2+ lines would probably be fine

atleast for a while

[shell hazel]

not even 3 lines for me just CS + something else for pad usually is good

[timber depot]

yeah thatll be good enough for a while, since the other 4 on that team will get high investment

im currently saving doll mats for moran / privaty but my rookie team is 3 sr15, an sr5 and I think an r15

3 sr15 and 2 sr5, but its 2.5RL which is a little troublesome

Havent lost yet, but dont want to start losing

[shell hazel]

baby commander 👶

[timber depot]

yeah lol, i got a lucky start and tried paying some attention to PvP stuff since its so many monthly gems

[shell hazel]

it's more than sr ranking

[timber depot]

been trying to invest good pve units that would also be useful in PvP

[shell hazel]

yeah that is the best move

moran def fits there, actually priv a lot less so imo

[timber depot]

Maintained C1 in sparena since I started after I got some help from railtracer on teams

raking in the money

[shell hazel]

she's situationally good in pvp but not a core one

[timber depot]

yes definitely going Moran first, my b1 options in pvp are a bit of an issue

[stuck pike]

A few things in this picture. Bsoda has Sr15 doll and lvl 2 helm, but MBC is also c1 vs Bsoda's MLB.

[swift mango]

SW, Helm, Moran basically those.

[timber depot]

Yep Helm is on my main campaign team, same with SW, and Moran im aiming for in 80 more silver mileage

[swift mango]

Then Label, Ada

[timber depot]

dont have Ada, which sucks

[swift mango]

Label only for SR and not even that good

[stuck pike]

label is usable in story if you're missing things. highest atk buff in the game besides RH

[oak hatch]

130k*

[swift mango]

No one is missing things here.

[stuck pike]

he just said he's missing Noah.

[swift mango]

Vesti as well for story ofc.

[timber depot]

Im missing Ada/Jill because I was going off bad information when I started, and Winter Soline for the same reason, but outside of that Ive basically pulled everything I could

[timber depot]

Yeah shes 4OL, not very high power tho, but am using her in SPA

[stuck pike]

ada is the really casualty there

[swift mango]

That for arena.

[stuck pike]

You said no one is missing things.

[oak hatch]

Actually nvm, it seems doll stat attack is in the 4 digits and nikke attack is in 5 digits so I confused them

[timber depot]

Yup, but no point crying over spilled milk u feel me

Noah has just dodged me off wishlist perma

My Rapi is at 3/3 spare bodies

all off wishlist, but im still missing 3 pilgrims lol

[swift mango]

For Campaign. People coming to this chat usually already done with their campaign teams.

[timber depot]

🙏 Noah will come home soon

[swift mango]

Label is the 11th option for burst 1 in campaign.
Especially with claimable Liter.

[stuck pike]

dolls add to your base stats, this is why everyone tells you to max them on your DPS. Your atk buffs whether its from the Nikke itself or from things like Liter or Tprivaty or just OL in general offer = notable gains.

[stuck pike]

People do use Noah sometimes for campaign. Mainly at high deficit to survive Ziz pre-tmoran and the like btw. Its definitely used in tower for rebuild cucumber, but tmoran will alleviate that as well.

[oak hatch]

Yeah makes sense, it was more of me reading the numbers wrong, idk why I always read nikke base stats as 4 numbers

[swift mango]

High deficit Ziz you would care more about Dmg than survival. Maid Anchor exist

[stuck pike]

manchor wont always keep you alive at high enough deficit, thats why some low clears that werent just absolute killing the eyes involved Noah in the first place.

[swift mango]

And no lacking a Liter when reaching Ziz

[swift mango]

At high enough deficit, Noah won't help you kill.

At the deficit you could kill it, Anchor is enough to survive

[stuck pike]

Its a trade off, you lose a small amount of manchor's atk and more reloading after 3 bursts vs gauranteed survival

[swift mango]

Maybe some low clear that never got showed in top 100. Or some lv621 guys using his uninvested Noah for "low clear".

[swift mango]

I trust my Rapu would come home in 2 years.

[timber depot]

finally passed 38-8 and my game crashed, sure hope that still counted lol

it did 🙏

[stuck pike]

there isn't a "top 100" . You use your filter all and tap the power arrow then it'll show the lowest 20 clears. Most of it is being filled up with tMoran as of now outside of the Absolute squad which is still the lowest nowadays either way.

[swift mango]

It's called exaggerate.

[timber depot]

Cannot wait to get MoranT for mobbing, going to be so good

[swift mango]

I don't care about low clear more so which level they clear it tbh. Top Lowest clear of all time at level 601? Oh please. What's good about that? I would steam roll it at that level with much lower deficit. You just lower your CP for show.

[stuck pike]

Unfortunately, there's no sync filter

[swift mango]

Only real good player, are the guys who clear it at 561 or even below.

[stuck pike]

547 is the lowest sync clear in NA atm within the 20 lowest CP clears, it's using Tmoran

[timber depot]

Yeah I always wonder why people clear far lower CP than me, then I see that like 2 of their units that dont do damage are like 30k CP lower than mine each

[swift mango]

I know.

[swift mango]

Oh wait, not actually, I remember I saw the NA or Global guy with 541ish but Vesti.

[swift mango]

1 line tier 1x4 Crown, lowest clear meta.

[stuck pike]

but i also dont fully agree with you anyways, the dude with 547 has a c7 RRH, c7 Mmast, C7 Thelm, C7 TMoran, and C6 Crown. 🐳 📈
lowest sync doesn't account for the fact that he's a giga whel

[swift mango]

That's still better than purposely lower your CP.

[timber depot]

wtf is this stage dude, boss spawns in, I go 100>0 on every single nikke instantly with Crown shield up

Poggers difficulty design

[swift mango]

Probably ball or one shots. Crown doesn't help with those

[stuck pike]

wheels 1 shot at high deficit. use lm stun

crown helps with volleys, but only for 5s during taunt. Either way, he's dying to pinwheel.

stun pinwheel and dps it to death

[swift mango]

You mean the flying slow acting bomb?

[stuck pike]

its a wheel, like it spins.

it fires an aoe that you cant avoid

[swift mango]

And explosion

[timber depot]

lol, it also spawns an add to put up shield as he gets into range

30 enemies on screen, boss kills you 2s after entering, the Nikke way

[swift mango]

Just go RH+Crown+RH/SW and snipe the boss real quick

[timber depot]

I tried Rapi Crown Cindy, didnt oneshot

Just need more CP I guess, only managed to climb 5 stages from last wall, love it

[swift mango]

Ofc not. Cindy hit adds too not just the boss.

[timber depot]

When I enter I hit it with an SW shot from last burst, instantly gens my burst, and then I was going Rapi, not enough DPS to kill it

[swift mango]

You could delay entering boss phase and save a RH>Crown>RH/SW to kill it.

That's what I did anyway

[stuck pike]

stun it with LM. if you cant dps it in time after that, you need more DPS. There's no ifs ands or buts beyond that

[timber depot]

Ill try red hood

I dont know what you mean by stunning with Siren

[stuck pike]

itll buy you some more time to kill it by shooting 50th shot on LM

[swift mango]

Some stage with that flying bomb you could stun it with siren but some you can't. Like shield and tons of mobs. Or 2 bombs instead of 1.

[gaunt pulsar]

you barely need rapi as main or cindy on ch38, it's all done with rapi as b1 and sw as main burst, or lib as main, better nuke potential, at least on normal at similar or lower cp

[timber depot]

RH>Crown>RH worked, thank you legend

just did

Siren > Crown > Rapi
Siren > Crown > HelmT
RH > Crown > RH

[carmine pond]

If I level up SWHA to burst 10, would I slot her into my rookie arena team?

Lib
MAnchor
Jackal
HelmT (P1)
Siren

If not, what other team could I use that utilizes her?

[swift mango]

Yeah, save that trick for whenever you need to clear a strong boss asap. The simplest on the shelf.

[timber depot]

Yeah I used to use RH as one of my main campaign members, shelved her a bit since SWHA was helping more in general, feels good for her to save a stage like that

my queen RH

[stuck pike]

highest atk buff in the game

[timber depot]

Yeah i usually do 3 bursts per stage otherwise id def use her more

[timber depot]

Put her in instead of Siren probably

[stuck pike]

SWHA is definitely serviceable. Even as just a burst battery, she's always a good resource of DPS

[carmine pond]

I just don't know who to comp her with

[swift mango]

Nayuta+Helm+SW+RH+Libby

[stuck pike]

anything at this point to be honest

she's slottable in virtually every rookie team

[carmine pond]

Aw man, I gotta invest in Nayuta. She's still 4/4/4 with tier 8 gear

[stuck pike]

nayuta team has counters, but its a solid team vs most.

[swift mango]

Nayuta is good for pve as well. Otherwise upgrade bLanc. Manchor isn't good in rookie.

Or any arena for that matter

[carmine pond]

That's just the comp I was given it's worked out great so far, but I need something to clear that power difference

[stuck pike]

nayuta can face tank anything that attacks p1, just care with lm stun

[carmine pond]

I thought RRH was bad for pvp

[stuck pike]

he said RH

[swift mango]

Lemme check it again

Nayuta, RH, SW, Libby, Cindy, Siren, Helm, Vesti, Moran.

Did I miss anyone?

[carmine pond]

Oh duh, I'm stupid

[timber depot]

Yeah I'm doing all those, Drake isnt a bad one either just as a battery + cp pad

[swift mango]

Drake is more for CA and SR, same to BSoda

[stuck pike]

In theory if someone stuns Nayuta, RH can b2, although she'll taunt and get the others killed by their RL and since Nayuta didnt burst, you wont actually win unless the enemy team dies fast enough. Stuff like that

[swift mango]

If you wanted to extend to none campaign, we also have Blanc.

[timber depot]

shes a clip sg so especially as a newer player, not bad, shes also one of the first fav items to go for I think since you get gifted 160 mats for her

[swift mango]

LaplaceT

Xmaiden

[timber depot]

my first 3 spa teams were like a scuffed shotgun team, my campaign team and one with like manchor and stuff, probably images of my teams in here lol

#pvp-arena message found em

thats a super early set tho

[swift mango]

Then Ein is also for some campaign and SR ofc

But she isn't meta in either PvE or pvp

[carmine pond]

Ready to go, WML

[swift mango]

Ein is meta is Electric mobbing with Ada though

[timber depot]

Im giving her some investment for same reason im giving Laplace investment

mostly just manu tower

Tetra and Missilis are a nightmare for me

Havent slotted her into any pvp team yet tho

[stuck pike]

Ein is the bis for missilis. tlaplace is the 2nd bis. qeq is third bis. normal laplace is

[timber depot]

my ein is sr5 no ol, my laplce is sr15 2ol atm I think, im using both for CP pad mostly

[stuck pike]

arena wise tlaplace is good as a clip rl with some dps.

[timber depot]

yes im going to replace drake in my 2.5rl team to make it 2rl with laplace

[swift mango]

My LapT and SElegg Main DPS.

[swift mango]

Yeah, Drake is copium when you need her for high CP.

[stuck pike]

you're using selegg for missilis tower?
That sounds rough, but if you're actually pushing 3 floors every day still, nothing stopping you from enjoying selegg's "assets".

[swift mango]

I was using Drake or Midhara but SElegg is actually better than they for mobs.

[carmine pond]

Do I not need Noir with Blanc?

[stuck pike]

she's better than midhara outside bosses, but depends on the stage compared to tdrake

[swift mango]

In arena? No

[stuck pike]

Are you einless though?

[carmine pond]

[carmine pond]

Me?

[swift mango]

I would build her one day. Trust

[stuck pike]

no

[carmine pond]

Wait, RH B1?

Is her B1 any good?

[stuck pike]

i already said she's the highest atk buffer in the game

[carmine pond]

I missed that because I am stupid. Thank you

[stuck pike]

if you attack a lm defense, you may have to change things.

[swift mango]

Arena chat without Rail and Rosy is weird.

Everyone taking a rest now I guess

@hollow lagoon oh you aren't Hime anymore.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/whale-ocean

[tropic summit]

check deficit, try this i guess (assumed laplaceT not linked, rosanna and helmT linked, from memory at least, test it out yourself)

[warm monolith]

No noise

[tropic summit]

moran/siren you know the drill

either stun nayuta or get DR to survive

fix speed accordingly

[warm monolith]

With moran a bit in deficit :(

Gonna use siren

[tropic summit]

you can always fight someone else

[warm monolith]

Wont idk rumani work?

[tropic summit]

she doesn't give you DR or HP+

you can always try and see if you stay alive

[warm monolith]

Wait nvm imma fix my morans cp

[tropic summit]

with moran you still won't be 2RL

fight someone else

[warm monolith]

:(

One sec

Heres the guy below that

[tropic summit]

even worse CP

fight someone else

[warm monolith]

[swift mango]

The first guy was actually beatable

[warm monolith]

Heres the last guy

[swift mango]

This guy not

[tropic summit]

ah great, have fun

@warm monolith ask @swift mango

all yours

[warm monolith]

Thats the guy you tried to beat 2 days ago btw, he changed his teams.

[swift mango]

I don't even know his box so bleb

[tropic summit]

yeah hence the "have fun"

he does have some core units but the CP tetris is strong

@warm monolith show him your updated box

[tropic summit]

this one is probably easier

[warm monolith]

Yeah ik, even i could probbly beat it, thats why im asking you to beat the first guy

[warm monolith]

Here https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMjAwMzQ2ODI4NTA2MTI4NDEzOA%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMjAwMzQ2ODI4NTA2MTI4NDEzOA%3D%3D

[swift mango]

Nayuta+Bay+Helm+RH/Moran+SW against team 1.

Against Vesti go with Blanc+Biscuit+Rapipi indom

Check CP

[shell hazel]

whale done you say? 😄

[swift mango]

Against SW, could go with slow Cindy ofc.

[tropic summit]

you guys playing a whole different game is insane

ppl with 20-40 synchro earlier just unreal

[warm monolith]

T1 nayuta/Bay/thelm/rh/swha ?

[shell hazel]

I was pretty close to 521 then I think it was doable even without any whale cores

[swift mango]

Ya

[shell hazel]

mainly need the cp and ele on rapi

[tropic summit]

521 was NOT doable

[warm monolith]

Oke, no deficit. What about t3?

[shell hazel]

I cleared it on 1.3M cp

[tropic summit]

not for the average lad anyhow

[swift mango]

T3 is high CP. Go with slow Cindy on team 2 instead.

[tropic summit]

maybe for someone like retro it's doable

with all the kind of extra help from any kind of cheese strat

but at that point i question if you're even playing the game anymore

[warm monolith]

Against t2 blanc/biscuit/rapirh/centi/tlap ? No deficit but gotta use vigor on tlap to send the indom to rapirh

One sec ill be back

[swift mango]

Blanc+Cindy+Biscuit+Label+Centi

Noah+Cindy+Biscuit+Label+Drake

Blanc+Cindy+Biscuit+Midhara+Rumani

So long as it's enough CP and slow cindu

Hit team 2 ofc

[swift mango]

Slow Cindy without Cindy.

[cedar sorrel]

Slow centi

[swift mango]

Vesti+Blanc+Ada+crown+Jackal

Should be fine too ofc

[warm monolith]

I gotta go for last option since i have no label

[warm monolith]

This or third?

Both are in no deficit

But ada kinda no invested

[swift mango]

Hit 2nd ofc

[swift mango]

Only need s1 and vigor

[swift mango]

Slow Centi+Cindy is a valid team. It makes enemy super high burst gen so you guarantee to be slower.

[warm monolith]

Okay, to confirm:
T1 nayuta/tBay/thelm/rh/swha
T2 vestitu/blanc/ada(with vigor/crown/jackal

[cedar sorrel]

Running tcenti on purpose or a diff way?

[tropic summit]

it's the same purpose as running cindy in p1

you make the enemy burst faster because of centiT kit

slow cindy wants you to burst as soon as you want, because your team will be protected anyway

this is although strictly an attack strategy

on defense it would actually play against you

[shell hazel]

eh was enough of a challenge I think, run it a bunch of times before I got, waiting would have worked better but where is the fun in that?

[cedar sorrel]

Ah I see. Still seems niche to get tcenti for tho right cuz as a whole she gets bricked?

[warm monolith]

@swift mango Im running this

[tropic summit]

no you're right

it just makes it feel very stupid

[shell hazel]

eventually you'll outlevel basically everything anyway

[tropic summit]

the struggles of the average joe are trivialized by p2p, a daily reminder in this game

and the very thing i dislike the most in all of these kind of games

wish we could return to the era of games made for players, but we've gone long into the games made for profit

[shell hazel]

day 1 f2p would have enough sync and invest time to clear all by now as well tbh

new f2p struggle for a while

[warm monolith]

HOW THE HECK ADA DEALS THAT MUCH DMG I FEEL STUPID NOT INVESTING ON HER

[tropic summit]

f2p can still get stuck at 160 wall

[warm monolith]

Also @swift mango thanks, teams worked

[tropic summit]

just less difficult via access to the liter/helmt/alice starting kit

[warm monolith]

In t2 vestitu died but somehow ada one shotted every enemy, i was not familiar with her kit.

[shell hazel]

they at least made that a bit easier, but actually I don't think the wall serves any purpose in todays model of the game

just get rid of it and let people synchro machine after 200 or so

[tropic summit]

it does serve a purpose, it's to motivate spending to get past the wall

the entire game is designed still with systems to motivate and bait players into dropping cash in the game

the reason the wall still exists is because the people is perfectly fine with it

they've grown numb and used to these systems, like it's perfectly normal

get scammed long enough that you no longer realize you're getting still scammed

[shell hazel]

we're customers not players ultimately, prob how all the gacha devs look at things

[tropic summit]

amazing really, always reminded how amazing of a brainwash they managed to pull off so far

[tropic summit]

absolutely right

each new update is actually a planned out cycle of content x effort

[shell hazel]

and I suspect some of that is lazier than it could be due to their new game and SU moving staff over to that

[tropic summit]

and ofc at the end of the sum there's: how much profit will this bring? the units and content attractive enough?

[tropic summit]

definitely, their "surfance content" proved how lazy and comfortable they got

going as far as using chibi recycled content and slap a "new content" on it

that was the lowest move so far from SU

i really reeeeeeeeally hope we get the new titles soon enough to slap their faces a bit

[gritty ridge]

Is it bad I don't want surface back

[tropic summit]

no it's how anyone should think

[gritty ridge]

It was so tedious

[tropic summit]

it's literally telling your playerbase how lazy and comfortable you got, so much to release an half assed "new mode" that is even less fun and worse than your average limited event minigame

i can probably find at least 5-10 minigames that are more fun than whatever that garbo they tried to shove down our throat was

[gritty ridge]

I want a suddoko minigame

Cuz i like sudoku

[tropic summit]

i'm still recovering from this

[shell hazel]

I hate the current mini game tbh

can't stand it. get in get my gems run away lol

[gritty ridge]

I like the normal mode, i like the hardmode. I dont like the modifiers

[tropic summit]

reminds me of OSU

there used to be a time i was mad enough to actually play those rhytm games

[lone sequoia]

as a ex-osu player is say f-ck this mini-game

[shell hazel]

I don't mind simple mini games but yeah this one a swing and a miss for me

[swift mango]

I just get my 30 gem andnpass

[swift mango]

So long as it working. but yeah, she one shot everyone with enough buff.

[lone sequoia]

they have to bring back the board game

[swift mango]

ca

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MviZdVPXdMg&list=RDMviZdVPXdMg&start_radio=1

https://klipy.com/gifs/shikanoko-nokonoko-koshitantan-torako-koshi

https://klipy.com/gifs/koshi-torako-shikanoko-9

@shell hazel

[upper grove]

Exquisite taste sir. The first was the best

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nichijou-yukko

[hollow lagoon]

[strong hull]

[shell hazel]

damn stronger enemies are not allowed 🙁

https://tenor.com/view/paripi-koumei-ya-boy-kongming-eiko-gif-25607562

[gritty ridge]

Just you wait til I get into your spa

[shell hazel]

cross region bigboi?

[gritty ridge]

Yes

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-sad-gif-10692536301102666475

[cedar sorrel]

Helmt waiting room

[shell hazel]

Rail I'm here and I want to die

I made it to the boss lost 1 nikke along the way, couldn't kill it as it's the insta-kill boss 😄

[maiden lodge]

I got Moran treasured (not fully maxed for a few more days), where should I slot her in?

[humble tiger]

Sniffing glue is a hell of a drug. Better than Mist.

[lunar pawn]

29% deficit

[glad meteor]

Noah took too much dmg

Couldnt heal back up over 50%

With bisc s2

[oblique gyro]

@shell hazel

hello mate

i am progressing chapter 37 hc at 488 sync going straight to 40% deficit again

[shell hazel]

evening ysteri, I am progressing chap 39 atm 🙂

this stage was hell

[humble tiger]

[shell hazel]

37 means you killed snake? I can't remember what sync I was for that, gluttony will need enough cp/dmg though I think

[oblique gyro]

niiice, how much sync ?

[oblique gyro]

yep i killed snake

maybe we could add each other ingame ? so i can better track your progression ?

[shell hazel]

I am almost 519 sync now

[shell hazel]

yes I can make a spot np

[oblique gyro]

ok

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-done-it-before-and-i-can-do-it-again-annie-murphy-alexis-alexis-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20805292

[oblique gyro]

11838082 you can add me

[shell hazel]

I've added 🙂

[oblique gyro]

thank you !

[shell hazel]

I'm pushing some chapters before I do my wipeouts here, I can get 519 today I think, soon 521!

how is your SR going ysteri?

mine is here #pvp-arena message

@tropic summit 39-29 done in another way. Btw I was trying out anchor and it actually almost worked but the boss version one taps even full hp with anchor buff lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppAmfFSKTHg

[oblique gyro]

i'll do mine tomorrow

[oblique gyro]

there is a similar one at 37.10 that i just passed, i did the same thing

[shell hazel]

the worst one was 38-32

oh you're not there yet 😄

this is a repeat of 37-15? I think

you can skip the 37 one temp (I need to go back for it) but 38-32 is in your path and must be cleared. Take this when you get there and pray for some rng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5HGAPX0FqM

[oblique gyro]

thank you !

[shell hazel]

if you see a stage like this in 37 run a mile lol, at least don't focus on it too hard for now, it's pain

moran helps a ton though in various volleyball stages but it's not instant win for any of them

[gritty ridge]

And yet you dont for me

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-gif-26388509

[swift mango]

@hollow lagoon

https://www.amazon.com/100-Pure-Blue-Spirulina-Powder/dp/B08233QMH4

Have you made your food blue yet?

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

not you, I meant @gritty ridge

[glad meteor]

Booli bigboi

I was going to do quick sr run today

[shell hazel]

when bro is 🐳 but forgets to buy sync

[glad meteor]

Sw team took half an hour

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dorothy-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-awooga-gif-16339694745060269005

[glad meteor]

Who needs sync. Just want prism frame

[shell hazel]

I still have only 2 core maxes

no sorry 1 lol

it's helmT my only core max

will I hold below 1%? would be my first one this level

[glad meteor]

Same

[glad meteor]