pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

10 minutes ban, you're screwed

[dense kindle]

I should be worried?

[tropic summit]

no it was sarcasm, a severe punishment would be 24hrs or days, 10 minutes it's like they telling you to just do it again but with tools that don't get you caught

[dense kindle]

Oh right whoops

Only bad thing is my low clears disappeared so that sucks but I think they’ll come back at some point.

Thankfully support was kind of transparent this time around

[zealous gyro]

any advice for def team?

[ivory violet]

for rookie or sp arena?

[zealous gyro]

sp pls someone helped with rookie already

[tropic summit]

• nayuta lib drake anis liter
• naga vestiTU ein RH rumani
• auto (any leftover high CP unit)

[zealous gyro]

ty @tropic summit

[quick lake]

Focus on PvE

[zealous gyro]

i hit my wall for now

too hard for pve so now make team for pvp :]

[umbral crown]

@tropic summit if you could help this boi would be nice ty

[tropic summit]

post your box so we know what you can run, also show your CP and their CP

[tulip quest]

I Never got banned for right clicking ALICE for once I thank my SKILL ISSUE XD

[dense kindle]

Yeah not a fun time

I don’t think my case was skill either tbh just faulty/conflicting hardware

[valid inlet]

I am torn between Mast/Trio/Soline or Soline/Trio/Emi
@umbral belfry You can build your trio without Emi now honestly

[formal quiver]

I agree himes really missing out

[short plaza]

is Trina better than centi at being a battery? I wanna use Trina as a filler unite before I get scarlet that's why I wanna replace centi

[ivory violet]

Slightly, Trina gives 14.4% burst gen per shot where centi is 13.8

[quick lake]

Is trio that good?

[valid inlet]

I think Soline W will make trio better than before, but I need some more tests next season

[ivory violet]

Personally I'm a fan of flora with trio, it went 3-0 in qualifiers for me last CA

[quick lake]

Hmmm

[valid inlet]

Moran w trio is great, it's just hard to move her out from other teams

[quick lake]

Swap Moran to wSoline ig

I havent seen trio in CA for a while. At least in my bracket or in JP stats

Does this mean I needa build 2 more units

3 including Flora

[ivory violet]

You can get away with just leveling her skill 2 the rest doesn't rly matter unless you're a giga whale and can afford it

[quick lake]

Did anyone do the math for buffs for Trio + Flora?

[opal steppe]

Sorry for the late reply.

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit vestiTU rosanna helmT, vesti is assumed 5%-8%CS

[opal steppe]

Thank you for your help. I will try it.

[tropic summit]

multiply enemy CP for 0.846 before running, if that number is lower than your team CP you'll be fine, else don't bother

[opal steppe]

Thank you for the advise.

[quick lake]

For completion’s sake

Eunhwa

• 30.97% true damage buff
• 8.16% crit rate
• 41.81% charge damage
• 5.11% projectile explosion damage
• 27.87% damage taken

Emma

• 23.51% crit dmg
• 2.32%+3.09% projectile explosion damage
• 31% true damage buff

Flora

• True dmg 30.97% for 5s

[ivory violet]

For a PvE main like me with half baked PvP it's really nice to be able to slap trio + flora into a team

Frees up the teambuilding for other teams

[quick lake]

yeah, slow teams are greattt

[rustic sandal]

These two have been juggling me like a basketball. They're both Rank 1 and 2 respectively and I'm at Rank 3.

[gaunt pulsar]

they both cp gap you, you get penalty

[quick lake]

sr Anis is not encouraged

[gaunt pulsar]

their teams aren't that strong but you also feed them energy via jackal damage share gimmick, using sg and smg together gives them extra energy due to amount of hits they do, essentially making them 2rl while you at 3

for 2nd team you need at least 104k combat power to not get penalty and you probably have better chance against but we need to know what you have

[short plaza]

in light of maiden ice rose rerunning soon I wanna know what she's good for since I've seen her used in quite a few teams

[short plaza]

yeah that's good enough for me

[quick lake]

clipSG level burst gen, doesnt feed, strong single target auto attacks, defender

[short plaza]

that sounds pretty good

[shell hazel]

worth getting a copy imo but with all the other stuff coming out I wouldn't chase dupes now

I got mine to MLB a year ago but I've had a year of use out of her, she'll get crept out eventually prob 😛

[short plaza]

yeah I'm not rich like that I can't afford to MLB anyone

I'll just get her for my electric team and pvp

[shell hazel]

a copy is good anyway

she works really well as main b3 against scarlet/ros/helmt teams because they won't nuke her over other units

due to being a defender, and biscuit can make her immune also ofc

[short plaza]

two of my teams are complete right now I wonder where she'll be

[leaden canyon]

core 7 noah or core 7 jackal first?

[short plaza]

I'd say noah personally

[raven plover]

with silver tick?

[leaden canyon]

yep

[raven plover]

new treasures coming soon might want to hold first

[leaden canyon]

eh everything is at least lb 2 that has the possibility of getting a treasure

[raven plover]

if its really good c7 it

[short plaza]

who are they gonna be?

[leaden canyon]

we dont know

[raven plover]

no clue

[leaden canyon]

but jackal getting a skin a month before it is suspicious

[short plaza]

very sus

[raven plover]

this is it, treasure crow

[short plaza]

[leaden canyon]

Lmao, a treasure cannot fix that dumpster fire

crow needs an alt

[kindred blade]

This makes sense, right? Or is Jackal still better than Helm? My test shaved like 2 seconds off the full burst.

[leaden canyon]

for defense? cindy not needed

just jackal instead of her

[kindred blade]

ok thanks

[raven plover]

cp padding

[kindred blade]

yup

[leaden canyon]

can also just do jackal blanc biscuit vesti helmT

Nayuta on defense is weak because siren is a thing

[kindred blade]

Ok thanks. I'll try that

The CP is not alot tho lol

[leaden canyon]

Depends what your opponents are rocking really.

If they have high cp teams then I guess you have to go with cp padding teams

That team can punch up above its weight though

[rustic sandal]

Ye. I don't have a good defense team anyway... I don't have Jackal or Noah...

[kindred blade]

The top 2 and 3 are around 230-300k

I’m trying to stay at rank 1, but these two have been sniping me ever since I started playing.

[quick lake]

Bready treasure surely

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/maresca-enzomaresca-what-did-he-see-what-did-bro-see-maresca-chelsea-gif-8501744578488908218

[eager brook]

Bigger wallet wins

[kindred blade]

F2P player suffering.

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-22552264

[shell hazel]

@umbral belfry is f2p and she does fine

[tropic summit]

hime is a different kind of f2p, a kind just like yours

[shell hazel]

Hime is way more f2p than me

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

There is f2p and there is f2pbtw

[umbral belfry]

using soline in another way

[umbral belfry]

[quick lake]

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

Dis Hime with my rocks

[umbral belfry]

yes

[shell hazel]

Hime stop!

[swift mango]

Is this all their buffs without bursting? Because with this team they can't burst at all.

[valid inlet]

It's good as long as Soline is getting love

[umbral belfry]

[onyx scaffold]

Pvp sucks

[quick lake]

yes, without bursting. Passive, buffs active the moment battle starts

cant rmb about flora

[ionic rose]

The next CA is in 12 hours! Are You Ready For More Disappointment?!

[noble hatch]

Nope

[hollow lagoon]

my problem with the new nikkes

[swift mango]

It's suck that you can't get Champ.

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-i'd-win-gif-3759542891851895014

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[radiant coral]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-gojo-satoru-satoru-satoru-gojo-gojo-jjk-gif-434013661768018456

[shell hazel]

100% slack!

[noble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-nikke-gif-17691169346739386979

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-walking-long-legs-gif-15271429

[onyx scaffold]

yeah it sucks that i cannot focus on pvp.

i have other goals

modernia solo raid -. -

actually i need siren

nvm it sucks

[shell hazel]

69... nice! @umbral belfry

[onyx scaffold]

that was the only raid that i had every option to play with

[covert lintel]

Moran to manchor

[onyx scaffold]

ik but cp is just too low so i wanna try something else

[shell hazel]

I'm not going to have the new units built at all for the upcoming SR so we'll have to see how far I get, hoping for 3% on general ele neutral

[onyx scaffold]

i will probably build diesel and skip brid

[umbral belfry]

[formal quiver]

how

no gatekeeping

[umbral belfry]

get out of maincord 2d

[shell hazel]

is it another pie?

[umbral belfry]

he used to be a pie i think

but now he just ragebaits me in pie discord

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit your advice helped, but not for long 😔

[shell hazel]

evil!

[shell hazel]

is rookie doesn't matter anyway 😄

[arctic jewel]

True, but this does help to learn about MUs in general, for me at least

[formal quiver]

:( rapu or nero?

[arctic jewel]

Also

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/oscar-isaac-i-want-all-of-it-i-want-suburbicon-gif-9427068

[arctic jewel]

@shell hazel Some of these guys (excluding myself) have spent 1000 gems in Rookie xD

[umbral belfry]

ohhhh BROTHERRRR

im going to work

[shell hazel]

MU? Monster University? 😮

[arctic jewel]

Lmao

Matchups

[shell hazel]

oh

[shell hazel]

can't believe you still call playing with dogs "work"

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-1494050828400441394

[formal quiver]

cant believe i share so much testing and comps with hime and when i ask for a crumb she says oooh BROTHER

im not even her competition!!!!

[covert lintel]

2-3 more levels I'll be crying for credit again

[shell hazel]

thanks AI @umbral belfry

the hime circle of life

[shell hazel]

you as well!?

[umbral crown]

All the time

[shell hazel]

Rosy! don't 🧱

[umbral crown]

still

[shell hazel]

naturally

[umbral crown]

Bracket is ded anyway, nothin to worry about

[shell hazel]

they're not ded - I think you just killed them

[umbral crown]

Uwu the killer

[shell hazel]

I'm mostly chilling also I need to 461 for MC attempts but think I'll need some more levels and rocks to get it done

unsure if can clear then

6 levels to go

[umbral belfry]

LMAO

[tropic summit]

that's how it should be, 1 attempt to learn of your setup and 1 attempt to devise a counter

you gotta keep changing def and hope opponent keeps making mistakes

game is attacker sided, def should never win unless you 💳

[arctic jewel]

😭

[covert lintel]

Level up is the only way

[arctic jewel]

Let me just spend my life savings to win in this vidya gaem

[tropic summit]

yeah, a very important milestone in pvp is realising it isn't worth it past a certain point

do the bare minimun to ensure the highest reward breakpoint you can afford while remaining comfortable

[shell hazel]

|| and then get the 💳 out for the rest ||

[tropic summit]

don't drag them on the path of evil

[shell hazel]

those who tread the path of evil || do so via 💳 ||

[arctic jewel]

A very valuable lesson to be learned in life

[shell hazel]

one I ignore

[arctic jewel]

It's never too late!

[arctic jewel]

It's OK, I'm just too used to being uncontested for at least 3 months

I can't wait to actually start team building in both SP Arena and CA

Still feel like I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel

[onyx scaffold]

so i tried to get top 4 for my alt

it means i need to suffer x2 rng next CA

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-gone-too-far-down-this-road-lord-anthony-bridgerton-jonathan-bailey-bridgerton-the-choice-gif-25717716

[tropic summit]

twice the chances to win at least

[shell hazel]

I don't run alts twice the burnout potential 😄

[tropic summit]

yep

i don't have the strength to go through the whole cycle again on a second account

[shell hazel]

exactly, and the dailies!

i'm content with the 1 account

[tropic summit]

good god

[quick lake]

two surface content

[shell hazel]

I still like the game but it's 1 account life for me, I'd rather play another game in the time I save

[quick lake]

Yeah same

Wouldn’t have been able to maintain a second account

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

@vapid lake

[tribal crest]

Hi, can anyone help me to make "better"/improve teams for SP arena ?

these are what i been using so far, but got more characters now like cindy if i can use her-

[shell hazel]

sync 200

baby bracket 👶

[onyx scaffold]

i never made the 8th squad on alt. rip 20h cd

i cleared it weeks ago tho.

[fair pivot]

Before Soline goes away... did people figure out any pvp use for her?

[keen vapor]

I did not but I'm sure wishlisting her

[mint kite]

What's a good way to attack this in rookie?

[glad meteor]

Noise noah cindy helm rumani?

[mint kite]

I've tried

And it's inconsistent

Even when I win, it's with a sliver of health on Cinder

[glad meteor]

I see

[keen vapor]

I see why, Blanc Indom

[glad meteor]

Does rosa kill helm before Noah trigger?

[mint kite]

I tried this and sometimes Rapunzel is hit by Rosanna, other times Emi is revived just in time to be killed by Scarlet wipe

[keen vapor]

2.5 means your Helm doesn't get nuked by Rosanna?

[mint kite]

Yes

[keen vapor]

Oh

[glad meteor]

Strong cs

[keen vapor]

Rip

[keen vapor]

Have invested Ada?

[mint kite]

10-7-7 with no attack

Just infinite ammo

[keen vapor]

Me too

[mint kite]

Why Rumani over Jackal?

[keen vapor]

Try replacing Cindy with her should also allow to swap Rumani out for Noise

[mint kite]

That just gets her killed by Rosy, doesn't it?

[glad meteor]

I prefer rumani since she a little tankier and has taunt

[keen vapor]

Do you? his Rosanna hyper invested?

[glad meteor]

Noah bisc xmaiden noise helmt should trigger scar s2 less

[mint kite]

Yeah, HelmT just dies

So I expect Ada would as well

[keen vapor]

Helm is in element disadvantage

[mint kite]

Oh.

When Rapu gets hit, she has a sliver of health remaining

[keen vapor]

So does Emilia

[mint kite]

I guess the hope is that Ada self heals her way through Scarlet?

[lone sequoia]

no vesti?

[ruby iris]

Just why...

[lone sequoia]

"free hits"

some people just use them, other try to send a message to whales

[ruby iris]

It was the same day

[lone sequoia]

sometimes work and they (whales) push more lvls

xd

gem spam last day of the season

[ruby iris]

Yeah lol

[cedar sorrel]

@tropic summit you've already helped me twice with my teams so I'll ping you if u dont mind but I just pulled OG scarlet. She should be a good addition to my team(s) right?

[lone sequoia]

rip ss

[lone sequoia]

good units if you have trina, still need a good amount of resources to use her in the current pvp "meta"

or at least a decent OL if you know how to use her

[vocal kelp]

maybe stupid question but, doll is relevant on arena units?

[ruby iris]

Like, I deserved second place (I can win against anyone besides the rank1 whale and defend them 50/50). I stayed third just cause they literally stay 24/7 on the game (they attack as soon as I take their place) so I couldn't be bothered. They lost the second place and went for my third place and won, then I got the second place, they attacked me and won, I attacked (and took it back) and then the spam began lmao

[marble saddle]

i realized i didnt account for the hp increase their rumani will give so testi might survive.
plus i always screw up my atks at reset since its like 1 am time for me. so instead of risking it ill come back later

[cedar sorrel]

I have trina. Im not super serious in pvp but if a nikke is a clear upgrade Id wanna put em in my teams

[ruby iris]

I don't understand rage attacking in pvp

[lone sequoia]

more stats+cp and damage reduction if you have a SR one, some teams need the extra damage reduction to work, not many in low sync

[vocal kelp]

ok, thanks

[lone sequoia]

remember that units who change weapon lose the burst when they get stun

weapon+effects

[glad meteor]

SP arena is serious business, there’s people willing to go the extra mile. Just pray for easier bracket

[cedar sorrel]

Rookie

• nayuta vestiTU lib trina RH

SP arena

• nayuta naga lib anis rh
• tove trina vestiTU anchorIM liter
• drake pmaid centi sora bsoda

^ these are the teams Railtracer made for me. Where could I add scarlet?

[marble saddle]

prob in trina team but ignore me

[cedar sorrel]

Over liter(??) Idk if u need 2 burst 1s

Altho my liter is obv built cuz campaign so cp is high

[marble saddle]

wouldnt the stun affect nayuta? since anis would be dead cause of vesti

[lone sequoia]

idle game, just play if you have fun, my sp is full of whales around +200 lvls, not as bad as some other day 1 friends that have to fight against +300~400 lvls, still my bracket have people that gem to keep the rank or fix matches/rank to get more points and i only try to make them spend more; if you lose one time just because they spend more in a gacha game is their lose, also if you are a whale, thank you for keeping the game alive

wrong ping xd

[lone sequoia]

the thing above to you

[marble saddle]

you're welcome

[ruby iris]

Wdym?

[marble saddle]

#pvp-arena message

[lone sequoia]

i don't like siren, nayuta or lib in pvp, so i don't know much about them, but i think siren can stun the next unit if she reach 50hits (? all depend if you kill them before that happen

[upper grove]

Is rosanna or moran higher priority to OL in CA?

[lone sequoia]

pvp in general, but rosanna is a expensive unit (S2+burst at 10 and around50%atk OL), moran only if you want her as key or safe in some teams but she only need OL and burst at lv10, 4~7 S1/S2 is fine

[keen vapor]

Good question

[lone sequoia]

rosanna for SG team core or sac+nuke, moran can fill or tank in many comps

[upper grove]

Hmm so Moran cheaper rocks wise

[lone sequoia]

OL? she work with DEF alone just to help her S1, there are optimal lines but you don't need to reach that lvl with her

any random effect that give cp work for sp, but she will need some gear lvls if you plan to invest in pvp, like OL lv3~5

[kindred blade]

Is this team look good? How about the positioning?

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit help plz?

[ruby iris]

Ohh I thought he meant old texts

[ruby iris]

The best part is that I don't even think they are a whale, they just keep logging in every hour (no joke)

[kindred blade]

Rest of the teams btw.

[thick vector]

Finally getting around to building some tank units. Who's the best to start with Bay, Moran, or Rosanna?

[dim escarp]

lol I know this guy

he is in one of our 5 union

[mint kite]

What about Vesti?

[acoustic light]

@placid bloom can u hit me in sp whenver u have the time

[placid bloom]

give me a min

okay you can put your team back now

[rustic sandal]

Oh damn. This team I made actually cooked.

I gotta have to find a way to beat this one.

He's like 1.4K and I'm only 1.2K

Rank 1 vs Rank 2

[eager brook]

Is Alice completely phased out now or is she still usable?

[ruby iris]

Oh lol

Seeing all those tries left me a bit stunned

[dim escarp]

He say he was just trying to figured how to beat you by himself

fair x)

[ruby iris]

Ohhh ok ahaha, then they didn't spend gems

[dim escarp]

still a weird move

he could have wait

[ruby iris]

Yeah just because it was at the end ahaha

[dim escarp]

[vapid lake]

8 times in 1 day = spend gems

[ruby iris]

Maybe they have saved up the oooooold free tickets

I have some left too lmao

[rustic sandal]

Alice still has good burst gen. I tried to fight this one and lost.

It's definitely the Jackal that's my problem.

[gritty ridge]

In pvp or pve

Cuz in pvp she has the worst gen in the game

[glacial haven]

Hello people... Another season to be bothered...

So.... I want to see if I'm thinking properly...

I got these team to battle with.

Maybe on the T1, try to make it a 2RL nuke team trying to outburst his team. T2, keep it that way, because i think it could handle, and the T3, i have a historic beating his team using Rumani-Siren-Cindy-Biscuit-TLaPlace. But it was a long time ago. Besides, here is the image. I just want to confirm if I'm thinking right.

But I'm not so sure if this team would win right now.

[rustic sandal]

How to beat? He's C5. I'm thinking of attacking him before the Maintenance.

[glacial haven]

So, i was thinking going with this...

[glacial haven]

Where is your threshold of usable characters?

[rustic sandal]

Below it.

[umbral belfry]

no kuwon dont do it

[glacial haven]

Do you have blanc, biscuit, noah usable?

[polar valley]

Idk wtf happen to rookie arena, but yeah, must be a bug

[oak hatch]

With quick battle on it should skip the gameplay entirely

[polar valley]

Ik, but the thing is, with quick battle, i won

Without it, i loss

Although fighting againts same person

Idk either this is a bug or whatever it is

Ive done this experiment for 3 days straight, and find it strange

[oak hatch]

Yeah you can lose or win against the same person with the same teams sometimes due to rng

[polar valley]

But it makes no sense i only win if i turn on the quick battle

[oak hatch]

In ur first match their Noah died, in second one their Noah lives so you lost

[polar valley]

If i dont, i totally lose badly

[vapid lake]

Then turn on quick battle forever lah

[quick lake]

In the first battle, Vesti crit and Noah died 1 shot without activiating invuln.

In 2nd battle, besti do not crit, did not one shot and got invuln

[vapid lake]

But yea crit makes a diff

[polar valley]

Idk, to me this makes no sense, ik it does make difference, but only when i turn on/off quick battle

[quick lake]

mostly rng here

[polar valley]

If i turn on, i win streak without losing, if i turn off, i cant even win

As u see the battle records with the same person

If its rng, id would've lost during quick battle as well

But i dont, thats the weird part

[oak hatch]

Rng means u can lose some and win some

[polar valley]

Ik, and it will happen doesnt matter if the quick battle is on or off

But the problem now is, if i on, i never lose

Ive done this 3 days straight

Wasted 5k gems for it

So far with same person, when i quick battle countless times, i dont even lose a single, but without quick battle, id lose

Rng supposed to happen even if i turn on quick battle, i would lose some too, but i dont

I just find it interesting in this 3 days experiment, maybe worth to fix it

[vapid lake]

go report bug

[onyx scaffold]

Can Scar 2RL (with Centi) beat Scar Xmaiden?

[polar valley]

Idk if u are here hawk, u gay for losing to me

Alright, what do i fill up for network, and i cant send the video here (ignore the device)

[lone sequoia]

2RL vs 2RL? the fastest team should win (?

[rustic sandal]

I don't have them in my roster lmao.

[lone sequoia]

about the bug... looks like crit rng against a team on penalty, just dmg/HP range

but i also think quick battle is bug, that is why i never turn that thing on

[rustic sandal]

It's crazy, cuz I actually lost to the Shotgun Team in this screenshot.

Idek how you can counter that. They don't burst but they dealt huge damage.

[polar valley]

I knew it! I knew it there is cockroach in that quick battle

So i was right after all

[lone sequoia]

there were a few common bugs when SU implemented that QoL, like weird target, dmg, replay skip for some reason (when you try to see the replay), different speed (buff-attack animation) and the most important to me, the loading time was slower, it took more time compared to normal battle to send the hit, probably because it load the full fight before you see the result screen, still that setting allow you to hit again in less time compared to normal battle (if you get sniped or attack a new guy)

[polar valley]

How come Nikke Dev misses this common bug

Especially seeing Eunhwa from other nikke POV that SHES NOT EVEN HOLDING THE SNIPER WHEN SHOOTING RAPUTES 😭

For a 20gb game

[lone sequoia]

that was like first week, i never used it again after i lost a snipe because it takes more time to send the hit

[polar valley]

Thats still need a lot to improve over this small details

[hollow lagoon]

Defending sg ate ur bay and u couldn’t b2 proper and died

[covert lintel]

Change noah to mast to make a higher chance

[polar valley]

Which mast

Romantic maid or normal elon musk

[covert lintel]

Electric

[polar valley]

Theres 2 mast

[rustic sandal]

Ye...

[polar valley]

Romantic maid, or normal

[rustic sandal]

Where's Railtracer? They can cook a winning team for me.

[umbral belfry]

he's tracing rails rn give him a sec

[rustic sandal]

Before I get pulled down.

[covert lintel]

Is it time for ca cook?

[hollow lagoon]

I’m no good at making teams when not same sync

[rustic sandal]

1H 17M before maint.

[hollow lagoon]

Which ones are you winning

[polar valley]

Where should i place the elon musk

[glacial haven]

Yes, please

[rustic sandal]

I'm expecting at least 5 more attacks.

[polar valley]

5th? 2nd? 1st?

[rustic sandal]

iirc, only Team 1 won.

[hollow lagoon]

Ok then I just need to get u something to murder team 2

U haz biscuit?

[polar valley]

Exactly same spot of noah?

[glacial haven]

If a good soul can look after me. Pls...

[covert lintel]

Where ever you want
That mast just for crit rate activation, but you need s2 lv10

[hollow lagoon]

@rustic sandal Biscuit u haz?

[polar valley]

Oh, burst is not needed?

[glacial haven]

Nope, he hasn't.

[rustic sandal]

Nah. I literally don't have the good PvP units. I'm blessed to only get dupes in standard pulls instead of new units.

[hollow lagoon]

Ughhhhhhhh

Where’s ur box

[rustic sandal]

I mean sure, getting only dupes means I'll leave 160 wall faster.

I'm literally 4/5 out of 160.

[polar valley]

Damn, even worse

[rustic sandal]

I do wish I get new units, considering that my wishlist has PvP essential units like Noah, Biscuit, Scarlet, and Blanc

[polar valley]

I dont think mast do any better, my guy @covert lintel

At least noah being a decoy make 2-3 people dissappear by make the opponent focus on killing her

[glacial haven]

Did you pulled Ada?

[polar valley]

Yeh

[glacial haven]

How is she?

[polar valley]

Shit

[glacial haven]

Shit

[polar valley]

Yea

Id prefer resident evil more, i didnt expect she is so weak in nikke

[glacial haven]

I was trying to maybe pump up true damage with her.

[polar valley]

Idk, not worth it to me

[glacial haven]

Quite the oposite. She is pretty good

[polar valley]

Plus compared to vesti, she only shot 1 bullet per time

[glacial haven]

Kinda niche, but very good

[polar valley]

Idk what Leon did to ada after that rizz choke, maybe thats the side effect

[eager brook]

I don't think that's valid until you reach high level with a full overloaded team to compare max investment teams vs equally geared teams

[glacial haven]

But she buff true damage. Thing Vesti has

[polar valley]

And imagine that true damage how many times vesti shot it

[raven plover]

if using his team ada is useless cus the buff only comes on full bust

[glacial haven]

Is is something I'm curious about. PvP team using purely true damage

[hollow lagoon]

@rustic sandal check cp for team 2

[glacial haven]

Well... Absolute will buff true damege since the start. Ada buffs comes in when burst enters. The last nit should be a battery of some sort. And Ada kinda acts like one

[ivory violet]

Flora buffs vesti's true dmg before burst

[polar valley]

I think, dorothy being there finally changes the game

[glacial haven]

Flora has more usage in CA. Not much in SP

[vapid lake]

Flora is useful

[onyx scaffold]

U want true dmg team or ada team?

[polar valley]

Phew, finally i can sleep peacefully

[glacial haven]

Its just a experiment. Would be interesting to test it out on rookie.

@hollow lagoon

Did i cook or im getting cooked?

[polar valley]

Let me try it again, to ensure this absolute is actually Jesko Absolut now

[hollow lagoon]

did u check vesti and helm to see which one will get the indom?

[glacial haven]

Vesti gets

[hollow lagoon]

did u check wht rl enemy would be if their vesti have chargespeed?

[hollow lagoon]

send it for science

[rustic sandal]

What about Team 1 and 3?

[hollow lagoon]

didnt ur team 1 win?

[glacial haven]

Not quite. He changed his teams. I was having a 50/50 with that 'mess up' team (Anis-Nayuta-Scarlet-Rosana-Trina)

[polar valley]

Nah fk it, this better

Finally a true Jesko Absolut

[rustic sandal]

I forgor.

[hollow lagoon]

ur 3rl noah team is not gonna block the scarlet cuz they could have quantum to go 2rl

[rustic sandal]

[polar valley]

Yep, it works fine now

[rustic sandal]

🐳

[glacial haven]

Problay yes. But what worries me is the sirens stun

[hollow lagoon]

why bay and noah on same team

in this case u abondon t1 and murder t2 and t3

[rustic sandal]

Now. I gotta hold this position for 51 minutes.

[glacial haven]

I was thinking the same. But im not confident at all.

[rustic sandal]

In that case then... idk.

[glacial haven]

Make it uber charge with batterys plus rosana, trying to snipe scarlet

[rustic sandal]

How can I go band for band against a whale tho?

[glacial haven]

And maybe siren?

[hollow lagoon]

u no has jackal?

[glacial haven]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[glacial haven]

I do. But she is on T2.

[hollow lagoon]

true

[rustic sandal]

I either have to be lucky or spend more. Or both.

[hollow lagoon]

@glacial haven

[glacial haven]

Ok. Might work....

Feeling more confident now

[polar valley]

Yea, u cant beat me now, Hawk tuah, idk if u are here, but u really are a gay now

[hollow lagoon]

[polar valley]

5 win streak no quick battle

[hollow lagoon]

i dont think my bracket will try to hit be before maint

tis the same faces

no new face = they cant win

[polar valley]

The beef between hawk is finally over

[hollow lagoon]

there used to be some one in rookie that farmed me 5x a day

[oak hatch]

Did u farm them back

[hollow lagoon]

oh breh it was pure hatred

i was lower sync then

this was the pre helmT era

i broke this team of his when i reached 250k power

then i reached his sync

[glacial haven]

Freaking Siren....

[hollow lagoon]

ok

was my mistake

p1 siren taunted by your noah

[glacial haven]

No worries.

[hollow lagoon]

what's ur noah's chargespeed

actually what's ur scarlet's ammo

[glacial haven]

Noah... (Lmao none)

[hollow lagoon]

scarlet's ammo?

[hollow lagoon]

rip

have chargespeed on noise?

[glacial haven]

Nope

[hollow lagoon]

what's ur cp situation

[glacial haven]

It's manageable

Even if i force a low cp team, it should be around 800k

Against a ~900k

[hollow lagoon]

try this evil thing

[glacial haven]

Lmao sure thing

[hollow lagoon]

check if ur trina or lib is tankier

[glacial haven]

Probaly lib

T3 (Siren-Scarlet) team right?

[hollow lagoon]

ok send it for science lol

make sure u put tanky cubes on rumani and cinderella

[glacial haven]

Not quantum? At least on rumani?

[hollow lagoon]

nap ruamni cindy tanky cuve

quantum on lib and biscuit

[rustic sandal]

9 minutes left. No attacks yet.

[hollow lagoon]

lets see if the universe likes ur lucky

[glacial haven]

Cindy has bastion rumani resilience

[hollow lagoon]

tanky cube

[glacial haven]

Whick one?

[hollow lagoon]

tempering if u have it at 5+

if u dont then highest cube for science

[rustic sandal]

I'm thinking of getting to Top 10 this week.

[hollow lagoon]

get biscuit

[rustic sandal]

Usually I'm fine with Top 11-30, but considering that I can actually last at Challenger, then maybe, just maybe. I can finish at Top 10.

[glacial haven]

Took out from noah and maiden

Lets see

[hollow lagoon]

ur lack of anti siren tech is weird

should fix that

[rustic sandal]

I do have a good win rate.

[hollow lagoon]

i feel like either risk using rosana to blow them up

or see if u can use slow cindy and win

[glacial haven]

Bah

[hollow lagoon]

slow cindy died?

[glacial haven]

Everyone died.

[hollow lagoon]

he out sycn u?

[glacial haven]

Only Nayuta's indom survived

[glacial haven]

Not at all

[vapid lake]

Time to snipe ur pvp rivals boys

Maint in <1 min

[glacial haven]

Sigh

[rustic sandal]

YES!!!

[glacial haven]

The maintenance has begun.

[glacial haven]

Nevertheless, i will test this out later

[severe nimbus]

someone tried to snipe me. get counter sniped!

[rustic sandal]

I was refreshing every 5 minutes.

No one tried to snipe.

[versed mesa]

Snipe failed... rest of the day and maintenance in Rank 4

[hollow lagoon]

no one tried to snipe me either

[versed mesa]

Pulled trigger too early, the guy I sniped counter sniped right before maintenance start

[hollow lagoon]

then agian people tends to not go for 45% deficit

[rustic sandal]

Getting sniped is scary.
Someone definitely tried to do it last second using quick battle, then won, then immediately maintenance started.

[versed mesa]

Should have trusted my gut and sniped a safer target, got too greedy.

[rustic sandal]

I opened the Arena screen 5 seconds before maintenance started.

[versed mesa]

This is probably going to be my first season in 7 months that I don't get my sweet, sweet 3k gems

[glacial haven]

try it on against his siren?

[hollow lagoon]

the idea is

[oak hatch]

Just snipe them before reset after maintenance

[hollow lagoon]

their siren +scarlet die from whatever it is

rosana burst

[glacial haven]

Mind if i ping you to show the replay? @hollow lagoon

[versed mesa]

Used my free tickets already, I don't use gems ever.

Just got too used to holding a top 3 rank with pretty much no challengers, but the last reshuffle effed me over hard.

[glacial haven]

That was my initial thought.

[oak hatch]

Only failed 1 day anyway, ez to turn it around

[hollow lagoon]

ur noah wont work gardless is the thing

[glacial haven]

Noah is more because of the taunt. Not trying to counter scarlet

[versed mesa]

Yeah, hoping for the best. But anyway, 4th is almost guaranteed, so only 300 gem difference in the end.

[glacial haven]

And to guarantee siren wont stune my burst chain

[hollow lagoon]

if ur cp is enough u can attempt this insanity of a comp, make sure the blue unit is level 1

[glacial haven]

Maybe???

[hollow lagoon]

its a double sac rosana

or u can use level 1 tactical up emma

[glacial haven]

Mana will probaly tank my cp.

[hollow lagoon]

lol mana tanking ur cp?

not the level 1 unit?

[glacial haven]

Yep. She is one of the lowest pvp units cp wise.

[hollow lagoon]

welp then u cant play this insane comp

[glacial haven]

Mana? no.

[hollow lagoon]

no

the idea is u get the blue unit to die twice

and u might have something like a 1rl crazy thing

[glacial haven]

Oh. The blue one is Lv 1

[hollow lagoon]

its unstoppable bull shit

i can see why champ arena wont let people unsync

[glacial haven]

Dont give me ideas to cheese it out

[hollow lagoon]

[glacial haven]

I mean... If it wins, it wins.

Doesn't matter how

[hollow lagoon]

prob rosana can yeet both siren and scarlet

like a normal team

usually i noah that shit but, like

i'm used to not being bothered by siren stun

[glacial haven]

It's way too common on my side.

I already won against this team.

But it was a long time ago. I dont know if it works anymore

[hollow lagoon]

a siren team can never get me because my scarlet has the the right ammo

[ivory violet]

This is a despicable team comp 😹😹😹

[hollow lagoon]

not for me

[ripe aurora]

That's a 10 pull over 20 weeks.
Or 26 pulls over the year.
Do you see how much you're lagging behind?
Top3 or seppuku! /s

[glacial haven]

How much is needed?

[tropic summit]

ye once scarlet is built sub tove for her (scarlet is expensive, 10/x/10 or 7/x/7)

[ivory violet]

32 ammo is the max you can have I think, at 33 scarlet gets stunned by siren

[tropic summit]

T1 noah biscuit vestiTU flex flex (2.5RL) or any DPS B3 (for example RRH)
T2 vestiTU + rosanna + indom to kill vesti and laplace, then stall against xmaiden (or use nayuta as p1)
T3 2RL lethal nuke (lib, scarlet), you need indom or sustain to survive nayua B2 on 5RL, there's siren so account for p1 stun

in both the teams you'll pick, you're likely to be on deficit, so pad as needed

[quick lake]

32 or less

[covert lintel]

Your vesti weak

[polar valley]

Nah, its just suggesting mast in absolute squad is totally D class elo mindset

But dw about it ^^ ive find a solution that gives better true damage for vesti, by just replacing that mast with Siren

[covert lintel]

#pvp-arena message

[polar valley]

Thats because of Soline

Its new meta

Absolute with soline + flex/b3

But real talk, dayum that soline 🥵💦💦💦 didnt expect that smol gurl have that jiggle as well

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/loli-police-cops-anime-tsutsukakushi-gif-5600129

[polar valley]

Uh

Shes adult right?

I mean shes working for lrt station

[tropic summit]

[polar valley]

That granny did a great job cosplaying her

Salute fr2 no cap

[covert lintel]

What does soline do beside healing?

[polar valley]

Reduce CDR greatly

[tropic summit]

making your p1 and p5 into a temporary moran

most matches are over on burst/pre burst, so that's kinda useful

[polar valley]

Yep

Thats why i can't hold it-

PLAPPLAPPLAPPLA-

[raven plover]

pulled solin but no emmatu

[covert lintel]

I have her
But no eunhwa

[polar valley]

Skill issue

[raven plover]

I have eunwha lb 1 wtf

I will just use solin for rapun stun

[polar valley]

But please, they need to fix the way eunhwa holding sniper

Shes not even holding it 😭

Maybe she uses her chest

[covert lintel]

You'll bring her to this CA?

[raven plover]

[covert lintel]

3 Christmas nikke

[real abyss]

xmas chars got the raid skill treatment i guess

[leaden canyon]

Wait is absolute squad in pvp not a meme anymore because of soline?

[cedar sorrel]

She cant be replaced sooner? because my tove isnt built either

[leaden canyon]

8%

[pure moss]

Thank you good sir

[fair pivot]

Is xmaiden still a good unit to pull for someone that doesn’t have her

[pure moss]

yes

[cursive storm]

Guys, is this new diesel winter good for PvP?

[pure moss]

Don't know yet

[fallow bramble]

anyone can advise on pvp teams for both rookie and sparena? i have all the units in the game and pvp units are OL-ed and 10-ed or 7-ed skill and mlb to core7-ed except vesti and bay. treasured bay, treasured helm, treasured.... idk what else

i am currently rank 8, but people above me are like 30-40 sync level lower than me.

[storm hearth]

hows diesel's battery

[gaunt pulsar]

poor, she isn't clip rl

[storm hearth]

oh i thought shes a clip rl looks like i misunderstood lol

whats the indicator again if theyre a clip rl

[gaunt pulsar]

reload time can be used to determine and animation, but most conclusive is just shooting with her in union shooting range

[cursive storm]

Do you know when Nora will be updated as PvP character? That granny seems legit

[ivory violet]

Diesel isn't that great in PvP from the few tests that I ran

not rly surprising though

[raven plover]

just realize me no rok for diesel OLs

[marble saddle]

Any advice?
it think t2 isnt that feasible
and t3's vesti might survive rosa's nuke

[fallow nebula]

Does sbs liberalio work?

[raven plover]

yes and no. both blocked by noah

[marble saddle]

well fraq. he swaped the teams last sec before i atked

[raven plover]

damn he camp you?

[marble saddle]

hes basically lurking here 24/7

[radiant storm]

@tropic summit or any of you guys, can you recommend me some teams in CA?

[marble saddle]

as soon as 1 msg from me appears he changes teams

[raven plover]

insane

[marble saddle]

ask railtracer if you doubt me

[marble saddle]

whats really insane is hes in same union as deepink

[radiant storm]

What I don't have (not upgraded) are Treasure Poli, OL Rumani, OL Soda, OL Rosanna for Pvp

[marble saddle]

@raven plover people use Toli for CA???

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/thegoon-bigoldgoon-ted-lasso-yes-yes-yes-yes-gif-701975896996955852

[rustic sandal]

Whoa?!

I changed my defense team and suddenly the Rank 1 can't touch me anymore. I'm now the Rank 1.

[cedar sorrel]

We love to see it

[rustic sandal]

I changed it to this.

If I'm a betting man, he's using the same attack and defense team.

[tropic summit]

ye you can

[nimble swan]

copy your previous winner

[tropic summit]

T1 scar trina rh anis centi
T2 indom vestiTU
T3 SG team
T4 slow cindy
T5 any moran/noise noah/bay team with helmT and flex B3

[cedar sorrel]

I see the only thing tove has going for her is that shes 2lb and has 444 skills

[nimble swan]

I'm in a huge debate about if I should go with scar soda, or scar rh.
Actually Soda is completely unbuilt and I would need to SR15 her or she 100% dies to another scarlet.
What do u think?

[tropic summit]

you got em

[tropic summit]

soda can make you clutch some matchups
RH is way more situational, it needs a team that lets you double buff nuke unprotected and doesn't kill you before bursting, meaning

scar trina rh loses to:

• SG rosanna
• 2RL noah
• 2RL bayT

wins against:

• non nayuta/blanc slow cindy
• any slow team (rare)
• any 2.5RL noise/moran

[marble saddle]

took me more than 1 try tho so overall its a loss

[tropic summit]

the fact it only took you 1 attempt to know what you were doing wrong is still progress at least

means you're actively thinking now

[marble saddle]

well i do watch the vids of my failed attempts afterall

[marble saddle]

yeah. Just not good enough that t2 was a miserable experience

[nimble swan]

Well, in my bracket Scar Rh always wins against SG, the only exception is Nayuta SG.
But yeah the dilemma is basically what you described.
There's one more addition, that if I skip building Soda, I can invest a bit more into pepper and can run 2RL Vesti indom with double B1. Last time I lost vs SG because I only had Jackal as B1..
And then I have no idea how on Earth will I also build units for next Solo Raid.
Actually the Soda option will be by far the most expensive and I'm not sure if it's worth the investment.
Yeah it's rough

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit question. who here has atked his emillia?
is it from cindy's burst?

or was it laplace?

[tropic summit]

hmm if that's what's troubling you, i'd tell you to just skip this CA and focus on solo raid

CA is something you can invest in at any time anyway, no problem if you skip one CA and just go with w/e is available

[tropic summit]

yeah you don't have any p3 hitters pre burst, on burst cindy will randomly target any unit first, emi happened to be one of the first

[ripe aurora]

Post by proxy then, with your avatar but with a mustache

[marble saddle]

i thought his noah tanked my cindy burst

[nimble swan]

Hmm I think you kinda convinced me, I'm skipping building Soda from scratch. I have 10 cooks so I still have decent options with Scar RH.
But I would like to get my 2nd ever top 3% after previous raid, so yeah

[tropic summit]

i mentioned this to you before, for noah to catch cindy nuke she needs to be same speed

0.5RL faster noah will get hit partially by cindy followup hits, these can be lethal on at least 1 unit
0.5RL slower noah will get hit partially by initial cindy hits, these can be lethal on at least 1 unit

1RL slower noah is completely wide open, pants down

[marble saddle]

so cindy's burst isnt exactly instantaneous but isnt as delayed

[tropic summit]

sub anis, xmaiden should've better CP than her, team speed remains the same

[tropic summit]

it's delayed but faster than lib

it's also spread out as hits are on burst and followup

[marble saddle]

k noted.

[nimble swan]

it's 9 sequential beams relatively fast after each other. So not instant like Scarlet and not prolonged like SBS

[tropic summit]

pve would be 7/10/10 or 10/10/10 (for cindy team)
pvp would be 7/10/7 or 10/10/10

honestly, if you're just using her as battery, stick to 4/4/4 or 4/7/4 as you are right now

[fallow bramble]

anyone can advise on pvp teams for both rookie and sparena? i have all the units in the game and pvp units are OL-ed and 10-ed or 7-ed skill and mlb to core7-ed except vesti and bay. treasured bay, treasured helm, treasured.... idk what else

i am currently rank 8, but people above me are like 30-40 sync level lower than me

[tropic summit]

post your lineup in this format, this helps seeing invest and dolls

#pvp-arena message

[fallow bramble]

thank you!

[tropic summit]

oke taking a look

[tropic summit]

Temporary SP arena team until notes are done

• jackal s.anis drakeT blanc centi
• noise noah cindy biscuit rumani
• nayuta trina helmt RH emilia

Rookie

• jackal siren cindy helmT noah

Notes:

• build your utilities (noah, blanc, biscuit, rumani, trina, jackal, centi)
• build emilia and vestiTU
• get laplace treasured

[fallow bramble]

thank you! and when notes are done?

[tropic summit]

can change T2 and T1

specifically vestiTU indom will be an upgrade to your current s.anis

as for T2 can be turned into 2RL

[fallow bramble]

so it will be
jackal vestiTU drakeT blanc centi
noise noah cindy biscuit rumani
nayuta trina helmT RH emilia

bay treasure, poli treasure, scarlet unused?

[haughty mortar]

Can I please get assistance in making 5 teams for Champs?

[night patrol]

pvp team for rookie?

[onyx scaffold]

Nayuta Trina Liberalio RH Rapunzel

[atomic wolf]

caught with their p*nts down 💀

[austere gale]

hi guys, can you help me build a team for rookie and teams for SP arena?

[fallow bramble]

i have 5 slots for quantum cube level 9, should i use it both or just use resi/bastion for those that say no quantum cube?

[cedar sorrel]

Is xmaid worth pulling? (For pvp)

[austere gale]

@tropic summit @onyx scaffold can you guys help, pretty pls?

[hollow lagoon]

Wow this is rare

Phase 4 blue

Unbelievable

[cedar sorrel]

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit fault

[ripe aurora]

That's some cursed rng you got

[hollow lagoon]

but i pulled a rapi oof of blue tickets last night i can accept this

[ripe aurora]

For that kinda of rng you had to pull rapipi out of friendship points somehow.
Visit your local shrine to cleanse your karma, fam

[covert lintel]

How was diesel speed?

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

took 30 kit to get to phase 5 blue kekw

[lunar pawn]

you think I should use the same teams as before?

[shell hazel]

makes up for all the times you get SR-15 in like 10 blues 😄

[hollow lagoon]

yes

[opal wind]

guys are these teams tuff for sp arena? or should i change smth

[glad meteor]

Sanis stall is old now

Scar blanc is too slow
Nero Moran just vesti bait

[swift mango]

Closed call today again

🤏

[swift mango]

Scar Blanc RH could work with HelmT in SpA. And in CA there are lots of feeds anyway, just get lucky.

[opal wind]

so basically i should change everything

[glad meteor]

Railtracer time to cook 🧑‍🍳

[opal wind]

i have vesti as well

i just dont know what to pair her with
for all my teams to be happy🥀

and i havent invested at all in her

[austere gale]

still looking for help

[opal wind]

me too gang🫂

[swift mango]

Jaiesel.

[shell hazel]

you go max core xdiesel?

[swift mango]

[haughty mortar]

Can any PVP pro give this bro a hand?

[wind kelp]

Welp, time to throw stuff at the wall and see how League goes again. It's an honor to be nominated i bet 😄

[swift mango]

She is basically ReiA 2.0 with only SR usage and I'm bricked poor.

[minor urchin]

What are the cubes for scarlet trina rh centi jackal?

Just got trina

[shell hazel]

I need a brid copy first then I can consider dupes/mlb with whatever I have left

if I want either in theory I could get one maybe, but I dunno lol

[swift mango]

I would just skip this event

[wind kelp]

For me when i see the words "will NOT appear in" on the notes, it's a must pull :p

[shell hazel]

I need mileage for anis

so I can afford to spam pulls on stuff somewhat

[swift mango]

Is Brid clip? Her kits is fine for a B2. Better than Viper.

[shell hazel]

I think we worked out she wasn't

I'll get 1 of each and see what I have left anyway

[swift mango]

Who knows

[swift mango]

I don't nhave the resource to pull or build anyone now. Even last Anniversary nikkes still not maxed skill. So basically a skip.

[shell hazel]

xguillotine shall forever be in unbuilt nikke list

[swift mango]

Maybe I would pull for her if she was Fire or Iron.

[wind kelp]

Oh i have 0 gems and 0 tickets, got her in 13 after using the 20 i had saved. 600 left in the bank from the time i've had, still, putting everything in as always 😄

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-tobey-maguire-four-eyes-glasses-cant-see-gif-5621389

[oblique void]

Heya!

Can I ask a question? Helping for a friend.

[spiral onyx]

S2 bonus mini nuke sounds nice though but SG feed could be worrisome. Gotta see her burst gen as well

[lone sequoia]

200 pulls... only 1 milk

[oblique void]

Well, in PvP he said that most of the time he saw someone put Jackal to P5. He said that Jackal in P1 works well too. Does the positioning for Jackal really matter?

[lone sequoia]

gz, around 200 is average for me to get 1 copy... still no diesel

[spiral onyx]

No so long as P1 and P5 are either Jackal linked or Jackal herself. There's some nuanced consideration wrt Rosanna stripping or Siren stunning though but generally they are the same

[oblique void]

That's what I thought either. I'm just wondering if it could affect her Burst Gen as well.

[lone sequoia]

220 1 milk-1frima...

next one will be sugar...

[oblique void]

Got three of them at 50 pulls. Not bad I guess...?

[lone sequoia]

probably is better to wait for brid... to waste more gems

[glad meteor]

Yeah. If jackal or jackal linked nikke is hit 10 times. The team gets 3.55 burst gen

[spiral onyx]

Only if Rosanna unlinks should it affect

Do keep in mind that a P1 Jackal will B1 burst... And usually there are better B1 options

[fallow bramble]

guys whats is the minimum level for vesti TU burst to hit the corner units from a corner

[glad meteor]

Just make support have higher atk ol

[glad meteor]

Burst 7 to hit all 5 should be

With autos

[shell hazel]

my rosanna isn't stripping?! I want the stripping version

[cedar sorrel]

Is xmaid worth pulling? (For pvp)

[peak halo]

80 pull got 3 diesel and 2 xmaiden and 1 bay

forgot to hit record

atleast back to challenge 3 and got away with extra 300 gems

[lone sequoia]

gz

230- 1milk-1frima

[swift mango]

Finally got phase 7 on fire and Iron AI. All thanks to Rapipi 4 Ele line.

[lone sequoia]

when you will get the frame?

i mean title

[swift mango]

Never.

I'm not gonna roll anymore Ele.

Maybe when I get to level 800 and have enough stat to just walk over it.

[lone sequoia]

but the cap is 400

[swift mango]

Research level.

[lone sequoia]

current cap is like lvl 500(?

[swift mango]

What are you talking about?

[lone sequoia]

recycling room, the lvls depends in your max sync lvl. should be the same lvl as the main HP trait (?)

or is uncapped and just a money sink for whales?

[swift mango]

Idk you go figure.

I think max right now is 480. According to this guy.

[lone sequoia]

how can i make a ticket? i will probably quit after that

[placid bloom]

manu is capped at the same as regular recycle

[spiral onyx]

Time to ask Grok
https://fxtwitter.com/Merryweatherey/status/1947672645505585559?s=20

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[swift mango]

Wut?

[umbral crown]

Global has a 1020, so should be a bit more

[swift mango]

490 then

[swift mango]

You could screenshot his research screen.

For science

[umbral crown]

Gonna update the game tonight when i get home

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

3h20' more before you missed first day of the event

[umbral crown]

I always miss it

Im old

[wind kelp]

Thanks for the reminder folks, had to login to see if the 4-5 spa people schedule is the same, it is, so hitback scheduled at this time for the phone 😄 Next login they have is in 7 hours, either win or fail(bit 50% on that), and then in 12 hours. That does keep me on 5th for 4-5 hours typically, but, 19h on 3rd per day should work.

[swift mango]

Why generate an image, just press her down.

[spiral onyx]

Please, we are degenerates here, not Maxwells

[tropic summit]

scarlet is easy to deal with in most of her setups
bay treasure is abusable when used on def
poli treasure is unfortunately very weak on defense

[tropic summit]

you can use quantum on batteries in jackal team, the other teams won't benefit from those

[tropic summit]

they weren't bad and no particular change to meta, you could

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta anis helmT RH laplaceT
• jackal lib drakeT blanc xmaiden
• midhara rumani siren biscuit cindy

Rookie

• jackal siren cindy helmt biscuit

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/hp-harry-potter-snape-always-stare-gif-17584635

[onyx scaffold]

Is this order good?

Noise Ada XMaiden Blanc Jackal

[tropic summit]

who's linked

noise and ada?

[onyx scaffold]

Noise and ada I hope

[tropic summit]

don't hope, run it in shooting range and confirm

either way ye it looks good, you'll indom ada

[onyx scaffold]

It is for my alt. I cooked vesti-less line up and now I remember Emilia is benched

Laplace is benched too

[lunar pawn]

kudos

[tropic summit]

keep in mind that team needs a lot of feed, 75% to 2RL and 76% to 2.5RL, very high chance you're 3RL without heavier feed

you'd need multiple ARs/SMGs or 1 SG

[onyx scaffold]

What ada-main focus team would be?

[tropic summit]

you can use ada as non main B3 too though, else she's best on indom teams

[fallow bramble]

Thank you! How should i rebuild my team when my notes are done?
I just invested on vesti

[tropic summit]

if you've emi/laplaceT open you can make that team 2RL @onyx scaffold

[cedar sorrel]

Is rrh good in this mode?

[tropic summit]

she can be situationally, although generally speaking she's bad because poor burst gen + feed

as such her teams are limited

[fallow bramble]

Thank you

[cedar sorrel]

What does feed mean?

[eager brook]

Just checking, do you lose the overflow points?

[onyx scaffold]

No

U only lose the white tickets

[tropic summit]

any weapon class but RL and SR feed enemy jackals or linked units, giving them more burst gen

this is especially relevant in SP arena defense teams, you want your teams to feed the least possible, so that they're not weak to jackal or scarlet teams

this is mitigated although if your team is natural 2RL, although it can still be used from the opponent to spend less resources for their attack team

e.g. a team that is 3RL, but can be promoted to 2RL via feed can afford running slower stronger units because of that, essentially you're helping the opponent having an easier time

[cedar sorrel]

Ahhhh that seems really bad then lol

[unkempt flame]

anyone available to help me make defense teams?

[tropic summit]

go ahead and post your box in this format
#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• jackal siren scarlet trina drakeT
• noise noah cindy helmt rumani
• blanc lib rh biscuit centi

notes

• wishlist/build vestiTU
• get laplace treasured

[unkempt flame]

Okay awesome thank you

[haughty mortar]

@tropic summit Could I poke your synapes for a 5 squad PVP team for Champs'?

[quartz vortex]

is it worth putting xmaiden into a non electric team?

[haughty mortar]

No as she is solely there to buff that particular comp

[tropic summit]

here you go

[lone sequoia]

if you need a burst gen unit that also have dmg and work as safe b3? yes, good unit, there are also better or different options for that role (if you need a defender work) her elemental dmg buff is not a priority in team building

[glad meteor]

For pvp she can be used with biscuit synergy or just as burst gen filler

Also shes anti rosanna

[lone sequoia]

in DR+xmaiden her elemental dmg buff is bad most of the time, but she is already a good unit there just for how some units work

[quartz vortex]

wondering since i just randomly hit her off the current banner right now

thats how the current team is looking like

[swift mango]

For arena? It's fine. For PvE? No.

Elusion Tower maybe.

[lone sequoia]

ssrapi+maids+helm

[north brook]

Shes fine on her own, better with some elec teammates basically

[haughty mortar]

I do now have XGuil and XMaid and xDiesel. Does it make a difference? No investment other than gear. for the first two.

[onyx scaffold]

i skip this CA
I have to focus on SR

||that is a lie. CA has no gameplay anyway. im tired of getting fked by rng||

[unkempt flame]

Hey just coming back to this, I've managed to get laplace treasured and I was wondering if I could slot her in

[haughty mortar]

Also this is the other Rapunzel. I don't have this pervy one. And viper is treasured. No Cindy either

[tropic summit]

ye sub centi for laplaceT

T3

blanc lib rh biscuit laplaceT

[unkempt flame]

Ok thank you

[tropic summit]

nah nothing to change there with those

[tropic summit]

use w/e B3 instead of cindy in T4
use noise in T3
viper is fine as long as she's phase 2

[haughty mortar]

She is max phase, and skills are in 2nd thressholds

[tropic summit]

great, put viper in p1 and naga in p4

[gritty ridge]

No x.maid for CA

[haughty mortar]

Also much appreciated for that team you gave me vs Osprey! I am doing a triple kill on him every time

When does XMaid and XGuil become viable in PVP?

[umbral belfry]

xguil never

xmaid is burst gen and or off burst dmg

[north brook]

Xguil is at best water only sr only unit

[umbral belfry]

so decent pick

[north brook]

Xmaiden is pretty good in general for elec teams, elysion tower, burst gen and or burst unit in pvp

[eager brook]

Just checking, do you lose the overflow points?

[placid bloom]

you lose arena vouchers, but not red chips

[lone sequoia]

again?

[shell hazel]

you already asked that here? #pvp-arena message

[eager brook]

Oh sorry discord messed up

[swift mango]

Nice that you focus on something.

[swift mango]

Yeah, he gonna lose it again and again.

[fickle jetty]

need help again

[lone sequoia]

helm main b3(?

[eager umbra]

Why do I lose this fight despite having a 100K power advantage? Is TUVesti that cracked?

[lone sequoia]

your team suck

you don't fight defender+biscuit with sbs

[fickle jetty]

same

[lone sequoia]

is a counter

[lone sequoia]

??

[eager umbra]

I didn't know 4/5ths of my team being SSS tier was bad

[lone sequoia]

xd

you don't use tier list to make teams

is just that the way sbs deal dmg is not good against biscuit S2

[placid bloom]

there is matchup that you need to take into account

[eager umbra]

Okay, then what counters that team?

[placid bloom]

Biscuit walls single target dps, and distributed dmg can be taunted by Noah

[lone sequoia]

she deal 0 distributed damage against defenders that have biscuit S2 active, then enemy vesti just kill your units in the time you lose

[placid bloom]

do you have Vesti or no

[eager umbra]

I don't

[lone sequoia]

a nuke comp- rosanna b1 snipe, helm b3, there are many options to win against that team

the easiest team should be something like 2RL helm b3

[placid bloom]

80 level diff, should be able to brute force

and the Noah surely isn't Jackal linked

if they have no cs, Mermaid nuke works

[eager umbra]

"Brute force" is the most meme phrase on this server

[lone sequoia]

i hate siren in pvp

but good unit

[placid bloom]

if they have cs then have to adjust team

[lone sequoia]

what is the final D in your ign?

[eager umbra]

it's a reference to a version of my username I don't use anymore because it was too long.

[glacial hatch]

I need heeeeelp 💔

[warm monolith]

T1 and t2 has both vestitu?

[placid bloom]

even at 15% cs on everyone other than SBS, their team cannot avoid Mermaid stun but if they are 5head and their Noah has higher Atk then their SBS then you lose

linked Noah lets them burst Noah in time

[lone sequoia]

same team+ helm b3 and siren

[placid bloom]

the LapT can be whatever tbh

[fickle jetty]

how about mine

[lone sequoia]

he already have jackal,should be fine

[placid bloom]

I already fulfilled my quota of helping 1 person every 6 days so you have to ask someone else

[lone sequoia]

i don't like to make teams, but do you know the speed of the enemy team? high or low cs?

[lone sequoia]

quota? is rail in "charge" now?

[fickle jetty]

very high cs