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water code... she's ok but you gotta know your bracket isn't gonna use rosanna
wouldn't want to run it myself 
you can do better imo 
I do enjoy the rapu soline variant
my tip is to use biscuit and rosanna in ur teams, obviously use blanc and jackal and vesti, swha, helmt
then get creative with pressure, stuns, anti nuke, indom, sacc
rapu on def is abusable, you're telling opponents to just ignore her
as for soline, she's great to keep you alive against early pressure, but that's it, bad burst gen and feeds
Thats why I like her specifically with rapu
Cuz rapu stun is good, but very finicky to keep her in range
ye but if ur team is a glass cannon, the moment you fail to 2RL, what are rapu and soline doin' 
that's still ultimately a glass cannon scarlet, denied by all the usual counters
cook new teams and try again 
If rapu stuns, would scar not pass noah and bay?
rapu won't stun, you're screaming "use something thats hits p1, tehe"
opponent will be like "oh oke lemme use 2 snipers and usual anti nuke"
So keep that to CA?
I do still like scar rosa im ngl
it's fine but too easy to deal with
against skilled opponents you can't run that anymore
you need to lay traps or add difficulty
The problem is, my bracket just copies me or rank 1
then make teams that are bad if copied, since they require specific setups or CS% or invest types
The keripo strat
sorta
keripo is still an exception because he's ultra whel
invest tier is just beyond normal human beings
"Oh you dont have 26% cs on every sniper/rl? Good luck"
The only unit I have that can invest dif is vesti
Cuz i put in the time to 12/12 her
you already know what my tip is on pvp and this gamemode as a whole 
Uhhh... dont?

don't bother, don't stress yourself and just get rid of it as you would with dailies 
it is not a gamemode that rewards effort, it only rewards p2p and ppl with too much free time
I like how I have spent alot on nikke, and yet none of it happened to be good for leveling up
that's because this game is ultimately a scam
it wants you to pay so that you can keep up with others ppl who pay
other ppl who pay will pay harder so that you can't keep up with them
which makes you spend more to keep up with them spending more
the moment you get to realize this, you should know what you shouldn't be doing
So who won this fight? 
Dawg I got pvp baited again ๐ญ
what's pvp baited?
Being redirected from #questions here and forced to open the game
we kinda need to know your investiment and current teams to know how to improve it
it's for your own good, not ours
most of the issues in your current teams is speed and positioning, all teams are fairly slow
but you've some good units at least, can improve this
Are we doing pve or pvp 
Well everything invested OL wise until Nayuta/OS Mihara excluding some in my teams(Full OL, feel free to ask for lines of any of my Nikkes.
Skill-wise until:
Max skills: All in teams, Rapi and Naga(excluding Burst) atm, excluding Bay and DKW a bit, still need to level her burst...
7/7/7 skills: Until Mast Maid excluding OG Ade
4/4/4 skills are all the rest in 1st screenshot, Chime and XBrid excluding Vesti iirc
Yeah I figured so, but all the previous times I've came here to ask(and dropped all the info that was necessary like investment) nobody answered so couldn't really figure out optimal teams atm
SP arena
- nayuta grave SWHA RH centi
- jackal siren cindy anis helmt
- rumani bay lib biscuit laplaceT
Notes
- improve your utilities, they're low CP (biscuit, jackal, centi, rumani put in synchro)
- wishlist noah, vestiTU, trina, noise
- T3 and T1 can be improved once those utilities are available or built, get your teams upgraded down the road
- consider starting building rosanna in the medium term
i think you need to give them time, not everyone is here checking 24/7 and people are doing it out of their free time and without being paid
be more patient imo 
as you can see from the notes your main problem is your utilities, they're all pretty low invest, core damage dealers and some core units are doing OK, work on those and you can drammatically improve your experience
Yeah yeah I was really patient(I waited for hours), but people just kinda ignored my question
a few hours isn't patient, i sometimes i reply after 24 hrs because i've a life 
I mean, fair enough, was mostly because chat just went moving on(AKA still being active at moments)
ye not everyone here is intending to help, some just yap or flex or just chitchat offtopic sometimes
either way your attitude also can help motivate people in helping, just be more patient overall 
Summer Anis or normal one?
normal one, as mentioned before you're really low on utilities, namely burst gen units, anis is ironically one of the best tier
to give you an idea, this is the ranking from best to worst burst gen batteries
anis is ranked 4th best burst gen unit, based on natural provided burst gen
Oof, does Anis need skill investment or no?
no she's transitory, you'll remove her for centi/rumani/trina or other options asap
in that team you'd love to have noah, specifically
but that's something you can worry about once you obtain her
How does one use rosanna?
Yeah I'm kinda stuck with her since I have her on wishlist since a couple months already
welcome aboard, i had units that took a year to show up from wishlist, i feel ya 
in the shower, in the bed or in the arena?
All 3?
she has multiple usage, mainly sacc or early pressure
natural 2RL rosanna is best to ensure you put early pressure on any attacker unit used by enemy comps
sacc rosanna is peculiar because she wants your units to die and give you burst gen via that (or enemy units also count), this is typically seen in SG rosanna teams, that want to murder units very early on and getting you to sacc via rosanna from enemy units
take this team for example:
while it may look like 3RL, if anis dies that team is kicked into 2RL, and rosanna B1 on 2RL will try to kill 2 attackers (if present), hitting before enemy reaches B2, which is usually the safety net (bay, noah, blanc... etc)
another typical sacc unit in p1 is viper or some other water code units, because arena is elec dominated, very high chances those units die within 2RL from early pressure
Does any of the non-attackers need doll/OL investment? Or just skill one?
all units used in arena will benefit from the usual 4/4/4 SR5-SR15, 4OL
that is because unfortunately CP is always part of the picture
then specific units benefit from certain skill invest, for example moran loves 10/10/10 fully maxed in everything... others can do with 4/4/7, like trina
Wait why???
this bad boy exists
your team is 15,4% or more in deficit? boom, your stats are nuked gradually
enemy gets instant advantage
(the opposite ofc is applied to you aswell if enemy attacks you on deficit)
most people here are retired or still learning from you (?
CP stacking is a way to defend yourself, even more so if you're a paying customer
yeah and reasonably so 
SU isn't taking any actual good QoL to motivate people to keep interest in pvp anyway
the only thing i don't see these days is the natsu guy asking for help
If so, this team is really in great disadvantage(even if I Synchro Rumani) (oops wanted to reply to the deficit graph)
uh now that you mentioned it 
would anyone be able to help me with 3 sp arena teams please?
yes lvl 1 rumani nukes your CP altogether, non fully OL'ed units also will kill your CP
until you can run meta teams, you're best just CP stacking them
Non fully OL'd units in the comps right now are:
Basically whole Team 3
I don't have the T9Ms necessary for any of them right now, Anis, Jackal and Centi.
can't help building teams, if i build teams i find different others to beat them so i don't use them
bench T3 and drop high CP units in there until then as bandaid
crown flex flex biscuit flex will do
that way you've at least p1 invulnerable early on, may throw off some ๐
I think this should do it
ye looks ok
will do until you can upgrade to meta teams
Which cubes should I equip for everyone?
How good are emma and vesti os in arena?
charge speed for alice and hit rate for rp no?
Which cubes are optimal there btw?
SP arena
- jackal siren scarlet trina lib
- moran noah vestiTU biscuit SWHA
- nayuta centi helmT RH rumani
Notes
- invest in your utilities (centi, biscuit, jackal, noah, rumani... etc)
- finish doll on helmT
- finish doll on moran
- consider getting lappy treasured
- build up rosanna on the medium term
I suppose Quantum is meta and resilience can be used rn for padding
for your T3 slot in any high lvl cube, you want that CP to be as high as possible
for the other:
nayuta any
grave any
SWHA temp
RH temp
centi any
jackal quantum
siren temp
cindy any
anis any
helmt any
My bad I mistook the cube name
Thanks so much for the help 
?
original vesti? very mid, not advisable to use her
original emma or new emma? new emma has a slot in absolute team and very situational tank
original emma worked in old meta but right now it's hard to fit her anywhere, she could hypothetically still work against high feed teams as linked p1 with jackal to overheal your team from bullets received
I think he means TU versions
overspec, so uhhh new one
perfect, tyvm appreciate you
Tactical Upgrade =/= Overspec btw
Oh yeah mb
new vestiTU is probably the best current DPS B3 and early pressure splashers (hits p1, p2, p3), as added bonus she has good burst gen and true damage lets her deal even with damage reduction stack teams, while also remaining strong on high deficit
give her 4% or more CS and she further gains burst gen on 2RL
after bursting, generally behind noah or indom teams, she can DPS all enemy positions, so she can also bypass biscuit locks
so who do i replace vesti with?
Oh btw one last help, how should my Rookie Arena team be like for now?
i'd upgrade T1 with this, you essentially turn it into early pressure with 3 splashers and added indom chance, while also improving speed
alrightttt got it, tha k youuu
But would u in general say thats a good team setup for arena rn? or is there sth u 'd sy is terribly stupid
go with nayuta SWHA helmT laplaceT siren
once you've noah, blanc and jackal properly built, we'll turn that into an indom variant
for now you'll be running early pressure + stun + glass cannon
they're ok teams, not the best ones, improve your utilities and you could upgrade some of those
What does ''Temp'' mean?
tempering
Still what is it?
damage reduction cube
Oh
very important on tanks and certain units/setups, also on main B3s to prevent an easy time to enemy rosanna's
I'll assume that's a cube I haven't unlocked yet
I still need to get a bit on date with LS
by utilities u mean skills? equipment?
buffers, batteries, utilities
biscuit, centi, jackal, rumani, noah, blanc... and the likes
they don't need to me maxed in skills, but you'll want 4OL gear and SR5-SR15 doll invest
as for skills in general you can refer to prydwen for most of the recent units, it's generally ok
alrrrr
Why you keep saying True DMG counter DR 
elaborate 
True DMG should only counter DEF. 
yeah and what does moran have in her kit
Definitely not damage reduction. 
Yeah she counter Moran solo for sure. 
*Pierce affects bullet mechanic. You can penetrate and damage multiple enemies in a line, ignore bypass shield, cover &. even body parts.
True Damage affects the damage a hit will deal. They ignore enemy defense values that would normally reduce your dmg.*
True dmg is reduced by dmg reduction
Its stupid
True dmg isnt even true in these parts
ye i also find that funny
definition of true damage in most games doesn't involve DEF, but it simply means it cannot be reduced by anything
but in nikke damage reduction and DEF are 2 different things
Fixed dmg usually
yup
Like in monster hunter
Lv7 
i don't use moran outside of sp arena afterall, she's meaningless because i'm low core on her 
the day i'll have her C7 out of RNG i might max her
Meanwhile moran in tetra

a man gotta do what a man must do
Indeed
i still remember your nero campaign team


We are evolving
must've been crazy times 

Yeah, jackal was my b1 for a while

I haven't updated my sp def in ages, is SW used with indom there or just as a battery and off burst 
if you wanna get rosanna'ed ye
better use her as flex offburst DPS or battery
Oh right rosanna is electric 
Use Noise/Moran burst 1 and hope she survive rosa.
Can rosa be taunted?
ye
Noise noah snow
you need CS% advantage though
Tho snow breaks rosa conceal, doesnt that drop her dmg
Moran need to be very faster to taunt Rosa. Noise Noah doesn't taunt because no one put Rosa p1-p2 in CA
if she gets hit she does get her dmg lowered, but on water code with ele atk you're still lethal
Fine. 26% cs team with noah b2
Keripo team
the man, the legend
Make it 30%
with your believe
Put yuni on there
I mentioned it when I linked it, left won ๐
please don't @ me asking to cook I'll just do so if i'm here/feel like it
mirror 3rd match attacker has the advantage
shoots p5 with SR where defender gets stuck on P1 moran
Yeah, search your chat. Left probably won 3-4-5 right?
yes

I can get 15B ish I think on this SR but not sure if I can push more with current invests
What if I get 15 bil

looks at my score
we going 6%

Im a day behind, so Im doing my hits today
14.8 but I can do better on the 2nd comp with b.ade
Is the 3 part qte in the raid?
yes
dafuq you mean 30%, go 6% it's ez
I cant beat story because of that specific qte
just bring healeroni
oh volume > dkw for me on the lib comp too
my dkw doesn't have enough cdr maybe but I do more with volume in same slot
Lib comp doesnt need atk up, but your dkw cdr skill should be 7
And I think you need 1 ammo line
she has no OL (it is 7 though)
Put wingman on her
wingman don't even give her 8 ammo 
if you unlucky you even shoot 7 time and have to reload without getting cdr 
Just have more cores right 
Oh thats terrible
Is bastion better?
no cube work without ammo line 

you just have to pray
Strong
that your timing doesn't get fuc

but tbh with Maid duo team your reload speed so fast that she should never have ammo issue
if you using outside of Maid duo team then pray that auto don't mess you up 
Maid duo infinite ammo kicks in after 3rd burst or so 
My lib and sbs are so big they do 3.7b this SR 
the first rotation isn't too bad because you burst in like 2s and she is already 2~3/8 towards cdr
it's the later rotations that maybe it will be weird 
Just mock it 
I cant clear it, I am skill issued
High cores + high dolls + heals you can tank the behemoth qte for some time
every move this boss does hit hard
you can even die to facetank Ziz nuke if you are squishy enough
have to at least cover 1-2 hit depending on your team invest
So my uninvested cdr units and occasionally b2 are cooked
You don't have to tank anything vs this boss
this boss don't even make you run out of cover
Bready team will be fine, crown team will probably be fine, im worried abt snow team and whatever else I use
Phase 3?
her missiles only aim at p3
Ohh
unless p3 is dead, then Idk who it aim at next
I can just clear missiles, takes like 1 sec
Ill just put mihara in p3
Yeah im cooked then
Full screen qte is instant kill
Ele qte is such high dmg it's basically dead but sometimes 1-2 units survive
Behemoth qte is high dmg ticks but tankable with big heals
tbh I think naked char can even dead to single target laser 
Thats terrible
this boss just hit that hard
yeah have to be careful with unbuilt stuff
though some fights I could just cover the 1 weak unit as priority and rest may not need it
Single target laser does around half hp vs neutral ele drake SR15 C7
like my soline dies pretty easy but I just focus cover for her
My 1 ele 0 atk base OL soline does as much dmg as drake 
@swift mango you've to watch this https://9gag.com/gag/aLn3x86
all in 1 turn, dafuq did i just watch 
it's like golf, the better you are the less turns you need
4 minutes of turn 1 
literally played the entire deck in the same turn
what did they do to that game 
there was always long combo even 10 years ago, it just depended on how many cards you need to open to start the combo
1 card full combo was usually rare, it was 2-3 card usually
nowadays there is 1 card full combo though
the worst case is half the deck is 1 card starter

well maybe not that much, like 1/3rd
doesn't seem like a good design if the opponent can play the game on his own for several minutes and either winning the match round 1 or essentially already locking you out from round 1? why even play 
it was mostly 2-3 card combo for a long time, then they introduced 1 card combo like 2-3 year ago I think
ah wow
and they did it for like 2 year and everyone realized it was miserable
so they are moving away from it again
or at least if it is 1 card combo, they are reducing the power
so they're healing at least 
although there are a few that are still mistakes
that will probably see the ban list soon
I mean it's not like 2-3 card combos are weaker than 1 card combo
it's just that you don't see them as consistently

issue is when they print cards that grab anything you want from the deck, so you grab another engine to continue the combo
it's not as oppressive when they lock you into using only the cards from that archetype

those deck are more fair even if they have 1 card combo
Can I have a deck of 55 pot of greed and then destiny board
when they have no lock, you just summon whatever you want 
Need a counter to this
All those cores then not even mlb vesti 
I feel like this lose to slow Cinderella 
try drakeT vestiTU emilia blanc rumani, record it 
(must not be in deficit)
Its for a reason.... vesti indom
might be holding cores


specifically needs 2 quantums tho, vesti is assumed 4%+CS
the objective is to either kill noah, force an helmt burst or get to slow cindy alive
Ye
slow cindy dooesn't work on that combo
Cook
Ros + 4 sg can lose
@shell hazel Cook
needs 4 quantum, can lappy instead, swap positions tho
Which variant did you try. Iโm curious 
reasoning here is:
0RL - 1RL noah is hit by lappy and vestiTU
1RL - 2RL noah is finished off by SG + lappy + vestiTU
2RL you get drake and lappy to die, vestiTU receives indom, you will finish them off during indom
mihara/blanc/rumani/cindy/biscuit
they don't have indom so he could probably run nayuta variant and get cindy invulnerable? 
nayuta cindy rumani biscuit mihara
I was thinking this
Mihara dead too early in p1, you might not get DoT 
Nayuta can. Get rosannaโd
oh good point might be 2nd highest atk% in there
This way, cindy is p4, safe from vesti autos
does cindy survive here long enough? 
she needs to tank 1 nuke then a few barrages?
The only thing attacking cindy here is sw
ah cuz you're letting SWHA burst
i quick battle, so no idea lol


record mine and kara's teams please, for science 
What cubes you equip for that team?
ye it's a lot of early pressure in the same kit
Wait. What if cindy kills sw
I have never seen defender heavy team kill p1 with normals 
ye i've seen cindy killing p1 too before
but that was a whel cindy so i dunno how it may matter
may need to change strat
Though cubes dont matter much on that team
Anyway, i'll wait till reset to test out teams
@glad meteor we got blue balled 
I ran out of atks for the next 45 mins
risky? 
Hold on lol
it's over can't sleep at night anymore 
Any ideias? The second team was a forfeit cause i dont know how to counter vesti teams.
I was thinking just put neutral. Since no more good fire pressure. Could do mihara though for some chain dmg I guess
A2 
so close 
keripo was pinging you, i felt compelled to ping you too 
I played uno reverse card on him
I'll draw 25
what if you have 25 card combo in uno hand 
put them in zwei hand then
Damn, t3 close 
LET'S F*ING GO
@shell hazel @upper grove @hollow lagoon @vapid lake who needs mmast 
I told you just kill it and you did
last QTE i literally said f* it gonna sacc cindy with crown invuln. in it
ok now to push to snek 

I didnโt use mmast 
your nayuta siren variant only got me to 900k HP block away
Skill issue
was good and easy on the fingers, but not enough dmg at 501 for f2p like ol' me 

it's not enough at high deficit I tried it as well
I keeled it 501
This keep happening too often. I even ragebaited because of this and rerolled Vesti until she has perfect lines. (4x ATK, 4X ELE, 2X CS, 2X AMMO) But goodbye crystals...

you got like c7 siren and nayuta though lol
@hollow lagoon ^ 
More like c3 and c5 back then 
And itโs still c6 and c5
Was it c5 or c4
he speaks like it's nothing @shell hazel 
I got Nayuta off of blue ticket
zant completely cannot relate to the average lad anymore 

blinded by gacha
Ele overrated, Miranda lose me 400m damage, Dorothy Privity comp does good yeah idk what game u guys are playing

i like fish 
Forced to use noah in t1 and 3 since bay cant even block lib 
Fish is indeed good
@shell hazel I tried Selegg as well my comp straight dies
game limiting me to cursed comps
Usually I use Vesti against Noah, and I usually won without any major problems, but the pvp rng just has not being good to me. I even lost sometimes because it throws some random bs's.
just don't die!
Too hard I rather play no healer SG

this comp is cursed but I can't do anything that does more with what I have left lol
wtf is that even
exactly
less cursed than the "things" i had to run
15.2 ish potential
Atleast put mana over Alice atleast u have fancy heal
bro my mana does about 2 dmg lol
Thatโs 1 dmg more than alice
it's not in this case trust me
When I trusted ur evil stuff you sent to taarn I lose 200m
@hollow lagoon since you're here, my fine gentleman, what are the strats for snek
I just wanted/hoped some good soul could show me the light.... 
you're better off checking the warudo comp rail, he did it recently with sw
post box + 3 enemy matchups let's see what can be done
it's what I'm aiming for
oh really? doko 
Sneak is 5swha
5? man i only got 1
Ask @shell hazel how to dupe rocks
Seems about right
She is big step up
was hoping i could use my ||as||s.doro cuz she's at least already built 
Maid Mast instead of Crown is much higher damage. Helm went from ~315m dmg up to ~354m dmg while Snow White had a huge increase from ~626m up to ~863m at the double spit mark when I wiped in earlier testing.
I need either of those 2 for double MG to deal with the heads because I don't want to build bready for this boss, my SBS is big but I woul...
thank you hippo, saving this
sw is just better than doro here
Technically this wins. But if I was to take a wild guess, t1 is deficit 
paddo it out 
that wild ade tho
Time to buy noise dupes from mileage shop
who needs new treasure
Wait for new treasures to make pvp more messy 
Iโm waiting for my crow treasure idea to get implemented
Is this school days. Or something 
Usually, T3 wins without major problems, unless the RNG kicks in. T2 i dont know how to counter. T1 is the wild card for me.
On being crit explode 100% of self hp as true damage to adjacent teammates
On burst switch position with enemy unit directly facing crow,
Chance to be crit+50%
Taunt all enemies 10 seconds
Reminds me of csm reze arc 
Have not watched yet
Why, it would be the ultimate cursed comp
school days or reze arc? watch the latter, don't watch the first, it's... a dark corner of anime that you should not discover 
I took a gander at the first a long time ago. Have not looked back. 
Reze arc, i need to watch
Didn't mean to bug. I will keep it in mind.
'is gud, go watch it
@shell hazel cook pasta 
@shell hazel i'll take some sushi
Only 13,47B on my first SR Attempt to make a baseline
My SW lost some CP though when getting rid of a CS% line. 
Stronger but still feels bad
Time for me to spend 2 more rocks to not get improvement on snow after reset 
Mine only has 2xATK and 1xEle 
This has been me for RRH, but it's 3 rocks not 2
I canโt complain much then
She still needs her crit DMG line 1, and I keep rollin ๐ฉ At least she currently has Crit Rate.
Welp.....
Sadly gotta roll off that CR for CD. And that ammo line
My sw pertty ok 3 ele 3 atk, I would like come crit rate tho
Nah, Iโm going to leave it, 4 ele is most important, 1 max ammo is good, nice to gc efor this raid too with qte
I rolled Qeq into that set, Iโm sure u can Selegg or xguilltine it
Qeq does appreciate damage taken a lot
And crit damage as well
I assume without treasure Miranda not worth it?
coward 
i did ||not
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hol' up... i saw this before... where did i put my modernia

Shift Up will have that as a tetra tower stage and still give you a new Sniper unit
My teams are
Tove grave sdoro drek soline
Miranda snow siren ada nayuta
Crown rapi helmt xlud selegg
Blanc qeq cindy rougemihara
Maids sbs lib liter
Too lazy to mald good run, snow is weird unit, but I would like to try
A minor spelling mistake got me muted for a minute

don't give them ideas 
For tetra tower they expect us to use blanc debuff 
Looking at some of the top ranks, for once it isn't full of limited units or collab units that I don't have
Might actually test if I can get a decent score by just copying some.
otherwise its Bade and a 4 sniper comp oh lord
Noir and Blanc has been my bread and butter all the way to 940+ in Tetra tower
i'm 536
you must be an elf
humans don't get to 536, elves can live far longer
no i'm cursed spirit
no the cursed spirit tried to possess you but you were more cursed than the spirit 

he saw your nikkepedia and realized he better not mess with this one
when is SU gonna stop this bullism
thank you for picking them up for me, you can give them now 
never
๐งฑ ๐งฑ 
Yeah this is so dumb, especially the higher synchro you get
it's like 0.004 % worth of a level up for me
yeah gotta sacc'ed too fast, can't run fire code in p1 i guess 
close to get cindy off @glad meteor
pretty hilarious that rosanna cloak prevents midhara to hit her with DoT
i guess it needs to target her to be applied and cloaked status prevents it
cindy team needs more gen
how about you add SWHA instead of cindy and that way ros dies to dot?
Mihara mid
i think swha could fix that team
as long as midhara goes off she wipes, they got no sustain
and ros loses cloak against SWHA

hmmmmmmm
Maybe we can add more burst gen instead
so a sudoku kind of indom naruhodo, that'd work 
Technically we could fix positioning too
nayuta ver nah? he doesn't need longer indom anyway
nayuta cindy rumani biscuit mihara
Maybe if nayuta isnโt top 2 highest atk
oh ye you mentioned it earlier oops 
pilgrim mold kekekekkeke
that's a pilgrim 

i'd just try the attempt of getting all 5 enemies DoT'ed
let's remove quantum for even slower midhara sacc
should be around 3.5RL-4RL
(at 2RL swha will get killed)
Oh yeah i forgot to message you this earlier. Put LaplaceT p3?
Assumes ele ol though. To guarantee noah dies
Sure, but note that i'm running on a 360k deficit
hello! pretty long term player but not sure how to build pvp teams... can i get some help for rookie arena and sp arena teams?
@shell hazel @hollow lagoon if you guys already went through this, tips to cheese volleyballs pre burst?
@tropic summit @shell hazel proud of me lelelelel
Campaign without vesti?

idk but 36-32 will give u similar set
Dunno about preburst, but I just spam Red hood to get to burst as fast as possible and let SBS handle them
add me if you want to friends I'll make a spot, you can copy my teams then
I had to vary teams a bit
esp in 36
I generally found that lib or vesti was good though
lib can one shot em if you don't disturb
Also surprisingly, on stages with multiple waves of volleyballs, a Noir burst actually kills them too, though dunno how low of a deficit you can have before they don't
or maybe you can see my clears anyway? sort by power last month
SP arena
- nayuta trina swha rh emilia
- jackal lib lapalceT blanc centi
- moran helmt noir viper noah
Rookie
- nayuta swha helmt laplaceT siren
Notes
- your utilities are poorly invested, finish their dolls (SR5-SR15), noah, centi, biscuit, rumani, jackal, noise, moran etc
- pvp core units for the most part are ok, can consider investing rosanna in the medium term
stages where I needed to quick burst? cover all RH gen + RH b1 into lib b3
tysm!
hmm that's an approach i could try
either add me so you can always see my clears or I should be one of the lowest clears in last month
it won't be absolutely lowest prob I wasn't going for that
Yeah, Lib should work. Wasn't in the game when I was at those stages so can only help with what worked for me back then
yeah you libbed it
manual siren and shoot away from them if needed
so you don't auto shoot them
what order I used varied a bit depending on stage
hi im looking for pvp defense teams, any suggestions? still learning pvp meta, tysm!
@shell hazel lmao lib wipes whole map, oke i can work with this 
You young whipper snappers. Back in my day we would mald with limited units, without screen wipes every burst 
is there a difference between defense teams and attack teams? can i just keep those 3 teams for sp arena for atk as well, just moving order around for countering?
honestly she was amazing here
I did try usual SBS combo sometimes it worked but more often than not wound up with lib and crew
my SBS not that strong but yeah..
I killed HM Only One with QEQ in my team 
sometimes RH for quick burst gen stages or where I needed to cover team
SP arena
- nayuta viper SWHA RH laplaceT
- jackal vestiTU drakeT blanc centi
- helmt cindy emilia siren trina
Notes
- wishlist noah, at your synchro being noahless is highly penalizing, consider building bayT until then
- raise CP and doll on your utilities and vestiTU and emilia (biscuit, centi, trina, rumani, noise, jackal, blanc)
attack is based on what you facing, if you've no clue what you doing use the same teams for attack, those are def teams
i actually have noah, i think i didn't put her in my synchro and only shared my synchro units = does that c hange the teams?
noah instead of trina, trina instead of viper
Noah is the goat
you don't have besto shieldo in synchro? @umbral crown we got a code red here
additionally build rumani and noise, once those 2 are ready T3 will change
ohh okay ty, once those are built what would my T3 look like?
i do have almost every unit, just i've only built for campaign/bossing
oh wow okay gotcha, is burst gen the most important thing in the game? I have scarlet that's one of mt strongest units but it seems she's not recommended
scarlet has become very well known, most ppl know how to deal with her
she's strong, just too famous
yes burst gen can decide a match before it starts
ohh i see so these teams are harder to deal with then
in this game defense is not meant to win, so you gotta run things ppl aren't familiar with or have high requirements or specific solutions
fast teams combined with threat, anti nuke, stuns, stalls, sustain, indoms or similar gimmics have better odds of winning
for the units without quantum cube, do i just use their regular campaign cubes then? like resilience for nayuta
your main B3 tempering, jackal quantum, blanc and noise vigor, noah tempering, rest w/e is high lvl
oh gotcha, okay tysm @tropic summit !!
also, do you have a suggestion for a rookie arena def team?
jackal vestiTU swha helmt noah
got it, tysm! and for the cubes it would be the same as sp arena right?
@shell hazel copied ur strat, this stage took more effort than i thought 
if raptures sent only volleyballs the ARK would be screwed 
So pro
This has to be the most annoying team I encountered.
their Vesti and SW damage me enough and once their giga buffed Nayuta B2s, my team immediately dies before I even B3.
I have good Rosanna but I canโt really use her since RH will always burst and Nayuta is indom.
I thought about using Noah but my CP is too low rn anyway to make any functional comp with her.
And it seems not a single team with CP deficit can handle their team. So at this point I cant do anything.
However I wanted to ask what teams are good to build long term to handle them. For example, would Helm life steal Noah work?
(Also I guess Siren is an answer but I dont have her at the moment)
Just use indom scarlet
2RL indom
2RL noah
Put in rapunzel in indom for guaranteed indom
No biscuit?
Wouldnโt Nayuta wipe them once noah shield wears off? My team is extremely damaged pre burst already
Though i assume youโll have deficit with biscuit team
jackal vestiTU lib blanc centi
or, if lib is lower hp than vestiTU
jackal lib vestiTU blanc centi
I have biscuit but she uuuh, not the strongest
nayuta is 9s indom, your indom is on 2RL with 10s, that means your indom always expires after nayuta is dead
nayuta is 9s at battle start
your indim is 10s at 2RL B2
regardless you need 236k CP
so make an indom team that hits CP requirement and gets either vesti or lib indommed
Welp itโs pretty much CP issue rn xdd
ensure links via shooting range if you need to
She went from 7 seconds to 9 seconds??
centi can be subbed for helmt
I started testing links in shooting range thanx to you. Saved me a lot of testing
maybe you just remember 7 seconds from something else
see if CP wise you hit 236k with
jackal lib vestiTU blanc helmt
Dude it was definitely 7 seconds from release, actually check makima, is makima 7 seconds?
ye you probably confused it with hers
I see, wow 9 second indom
Welp, have to bite my time
yep, CP gated, wait it out
Also Iโve read that Rosanna dispells 3 buffs from 2 highest atk enemies. When is it usable (outside of killing Jackal links)?

Dispells indom too
Would it kill Nayuta?
Yes, if she has high atk
Yikes, probably not usable since he has RH and SWHA in his team
Try scarlet, rapunzel, blanc, maiden, jackal
he's CP gated with his invested units
what makes you think he can use non CP padded units 
I still appreciate the suggestions!
I dont have Rapunzel yet but this comp seems interesting
Yeah figures

230k vs 280k should be doable
ye and his invested units don't hit 230k


we gonna have to do justice to besto shieldo
Pray for positioning luck
Yes u just have to be lucky 9 times in a roll to win CA
worked for me 
@shell hazel what is this 
my CP is trash if i go maid duo so i guess it's gonna be waiting time for 521 once new chaps hit
When is new chap
february somewhen probably

Teach me how to lock in Hime 
oh but this wild tav did it with similar CP but 20 synchro levels behind 
@shell hazel
Nah i messed up this season I forgot to set line up 
But didnt matter anyways had to go against aceross in qualifiers 


the clones die easy I think I just got lucky haha
it's def doable come back to it tomorrow maybe
joy
idk i kind of retried it couple times and it died
@shell hazel i'm done malding dis shit
end up not using privity/doro
u cheated
more or less done may try again last day to up my scores a bit
u told me 14b max
raptor jesus? le quat
might need bready invest and selegg to make 20
where 20b

could been 20 but i leveled tempering cube to make u proud
now i have no chip

pvp dragging you down

I use tempering on tove itโs not nothing
Maybe thatโs what pushed me from 18 to 19
Just wait for iron raid

I think i got 20b plus on providence iron raid
I have some terribly rolled 2 ele Bmilk and Raven
I have better chance of 20 with wind
I donโt rem what I got for the iron raid
It was the modified mother whale
I just know I got the tier 3 frame and I was happy lul
@shell hazel i've no idea how but it worked
nice copy pasta 
Nah just some stupid bait for non player at best lol.
you cleared that at 501 too?
No one has time for that aside from guys like him really. If the combo takes off and I have no counter I just surrender.
yeah that's just crazy 
copy pasta'ed the copy pasta
IRL 2 guys who know the combo would just skip all the steps and put out the cards at the end result. 
That would save 10 minutes of play. 
we're all just cloning eachother ๐
I warn you chapter 36 is MORE annoying than what you just had
eh at the next wall i'll take a break
just did over 40 stages + 2 bosses
I don't recall all the walls
i bet some volleyball stages are comin'
oh yes
they are by far the worst
for farters I just laugh and run nayuta + helmT + ada
so much healing even if I lose someone it tends to win
Tbh once you get the 93->102 coredust per hour jump pushing hard mode becomes way less important
not much about coredust at that point, but the increased gain on credits
it helps regardless
Because the 93 before 102 doesn't matter at all.
I like to push it's half the fun tbh
It's just nice to feel like you can chill out, I was in a rush to get past mirror container and behemoth because of it
Once next story chapters drop ppl will get that jump before mirror container
Can anyone confirm that SwolWhite's burst's 2 long charged attacks hit only one target?
my whale needs it, skill issued
I'm always chilling enough with campaign just doing enough what my account, phone and reaction speed allowed.
booba whale stuck at 32-32
most of my sp bracket too
what was 32-32 again?
it's funny, I guess they'll get it with next chapters regardless but they're at my sync or similar all the same
def not buying cd or anything ๐คฃ
32-32 is MC
32-32 is mirror container
well 32-33 prob
yeah, I'll ride my f2p extra cd as long as I can
it's not an easy boss but at 485 with whale cores it's doable
I know they have core max cindy I faced it before in SPA
I'm stuck on it too... Pointless to even try.
481 feels doable at least if you got Ein/Ada/Cindy built
the guy above with the SW pic is my SPA rival now
MC good boss
gatekeeping all the trash people in my bracket from 102 cd
A long way before I'm done building her.
they are pve main and campaign malder + ๐ณ
hackeroni, doing this at 461 
bro they cleared MC at 450 ish
dafuq
100% abusing some sort of bug for sure 
It's possible if you have a bunch of c7 nikkes with good lines
his bio is โOctopus, give me five metersโaaahhh!โ... wonder what he means 
my only core max is still HelmT and many people can do that now with the selection thing
Kraken give me rocks aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
oh oke makes sense
it's rocks yea
็ณๅคด is rocks
I google translated as I was interested
I feel we all face this issue ๐
I think they can beat snek and gluttony early too
their cp is basically mine + 20 sync and the associated cp jump
water dps especially they max on like mast and sw
I will snek 501 and may glottony 521 if i cba to push it too early, it won't take me that long to get there
the ol saying, "if there's something, you can bet there's an asian guy doing it better"
I can sync to 486 today with crates
big spender though I think bigger than me for all those max cores
Next month I will be done with this thing. I think @umbral crown already maxed it?;
It's one month a level after 11
pvp has always been the sidechick, you hit her sometimes, but you eventually always return to pve
I spread my point to Vigor, Endurance (stupid move to counter SBS who is already useless now really), Bastion, Resilence, Quantum or I should have tempura 15 by now. 
back to the shooting range we go
Iโm loyal 

@umbral crown I need a discord nitro emoji to forward
You guys get to see something I did today after triple ping, took a lot of patience 
what.have.you.done

SR-15 too right?
burn the account and then exorcise it and wash your hands with the best soap here
10/10/10?
no
@glad meteor i thought you were better than this 
4 rocks wasted on sw, i could have OLโd her and got title
someone has infected Kara

I am no better
I wasted too much rock on SW...
If I was commander, I would 
waste more rocks go!
you would what 

I would also


Dont read lore

should I max Scarlets skills?


10/x/10
you can anyway, extra s2 RNG is gud
that's good enough for me
yeah i mean if you know what she did and the person she is... 
but aside that the looks too... 

@umbral crown isnt rosy crow fan
@umbral crown you too?! 
time to block them both
imagine liking crow


what are the odds nayuta kills before blanc indoms?
kills who?
rosa helm sw
Helm and SW ofc
could be annoying if blanc indoms rosa too though, no?
she'll be stuck for half indom hitting p1
Could try it's just rookie. It could happen
then you've 4 nikke to tank her for 5s
if ros indoms and the other 2 are ded you may aswell have won
She could kill Snow and Helm before Indom hit.
in general unbuffed nayuta is like 20-25% ish HP on af unit
And he would win
RH buffed nayuta is probably 35%ish HP?
vestiTU generally drops a nikke below 50%hp
Believe in the ghost max hp
we looking at a chance they alive with 5-10%ish hp?
It's red hood buffed so half HP and another half from Vesti normal if he has enough CS and dmg.
but ye worth a shot for science
Believe in the 2rl buffed vesti shot?
yeh
I'll do it for science
I beat similar team before. It's investment heavy but possible
Maybebetter to sacc snow?
Could use LAPT/Emi instead of Helm and burst with Vesti/Snow
That would increase your chance
RH p5 ofc
Better to be with Vigor as well
time to... borrow.. this team comp
Got crited on

Biscuit also snipped by the 3 SR
died before she could be verily'd
rosanna was relatively healthy pre nayuta B2
around 80%ish hp
i guess RH and helmt sniped at least 1 more time between nayuta B2 cast
I'll do one more test
My missilis team.
@swift mango
looks the same?







