#pvp-arena

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gritty ridge
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Are you hating on snow indom

tropic summit
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water code... she's ok but you gotta know your bracket isn't gonna use rosanna

gritty ridge
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Oh that i do know

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But like I said I cant run it

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I dont have x.soline

tropic summit
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you can do better imo verilynayuta

gritty ridge
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I do enjoy the rapu soline variant

tropic summit
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my tip is to use biscuit and rosanna in ur teams, obviously use blanc and jackal and vesti, swha, helmt

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then get creative with pressure, stuns, anti nuke, indom, sacc

tropic summit
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as for soline, she's great to keep you alive against early pressure, but that's it, bad burst gen and feeds

gritty ridge
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Thats why I like her specifically with rapu

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Cuz rapu stun is good, but very finicky to keep her in range

tropic summit
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ye but if ur team is a glass cannon, the moment you fail to 2RL, what are rapu and soline doin' pain

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that's still ultimately a glass cannon scarlet, denied by all the usual counters

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cook new teams and try again verilynayuta

gritty ridge
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If rapu stuns, would scar not pass noah and bay?

tropic summit
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rapu won't stun, you're screaming "use something thats hits p1, tehe"

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opponent will be like "oh oke lemme use 2 snipers and usual anti nuke"

gritty ridge
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So keep that to CA?

tropic summit
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ye that's not an SP arena team

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not on def if anything

gritty ridge
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I do still like scar rosa im ngl

tropic summit
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it's fine but too easy to deal with

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against skilled opponents you can't run that anymore

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you need to lay traps or add difficulty

gritty ridge
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The problem is, my bracket just copies me or rank 1

tropic summit
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then make teams that are bad if copied, since they require specific setups or CS% or invest types

gritty ridge
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The keripo strat

tropic summit
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sorta

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keripo is still an exception because he's ultra whel

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invest tier is just beyond normal human beings

gritty ridge
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"Oh you dont have 26% cs on every sniper/rl? Good luck"

gritty ridge
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The only unit I have that can invest dif is vestiNoahCry

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Cuz i put in the time to 12/12 her

tropic summit
gritty ridge
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Uhhh... dont?

tropic summit
gritty ridge
tropic summit
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don't bother, don't stress yourself and just get rid of it as you would with dailies thumbsup

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it is not a gamemode that rewards effort, it only rewards p2p and ppl with too much free time

gritty ridge
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I like how I have spent alot on nikke, and yet none of it happened to be good for leveling up

tropic summit
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that's because this game is ultimately a scam

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it wants you to pay so that you can keep up with others ppl who pay

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other ppl who pay will pay harder so that you can't keep up with them

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which makes you spend more to keep up with them spending more

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the moment you get to realize this, you should know what you shouldn't be doing

gritty ridge
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At least thats not how I spend

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I spend on skinsBlancyay

lusty crypt
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Wait a sec I'll send team 3

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Now laugh at my teams KEKW

swift mango
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So who won this fight? pain

lusty crypt
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Dawg I got pvp baited again ๐Ÿ˜ญ

tropic summit
lusty crypt
tropic summit
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it's for your own good, not ours

tropic summit
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but you've some good units at least, can improve this

haughty mortar
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Are we doing pve or pvp KEKW

lusty crypt
# tropic summit we kinda need to know your investiment and current teams to know how to improve ...

Well everything invested OL wise until Nayuta/OS Mihara excluding some in my teams(Full OL, feel free to ask for lines of any of my Nikkes.
Skill-wise until:
Max skills: All in teams, Rapi and Naga(excluding Burst) atm, excluding Bay and DKW a bit, still need to level her burst...
7/7/7 skills: Until Mast Maid excluding OG Ade
4/4/4 skills are all the rest in 1st screenshot, Chime and XBrid excluding Vesti iirc

lusty crypt
tropic summit
# lusty crypt Wait a sec I'll send team 3

SP arena

  • nayuta grave SWHA RH centi
  • jackal siren cindy anis helmt
  • rumani bay lib biscuit laplaceT

Notes

  • improve your utilities, they're low CP (biscuit, jackal, centi, rumani put in synchro)
  • wishlist noah, vestiTU, trina, noise
  • T3 and T1 can be improved once those utilities are available or built, get your teams upgraded down the road
  • consider starting building rosanna in the medium term
tropic summit
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be more patient imo thumbsup

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as you can see from the notes your main problem is your utilities, they're all pretty low invest, core damage dealers and some core units are doing OK, work on those and you can drammatically improve your experience

lusty crypt
tropic summit
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a few hours isn't patient, i sometimes i reply after 24 hrs because i've a life prayge

lusty crypt
tropic summit
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either way your attitude also can help motivate people in helping, just be more patient overall thumbsup

tropic summit
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anis is ranked 4th best burst gen unit, based on natural provided burst gen

lusty crypt
tropic summit
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in that team you'd love to have noah, specifically

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but that's something you can worry about once you obtain her

haughty mortar
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How does one use rosanna?

lusty crypt
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haughty mortar
tropic summit
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she has multiple usage, mainly sacc or early pressure

natural 2RL rosanna is best to ensure you put early pressure on any attacker unit used by enemy comps
sacc rosanna is peculiar because she wants your units to die and give you burst gen via that (or enemy units also count), this is typically seen in SG rosanna teams, that want to murder units very early on and getting you to sacc via rosanna from enemy units

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take this team for example:

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while it may look like 3RL, if anis dies that team is kicked into 2RL, and rosanna B1 on 2RL will try to kill 2 attackers (if present), hitting before enemy reaches B2, which is usually the safety net (bay, noah, blanc... etc)

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another typical sacc unit in p1 is viper or some other water code units, because arena is elec dominated, very high chances those units die within 2RL from early pressure

lusty crypt
tropic summit
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that is because unfortunately CP is always part of the picture

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then specific units benefit from certain skill invest, for example moran loves 10/10/10 fully maxed in everything... others can do with 4/4/7, like trina

tropic summit
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your team is 15,4% or more in deficit? boom, your stats are nuked gradually

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enemy gets instant advantage

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(the opposite ofc is applied to you aswell if enemy attacks you on deficit)

lone sequoia
tropic summit
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CP stacking is a way to defend yourself, even more so if you're a paying customer

tropic summit
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SU isn't taking any actual good QoL to motivate people to keep interest in pvp anyway

lone sequoia
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the only thing i don't see these days is the natsu guy asking for help

lusty crypt
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rich sage
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would anyone be able to help me with 3 sp arena teams please?

tropic summit
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until you can run meta teams, you're best just CP stacking them

lusty crypt
lone sequoia
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can't help building teams, if i build teams i find different others to beat them so i don't use them

tropic summit
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crown flex flex biscuit flex will do

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that way you've at least p1 invulnerable early on, may throw off some ๐Ÿ’

lusty crypt
tropic summit
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will do until you can upgrade to meta teams

lusty crypt
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Which cubes should I equip for everyone?

ancient folio
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How good are emma and vesti os in arena?

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charge speed for alice and hit rate for rp no?

lusty crypt
tropic summit
lusty crypt
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I suppose Quantum is meta and resilience can be used rn for padding

tropic summit
lusty crypt
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My bad I mistook the cube name

ancient folio
tropic summit
# ancient folio How good are emma and vesti os in arena?

original vesti? very mid, not advisable to use her
original emma or new emma? new emma has a slot in absolute team and very situational tank
original emma worked in old meta but right now it's hard to fit her anywhere, she could hypothetically still work against high feed teams as linked p1 with jackal to overheal your team from bullets received

ancient folio
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overspec, so uhhh new one

lusty crypt
ancient folio
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Oh yeah mb

tropic summit
# ancient folio overspec, so uhhh new one

new vestiTU is probably the best current DPS B3 and early pressure splashers (hits p1, p2, p3), as added bonus she has good burst gen and true damage lets her deal even with damage reduction stack teams, while also remaining strong on high deficit

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give her 4% or more CS and she further gains burst gen on 2RL

tropic summit
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after bursting, generally behind noah or indom teams, she can DPS all enemy positions, so she can also bypass biscuit locks

ancient folio
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so who do i replace vesti with?

lusty crypt
tropic summit
ancient folio
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But would u in general say thats a good team setup for arena rn? or is there sth u 'd sy is terribly stupid

tropic summit
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for now you'll be running early pressure + stun + glass cannon

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lusty crypt
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lusty crypt
tropic summit
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very important on tanks and certain units/setups, also on main B3s to prevent an easy time to enemy rosanna's

lusty crypt
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I'll assume that's a cube I haven't unlocked yet KEKW I still need to get a bit on date with LS

ancient folio
tropic summit
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they don't need to me maxed in skills, but you'll want 4OL gear and SR5-SR15 doll invest

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as for skills in general you can refer to prydwen for most of the recent units, it's generally ok

ancient folio
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alrrrr

swift mango
swift mango
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swift mango
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gritty ridge
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True dmg is reduced by dmg reduction

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Its stupid

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True dmg isnt even true in these parts

tropic summit
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ye i also find that funny

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definition of true damage in most games doesn't involve DEF, but it simply means it cannot be reduced by anything

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but in nikke damage reduction and DEF are 2 different things

gritty ridge
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Fixed dmg usually

tropic summit
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yup

gritty ridge
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Like in monster hunter

umbral crown
tropic summit
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the day i'll have her C7 out of RNG i might max her

tropic summit
umbral crown
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Indeed

tropic summit
umbral crown
gritty ridge
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Crusty tetraDoro

umbral crown
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Glad you do not remember my jackal campaign

umbral crown
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We are evolving

tropic summit
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must've been crazy times verilynayuta

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upper grove
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I haven't updated my sp def in ages, is SW used with indom there or just as a battery and off burst pepehmmm

tropic summit
upper grove
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Oh right rosanna is electric ShiftyDerp

tropic summit
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aye

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tasty breakfast for her verilynayuta

swift mango
gritty ridge
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Can rosa be taunted?

tropic summit
gritty ridge
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Noise noah snowpoggies

tropic summit
gritty ridge
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Tho snow breaks rosa conceal, doesnt that drop her dmg

swift mango
tropic summit
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if she gets hit she does get her dmg lowered, but on water code with ele atk you're still lethal

gritty ridge
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Keripo team

tropic summit
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the man, the legend

swift mango
gritty ridge
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Where tf you getting an extra 4%

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Yuni?

swift mango
tropic summit
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26% is probably the max verilynayuta

gritty ridge
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Put yuni on thereRajangRizz

shell hazel
swift mango
shell hazel
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please don't @ me asking to cook I'll just do so if i'm here/feel like it

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mirror 3rd match attacker has the advantage

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shoots p5 with SR where defender gets stuck on P1 moran

swift mango
shell hazel
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yes

gritty ridge
shell hazel
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I can get 15B ish I think on this SR but not sure if I can push more with current invests

gritty ridge
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What if I get 15 bil

shell hazel
tropic summit
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looks at my score
we going 6%

gritty ridge
shell hazel
gritty ridge
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Im a day behind, so Im doing my hits today

shell hazel
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14.8 but I can do better on the 2nd comp with b.ade

gritty ridge
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Is the 3 part qte in the raid?

shell hazel
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yes

gritty ridge
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Nvrmind

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Im getting 30%

shell hazel
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lol

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pause tech on pc ๐Ÿ˜›

tropic summit
gritty ridge
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I cant beat story because of that specific qte

tropic summit
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just bring healeroni

shell hazel
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oh volume > dkw for me on the lib comp too

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my dkw doesn't have enough cdr maybe but I do more with volume in same slot

gritty ridge
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Lib comp doesnt need atk up, but your dkw cdr skill should be 7

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And I think you need 1 ammo line

shell hazel
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she has no OL (it is 7 though)

gritty ridge
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Put wingman on her

placid bloom
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wingman don't even give her 8 ammo TimiProud

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if you unlucky you even shoot 7 time and have to reload without getting cdr clueless

gritty ridge
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Is bastion better?

placid bloom
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no cube work without ammo line TimiProud

gritty ridge
placid bloom
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you just have to pray

umbral crown
placid bloom
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that your timing doesn't get fuc

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but tbh with Maid duo team your reload speed so fast that she should never have ammo issue

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if you using outside of Maid duo team then pray that auto don't mess you up clueless

upper grove
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Maid duo infinite ammo kicks in after 3rd burst or so pepehmmm

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My lib and sbs are so big they do 3.7b this SR KEKW

placid bloom
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the first rotation isn't too bad because you burst in like 2s and she is already 2~3/8 towards cdr

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it's the later rotations that maybe it will be weird TimiProud

gritty ridge
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Kuwon, is the qte tankable

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Please say yes

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Please dont say with noah

upper grove
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Just mock it pepehmmm

gritty ridge
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Im on stage 6 rn, I cant

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I missed the pre reset

upper grove
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Then mock after reset in 2h

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"It depends"

placid bloom
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I never tried to tank the QTE

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I assume no

gritty ridge
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I cant clear it, I am skill issued

upper grove
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High cores + high dolls + heals you can tank the behemoth qte for some time

placid bloom
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every move this boss does hit hard

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you can even die to facetank Ziz nuke if you are squishy enough

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have to at least cover 1-2 hit depending on your team invest

gritty ridge
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So my uninvested cdr units and occasionally b2 are cooked

placid bloom
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Ziz nuke can be fully covered

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you just lose dps clueless

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compared to facetank

upper grove
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You don't have to tank anything vs this boss

placid bloom
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this boss don't even make you run out of cover

gritty ridge
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Bready team will be fine, crown team will probably be fine, im worried abt snow team and whatever else I use

placid bloom
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unless you are eating the missiles on p3

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that will delete p3 cover

gritty ridge
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Phase 3?

placid bloom
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her missiles only aim at p3

gritty ridge
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Ohh

placid bloom
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unless p3 is dead, then Idk who it aim at next

gritty ridge
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I can just clear missiles, takes like 1 sec

placid bloom
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I never tested pepehmmm

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it's not super threatening move anyway

gritty ridge
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Ill just put mihara in p3think_smart

shell hazel
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think qte fail = dead

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some stuff you can tank a bit but not that afaik

gritty ridge
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Yeah im cooked then

upper grove
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Full screen qte is instant kill

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Ele qte is such high dmg it's basically dead but sometimes 1-2 units survive

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Behemoth qte is high dmg ticks but tankable with big heals

placid bloom
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tbh I think naked char can even dead to single target laser TimiProud

gritty ridge
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Thats terrible

placid bloom
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this boss just hit that hard

shell hazel
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though some fights I could just cover the 1 weak unit as priority and rest may not need it

upper grove
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Single target laser does around half hp vs neutral ele drake SR15 C7

shell hazel
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like my soline dies pretty easy but I just focus cover for her

placid bloom
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my SR0 QEQ loses like 75% of her HP bar to laser if I facetank I think

upper grove
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My 1 ele 0 atk base OL soline does as much dmg as drake KEKL

tropic summit
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all in 1 turn, dafuq did i just watch AndersonLaugh

shell hazel
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it's like golf, the better you are the less turns you need

tropic summit
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literally played the entire deck in the same turn

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what did they do to that game RapunzelCursed

placid bloom
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there was always long combo even 10 years ago, it just depended on how many cards you need to open to start the combo

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1 card full combo was usually rare, it was 2-3 card usually

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nowadays there is 1 card full combo though

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the worst case is half the deck is 1 card starter

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well maybe not that much, like 1/3rd

tropic summit
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doesn't seem like a good design if the opponent can play the game on his own for several minutes and either winning the match round 1 or essentially already locking you out from round 1? why even play clueless

placid bloom
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it was mostly 2-3 card combo for a long time, then they introduced 1 card combo like 2-3 year ago I think

tropic summit
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ah wow

placid bloom
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and they did it for like 2 year and everyone realized it was miserable

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so they are moving away from it again

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or at least if it is 1 card combo, they are reducing the power

tropic summit
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so they're healing at least BurninKek

placid bloom
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although there are a few that are still mistakes

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that will probably see the ban list soon

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I mean it's not like 2-3 card combos are weaker than 1 card combo

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it's just that you don't see them as consistently

tropic summit
placid bloom
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issue is when they print cards that grab anything you want from the deck, so you grab another engine to continue the combo

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it's not as oppressive when they lock you into using only the cards from that archetype

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those deck are more fair even if they have 1 card combo

gritty ridge
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Can I have a deck of 55 pot of greed and then destiny board

placid bloom
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when they have no lock, you just summon whatever you want clueless

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Need a counter to this

upper grove
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All those cores then not even mlb vesti susge

placid bloom
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I feel like this lose to slow Cinderella pepehmmm

tropic summit
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(must not be in deficit)

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upper grove
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tropic summit
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got an emilia alternative?

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i don't usually build collab chars

glad meteor
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What if you just throw ros + 4 sg PepeTF

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Maybe nayuta one better

tropic summit
glad meteor
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Ye

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slow cindy dooesn't work on that combo

glad meteor
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Ros + 4 sg can lose

tropic summit
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@shell hazel Cook

tropic summit
glad meteor
tropic summit
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reasoning here is:

0RL - 1RL noah is hit by lappy and vestiTU
1RL - 2RL noah is finished off by SG + lappy + vestiTU
2RL you get drake and lappy to die, vestiTU receives indom, you will finish them off during indom

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glad meteor
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I see

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Once mihara dies. Vesti can hit cindy

tropic summit
glad meteor
tropic summit
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nayuta cindy rumani biscuit mihara

glad meteor
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I was thinking this

placid bloom
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Mihara dead too early in p1, you might not get DoT pepehmmm

glad meteor
tropic summit
glad meteor
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This way, cindy is p4, safe from vesti autos

tropic summit
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she needs to tank 1 nuke then a few barrages?

glad meteor
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The only thing attacking cindy here is sw

tropic summit
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ah cuz you're letting SWHA burst

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placid bloom
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placid bloom
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seem Noah is bottleneck but this team can reach 1.7RL or so maybe

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glad meteor
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Wait. What if cindy kills sw

placid bloom
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I have never seen defender heavy team kill p1 with normals CrownHUH

glad meteor
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Iโ€™ve done it before

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I killed emi unlinked p1 with just cindy

tropic summit
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ye i've seen cindy killing p1 too before

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but that was a whel cindy so i dunno how it may matter

glad meteor
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Though cubes dont matter much on that team

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Anyway, i'll wait till reset to test out teams

tropic summit
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@glad meteor we got blue balled sadge

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I ran out of atks for the next 45 mins

placid bloom
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risky? clueless

placid bloom
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if they have less cs then your Cinderella get block

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glad meteor
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Kill noah

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They dont b3

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What to put in p3 though, laplace?

placid bloom
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XDiesel clueless

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believe TimiProud

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what is strong fire RL pepehmmm

glacial haven
placid bloom
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damn there is none hmmz

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all poop

glad meteor
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I was thinking just put neutral. Since no more good fire pressure. Could do mihara though for some chain dmg I guess

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A2 poggies

tropic summit
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so close susge

shell hazel
tropic summit
shell hazel
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I'll draw 25

shell hazel
placid bloom
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what if you have 25 card combo in uno hand clueless

shell hazel
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put them in zwei hand then

tropic summit
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LET'S F*ING GO

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@shell hazel @upper grove @hollow lagoon @vapid lake who needs mmast PrettySmile

shell hazel
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I told you just kill it and you did

tropic summit
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last QTE i literally said f* it gonna sacc cindy with crown invuln. in it

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ok now to push to snek KEKL

shell hazel
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grats dude my crown was only one left alive as well ๐Ÿ˜„

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crown carry confirmed

tropic summit
hollow lagoon
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Skill issue

tropic summit
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was good and easy on the fingers, but not enough dmg at 501 for f2p like ol' me BurninKek

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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I keeled it 501

glacial haven
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shell hazel
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you got like c7 siren and nayuta though lol

tropic summit
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@hollow lagoon ^ EinkkPoint

hollow lagoon
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And itโ€™s still c6 and c5

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Was it c5 or c4

tropic summit
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he speaks like it's nothing @shell hazel KEKW

hollow lagoon
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I got Nayuta off of blue ticket

tropic summit
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zant completely cannot relate to the average lad anymore whyyy

hollow lagoon
hollow lagoon
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Ele overrated, Miranda lose me 400m damage, Dorothy Privity comp does good yeah idk what game u guys are playing

glad meteor
hollow lagoon
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Fish is indeed good

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@shell hazel I tried Selegg as well my comp straight dies KEKW game limiting me to cursed comps

glacial haven
hollow lagoon
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Too hard I rather play no healer SG

shell hazel
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this comp is cursed but I can't do anything that does more with what I have left lol

hollow lagoon
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wtf is that even

shell hazel
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exactly

tropic summit
shell hazel
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15.2 ish potential

hollow lagoon
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Atleast put mana over Alice atleast u have fancy heal

shell hazel
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bro my mana does about 2 dmg lol

hollow lagoon
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Thatโ€™s 1 dmg more than alice

shell hazel
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it's not in this case trust me

hollow lagoon
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When I trusted ur evil stuff you sent to taarn I lose 200m

tropic summit
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@hollow lagoon since you're here, my fine gentleman, what are the strats for snek

glacial haven
shell hazel
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you're better off checking the warudo comp rail, he did it recently with sw

tropic summit
shell hazel
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it's what I'm aiming for

tropic summit
hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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the warudo clear/comp

hollow lagoon
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Seems about right

tropic summit
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oh at 501 even NovelHmm

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what ele is needed on helmt and swha?

hollow lagoon
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She is big step up

tropic summit
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was hoping i could use my ||as||s.doro cuz she's at least already built whyyy

shell hazel
tropic summit
shell hazel
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sw is just better than doro here

glad meteor
tropic summit
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that wild ade tho

glad meteor
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Time to buy noise dupes from mileage shop

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whyyy who needs new treasure

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Wait for new treasures to make pvp more messy whyyy

hollow lagoon
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Iโ€™m waiting for my crow treasure idea to get implemented

glad meteor
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Look at this team lol hmmz

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Surely rosa doesnโ€™t get stunned poggies

glad meteor
glacial haven
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Usually, T3 wins without major problems, unless the RNG kicks in. T2 i dont know how to counter. T1 is the wild card for me.

hollow lagoon
glad meteor
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Have not watched yet

hollow lagoon
tropic summit
glad meteor
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Reze arc, i need to watch

haughty mortar
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hollow lagoon
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@shell hazel i'll take some sushi

versed mesa
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Only 13,47B on my first SR Attempt to make a baseline

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My SW lost some CP though when getting rid of a CS% line. pain

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Stronger but still feels bad

glad meteor
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Time for me to spend 2 more rocks to not get improvement on snow after reset verilynayuta

versed mesa
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Mine only has 2xATK and 1xEle pain

haughty mortar
glad meteor
haughty mortar
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She still needs her crit DMG line 1, and I keep rollin ๐Ÿ’ฉ At least she currently has Crit Rate.

glad meteor
glacial haven
haughty mortar
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Sadly gotta roll off that CR for CD. And that ammo line

hollow lagoon
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My sw pertty ok 3 ele 3 atk, I would like come crit rate tho

glad meteor
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Nah, Iโ€™m going to leave it, 4 ele is most important, 1 max ammo is good, nice to gc efor this raid too with qte

hollow lagoon
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Who does qte with sw this raid

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KEKW maddness

glad meteor
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Miranda believers

hollow lagoon
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I rolled Qeq into that set, Iโ€™m sure u can Selegg or xguilltine it

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Qeq does appreciate damage taken a lot

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And crit damage as well

versed mesa
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I assume without treasure Miranda not worth it?

tropic summit
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hol' up... i saw this before... where did i put my modernia

hollow lagoon
radiant coral
glad meteor
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My teams are

Tove grave sdoro drek soline
Miranda snow siren ada nayuta
Crown rapi helmt xlud selegg
Blanc qeq cindy rougemihara
Maids sbs lib liter

Too lazy to mald good run, snow is weird unit, but I would like to try

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A minor spelling mistake got me muted for a minute

glad meteor
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For tetra tower they expect us to use blanc debuff NoahCry

hollow lagoon
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i still use blanc

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for tetra tower

versed mesa
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Looking at some of the top ranks, for once it isn't full of limited units or collab units that I don't have KEKW Might actually test if I can get a decent score by just copying some.

hollow lagoon
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otherwise its Bade and a 4 sniper comp oh lord

versed mesa
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Noir and Blanc has been my bread and butter all the way to 940+ in Tetra tower

hollow lagoon
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i'm 536

tropic summit
hollow lagoon
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why

tropic summit
hollow lagoon
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no i'm cursed spirit

tropic summit
hollow lagoon
tropic summit
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he saw your nikkepedia and realized he better not mess with this one

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when is SU gonna stop this bullism

hollow lagoon
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2 rock today and 1 pity rock

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pertty good

tropic summit
hollow lagoon
versed mesa
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tropic summit
tropic summit
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pretty hilarious that rosanna cloak prevents midhara to hit her with DoT

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i guess it needs to target her to be applied and cloaked status prevents it

glad meteor
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verilynayuta cindy team needs more gen

tropic summit
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how about you add SWHA instead of cindy and that way ros dies to dot?

glad meteor
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Mihara mid

tropic summit
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i think swha could fix that team

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as long as midhara goes off she wipes, they got no sustain

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and ros loses cloak against SWHA

glad meteor
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Still rng right

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Since mihara isnโ€™t guaranteed to hit 5

tropic summit
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hmmmmmmm

glad meteor
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Maybe we can add more burst gen instead

tropic summit
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so a sudoku kind of indom naruhodo, that'd work pepehmmm

glad meteor
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Technically we could fix positioning too

tropic summit
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nayuta ver nah? he doesn't need longer indom anyway

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nayuta cindy rumani biscuit mihara

hollow lagoon
glad meteor
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Maybe if nayuta isnโ€™t top 2 highest atk

tropic summit
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oh ye you mentioned it earlier oops KEKL

hollow lagoon
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pilgrim mold kekekekkeke

tropic summit
hollow lagoon
glad meteor
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This is interesting

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Wait no

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No burst gen after sacc

tropic summit
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i'd just try the attempt of getting all 5 enemies DoT'ed

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let's remove quantum for even slower midhara sacc

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should be around 3.5RL-4RL

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(at 2RL swha will get killed)

glad meteor
glad meteor
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glad meteor
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Wait

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Do not run if on deficit

gritty ridge
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I love deficit

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That team seems like itd work on deficit, just put like lib in p3

hazy wave
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hello! pretty long term player but not sure how to build pvp teams... can i get some help for rookie arena and sp arena teams?

tropic summit
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@shell hazel @hollow lagoon if you guys already went through this, tips to cheese volleyballs pre burst?

hollow lagoon
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@tropic summit @shell hazel proud of me lelelelel

hollow lagoon
versed mesa
shell hazel
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I had to vary teams a bit

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esp in 36

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I generally found that lib or vesti was good though

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lib can one shot em if you don't disturb

versed mesa
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Also surprisingly, on stages with multiple waves of volleyballs, a Noir burst actually kills them too, though dunno how low of a deficit you can have before they don't

shell hazel
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or maybe you can see my clears anyway? sort by power last month

tropic summit
shell hazel
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stages where I needed to quick burst? cover all RH gen + RH b1 into lib b3

tropic summit
shell hazel
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it won't be absolutely lowest prob I wasn't going for that

versed mesa
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Yeah, Lib should work. Wasn't in the game when I was at those stages so can only help with what worked for me back then

tropic summit
shell hazel
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manual siren and shoot away from them if needed

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so you don't auto shoot them

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what order I used varied a bit depending on stage

ivory obsidian
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hi im looking for pvp defense teams, any suggestions? still learning pvp meta, tysm!

tropic summit
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@shell hazel lmao lib wipes whole map, oke i can work with this KEKW

versed mesa
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You young whipper snappers. Back in my day we would mald with limited units, without screen wipes every burst hmmz

hazy wave
shell hazel
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I did try usual SBS combo sometimes it worked but more often than not wound up with lib and crew

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my SBS not that strong but yeah..

versed mesa
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I killed HM Only One with QEQ in my team KEKW

shell hazel
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sometimes RH for quick burst gen stages or where I needed to cover team

tropic summit
tropic summit
ivory obsidian
tropic summit
versed mesa
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Noah is the goat

shell hazel
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you don't have besto shieldo in synchro? @umbral crown we got a code red here

tropic summit
ivory obsidian
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i do have almost every unit, just i've only built for campaign/bossing

ivory obsidian
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oh wow okay gotcha, is burst gen the most important thing in the game? I have scarlet that's one of mt strongest units but it seems she's not recommended

tropic summit
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she's strong, just too famous

tropic summit
ivory obsidian
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ohh i see so these teams are harder to deal with then

tropic summit
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fast teams combined with threat, anti nuke, stuns, stalls, sustain, indoms or similar gimmics have better odds of winning

ivory obsidian
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for the units without quantum cube, do i just use their regular campaign cubes then? like resilience for nayuta

tropic summit
ivory obsidian
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oh gotcha, okay tysm @tropic summit !!

ivory obsidian
tropic summit
ivory obsidian
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@shell hazel copied ur strat, this stage took more effort than i thought NovelHmm

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if raptures sent only volleyballs the ARK would be screwed CrownOwO

shell hazel
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36 is even more annoying lol

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yep volleyballs are super OP haha

vapid lake
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So propoggies

ancient sun
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This has to be the most annoying team I encountered.

their Vesti and SW damage me enough and once their giga buffed Nayuta B2s, my team immediately dies before I even B3.

I have good Rosanna but I canโ€™t really use her since RH will always burst and Nayuta is indom.

I thought about using Noah but my CP is too low rn anyway to make any functional comp with her.

And it seems not a single team with CP deficit can handle their team. So at this point I cant do anything.

However I wanted to ask what teams are good to build long term to handle them. For example, would Helm life steal Noah work?

(Also I guess Siren is an answer but I dont have her at the moment)

ionic rose
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Put in rapunzel in indom for guaranteed indom

ancient sun
glad meteor
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Though i assume youโ€™ll have deficit with biscuit team

tropic summit
ancient sun
tropic summit
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nayuta is 9s indom, your indom is on 2RL with 10s, that means your indom always expires after nayuta is dead

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nayuta is 9s at battle start
your indim is 10s at 2RL B2

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regardless you need 236k CP

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so make an indom team that hits CP requirement and gets either vesti or lib indommed

ancient sun
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Welp itโ€™s pretty much CP issue rn xdd

tropic summit
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ensure links via shooting range if you need to

ionic rose
tropic summit
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centi can be subbed for helmt

ancient sun
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I started testing links in shooting range thanx to you. Saved me a lot of testing

tropic summit
tropic summit
ionic rose
tropic summit
ionic rose
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I see, wow 9 second indom

ancient sun
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Welp, have to bite my time

tropic summit
ancient sun
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Also Iโ€™ve read that Rosanna dispells 3 buffs from 2 highest atk enemies. When is it usable (outside of killing Jackal links)?

hollow lagoon
ancient sun
ionic rose
ancient sun
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Yikes, probably not usable since he has RH and SWHA in his team

ionic rose
tropic summit
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what makes you think he can use non CP padded units CrownHUH

ancient sun
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I still appreciate the suggestions!

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I dont have Rapunzel yet but this comp seems interesting

tropic summit
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it's meaningless if you're CP gated

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dead before you even hit 1RL

ancient sun
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Yeah figures

tropic summit
ionic rose
tropic summit
ionic rose
tropic summit
ancient sun
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I am sync 207 currently DoroINNOCENT

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But thank you so much for the help!

umbral crown
umbral belfry
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@dense kindle TimiLook

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lock in next ca

ionic rose
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Pray for positioning luck

umbral belfry
ionic rose
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Yes u just have to be lucky 9 times in a roll to win CA

umbral belfry
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worked for me Doro

tropic summit
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@shell hazel what is this AndersonLaugh

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my CP is trash if i go maid duo so i guess it's gonna be waiting time for 521 once new chaps hit

ionic rose
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When is new chap

tropic summit
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february somewhen probably

ionic rose
dense kindle
tropic summit
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oh but this wild tav did it with similar CP but 20 synchro levels behind BurninKek

@shell hazel

dense kindle
dense kindle
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But didnt matter anyways had to go against aceross in qualifiers TimiProud

umbral belfry
shell hazel
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the clones die easy I think I just got lucky haha

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it's def doable come back to it tomorrow maybe

hollow lagoon
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idk i kind of retried it couple times and it died

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@shell hazel i'm done malding dis shit

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end up not using privity/doro

shell hazel
hollow lagoon
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u cheated

shell hazel
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more or less done may try again last day to up my scores a bit

hollow lagoon
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u told me 14b max

shell hazel
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that was before I found raptor jesus

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now 15B or so

hollow lagoon
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raptor jesus? le quat

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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it's a good score

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one day you get 20B SyuenPats

hollow lagoon
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might need bready invest and selegg to make 20

tropic summit
hollow lagoon
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there's one thing i havent tried

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mihara burst vs xlude burst

umbral crown
hollow lagoon
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now i have no chip

tropic summit
hollow lagoon
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I use tempering on tove itโ€™s not nothing

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Maybe thatโ€™s what pushed me from 18 to 19

glad meteor
hollow lagoon
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My iron units suck

glad meteor
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I think i got 20b plus on providence iron raid

hollow lagoon
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I have some terribly rolled 2 ele Bmilk and Raven

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I have better chance of 20 with wind

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I donโ€™t rem what I got for the iron raid

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It was the modified mother whale

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I just know I got the tier 3 frame and I was happy lul

tropic summit
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@shell hazel i've no idea how but it worked

nice copy pasta AndersonLaugh

swift mango
tropic summit
swift mango
swift mango
shell hazel
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Rail I am glad I was able to blaze the trail for you AndersonLaugh

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as many did before me haha

tropic summit
swift mango
shell hazel
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I warn you chapter 36 is MORE annoying than what you just had

tropic summit
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just did over 40 stages + 2 bosses

shell hazel
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I don't recall all the walls

tropic summit
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i bet some volleyball stages are comin'

shell hazel
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oh yes

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they are by far the worst

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for farters I just laugh and run nayuta + helmT + ada

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so much healing even if I lose someone it tends to win

ivory violet
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Tbh once you get the 93->102 coredust per hour jump pushing hard mode becomes way less important

tropic summit
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it helps regardless

swift mango
shell hazel
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I like to push it's half the fun tbh

ivory violet
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It's just nice to feel like you can chill out, I was in a rush to get past mirror container and behemoth because of it

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Once next story chapters drop ppl will get that jump before mirror container

signal hull
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Can anyone confirm that SwolWhite's burst's 2 long charged attacks hit only one target?

shell hazel
swift mango
shell hazel
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booba whale stuck at 32-32

tropic summit
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what was 32-32 again?

shell hazel
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it's funny, I guess they'll get it with next chapters regardless but they're at my sync or similar all the same

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def not buying cd or anything ๐Ÿคฃ

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32-32 is MC

ivory violet
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32-32 is mirror container

shell hazel
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well 32-33 prob

tropic summit
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oh that's why

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it took me MANY tries for that one afterall

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too many

shell hazel
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yeah, I'll ride my f2p extra cd as long as I can

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it's not an easy boss but at 485 with whale cores it's doable

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I know they have core max cindy I faced it before in SPA

signal hull
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I'm stuck on it too... Pointless to even try.

shell hazel
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481 feels doable at least if you got Ein/Ada/Cindy built

tropic summit
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this TAV guy is in most low clears of past month

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wonder who that is @shell hazel

shell hazel
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the guy above with the SW pic is my SPA rival now

vapid lake
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MC good boss heh gatekeeping all the trash people in my bracket from 102 cd

swift mango
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A long way before I'm done building her.pain

shell hazel
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they are pve main and campaign malder + ๐Ÿณ

tropic summit
shell hazel
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bro they cleared MC at 450 ish

tropic summit
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dafuq

shell hazel
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they cleared Behe at 461

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hold on

tropic summit
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100% abusing some sort of bug for sure KEKW

ivory violet
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It's possible if you have a bunch of c7 nikkes with good lines

shell hazel
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does this help explain it?

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core maxes galore

tropic summit
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his bio is โ€œOctopus, give me five metersโ€”aaahhh!โ€... wonder what he means NovelHmm

shell hazel
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my only core max is still HelmT and many people can do that now with the selection thing

vapid lake
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Kraken give me rocks aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

tropic summit
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oh oke makes sense

shell hazel
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it's rocks yea

vapid lake
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็Ÿณๅคด is rocks

shell hazel
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I google translated as I was interested

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I feel we all face this issue ๐Ÿ˜„

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I think they can beat snek and gluttony early too

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their cp is basically mine + 20 sync and the associated cp jump

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water dps especially they max on like mast and sw

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I will snek 501 and may glottony 521 if i cba to push it too early, it won't take me that long to get there

tropic summit
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the ol saying, "if there's something, you can bet there's an asian guy doing it better"

shell hazel
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I can sync to 486 today with crates

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big spender though I think bigger than me for all those max cores

swift mango
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Next month I will be done with this thing. I think @umbral crown already maxed it?;pepehmmm

shell hazel
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i'm getting tempura to 11 tomorrow

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then tempura + resi to 13 in time

swift mango
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It's one month a level after 11

glad meteor
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Pvegonning

shell hazel
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my bastion behind but I'll catch it up once those 2 are 13

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bastion is 8

tropic summit
swift mango
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I spread my point to Vigor, Endurance (stupid move to counter SBS who is already useless now really), Bastion, Resilence, Quantum or I should have tempura 15 by now. BurninKek

shell hazel
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@umbral crown I need a discord nitro emoji to forward

glad meteor
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You guys get to see something I did today after triple ping, took a lot of patience susge

glad meteor
shell hazel
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SR-15 too right?

tropic summit
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burn the account and then exorcise it and wash your hands with the best soap here

shell hazel
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10/10/10?

glad meteor
tropic summit
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@glad meteor i thought you were better than this sadge

glad meteor
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4 rocks wasted on sw, i could have OLโ€™d her and got title

shell hazel
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someone has infected Kara

glad meteor
swift mango
glad meteor
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If I was commander, I would verilynayuta

shell hazel
tropic summit
glad meteor
shell hazel
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I would also

shell hazel
tropic summit
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you both need an exorcist RapunzelCursed

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what do you even like about crow whyyy

glad meteor
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Dont read lore

tropic summit
shell hazel
short plaza
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should I max Scarlets skills?

shell hazel
shell hazel
tropic summit
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you can anyway, extra s2 RNG is gud

short plaza
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that's good enough for me

tropic summit
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but aside that the looks too... whyyy

glad meteor
tropic summit
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oh well i guess it's subjective anyway sadge

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i cannot save Kara from this fate sadge

glad meteor
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@umbral crown isnt rosy crow fan

tropic summit
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@umbral crown you too?! susge

short plaza
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what? really?

vapid lake
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sadge time to block them both

tropic summit
tropic summit
glad meteor
swift mango
lunar pawn
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what are the odds nayuta kills before blanc indoms?

tropic summit
lunar pawn
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rosa helm sw

swift mango
lunar pawn
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could be annoying if blanc indoms rosa too though, no?

tropic summit
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she'll be stuck for half indom hitting p1

swift mango
tropic summit
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then you've 4 nikke to tank her for 5s

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if ros indoms and the other 2 are ded you may aswell have won

swift mango
tropic summit
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in general unbuffed nayuta is like 20-25% ish HP on af unit

swift mango
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And he would win

tropic summit
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RH buffed nayuta is probably 35%ish HP?

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vestiTU generally drops a nikke below 50%hp

glad meteor
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Believe in the ghost max hp

tropic summit
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we looking at a chance they alive with 5-10%ish hp?

swift mango
tropic summit
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but ye worth a shot for science

glad meteor
tropic summit
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yeh

lunar pawn
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I'll do it for science

tropic summit
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time for science and popcorn

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altho vesti may be ded at 2RL B1 timeframe

swift mango
glad meteor
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Maybebetter to sacc snow?

swift mango
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That would increase your chance

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RH p5 ofc

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Better to be with Vigor as well

lunar pawn
tropic summit
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quadrakill

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even biscuit... KEKW

vapid lake
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pepehmmm time to... borrow.. this team comp

swift mango
lunar pawn
swift mango
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Biscuit also snipped by the 3 SR

lunar pawn
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died before she could be verily'd

tropic summit
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rosanna was relatively healthy pre nayuta B2

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around 80%ish hp

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i guess RH and helmt sniped at least 1 more time between nayuta B2 cast

lunar pawn
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I'll do one more test

tropic summit
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@swift mango i found your rapunzel

swift mango
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My missilis team.ShiftyDerp

lunar pawn