pvp-arena

[rustic sandal]

I'll get HelmT this week.
As for the wishlist... they are there. I'm not lucky enough to get them.

[tropic summit]

ok that's hilarious, your SWHA was supposed to die

that team is easily fixable, you can win afterall

[polar valley]

Hm... so swap T1 to T2?

Idk why after put centi its weak now XD

But interesting, we find a way to win T3 already, now that left to fix T2

[tropic summit]

change it to this

[tropic summit]

centi is a battery, we need to be fast enough to prevent their priv from stunning you

[polar valley]

I see

Final confirmation, Initiate?

[tropic summit]

ye looks good, this time you'll have SWHA wiping while you're shielded

[polar valley]

Noted

R1 total loss
R2 win
R3 loss (wtf? Rng?)

[tropic summit]

did you record? might've to do with the ticks from moran proccing

vesti can crit afterall

it felt weird your R3 won earlier afterall

[polar valley]

Rng i assume..

[tropic summit]

so the main difference, soline didn't proc at 15% hp on emma and you didn't kill moran instantly unlike previous

since you didn't kill moran early, you also didn't kill anis

just get helm treasured

[polar valley]

Huh.. thats weird.. 😭 my nikke is racist i guess

So no counter?

[tropic summit]

if you had the nikke

your box is atrocious, no burst gen

and you're being punished for it here

[polar valley]

Damn

😔

[tropic summit]

matter of time, just get your pvp core units and you'll be fine

[polar valley]

So i cant win againts it no more? Or should i try switch place soline with emma?

[tropic summit]

i wouldn't fight that, you're fighting blindfold and with 1 arm tied

that's how bad your box is against that matchup

[polar valley]

Wew, i guess Hawk is back on action i guess

Smart rival ever

[tropic summit]

no he just has better units obtained so far

doesn't even have to do with being smart

[polar valley]

Lucky i must say

[tropic summit]

ye that's more about it

[fast nest]

replace soline with SWHA. how about it.

[polar valley]

Pretty much is like me using no armor againts malenia at this point, do i get it wrong?

[polar valley]

Recommended? @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

you gonna need to fix T2 then, as SWHA is used there already

[tropic summit]

my recommendation is to get helm treasured then you can bother dealing with this without being punished

[polar valley]

Noted

Damn, truly Skill vs luck at this point

[tropic summit]

it's like you've to dig a hole... but you've a pick while he has a shovel

[polar valley]

Nah, its like fighting malenia without armor

[tropic summit]

oh that's another good one

[polar valley]

🤣✋🏻
Gotta give that hardcore more y know?

For sure hawk will be like: what a formidable rival, dont even have good nikkes yet can win somehow

[fast nest]

Nayuta Siren Liberalio Vesti Eunwha.
What is its CP?

Concept is stun noah. and kill them all with libby's burst.

[tropic summit]

box: #pvp-arena message
speed: see SS

Attempt 1:
#pvp-arena message
R2 loss
R3 win (incosistent)

Attempt 2:
#pvp-arena message
R2 win (fixed with noah)
R3 loss (RNG on procc)

[polar valley]

Finally... DEFEATED!!! @tropic summit i use same team but adjust their position since i find that swole shouldn't die first so i swap place with Noah = total win

As for Soline, i swap place with emma = now winning back

Hawk finna hawk tuah again 🗣🔥 thanks @tropic summit for amazing team

[tropic summit]

soline repositioning didn't matter, you critted moran early again

R3 remains incosistent, so keep it mind

[polar valley]

Ah i see

[rustic sandal]

Anxiety hits hard.

[tropic summit]

just log off and do something else

[polar valley]

Dw, let Hawk cook again and ill let you know @tropic summit
I love this, although i dont have good nikke, but because of your technical analysis, we still won somewhat XD

Challenging pvp ever

[tropic summit]

eh i wouldn't call it a win when it's RNG, but a win is a win i guess? good job

[polar valley]

Yezzur, better than total loss, because before your help, 2 of my team total loss left opponent untouched

[rustic sandal]

I check again and I'm back to Dia 3. It happens all the time.

I was in Ch7 for 16 hours and I was refreshing every hour to see if I got pulled down. Then I attacked Ch4 and did the same every 10 minutes.

And now I'm in Ch1, checking every minute.

[polar valley]

Now i put him some edged, so yeah, its a win

[tropic summit]

ye but i don't advise you keep doing that everyday, it easily gets toxic on your own mind and sanity, it's better to run your attempts then just log off

[rustic sandal]

This is my first time being on Top. I've been playing this game for a total of 1 year across 3 different accounts now.

I've never been past Ch7 on all of them.

[polar valley]

Wew, u travel around while nikke'ing?

[rustic sandal]

I've been a Month 1 player, believe it or not.

1st account - Laplace to Modernia
2nd account - S.Helm to M.Priv
3rd account - Nayuta to Today

That's my timeline.

On the first and second, I left because gacha bent me over.

[rustic sandal]

Kiett guy compensation for sucking in SPA.

[white compass]

Is Crit dmg on snowHA doing much pvp?

Without Miranda etc

[rustic sandal]

Like damn bro that sucks.

BTW that PO1 has Core 7 Liter but is stuck at 160.

Priorities.

Welp, it was fun when it lasted.

[tropic summit]

30 minutes, your opponent is sweaty

just

[rustic sandal]

They probably went online to check and found the easiest Ch1 of their entire life.

[tropic summit]

probably auto'ed it

[rustic sandal]

I'm so sad.

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/sakuta-azusagawa-mai-sakurajima-seishun-buta-yarou-wa-bunny-girl-senpai-no-yume-wo-minai-rascal-does-not-dream-head-pat-gif-11620612559245250700

[rustic sandal]

I get bullied in Rookie, then Special, then forced to watch my bracket take over CA.

Meanwhile my wishlist looks like this:

[fathom rock]

https://youtu.be/LXbzr0_Up2o

[tropic summit]

800hp block off, but i'm playing with physical pain, i'll try again later on

thanks meanwhile

[fathom rock]

Get well

[vapid lake]

Play nikke with one hand too much

[tropic summit]

[brazen pilot]

god how do i beat this shit

[tiny scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[polar valley]

https://tenor.com/view/suisei-credit-card-hololive-suisei-credit-card-gif-22602303

[tropic summit]

1. blanc rumani midhara biscuit flex (3RL or 4RL)
2. kill blanc in p2 (scarlet vestiTU laplaceT flex flex 2RL)
3. stall scarlet, video attached

[brazen pilot]

imma try that stall comp first :3

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/go-for-it-you-can-do-it-encourage-do-it-gif-14006408

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-sign-language-see-you-gif-18446768

[brazen pilot]

absolutely flawless, thank you

[tiny scroll]

That's impressive. I figured that much of a CP gap would be a no go!

[tropic summit]

helmT RH buffed can 1hitko up to 22-24% deficit

as for noah she's biscuit locked so she'll be fine as long as she's on stack 1 or stack 2 of biscuit

[bold mirage]

How do you counter a 2rl blanc team?

[tropic summit]

depends who's the indom, where blanc is positioned and where the attackers are

blanc in p1 p2 p3 can be punished with vestiTU and splashers/scarlet s2

blanc in p4 or p5 cannot be punished, but you can rosanna the attackers

blanc in p1 can be stunned

[bold mirage]

Their sw getting indom

[tropic summit]

1. scarlet vestiTU laplaceT blanc jackal (kill blanc)
2. blanc rumani midhara biscuit flex (3RL or 4RL) to indom outstall via DoT
3. noah biscuit helmt ros centi to kill SWHA and helmT, you'll misindom on jackal and can tank safely lib nuke

[bold mirage]

Thank you

I tried option 2
With helm as flex to make it 3rl

Oh wait I think I know the problem

Some reason mihara got the indom and never died
But she doesnt have lowest health on team

[tropic summit]

ye mihara has to die to maximize that team DoT pressure

can put her in p1 in case to ensure she gets killed by autos

[bold mirage]

I will try that next reset and record this time

[unique wagon]

Noodle stopped being a questions frequent

[bold mirage]

Questions got weird

[swift mango]

I just checked it's the same as usual.

[bold mirage]

This time of day yeah
But the freakies will be up soon

[lavish lintel]

how to counter that team

[rustic sandal]

Twas a good run.

[haughty mortar]

Upgrade skills/synch or wait then? 🙁

Did anyone recommend you anything?

[polar valley]

Dw, i already won, because of Rail :3

When technical >> luck nikke

[haughty mortar]

Show me! I wanna learn

NM found the video

Yes so you skipped their SW team coz it was too fast. I predicted a similar situation for T2, where you silence their P1 it's down hill for them from there. For T3, I guess absolute does have what it takes in PVP

Yo @tropic summit can you please give me a rundown of this matchup and why for example my recommendation wasn't good? Other than the CP gap.

[polar valley]

It feels great

Because it shows you're a true warrior only using that kind of nikke to beat a Lucky Broken Nikke

Feels like u managed to defeat malenia without armor

[haughty mortar]

Never played that Git Gud game

[fast nest]

[hollow lagoon]

[fathom sparrow]

I got Laplace MLB today, is it still worth it to invest in her treasure for SP arena?

[hollow lagoon]

depends on ur resource reserves

i can see her more of a CA thing now days tho

[worn ridge]

Guys what team should i use against this guy ?

[fathom sparrow]

People keep knocking me back down to diamond 1 or 2 in SP arena so I'm re evaluating my teams. I'd like to stay in the champ 8-10 range. Just thought maybe LaplaceT could help

[hollow lagoon]

which one are u losing

[worn ridge]

I havent tried yet

But that moran and bay comp , seems hard to beat

[hollow lagoon]

ur cp gapped

[worn ridge]

He's the 3rd in my server but im always aiming against the 2th but the second always is eating my gems

[hollow lagoon]

u do better trying to rosana their indom

lowr cp

u need 1.8m

for team2

alternatively

what was that comp we used for vesti ?

oh wait no link

[hollow lagoon]

lib needs to live for her nuke to deal good damage against team 2

[ancient sun]

How do I beat this guy in long term? Is there a specific strategy/teams against blanc x vesti or SW?

I am trying to decide in what units I should invest

[hollow lagoon]

moran noah biscuit helm trina

[ancient sun]

Helm should be phase 3?

[hollow lagoon]

helm?

absolutely

[ancient sun]

I will have to wait two weeks then. I am currently farming her items

[worn ridge]

I remember once against him he used moran bay and then i used liberalio with blanc I just killed bay the rest were just fine

[hollow lagoon]

yep

bay cover over taken is weird thing

but ur unde deficit

[worn ridge]

Could rei work against the third team?

[ancient sun]

does this team perform well in defense? This guy has a grudge against me

[hollow lagoon]

use it and he learn it

and u will deal with it have fun deciding

[ancient sun]

Haha. That would be fun

[hollow lagoon]

never tried rei nuke, the goal for team 3 is to yeet unprotected attackers before blanc or cause mis indom or live the indom, in theory if u run snipers on lib nuke, they should indom rumani while rest of their attackers fail.
my opnion is, do u know if ur rosana can take out their vesti and emi

[polar valley]

Trust me, it requires SKILL

[ancient sun]

I have to rearrange and use Vesti somewhere else. But I plan to use Blanc x SW so I have to think hard how to build her team. Are there units that good at killing before 2RL? My Vesti is hella invested. I only know that Emilia can splash three positions. Are there more options?

[hollow lagoon]

@worn ridge couple things inmind for team3.
do u know if they ave nuff cs% for their blanc to dodge siren stun
do u know if ur rosana can take out their vesti and emi
do u wanna try snipers to mis indom them into the rumani
for team 2
can you kill their moran whiel under deficit

[worn ridge]

Idk man let me show u

Also he is using rapu thats the problem too

[hollow lagoon]

what rapu i dont see rapu

[haughty mortar]

There is a reason why Git Gud spells GG

[polar valley]

Fr2
Sans moment

[keen vapor]

Good game

[worn ridge]

Bruh im half-asleep o though he was using it

[haughty mortar]

Ahh Chime always with that zinger

[hollow lagoon]

hopefully ur noah and biscuit is weak shit

and cause their indom to go like rumani

then u nuke for the win

[haughty mortar]

Rumani is smexy

[hollow lagoon]

[haughty mortar]

Not as smexy as Marian

[hollow lagoon]

ill smexy u

[haughty mortar]

Are you.......a smexy 5'7 fit woman?

[hollow lagoon]

no i'm a man of similar height

[haughty mortar]

Then no, but I could take your sista?

[tame vessel]

[hollow lagoon]

no haz

tf was that

[haughty mortar]

haz? Don't have? Shame

[hollow lagoon]

what i'm i suppose to counter if i only get to see it for 15 frames

[abstract badge]

Anyone able to come up with a counter for this?

[worn ridge]

Ty

[worn ridge]

Btw does ele stat work with rossana burst or just atk stat works with her?

[hollow lagoon]

ele works, easy water unit kill

[abstract badge]

Sorry, realized that I need to crop somemore just in case

Should be fine now

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle

[shell hazel]

Hime you lived?

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

oh no its ace

[umbral belfry]

only the power of g o o nettes can save me now

[shell hazel]

well done anyway hime getting to the final alone is great, now lock in and win it

[umbral belfry]

I'll try my best

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel bout time for some one normal show up

its all u now

#pvp-arena message

[shell hazel]

no lol I

[abstract badge]

absolute trio?

[hollow lagoon]

dead enemy b1 cant burst

scarlet counter on top of absolute trio should kill their rapid fire b1

if u didnt invest in the trio tho @shell hazel will give u a proper answer

prob smething like indom vesti

or defender set

slow cindy?

slow cindy could work

[shell hazel]

nope I won't I

[hollow lagoon]

[abstract badge]

is the trio the best for this and in general? idm slowly investing in them if that is the case

[hollow lagoon]

trio just hates biscuitset or nayuta p1

their mistake was not keeping rosana in a safe spot

so she gets splashed by vesti on top of eating scarlet counters

in theory atleast

[shell hazel]

[abstract badge]

would they be ok with lv0 gear?

skills are fine

[hollow lagoon]

depends on ur deficit

[shell hazel]

i'm killing a giant bunny I don't have time for this pvp nonsense 😄

[abstract badge]

490k deficit

oh right, no dolls on the trio

[hollow lagoon]

that tells me nothing

are u 450k deficit on 600k teams or 450k deficit on 3million cp team

[abstract badge]

2.19M vs 1.70M

My trina and scarlet are nearly maxed out

[hollow lagoon]

1.7 not enough

[worldly osprey]

@swift mango in the end, you and i finally met in the finals but it was the losers’ bracket finals

[hollow lagoon]

safer to try slow cindy

[abstract badge]

it worked

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit i did a good deed

[abstract badge]

3/4 wins, prob due to weak rumani but finally got a counter

[queen dagger]

👋 curious what rookie/sp teams I should try to put together from this

[short moon]

@umbral belfry are you feeling like you will win?

[umbral belfry]

I'm feeling it ngl

but it's very close

I do believe in rapu stunning the team bc ace's vesti hits fast and strong

[short moon]

Good enough for me, make sure you have a speech ready

[umbral belfry]

a friend's prediction but i agree in it

at least regardless of the outcome a pie wins

[short moon]

[pure moss]

@umbral belfry we have a situation

Hera showdown

[umbral belfry]

kilia pie showdown for me too

gl to you

[pure moss]

We're brothers from the same union

Gl to you too

[umbral belfry]

[pure moss]

Can you help me pick the loser?

[shell hazel]

I was curious how snow white was used in the top finalist teams from my bracket

[pure moss]

Heh

[shell hazel]

tenshi winning I think

I feel like this kind of wasting the snow white potential tbh

you can 2RL that with SR anis no need for snow white here

[fast nest]

I think it is because sometimes dps is not enough. SWHA gonna add some more.

[umbral belfry]

sure

[shell hazel]

think there are better use cases for her tbh

[wind kelp]

Every time Again, a supposed "sure win", yet, here we are.

Not that it matters that much, only two frames available in full guesses either way, and plenty of Leagues to go 😄 I need to win my preliminary so i know for sure when i lose.

[haughty mortar]

Did you bet against the NEW FACE!?

[wind kelp]

All the cp, levels, teams pointed to it!

[noble python]

Got booted down to Challenger 9

I can either fight the new Challenger 6 or Challenger 7

Challenger 6 defenses their R2 defense would always be a CP deficit I also have Rosanna 4/4 OL gear now

Challenger 7 defenses

@umbral belfry @shell hazel

[haughty mortar]

The issue is not deficit itself, but how big it is. Multiply their CP by .8

I would not recommend smashing C6

[noble python]

Kk then let’s smash C7 lol

You said to first not me

[eager brook]

To beat this I guess it's just 2RL Noah but are there other alternatives not using Noah?

[gaunt pulsar]

2rl indom

[pulsar leaf]

What’s indom

[quartz vortex]

how is there a 1mil power player in my bracket

[shell hazel]

🐳 ?

check your server id against theirs, server id is sequential so it's an idea of when you both started.
if they have all dupes/costumes etc then likely big spender

[quartz vortex]

im 032 hes 309

does it mean he started after me?

[shell hazel]

nah server id should be a much larger number

i'm 2345X something

[quartz vortex]

the whole thing is 06158032

i just said the 3 last since the rest is the same

[shell hazel]

that isn't right, you're looking at the wrong number

show me a screenshot of their profile?

[quartz vortex]

oh is the number on the right?

[shell hazel]

every X players a new server is added but it's sequentially done, so if they are a similar number they started a similar time to you

that is how they do who you compete with for the server rankings mostly

[quartz vortex]

at least hes the only one at 1 mil

[shell hazel]

what is their server number?

[quartz vortex]

12185

[shell hazel]

damn yeah same time

did you take any breaks?

pvp is all based on account age, if you stopped playing for months and they didn't then gg

they'd keep going and you would be frozen in time

[quartz vortex]

not really but i used to just not know what i was doing in pvp until i started looking into it in the recent months

[shell hazel]

that isn't pvp related they have like 200 levels on you lol

[quartz vortex]

most other player are at 300-400

[shell hazel]

I used the magic of discord search to find your oldest post, so you started 6 months ago ish
#team-building message

[quartz vortex]

with another higher at 600+

i was going to ask

[shell hazel]

that is definitely a big spender then, they are almost at my sync and I started playing 13 months ago, I also spend (a bit)

[quartz vortex]

how to beat this

[shell hazel]

so they almost out-paced me and have 7 months left to do so further

[cunning crown]

also running this with fully treasured snake and feeling pretty unbricked

has she come home to you yet

[shell hazel]

snow white?

[cunning crown]

no viper

[shell hazel]

oh lol no

[cunning crown]

[shell hazel]

13 months no viper

[fickle jetty]

is there any better way to beat this

[shell hazel]

missing: viper, b.milk

[shell hazel]

i'm not cooking any pvp teams today sorry, maybe someone else can help

[quartz vortex]

all good no worries

i was just wondering i switch opponent anywyas

[shell hazel]

I will probably do a bunch of ordinary pulls on the next anni, I don't really need anyone (even viper tbh) and if I can skip some normal banners I can bulk collect dupes/missing units

even if i had viper now I couldn't partially treasure I lack doll mats and need to finish my Anchor for snek 🐍

[cunning crown]

all roads lead to snek

[shell hazel]

this is my snek goal

1,250,000 cp is what I want minimum if I can, need to cp pad a bit on mast some more, finish anchor doll, and complete SW build some

so I won't tackle before 501 anyway but that alone won't get me to the cp I'd want

using the magic of blabla I can tell what cp I would have at 501 so I know I need more, I am unsure how much I get for anchor SR-5 to SR-15 boost

HelmT - 275,428
Rapi - 258,145
Mast - 221,734
Anchor - 225,859
Snow White - 225,060
Total - 1,206,226```

[tropic summit]

1) kill blanc and indom yourself

• scarlet vestiTU laplaceT blanc jackal

2) kill their 2 main attackers via rosanna, then simply outstall the misindom target

• noah biscuit helmt ros centi

3) slower indom

• midhara blanc rumani biscuit flex (3RL or 4RL is enough)

4) facetank it, needs heavily invested moran

• moran noah trina biscuit helmT

[glad meteor]

Just use indom + dps

Jackal dps blanc centi helmt

Scalter is fine

Assuming you’re scalter has lowest hp in link

[tropic summit]

seems like a 3RL, sbs and helmt are likely linked, means you can feed p1

run 3RL noah with any DPS or instant nuker / indom

e.g.

3RL wipe behind shield

• noah biscuit lib rh jackal

2.5RL wipe + indom

• vestiTU blanc rh centi jackal

[quartz vortex]

i hope they drop me some more rl dolls ill have to start gearing them up

[fickle jetty]

thanks
I always don't know how to change the order

[tropic summit]

it's a 3RL team, you can pad it out, just ensure you've a 3RL noah and a DPS B3 that does not get stuck on p1

they don't have taunt so you can use a sniper, on attack they shoot from p5 to p4 to p3... etc

means you can skip nayuta even with alice B3

[quartz vortex]

i see now ill try that on them next time

[winter kraken]

should i use indom SW or Vesti to beat a helmT noise jackal vestiTU noah

[glad meteor]

Technically sw better since vesti is ele weak to sw

but noah is ele weak to vesti, regardless. Either should work

Once you have indom you’ve won, the hard part is creating the setup to survive till you indom

[winter kraken]

ty

[quartz vortex]

btw do people usually burst with swha or its too slow?

[pale knoll]

To wait out for noah invul to wear off

[glad meteor]

You’re pretty much forced to use noah or indom sw

If bursting with her

[hollow lagoon]

tenshi is just a less crazy version of me at this point

[umbral belfry]

@wild hemlock if I lose tomorrow I'm taking your scar crit and cs

[hollow lagoon]

shiet

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-diesel-brick-gif-8904973372501827928

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

time to strangle me 2 slots out if they cant do it

[runic spear]

can I shove SWHA in any of these teams?

[hollow lagoon]

u can literal shove her in any of the team yes

replace pepper

or replace laplce

[tropic summit]

nayuta centi swha helmt RH

[hollow lagoon]

or replace lib/rumani

[hollow lagoon]

chance rh get wind sniped by stronk lib possible?

[runic spear]

in that order? or?

[tropic summit]

no such thing, although you can always nayuta centi swha rh helmt for all it matters

[tropic summit]

ye in that order, your weaklink is pepper in there, rest is fine

[hollow lagoon]

just dont like the only b1 being in a spot that cna be targeted

personal thing

[tropic summit]

on 2RL, good luck killing p5 with snipers only

[hollow lagoon]

could happen one day

[tropic summit]

dunno what mushrooms you takin' but they're strong

[placid bloom]

Lib SWHA Helm Dolla RH

snipe p5

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

Beleieve in ein

[hollow lagoon]

it would prob work if i tried

[tropic summit]

on 30% deficit sure will

[hollow lagoon]

i could try to force a 55%

@tropic summit but they could be using thous teams for attack and rh could die to defending sg

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-princess-bean-disenchantment-dancing-cute-gif-20483982

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

yep but hey at least some more interesting cooks than usual, I respect it

[shell hazel]

how much did notice did you give? 😄

[hollow lagoon]

i posted this like

monday?

[shell hazel]

so a week then

[hollow lagoon]

cept i made it from 21 to 22 yesterday

[shell hazel]

the old switcheroo

[hollow lagoon]

one day ill make the union good nuff for hippo

[shell hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041250010454556744/1435302424041488616/1386056448949096488.webp

[hollow lagoon]

its just a long time away

i dont even want rail anymore

that one's too hard

[fathom rock]

Idk what to do anymoar

How did we get here @umbral belfry @clear folio

[placid bloom]

obviously someone need to add star to frame

so vote for the starless

[clear folio]

i lose 5-0 trust

[fathom rock]

Be for real

[wild hemlock]

@valid inlet I think I would have beaten the first cn guy you lost to but pretty sure I would have lost vs the final cn guy anyways. Next CA we win surely

[haughty mortar]

Apparently Quantum cube is a waste of time?

[tropic summit]

where did you read this BS

promoting a team effortlessly with just 2 quantum cubes is far from waste of time

[haughty mortar]

Of course I shall respectfully disregard this advise. Just wanted cube upgrade direction. I was thinking something like this, where I get all these cubes to 7 first

[pure moss]

Om, at least level 7 please

[umbral belfry]

I'm on tv

[pure moss]

[umbral belfry]

😭

[umbral belfry]

don't vote for me that's how I lose

[pure moss]

Finished building swolwhite for next ca. Idk which team to shove her in tho

[shell hazel]

the snow white team

[pure moss]

Please elaborate

[tropic summit]

where's the other 2

[shell hazel]

we need more alts

[tropic summit]

jackal SWHA flex blanc flex
noise noah SWHA flex flex
noise jackal SWHA bay flex
moran noah SWHA flex flex
nayuta flex SWHA flex flex

[pure moss]

Not sure if she's a good replacement for anyone in my comps tho

Maybe I'll replace sg team?

[umbral belfry]

sw indom is free slow cindy food

[valid inlet]

I’m like the reversed i don’t get the chance to meet our cn lord every time when I’m better positioned

Good luck next season

[umbral belfry]

that's why i just use sw as battery (for ca)

[glad meteor]

Hope they run nayuta Cindy

[umbral belfry]

then sw indom wins

[pure moss]

Right, I already have 3 2RL, sg, and slow cindy

[valid inlet]

Is it true? Even for 2RL indom sw? Mine didn’t meet one inCA but was able to win with my tests in Rookie with Eon

[tropic summit]

if SWHA doesn't 1hitko, cindy gets invulnerable

or you can still die to ol plain midhara DoT

[pure moss]

I'm just watching yall cook without a single understanding

[placid bloom]

if there's 3 defender only 2 get Biscuit invin so depends which of the 3 dies I would assume Blanc and Rumani usually get invin first and then Cinderella dies

so your entire team has to burn down to DoT

they won't wipe otherwise

[valid inlet]

Look back again I think it was p5 Rumani gets invuln plus Mihara miss

So Cindy died before b3

[placid bloom]

you are getting 10s of Blanc heal to mitigate the DoT a bit too

so they have to burn longer

and I think Blanc has post-burst heal?

I don't remember

[valid inlet]

Yes I think so

[placid bloom]

without Cinderella B3 it's probably hard for DoT by itself to lethal

[arctic jewel]

I keep seeing Moran/Noah/Liberalio/Red Hood/HelmT teams, what does this team do?

[placid bloom]

Idk, is that setup 2RL

[shell hazel]

2.5 I think

[placid bloom]

Idk why but eyeballing it I feel like no

[shell hazel]

it's 2.5 with some CS on helm or noah or w/e

[placid bloom]

I don't think that team has good matchup spread, only good at killing Cinderella

[shell hazel]

it should beat scar 2RL as well I think, because moran and noah would be in time?

[tropic summit]

depends on the setup, blanc alone doesn't keep you alive, this has been tested

[valid inlet]

Lib 18cs% and Noah RH with some cs% can be 2RL i think

[shell hazel]

no I don't think so

[pure moss]

Why not just

[shell hazel]

most units don't really speed up below 2RL with CS except emi and vesti a bit

[pure moss]

No one need cs btw

[tropic summit]

can win SG
wins non soda scarlet, may RNG loss soda scarlet
can win slow cindy
can win against bayT (bypass)
can win against non DPS B3 stalls (dual rotation)
will lose to indom

[shell hazel]

you're not 2.5 if you have no CS

you need CS on someone, noah, lib, or helmt

[pure moss]

I'm talking about this

[shell hazel]

you get to 2RL but then you lose to the 2.5RL version of the same team

[tropic summit]

that's single rotation lib

[umbral belfry]

cindy bursting = sw is doomed

[arctic jewel]

I didn't check the rest of teams, but this is CA, so maybe Maiden is used somewhere else? I've seen approx 5 people using this team

[shell hazel]

it's a popular team the lib moran noah one

[umbral belfry]

and then her indom expires first

[umbral belfry]

moan

[shell hazel]

you didn't see nothin'

[tropic summit]

lib moan noah

[pure moss]

I ran that comp for this CA

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/kyoshi-gif-25351466

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-anime-kyoto-animation-kotatsu-cat-gif-16543889

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-got-away-escape-custodie-gif-14612886

[pure moss]

Damn, I didn't build Soda

[shell hazel]

I'm considering if I want to run scar-less to enable some trina/moan shenanigans, but I can't see it working that well

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-get-over-here-come-to-me-gif-20449294

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon look what you've done, he now smokes your same mushrooms

[pure moss]

[valid inlet]

Seems right so p5 Cindy is better in this case then, the one I tested was p5 Rumani. But p5 Cindy is better in general tho

[shell hazel]

[pure moss]

Time to bring back siren scar

[haughty mortar]

It went away?

[pure moss]

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

only 8 days left on fav item season box - still no news on new fav items :9

[placid bloom]

1 week before end

is usually announce time

[arctic jewel]

One last question, what's Red Hood's role here? Just to make sure you're able to burst if Moran or Noah gets stunned?

[arctic jewel]

Funny, I was just thinking about this

[shell hazel]

red hood allows 2nd burst cycle all on her own

[arctic jewel]

Aah, hence dual rotation

That's what it means right?

Wish I had Emilia...

[pure moss]

Swolwhite is literally her replacement without much investment

Ye idk where to use laplace and maiden anymore

[hollow lagoon]

Anyway

@umbral belfry why 0rock today

[arctic jewel]

I read this as Smolwhite first xD

Anyway, it's just to have more options, but good to know regardless

[shell hazel]

wonder which dolls I'll get today

[pure moss]

I didn't use swolwhite for this CA

[arctic jewel]

Oh look! Avicii is still alive

[shell hazel]

smg and sr not the most useful, still maybe I'll need em some day

[arctic jewel]

Sorry, bad joke

Anyway, thanks for the answers, appreciated

[umbral belfry]

good

[shell hazel]

will save these for now converted excess, see what new treasures look like

[spiral quail]

Need help for Arena teams...

[zenith scarab]

In theory what are the best teams for rookie and special arena?

[spiral quail]

Okay so who's willing to let me invade their dm's so that I can get some pvp advice?

I also offer virtual cookies

[hollow lagoon]

[fast nest]

[shell hazel]

[dim escarp]

he switched comp had to go slower blanc

(cind still here for cp)

[upper gorge]

Post your full box, in order of power, that's when someone can start helping you (or blabla)

[shell hazel]

lmao

[dim escarp]

[upper gorge]

SU stands for scamming u

[hollow lagoon]

Oh look he has rocks

[dim escarp]

back to rookie spot

[shell hazel]

barely lol I had 9 rocks

I wasted 3 getting hit rate again, another 3 for crit damage, it will do for now

[hollow lagoon]

Had 0 yesterday

Now 9

Holy crap

[shell hazel]

no I didn't have 0 yesterday I had like 7 or 8

I got 2 today

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

these full burst days may as well be normal ones feels like my luck just halves to make up for the extra tries

[hollow lagoon]

I can only roll line 2 for sw

Well and I can roll line 3 crit dmg off for stuff but line 3 yikes

[shell hazel]

my next job is this

cs to atk, will prob just perm lock the ammo as it's phase 14

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

I don't have many locks either

[hollow lagoon]

Why are ur rolls always luckier and ur rocks come non Stop

[shell hazel]

bro this is very mid for the number of rocks I've spent so far 😛

[hollow lagoon]

Where’s the rock hax

[shell hazel]

I have like 40% ele SW after more than 100 rocks

[hollow lagoon]

Well I spent close to 100 on my sw now still no crit rate

Ele is a myth

Do I just play a charge dmg sw? Is this what universe demands me to do?

[shell hazel]

it is!

[hollow lagoon]

Man tf can I do with the 1 rock

Copium 1 OL soline?

[shell hazel]

give it to me then I'll have 2 rocks

[hollow lagoon]

No u

[glad meteor]

You both give it to me. Then I have 3

[hollow lagoon]

Shiet I don’t even have gear exp to level gear

[glad meteor]

Then maybe I can reset attributes on snow and get a black ele line

[shell hazel]

I copium OL soline 1 rock, will need to do the same tomorrow

actually came out OK considering what I usually get

actually no only half OK lol charge damage and ammo

cp pad with the charge damage, ammo at least handy

[hollow lagoon]

I’m not gonna ol soline

No gear exp

[spiral quail]

Me no understand how

[hollow lagoon]

I OLed Tove for caster damage copium is cope

[shell hazel]

I don't think it's bad value to OL +0 and throw a rock on

in fact a lot of the time it's the best use of a single rock I reckon

[hollow lagoon]

My ol less liter will prob stay ol less

[shell hazel]

I'll throw one more OL on soline probably and then I'll add more to anchor for cp

[hollow lagoon]

As for soline next raid project

[glad meteor]

4 ele soline for water raid

[shell hazel]

nah all I got so far was 1 ammo

not gonna happen

[hollow lagoon]

Dis Tove tho

That ammo

[fleet peak]

Noah / HelmT / SW / Biscuit / Jackal in rookie arena. I feel like I'm missing something obvious on beating this thing. No CP diff, and I've got meta units mostly built, but still learning team comps.

[swift mango]

Let's gooooo 🤺 ⚔️ 🤺

[shell hazel]

that beats my xlud

[hollow lagoon]

My Xlud ammo is so bad

[shell hazel]

I think this is the worst basic OL I've ever had

[shell hazel]

all I have is charge damage and def

both totally useless 😄

[swift mango]

Yeah, period. But you still luckier than me with SW in the end.

[hollow lagoon]

It’s still a 30 rock Xlud

[shell hazel]

that's pretty good tbh

[shell hazel]

could be better? yep but not bad for just 30

[hollow lagoon]

Nah roll hit rate into crit or ammo and it’s done

[hollow lagoon]

4atk Xlud on 3 ele is one of my best characters

[hollow lagoon]

Phantom

[spiral quail]

Who even is clip rl?

[shell hazel]

snake prep soon anyway and see what new treasures are like. I saw some whale even beat gluttony before 521 so getting into chapter 40 is possible.

[tight finch]

In sw vs sw indom are both SW hitting burst at same time despite timeline due to SW fixed charge rate by chance 🤔 atk should burst after but defence still wins

[shell hazel]

I think 38 is gluttony?

whale chan in chapter 40 at 511 sync

[swift mango]

Darn I got to final with my random in-10-minutes cook+test+editing.
My SG team investment paid off I guess.

[shell hazel]

so hopefully I can beat snek at 501 and then the 38 boss at 521

[swift mango]

That's some pretty big words. I guess you could if you had the investment.

[livid fossil]

Do we have a guide for pvp teams?

[shell hazel]

I think it's possible. working towards snek clear goal

anchor doll will add another 10K cp maybe? unsure how much doll adds

[spiral quail]

Can someone help me make pvp teams real quick?

[swift mango]

You don't have the core.

[spiral quail]

Like I know there are premade teams but my girls are all weak

[swift mango]

Wait you do

[shell hazel]

I can cp pad mast, can boost OL some as well

[spiral quail]

I primarily built them for boss fight and such

[shell hazel]

my mast is low cp due to ol

I don't have the CP now no, but I may do by 501

[hollow lagoon]

gluttony ez

[swift mango]

My 100+ rock to fail CP padding Crown.

[shell hazel]

I think SW made gluttony a bit easier

[hollow lagoon]

my crown could use pad

[shell hazel]

mine is decent enough pad on crown I won't touch it anymore

[hollow lagoon]

but i wanna pad helm more

[shell hazel]

your crown has a gear score of 94 zanta that's fairly good

[hollow lagoon]

cuz waifu

[shell hazel]

120 is about the highest either of us have

[hollow lagoon]

u never did give me my table

[shell hazel]

1 level per phase on ol

I did lol!

[hollow lagoon]

u give me one where i had a full ol A2 yes

[shell hazel]

no I re-did and re-sent yesterday as well

[haughty mortar]

Upgraded 3 chicks with SR dolls! Finally decided to crack those Doll selector boxes

[shell hazel]

this one should be corrected

[hollow lagoon]

man i glazed the fish waifu

[swift mango]

probably

[hollow lagoon]

my cindy could use more glazing

[shell hazel]

I may have sorted it by gear score

[swift mango]

what's this gear score?

[shell hazel]

sum of phase values

default OL roll is always phase 11, it can be on lines 1-3, so your initial gear score will be 11, 22, or 33

re-rolling will result in new phase values, so this is just a measure of how much cp padding a unit has from phase lines

[swift mango]

My Crown should be 80ish, need to boost it to 100 then.

[hollow lagoon]

my crown is 94

[shell hazel]

yeah I mean you can work it out but my sheet does it for me

[hollow lagoon]

that 122 siren is thicc tho

hitting 122 on cindy will be rough

[opal steppe]

Before attaching, will this teams work, or should I replace then?

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

my highest isn't that high but my crown has 103

[hollow lagoon]

true pvp

[livid fossil]

bad?

[shell hazel]

theoretical max is 180 :9

12 black lines, easy

[hollow lagoon]

my vesti is 91

[wind kelp]

Welp, got 3 gems, dorondipity went from having charge speed to having hit rate. It's....atleast better i guess

[hollow lagoon]

my dorothy and anis are very low but that's cuz i'm scared of rolling ammo

[swift mango]

No very good chance to win. 3 is a lose. 1 you need enough CS so Noah not stun. 2 you probably would be one shot by Rosa.
But may still win 1+2 nevertheless.

[spiral quail]

I give up, SP arean is not that good anyway it gives nothing

[wind kelp]

Just gems, top 10 gives maybe 2-3 pulls more every 2 weeks. Which is 40-60 gems per day more than low effort pvp with 2k gems. It's definetaly not for the reward oriented.

[haughty mortar]

So much cope has never been spoken. I guess no gems 4 u

[haughty mortar]

Top 3 get a 10 pull

[wind kelp]

And top 10 an 8 pull. Top 30 almost 7.

[placid bloom]

depends, if you are desperate for extra 2-4 pull every month

[spiral quail]

There are gems?

Why isn't anyone helping me then, gee

[placid bloom]

you can also just sit in diamond 1 for less effort

[swift mango]

Enough that they spent 10000 to gem their opponents.

[wind kelp]

Like i said; pvp is not for the rewards 😄 (space image: never has been)

[wind kelp]

To answer that; from around 120 or so in ranking, starts to give gems every 2 weeks.

[swift mango]

Depending on if your bracket is sweaty enough if you had zero effort you sit in Diamond 3-5

[wind kelp]

Some of us sit in #3 with zero effort as well 😄

[placid bloom]

well I think outside of SEA PvP is casual

and day 1 account bracket

day 1 bracket is cursed

[swift mango]

It's all depend
Effort to maid and effort to credit cash are also effort.

[placid bloom]

you can buy the account of everyone in your bracket, then you never get attacked

[wind kelp]

Free to play(enough) hits different, i earneded it! 😄

[shell hazel]

mostly it's a pretty thankless task and not many have the desire to do it for other people

it's not like you just need the best 5 campaign team and it's easy to do

[haughty mortar]

What's the logic behind creating defense teams?

[spiral quail]

I made an offer, but you know what screw that.

Makes sense, off we go

[haughty mortar]

Enred-sensei can you give me a rundown?

[shell hazel]

most of the MA are in team building channel which is much easier, they don't really have any pvp MA that covers this channel

[placid bloom]

logic is that you make a defense and pray your opponent is idiot

[spiral quail]

[placid bloom]

if they are not idiot you lose

[haughty mortar]

Rail and you should be PVP MA

[swift mango]

Arena these days is basically either you invest enough so you could play CA or give up.

[shell hazel]

I don't think imaginary cookies are that tempting lol

[wind kelp]

Also i mostly learned by scrolling this channel, testing things out, copying others, asking stuff like "is jackal the good with helm?", and spending ungodly amounts of time 😄

[placid bloom]

well it is not that hard to understand PvP if you just read the burst gen guide and learn a few matchups

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-duckling-no-no-way-i-dont-agree-gif-4243311

[haughty mortar]

💔

[placid bloom]

there is not that much to learn

after that is your own experimentation

[haughty mortar]

I mean offense is different approach than defense

[shell hazel]

if you don't get an answer now just ask again another time, maybe someone will be willing to spend the time to help you later

[swift mango]

Or just copy other experiments

[haughty mortar]

Alright

[spiral quail]

That's my way of baiting someone into making a free art comm for them

[placid bloom]

if new char comes out and you know PvP basics you can be first one to experiment

otherwise you always have to wait for other people to do experiment first

[spiral quail]

I know my way around pen and paper

[wind kelp]

Also helps if you just drop your nikke-box in the channel and go "Any good combos here for rookie/spa/league?"

[swift mango]

but you probably don't anymore.

[shell hazel]

you would at the least need to post your nikkes yes, no one could do much without them anyway

[placid bloom]

me wait for other people to experiment and then copy, save effort

but I copy faster than other people in my bracket because I lurk here and they don't

[shell hazel]

no one running SW in my rookie it's nuts

[placid bloom]

me first one to SR15 SWHA in my bracket

[shell hazel]

they're all so slow and some have OK cp/not that far behind me in sync

I'm 1.1M cp I have people here at like 900-1M

[placid bloom]

the other still weak

[swift mango]

I didn't even need to use SW because my bracket is full of level bricked now.

[wind kelp]

In my rookie i ran a 1-2 burst poli/bay/jackal/trina/rapunzel team and it kept for a while too, rookie is wild 😄

[placid bloom]

I am the brick one in my bracket, still no Noah

[swift mango]

is she in your wishlist?

[placid bloom]

yes

all the pilgrim in my wishlist are at least 1 star or higher\

[swift mango]

for how long?

[hollow lagoon]

55bucks and have her now

[placid bloom]

since pilgrim wishlist came out

no

[swift mango]

keep coping then. Or spend 40$.

[placid bloom]

me no spend money on gacha game

at least not this late into the game lifespan

if Nikke 2 come out I will think about it

[swift mango]

believe that one day she will be in shop, just like me believe in Rapu

[shell hazel]

you'll get it and she'll show up in your next pulls 😄

[placid bloom]

I mean I spent like 100 pull on Vesti banner, didn't get even 1 copy then. Now I already have her at LB2 off wishlist

spend on banner is never the way, just be patient

no more greed for speed

[haughty mortar]

Thanks for the reminder to update my box SS! If there is anyone who can cook me defense team or just point out certain good combos much appreciated!

I think I am currently using some staple teams but am always looking for improvement. Working on that Vesti doll atm.

NoahxBiscuit always a duo. Jackal SBS Blanc also a good trio right?

[tight finch]

sw prob better with blanc, biscuit can kinda go wherever you need her

[haughty mortar]

I know Biscuit helps the Jack a lot

[swift mango]

Build you Vesti and maybe Rosa

[haughty mortar]

Summer or Reg?

[swift mango]

Reg

[haughty mortar]

I had to ask!

[zenith scarab]

Here is my box in order of power, can I get some help building teams for rookie and special arena teams?

[swift mango]

Scarlet team could use 2 quantum if you had 5 slots.

[random field]

any suggestions on what team(s) to run?

my current team for arena is jackal sbs nayuta siren anis but idk if i can run smth better than that or not

[swift mango]

We have gone a long way huh,?
Even Emi bricked, LapT bricked account could go 3*2rl now

Basically no arena investment needed for the speed anymore

[haughty mortar]

Next stop is quantum cube after resilience for sure

What's the optimal amount of slots for that cube?

[swift mango]

Just get it to level 7-8

[haughty mortar]

That was my goal. It's at 5 rn

[swift mango]

Remove the one on Jackal then.

[haughty mortar]

Don't me!

You're hilarious

I have Rosanna at 4/4/4. I can get her to 4/7/4. Should I?

How fast is my team rn?

[shell hazel]

if it's over 88 mph you may travel back in time

[haughty mortar]

[eager brook]

What are shotgun teams good and bad against?

[misty finch]

How does biscuit imdom work with jackal linked units

Eg would the linked units also stop taking damage when jackal becomes invincible

[haughty mortar]

Why is it always Scar up front in that config?

[gaunt pulsar]

they will as long as enemy shoots at jackal, units innately not gonna get immune of their own

[misty finch]

So as long as jackal is the one getting hit the others also don’t take damage?

[gaunt pulsar]

yes

not gonna save from aoe or nuke

[misty finch]

Ight

[nimble root]

I was so close to the gold dice frame this time

[umbral belfry]

F

[gaunt pulsar]

on the way to the second one after previous one, not even trying, if only 2nd one existed i guess should've bet on loss instead

[rustic sandal]

Ye that was a good run

[lunar pawn]

should win, right?

[gaunt pulsar]

probably no, unless their swha is total trash

[lunar pawn]

she outdamages thelm heal?

[shell hazel]

this is the same kind of match we had the other day

just send/record it, you won't know if it wins otherwise

turn off quick battle and watch what goes down

[lunar pawn]

moran should easily outlive I think, just unsure whether thelm can outlive SW burst

[tribal hollow]

So yesterday I learned that Noah can taunt Rosanna burst, and I've been trying to think of a way around this. I came to the conclusion of replacing Liberalio with Mana and just facetanking through with revives, even bringing Drake in to feed his team to 2RL speed so that my Rapunzel doesn't burst before his Rosanna. Reasonable or am I burning down the kitchen here?

[shell hazel]

your whole team except moran may die, but just gotta full send it and see

[tribal hollow]

I'd argue turning on quick battle so you can watch as many times as you want actually 🤓

[lunar pawn]

what other team do you suggest

[shell hazel]

fairly sure you can only watch it once but could be wrong

[lunar pawn]

only once afair

[shell hazel]

it's rookie just try it lol

nothing to lose, if it wins then no need to cook anything

[shell hazel]

rosanna is usually not somewhere you can taunt her opponent is just being dumb

[tribal hollow]

Nah, I'm always spamming replay after quick battles. If you want to be safe, just turn it off. But turn it on for a useless fight and I know for sure you can view as many times as you like

[shell hazel]

their noah taunts your noah, which means your noah splashes p1 - p3 and therefore taunts rosanna

[lunar pawn]

ok I got wiped pretty bad

[shell hazel]

thought it might be the case but we need to science it

[lunar pawn]

indeed

[gaunt pulsar]

pretty sure his noah taunt's your noah and forces it to shoot at p2 which causes you to taunt rosa, so just move* noah 1 to the right, oh hippo already said that

[shell hazel]

did you rec?

[lunar pawn]

funny how moran can outheal tvesti but not SWHA

yea but pointless to share, moran died halfway through FB

[shell hazel]

whale down (tribe 730)

[shell hazel]

I think her burst potential is just higher

you probably just want a slower indom then

[lunar pawn]

yea

[shell hazel]

was blanc linked did you see? if not then rapi indom probably wins

[lunar pawn]

lemme check the vid

[shell hazel]

mind you vesti insta nuke is scarier than sw one

so it shouldn't really matter

vesti frontloads more damage

[lunar pawn]

SWHA and noah linked

[swift mango]

Use Rosa to one shot se

[lunar pawn]

thinking this

[tribal hollow]

Yep, it's exactly what happens, which ironically is what's screwing me over because then I can't burst lmao. And damn it, why didn't I think of the simple solution...

[shell hazel]

thing is that even if you move Noah

[swift mango]

Since it's 2rl sw Indom you could use 3rl Indom to beat SW yeaj

[shell hazel]

your noah taunts their noah, which taunts your noah? 😄

[lunar pawn]

isn't 3rl pushing it?

[shell hazel]

sw burst is very slow

[swift mango]

It's same thing

[shell hazel]

on burst activation

[lunar pawn]

fair enough

[shell hazel]

if blanc is biscuit protected you don't have too much to worry about early in the fight I think

bear in mind indom without jackal is

you can't control who gets the indom easily without jackal

maybe you could give up helmT and aim for 2.5RL with jackal link and biscuit

[tribal hollow]

This is... quite an interesting point...

[shell hazel]

your issue to some degree is you should run noise with noah so you can get noise taunt priority

[swift mango]

It's very easy when you attacking.

[shell hazel]

send the team you'd run blood doppel can try it then

[swift mango]

His team also can win.

[lunar pawn]

[swift mango]

Vesti needs enough ammo or she reload at the end.

[lunar pawn]

she has 2 ammo lines and bastion

[shell hazel]

sw prob a better indom here over vesti

[tribal hollow]

I'm learning something new every damn day. A good thing of course, but wow

[swift mango]

If you have 17 ammo then add bastion you should win

[lunar pawn]

will send

[shell hazel]

noise needs less cs than noah

so if noah has say 10% CS you'd want noise on 5% or less

noah 15%? noise 10% etc

[swift mango]

Noah 15, noise 14 or below is fine

[shell hazel]

along those lines yeah but it's thresholds isn't it?

it's a threshold lower you usually want

[tribal hollow]

Right, that part at least makes sense with what I do know about PvP lmao

[lunar pawn]

yea won, vesti had 2 shots left, won with 1 shot left lol (17 total)

[gaunt pulsar]

bastion her

[lunar pawn]

did

[swift mango]

Without knowing their actual charge speed, 4% lower is safe.

Ofc that's after rounding... Before rounding you may need 8% to be sure

[lunar pawn]

should work?

[swift mango]

Sure

[white compass]

How do I pvp sp arena? With new Snow? Im stuck trying to lvl both her and Vesti dolls. Both still blue. OLs on Vesti weak too

Only characters I don't have are bMilk, new Delta and xMica

[swift mango]

I lost bro. Fake alarm lol. Aha finally got his revenge.

You also lost.

Wtf lol

I got tricked by you.

Had to cheer for Aha.

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-chosen-one-you-were-the-chosen-one-gif-7521423

[shell hazel]

it's up to Hime now to win for us

[swift mango]

Soda got killed lol

She is so last gen now.

[hollow lagoon]

Tell that to soda abuser @shell hazel

[shell hazel]

god mine hardly done anything lol

[hollow lagoon]

It broke my heart

[shell hazel]

I mainly built her a bit so I could mess about in certain other pvp modes with her,

[swift mango]

And Nero burst just doesn't work. If I bursted with Bay I would have won.

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

12 rocks for this

[shell hazel]

rolling 2nd line is evil

[hollow lagoon]

me here rolls line 3 some times

just have to trust

[shell hazel]

no wonder you have no rocks 😄

[swift mango]

What about me

Finally after another 3 rocks

Another 6 rocks to reroll attribute

[shell hazel]

what stat would you have settled on for line 2?

[swift mango]

Crit AtK Ammo.

[shell hazel]

so 3 options, means it's less maldy than one specific one

think there are 10 stats in total? assuming line 1 and 3 have two lines you want, this reduces potential lines you can get down to 8

so 3 in 8 with a 50% chance of appearing at all

3 in 16 chance of getting a line from those 3 basically

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

so average luck about 5 or 6 rolls

it wouldn't kill them to put some level 3 skill/burst mats into the event stores like we get for 1 and 2

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/point-gif-2450101530054484962

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cookie-monster-waiting-sneak-out-peek-cute-gif-3602373142342481824

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

3rd line coming soon

[shell hazel]

Rosy did you get those levels I sent you?

[umbral crown]

No yet

[shell hazel]

aight they said on the way should be with you soon

[umbral crown]

By fedex

[swift mango]

Costed me everything but I finally got SW sr15.

[shell hazel]

she picked it up from me

[swift mango]

Used about 30 rocks today for this.

[shell hazel]

rolling that CS off next

I mean for now even anything is better than a useless CS stat line

I need more ele I'm OK even with 60% ish

[swift mango]

CS is nice on the off chance Rosa dispel you. Better than DEF and hit rate. Maybe Charge Dmg as well

[crystal flicker]

I have like 3 Crit and 4 ATK for her

[shell hazel]

mainly building mine for pve

if she's good in pvp too also a bonus

[rugged wyvern]

Any tips on sp defense?

[rugged wyvern]

Soda cp too low or I would put her in instead of siren

[swift mango]

You may think that but I once rolled 100+ rocks without hitting 3/8

[shell hazel]

the nature of rng at least if I fail a bunch of times I try to make it on line 1 so I don't have 2 layers of rng

line even showing up +being the right thing

[swift mango]

I spent like 30 rocks for that 1 Ele slot 1 alone. Waiting for a line 2 to show up before locking?.

That one shit head piece costed me like 80 rocks.

I'm not gonna minmaxing SW or she gonna be another 400 rocks nikke.

[shell hazel]

I'll try a bit but tbh my rapi still not even done and that was a year ago lmao

[swift mango]

None of my units is done.

Except maybe soda

[shell hazel]

my closest prob cindy

45% atk 80% ele, she took a lot of rocks

oh and maybe vesti for pvp focus her rolls aren't bad

[swift mango]

I wish

My closest is scarlet after 400 rocks

[shell hazel]

I think she'll get crept out of CA at some point

everyone will be running 2RL and preventing scar from killing much

[swift mango]

She always has the tech slot 1. Soda or Rapu for now.

When they make units more tanky and 2rl x5 teams maybe she would be phase out.

That's if no good slot 1 tech is released to use.

[shell hazel]

don't think I tried running rapu scar version yet, probably because my rapu was with nero team

[tropic summit]

T1
cindy 3RL is weak and abusable, also blanc in p1 is stunnable, T1 needs to be fixed

T2
3 of the best batteries in the same team? this team is also likely getting skipped, as it's overcommited

T3
siren in p3 is far less threatening than siren p2, they just need noah to not be p1, this team anyway is also weak to rosanna, indom and antinuke of any kind, change it with siren at least p2 or change it entirely

T1 and T3 are your weak links

[tropic summit]

where banner

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta trina swha rh emilia
• jackal vestiTU blanc biscuit laplaceT
• noise noah lib helmt rapunzel

Notes

• rumani, in synchro, build her up
• build up centi, she's very low CP, can then improve speed on T2
• build up rosanna in the short/medium term
• finish doll on emi, vestiTU and SWHA

[hollow lagoon]

idk about u but line 3 that works comes pertty easily, i have more issue rolling line 2

[swift mango]

Now that I think about it, my Shit Nero team was just in incorrect order. If I had time to use Nikke.top and put it on corrected order I would have won.

So I will probably just keep using this shit Nero team in next CA, just change the order.

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gfl-girls-front-line-dolls-front-line-skill-issue-skillissues-gif-25458964

[noble python]

Hello need some help climbing back up the Challenger ranks got knocked down to Challenger 9

[swift mango]

It's a 10 minutes build+test+edit. Couldn't be helped.

[tropic summit]

ye aint nobody got time for that

[astral turret]

Can I get help with what the recommended OL rolls for SW in PVP is?

[swift mango]

I'm just slow.
Just saw someone eating 3 big bow of noodles as big as his head in 2 minutes. He didn't even chew.

[rustic sandal]

lmao murked. I'm here to claim my Ch1 spot once more!!

[tropic summit]

atk ele, CR CD

[noble python]

This is Challenger 6’s defenses I also finished my Rosanna she’s 4/4 OL gear

[swift mango]

I wished I could be fast enough to eat my dinner in 1 minutes. That would save so much time.

[astral turret]

ty

[noble python]

Real

[rustic sandal]

My bracket is in disarray after I claimed Chal1 yesterday. They probably saw how shit everyone's defense team is and just decided to attack each other.

Tsk. Risky climb.

[rugged wyvern]

Isn't scarlet+jackal weak to Rosa in general? Is there a good way around that?

If top nikkes are Cindy, scarlet, thelm, swalt, lib, any recommendations? (No Emilia / anne)

[tropic summit]

you're on the left

T1 puts to test your rosanna, let's see if you can lethal p2 and p3

[noble python]

Kk

[tropic summit]

T3 give temperance to scarlet, quantum on jackal

T2 hopefully enemy isn't 2.5RL or it could go wrong but you've noise as ensurance in case

give temperance to noise aswell to live through doro and scarlet though

or just sub her for rumani if CP allow then you're 2RL and screw it

needless to say post the matchup first to ensure you meet CP requirements

[tropic summit]

there's no real counter to rosanna unless you've CS% that allow you to hit at least B2 (blanc or noah) in time to prevent her from causing serious damage