#pvp-arena
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What are you talking about, CA don't care about your level
you'd be surprised how often lower sync players beats higher sync / commander level. not that it matters in CA either way
I beat whale with C7 everything lol
Player level, it means they’ve played quite some time longer than me so much more investments
People just always assumes 'higher commander / sync level wins' 
that's true. but that doesn't mean it's an instant loss for you
but there's no doubt they likely have higher investments due ti more time played
but things like having enough investments (such as charge speed for example) can make the difference or get lucky in matchups
knowing which CA teams are 'meta' helps a lot too
You don't have to make 5 "Good" comps
like one comp with Nayuta already counter every Single-Target Burst
Then add comp with AoE Nuke and decent gen
Then SG comp
Yeah guess I can try to build some solid teams and put my characters like soda to use there, still missing key characters like cindy, sbs, blanc and thelm tho which makes it really tough
oh oof no treasure helm 
One copy away 

Lacking quite a few of those that does aoe
Hime won several CA before, she can cook for you
but I only won 1 
I do consistently get top 8 though 
but I will say not having key units like you said makes it very hard though
which isn't any fault of your own ofc
Winning one is insane already 
You should just post what you have
I have VentiTU does that count?
F too many attachments 
you can post max 3 or 4 pics at a time
vesti 
Missing like half the roster
at first glance there's def potential, but missing out key pvp units (or just CA units as a whole) makes it very very hard to win currently
especially helmT just for the sake of burst gen
Could I get advice on a Rookie matchup perhaps? 
but like I said that's no fault of your own, just rng 
Surely no one gonna run Stall comp with HelmT 

what is it 
Yeah that’s why I didn’t bother with CA, gonna wait for some more characters then try there
This team may be giving me a hellish pulverizing 
hmmm
Soda/Siren Blanc
will try, thanks for the recommendations
yeah I was gonna say (pref) soda to stop noah and then get him (before vesti gets you)
now I go bore myself with surface 
Hippo n I tried Siren, died before stun 
if you placed her p1-p3 v vesti that's a no no
you were asking for it if that eas the case 
indom vesti likely wins too (put blanc p4) - make sure you have decent ammo for that
okie poof 
She was indeed p2 
It looks like a team that can be nuked with Rosanna
ammo on vesti

Mah Vesti 
Kinda like this, Nayuta instead of Nero
Though they're kinda slow, but they should work unless they get hard-countered anyway
We had red names coming here to ask for teams.

Makes sense, they probably don't pvp
Thanks so much for making the teams 
Are our CMs even play the game tho 
I know Amon and Xiaoma (Prev CMs) actually play the game
I'm done too
Just need to form 11 squad
Think I did it wrong 
Thx blood
Ur vesti not jackal linked?
Ur biscuit and noise got linked, you need higher attack on vesti
Wait

Hi retro
These are my current PvP teams who would Vesti TU and/or Nayuta replace if anyone?
Vesti can replace SBS. Try to replace liter with a burst gen tho
Like who?
Nayuta can replace Naga at P1
Rumani mainly if b1
P2 is fine too
P1?
Tbh RH don't really go with Cindy comp
What Cube does Vesti want btw
Oh my god my Noise has 3 ATK OL and ones a blue line 
Jackal link noise
What’s P1 and P2?
Position 1
Ah
But you use Noise so yeah
Ty ElKayJae, you've shown me the error of my ways
Also this what Cube?
Cause I’ve seen no recommendations anywhere online
Depend on your comp, but it's between Quantum or Adjutant for mixmaxing, otherwise just use anything high level to help her dmg
Now is the time to keep your promise. 
Hippo also had a high attack noise problem and she became target for sniping
Or it was biscuit I think
Who would I replace Red Hood with?
I lie

ain't nobody has time for RNGarena 
Burst gen, rumani centi etc
What’s the meta surface team 
didn't you quit 
No 
2 healer teams
1 fire power support team
3 combat teams which 1 tank and 2 DPS
Can do any boss 
I will draft teams later, there are so much shenanigans on this new game 
the fun part of 6 teams is you can afk without controlling them running around to avoid dmg. Just tank it
Grindy surface content 
Lost a boss battle so I'm on 3 day probation while they heal 
yeah, I will remember writing on my guide
- Don't die
You could still get 5 screenshot now. 
I bet you didn't even install hexacode
I did I did! I ran 3 teams and he lived with 5% hp 
Use your daily mission as emergency healing. Quit app if losing to boss. Waiting jail for stamina recovery. Goddessium why so rare? That's all about surface. 
Also I did not know at the start that the nikkes were connected to your sync machine so I ran some level 1s for a couple days
Lv1 nikke feel squishy
Yeah, put your nikke to synchro machine if you use them. 
In the back of my mind "wow these raptures really hate soline" 
Surely endgame surface player can do it, but what about for starting it 
you reach end game to kill boss 
:caught:
I'm 3 levels below them, how do I crack this def?
What's the best SP Arena Def teams can I make? Stuck around Silver
You could try this
Although I'd recommend that you push campaign more
Levels mean a lot in PvP and you could be higher level if you tried
3 healer team to be sure no one die. 
The rest is just yolo.
Soda
It's normal to get stuck, you're sync bricked
@ivory violet @crystal flicker Thanks for the advice! I'll give those teams a shot. Currently stuck in Ch22, so i'll have to figure something. Someone recommended Liter/Nayuta/Crown/RH/RedRapi for Campaign recently, going to go with that
seriously? bunny soda?
Is the 1 sec stun so that the rest of my burst goes off before they can use their Noah and I can get off a burst 3 nuke?
wait it's 2 random units.
Depend on your team speed, but that comp is roughly 2RL
Soda will burst together with Noise, she then will stun both Noise and Noah
Because Noah stunned, their Biscuit will burst instead, and then VesTac
So you don't have to deal with Noah shield, but you still need to survive VesTac and launch AoE Nuke to them
Cindy work best
I can try scarlet trina or cind
how do you know she'll stun noise and noah though
If you put Soda at P1 or P2, she'll get taunted by both of them
taunt draws "randomly"?
Yeh
-# not very random
lol
alright time to invest in soda I guess
good news is she's got one uncap and full manufacturer gear.
...but that's it lol
She just need to survive VesTac's pre-burst damage
she's supporter too. I was hoping for biscuit defend.
You could also copy his Vesti team but use Red Hood as a b1 instead
Might be able to outdmg him. Might save you investing Soda
@tropic summit
Cleared at 488, Ada rock. Now I can move on campaign then open box without the need to actually open box to get to 501. 
40 rocks on Ada to fix 2 of her gear isn't too bad.
she is actually my top 5 CP now. 
top 3 I mean.
Got her some CS along the way. 
First time a black line crit rate fall on the right unit to me. 
will clear some campaign next then open box to get to 501.
Least my lower guy catching up with me.
@leaden marten check spa
Now get 11 more black lines 
scar s2 enough to feed this to 2RL right?
if not I guess I throw a quantum on trina
yeah, quatum is safer
Nah I need 3-4 Ele and 11-12 line on Siren first. 
Wind weak map is good excuse to finally fix Siren.
15 rocks and still not done with one piece.
My Nayuta done in 20 rocks
but bad luck on others
my nayuta needs more rocks but I'm going to worry about lib rolls next
I realized I have no damn rock for neither Nayuta nor liberatio. So I better skip them both
They are no new campaign carrier anyway so I don't need them
yeah they're raid units more so than campaign, but still should both be good
I wonder how much I'll get from 120 rocks on libe 
I think I'm close to 130 on alice and I'm still missing some elem lines
I could see Nayuta been good in campaign. But 100 to 400 rock on her is an investment I don't have. 
I tried her some on my campaign levels and at deficit the lack of crown shield is painful
so you'd still need crown
Use both
She replace HelmT or RH. But the investment I need so she could replace them is something I don't have. 
Best luck 100 rock. Worse luck 400. I don't have that shit.
Better wait for someone like Rapipi who be a carrier even with zero investment.
The comfort of HelmT burst that could tank everything that's not one shot is also something Nayuta cannot do.
Nayuta is basically
Makima+Rem+Mari.
They took 3 burst 2 Collab units and merge into a new unit. 
her heal is nice but it's fairly slow
godsend if you dont have crown and pairs well with sbs distributed dmg, cause she pretty bad at deficit sometimes, but with whole screen aoe from Nayuta it's pretty nice 
That said, I may still get Nayuta just for CA alone.
Get you SBS to 120% Ele and max core. 
is ele even helps when you do off-weakness stages?
i guess it should but never thought about it
If it's not wind weak you use Rapipi or RH or Vesti, even Alice. No one use SBS these days outside of wind weak.

yeah, maybe in a year of more pulls on hard stages towards ch30 i will have more units to have a choice 
Vesti is normal standard unit. You could get her on new year selector.
Rapipi rerun on new year as well.
RH is running right now. 
libe first anyway 
Who knows, she might be carrier
would certainly help my team cause I hate alice, so would pair well with sbs instead, not sure at what she would excel though, but should be good enough for me
Kise's been promoting her since her's kits out

That 130% atk dmg only for 3 seconds and a full burst bonus
That +231% dmg is on boss only. Guess if Rapipi clear the mobs and the boss come she could focus on the boss and let her wipe with that boss bonus kill the mobs.
🫃
I doubt she would be carrier in Campaign mob stage even if her burst work like Ein.
But if her burst works like Ein she would be new SSS tier in Arena.
900% nuke with 180% dmg up is really strong
I am not a fan of using alice with sbs so her doing that instead would be welcome
wonder what activates 5 times means, that it just hits 5 times for 40.5% per charge shot, or per burst/fight?
Okay I derp. Liberalio has 3 second 160% ATK up at full burst, not DMG up. Probably to buff SBS. 
Now it's less chance for her nuke to work like Ein.
If her nuke does work like Ein though. She would be no doubt SSS in Arena.
160% ATK up and 50% dmg up on a 925% ATK nuke. She would replace Cindy on anything not Slow Cindy team.
And kick reiT out of meta
You should said that to @unique wagon 
I did
2 days, no?
The banner is not tomorrow?
She has additional damage it will work not like Ein but like someone else
Isnt tmrw Wesnesday or are you from Australia
If her nuke doesn't work like Ein then: 🚮
Oh yeah, I thought her banner is Wednesday lol
I mean, they could word it as "at the begin of burst phase 3" like Cindy if they wanted the Nuke to work with 160% ATK buff. Rather than go the round about way and make her burst work like Ein. 
But who knows, SU make many derpy things.
To make a parallel, Scarlet is 880% Nuke with 160% dmg buff from Trina and 69% ATK buff from self.
Next SP reset is reshuffle right?
Probably yes, be ready to welcome 10+ max core whales into your bracket

I already have 3, 7 more won't hurt 
1700 gem per 2 week would hurt.
As well as not getting into CA ever
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<@&946725432554836008> activate nuclear launch code
I thought so as well
it's around reset tomorrow I thought
I think the 94 free pull accord this Anniversary would give me 1 SSR at least. Or 4 by statistic right? 
100 pulls - 0 SSR - it happens 
It did.
for EU it is, her banner is up after update at 06th 5am UTC +9, for most of EU it's still a night of 05th
yeah makes sense
oh oke you haven't been slackin' too much 
nobody asked you 
🐳
in reference to your box: #pvp-arena message
- t1 skip
- t2 noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani (ensure you're not on deficit)
- t3 jackal sbs xmaiden blanc laplaceT (ensure you're not on deficit, SBS needs to be lowest max HP between jackal SBS and laplaceT)
alternate t3 if you need the CP but you need to ensure whoever is linked is in p5
- jackal sbs drakeT blanc laplaceT (if laplaceT and sbs are linked, SBS needs to be lowest max HP between jackal SBS and laplaceT)
- jackal sbs laplaceT blanc drakeT (if drakeT and sbs are linked, SBS needs to be lowest max HP between jackal SBS and drakeT)
Got it! Was going to go with Scarlet/Blanc/RH/Centi/Jackal for T3 but Jackal/SBS/XMaiden/Blanc/LaplaceT is good too
oh ye that'd work too, kinda same logic
a good choice 
keep in mind their drakeT, as long as you've p5 linked, will kick you into 2RL if you're 3RL
which is healthy
nayuta 9s is shorter than 2RL indom
the only demerit of scarlet compared to SBS is that you're stuck on hitting p1, scarlet will still nuke and deal s2 counter dmg but it's a bit more RNGy
SBS bypasses indom as she still hits whole team
both outcomes should be win although
rail! you think its possible for me to beat this guy?
Waiting for SpA final is not that long anymore
cancel it at the last minute
nothing gonna happen trust
you lose due to cp gap alone 
Yes if u open your cd cases like this guy

LOL i dont think i have enough
Rip
you guys know the levels where Core is increased for outpost collection?
Saving for 10th anniversary 
I do
ohh what are the thresholds? im at lvl 498 outpost rn
your sync is 503? U should be able to reach outpost 533 for 102cd/h
ohh thanks!! im gonna have to complete campaign
yeah i havent done the new chapters yet
🧱

🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱
🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱
It's a waste though. He could clear campaign every 20 level.

I did
Doesn't matter
If u have wasted 30
Wasting 1 more doesn't matter
Clearing 32 before 501 so I get a bit more core dusy
Wtf powercreep
opening the boxes are correlated to the outpost level right?
Your sync 503. Push to black snake 36 => open case to 521 to 541 to beat it then push to chap 40 Ziz
normal campaign? im on chapter 41 already
Nobody talks about normal campaign here
Black snake is a b🐍
sheeeshhhh hella high level wtf
He's a whale

something not adding up here
i skipped like maybe 1-2 months in the beginning and the difference is that high???!!
You see, he joined this server last month and already claimed to be 1st day player

I push 4 campaign chapters within 2h after it drops
wait how do i get that 3rd anniversay role
I remember pushing chapter 2 like hell with bugs
Maintenance starts at 10 pm and ends at 5am here
I go to bed at 11pm. Wake up at 4:30 am
Making coffee cup ☕while updating my game
At 7am, all chapters are cleared including hard map
Coffee is overrated
Btw it was milk coffee
Half-approved
LETS GO
Okay go with milk tea instead
Milk tea really depend on the tea fr
I can selfmake milk coffee, not milk tea
One place it taste like heaven, another place it taste like a freakin Oil
Nah. U can buy milk tea steps. Pour some water in and it becomes milk tea without topping
are we gonna talk about his bio
He ntrvEcho

Are you gonna cosplay that pink haired girl

I started this game when map 32 was the lastest map. Now I'm clearing map 33
You're so new
Is it just me or boss 33 harder than boss 32? 
Can't even make a dent on its HP.
THat thing should have special part
You need to destroy the part, otherwise you'll deal very little damage
And how I supposed to destroy it?
Yeah, I just did before you post the pic but still the qte wiped my ass. 
Use pierce dmg and destroy part nikke

Cleared it without breaking both part. Ada once against proven to be OP. 
what is the first "wall" stage players encounter and what team is recommended for it
also what are most "niche" wall stages (ie stages that are easier with some charas but hell with others)
not a channel for that, but there a bunch of stages that you gonna be stuck on, like usually at least 2-3 per chapter, if you still starting out you not gonna have all plethora of units to solve problems differently so you gonna work with whatever best you have anyway, it's not like there only a single solution for some of them also
most niche wall stages are defend flag/dont let enemies pass through the barrier, but they aren't always hard
Ball, bleed, silence, instant death and hit count mobs.
Only hit count could be solved with MG. The rest are "you kill it or you lose"
Silence could be delayed by Siren too.
Same to bleed, HelmT also helps against bleed
There’s artillery wall stages and jellyfish too 
And ofc the infamous farter base defense 
Less of a problem than pre showed mobs that just one shot you
The worst wall
glasses can be solved with blanc burst, i've did some stages like that, you gotta have enough dps to nuke them in 1 burst though 
Nah the artillery ones were worse
i see
Pre charge most of the time you can Crown shield and cover
The artillery ones is just nonstop damage
How to crown shield when it one shot before you even burst? Cover can only tank one mob. Some stage had a dozen.
They just don’t show up often anymore after Stormbringer
Idk what stage has a dozen precharge mob, it’s like 3-4 at most 
At higher deficit Blanc won't make a dent
The rest fire after you already FB
It’s still annoying to reset but you can survive them
4 shots enough to kill 2. 
i probably have seen some one shot mobs in the game
i remember one jumping on my screen and my chara dying instanly , then one firing a charged laser beam and killing in one hit
but the most annoying one is the one that chains and stuns the chara
also any tips for mordernia in intercept ex ? how do i deal with her ?
Don’t break wings
Yeah just don't
Force aim at her body after breaking core
i did exxactly that today and she super siayaned on me
i won't do it again
She has no other mechanics
i was successful in destroying the core within a few seconds which saved me from her strong charged stun attack but then she cooked me
Probably the easiest boss
okie
i killed it on laplace+ein before ada released
i will try again tommorow
if i can't do it i will ask here
wait lemme just mock battle now
Sound like his Rapipi issue. Mordernia was easiest EI after Chatterbox
i see
i forget thous easier interceptions exist some times
if beat this guy i will get 1 paid skin
i will buy it
what's ur sync
as a reward
Oh you already beat mirror before ada. 
140 rn and not invested in equipment just unlocked intercept ex
I remember auto it on normal with Scarlet+RH
have rapi redhood?
Not much differeny
yes
u could make it work
can i do a grave litter sbs rapi and alice ? should i add mihara here ?
u have mihara over spec?
yes got her on nayuta banner
no crown?
Should be the reason he lost. Rapipi broke both wings by herself. He should aim down below. 
i don't have her
have nayuta no?
i wasn't using her 
not her too 
grave should suffice anyway
can i use tia naga duo ?
chance u beating it is 50/50 ish
i see
no blanc i will stick with grave then
the point of blanc is to make tia unkillable
Do you have siren? Being too strong is a problem in mordernia. Your unit could normal attack to break both wing between burst.
Limited your DPS options. And manual the strongest one when not bursting. Or use Siren to focus everyone away from the wings
and the boss wil keep shooting tia and u have 10 sec to kill the parts
nah even if you can kill the parts for Alteisen, you will not have enough dps to clear
i don't have siren but i will keep this in my mind , not to aim for wings
anyways people these days, have strong fire unit, back when i started... lel what fire unit kek
Alteisen actually crazy tanky for new player
i see so she is like a tank that becomes unkillable with blanc ...
I only got s9 with Alteisen once
while the dps kills without worry
because the week after I already unlock AI and don't need to touch that shit again 
i got s9 alteisen around the 161/181 ish mark without proper fire units, he can prob manage
Mordernia actually the hardest after you could auto Train
if u can auto train modernia just unexist
tommorow can i ask you again here
u can?
for advice
my strat is blanc tho u dont have blanc
okie will tag you
Help pls @tropic summit
i have her
i didnt have rh either
solves your early ammo issues
okie
That's just because you had Rapipi who could shot at Mordernia jumping around and her rockets. Before that it was hell without a good MG. (Mordernia at least)
nope
rapipi came out after i unlocked ai
Then you should have mordernia.
Or you auto train too late
... maybe i did? but modernia got pink gear after hard mother whale
so can i go litter /(b3)/grave/rapipi/rh?
tbh my starting pilgrims were SBS and Cinderella and both are dogshit at train 
You still do ExI at hard mother whale? 
no
oh shyt it's the traaain
i unlocked AI before i coudl auto any of the ex interception bosses
Use Rapipi burst to quickly kill the far right cannons at start in landscape mode if you on mobile and you are good.
will try to do that
i certainly am a noob rn but I get the strat , destroy the cannot parts and watch out for the red circle
i played against him in the first intercept iirc
since u cant cheese it with taunt+ indom strat, ur make or break is if u can break parts fast enough, u have rapipi and rh intheory u should
well it is the hardest boss for a reason, but new units are kinda strong nowadays
ye
you can actually kill parts reasonably
okie
phase 2 is still really tanky though
u can still have a sacrificial tia to taunt first bits of missiles
s8~9 has like double the HP of s1~7
so even if you survive phase 1 you probably don't have enough dps to s9
until you have some OL
i will do this team then litter / rapipi/ grave/ rh/ (alice/ mordernia/mihara?)
Yeah my early problem. Building Alice early to kill the cannon but only after getting RH could I kill train.
s8 will suffice for now ig , scores should increase after i invest on equipment or other things rn they are all lvl 1
i was told to save resources for nayuta
tbh you will be happy to even s5 this boss 
that's why i was not upgrading the purple equipment

Oooooi...just curious, did the reshuffle of pvp thingies happen yet, or after this round?
this reset
personally feel liek tia is your last spot option but u can always just mock it
u want the thing to not shoot at ur important units,
Appreciated! There goes our groups "easy gems" as i'm assuming i won't get lucky ith 3 afk whales 😄
yes and tia will probably take the damage for them
makes sense thanks
i have pulled 100 times on her
looks like ur faith is found wanting
still no sign . i have 400 mileage rn but free pulling till last day and then exchange probably
u gonna copium free pull in the face of solo raid when u lack wind units kek
then again its best to not try too hard on solo raid on starting account?
but by 174 sync i was clearing to stage 7
i don't have many pulls and winter banners are coming also i know the new year unit gonna be strong asf
44hard soon?
you can clear lv7 SR on anni after 160 wall yeah
the anni units are just that strong
this is a good reference. i will try to follow this for now
units were weaker back then, your standard should be higher
grave not good nuff of a b2 by my standards
so considering lvl 140 sync and the units i have , what would be a decent score
Kraken went from 7 to 8 with just swapping Nayuta in, and Alteisen gets slapped around like Diesels toy train, definetaly a unit worth getting. HAven't really looked into PVP applications, but definetaly a windboon(or boom) on an account.
no
no?
okie
awful
how tf this guy have so many pilgrims on a sync 140
The slappy slaps destroy the missiles 😄
yep
this exactly
i am a noob who got lucky

I got pretty lucky when i started out, i think i got 1-2-3 burst pilgrims in, first two weeks? Although, i did start right as re:zero started, so had some extra pulls too.
nice
And then it took 2 years to get red hood, but that's a different story XD
let's see what can i do tommorow , i will probaboly mock battle and share my progress here
Oh no it is broken
tragic
i started out because of ade (agent bunny) , i got grave on day 1 and then her next was mordernia and sbs . after a month i got rapipi,mihara,and rh
Be proud, you held for more than ten attacks
That's a hell of a start for sure 😄
Now I need to counter
i still need to learn how to use them
on different bosses like this one
there is so much i still dk about this game
At least Ade is good. I started on Elegg and keep playing because I like her. But she was not good until this summer version.
Still I used her as main burst 2 until I got Rem.
Does this work?
i feel you , i remember when i started there was a seasonal banner that let us select a chara and get it within a small number of pulls . there was annis summer in there but i chose rupee winter because i had no idea about charas
Very risky. Good luck
What is a not so risky option?
You should be able to win with that CP diff I guess
Ok I'll try since I have 2 tries if it doesn't work then help me come up with a team
You maybe record the video.
In 2 years
Yup won easily
Nice to see Nayuta doesn't do jack. 
Haha his CP is too low I guess and I can heal enough to sustain
So I was sustaining from nayuta + mihara's damage?
Yeah
It worked for the non nayuta/blanc version so I just used it again
Sakura to make the dmg smol for 40 seconds. A bit too Farfetch lol
I didn't change my defense for 5 days also partly because I jumped to 441

i will probably do what i can and be done with it
I wonder 2.5rl team with RH b1+Nayuta could wipe a Scarlet team without Noise.
I can put that for one of my defense
Use that to attack someone 2rl glass cannon scarlet then.
Nayuta+RH+Flex enough to make team 2.5rl without deficit on both side.
This guy doesn't have that haha
Find one in rookie
Synch wise you are fine. But he had much more CP than you. Someone be slacking. 
Look at his cores haha
It's pretty normal. You just didn't have enough CP pad line
Yea I didn't bother to pad all the pvp I just rolled good enough scarlet and Rosanna
This is the reason I'm able to CP gaps my lower guys with just 20 level difference. 
Not many people committed to their units CP.
This is suicide lol I don't think there's any way
Rerolling to CP pad campaign is more important now haha. I need to pad up my mirror container team
you can try
scarlet trina rh centi jackal
noise noah vesti helm laplace
blanc mihara xmaiden biscuit rumani
how much cs do u have on trina centi and jackal?
Will this work?
Trina centi 0 jackal 4.92 haha
it might be a bit risky if ur opponent has cs then
I'm CP gapped also anyway
Nah I'm not really intending to attack him haha just for discussion
@tropic summit redhood got sniped before I can use the skill
noah p4?
perhaps you should commit to T2, the fact you can get rid of the hardest team with slow cindy in T3 is already pretty good
additionally if you're not on deficit, T1 should be doable with double buff scarlet or vestiTU behind a noah biscuit, you'll outDPS
i think you could beat this guy
ye looks good
Lost:( vesti did reload and after that she couldnt hit in time and blanc indom run out
your vesti isn't finished yet right?
2 ammo, 3-4cs%, 2-3atk%, 4OL
Currently no max ammo, i dont remember the cs,3 atk% and ill get the last piece to complete 4th ol today
2 ammo is mandatory
else you're wasting time in indom
nope, 100 lvl difference and well over 15.4% deficit
why did you pass on the SG team tho?
check CP
nayuta can be 4/4/4 0ol for all it matters
I thought 940+ cp wouldve been a problem,for some reason i forgot i wont be in deficit
if anything i also seem to remember their T3 wasn't even 2RL, but taking precautions with biscuit and noah just in case
deficit lifestyle was becoming too normal 
My MC team mostly could use in Arena as well. 
I know for sure Ada is usable in Arena. But not using her now. Same as Siren. Crown could be used a bit on AtK for now.
Darn I tried to boil some water with "iron fish" to drink but maybe I bought a bad version. The water was yellow. And I had a stomach ache for a few hours now. 
Too much iron I guess.
better start drinking regular water
Yellow water = contamination warning.
That color change suggests iron oxidation or possibly other metal impurities. Drinking that water can cause gastric irritation, nausea, diarrhea, or stomach pain — which matches what you’re feeling.
What to do now:
Do not drink more of it. 
Drink clean, filtered water to help flush your system. 
Do you know "lucky iron fish"? 
Back to good old iron pill I guess.
Enough science for the day.
i just learned about it today thanks to you
Apparently Iron Oxide helps with anemic but I guess I just drink too much of it.
This skill looking fun... Too bad only R nikke has it.
they haven't changed their teams, probably
how long did you last?
well damn
i already knew yellow checks at that time, i didn't do it before reset but a good 10 minutes earlier
don't care for rank just wanted to challenge myself if i can hit on 80 lvl difference
they must be like wtf is this guy 😄
ch1 (yellow) took it back in 1 minute, ch2 took a few hours
i think i can beat this guy right?
this looks more doable
ok bet i just dont know what team to use against him
pretty sure you already fought this one
you need 2RL noah or bay for the scar t3
yeah with the wrong team last time haha
i tried fighting him again but i didnt win
just use the exact same approach, it's consistant
oh i guess you getting critted by rosanna then
yeah probably my t2 lost
og vesti?
new one
i dont even have her lol
easier said than done!!
1 pull all you need

can someone help me with this guy pls-pls? (fella finally broke thru just before season ending)
t3 siren the noah and nuke with cindy
debating on seeing if we can just execution squad moran or if she's too tanky
is the only b1 on that team at p1
run these
t1 skip
t2
noah any
biscuit vigor
helmt temperance
alice temperance
rumani any
t3
laplaceT temperance
nayuta any
rh any
trina quantum
jackal quantum
record if you can as i need data on t3
this should beat their t3
can you post your box? i found this one but it's too old
#pvp-arena message
damn i couldnt beat him both lost
their t2 was quick enough to indom the emi
slower indom usually beats faster indom
hmm nayuta damage post B2 is dissapointing
as for T2, you actually got outdamaged even on lifesteal
that's emilia BS for you, guess gonna need to feed ross and survive SGs
fat rip
I'd just run a 3RL indom on rapi or similar
run w/e hippo is cookin', thanks for sharing nayuta matchup 
what would that be like?
oh T2 btw is fixable if you invert helmT and alice
just noticed blanc wasn't killed
ok ill try that after reset
as for T3 can probably remove noah and rotate her
this t2?
for the emi team
biscuit protects your p5 from the sg's
if you both successfully indom then rapi wins by default here
check who links please in a mock battle, I suspect it might be jackal biscuit and rapi
this will get you a win as we now know their estimate on T2 from SR pressure
but do run hippo's teams, keep this if it fails 
note: it's last day of season and SPA reset
today
my only concern on my one is ros sniping rapi but she's linked, might be fine 😄
oh hmmm then maybe its not worth the 100 gems? the points are accumulated right?
ros breaks link at 1RL
you think dead rapi likely?
not worth gemmin
unless you want to for science
science has it's own value
LOL ill save it for when reset happens ya boi broke

the jackal link right?
havent been keeping up with meta, is nayuta good for pvp?
it doesn't matter anyway really as rail says ros removes link
ahh ok
you can try my version for emi and this one for scar team
may leave you some stuff to send on the 3rd team but banking on 2/3 anyway
any cubes for both team?
it doesn't matter but tempura on p1 is good (like noise here)
maybe tempura on rapi to cope surviving the ros nuke also
generally jackal for quantum
vigor for biscuit
situational unit, wouldn't call her core
the speeds are ok without cubes though
ok got it ill try it next time
ahh ok, im trying to change my defense up a bit but not sure what to use
where is our video tax you just deleted 😄
I'm converting it sou don't need to download mkv file
nayuta is good if you don't have many invested pvp units as she can hold p1
stun + fast nuke teams
indom teams
stalling teams
these will give you the best odds of defending
Good morning friends 
T1 and T2 are decent, vestiTU team is a bit peculiar
@shell hazel how long until we start getting rotated into emi haver brackets 
moran with no backup 
i thought so too but it works XD

but maybe can be better
but ye post your box and can take a look
box?
sorry for not using suggested teams, got help before I could use yours, here is the "tax"
nikkes > sorted by power > image > send
lmao that RH was put at p1 to eat the stun which never happened on t3
so naturally RH all 3 bursts 😄
if you get 3/3 wins it's all good with me not much room for error or rng
ive only been fighting 1 guy for a year and a half and im tired of this grandpa
is this a good team?
poor centi 🙁
glass cannon, dies to noah, indom, rosanna, bay
not bad, not great
i know!
how can I improve it?
i try hard hardest in all modes so im always stretched thin
😭

but shes still usefull!
turn it into indom or add stun
jackal vestitu flex blanc flex (2RL or 2.5RL)
jackal siren scarlet trina flex (2RL or 2.5RL)
right siren will work and for flex would centi or vestitu be better? I assume they both generate the same amount of burst
Is there a team i can use for pvp def set up
@shell hazel can I ask you for some spa defense team hippo ? has been a while on this acc but with sbs and cind now, should be able to get back into CA 
only lacking biscuit for the main pvp units I believe
prefer flex units that do not feed
and ofc help you reach burst gen thresholds
laplaceT, vestiTU, helmT, centi, trina, rumani, xmaiden... etc
I can take a look but it will be after reset, SBS won't really help anymore tbh
taking a look 
she's been relegated out of pvp by t.vesti and s.anis
well she can still work but mainly on attacks 🙂
okie
my vesti is already built so I'm going with that, thanks for the advice it's gonna help alot
take your time, not in a hurry 
damn that's sad 
Anyone?? 
run these 3
jackal vestiTU drakeT blanc centi
noise noah cindy helmt rumani
scarlet ein xmaiden trina rh
woah ein?
thats cool!
okay ill try these out and let you know how it goes
thank you❤️
Genuinely can anyone help rq 
taking a look
SParena
- naga centi cindy rh pepper
- sbs blanc alice noir jackal
- crown s.anis helm siren biscuit
Rookie
- sbs blanc rh s.anis jackal
Notes
- wishlist noah, rumani, trina, scarlet
- get helm treasured asap
- get teams reviewed once the above are available
Idek how to get helm treasured 😭 anyways thanks youu
Max her collection item, bond 30, and you need to gather her treasure item from daily dispatch at outpost
I might not be ready, i need last body of her ig 😔
You know those box only gave you random treasure item 
Wish me luck atp LMAO
Also you only need 2* for Treasure
You can choose her treasure item manually for dispatch tho
I didn't know who to get treasure item for so i genuinely js get this box lmaooo

@shell hazel
a better rank for the reshuffle
Last minute hitting your rivals before SP Arena gets reshuffled feels amazing
i'll see them in 24hours again 
if anything i hope i can deny a whel in ch1 in my own bracket to be 
teams for pvp? can i have the same teams on atk and def? im barely getting into arena
pray that not many people quit from earlier brackets
i just want free gems
and play CA to see more pew pew of some teams
20+ beta seasons and they've yet to extend entry range
should've been ch1-ch10 entry from the beginning
they can make a silver/bronze league for lower ranks
so more people need to invest in pvp teams instead of 3~4 whales at the top
finally got some gear I can use from the gear box thing
honestly I think like top 10 would be cool, just make bigger qualifiers or w/e
or loser bracket in ca, for some underdog story 
SP arena
- nayuta trina vestiTU noir RH
- naga anchorIM SBS raven rumani
- crown alice rrh siren biscuit
Rookie
- nayuta naga rrh vestiTU RH
Notes
- wishlist noah, jackal, centi, noise, rapunzel, cinderella, scarlet
- build helm treasure asap
tbf multiple leagues with the winner promoting into the next league would be also cool
e.g. you rank ch5, but win your CA, you're then given an attempt into the actual ch1-ch4 league
how much do you need to invest into pvp characters?

depends on your bracket and opponents
at your synch, ensure your campaign and kraken teams are done first and foremost, as some pve units can be used in pvp
pvp is a different experience depending on bracket
kraken team like AI? my campaign team is set
ye to start farming rocks
in your case you already have most units
nayuta/crown siren sbs alice naga/helmT/mmast
with liberalio coming soon you can then bench alice for lib probably
I hope he meets fahren bracket
i can put the teams u mentioneds on both atk and def?
attack is based on what you facing
e.g. a scarlet 2RL against a noah 2RL will lose
Should I try to get the Lewd Priestess or save?
I just hope I don’t get whales im begging
who?
dreading my SPA shuffle, didn't liked the rookie one that happened recently 
can i use those teams long term or are they only short till i get wishlist nikkes
you don’t know the Lewd Priestess?
she is not added yet
check the probability values
imo wait until at least liberalio and nayuta are in the pool
or you mean rapu? 😄
probably rapu
- you can drastically improve these teams with the units i provided in the "notes"
- they'll be fine in the short term
depends then if you want to have less or more pilgrims in the options
is there a pvp guide i can see

i'm waiting until we have all the new pilgrims added and probably also new years
That’s the one and only
screenshoted so fast that we cannot even see the core
waiting until EoS
i have like 21 pilgrim molds
50/50 
you can wait a couple updates and do singles
Basics:
https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/
Decent teams references:
#pvp-arena message
Burst gen tool (2RL is faster than 2.5RL... 2.5RL faster than 3RL... and so on)
https://nikke-deck.web.app/
are you ok?
Im going for it I believe
next year I won’t spend a single one
Lot of harran will come
idk what 2rl means will i find out in the basics?
oh it's visible at the top
, stat box where you usually see it is just white blanc
pilgrim mold?

yep
Yeah
ff
i need to update my pvp teams, can some1 help me?
post your box
i basically have most meta units except emilia and i can get poli TR if i upgrade her doll
time to use rocks
Locking 6% AtK with blue doesn't feel good
then get a higher tier first
@shell hazel talking with you forced me to improve thanks
Reroll when didn't finish with getting the line? Idk...
i'm at 32 boss and it's MC 
sync ?
hmm you can run multiple teams with this box, pretty good overall invest too, go with these for now, hit me up again if they break
jackal siren scarlet trina sbs
nayuta centi vestiTU drakeT RH
noise noah cindy helmt rumani
i suggest investing more in biscuit, trina, vestiTU, noise, laplaceT (finish doll, get 3 lines OLs)
ok that's why you succeed to push that much
if you beat 31 hard boss you can get to here at least
thanks! ya it's so slow to invest in units in this game. especially balancing pve and pvp
i am 410 sync with 43% déficit
I was saving my crates for the update and pushed my sync from 414 to 429
not sure about that haha
vesti TU full send
ohhh 31-36 boss - you not done yet
that should be possible at 421
I did this at 421 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di-SxrOSoAo
Is there a specific threshold rumani needs to cross for charge speed, or just get 4 lines, higher is ofc better
MC, easy, I beat. 
just need 50 odd sync np 😄
what's the reasoning behind 3RL? is it fine bc of stall? i thought 2RL is best. just want to understand more
hard to run 3 good 2RL teams
@shell hazel @tropic summit @swift mango #gacha-rolls message
you currently could run multiple 2RL and 2.5RL, but you always have to account for CP balance, a super fast team on low CP or weak threat is meaningless
working as intended, 10/10
Btw hippo could you send me your current champ team? I just go collect champs team to put into the thread in Section discord now. 
Haven’t had a pilgrim for a while from these things
makes sense. what's like teams I should work toward assuming there wasn't CP issue. so i cna just ctrl f when the time comes
Yeah, that the common out come. 
I got 10 rock today btw. 
the game knows you don't need them
Actually 12. 3+4+3+2 
increase the CP on the units i told you about, vestiTU especially but also the utilities
you won't be running a single static def team so it's best to have the core units invested, so you can rotate

Season ended, I didnt drop from 1st after the teams you gave me rail 🙏
who can test lib nuke tomorrow 
you 
I can't if noone hits me 
I forgot to even use arena attempts yesterday. Was re-making the surface squad when the day reset
but we can bet 100% that these f2p players will have lib day 1:
@shell hazel
@hollow lagoon
@umbral belfry
rookie I gap the majority so no use there
you're probably still ch1 and rookie1 anyway
it's the f2p lifestyle
If her nuke works like Ein. I probably needed to get her day one too. 
but Rail you have more gems than I do 😄
Yes? Core 2lib day 1? Yes
i had to steal @swift mango life savings for that
5 fights = 1000 tickets
I have nothing nada. 
because he stole it already

@shell hazel I did the unthinkable and roll Rei T now I have 3 rocks left for lib Lel
I hate how after level 3, surface upgrade cost 12h.
Next it would take 1200h to upgrade to lvl10 just like those war games. 
idle gaming
you just gotta wait faster
Then they 120000 hour to upgrade to level 12. And sell speed up.
Next update they have player fighting each other in invasion and selling speed up for recovery too.
I think I called it when they first mentioned Surface. 
Nikke getting killed on invasion will need to wait 1000 hours to recover each. Or buy speed up.

Can't just quit game because itt PvP server site.
Shift up gonna making bank
I don't think you are qualified to be a f2pbtw tbh. 
need to buy gem with cash without any discount for about 100+ pulls to claim that title.
I think im ready for Libe idk about you guys
my books is ready, she won't be home
Nah you’ll get her I believe in you
maybe this, we just cp pad team 3 and focus on the other two teams
crow = nayuta

Not even nayuta come home
Hear me out though this low-key a meta strat, im gonna get her because she’ll be mad I didn’t save enough for to get stronger to help out her mother (thoughts)
Thank you 
Crow ? 
it's nayuta 😛
Oh dear
I might have to ask for new SP arena def cooks/CA cooks with lib 
Scared me a sec
I don't have enough gold book to 10/10/10 Nayuta and Lib because I had to spend some on Vesti 
my wind SR is bricked
if it fails we can re-visit but I think your cp pad team will make it difficult for your opponents to approach it
3% surely 
so you can stuff it with high cp and force them to right the other two teams
3% is not 2% 
nayuta can hold p1 on her own
I mald for sub 1% but we don't get tier 4 frames 
Jokes on you I got no rocks or crates left I use it all on Cin just now.
I’m the arbiter of truth
I feel betrayed
no - you lie, I have proof
Was just about to call you my twin
I don't even have SR doll for Lib 
Im ur cousin you are thighs im legs
I have to wait for SR box
doll selector in the 5x5
You’ll get one free soon
I have purple sniper doll just one but it is enough
well I went to 21 squares on first board before 1st rock so my luck seems pretty bad 
might be a while before cycle 5
I had similar, pretty sure you should get to the doll selector anyway lol
The rough ones are thous without pilgrim attacker gear
I trust that hippos farmed himself a set already
Lamo true
Idk why but I have more trouble with abnormal gear than any other gear 
I got a full set but but I can only max lv one piece 
Yes I did surface shit and it gave me part of an rock and it made a whole one
only got my AsukaW attacker shoes like last week
lying to make friends!



