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Poli tank everything I guess but label could only tank non RL and normal attack.
ah mb i thought she stun the enemy hahah
It doesn't break after she burst so she could tank all normal attack that's not pierce or RL
I'm interested in 70% gen too
her kit kinda weird tho
she convert her shield to invi, but she doesn't want to get hit

Guess as long you don't put her in p1..?
Idk if that makes her gen equal to Clip SG or Just Mag RL...
If it doesn’t break sure, so you either have to make sure she has a lot of HP so the shield can scale properly, and make sure you burst first with the shield actuve
same gen as mana?
Otherwise you’ll have a broken shield and the “invulnerability shield” becomes null
On the other hand, hard single target
Well, she probably can use p3-4 in a CA team to stop SG from both sides on their track, just like poli
Probably Mana levels of burst gen
Cube max hp probably best for label
Oh wait
That's just Mag RL. So kinda meh
but what used for her invi after? maybe a team where ur teammate dies and her invi makes the opponent die? maybe miharara + her or smth
The S1 shattered delusion is continuous and doesn’t reduce a stack
You can effectively stunlock her if you successfully break her shield, but the effect of being stunned is removed with splash damage.
lowkey hope she's bad so i don't need to pull
I'm sure her kit is only meant for Helm and Snow white to avoid being one shoted by Rossana
She’s a solid Nuke team counter but fails against Stall teams
I'm not sure.. Rosanna can delete buff you know?
Well Rossana and 2rl Scarlet ...
So that nullifies label reduced damage taken buff as well
It's sad.
So rosie scarlet can still kill your crucial unit
SU make my ros sac useless
However, if you play 3 attacker, that backup attacker will survive
It's sad that they just make hard counter instead of new mechanic. 
Oh wait, she won't counter Rosa. Rosa would dispel 2 highest atk anyway. Then one shot them.

she can still be use as buffer
Buff who?
It would dispel 5 buffs from the two highest attackers, yeah.
It can be self buffs or gained ones that aren’t dispellable
she's b1 buffer for anyone with her burst -> skill 2
All buff that doesn't write "can't be dispelled" can be dispell
Her skill 2 required her shield to be shattered. Then not getting hit by RL. So obviously forced to be p5 to be hit by SG. But then she won't be able to stop SG until they kill everyone else. 
I could see her be used in Moran team
shared not shattered
shared from burst shattered from shield broken
I see mb
shattered says activate up to 2 times?
so shield break -> 1 sec stun -> normal atk shield up -> shield broken -> 2 sec stun then no more self stun?
her burst + skill 2 atk buff don't even need her shield up I think
what are these numbers
her gen being more than RH is pretty nice too
im not pulling
ill just not use cindy team and keep my scarlet team
replace cindy team with vesti or something
not enough resources to build
Yeah, she is basically P1-5 units I guess.
But it's max 2 stack doesn't mean she can't be shattered for the 3rd time
if shield don't broke at worst time to use her B1 like can be early or late then she can pretty much be a good pvp B1 atk buffer
Her skill 1 recover her shield as she burst so she will always has her shield when she burst.
if she continue the cycle it would be really funny to see her fighting scar / nero 
She can still be self stunned afterwards if the shield breaks again as it is a continuous stack
stacks up seems different wording with activate up to
so theres a chance she perma stun herself 
Mast: Romantic Maid can stack up to three times where on the third one after FBT ends she’ll self stun and reduce one stack of drunken.
With Label there’s no way for her to reduce stacks unless you have a unit that reduces stacks
Though that’s not the idea on what to do.
oh but the stun is tied to when delusion effect end yeah can perma stun 2 sec
Against single target teams she would be funny
Hit her then she stunned then hit the next units, then she recover from stun, then hit her again and repeat. 
Yeah, so for the funniest if you decide to run any of the S1 EVA units against a Label
Does RL splash gets her out of her thing?
Yeah
wait meme build in pve?
perma stun mmast build
wow useless unit, perma stun herself 
S1 Eva is Fire. S2 is Wind.
No like I specified S1 because S2 do not have shield breakers
All S1 EVA units have shield breaker on their kit
Element doesn’t matter
Well, they won't be used anyway. Only 1 units from s2 is meta relevant
But that’s not the point I’m making
for the funnies against a Label, just run any S1 EVA unit to rapidly break her shield
So let's say enemies destroy her shield, and they started attacking P2, when splash attack disrupts her thing, enemies will still keep attacking B2 until it dies right?
Idk what happens afterwards if they stay on the same target or swap to their closest upon reload, so probs the former
If it's after reload then we can basically say they keep killing B2, burst timers are usually rl2 anyway
Label probs can work in a Stall team, but that’s kinda gimmicky
But she works in short -6s battles and most likely not beyond that
The thing is I am not even sure if her shields would stay alive even for 2rl considering it goes away, splash damage from rl interrupts and you create shield again, probably goes away as well before burst
Kinda sounds like she will be better on p3-5
She effectively gets a shield in almost every part of the fight (initial shield, upon shooting without a shield and upon using her burst ability)
Jackal link can definitely help her a lot
She getting stun may delay your burst gen, and burst sequence if she is the only b1
That is also true, so do have a second one there like Jackal 
If she doesn't burst she doesn't buff
Oh mb I missed burst
Then she is pretty good for B1 actually 
Except against Vesti I guess
Or maybe just P4 on jackal team as anti Scarlet/Cindy?
She is an okay replacement for Rapu in Nero team now I guess. They won't be wiped by Scarlet/Cindy 2rl no more.
The Meta already moved away from Nero team though with all the new b3 beating them easily. 
Maybe she could actually replace Nero even, making my Nero investment useless. 
I just maxed her doll last CA and used her once.
Still Rapu bricked so that was not a wise investment
Can her? Kinda sounds like you can't rely on her bursting
Nero in non Rapu team.
When would it be Label banner anyway?
Looks like I won't have RSS to build her if it was before next ca
Good luck guys
With 30k gems I am not sure if I should try getting her or not 
I have even less than 30k
She is auto win against scarlet and Rossana if you built your team to avoid dispell on your attacker.
Rosanna?
Rossana dispell 2 highest ATk but nuke 2 attackers.
You could have your attacker not dispelled and still getting nuke
How does she prevent them from getting dispelled?
tmr
Get your Noise higher atk than your Emi for example. Exactly what that guy AHA in my bracket do with his Noise linked team. 
Oh that's a bit too 🐳 for me 
Worse, I spent more than 100+ rock for my Emi ATK line, now I have to trash it and rebuild if I wanted to use.
I wouldn't do this even if it means becoming diamond 30 
Yeah, guess I would be Label bricked as well
What is an invulnerable shield? It probably wouldn't protect against, say, Mihara. Does it even block splash damage?
Block sg
It does?
iirc shields add an extra target to splash damage, so poli at p1 actually helps the opponent RL gain extra burst gen
Also vesti does true damage to the character. I wonder if the shield can block that either
Isnt indom basically means her shield will get 0 damage, so her will get 0 damage as well unless pierce?
The shield gets no damage, but the character would. I doubt it blocks things like Mihara's sustain dmg
Idk about this 
I forgot harran is electric as well, Damn
I just finished building her to cook for ca but SU made her counter before even i try it
seems like 2 and 2.5rl electro units fu
5 sec of 70% reduced dmg from electro units from the start of the battle
Sounds like a good alternative for spa as well if you don't have Noah
slow cindy team type of unit imo
even has build in ability to make enemy faster with her shield
so new unit good for pvp? can someone tldr?
Trash
Is it ogre for Scarlet?
Why
She is hard counter to scarlet and rosa. So spA relevant as well.
Im not convinced, i bet what will realy happen is she just makes enemy faster then her entire team gets killed leaving her last person alive 1v5

Skip
You don't have to put her p1
She is hard counter scarlet. It's easy win against scarlet if you put her into the team.
Then add 4 randoms
Even cindy
It's only 5 seconds. So slow Cindy doesn't affect
Scarlet always go 2rl so she is screwed
Does she counter moran? I feel like moran will have a harder time surviving against her
No
She only counter 2rl scarlet/Cindy, and Rossana in specific setting.
A support with 50% atk?
Label seems like bad at surviving herself, yes she has target switch and self stun when shield is broken but unless she is bisc protected she doesn't seem to have alot of survivability to stand
wonder if running vesti as sub would be enough to deal with her
30-40% enough, attacker just need 0-10%
noah

Sakura pouting in a corner
Anti Scarlet fast 2rl and Anti Rossana Sac
i just spent all my gems on standard banner 
Not really unless the attack target doesn't get dispelled
That will be a hard choice
I bet ppl did 40% atk SW and other water atker already
Roll them off
My SW only 1atk line
don't rossana just hit p1?
Same
NANI
Learn the distinction
Even miranda can steal jackal link from SW
Check pin of Merry to learn what would she hit if there isn't 2 attacker.
Rosa hits 2 attackers, then if no attacker p1 and p2
if 1 attacker then the attacker and p1
highest attack yea I read
Not really, if less or more than 2, it's depend on her position. Check Merry post on pin.
i can see how SU is consistently trying to remove scarlet from top tier in pvp
we been eating good b3 dps lately + now with label to defense against scar
1 question tho would you build Label?
remove? they added trina specifically to keep her relevant
Max her skill 2. And done
scarlet is donezo now though
Remove her from SpA at least.
7107 for max investment?
that's the problem man resource so small
CA it's auto lose if you met her but oh well.
@north brook yea im going to have to build new pvp characters..
does 2RL scarlet burst in the first 5 seconds of battle?
I was right, idk why you say i'm not right, i researched myself. It's just there are more scenarios than i described
Max is always 101010 but 7 107 because lacking books
but anyway thx for the info
at 2.5rl your b3 happens at ~4.6s, some cindy hits probably would hit even at 2.5 because her burst is stretched, ideally need to be ~2.7+
Next skill reset I won't lack skill book no more. 
Still lacking now.
Because I missed last skill reset timing

ya tbh label seems mainly op for sp, in ca theres no guarantee shes fighting scar or cindy
also slow cindy her buff is gone in 5 seconds for whole team
Slow Cindy laugh at her though
She could be built to counter Rossana and Scarlet so 2/5 counter.
kinda pointless if ur carry ded
On top of whichever your team already counter
probably label will make meta ban elec, if shes decent kit wise without the hard counter effect
attackers ded all thats left is scrap
Rosanna erase dmg reduc buff. So it doesnt that matter.
Noise could have more ATK than SW/Emi/HelmT Rossana won't kill them.

dude how many rocks
to out dps attacker
yeah rich boi
30% ATK noise and 0% ATK SW is enough. 
true if you don't pve Snow does Nuts damage
yea doable she overflows dps anyway
SW doesn't need ATK in PVE, she need ELE. 
Her self buff and other units buffs already enouhh
He may not need pve because team cp is already high enough...
Actually get her crit dmg to use with miranda
not if your competitive really

You aren't competitive in PvE. Anyone who aren't top 200 solo raid doesn't count.

cause I decided not to create characters way too niche anymore too poor for materials
4 Ele on every DPS and 3% is ready. You don't need ATK.
tho it would fall beneath top 200 for sure
Mihara on otherhand
Scales more on ATK than Element
Characters that does Sustain damage scales more from ATK
trying to grab pve pvp all looks greedy. Is ur wallet okay?
how? She still scale Ele. 
Sustain dmg doesn't use Ele?
But who the heck need Midhara to be alive in arena anyway. 
More damage = faster kill when shes ded bruh
I understand investing atk let users use in non-ele situation and it is top 200 mind.
Snow HA is too good in Neutral raid even not in WATER so atk is really good for her
Her Death dot doesn't count OL. 
Me like normal user gonna have 4ele and out
You sure?
Get her crit dmg to use with Miranda instead
that's a problem
3rd line FREE
Yes. It's basic knowledge if you played enough arena.
Crit rate or ammo isn't bad.
And build Emi low ATK is fine too
Doesn't need to be SW
Well, build units with goal in mind. If you can't build then just wait or ignore the goal.

Yea I wait 2 months to build a character
that's why it gets harder and harder for me to experiment with characters like Label
Niche purpose fun but 1 problem is my poor resource
f2p life is hard
is label a pvp char or nah
pvp
ar tho
She is gonna be Arena meta, not niche

She as niche as Miranda or Tove in SR I guess
Anyway, you should focus on SR to hold top 200 I guess. Can't be well invested in both without being a whale.
I wasn't that interested in Label, but dat booty 
Although I have no gems or tickets to pull anything right now so 
Well, I'm bricked anyway.
Bricked up 
Wait, until the end of her banner. So you be sure if people won't just not use scarlet anymore in CA and SpA, making her not very good anymore.
You don't really need her in Spa anyway. CP is king there
And scarlet already easy to beat
I was considering not running scarlet anyway even before the kit tbh
People still run wind on defence like lib even though we have og sakura
So label will be arena only nikke?
I do both top 200 SR is whaley I just do crazy tech's to catch up to top rankers that rank won't hold until tommorow top 1% or somethin

Can't imagine her in PvE
Because Sakura has no benefits outside of wind counter. While Label can buff and tank.
if she's decent I'm also considering just throwing SR-0 on her, I don't have doll mats to upgrade R-15 esp with treasures coming
What treasures
gotta be announced soon
Crow SuiSIDE Treasure coming TRUST
the pvp fav item box in store expires in days not weeks
think as a b1 she'd be fine on SR-0 anyway
1 problem no announcement of treasures in patch
concerning
no but they can't be miles behind
Yeah, that's why invest more so you could top 200
Isn't label kinda broken for 1v1 too?
yea only for META tho
even if they're not I have multiple other units in front of her for doll investments that I'd probably need to do first
too poor to invest in everything
That's why invest in everything PvE. You aren't getting out of league anyway and your CP is high enough to hold spA already. 
I am still lacking so much other stuff that Label, unless she turns out to have some super meta thing that won't be apparent until after she is actually in the game and tested, I won't be able to build her up in months anyway, so might just wishlist and get her down the line somewhere
Dude League is harder than top 16 or top 8
Imagine Meeting Finals guy in league
then top 4 etc etc
She has high ATK buff. And tanky aside from Elec counter. That's it
Final guys getting stomp in league all the time in your bracket. In the 6 season I was there 4 season champion got stomped in their next league. 
Rock paper scissors of 5
also FAH or somethin his name losing in league was quite unexpected for me
cause his team literally 1 or 2 shot my pve friend in Union
like ALL Max core characters + really high investment not counting research levels
Anyone can lose in league with enough bad luck. But losing all the time isn't about luck but investment
True
on my case I always try animal comps
unproven if good or not
How's Label for pvp chat
not bad for scarlet
slow cindy bad fast cindy good
but Rossana will still take away buff from 2 higest atk n Sacc them Label can't help with that
I know no one uses SAnis anymore but she might counter SAnis too
Just give them more buffs and gamble
she takes 5 buffs on highest atk on lvl 10
Wait no
She can redirect rosanna
She has the highest atk
She will get dispelled
Gets stunned for 1 sec recovers shield and blocks it
Bruh
Uhhhhh XD
How fast is her Rosannas first 10 hits anw
Just +1 sec from there
Before 1st burst
Very useful
How do we know when is first burst and at what speed is that
1st burst is 2RL
there are variations but 3 seconds I think
Hmmm
So can Label catch it?
Can Rosanna dispel + Label 1 sec stun + her first BA be faster than B1?
if you put label where her shield gets hit
it makes 2rl opponent into 1RL
like Cindy shield
you die before anything happens
Ofc u dont put Label in P1
Risky stuff
U dont need Label burst bru
oh what comp are you suggesting?
in particular
My new comp I always tested at least once. Also You can determine at a glance if comp working or not. Meta or not is a thing but working or not is another.
Her skill 2 make her very good to bait Rossana and steal link. Whale with max core her but not max core other DPS would be in advantage
@hollow lagoon @umbral belfry Time you use you F2Pbtw power and max core label and give her 40% atk OL.
That's a big advantage in CA.
Bruh
She is a good units to max core for small time whale that only MLB units
Whale that max core all units anyway doesn't need to care about that.
Damn, it looks like Label makes Scarlet irrelevant in SP, it happen when I finally had a good teams to win defenses 
It's not that much Cindy p1 can make 1rl because she *1.75 the burst gen of common RL. But you had to be over committed to 1 team for that anyway.
Normally in CA even Cindy p1 won't make 1rl teams out of enemies
wtf is this skill set lol
Looks like strongest b1 ever

Atk OL don’t improve caster atk buff
But she bait rosa
If she had high atk
She self buffs 90%
The more the better
My scarlet don’t even have 4 atk rolls
Anyways this is the strongest b1 unit
80% cast atk
All u need is slot another cdr

90%+ but she is defender so like 45%
Defenders 60% of attackers most b1 are supporters
Which is like 80%
Still makes her a 48% for 10 seconds but really more like 60-65% cuz most caster attack buffers are supporters
Liter in shambles
On top of burst gen

Oh god
The problem is how do u even strip her shield
U break it she just spawn another one while normal attacking

She does get stunned when ever breaks
So it’s a 2 sec damage window to get damage in

How did you come to this conclusion 
11233 config
For example with siren who dosnt buff team much with her burst
U run label on burst and siren cdr
Team gets labels’s huge caster attack buff
End of story
Another good cdr is soline
midhara DoT application iirc is random, she may have tried to apply it multiple times to cindy for example, which would leave biscuit DoT-less

I notice Cindy don’t care about blacksmith stun because of decoy
I think Cindy don’t care about targeting debuffs in general
even for normal people, resetting cindy is beyond reasonable


Like what u lack skill mats so much u brick another major dps to shove into swha?
Your disabled hand?
i feel my fingers again nearly entirely 
but the pain is still not stonks
i actually worked in the office 4 hours today and slept a solid 5 hours tonight, big progress 
Also tis was red name and a blue that reseted Cindy so they couldn’t have only played the game for a tiny bit
that's even more concerning 
Rail r u pulling label 
2 mfkers a blue and red told me they reset her

But wait
Resetting only happens during anni
after you 
test her first then if she gud i will 
i think i'd say a unit has fallen off when she's replaced from SR/UR teams, i don't think cindy is even close to that 
Sr maybe but not UR
Oh yeah, the description that's so arbitrary, probably even they don't know how it works really 
She’s ur color palette idk how u can reject her she’s your people
unhealthy looking neet bookworm/gamergrill 
Time to
in the shower then
And she looks like she doesn't shower for months on end
And lives in a pigsty
I can almost smell the stench through my screen
imagine the smell
I would take her, i like these type of grills 
but maybe you can fix her
- make her shower
- make her sleep
- give her some physical activity to get in shape
- remove glasses for contact lenses
fixed?
I’ll take her she’s inverted version of me wil will be fun
The glasses stay ON 
it didn't come out as too good that i typed my message under your post 
indeed unlucky timing 
i try to imagine the inverted version of her, so you are super tidy and super extroverted
Nah inverted is not reversed, I’m super introverted and a degenerate but not because I’m useless and lack confidence
But because
zant is the type of guy that at a party he's sitting on the sofa with the family dog/cat petting and playing with it
meanwhile i'm the type of guy that would come up with an excuse to go home and watch anime instead 
not the answer i was looking for
lol
Think of me playing her same game but on a different axis
trying to 
I’m a shut in (in my house not my room)
Hates common humanity (not cuz of low confidence but cuz huge ego)
Is degenerate (but look for hot girls instead of hot guys)
Pretty sure they are inverted already
Wait what
What anime?
Overflow?

well, then you are like my weirdo friend, but a friendlier and more socially adept version lol
redo of healer
- why do you know overflow
- that's not an anime

- did you know that one of the 2 sisters' seiyuu is the same as Ilya in Fate/SN, and i don't know this because i watched it clearly


Pull time?
meh need to see burst gen
Absolutely broken
it's not like there isn't already 2 available counters for cindy and scarlet
She even has that
Counter to everything


should be same as mana
hmm so around this much uh
she's gonna be a bit annoying to slot in 
i guess scarlet and cindy 2RL will stonks in reverse
most cases, rosanna will dispels
Can’t rosa just dispel the buff though
i don't think you'll see rosanna out of meta anytime soon, her kit is actually insane for a day 1 unit
Imagine how it was when there was no defender dps and noah has half gen

Either have rapu or bust
Even then. Would outspeed or maybe kill noah without biscuit
why are they so low there?
in nikkedeck and top they all 11.7 11.7 11.08 not 9.45 9.45 8.946 
She's banner
on spreadsheets, ar, smg and mg burst gen is when rl launch, not on impact
right @bleak shale ?
ah, then it matches
ic, not sure what the benefit of calc it at when 2rl shoot though

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I did almost 1b worse than mock but should be enough for 10%. F this boss. 
Cindy team was a mistake. Too hard to control.
Should just go with Rapipi team
I was summoned

Shoulda been a hermit but instead I got into gatcha
So it is

I’m I good nuff for SEA 3%
Using scarlet, died at 49 second left but better than S.Anis. My S.Anis suck
Sorry got wrong pin.
Idk, 20b should be more than enough I guess
makes sense 
4);you ruined her. 
How tf can you even skill reset right now?
1st in SEA still use Cindy this Solo raid and 31.4b
Which is why I’m saying something something lib Nayuta made these mfkers decided Cindy is out of meta 
I mean, only dumbass or very new F2P would even reset Cindy.

U can’t be new f2p to have invested in Cindy enough to want to reset her
You can. 2 months in you can 101010 cindy
But she is your only DpS and then you got Rapipi
So you reset her
Shit bruh 2 month in I was working with 7/7/7 carries
But no the smart decision for 2 month in now is to helmT so they can start doing coop without people kicking them
That's because you didn't focus 1 team. 2-3 months on you could have full Campaign team with level 10 on all key skill. F2p
Or just abondon run
:

My sync 305 union bro pulled 11b this raid
I could too if I spend more time to mald. 

But he ain’t gotz sdoro or xlude
never and I'm f2p
Hime gave me rock but it didn’t roll any good lines
Fake rocks

-btw
1 ele too much to ask for out of 10 rocks?
Better than me had to go with slot 1 Ele.
30 for 1 Ele slot 1 here
Me here with 0 ele
Atleast u got 1

I did like 30 1 rocks roll for 1 single Ele slot 1. My SW has 3 Ele.
All slot 1

I did like 15 for a line 2 def roll

Cuz u know hit rate or chargespeed
Then def….
Ok it… does something
Now I have to lock slot 1 to fish slot 3 for SW because my luck suck.
I do it all the time

Anyway
Union raid water looks like sdoro is out
Nope
That leave you with no buff SW and it's bad

It was pretty good dor me last raid
Idk how "huge" it is, considering it's a defender's atk, unsure if it will justify replacing another offburst or support just for her
Rough equivalent of 50% attack’s caster attack buff a bit less than X Brid’a level of buffing
Defending on if you have her max core or not. If you had her max core her AtK buff shot be around liter for attacker.
What I'm more interested on is her s1
How much ele on sw and sdoro
For 1v1 she can repeatedly apply 30% shield as soon as she gets hit

Nah she stun herself
Oh wait you mean 1vs1 unit
Yea
She stuns her self when shield bricks
First stun 1 second subsequent 2 sec
No one 1vs1 in arena anyway
Anti Moran ? But that fight will last a million years
5min*
In my head would be 5 cycles of this reality 
She does have 90% self attacknup prob could break Moran
defender wins if timer runs out 
She also take no damage from Moran if she bursts which nullify Morgan’s leech?
Moran counter rosana counter and scarlet counter
Water supremacy
Well looks like detrimental element gonna be fire/wind
Doesnt 70% eletric dmg down means Cindy is useless now 
Does Cinderella nuke land within 5s, I don’t think so 
Only first 5 sec
I think 2RL is within 5s no?
yes
It’s like 4.x for B3 cast but Cinderella has delay
Slow Cindy good fast Cindy bad
Label kinda broken
And scar is deadage
I guess my variable scar burst build will be the thing going forward 
Or scar has to be ran with rosana so hopefully yeet enemy buff and kill 2 ish unit (one is prob label)
80% defender atk buff as well wtf
Basically no way around this unit scarlet wise
Thats like 50% atker buff
Yep
What’s AR burst gen
It’s prob raid viable if u slap another cdr
Just replace with mana for sake of calculation
She is even good as p3/4 unit if you want to move Jackal to p5 
0.45 * 1.7 * 20 =15.3
Her having shield and speeding enemy scar up is even more funny
Shield sounds tanky too. Idk how the stun works too
Stun for 1s if can’t burst in time
Don’t need to burst in time
If your shield die before you can burst 
It's to promote new SW in pvp
P1 Tank ig
I mean against SG Ros
That’s the only comp that can realistically break her shield before she burst
Well maybe Vesti can also break the shield
My guess is Label to counter Absolute tean
How does she integrate into CA
Cause she won't be blocked by label
Pierce units 
Replace Blanc in slow Cinderella 
Thing is she don’t need to burst
She’s b1 tho?
Can just burst Biscuit B2 anyway
Or Nayuta b2
Yeh but you will live anyway if you are Blanc or her
Someone will change rumani into label for sure
With 3x 2RL team in SPA, meta will move towards gimmick B1 and B2 like Label 
I mean if they are Lib you lose regardless Blanc or Label
But this let you move Blanc elsewhere
anti fast* cindy. slow cindy stocks rises again
We got back to back pvp units 
What of the case of label slow Cindy vs vesti
it should be same as before
pray vesti doesn't kill your b1 so you can burst 
actually I guess maybe a bit worse
Now Lib stocks going up cause Wind wins Iron i think
cuz if Biscuit die then you have no B2
but it also depends on the variation. no mihara vs a vesti bay? you lose
Unless u run Nayuta version with label
just burst Label and invin 10s
and hope they die to burn 
I don't think you have space for Nayuta
unless you kick Mihara
burst gen too slow
Slow Label? 
The next treasure could be OG sakura to nerf libby
actually
Possible maybe
as long as Cinderella survive to cast B3 you should have enough damage
if she don't survive to cast B3 Idk if Mihara DoT alone is enough
but at least your Label is 10s invin with 90% self Atk buff
maybe she can clean up 
plus she is 20s burst cd so she maybe even survive until 2nd rotation if they still not dead to DoT

Or no Mihara, Nayuta damage buff
label is bait for me bc I can sense velvet around the corner for maids 
I feel like Nayuta will die before she can do a lot of dmg tbh
4RL Cindy burst at like 7s? So she get 1 charge shot before she die
then you lose vs vesti 

if the vesti is noise bay jack vesti they do not care about that
only way you're breaking bay and killing that team is mihara followed by cindy
it's okay, your 4RL Label team lose so that your 2RL Blanc team can win 
it's the trade


Them PvP teams get nastier
Scar win rate tank rock bottom
Back to SG Rosa
What can scar team even beat now days? Slow Cindy is cringy now, so just SG
Frees up Trina for Moran

depends on who the 2nd b1 is

scar rapu helped me beat a vesti team
, soda stuns, etc etc
At what time does scarlet nuke in 2RL?
dunno the exact number but 2rl she's gg bc label if that's what you're wondering
Like @placid bloom says 4.x ish
Moran Noah Helm SW
Indom Vesti Jackal
Some Label Bay team maybe
CA would be interesting
Yea just wondering at what RL speed will the nuke do its job
nothing scar can do without sacrificing your speed so it's 
- the queen @ scarlet in goddess fall
my 4 atk 0 ammo cannot Solo Raid 
you basically have to be 3RL to pass Scar nuke 

Label is gonna be meta af. Her invuln/tank potential unfortunately gets broken due to her self stun but being a passive buffer and passive anti-Scarlet/Cindy/Rosanna/etc is huge. Burst gen won't be too bad either. You can stick her in P4 or P5 with Biscuit and she'll do the team a solid.
Stick her in p1 to speed enemy up
slow cindy continues to be on top
bc she doesn't care about label

fast cindy though? yeah gl 
who is still running fast Cinderella 
Time to downgrade Cindy in Prydwen pvp 
I saw a few in our bracket 
I was planning to run fast Cindy to replace Scarlet next CA
I don't think she's anti-Ros, you can dispel the elec dmg reduc on the 2 highest Atk
Maybe not anymore lol
@umbral belfry @placid bloom I forgot label buff damage too,
the kind of buff Mihara likes too
oops
unless you miss 
Doesnt she need to burst
She's a defender though, so probably not?
She does but it’s not hard for her to live to burst
just always dodge label with your scar teams if you use for ca 
it should be individual buff no?
cuz it's "Affect all allies" like Crown shield
not "Affect self" the way single shielders like Poli work
I dont think Mihara’s ticks are affected by Label’s buff. Too late
She could still bait Ros if u roll her Attack lines since she self butt 90%
Sad, but atleast Cindy gets damage
I guess if you make her fat Atk but then her shield get dispelled and she self stun 1s 
just gonna get her mlb, look at tests, then wait for velvet for maids. you won't bait me fellow go o onette 
Idk if that's better than letting your attacker get dispelled
she gets back after 1 sec so she needs to die in that 1 sec
or 2 sec
her burst gen might be crap if p1
nvm
Caster's HP and ATK means need dupes 
it's a lot less 
No gems for dupes. One copy and done 
I think it's fine
Now all pvp B1 and B2 and must haves
Sounds like we are pulling for Label
Helps alot in pvp, given newb brackets are running cindy and scar
people in this channel are def pulling label
nah I am just theorycraft, retired player like me don't pull 
Do u still play, or once in a while nowdays
I am retired from PvP 
pve main? 
PvE main 
Noicee
I can't be bothered to camp PvP, I just sit and collect gem

where did you rank this SPA season kuwon?
ah good enough still 
and I don't attack anyone
I mean I got gem to 5th last season
and then that guy didn't make it out of groups
so I guess he learned his lesson 
and stopped
My bracket will wake up once in a while
I hope I get isekai-ed to another chill bracket 
still a few people in my bracket who scrap for top 4 for CA but yeah hard to win lol
only one of them managed it so far and I think it was due to luck
@placid bloom vesti explosion still go thru label shield i assume?
more like he just wanted to join once.
Shield cannot block launcher.
wym
so label version is worse against vesti comp
ofc what shield can block it?
some times i randomly win vesti comps tho on slow cindy
if you have Blanc Cinderella Rumani then only 2 of them can get Biscuit invin
Can cindy comp break shield?
and it's usually Blanc Rumani
so Cinderella have to live with her own HP
if she live to burst then you have enough damage to win
ursaying the times i won cindy hp hard carried cuz my cindy is stacked af
if not then you have to pray DoT is enough
I wonder how mihara chain works on shield.
doesnt affect i think. Only nikke's HP
If DoT cannot bypass shield, no hope to candy
Is label mandatory for pvp ?
because you didn't dare attack c1-3
I can attack, but what is the point. Unless I have more hour in c1-2 than c4 I will still end c4
not mandatory, but still meta enough
and that mean I have to camp to make sure I get more hour than them

all that for 1 pull
no but she stinky, get it so you can have stinky comps 
That's why you didn't get attack.
Because you are lazy
I already did that for like 1 year
so now I retire 
I rather play other game than camp to take back rank in less than 1 hour
cuz they camp too
and looked at Hoboman, got gem to c5 for 6 season straight. You didn't met guy hardcore enough.

as stink as Anis's ass?
shes rapun lewd with anis ass stinky level 
not waiting new chapters? 
defend on if I got harder bracket or not
Just pulled Noah. Is she better on PVP Def or Offense?
both
neither
@tropic summit I’m no good with normal teams I’m I doing it right?
I'm currently running; Nayuta, Jackal, TVesti, THelm,RRH; I didn't know if Noah might have a place here.
noise could be in place for label.
But your team positioning is still has tons to be improved.
what
the noah?
that noah only gonna die to like
absolute vesti
i gone thru this bracket nuff times to know
now i dont even need quantum on her i can run tempering for even more assurance
nope
noir bursting 

Fxk positioning in the one who makes positioning
I’ll just make they shoot where I tell them to
why rail always helping people and dissapear when i need him the most
I say you must be very lucky to get champ with these teams. And that's because u whale.

who knows
man ca too hard
@umbral belfry how does rapunzel work in the scarlet comp
I'd love to run a non-scarlet set here, label could feature maybe
I'm considering 4 baller teams and a crow
ye, clearly should reset her 
looked ok until i saw that tove in T5, you trying some new propaganda sh*t? 
pretend label
i'm working 
oh oke 
crow comp 
This was a good anime
which one was it?
I watched the first episode of sentenced to be a hero yesterday was good interested to see where it goes next
Akudama drive
ah I saw it was a good anime 🙂
This also will be one of the best from this season
Yeah hehe
Wait nvm, I misread. Label 's team attack buff only really applies when she bursts
my friend is super hyped about this anime lol
dude begged me to watch it for days so he'd have someone to yap to about it 
if she was stunned before her next shot lands, is it possible for her to cast burst first before applying shield? in that case will the shield sill be invulnerable?, also her other problem prone to making other b1 burst if she was stunned, but could do a label rapunzel juggle kind of deal?
checking if this worth the raise for pvp based..or pve wise
u no longer need scarlet to come home cuz she's gonna be mid soon enuff
at least still need for champ arena
no
no
as i got some coin to spend but idk which one worth the need
which unit is that even
quantum, bastion resilience maxed out for cube
idk which cube are great for pvp based aside from the 3
mhmm
lvl 5 so far not so good, time to max out
far as i know mostly go quantum, resilence/ bastion(optional)
well i max those 2 for hard node clear
if ur unit's gonna reload in a match ur units is built no good
unless sanis
but sanis is out of meta since vesti is a thing
usually u see sanis = easy clap
for pvp you want tempering and adjutant mostly, other than that you'd run your highest level cube for stats
so quantum is bad?
1440p
quantum is not bad
its good if you're like, 0.1% off from hitting the next burst treshold
quantum is needefd for break point, its just needed a lot less now days

big guru are my teams suck
i feel like it's not necessary 
No one knows till we test it. But I have a feeling she's gonna be like Kilo where if her shield goes down before burst, she's useless
she reapplies on normal attack is the thing
Yeah, 1s later
it's an hour long prologue episode though so be prepared
That 1s stun is a death sentence
thing is she's stunned before she reapply
so she cant cast burst, in the case of slow cindy 1s might not be too huge?
Waos
pleas halp, the teams are too normal i cant comprehend it
Slow Cindy I don't want to touch anymore, my Blanc is going with SWHA, no more Cindy
watched it already lol. I'm mad at him for wanting me to watch this every week because this is 100% going to be one of those shows that kills you with cliffhangers
i'm actually really just not sure if my teams are fesiable i'm not derping
nor i'm i trolling

this season looks pretty good some good sequels too
lol
And your nayuta with SGs
yup. And the best sequel (konosuba s4) got confirmed a few days ago, big stonks in animeland
that 's just emma sac
teams look fine except t4 because I facken hate the SG comp
they will hit p5 anyway
nayuta will live untill rest of the entire team ded (copium hope for extra slap)
went off that in s3 think I'm too old for this shit now lol.
fair
mf ghost, frieren, oshi no ko etc more the thing I want
MF Ghost the besto
when i see mf i think magic find
I thought something else entirely
I cooked my teams while rewatching it
wonder if oshi no ko is gonna pull the yosuga no sora ending 
||why? didn't the guy jump off a cliff||
i have to read manga rosy recommended
@shell hazel gonna summon you tomorrow night after i watch how kanata do the thing now, last ep was peak 
I mean they can change the ending, it's not like the Oshi manga had an ending that people liked

it basically ended out of nowhere
but i'm jailed doing genshin story... i hate that they now decide to take 3hours of your time for a mission without breaks
i heard yosuga no sora before..... i have vague memory of what its about
naa, it is always better when the anime get the manga ending, the problem is when the series doesn't end before they get an anime
the quality drops a lot
I never watched it but I know it's banned i word 
dont try to remember it lol
cursed show


