pvp-arena

[hollow lagoon]

ye

[keen vapor]

Behe?

[tropic summit]

damn then there's hope for me

do you have le video of the clear @hollow lagoon-sensei

[hollow lagoon]

saw some one do a 477 clear on blabla

or 487?

[swift mango]

I wished I have resources to upgrade Nayuta.

Missed the chance to use the last 3 skill reset

[livid prairie]

when the cp deficit is so high that raptures kill you by just existing

[tropic summit]

it's cuz you spent them on beaches and hoes

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

https://www.blablalink.com/post/detail?post_uuid=2899716027529009982

[covert lintel]

I cleared this a while ago

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon ok fixed it

[swift mango]

26.5% was my video. Get to 40% and it's max deficit for Arena, no way to win at that range.

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-tia-explosion-goddness-of-victory-boom-gif-10356743037255363170

[livid prairie]

oponent kills you with his aura

[swift mango]

501 isn't low clear.

[hollow lagoon]

501 is not low

501 is like standard

well

mid-low end

like ur average rolls and decent skill invests pass it

[umbral belfry]

@placid bloom

nayu got dispelled

now it truly is gg

[hollow lagoon]

rip

[placid bloom]

yes that's why Nayu Cinderella is no good

2 defender + Biscuit

[hollow lagoon]

i thought about doing nayu cindy but blanc cindy has been so reliable

[umbral belfry]

would've been better if rumani was p5 if he knew nayu would be dispelled vs rosa

[hollow lagoon]

rosa targets 2 highest attack units

would rumani being p5 matter?

[placid bloom]

it is just coinflip

[hollow lagoon]

techanically, if roll biscuit with a lot of attack lines and max doll and dupes u could out attack nayuta? no she self buffs rip

[crystal flicker]

Almost every fight is rng

[placid bloom]

SG is the most coinflip

because it's the easiest to build against

[swift mango]

Rumanj got one shot lol.

[covert lintel]

But when your research level is beyond your opponent, it doesn't really matter

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/antman-what-the-hell-happened-here-avengers-gif-18240147

[swift mango]

Anyway, This is the problem with bad positioning
Not RNG, just bad build.

[placid bloom]

you will still lose to RNG with bad position if Nayuta gets dispelled

[swift mango]

Back shot Midhara then Drake one shot Rumani, Team cant burst afterward

[placid bloom]

you put Rumani p1 Nayu p5, you lose if they are defending

and if reverse you lose if they attack

[umbral belfry]

makes it easier for me then

[placid bloom]

you can do Cinderella p5 and Rumani p1 but then you lose to Blanc Cinderella

because you bursting Mihara

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-banjou-samurai-giants-anime-baseball-hitter-gif-4100728185825733437

[placid bloom]

so it's all RNG

[swift mango]

Nayu p1, Rumani p5. Or other way around is fine. It's because Midhara p5 you got back shot and lose.

SG js 3.5 RL without killing midhara. Drake won't do anything to Stop rumani from bursting.

[placid bloom]

no if you Nayu p1 and her indom is dispelled and they are attacking instead of defending you lose

so it's coinflip either way

ofc you win if you Rumani p5 and they are defending

and your Nayuta don't get one-shot by Ros B1 at 3.5RL

[swift mango]

Rosa dispel 2 highest attack. it doesn't matter the position.
Read her skill again.

or unit type

[placid bloom]

yes that's the point, if they are attacking your Nayuta dies no matter if she is p1 or p5

[covert lintel]

Like this?

[placid bloom]

I mean uh

if she is wrong side

[swift mango]

Just don't make your Nayuta 2nd highest atk.

[placid bloom]

yes that's why it's hard

unless you have 4 black Atk Cinderella or something

[placid bloom]

because nobody rolling Atk on Biscuit

[covert lintel]

Not hard, just don't take any atk stat
Take ED instead

[placid bloom]

this sound like brick strat

[umbral belfry]

although tbf their sgs are fairly high cp

[placid bloom]

better to just not run Nayu on that team

[covert lintel]

That's me

[umbral belfry]

but even if they were mid the result would be thr same

[swift mango]

it's super easy.
You built Nayuta after Biscuit and Cindy, getting her ATk lower is a cling. unless you got 4 tier 11 atk line from 4 rock and dont want to change.

[umbral belfry]

nayu getting dispelled just screws em

time for atk on bisc

[placid bloom]

no, people actually build anni char

people don't build Biscuit

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

and if you build both Nayu and Cinderella, Nayu should have higher Atk

[crystal flicker]

Every support became pHARMacist

[umbral belfry]

I bricked my nayu by doing 4 atk

now I have to wait to put her on my sg team

[swift mango]

We are on Arena chat so it's your fault if you don't build arena unit.

[umbral belfry]

bc she has highest atk

[placid bloom]

Nayu Cinderella is not even better than Blanc

[swift mango]

And get atk on Nayuta instead of just Ele and Crit rate.

[placid bloom]

you can be walled by Nero Moran

[crystal flicker]

Nayu is good

[placid bloom]

I mean do you have 4 Atk on Centi

I don't think so

[swift mango]

get her 4 ele and Rapu won't survive to see the day.

[placid bloom]

but she is technically optimal Jackal link for p5

a lot of stuff is not viable unless you have infinite rock

4 Atk Biscuit is one of them

[tropic summit]

imagine spending that many rocks just for a silly frame

[swift mango]

Build her stat with a purpose in mind. PvE only Ele is important anyway.
If you wanted her to be jackal linked then build atk and don't use her in Cindy team.

[placid bloom]

you need Atk to kill deficit opponent too

if you have 0 Atk Nayuta you cannot use her as option to kill higher CP

[covert lintel]

Where's the naked king art

[tropic summit]

in @keen vapor's room probably

[swift mango]

use RH to buff her.
and you don't use her smol wipe to kill anyone when your are in deficit.

[placid bloom]

it's not just her wipe, her charge attack after with FB multiplier

she can kill Scarlet team because that team runs no defense utility

[swift mango]

against, if you build her with too high attack then don't use her in a team that she would be dispel. it's just your bad for building bad team.

[crystal flicker]

Talk for yourself

Soda is a Defense utility

[placid bloom]

when do Nayuta care about Soda

[covert lintel]

You're still defending nayu atk stat is good for pvp

[placid bloom]

Soda stop Noah, it don't stop Nayuta

[swift mango]

you sure bout that?

[crystal flicker]

My 1.6RL Soda can stun B1 2RL and kill them before burst

[tropic summit]

i like how you guys are talking about a situation that needs to meet these requirements:

• a scar-soda matchup against nayuta, which has 1 chance out of 5 to happen against an opponent, assuming they even run them
• in that matchup, soda has to specifically stun nayuta, which is again 1 chance out of 5

crazy sometimes

[placid bloom]

Nayuta doesn't care about stun though

[crystal flicker]

2/5

[placid bloom]

she justs bursts after stun wears off and reverse wipe

[swift mango]

2 out of 5

[glad meteor]

Need to stun the b1. Not nayu

[placid bloom]

yes it only works if you have cs diff and you still need RNG

[tropic summit]

ah another variable

[glad meteor]

Can use biscuit + rumani

[tropic summit]

there's also CS% diff

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit rapunzel best dps clearly

[covert lintel]

2/5 is like 40%chance

[shell hazel]

most damage and heals 😄

[frank ingot]

how to beat this in rookie?

[glad meteor]

Soda stun is shorter than siren which is nice for nayu bisc team

[tropic summit]

would you put your hand on fire and say "oh wow this sounds reliable"

[placid bloom]

Biscuit + any B1 tank work, it can be Jackal too

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit vestiTU helmT RH

[placid bloom]

either way Soda is not unbreachable defense for Nayuta

if you get to B2 you can always wipe

reverse wipe

[oak hatch]

Which team wins?

[placid bloom]

point is Nayuta is useful for CP deficit attack

[frank ingot]

Thank you

[tropic summit]

right team likely

link with 2 wind codes gonna love vestiTU

[oak hatch]

hope so, thx

[swift mango]

not if you already burst with another b2 that's not stun. So you maybe not able to use RH to buff her. Unless she is core 7 with 50% attack she aren't gonna wipe anything unbuffed.

[tropic summit]

lib died really early uh

[covert lintel]

Is nayu affected by cs stat?
I got so many cs on her

[shell hazel]

cindy got her 🙁

[swift mango]

no

[placid bloom]

fixed charge speed cannot be changed

[swift mango]

HelmT and Libby focus on her. And I don't think the attract taunt could taunt them from p5. So it's a matter of mechanic

[covert lintel]

so bricked

[shell hazel]

it was my libby/helmt, just cindy nuke got her

[swift mango]

she could use charge dmg, not charge speed

[shell hazel]

helmt died also but she got jesus'ed back to life

[tropic summit]

iirc they fixed attract to actually work correctly now, does it have a max range as in p5 doesn't get taunted? that'd be new to me

[covert lintel]

But it's hard to roll on the 3rd slot

[swift mango]

maybe ask them for full video. I still remember attract taunt only get attacked after p5 died.

Last I fight it.

[tropic summit]

wow thats wild

CA exclusive or also in SP arena?

[late tiger]

What team gets 1.6rl

[swift mango]

like I said, maybe it got fixed and I never tested afterward.

because I have no info about a fix or anything.

[tropic summit]

all i know is that you could run

noah biscuit rh helmt laplaceT before against noah biscuit flex flex flex and RH would still shoot p5 even while noah taunted

but ever since a few months noah restarted taunting correctly

if you telling me p5 isn't affect due to range from the taunter, that'd be interesting

[swift mango]

not sure about that. Maybe maybe not.

[swift mango]

I could do a video to test I guess. or you could too.

anyway, I got all the girl from current Azur Lane collab. I'm satisfied .

[tropic summit]

who's that

also how didn't you burn out already from playing that

[covert lintel]

[swift mango]

I'm very casual.

Game is quick to clear.

even when I was playing Rise of Kingdom, that war game. I still had time for Azur Lane. Unlike sth like Honkai

you don't need to play every day as well

[tropic summit]

uh that sounds doable then

in fact if many gacha could allow you to catch up on dailies on a weekly basis i could keep up with many more

e.g. playing a gacha once a week

[swift mango]

There is daily but reward generous enough you don't need to clear daily everyday. And it only take some sweep for 2 mins anyway

[severe tundra]

I used to be able to beat their team but I don't remember the team comp I had when I did it lol

[keen vapor]

Can't do final QTE for some reason

Also I feel like I'm missing some DMG to clear it despite 90 ele Cindy

@hollow lagoon

[severe tundra]

mostly what I'm working with

[hollow lagoon]

my 60 ele cindy says hi

[swift mango]

what's this.?

[severe tundra]

I need to learn how to build teams. Teach a man to fish and all that...

[keen vapor]

Use Scarlet team against that Cindy

And Noise Noah Cindy Helm against Scarlet

[hollow lagoon]

what is ur cp anyway

[keen vapor]

Invest that Liberalio

[hollow lagoon]

oh there's ur problem

[keen vapor]

Behemoth

I'm lacking damage

[keen vapor]

I just said I couldn't clear QTE for some reason despite aiming at it

Is on the corner

[swift mango]

again, what's this? you don't even have b1 in a 3 minutes fight.

[hollow lagoon]

rapi b1

[keen vapor]

you baka

[hollow lagoon]

true pvp main

[tropic summit]

is there a rumani down there?

[keen vapor]

@hollow lagoon did you used Siren or what

[swift mango]

oh that was rapi, not rh.

[hollow lagoon]

i used rapi

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

Why I'm losing aaaaaaaaaa

[hollow lagoon]

rapi's burst 1 explosion is needed to clear qte fast fast

[keen vapor]

And siren makes everyone fire....

[hollow lagoon]

u can try siren

[swift mango]

hey rapi b1 is just right for my Ada.

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

CP, or skill issue

[tropic summit]

assemble these and post matchup to check CP

[swift mango]

I had not enough dmg before 501 but survive isn't that hard with HelmT b3.

[keen vapor]

Wonder if I should do this instead of Helm

Rapi gets aimed 8/10 times

More electric damage as well

But more manual

[swift mango]

I should try to mald. Maybe I could have enough dmg

[umbral crown]

Blood 501?

[hollow lagoon]

u cant live the electric storm without helm

[swift mango]

I could be 510 now if opening my boxes but too lazy to mald behe

[tropic summit]

he's gonna iFrame the storm

[hollow lagoon]

LOL

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[keen vapor]

Ada gives lifesteal as well

[hollow lagoon]

ur crown dies then

and ur ada

[swift mango]

Well, people cleared Behe before helm with Rapu. I don't have rapu though.

[hollow lagoon]

[severe tundra]

whatever middle team

[tropic summit]

oh you're ahead of 30ish synchro, guess you never had to worry about it actually, you can run those

[tropic summit]

ye auto the other, doesn't matter

[severe tundra]

TRES BIEN

[severe tundra]

Thank you again

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit you got a moment?

[tropic summit]

aye

[marble saddle]

need to ask something about CS

[covert lintel]

Use liter instead

[marble saddle]

according to the pic my trina has 10% CS but what does this mean?

i shouldnt use the Lightning symbol until i get 15% cs on RL units?

[tropic summit]

11%CS for siren resistance, 15%CS for 0.5 thresholds, the remaining other are all targets to reduce further frames

[keen vapor]

Requirement for "fast" shoot that bumps your team speed

[marble saddle]

so i shouldnt use that icon until i get 15% CS on my trina?

[tropic summit]

just aim for 15% in a general sense on all batteries, vestiTU emi and helmT are the exceptions where you can stop on 8%

[keen vapor]

That's right

[marble saddle]

ah

ok. time to cook something

[keen vapor]

aim 18%, 15 is scam

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/castorice-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-rice-fried-rice-gif-15126117275146411567

[covert lintel]

Why discriminate them

[tropic summit]

he's not pvp main, also he doesn't give a F about CA

[keen vapor]

Vesti 2 CS enough

[tropic summit]

es correcto

[keen vapor]

[wild hemlock]

21% or bricked

[keen vapor]

Helm

[marble saddle]

Frick...... ive identified the lynchpin of my CS troubles

time to put some stones to a good cause after reset

[swift mango]

Yeah I still don't have enough dmg for behemoth.

Weak units are weak

[keen vapor]

Rail, how many levels I need to defeat Behe

Rail, how much rock investment I should put on Ada

In the end Electric will be my best element at this rate

[covert lintel]

Liter or rapi rh as buffer?

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

1. 501
2. none, bench ada and run

crown rapi cindy helmt mmast
or
nayuta rapi cindy helmt crown

[keen vapor]

How much rock I should put on Nayuta

[tropic summit]

i ask for your knowledge @hollow lagoon

[hollow lagoon]

I got summoned

[covert lintel]

behemoth need nayuta?

[tropic summit]

can*

[hollow lagoon]

@keen vapor tried using sanis over Mmast yet?

[keen vapor]

No

All electric units not named Cindy have 2 ele only

[hollow lagoon]

It’s ok

2ele is luxury

Idk why ur trying to show off to me

[keen vapor]

Ikr

[hollow lagoon]

Me here with my 1 ele ein cry’s in the corner

[covert lintel]

I used this team in the past
Whenever my hp is below 50%, i use helmt burst instead of sanis

[tropic summit]

at 501?

or was it 521

[covert lintel]

I forgot

[hollow lagoon]

It would have issue deleting missiles without rapi

But could be done

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/toradora-taiga-tsk-maid-gif-5894262

[hollow lagoon]

@keen vapor how many times did u try Behe just me curious

[covert lintel]

I'm tanking it with cover cause liter can repair it

[shut seal]

@tropic summit Can I ask for a rookie def reco?

[hollow lagoon]

Dis thing ain’t gonna live particularly well

[keen vapor]

5 runs were long

Too many resets bc someone dying even on first seconds
-# Someone is Rapi

[hollow lagoon]

Oh u only did 5 runs , try 50+

[keen vapor]

Gets closer to 25 with short ones

[hollow lagoon]

So half way there

[keen vapor]

I'm telling you

If I get the 3 min I'm ending with not enough damage

[hollow lagoon]

U do know to burst mast every 3rd burst for the mast version right

[covert lintel]

Maybe blood can see my clear team and level in the clear info

[keen vapor]

I did burst every time Cindy did

[hollow lagoon]

My Cindy is 3 ele

[keen vapor]

I'm not buffing Helm

[hollow lagoon]

My mast was pertty bad

Only worth it if I do the every 3 burst

[keen vapor]

My Mast maxed

[swift mango]

541

[keen vapor]

She's core 1

More power than my RH

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-sad-look-gif-6274792656160671100

[keen vapor]

It means my RH is brick

[covert lintel]

damn so high

[hollow lagoon]

My rh also lower than my mast

But atleast my rh is 3 ele

0atk tho

[keen vapor]

Bricker than me (3 ele as well though)

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t have a single 4 ele

[eternal finch]

Any recs vs these teams?

[hollow lagoon]

Prob don’t need biscuit for t3

Vesti on vesti is strange

U could prob solve their vesti comp with a siren comp

[hollow lagoon]

Have u bay?

Yeah better off without biscuit or else u might have issue trying to catch scarlet burst

[tropic summit]

you're on the left

T1 assumes you've 8CS% vestiTU

Cubes:

T1:

vesti quantum
blanc vigor
rh any
centi quantum
jackal quantum

T3:

any

Notes: teams are assumed not in deficit

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit welp this time i waited till xx:59 before changing,he basically either just had generic teams ready or was able to change in 30 secs

[tropic summit]

[marble saddle]

luckily i didnt waste my attempt after reset so i still got 2

[swift mango]

I may have enough dmg if I timed my burst so I only burst with HelmT once at the end for the dot dmg.

but too lazy to mald. later then.

barely enough dmg

[tropic summit]

tbh i don't think 30seconds are enough to update teams layout

i think you should realistically aim for 1 or 2 minutes

[swift mango]

I guess would be easier if I could iframe the stones.

[tropic summit]

but as i told you before, if he's able to make those teams we saw on def, you're not shaking him off

[marble saddle]

yeah ik. its always a chance.

until i get my PVP units a bit better i dont see a solution

[tropic summit]

the thing is

even if you do get better pvp units... you're not winning def

you're on near same invest, attacker always win

it's a war of attrition, the one who gets tired will eventually give up

[ruby iris]

even uninvested rosanna is the goattt

[marble saddle]

yeah but unlike him i can take the other way out

[tropic summit]

oh which is?

[marble saddle]

[tropic summit]

ah naruhodo

now that's indeed a secret final weapon

[marble saddle]

ofc itll depend on the next bracket shuffle

until then imma bide my time and play tug of war

[cedar sorrel]

@tropic summit yooo this team in rookie arena was going crazy it gets burst so fast

[tropic summit]

yep, speed matters a lot

[cedar sorrel]

Thanks for putting me on

[tropic summit]

take this chance to practice, try at first on your own then ask for help if you can't figure it out or want to know where you went wrong, always record

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit just out of curiosity

to reach Emillia 25% CS id need 12% CS from OL stats?

[tropic summit]

check the CS% you earn from s1 then add the remaining via OLs

[marble saddle]

13.01% from S1 which is why i assume 12% from OL stats unless theres some other formula

[tropic summit]

ye correct then

3 lines of CS% 4.x will do

[marble saddle]

so right now i should be 21% CS so need 4% more

[tropic summit]

quantum is not adjutant

adjutant can give you 2%CS, quantum values does not increase CS%

[cedar jackal]

what are my other 2 units in this team

[tropic summit]

it's situational

[marble saddle]

yes ik. im saying 4% more CS needed from OL gear

[cedar jackal]

lets say for an all around team

[tropic summit]

there's no such thing, it's either

indom scarlet
stun pressure scarlet
rosanna scarlet
double buff scarlet (glass cannon)

[craggy pier]

Ive been putting Siren on my scarlet team in slot 4, she stuns Noah

[marble saddle]

they can bypass that by putting their noah on p5

[tropic summit]

oldschool scarlet with linked noise p1 has been powercrept so don't even bother

[tropic summit]

considering your invest, run stun pressure scarlet

jackal siren scarler trina vestiTU

vestiTU will add pressure on p1 p2 p3 and against wind codes

[cedar jackal]

my vesti TU is like least built but ill try it

[tropic summit]

then don't, run lib or drakeT or helmT in p5

[cedar jackal]

okie

like this?

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit one last question then ill get out of your hair.
should i also be aiming for 4 atk stats on Emillia? or is that just a bonus

[tropic summit]

jackal siren scarlet trina helmT

siren in p2 allows you to stun noah in any position she's ran

[cedar jackal]

arigato

[tropic summit]

de nada

[craggy pier]

Trina makes Scarlet invulnerable for a few seconds so i keep her in s1

[placid bloom]

I am using Jackal Scar Nayuta Vesti to kill at B2

don't need B3

[craggy pier]

I see alot of champ arena using Soda with scarlet team, she stuns 2 opponents but havent tried

[tropic summit]

if scarlet is p1 with more than 60% ammo OL she can be stunned, hence why it's prefered p2

if you've less than that you can keep her p1

(you'll be reloading and in cover when siren stuns)

[craggy pier]

Ohh thanks!

Guys I feel dumb for asking this having a pretty high lvl but do we set DEF team with our burst order reversed? Guides really confused me early on

[placid bloom]

no, always left to right

[craggy pier]

Omg i cant believe ive been doing that, im still top 10 haha

[cedar sorrel]

Do u have particular def teams or can u just use ur rookie arena/t1 team

[half grail]

I need help I’ve been losing my first team now and he’s only 1-2 level below me, his Cindy been staying alive now and killing my VesTac

This my units btw

Sorry I didn’t know music was playing lol

[craggy pier]

Man those cores 👌

[tropic summit]

post the 3 enemy matchups, might want to avoid using indom vestiTU against biscuit stalls

can change the approach and correct this

[half grail]

I’ll go type it out I’ll look

[cedar jackal]

what are these people doing

😭

[half grail]

Team 1 : Noise, Noah, Rumani, Biscuit, Cindy
Team 2 : Emilia, Bunny Soda, Noir, Blanc, Rosanna
Team 3 : Scarlet, Little Mermaid, Trina, Helm, Jackal

These my enemy teams

[tropic summit]

oh oke this is doable then

[half grail]

I was trying all kinds of teams but I don’t know

[tropic summit]

what's your vestiTU CS% for reference?

oh actually won't even need CS%, they're 2.5RL on cindy

[half grail]

I have 2 lines with CS but not blue or black lines and she’s triple 10

[covert lintel]

Change noah's position to p4 and rumani p2
You would win that

[tropic summit]

run these, you're on the left

[half grail]

Thank you I’ll go make the team adjustments right now, too much to remember what can counter what so I had to ask

[tropic summit]

these teams gives your vestiTU the time needed to melt them slowly, while ensuring your T3 can catch safely scarlet's nuke and avoid siren's stun

[covert lintel]

And team 1 doesn't need rapun, use b1 buffer

[tropic summit]

no worries, this is all part of learning

[covert lintel]

That should win 3 easily

[tropic summit]

you've a pretty good box btw, good job on invest

can counter anything with that

[half grail]

Oh thank you I’ve been focusing heavy on pvp lol

Triple 10 lots of them just because 😂

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

Icing my brain cuz brain pain

Ahh the bliss, freedom from pain

[half grail]

Was thinking of triple 10 my Anis but she’s a SR

[covert lintel]

Pvp is for casual player
Pve such as SR is for Malder

[tropic summit]

you calling @swift mango a casual?

[hollow lagoon]

I’m a casual

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[vapid lake]

[swift mango]

I'm a casual brick

[tropic summit]

says the one that predicted delta was gonna be meta

[hollow lagoon]

I mean if u read her skills you would know

The hard part is the reading

[tropic summit]

bold of you to assume the average nikke player reads

[swift mango]

Delta meta?

[hollow lagoon]

Reddit can’t read proper just like how I can’t spell proper

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-confused-look-gif-24835232

[vapid lake]

She is still a skip because she release so close to anni, only whale have resources to pull her

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe we are misunderstanding it, in some places of the world dog poo could be a very valuable thing

[vapid lake]

Normal ppl wont have any use for her

[tropic summit]

you're saying that's why she's looking a bit greyscale in my nikkepedia?

[swift mango]

When did Delta became meta

[late tiger]

we already know what new units we get?

[tropic summit]

oh i wish this was not true

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-i-dont-understand-whats-going-on-question-mark-face-english-gif-5524518684131899531

[craggy pier]

O.G. delta bond story was neat

[vapid lake]

Shes effectively a helm T sidegrade but feeds siren more damage due to being an MG, so in solo raid where siren's dmg is actually relevant u'll gain a bit more dmg

Last sr people that have delta vs peopel that dont have delta did a couple hundred more millions dmg on their crown team depending on how stacked thier siren is

[hollow lagoon]

Idk I saw her and I’m like, I need dis in my harem, then I see her kit, I’m like yep naga is dead

[swift mango]

Where is the meta?

[vapid lake]

Naga isn't dead shiftup just needs to release boss that lets her kit work

[covert lintel]

She just niche

[vapid lake]

She just downgraded from meta to niche

[placid bloom]

none of the proc based attacker other than Rapi can hit core with their proc is the issue

[tropic summit]

e.g. a boss with a very abusable core

[placid bloom]

it only really works for sniper

because they have fat charge attack mod

[hollow lagoon]

she’s almost as good (9/4/4) as helmT(10/10/10) even if siren is ele neutural, of course I have a very strong ele neutural siren

[placid bloom]

and can pierce

[vapid lake]

Boss must have perm core or pierce core + your dps must have their dmg mainly come from auto attacks not procs

Last raid it didnt make that big of a difference because asuka, siren and rei all have their dmg come from procs mainly

If the boss had no core then delta would've pulled ahead much higher

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

main issue with Delta is just that you need to pull her

[swift mango]

Helm is double as burst 3 that's why she is meta in campaign and Arena. Not just because of her buff

Again, what's meta about Delta? Isn't she just niche for some solo raid?

[hollow lagoon]

Perma core dosnt matter, last raid was perma core and naga is not as strong, su need to release non proc units, because currently the ones that matter are just Alice and RH, maybe sw and Maxwell

[vapid lake]

It's not that simple

[placid bloom]

well there are char that have good core damage, but a lot of them also buff their own core dmg like QEQ

[hollow lagoon]

It is that simple

[placid bloom]

[hollow lagoon]

Most dps units these days are proc based

Even B milk proc distributed

[placid bloom]

BMilk can do okay core damage, like every other sniper

[hollow lagoon]

Yes

[placid bloom]

[hollow lagoon]

But she’s still not taking full advantage of naga buffs

[placid bloom]

what we need is MG that only buff their own Atk and atk dmg, and not proc

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah like crown chime

[placid bloom]

[hollow lagoon]

[placid bloom]

how you fit Naga onto Crown Chime team

[hollow lagoon]

I donno Wouldent work

Prob Modernia

And no cdr

So it’s single burst cycle

Wait still need cdr to bring Modernia cd down

Can’t win

Basically with ninja delta we have 5mg comp as a thing now

[placid bloom]

well there is no burst gen without Mermaid

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah but there’s no way ur not running mermaid

Well not 5mg

I guess better just call the Dakka Dakka

https://tenor.com/view/dakka-tabletop-dungeoneers-discord-orcs-irks-gif-22814163

That last raid was so funny, the queen does the floaty and I just keep shooting and the burst gen and damage proc keeps going

[swift mango]

People talk Delta meta bs but can't even get more dmg than this none delta guy.

[craggy pier]

I was holding off the raid till i got Nayuta 3 starred, got her and the raid had ended😵

[hollow lagoon]

Problem with the non delta guy is he can get more dmg with delta

[swift mango]

Why do he need more dmg when he already top 5 in SEA.

[hollow lagoon]

Not top 1

[placid bloom]

he should aim for #1 in the world

[glad meteor]

Helmt instead of mg is just losing dmg though

[placid bloom]

his goal too low

[swift mango]

Are you having more dmg than him though.

[hollow lagoon]

Give me his account and delta I’ll show u more damage

[glad meteor]

that doesnt change the math and theory building

[hollow lagoon]

[placid bloom]

he should represent his server in race to be the most powerful player in the world

[cedar sorrel]

I didnt lose 1 game in pvp with these updated teams is everyone just bad at pvp or

[swift mango]

Yes, but a little more dmg for Siren in a wind weak raid is just niche, not meta.

[hollow lagoon]

Lucky shuffle

[cedar sorrel]

Im now t36 from like t68 so thats cool

[glad meteor]

Yeah, delta is niche

[swift mango]

If she is meta, dude won't be top 5 in SEA without her.

[glad meteor]

boo sea server

[swift mango]

Well, 28b+ doesn't matter server. How many people get this with delta?;

[hollow lagoon]

Blood how long have you played

[swift mango]

Enough to tell Delta is niche and not meta

[hollow lagoon]

I asked for time not your monologue

[swift mango]

6 month more than you ofc. Then you said you have better score than me because you have Delta then? It's simply not true.

You will have better score than me Delta or not.

[hollow lagoon]

What is your score

[swift mango]

11.8b

If you start seeing delta every single raid then she would be meta. If not she is just niche.

Here is top 1 in SEA. Also no delta. Now tell him he should try better for top 0.

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

“In sea”

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-i-sea-sea-ocean-water-gif-20901308

[glad meteor]

I guess whales dont need to metagame too hard in sea

[swift mango]

He is 2b above the 2nd whale who max core everyone and used delta.

[glad meteor]

But hes obviously losing dmg using naga instead of xlud/delta

But it doesnt matter

Its sea server

[craggy pier]

Is there a better way to screenshot our rosters? I have some pvp questions lol

[swift mango]

Idk. How many people in this game can get to 30+b?

[vapid lake]

Switch to landscape mode and screenshot

[tropic summit]

start with the questions, maybe you don't need to share scheenshots

[glad meteor]

Thats irrelevant, the point is he can get more dmg if he wanted

[hollow lagoon]

i'm just not wanting to talk about dis anymore, blood's damage is so low its like idk what to say

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

Maybe but that wasn't a big enough amount to the rank 2 with delta to beat the rank 1 without.

[hollow lagoon]

the sync 244 in my union did 9.2b

[glad meteor]

Your just yapping to yap

I’m not falling for this bait anymote

[swift mango]

I keep saying she isn't meta. Not she isn't good to use.

[glad meteor]

And i agreed

[swift mango]

But Zan didn't

[hollow lagoon]

ofcourse i cant agree

have u seen the boobs?

[swift mango]

Idk, we need the booba tier list for this.

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

I remember, Azur Lane has boobs size tier list that update every month.

[craggy pier]

Well i have everyone except emelia and rapunzel, rumani and noise are not invested, bay is maxed out core 2 but keeps dying

[hollow lagoon]

idk,

[hollow lagoon]

its not even about the boobs

she dont need to burst and she still spew her lines about "justice" and that while dakka dakka the queen is peak nikke

[tropic summit]

depends on the matchup, what's ur team and enemy team like? are you in deficit?

[hollow lagoon]

in my brain every time i burst i'm hearing crown saying behold then delta say justice!!

[swift mango]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AzureLane/comments/1kmduy0/new_azur_lane_breast_tier_list/

Yeah people still make this tier list even after years.

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-tia-explosion-goddness-of-victory-boom-gif-10356743037255363170

[tropic summit]

where's taihou

[craggy pier]

Ill get some screenshots and come back in a bit, thanks for the reply!

[swift mango]

Tier 0, 2nd from the left.

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

mm i think i can sync up today

in an hour

[tropic summit]

how's the korean lad doin'

[hollow lagoon]

catching up

[tropic summit]

is he still threatening your throne

[hollow lagoon]

yes since i stopped buying dust

[tropic summit]

oh boy the revolution appraoches still

[tropic summit]

dafuq why did you stop? sobering up?

[hollow lagoon]

mom wanted me to go to where she live -$700 for plane ticket

[tropic summit]

real life

you're in disadvantage then

[hollow lagoon]

yes

[tropic summit]

koreans don't generally have much real life

[hollow lagoon]

i have 100 sync buffer

ill manage

[swift mango]

No one beat the cow girl on cup size, okay?

[hollow lagoon]

but if it gets to 80 its back to dust buying

[tropic summit]

holy cow

[hollow lagoon]

mmmmmmmmmmmm red shoes?

[tropic summit]

eagerly waiting for when cindy finds out "red shoes" is alive

[hollow lagoon]

nope redshoes is smoler

[hollow lagoon]

that aint real redshoes, its just cindy's vomit given sentience

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Kashino is basically the most popular Elite character in Azur Lane. 3 L2D skins. And she is basically useless in game play.

[tropic summit]

i wonder why she's popular

[swift mango]

2 big reasons

[hollow lagoon]

speaking of popular and useless 2b~

[swift mango]

Plus she is a cow. So fitting with those reason.

[hollow lagoon]

Guilty is similar size, shoulder width relative to boob width

[vapid lake]

We got a gemmer here

[mint kite]

Yeah

[swift mango]

Nikke have chest size tier list but not one know the actual cup size like Azur land.

Kashino skin has the biggest chest with 131cm. For example.

[hollow lagoon]

Idk man Ade is in the massive

[tropic summit]

took him a while at least

change the def before taking him on again, post your current def and your box we can change things around

[hollow lagoon]

Oh delta you hid them good

[swift mango]

Well, that kind of character switch has been since Azur Lane.

[hollow lagoon]

Chest plating=more def

[keen vapor]

I'm stupid and I can't do a Kisama for my banner

[tropic summit]

Romaji
kisama

Japanese (kana)
きさま

Japanese (kanji)
貴様

[keen vapor]

[covert lintel]

I thought I could clear all the way with my emi but then levi show up to check my dps and heal

[swift mango]

In Nikke, we have different body to switch into. In Azur Lane it's real Britain Noble Lady who is good at hidding her chest.

[hollow lagoon]

I’m just chilling at tower 900

And my will power for chapter 40 is like zzzzZZzZZz a Z

[swift mango]

Well, Ade bunny is, not Ade maid

[hollow lagoon]

Ade maid is big, just deceptive because of clothing

[covert lintel]

I'm chilling too
I just do tower whenever my credit is empty

[hollow lagoon]

I do tower when I feel like I could use some blue tickets

[swift mango]

Defend. I would call this deceptive. But Ade maid look fine.

Not much to hide

[hollow lagoon]

The orbs looks around the size of her head

The boob width is almost her shoulder width

[tropic summit]

run these next and lemme know how it goes

T2

quantum jackal, centi, laplaceT
temperance scarlet
vigor blanc

T3

temperance rumani, noah
vigor noise
vesti adjutant
emi adjutant

[swift mango]

Her head is kinda smaller than Cocoa

[mint kite]

No Quantum anywhere?

[tropic summit]

added, #pvp-arena message

[hollow lagoon]

Cocoa head is also smoler than rei

[swift mango]

Well, Nikke is half AI creation so body proportions may not be well made.

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

One NIKKE has the cp of my entire squad

[swift mango]

Well, at least my whole team could beat his lone RH in Arena. Still deficit though.

[tropic summit]

what a milestone... hurray for all the money threw into this

[late tiger]

to be fair, he is funding this game for us

idm him pouding me in arena

[tropic summit]

he's giving a positive message to the dev to continue milking the player base, correct

[mint kite]

Emi has 10%, Vesti has 8%, Noah has prio without adjutant

[tropic summit]

that's fine

give noise taunt priority though

[mint kite]

What's the adjutant for?

[tropic summit]

just to mess with CS% if he's relying on timing

[mint kite]

How?

[swift mango]

Give extra 2% cs

[tropic summit]

OL CS% 4% on noah

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna put adjutant on scar

[late tiger]

you prob can´t keep him hooked with story, so that´s the reason why we get so much plot

[mint kite]

2% from cube isn't enough?

[tropic summit]

that's copium i wouldn't rely on it he just needs to mess with positioning

4% is ensuring you're on noise taunt priority regardless of positioning

[mint kite]

We're hoping that -2RL on T2 is enough to deal with the drop in CP?

[tropic summit]

what's the CP like on the 3 teams now?

[mint kite]

It's be easier to roll the charge speed off of Noise 😭

[tropic summit]

that's a waste i wouldn't

just give noah 4%CS on any piece you can roll easily

[tropic summit]

so CP pad can gap up to 1075kk

[tropic summit]

scar and noah team look plenty in range

you can retake ch4, see how these def do

[mint kite]

Gained 1 sync level since yesterday

tomorrow I made poor use of my tokens today

[obsidian tangle]

question: if I place my team like this is there any chance of my scarlet not geting indom?

[tropic summit]

who's linked with scarlet there? it's ideal to have at least 1 attacker with her

e.g.

jackal scarlet blanc trina laplaceT/drakeT

[obsidian tangle]

trina is the highest attacker after scarlet

[tropic summit]

blanc should also be away from p2

[tropic summit]

trina can mess up scarlet indom aswell due to increasing her max hp

bench trina for a clip SG burst gen tier unit

[obsidian tangle]

if I do that it won't be 2rl tho

[tropic summit]

pick any of these that is well invested to go with it

[tropic summit]

with scarlet you can be 91-95% to 2RL it's fine

[obsidian tangle]

scarlet or jackal?

[tropic summit]

example

pick any of the clip SG burst gen tiers above to replace trina and put it p5

[obsidian tangle]

would this be 2rl?

[tropic summit]

ye that's good enough

it will be 2RL via s2 or counters, if opponent is running a non feed 2RL against that team, it has already achieved it's objective

[obsidian tangle]

are the positions fine?

[tropic summit]

use the now free trina in any other team to bring them up to 2RL or 2.5RL

[tropic summit]

jackal scarlet blanc centi drakeT

as i mentioned earlier blanc is best not in p2

[obsidian tangle]

there's no chancee my jackal can be stunned right?

or is there?

[tropic summit]

no, siren contributes enough feed to bring you to 2RL if used against that team

hence why you're running with at least 91%-95% to 2RL

2RL b1 in p1 cannot be stunned in time

[obsidian tangle]

i see

but also, I feel like my Scarlet might not have enough damage to oneshot some teams

should I run trina instead of centi? just to be sure

[tropic summit]

trina needs to burst to give scarlet dmg, she'd be useless

indom scarlet offers a different threat from canonical glass cannon scarlet

they need to stall her out or they can die to her autos

the entire purpose of that team is to make opponent waste

• a bay
• a noah + biscuit
• an indom
• a rosanna

if you're lucky it's either 2, 3 or 4

[uncut crown]

What does indom mean? Is it the immunity Blanc can receive in battle.

[tropic summit]

an example makes it probably easier, SBS here is "indommed"

[livid prairie]

you still receive damage but you wont die until the indom runs out

[obsidian tangle]

I missed that the skill 2 says when she bursts 🫠 , btw while we are at it I'll show you my other 2 defense teams and let me know if there's easy improvements I could make:

[tropic summit]

left team has single b1 in p1, SG vulnerable, speed is okish
right team is probably skipped or dealt with siren if you're not 11%CS team wide

[gritty ridge]

Hello mr rail

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-maam-its-maam-please-wait-here-gif-13191169

[gritty ridge]

Hello mr ma'am

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/fanning-self-irritated-pissed-annoyed-you-cant-just-assume-gif-12123923

[gritty ridge]

Team-building is yucky rn so I take refuge in here

[tropic summit]

this is 2025 and thus i'm deeply offended

[tropic summit]

how can it be yucky pve is always the same

[gritty ridge]

Every now and again it turns into politics/religion chat

[tropic summit]

crown rrh rh cindy siren alice nayuta sbs helmt naga mmast

take these and re-assemble as needed

[tropic summit]

oh ok that's sounds bad

[gritty ridge]

Yeah lmao

[obsidian tangle]

is there something better I could do instead of that Liberalio team? I'm missing vesti still which sucks

[tropic summit]

liberalio on def is a weak choice if used as main b3, as flex battery/dps is fine

the reason being her nuke takes 1RL to land, which means a noah on 2RL or 3RL can both catch her

[obsidian tangle]

I have trina free now too

[lunar pawn]

thought that was dokibird for a second

[swift mango]

Trina could be better than centi in indom scarlet though.
More burst gen, Make scarlet invincible for 2 second so a bit less likely to die.

[tropic summit]

yes and he's down 1 clip RL for that tiny bit of improvement

he can use trina to get any other team 2RL or 2.5RL instead

[swift mango]

Miss Sir?

[gritty ridge]

Ma'am sir*

[tropic summit]

mister madam helicopter san

[gritty ridge]

We also have hime hime-sama

[uncut crown]

@tropic summit @livid prairie Thanks!

[gritty ridge]

Hime hime-sama-dono

[swift mango]

hmm I remember a character called "prince duke"

The perfect name for a male lead

[placid bloom]

@jagged mesa wtf rich Soline puller

[jagged mesa]

i gave her 2 or 3 multis, and decided to do one last single pull and landed it

[placid bloom]

even 2-3 multi is not worth for me

I just wait, I already got Delta from mold

I will get all these free char sooner or later

[jagged mesa]

in my defense

full SG team archetype is probably my favourite rn, i love themed teams

i was sick of all these non-sg units polluting my sg team

[gritty ridge]

Run the criminal team

Quency sin guilty crow viper

[jagged mesa]

ok idk about that

[obsidian tangle]

for the cindy team, does cindy also need 11% cs for it to be effective?

[tropic summit]

don't think so, probably "only" need noah biscuit helmt rumani

put that team in here and see if they burst before siren, you should achieve something like the attached screenshot

https://nikke.work/

try with

11%CS rumani, biscuit, noah, rumani
8%CS helmT
0%CS cindy

[obsidian tangle]

alright I'll give it a try, thanks 🙂

don't really want to brick my cindy for pve that's why I ask ^^

[tropic summit]

here you go, 0%CS needed on cindy

to make it a bit easier to see

[obsidian tangle]

i just tried to replicate, I think I understand how to use the site now, tyvm 🙂

[livid prairie]

folks how bad is this defense team ?

[tropic summit]

the main problem here is that T2 is overcommited

opponent will noah/bay T1, skip T2, indom or stall T3 (RH as main B3 is a bad choice)

[hollow lagoon]

lib b3 is mroe threat

[tropic summit]

not even, that team is dead on 2RL, lib lands at 3RL

as it lacks anti nuke or anything to survive

[hollow lagoon]

i mean

it can still trick peopel to waste something on it

cope is cope

[livid prairie]

maybe people wont attack me out of pity with it

[tropic summit]

jokes aside @livid prairie aim for 1 indom 1 stall 1 glass cannon

jackal team doesn't need to be natural 2RL, can aim for 91-95% to 2RL

[hollow lagoon]

the younger brackets donno how to deal with slow cindy proper its a cheap and easy indom to set

[tropic summit]

oh i guess there's that too if they're not used to run scarlet or lib

[livid prairie]

well i found people running very old team in my bracket and the thing is it's not young at all

[hollow lagoon]

if old team i run old ass teams that's worse than yours

but then i'm the equivalent of cp pad

[livid prairie]

maiden viper privaty pepper drake

[hollow lagoon]

oh that;s very easy very dead

[livid prairie]

also running old stall team

noah rapunzel s.anis biscuit noise

[hollow lagoon]

depends on ur placement

[livid prairie]

i started a battle accidentally

[hollow lagoon]

if ur low maybe ur just fighting prydwen readers

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit can you build me indom vesti, scar rosa, and moran noah with no x.maid or t.lap

[hollow lagoon]

ur jackal or rumani or centi have 15 cs?

[gritty ridge]

Nah

[hollow lagoon]

vesti have cs?

[gritty ridge]

My vesti will have 18% soon

[hollow lagoon]

good nuff then

[tropic summit]

done, no xmaiden or lapT

[rustic sandal]

I need a halfway decent rookie arena team. I'm getting dogged.

[gritty ridge]

Rail...

[tropic summit]

post your box and your current rookie def

[gritty ridge]

Why quantum bisc and not noah

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gushing-over-magical-girls-maho-shoujo-magical-girl-surprised-disturbed-gif-13120696653143240502

[hollow lagoon]

donno its enuf noah on different cube can last longer

[rustic sandal]

I have new faces.

Still no meta PvP focused Nikkes.

[hollow lagoon]

there now u make 2rl

[gritty ridge]

Yippee

[tropic summit]

i can't see invest like this, take a screenshot of your nikke from "Nikke" section in the main menu

[jagged mesa]

is it already known here that nayuta hp recovery distribution works on all sources not just herself?

if not does that play into any other sustain-based pvp teams

[tropic summit]

she does not, nayuta is B2, if you bursting with her there's no anti nuke and the entire team is wiped

her sustain mostly trivial in pvp scenarios

[hollow lagoon]

bay anti nuke on vesti it seems with SG as batteries?

[jagged mesa]

she doesnt need to burst for the hp redist

[hollow lagoon]

dont think u can properly pull off a mechanic maybe just cp pad

[tropic summit]

try this

[rustic sandal]

Aight. Thank you.

[hollow lagoon]

if u invest vest u can replace drake

[tropic summit]

too low CP at 140 synchro

he needs to use campaign units for the most part

[hollow lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1432086510177620100/ezgif.com-combine_1.gif

just sync up more

[rustic sandal]

Uh. I'm at the 140 hurdle. Can't jump through it yet.

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge i still don't get what you meant?

[hollow lagoon]

prob no emilia

[rustic sandal]

I already cleared Chapters 19N and 4H.

[tropic summit]

but he said lapt and xmaiden

[hollow lagoon]

i know

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

i'm just saying

[tropic summit]

he's gonna need to nuke speed on either of the 3

i guess nero noah can be 2.5RL with multiple B1s

[crystal flicker]

It's 2RL comp with very high CS

[rustic sandal]

This is the current top 1.

[hollow lagoon]

if i ask rail to make me the most killy rookie team for my bracket

[crystal flicker]

Y'all really never sleeps from 3am to 8am jst and y'all still crafting team there

[tropic summit]

it's 00.00AM here

my sleep time is in a few hours

[hollow lagoon]

6:33pm

i sleep aroun 9pm

what's this scrumptious thing that nikkes always use

[tropic summit]

that's surprisingly earlier and healthier than i expected from you

[hollow lagoon]

i wake up 4am

[tropic summit]

for work?

[hollow lagoon]

no

i just prefer it

[gritty ridge]

I dont have emi either

[tropic summit]

ez

[rustic sandal]

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/kita-bocchi-the-rock-kita-ikuyo-clap-happy-gif-10036180577568127404

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/witchcraft-hunchback-of-notre-dame-frollo-animated-gif-19403567

[rustic sandal]

Oh great. Everyone else after that are whales.

[tropic summit]

ch8 ch7 and ch6 all?

[crystal flicker]

He making sure he gets enough sleep and wake up without tiredness, just like baby. - Yoshikage Zantarath

[gritty ridge]

The humble t3 that doesnt work

[tropic summit]

as in?

[gritty ridge]

No second cycle

[tropic summit]

but you asked for that team

[rustic sandal]

Just 6.

[tropic summit]

hit him quick

[hollow lagoon]

the one i gave u wont work either for second cycle but u can just lib nuke insted

[rustic sandal]

Lemme try.

[tropic summit]

show their teams

we can make a counter

[tropic summit]

ok he doesn't have helm treasured yet at least

[rustic sandal]

I say, each of them definitely has minimum investments.

[hollow lagoon]

they are not good with positioning ill give you that much

[rustic sandal]

At least T7-T9M gears, probably even a few OLs.

They wasted a lot of resources though by not using synchro.

Oh wait I'm a dumbass

It doesn't show if it's synchro. It's just white.

I'm so dumb I make Bahamut smart.

[hollow lagoon]

hay

bahamut is smart

who elese here can read book upside down

[livid prairie]

people here can't even read nikke kits and you want them to read a book upside down

[hollow lagoon]

which proves how intellegient bahamut is

[rustic sandal]

Bask in that intelligence.

[tropic summit]

you're kinda screwed... BUT... there's a remote chance, assemble these teams and show CP

(you're on the left)

[hollow lagoon]

reminder that pool of dark matter has white vapaus in it

[tropic summit]

[rustic sandal]

Bruh. You're kidding...

[hollow lagoon]

reminder lib also went into the pool

[tropic summit]

well i always wanted to have a baby lib

she must be adorable

[hollow lagoon]

i'm sorry did i spoil u

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-liber-nikke-nikke-liber-liberalio-liber-sleep-gif-14371478499134560899

[livid prairie]

the famous white vapaus

[rustic sandal]

Nah. I already finished story.
I already know that these four freaks did to the Commander. Extracting it with a needle. Bro just use your hands.

[rustic sandal]

Where Team 3? Just auto?

[tropic summit]

start by showing the CP because it's probably over before it starts

you facing this:

[crystal flicker]

THey have the tattoo, just use their special parts.

[tropic summit]

21% deficit yeah, don't even bother

save your attempt if they attack you 👍

[crystal flicker]

You're too weak, despite being in their CP range

[rustic sandal]

Sad.
Aight. I'll just defend my post.

[trail pond]

what does the RL number mean in the burst gen calculator and what number do I want

[livid prairie]

guys 40% deficit is it cooked ?

[rocky creek]

I'm kind of struggling against this good team setup. I can't use Noah because the shield doesn't last as long as all the missile hits from vesti. I don't know if a nuke team would ram up against centi's shield. Any ideas?

[tropic summit]

supah ded

[tropic summit]

run

noah biscuit helmt laplaceT siren
or
noah biscuit helmt vestiTU siren (if vestiTU is 8%CS)

[rustic sandal]

Well, it's too early to be investing on PvP units. That guy I'm trynna challenge is a whale.

[tropic summit]

the important bit here is that with blanc p1 you can stun her and prevent them from indomming while you nuke link

[livid prairie]

forgetting about cp deficit does shotgun beat it, or do you go slow lib ?

[tropic summit]

what do you mean? 40% deficit you hit for 1 damage

[livid prairie]

i mean without the deficit

[tropic summit]

several methods based on what you've, since it's a noah without biscuit it's weak to

noah trina rapunzel biscuit vestiTU

[crystal flicker]

It's how many times Rocket Launcher shoots their ammo before you can burst
The cloesr to 1RL, the better
3RL is standard comp
2RL is proper meta comp
1.5RL is peak comp with max charge speed
1RL is meta comp with enemies' help

[rocky creek]

Good idea. I have all the pieces except my vesti has no investment in her yet. Would scarlet work as a sub?

[rustic sandal]

There even deficit? I'm crying.
Just let me run a fair fade.

[tropic summit]

do you've any of the following:

laplaceT
emilia

[rocky creek]

crap I don't have either one of those

[tropic summit]

show me your box, first 4 lines is enough

[trail pond]

I kinda slapped together whatever I could and I am pretty sure these comps are not very good

[tropic summit]

assemble this team and show CP (you're on the left)

[crystal flicker]

Last comp is somewhat working, the other 2 just ass

[trail pond]

one team that kinda works is more than I was expecting

the problem is this guy who I haven't been able to beat and I don't know how

[tropic summit]

oke looks like you're range, last nitpick then you good to go

change to: noah trina helmt biscuit siren

cubes:

temperance: noah, trina, helmt
vigor: biscuit
siren: any

[rocky creek]

alright i'll try that and see how it goes

[tropic summit]

yep record if you can, we can find out if they're running weird CS%

[rocky creek]

I'll have to record tomorrow because I ran out of battles on that fight. My helm does have ~11% CS so she's pretty good. Hopefully it will be enough. Thanks for the advice

[crystal flicker]

Siren and Nuke
Nuke
also Nuke

[trail pond]

heres the nikkes I have but I have a drop off where past like the litter/blanc area my cp goes from 32-50k to like 17-20k and after sora my cp drops again to like below 14k

[tropic summit]

the good news, opponent teams are very slow and rather vulnerable

[crystal flicker]

You have Scarlet and you're not building Trina

[trail pond]

these are really the only nikkes I have been building because I don't really have the resources to focus on anyone else rn

[tropic summit]

assemble these teams and show CP

(you're on the left)

[crystal flicker]

Won't RH be better CP wise?

[tropic summit]

i'd rather have lib on 2RL

it's already lethal on single buff

[trail pond]

here are the 2 teams

[crystal flicker]

Last night I have match Lib vs Stall, and my stall won
Why the hell I lose last CA smh

[tropic summit]

lib's team on deficit

guess we gonna need to sub drake or centi afterall

well there goes the 2RL amen

just gonna indom it instead for safety measure

[tropic summit]

change them to this

[trail pond]

here are the drake and centi

[tropic summit]

the blanc in T3 is poli btw forgot to swap

[crystal flicker]

Did you unlocked Anomaly INtercept?

If so, you can OL that

[tropic summit]

it's fine can do with just swapping around

he needs all the gear for campaign anyway

[trail pond]

here they are and also my ol gear is only going to my 5 most invested units so far bc I don't have the credits or the materials rn

[tropic summit]

yep looks good, you can run these against their respective teams as in the screenshot

lib blanc rh centi jackal **vs **centi ein biscuit rh alice
nayuta poli vestiTU biscuit rumani **vs **scarlet drakeT anchorIM siren SBS

[trail pond]

Thanks so much for the team I beat them and heres the video (my computer potato so lots of lag)

https://youtu.be/jZ5rq0xsvNM

[trail pond]

are these good general teams or just good in this specific matchup

[tropic summit]

nah they were tailored for this matchup, they're OK but not great on defense

[trail pond]

I will ask for help tmr for the #1 spot but I think they are a big whale so chances are probably slim

[trail pond]

actually my chances are very slim bc their total cp is 580k and with my highest 15 cp units I come to 504k

[crystal flicker]

Your issue is you don't have PvP investment, I attack this guy underdeficit and still won because I have some investment

2nd team fail to wipe due to deficits too high

[trail pond]

yeah I know but I am already spread thin trying to level my 6 main pve nikkes let alone anyone else

like only my nayuta has 4 pieces of ol gear

[untold brook]

random question for anyone with input but, for the nero moran stalls teams... im deciding on weather to go for the mana variant or the standard quiry setup. since ive heard people are saying quiry is falling off a bit due to newer meta units countering her.
i guess my question would be would quiry still be better overall?

[onyx scaffold]

biscuit and blanc are best

[umbral belfry]

bully

[onyx scaffold]

🐳

[gritty ridge]

Nero moran standard comp is slowly getting knocked out of meta. T.lap or liberalio are my reccomendations

[untold brook]

hmm ok, what do libby teams normally consist of? they are different than cindy teams right? or is libby just a better cindy team?

[onyx scaffold]

moran noah helm lib rh but the bursting b3 can be either helm or lib

[oak hatch]

Does jackal burst before siren stun at 2.5 rl?

[onyx scaffold]

no without CS

[untold brook]

any specific reason RH is used? just a flex burst in case of deaths?

[onyx scaffold]

to beat stall moran nero or noah

helm with good burst gen allows u to go for 2nd burst

[untold brook]

ah ok makes sense

[onyx scaffold]

rh can do b1 and b2

[oak hatch]

U mean the team wide 11% right