pvp-arena

[covert lintel]

then give him your idea
I'm amogus

[wise horizon]

Thought I would win this but lost…. Any advice here?

[covert lintel]

I think you just need to switch team 2 into team 1 but blanc position should be p3

[ivory violet]

Can you use Vesti instead of Emilia? She'd probably get through biscuit indom sooner

[wise horizon]

Blanc is pos3 and RH would be?

[thin abyss]

Noah and Biscuit should be their own team, not alongside Jackal

[wise horizon]

Don’t have vestiTU

[wise horizon]

I guess I can switch jackal and Rumani

[ivory violet]

What about the mihara/blanc/biscuit/rumani/cinderella team that'd probably be able to beat that t2

[worthy knoll]

Your damage wasn't what mattered, but the defending just DoTed you while having the slower indom making them out indom you. They didn't even burst B3, they just got lucky with rnged (all your units got Mihara-ed) then they had the slower indom. The same could still happen even if you place RH there

Best way to counter is if you have some kind of sustain.. well it is kinda a balance if you will still have damage ditching Liter for something like Noise. Rapu is a good one coz doesn't need to burst but already used for T3. So if you don't want to change your other teams, you can prolly try to bet on using Mana/Ada in exchange of Jackal 🤔

Well will prolly be too slow, I guess RH is better now instead of Liter if you do that

[covert lintel]

P4

[worthy knoll]

But yeah the win condition is still iffy with Noah out of the question

• Cindy doesn't take Biscuit S2
• You have some kind of sustain to counter Mihara DoT or just get lucky one of your units in P3-P5 didn't get chains
• You are able to kill Cindy in one nuke while still having some kind of sustain to counteract Mihara in the case all your units got DoTed

[leaden canyon]

its this now lol

[keen vapor]

@hoary maple you got attacked

What's Herroo def btw

[coral ivy]

Hello, I'm a newcomer to this channel.

[austere marsh]

Hello newcomer

[quick lake]

[keen vapor]

You're on every server?

[coral ivy]

I come from China.

[austere marsh]

I've heard of that place

[coral ivy]

I come from ChinaShanghai

[keen vapor]

[coral ivy]

I am an international student in Russia.

[covert lintel]

1buff mpriv
Can she wipe out the other 4 beside rumani?

I think rh would be better if the team is like that

[leaden canyon]

Its fine I got something to work

Did a different team

[quick lake]

i think maid priv can’t

[leaden canyon]

yeah

[quick lake]

double buff maid priv is like 60% of scar trina maybe

[umbral crown]

also blanc alone in P1 and mihara is fire

[covert lintel]

So not powerful enough huh

[quick lake]

maid priv is deadge in pvp

[solid flare]

is this fast enough or naah?

[worthy knoll]

I'm kinda curious how this team will fare against that slow Cindy team with Rumani at P1. What I am expecting is you stunlock their Rumani so badly that they become very very slow

[leaden canyon]

If I had treasure bay

[worthy knoll]

Laplace+ and Bay are just flex units, they can be substituted with any B3 off DPs and B2 same gen

[leaden canyon]

Man I have not touched priv in forever but yeah the stun is probably a good idea

[worthy knoll]

Prolly only Emi and Vesti can sub for laplace+ I guess in terms of off burst damage. XMaiden is bad coz it just focus on Rumani, you want to trigger Biscuit S2 on Rumani and Blanc quick

[quick lake]

Ideally wants trina. theres a decent chance u dont kill opponent

[leaden canyon]

Vesti needs to be used on the other team if he keeps the other team as it is

ada buff is enough to make my nero team not tank vesti

[worthy knoll]

Oh your damage is still fine against Cindy even without Liter, yeah Noise is best B1 then

Well I was just curious if you can punish sole B1 Rumani by stunlocking her

[leaden canyon]

Probably

I also probably wont test that unless the teams are in such a way when I can afford to test it

[worthy knoll]

Another I had in mind, if you have enough CP even by slotting a level 1 unit, you can prolly also punish their gen by having the level 1 unit at P2

[covert lintel]

How about sanis?

[quick lake]

sanis? in this day and age?

[covert lintel]

Sanis ammo will become 2 when priv burst

[worthy knoll]

SAnis wouldn't focus on Rumani Blanc which you want to kill quick

Well more on Rumani

You want to stunlock her then kill her once Biscuit S2 is gone

[covert lintel]

Wouldn't her normal atk be aimed at p1 first?

[worthy knoll]

Yeah but her normal atk isn't that much

You are not even sure if Blanc will even get Biscuit S2 with that since she just focus on P1

You don't want Rumani to get 2nd Biscuit S2 after the first one is gone

[onyx scaffold]

So Ada not worth mlb?

[swift mango]

[hybrid fox]

@glad meteor @gritty ridge
2nd fight siren managed to stun
still win because their scarlet died
my scar is stunned

[swift mango]

I'm gonna try testing her a bit but I don't know how to feel about her usage in Arena.

[gritty ridge]

Your scar was siren stunned?

🧱

[hybrid fox]

yeah she has a lot of ammo

[swift mango]

I don't think you even need ada buff for that.

[primal charm]

tf is this this is very mean

why you talk ts of me here all the time before?

[gritty ridge]

<@&946725432554836008>

Thank you mods

[brazen salmon]

are you the player called umbra any chance?

[primal charm]

yes its me

the previous account name is minhmiku

[brazen salmon]

you know which player i am?

[primal charm]

explain this

[leaden canyon]

@swift mango

[brazen salmon]

guess you already had the answer

[primal charm]

why you have to make up all ts

do you think i use gem just to beat you?

even i always aim for ca

you capture the testing and upload to this channel for what?

[brazen salmon]

well i need a solution to your whale

[primal charm]

then why you have make me like a bad guy?

[brazen salmon]

2 weeks reset 8-9 times arena daily reset

[leaden canyon]

at this point I gem in SP arena because I'm bored af with PVE and learning how to break defenses at deficit is kinda fun

[primal charm]

i even nude 2 team attacking just to test my ca team

and you think i play spa to just beat you?

[brazen salmon]

Will you continue to spend 100 gems to get back your top 1 in the future if i attacked you? 😄

[primal charm]

no i can use 1000 gem just to test a ca team

[brazen salmon]

Anyway I am busy dealing with this guy so let's have a truce for now

[primal charm]

but i will not use even 100 gem to just beat you

[mystic rain]

XDDDD

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[sullen dawn]

[vapid lake]

i wish i could actually collude with the ppl n my bracket

Like ya'll

[quick lake]

start wiping out and cp gap

[shell hazel]

i'll collude with you

what are we doing next

[vapid lake]

[glad meteor]

Too much scar s2 dmg I guess. Need to end the fight asap

[shell hazel]

@glad meteor

[glad meteor]

[strong hull]

[austere marsh]

If I wanted to ask for help making 3 teams for SpA Defense. Would I ask someone specifically or send a photo of my Nikkes or something?

[shell hazel]

post your nikkes sorted by power, ideally horizontal view not vertical

[fast nest]

Use Ark's strongest squad.

[swift mango]

Their Vesti only has 12 ammo was the reason you won. Rapu would have been dead if not for that reload.

Vesti ideally need 20 ammo if she had CS. and at least 16 even without

from what you have

Scar+Jacka+Vesti+Blanc+Helm

scar need the link

[swift mango]

no one want to cook def teams these days.

[quick lake]

Laze

[shell hazel]

I was just roaming around Ezo

[shell hazel]

will take a quick look 🙂

[swift mango]

Scarlet+LapT+Trina+Rosanna+Jackal

Moran+Bay+Helm+Centi+Drake

Noise+Noah+Biscuit+Rumani+Cindy

@tropic summit @keen vapor You guys cooks then,

Edit to add jackal:

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/bay-nikke-cheerleader-cheerleading-gif-14534353329378131724

Go go Hippo.

okay. Link counting OL though, But it's just rookie, you don't even need shooting range to test, not like you lose anything if it's not work.

[shell hazel]

possibly this but I dislike SR Anis

needs CS on t2 for 2.5RL somewhere, if there are no CS rolls on any of the batteries it will be slow

maybe LapT over to scar for 2RL and then Drake in t2, similarly slow though without CS

Vesti TU notably absent here, do you have new Vesti @austere marsh

[austere marsh]

I sadly don't. Rolled her banner and got Emma And Eunhwa TU instead

[shell hazel]

wishlist for a copy / get one on NY selector because she would swap in for SBS as a direct upgrade here

[austere marsh]

My Laplace has 19 CS / Biscuit 10 CS / Jackal 12 CS

[shell hazel]

alt option is this, do you have CS on noise/rumani etc?

gives your scar team additional threat, t2 is 2.5RL with your CS, t3 would be 2.5RL with enough CS on noise/noah/rumani

[austere marsh]

Noise 14 CS / Rumani 16 CS

[shell hazel]

yeah is 2.5RL so you could run those and try them

vesti TU would just upgrade/remove Drake from this

if you had CS on Noah we could also sneak in Rapu or Bay

[austere marsh]

My Noah only has 8

[quick lake]

8 is fine

[shell hazel]

it could be enough can check

[austere marsh]

If it changes anything, Rapunzel has 8 CS and Bay has 10 CS

[shell hazel]

you're slightly slower than 2.5RL but might still work

noise b1 should come in before scarlet b3 assuming opponent is running a standard 2RL scar

needs adjutant on BayT, quantums don't really help you here so you can run temperance or other cubes on the rest

or keep some on quantum just for your attack teams

[austere marsh]

Alright so the only requirements are Centi quantum, Jackal quantum, and Bay adjutant?

[shell hazel]

yeah even in that helm team centi doesn't need quantum

but if you run that bay one for t3 you'll want bayT on adjutant

the reason is because of CS breakpoints
15 - 17% CS is the same
18 - 20% CS is the same

adjutant adds 2% CS

because 11% is a breakpoint, Bay can go slightly quicker with Adjutant on, the rest it didn't make much diff on

[austere marsh]

Should I reroll anyone in specific to make it more comfortable?

[shell hazel]

11 - 14% is the same as well

CS rounds in a funny way also, you can check exactly what you get on nikke.work

https://nikke.work/

[quick lake]

better to learn how to make pvp teams then just blindly rolling cs% imo

[shell hazel]

if you add your units and actual rolls you can validate what the CS gets to

[shell hazel]

I'd tend to agree with Rheax though I'd add that having more CS on Noah won't hurt here, speeds you up a little if you can get it to 15% (13% + 2% adjutant or native 15%)

if you run noise/noah together you also typically want Noah in the next breakpoint above so that Noise gets taunt priority

so Noise in 11-14% and Noah in 15-17%

vesti adds a lot of pressure to your p1-p3

if you have the rocks and such rolling more CS on Noah won't steer you wrong, getting to 15% CS with adjutant or without is good

you can try to biscuit stall it and helm lifesteal

[austere marsh]

Yeah since Vesti is newish I haven't really found weaknesses but I'll try some biscuit Helm teams

[shell hazel]

try this at some point

noise may die soon after b1 but if she fails rapu will burst and res her

web filtering gone wild

that noah one above is essentially looking to keep noah taunting/immune then heal past the vesti damage until her burst runs out

noah should proc biscuit stacks twice

[gaunt cypress]

how this biscuit has higher atk than vesti

[urban mulch]

biscuit has atk buff for supporters

[gaunt cypress]

ah yeah forgot that blanc got stun

[urban mulch]

and jackal link is calculated off final atk

[shell hazel]

I don't see the issue jackal links two units, so it would be link to vesti and biscuit

[urban mulch]

breh vesti got 19 ammo

pain

[shell hazel]

damn

what is cp like?

[austere marsh]

89k (him) vs 86k (me)

[shell hazel]

you may need to try to indom it

if you have tries left try this one

jackal/blanc will both proc biscuit s2 and go immune, then rapi should get indom (give Vigor cube to HelmT here)

after that it's a race of can Rapi kill everyone before burst runs out 😛

[austere marsh]

Any cubes in specific?

[shell hazel]

jackal quantum vigor on HelmT

Rapi give dps cube, I tend to give vigor to biscuit also but won't matter here

[austere marsh]

Destruction cube right?

[shell hazel]

nah just resi or bastion

whichever is highest

ideally your rapi doesn't reload during burst so hopefully you got some ammo OL

if not cope with bastion

what are her stats like?

[austere marsh]

Pretty bad, 3 Ele lines 1 Atk line

[shell hazel]

ayy yeah lol

she didn't run out of ammo though, just low damage I think, but moran also lowers damage done

can't think of other good options to run here really your opponent may just be out-vestying you 😛

[austere marsh]

So close to the anniversary as well I shall accept 2nd

[shell hazel]

it's rookie doesn't matter anyway

@tropic summit may have some ideas on what to run against it when he's back

you should bulk out rapi for raids and campaign though, she's meta there

not really so much pvp

[austere marsh]

Yeah shes gonna be my main focus now. I just invested a bit into Biscuit because I like the dog character

[shell hazel]

ideal 40% atk 80% ele or so, and some ammo lines, expensive though

[austere marsh]

My Rapi got a blackline when I OL'd

It was charge speed

[shell hazel]

I wonder if some siren thing may beat that vesti team btw

Noah taunts so if siren gets hit she should stun the Noah

[austere marsh]

Scarlet Siren moment?

[shell hazel]

could be an option depends how built your scarlet is

we need to block their Noah b2 basically, moran will still b1 regardless

assuming siren doesn't die before 2RL from vesti

[austere marsh]

Very built very strong

[shell hazel]

will be interesting to see if she gets taunted by noah and stuns there

scar option if you wanted to try it

though may want to skip helmT in case she steals link

this should link scar/siren/jackal

[austere marsh]

I have 1 try left

[shell hazel]

try the scar one then

last one I sent

run temperance on scarlet/siren

vesti has a very real chance to kill you dead with wind weakness so siren may not survive but we can see

quantum on the other 3

[shell hazel]

haha yep, vesti

mere split seconds from b3 scar 😄

I would say that the plan to stun noah worked though

though they seemed to b2 before she got stunned which is odd

OK they probably have enough cs to avoid siren stun on Noah it looks like

[austere marsh]

Thats like 20% CS right?

[shell hazel]

11% with this one

if noah helm and jackal have 11% cs then their b2 happens before you can stun with siren

vesti cs doesn't even come into this really, she only lands 1 rocket before burst ready

helmT doesn't even matter here either looking at, 11% CS on jackal and noah and they avoid any siren shenanigans

[austere marsh]

So no Siren trickery in general

[shell hazel]

no won't help you here

[austere marsh]

I'll just focus on the rrh route

[shell hazel]

not even sure if that can do it 😄

improving RRH for campaign is good though

anni coming so save some stuff for that

[tropic summit]

looks good tho

sup

[tropic summit]

since it's biscuitless, i'd ruh noah stall with RH B1 + B3

throw in an emilia or laplace or vestiTU as off burst DPS

[shell hazel]

they got lapt but no vesti or emi I think

units: #pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

eh lappy will do

[shell hazel]

I think biscuit will be very dead at p2

opponent vesti looks pretty strong

even noise/noah/helm failed to survive beyond vesti b3 :9

[tropic summit]

can run the same then we ran against your chinnit vestiTU

[shell hazel]

it only works there as we sniperooni vesti

with 2RL moran/noah opponent I don't think it will

[tropic summit]

nah you use the same weapon but you stall longer

point is, whoever is in p2 needs to survive the first barrage

they can die right after as long as biscuit gets 2 stack

[shell hazel]

this one failed despite surviving to b1#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

alternatively indom with blanc should directly counter moran

jackal vestiTU helmt blanc centi
jackal RRH helmt blanc centi

[shell hazel]

noice b1 noah b2 helm b3 success but couldn't out steal/stall the vesti

we also tried the indom but the RRH not strong enough :9

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

#pvp-arena message

this didn't get close to killing them really before deadge

indom on rrh succeeded but not enough dmg

[tropic summit]

and i imagine you also tried slow cindy?

[limber isle]

Which site is this?

[tropic summit]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[limber isle]

Thanks a lot

[shell hazel]

not yet but that one doesn't work favourably against vesti necessarily

also don't think they had mihara built

[tropic summit]

you need cindy in p5, blanc in p1, mihara in p2, biscuit in p3, rumani in p4

biscuit can die as long as she gave blanc her stack, rumani should survive first B3 nuke

once that is set, they can only hit p1 p2 and p3, which p2 and p3 dead anyway

[shell hazel]

they had some good units built but I didn't see mihara among em

[tropic summit]

at that point you should get the nuke off, with blanc debuffing moran

well mihara isn't even mandatory, just extra passive dmg

can be a flex attacker at that point

[shell hazel]

I've a feeling that the vesti will kill the cindy with the nuke before can b3

[tropic summit]

cindy full health?

[shell hazel]

can be worth a try on next reset though

my CA matches with slow cindy vs vesti never went well 😄

can watch the various failures above

[tropic summit]

1RL

• blanc is on biscuit stack
• biscuit dies to barrage
• mihara/flex dies to barrage
• rumani is not hit by anything
• cindy is not hit by anything

2RL

• blanc is on biscuit stack
• biscuit is dead
• mihara/flex is dead
• rumani is hit by B3 nuke
• cindy is hit by B3 nuke

3RL

• enemy still stuck on blanc

4RL or 5RL

• rumani casts B1
• blanc casts B2
• cindy casts B3

this is how i see it unless i'm missing something

[shell hazel]

can be worth a try right?

mihara is the most effective flex here though, without her it's just something that is probably dead

[tropic summit]

would need something that gives buffs even if dead, like Mast

[shell hazel]

the noah is immune even to taunted siren stun it's quick enough

maid mast?

[tropic summit]

well i assumed he was siren resistant

noone should be non siren resistant anymore, unless it's on purpose with the combo of moran and noah

[shell hazel]

yeah figured we'd try though 😄

they don't seem to have maid mast built looks like the other mast

[tropic summit]

OG mast, buffs like these stay active even if unit dies

[shell hazel]

I see that can work

[tropic summit]

although honestly the point is surviving and getting to 4RL, anything else can go after

[shell hazel]

try this after reset then @austere marsh

no specific cubes for quantum or anything here, we don't want to go fast either

normal mast not maid version your one looked OK to me

[austere marsh]

May have leveled her up confusing her for romantic maid

[shell hazel]

right gonna go kill some ronin in Ezo back later

[hollow lagoon]

Tbh u can still use her for hp scaling comp, she’s not a terrible b2 in that department

[swift mango]

HP scaling comp is terrible now. Only Cindy is good and there are better burst 2 to go with her.

[hollow lagoon]

Ye

[mystic rain]

what is this team for

[swift mango]

Slow Cindy but worse.

[mystic rain]

ur buffing crit for who here

mast not even with jackal so ur using mast expecting her to die fast on p2

[swift mango]

Blanc and Biscuit. 🫃

[mystic rain]

crit buff mihara strat

[hollow lagoon]

Meanwhile I still run scarlet rosana in rookie

[keen vapor]

Who will cook at 3 am

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

NO

[shell hazel]

[shell hazel]

they don't seem to have mihara so it's basically the miharaless version

[mystic rain]

cook me a cindyless version of slow blanc pls :3

[shell hazel]

just same but leave cindy spot empty

cindyless slow cindy

some of the context of this has gone, we tried a few things to beat a certain vesti comp but they failed, so this slow cindy without mihara comp was just an idea

the other matches were deleted from the chat but trying out stall with noise/noah/helm failed as did RRH indom

[mystic rain]

this one?

[shell hazel]

#pvp-arena message

[mystic rain]

bruh is that rookie

aint no way anyone running that in spa

[shell hazel]

rookie yes

[mystic rain]

have they tried jackal blanc rumani biscuit

and just pick ur b3 whoever it is

[shell hazel]

noise/noah/helm with biscuit failed to survive

[mystic rain]

not surprised

[shell hazel]

rrh indom wasn't even close to finishing them off

[mystic rain]

no vesti either?

[shell hazel]

nope

[mystic rain]

jesus christ

[shell hazel]

yeah no vesti in particular is the rough part

[mystic rain]

is it at deficit or nah

cant really outstall a vesti even with helm lifesteal cuz defender units generally have shit atk anyway

[shell hazel]

no deficit

[mystic rain]

even worse vesti might just one volley ur ass despite the lifesteal

[shell hazel]

yeah is a tough team to deal with without your own vesti

[mystic rain]

how did rapi indom lose

[shell hazel]

but rookie doesn't matter that much

[mystic rain]

moran lived thru it all?

[shell hazel]

yep lol, rrh not got great stats either

[mystic rain]

if rapi indom cant kill moran no chance cindy can kill moran even if its slow cindy

dps diff

[swift mango]

Cindy actually deal better single target dmg than Rapi. At least in arena.

And Cindy team even if can't kill Moran could kill everyone else and just normal attack Moran to death

[hollow lagoon]

cindy has better non part single target than rapi period

assuming ele neutural ofc

[mystic rain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1429427493227593768/image.png?ex=68f61997&is=68f4c817&hm=d982a643fd3c889a6cc1e8a63777646f33f5746723820508bb6553d8e192781a&

dont think cindy can kill this team

or even live to outlast noah invul and vesti autos in the first place

or actually maybe slow cindy really is the only other option

[obsidian tangle]

how to easly beat this 2 teams (SP arena)?

[thin abyss]

The first one with a massive nuke scarlet-Trina-red hood
The second one should be easy for Rosana+SG team

[obsidian tangle]

wont biscuit save everyone from the nuke since they all defenders?

or thats not how it works?

[woven cave]

biscuit can only save 2 people and it only worker when they are under half hp so you can just 1 shot them all

[thin abyss]

She can only save 2

[obsidian tangle]

oh i see

something like this then?

[woven cave]

sg on the 2nd seems risky you either kill jackal or instantly lose

id say soda or drake is better to burst than mprivity

[shell hazel]

run a low feed helm nuke on the 2nd one

flex in a b1 or b2 RL

doesn't need to be a battery, rapunzel, or similar is fine

[thin abyss]

I would use jackal in team 1, idk if Scarlet can survive with Trina alone if there's any Power gap

[shell hazel]

team 1 may depend if they have any CS

if they do and they're well built it's 2.5RL with noise buff

what is the 3rd team?

[obsidian tangle]

third team is scarlet+rosana Im countering it with helm,noah,cindy,biscuit and helm

[shell hazel]

sounds overkill probably

[atomic parcel]

can anyone help me upgrade my teams? ive been using these 3 for special arena but i got a few more units so i could probably upgrade a team or maybe 2
also what team should i use for rookie arena? ive been using the 3rd one (blanc/vesti/etc)

[shell hazel]

2RL scar will lose to 2RL noah or bay

if you want to take on the vesti comp we want helm to nuke vesti

[obsidian tangle]

sec I'll get his third team

[shell hazel]

<@&946725432554836008>

[obsidian tangle]

oh i have errors on the teams I showed before, they were mirrored, I'm sorry:

[shell hazel]

jackal link with defenders is your best bet for this one

similar concept imo

do you have most stuff built/xmaiden?

[obsidian tangle]

yes I just dont have vesti 🫠

[shell hazel]

try this against the vesti team

[obsidian tangle]

this makes me change all the other teams, what should I do about the other?

[shell hazel]

this against the scar team

this against the cindy team

[obsidian tangle]

oh I dont really have anis built :<

[shell hazel]

if it's within cp range it will work

or at least it's still 2RL doesn't matter - if not may need to re-think

within 15% or more than 85% of opponent cp works here, opponent cp * 0.846

can show teams as proposed we can check it

[obsidian tangle]

yeah *only the scarlet team is slightly less cp

no chance anis dies right naked? lol

[shell hazel]

not if she's p4 typically

p3/p4 usually safu

she literally needs to fire 2 rockets then her job is done anyway. My expectation is that SBS takes the ros/helm nuke to some degree

can you record if you send?

[obsidian tangle]

yes but i'll send after reset in 3hours

emilia over laplace is fine right? I dont have her treasure

[shell hazel]

you got emi? I don't have her

[obsidian tangle]

yeah

[shell hazel]

yeah it's fine I think

still 2RL and her job on that team is to get you to 2RL

is worth building LapT a bit even as battery instead of main DPS

let's you do this as well

[thin abyss]

There isn't much you can do tbh, you're missing both Jackal and Biscuit
When you get them it will be time to upgrade your teams

[obsidian tangle]

btw can you explain how this team works agaisn't the scar team? and why the SBS without bursting there?

[shell hazel]

damn I just looked and this is my rookie attack team even without having cross referenced it from elsewhere 😄

[shell hazel]

xmaiden to burst, she's a defender so she shouldn't be target of ros etc

noah would be in time with feed for 2RL to block scar nuke

xmaiden should clean up as long as noah blocks scar

[obsidian tangle]

so sbs is there to eat rosana dmg?

[shell hazel]

SBS is mainly here for some burst gen and to eat the nuke

if you have vesti I'd also say a good one to put here

as an attacker it forces opponent nuke there

also should keep link on her instead of on noah or xmaiden

[mystic rain]

this is the team u posted abt earlier

[shell hazel]

yeah I happen to be using the same one as my usual attacking team

as it's pretty strong and beats most things

I didn't find anything that beat me yet with it but my opponents are typically cp pad nonsense

[atomic parcel]

i got them on the wishlist but they havent come unfortunately

[obsidian tangle]

as for this team is it that the helm nuke with kill jackal and anyone linked to her?

[shell hazel]

helm will hit an attacker priority so vesti here

we need low feed so we don't speed up opponent

that is why all units are RL or SR

[obsidian tangle]

ahh I never noticed it says highest final atk 🤦

[shell hazel]

yeah I mean you may also just totally screw up who gets indom if they do burst

we need to check it when you run later, if you record it will be valuable

[glacial fable]

Any ideas on how to make two teams stronger? Here's what I use to avoid Siren's stun and Scarlett's wipeout

Maybe there is a better combination

[shell hazel]

we're the same speed with feed from scar/ros here, so as long as you can b1 with jackal or noise, b2 with noah, and b3 with xmaiden, you should just win it

ros may speed them up a bit but noah should still be in time even if 1/2 units die

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

Hi, im new

[shell hazel]

Hi New!

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

not seen you round these parts before

[umbral crown]

Just trying to get along here

[umbral crown]

Makes sense

[shell hazel]

I recommend you follow the meta and run Crow

pvp meta unit

[umbral crown]

I once saw a C7 crow, SR15 12 black lines

[cunning crown]

rerun in our peasant bracket never

[shell hazel]

wut da hell!

[umbral crown]

Was a true crow lover

[placid bloom]

the man is preparing for the final story arc

[shell hazel]

waifu > meta

[placid bloom]

Syuen and CrowOS taking down the rapture queen

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

who was actually Andersen all along

[shell hazel]

our secret bro

gotta be

my whale is slacking not done their dailies today

[umbral crown]

He taking a day off

[shell hazel]

seems so, not their first lately

wonder if they're getting bored or too much rl going on

[placid bloom]

maybe the guy they hired to do their dailies forgot

[shell hazel]

haha could be

[placid bloom]

better hope he don't find out and take out the whip

[shell hazel]

I'll take advantage of it

[thin abyss]

It depends on who you are facing, if there is too much difference in power no composition is going to help you

[umbral crown]

Sometimes a vacation is needed

[shell hazel]

methodical levelling up, doesn't take me much time to keep the wheel spinning

[placid bloom]

I remember my friend logged into his account and saw that they guy he hired to do his dailies forgot to clear normal mode for the Nier event lmao, he was like why is hard mode still locked

[shell hazel]

I've been fighting back and forth with them over SPA1 for 5 seasons running now and it's my win 5 times in a row lol

[placid bloom]

got bricked on his cd

[umbral crown]

Took day off but rivals could not do the thing

[shell hazel]

it's just me fighting back and forth for SPA1/2 no one else even bothers me

[umbral crown]

Waos

[glacial fable]

No, we are pretty much even
And when I attack I win all 3 matches, but since there's no combat log I can't know how I am losing

[shell hazel]

that is just last 2 seasons goes back way further lol

[umbral crown]

Guess no gems, just daily attacks

[shell hazel]

mostly yes - they gemmed a few times

I gemmed one time (for science)

[umbral crown]

As it should be

[thin abyss]

Well I don't know what to tell you, maybe use Siren instead of red hood to counter a possible Noah team?

[shell hazel]

lately they slacking a lot, I won't miss them if they quit tbh

they can run stuff like this so I'm on an up hill struggle always

I have no core max my highest is helmT at C6

[umbral crown]

Vesti food

[shell hazel]

can't get her in range 😄

not of that, almost 30 level sync + doll max + core max

my campaign team is like 820k maybe

[umbral crown]

True wheel

[shell hazel]

but they can't pad all 3 teams like it, so I just abuse other weaknesses instead

[gaunt pulsar]

what's the point though, aren't you both getting into CA and 3k gems anyway?

[shell hazel]

pride at this point 😄

they started it, so I'll keep it going as long as I can

[gaunt pulsar]

i guess

[shell hazel]

I figure a whale values time over money and therefore making them waste time on me means I get some kind of moral victory lol

I mean they clearly don't even need the gems here, they burnt so many on these core maxes

[umbral crown]

Also good way to uss free attempts, more knowledge

[shell hazel]

for them probably annoyed that having spent so much they can't beat me

a different world haha, they whaled a lot but not enough to escape me

guess it will come down to forcing them to whale more or give up

[gaunt pulsar]

so chill for you, no one from 3 and lower even attempts

[shell hazel]

nope, only 3rd could bother and tbh I been in same SPA as them since the start

they've realised I invest more and as such they don't attack me anymore

so mutual respect there at least, they're campaign malder like me (we're both same sync/at 31H boss)

so they've sat at 3rd whilst I had this little war going on with booba guy and they got the same gems and CA and stuff, so I don't think they care 😄

[umbral crown]

Thats the point

For fun and pride

[shell hazel]

be nice if I can just chill in 1st though for some time, we'll see if 🐳 wakes up again soon

[gaunt pulsar]

reshuffle in like 2 cycles?

[shell hazel]

if they shuffle more whales in to my bracket I will have to send them a strongly worded letter 😛

it is at anni basically yes, this guy is new and gaps us all

I just work hard on my pvp nikkes to stay in range

I don't know what teams topyro runs I've not seen them for more than half a year

my goal here is to maintain 1st if I can and just have enough stuff invested (for CA and SPA) that I can vary my teams if I want to

[gaunt pulsar]

until SU decides to throw you with actual whales

[shell hazel]

yeah I mean 2nd guy is a whale

but there are certainly bigger whales

I can't/won't try to compete if I'm gapped +60 or more sync and they invest stuff

still staying top here isn't that hard, and if I wanted to step back some top 3-4 is np

I'll keep hitting above my position if someone takes it for as long as possible 🙂

[gaunt pulsar]

at your sync it's probably more fun, everyone has everything (besides some Collab units), so it's just knowledge/invest check and you can have fun cracking others defenses

[shell hazel]

yeah none of us got the emi yet, would maybe change stuff some if we did

i'm 409 sync guy in 2nd is 436 btw

it's in range but with so many cores/dolls/skills etc it's not easy

that image above was 10 levels ago, so if they run it now it's probably something exceed 900k

[gaunt pulsar]

i'm also cheaping out on spending cores

[shell hazel]

how so?

you keep them for weekly?

[gaunt pulsar]

i mean you probably can jump higher than 409?

[shell hazel]

oh crates you mean not cores

core dusts

[gaunt pulsar]

right, core dust i meant

[glad meteor]

My arena bully like 40 sync higher

[shell hazel]

I track it, I'll stop tracking so religiously once I get next jump. This was after reset

[glad meteor]

But I’m saving core dust for 102 buff

[shell hazel]

so I need 454 hours of cd and 290 hours of bd

[umbral crown]

hippos vs asia

[shell hazel]

that comes down fairly quickly because a day + 4 wipeouts is a min of 32 hours per day reduced

[gaunt pulsar]

that too btw, i do it for ranking only if there a possibility to climb higher or get more cp for nikke i use

[umbral crown]

for nikke 3, do not lie

[glad meteor]

Have you seen progression calculator. There’s graphs etc

[shell hazel]

we all fighting asia 😄

[glad meteor]

Nikke 3 coming on anni

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

I haven't I just made my own little thing which was fairly easy to do

[umbral crown]

of course

3rd anni

[shell hazel]

I just plug in my 1h crate rates and how many of each type of crate I have and it spits out a number of how much I have

[glad meteor]

Its decent

I have this graph to show me my sync growth in future. But of course I’ll have higher cd

[shell hazel]

ugh us date formats

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

guessing you copy it over to your own drive and do stuff

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[shell hazel]

yeah I did something like this haha

left is outpost level stuff (how much each 1h crate gets me)

and right is count of crates, bottom bit is sum of values of each

it's a similar principle of how to do this I guess but less fancy

let me put my numbers in

this possibly over-complicates what I'm doing

a cut down version that has less moving parts would do what I'm doing though

it's the addition of stuff like event tracking I don't really need, I just need to see what resource of the 3 I have the most short-fall in

I didn't do fancy colours here, this is my simple version

this is the sheet version

[glad meteor]

Yeah, i like the graph since ut shows me I’m not going to be in bd/credit wall anytime soon

[glad meteor]

Your cd and bd kinda weird

[shell hazel]

see remaining amount of dust/bd in both needed to 421 is the same right?

[glad meteor]

It shows you’ll reach the bd limit before cd

[shell hazel]

that's sort of right though as I need less bd than cd

[glad meteor]

What happened to your bd boxes

Did you convert

[shell hazel]

I may have done

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

long time ago though...

I haven't done so since ages

[glad meteor]

Rosy method

[shell hazel]

yeah it made sense before sync 300

now I don't convert anymore

[umbral crown]

this indeed

[shell hazel]

my main thing to balance now is cd/bd targets to next major cp jump

[umbral crown]

it works at any level but some brick consecuences might happen

[shell hazel]

I can't do it now I'm always in a shortage

because I get 10 cd crates per day from the daily thing etc

[glad meteor]

🐳

[shell hazel]

it's light whaling 😄

otherwise I'm fully f2p like Hime

[glad meteor]

Exactly

[shell hazel]

nah it's the main boost I'll have vs a true f2p

daily cd from the $15 resource pack for 30 days

it's 300 cd crates for $15 per month

the actual daily cd pack is awful value

[glad meteor]

That would only net me 2 levels

[shell hazel]

yes it's a boost but it's not insane

daily cd pack for me would be $5 for about 27-28 hours of cd

where $15 gets me 300 here

[glad meteor]

I tried getting cd from there. But ended up focusin skill mats

[shell hazel]

so I go with the more efficient one I don't buy the daily packs

[glad meteor]

There’s more skill mats these days

[shell hazel]

I used to do that but then changed when they bumped the skill mats up generally

[glad meteor]

Yep

[shell hazel]

so now I go either cd or bd depending what I need

I can just say how much crates/inventory I have and then I know how many hours I'm ahead or behind by

I get a feel for it over time

I'm swapping the challenge things to bd always atm lol D:

I like to min/max some so I don't need to just spend money to advance stuff, I kind of like the idea of my own progression as well with how I build my units out and what I invest in next

I think I'd just get bored if I was just core maxing everyone and could just buy all the resources I ever needed - I like to work towards the next goal with some helpers from the more efficient things

looking forward to finally working on my pve units some more once the anni is underway, loads there I want to do

[glad meteor]

The fears of having low bd

[shell hazel]

I've not swapped since before sync 300 certainly

before then I was - but frankly it's bitten me a bit

[glad meteor]

Yeah, I used to have eveything in a game once, but then it got boring

There was a “bug”

[shell hazel]

I like a bit of a challenge, I feel like I can spend the next year building my pve at least

[placid bloom]

man Bay Biscuit sucks so much ass

[shell hazel]

and meanwhile I can work on pvp stuff if it appears, or just improving my batteries a bit etc

[placid bloom]

I was giving it a go and holy shit it's so ass

[glad meteor]

Pvp gon

[shell hazel]

I spent most of this year on pvp stuff

ignoring non campaign pve totally 😄

[placid bloom]

tbh only BS frame is nice this year I think, everything else so far kinda meh

I guess Providence is okay

[glad meteor]

I’d invest more in pvp if I wasn’t in fear of being walled by whales, all it takes is one reshuffle to get pooped for 3 months

[shell hazel]

that's reaching a point where I don't need to spend resources on it anymore, or it's limited what I do need to do

my pvp units have good skill levels, most are SR-15, most have decent overloads or at least reasonable now

some gaps sure but can work on between other things some

[glad meteor]

I liked the purple/pink frame, i think that was the water weak one

[shell hazel]

wen animated frames like CN has?

I was frame 2 for all of the SR's until this one we just had

my first frame 3 lol

[glad meteor]

Nice

[placid bloom]

the only water SR was MatHH, BS and holo Kraken

[shell hazel]

yeah am happy I spent some real time and effort on it as well - had to make do with some less than ideal units

[placid bloom]

Idk which pink one you talking about it's just MW

[shell hazel]

but my other investments were paying off

[glad meteor]

Prob mw

[shell hazel]

dog bless Cindy

[glad meteor]

This frame

[placid bloom]

yeah elec MW

[glad meteor]

Your cindy way stronger than mine

[shell hazel]

she's a beast

one of my best units

my first pilgrim and first MLB

I started on her banner and was like I gotta MLB Cindy

I didn't actually spend to do it

we had a good number of early pulls on anni + the events and chapters and such

[glad meteor]

Luccsacc

[shell hazel]

I managed to MLB her without spending, I did 5 re-rolls and had 2 x cindy

so it was just 2 more needed

[glad meteor]

I spent everything on 2 acc, only one cindy

[gaunt pulsar]

was she 2%?

[shell hazel]

pilgrim is 1%

[gaunt pulsar]

oh, didnt knew

[placid bloom]

I rerolled for mlb Cinderella twice, but my first account had no other pilgrims I think so I only kept the second one

[shell hazel]

see here my 5 re-rolls 😄
#questions message

2 candidates it boiled down to

[glad meteor]

Rh 2 cindy and and rapu already

[shell hazel]

I took the top one with RH

yeah I went with that one haha

but that is not quite a year ago today... close to my own anni also

[glad meteor]

I started dec 1 2023, nearly 2 years acc

[shell hazel]

stuff slows up a lot but still making steady progress

[glad meteor]

Beat mc, now camping at behe

[shell hazel]

I remember we had 70-80 rolls to use on the re-rolls so it was pretty good compared to doing now

took a bit of time

[placid bloom]

it was like 50 limited and 30 standard if you only cleared to start of ch2

[shell hazel]

was able to get to about 70 limited certainly at the time

[placid bloom]

probably had to clear further

[shell hazel]

some stuff in mail and anni stuff

don't think I went much beyond the chapter 2 stuff

I just stuck to 5 tries and went with the best of them, was just lucky it was RH/Cindy start

my RH still being 0LB today

[gaunt pulsar]

early game feeds you pretty well with gems, i've spend everything there to MLB Sdoro and still had to buy one with gold mileage

[shell hazel]

yeah it does, they do eventually slow down ofc

I probably started relatively f2p btw but here we are 😄

I def skipped cindy/sbs gacha outfits

[gaunt pulsar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/600589989495177216/1429541653999386724/Sdoro_pulls.png?ex=68f683e9&is=68f53269&hm=97f4fd63cd49265e459af2b30afc5d7b4075446ad053258c5dbe64363ca37fe1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1400&height=788 380 for 3

[glad meteor]

Like me

[shell hazel]

I've stopped pulling too much on 1% it's pain

it's not worked for me at all this whole year

[glad meteor]

I have no mileage for anni

[shell hazel]

I'll max 100 pulls on 1% if they have rebate on (10 pulls back + some other doll mats)

[glad meteor]

Spent 400 on collab

[shell hazel]

then I just mileage

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

I think ada is good, jill I suspect we'll never use again

[glad meteor]

Correct

I used ada on ch 33 boss

Pretty damn good

[nimble swan]

[placid bloom]

Ada is used like everywhere

[gaunt pulsar]

jill seems like ein but you cannot get her copies easily and especially max core her

[placid bloom]

except maybe AI

[shell hazel]

Ada feels universally useful

if you want to use Ada you can type of thing

[placid bloom]

it's because AI is blue CP content

and there are better blue CP bullies

[glad meteor]

Game hates me. I can’t skip collab

[shell hazel]

I had to skip Nier colab

and I barely had enough with poor luck to pull Jill/Ada

was probably the right move though, nier units feel even more useless

[glad meteor]

Yeah. I got lucky in their banner so it’s whatever

[shell hazel]

I like to collect also but not if it jeopardises my resources for a unit I'll never run

am a little sad beause I'd like a 2B/A2 for collection but it's just not worth the cost of going for them at the time with all the re-runs inc

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[shell hazel]

had to skip some of those also, though my love for ros meant I couldn't skip her summer version 😄

a true waifu > meta time

I have 60K ish gems and will be like 50 pulls going into anni with 800 odd mileage so I'm sitting OK for now

250 pulls + whatever else we get for anni

[glad meteor]

Gib

[shell hazel]

I'm just saving, skipped the absolute trio except vesti ofc

skipped delta

skipped sora

skipped half the summer units

I don't want to sit there buying gems so I'll skip what I can and put towards stuff I need

if main pilgrim is good/rapi level I'll see if I can mlb but most of it will be mileage

[onyx scaffold]

I cannot imagine Ada to be used against ngl

Maybe that is an Ada with a lot dupes

[shell hazel]

mine is 0 dupe Ada 😄

think she can get some use though I won't funnel too much resources into her atm

I still need to build my wind asuka and she is one of the better colab units for raids I think

[onyx scaffold]

I might 1 copy Nayuta then sleep

[shell hazel]

i'll see how the kit is

2 pilgrims so need to check on both

[onyx scaffold]

She will be good
And if she isn't, make her be by sending whatever u can to #1047834285287166013

[shell hazel]

I'm sure people will do that if she's mid

[onyx scaffold]

I'm sure people will do that if she's mid no matter what

It is for pve yeah, for pvp we gotta see kit

[shell hazel]

probably true

[glad meteor]

Cindy anni was fun , her kit got changed to do double damage on burst

[shell hazel]

am OK with them not being pvp meta

[onyx scaffold]

Me too, but I cannot decide

[shell hazel]

if anything I want to chill on that anyway so gimme some pve meta this anni is fine

[onyx scaffold]

I prefer 2% rate banner being pvp

[shell hazel]

yeah

fairer for more people then

[onyx scaffold]

I dont want to get dupe on 1% anymore unless she is Redhood Alt

[shell hazel]

or Chime

[onyx scaffold]

Watch chime be free this anniversary... Unlikely

[shell hazel]

just release her SU pls

npc jail forever

make her b1 support for Crown gotta be

[quick lake]

chime surely this anniv

[shell hazel]

🧱

[swift mango]

Maybe 3

[shell hazel]

it would be chaos if they do 3

re-rolled and game was like "credit crates here you go"

[fallow nebula]

Help my defense team keeps getting smoked

[swift mango]

Slow Cindy would wipe everyone after Noah ended. Midhara also kill it slowly as Blanc Indom someone.

Not that it couldn't lose to Vesti but it's defending on luck and investment

[obsidian tangle]

@shell hazel The Anti Vesti Team with Helm did not work but I won 2-1

[shell hazel]

curious it seems they were fast enough to land the indom on vesti

[obsidian tangle]

got any other recommendation I can try next time?

[shell hazel]

your own indom with rapi RH should win it, you'd have to re-adjust the other teams a bit though

guess the vesti one is quick enough thanks to emi, if it was 2.5RL you'd snipe the vesti away

[austere marsh]

Hellohello

[tropic summit]

do you've any CS% of your own @obsidian tangle ?

[obsidian tangle]

i have a bit but I'm not sure it's enough to hit any breakpoint

[tropic summit]

so none of your units have any CS% higher than 11% correct?

[obsidian tangle]

my emilia does have a lot

my emilia does

she has like 15%

lol

[swift mango]

He need CS on all units to make the team as fast as the unit with least CS. So his overall CS probably 0

[obsidian tangle]

rumani has 5 and helm has 6

[shell hazel]

oof

[obsidian tangle]

should they have more?

[swift mango]

Biscuit and Rapu?

But yeah you probably have 2rl+5% CS team

[shell hazel]

good target for pvp batteries is 15%, I'm quite far off that still

[obsidian tangle]

both have 4.9

[obsidian tangle]

i'm not that deeply invested in pvp tho :<

I would rather do without going that deep if possible I don't care that much about champion arena

[tropic summit]

ye it checks out

@shell hazel ^

[shell hazel]

how much CS would we need to avoid it?

[lone sequoia]

avoid what?

[shell hazel]

blanc indom landing before we snipe vesti

[swift mango]

You don't need any CS to win ATK. LD has zero CS overall and I still make him win atk against guys with 18-21% CS. It's important that you know your roster.

[tropic summit]

sure, but playing without CS% is essentially limiting your cards

i think it's a good thing we suggest to invest CS% in batteries

[shell hazel]

you need them kind of equally if you run them together

[lone sequoia]

is that team 2.2 or something?

[tropic summit]

looks like you need to match it, 11% CS team wide isn't enough

[shell hazel]

11% cs on all batteries is better than 18% on one and 0% on the others

I mean we still won 2-1 here so skip the team is also an option if you know you can beat the others

[tropic summit]

to ensure blanc doesn't B2 in time he'd need 15%CS team wide, that'd be 10 frame reduction

[lone sequoia]

if you can use them... sure, remember that cp limit the units you can use

[obsidian tangle]

what other teams could beat the vesti indom?

[lone sequoia]

indom rosanna

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhh-duh-why-didnt-i-think-of-that-gif-21849807

[tropic summit]

even with 16%CS on rumani and helmT it still wouldn't be enough tho, that's crazy

[shell hazel]

no I think that comp doesn't work if opponent is fast enough

you can't survive team wide nuke of vesti either

[lone sequoia]

how fast was privaty stun

[obsidian tangle]

what if I stun jackal would it not buy enough time ?

he only has 1 b1

[lone sequoia]

if she land between b2~b3 the idom cast should be cancelled

[shell hazel]

they'll b1 before you stun so no

[obsidian tangle]

oh

[tropic summit]

but ye for that lineup get splasher pressure and rosanna, fk it

delete emilia and vesti before they become a problem

[obsidian tangle]

shotgun + rosana?

[lone sequoia]

my noise scarlet should win

[shell hazel]

helm probably still the right move

[lone sequoia]

or a vesti scarlet or vesti/bug

[obsidian tangle]

i could replace rap with rosanna and still be at 2rl

[austere marsh]

@shell hazel so I was taking your advise to reroll Noah for CS

[obsidian tangle]

vesti not an option for me unfortunatelly

[placid bloom]

Where the Viper nukers

[austere marsh]

I got blessed

[shell hazel]

damn that's a strong roll

[shell hazel]

would need to re-jig anti-scar team for bay if noah is moved across

[tropic summit]

as long as vesti is around 75-80%hp rosanna should be lethal

assuming you've around 30-40atk%

[lone sequoia]

indom is the easiest answer... after that you can try to use slow cindy or moran/nero+biscuit

[tropic summit]

that's the price of dealing with indom vesti, expensive af

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit help pls,the last team still wins i think

[tropic summit]

dafuq is he running in T2

[shell hazel]

it's the please SG + Ros me team

[warm monolith]

Sadly,i dont have a build of both of them

[fallow nebula]

Anyone have advice

[lone sequoia]

who was this guy?

[shell hazel]

you'll want to reset attributes for closer to 5% CS - the other stats don't matter as much here, 1 rock a try and pray

[austere marsh]

Yesh rerolled and got the same stat, gotta wait until tomorrow

[obsidian tangle]

you think this would work?

[tropic summit]

try any of these, prefer 2RL or 2.5RL

#pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

Is more about Vesti in this case. Not Emi or other units. Treat them as lesser 2rl. And don't bother bring up your CS in this case.

[tropic summit]

assemble these teams and post SS to check CP

T1 rumani bay helmT laplaceT biscuit
T3 trina rouge helmt rapunzel noah

[shell hazel]

more like the order rail posted I think, you don't want ros at p2 either#pvp-arena message

emi instead of lapT as you don't have built LapT right?

if you move noah over then bay will need to cover anti-scar duty instead

[warm monolith]

T1:746k ,T3 647k both w thelm

T1 746k against 867k
T3 647k against 736k

[tropic summit]

check this instead

[warm monolith]

T3 654k while T1 remains same

[tropic summit]

you need 686k

try with blanc instead of trina

[obsidian tangle]

but if noah activates doesn't it mean that indom also did for them and at that point indom will always win because noah runs out faster, sorry if I'm completly mistaken I'm just trying to learn 😄

[warm monolith]

700kcp

[tropic summit]

hmm at least it's in range, a bit yolo but it will have to do

run in shooting range

scarlet blanc liter drakeT jackal

and see if scarlet keeps the buff "jumping jackal"

[warm monolith]

During burst?

nvm She does

[tropic summit]

oke then run those 2 matchups and record, T2 is a bit of an oddball but as you don't have RH and we can't kick helmT from T1 that will have to do

[shell hazel]

ros b1 fires before blanc can b2, trying to snipe vesti before that

[obsidian tangle]

but if I kill vesti do I still need noah?

[shell hazel]

only one way to find out

[obsidian tangle]

:p

[tropic summit]

you need to eat xmaiden nuke

and she's likely on indom as you delete emi and vestiTU

so yes, you need something to keep you alive for 10s of xmaiden

[obsidian tangle]

how would I change my anti-scarlet team then?

if I remove noah

[tropic summit]

in theory you only need a clip RL defender flex for vesti

noah shield and taunt aren't needed, just need to keep them locked in p1

centi or rumani can fit that role in p1

hell even anis could

[hollow lagoon]

U can use bay I guess

[shell hazel]

rumani can't if you want to sniper vesti

[warm monolith]

Bay?

[shell hazel]

b1 innit

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit

[hollow lagoon]

Eah rolled a charge damage into my Cindy’s empty line 3…. It ain’t much but it also ain’t nothing I guess

[tropic summit]

T2 ended up fighting T3? scarlet was supposed to be for their miha noise noah biscuit cinderella

[warm monolith]

Oh...im sorry i thought it was meant for T3

[shell hazel]

details details 😄

[tropic summit]

either way at least T1 was tested

[shell hazel]

you need a defender b3 for scar with helm/ros ideally

[warm monolith]

I still have one more chance

[warm monolith]

Cindy?

[shell hazel]

xmaiden fits that role perfectly for me, if not then yeah cindy

but hurts speed

[warm monolith]

No maiden sadly

[shell hazel]

we beat them before with a cindy thing right?

[warm monolith]

I hope in her rerun

[tropic summit]

here's his box
#pvp-arena message

[obsidian tangle]

how does Bay survive Scarlet? I'm reading her kit and I don't understand I thought she did the same as jackal 🙃

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit 1.8k gem for one ordinary multi,yes or no

[warm monolith]

She is built different

[tropic summit]

anni is coming, you should be saving

[warm monolith]

100 pulls rn

[hollow lagoon]

No

[warm monolith]

Okay

[hollow lagoon]

Go pull pilgrim when it drops

[warm monolith]

Then im opening pulls one by one

Who knows i might get rh

Yeah no

[shell hazel]

well RH is coming to re-run soon

[obsidian tangle]

What does my Bay need to make my team survive Scarlet burst, does skill levels matter?

[warm monolith]

Yeah,saving really was the best choice ig

[obsidian tangle]

would something like this work then?

[warm monolith]

Hows your build?

[obsidian tangle]

4/4/4 🫠 but she has good CP

[warm monolith]

How much?

[obsidian tangle]

180k

my scarlet has 230k which is a pretty high around my level

for comparison

[tropic summit]

check these CP

[warm monolith]

Both 700k

[warm monolith]

Treasure?

[tropic summit]

ok we gotta bench biscuit

[warm monolith]

?

[tropic summit]

ultra cope teams to meet CP requirement

this time make sure T2 is matched against T2

record and go

[warm monolith]

T1 767k now

[tropic summit]

ye that's good, you needed 733k

[gritty ridge]

Hehe

[warm monolith]

Im going

[tropic summit]

is that a linked helmt against scarlet?

[gritty ridge]

Yes

[tropic summit]

good luck

[gritty ridge]

Ez win

[tropic summit]

what was your link HP on B2?

[gritty ridge]

Idr tbh

[tropic summit]

not sure how consistent it is with RNG involved but glad it worked out

[gritty ridge]

That team has a 100% wr so far

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit

Ty

[tropic summit]

bay sacrificed to the blood gods
drakeT with less hp than scarlet

it worked out but next time we'll use laplaceT instead of drakeT, scarlet was supposed to get indom, good job anyway

[warm monolith]

Bay got nuked

[tropic summit]

ya she was supposed to get killed, glad she lasted to eat rosanna tho, else cindy would've been next

[clear depot]

Guys, can I ask what is the ideal deck to beat a Vesti team?

After many failures I got my Jackal to be MVP against Vesti xD but I would like to know which is the better deck against it?

[unborn shuttle]

Can someone make me 3 (or 2 if i cant make 3) teams for special arena?

if i cant make 2 good teams with my chars just tell me so and i'll come back later (2-3 months or something)

[warm monolith]

You didnt tell me we were gonna sacrifice Bay (jk ty for the teams again)

[tropic summit]

splashers + rosanna if vesti is in p2

e.g. noah biscuit helmt rosanna laplaceT/emilia

[clear depot]

HelmT is a must here? Usually she is on my deck against scarlet

[tropic summit]

to enable usage of rosanna on 2RL ye

[unborn shuttle]

nvm, pins now have the best teams

[shell hazel]

SAnis is mid

if you have better options run those instead

[unborn shuttle]

i really need scarlet man...

anyways, thanks

[shell hazel]

jump to the pinned message there are some more under it

vesti comps and such - vesti being great

[unborn shuttle]

wait, so the order he says here is just for the teams for each main char? or is it also for the best teams

[austere marsh]

@shell hazel

[tropic summit]

need to be a tad faster

[shell hazel]

that shouldn't be necessary right mihara version isn't quicker?

[tropic summit]

blanc grave biscuit rumani cindy

[gritty ridge]

What i log in to

[tropic summit]

was very close to burst but since it was 5RL instead of 4RL kinda got denied

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit hey,can you do my def teams?

[tropic summit]

although it's interesting that unbuffed nuke is still lethal

[gritty ridge]

What is this team?

Budget slow cindy?

[tropic summit]

copium miharaless slow cindy

[tropic summit]

post your box

[warm monolith]

One sec

[unborn shuttle]

are the teams in this pin also from best to worst or is it just for the teams for each core chars

[warm monolith]

Here

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/come-here-grabbing-playing-cat-in-a-box-cats-gif-16015075

[warm monolith]

Vesti still developing

[gritty ridge]

Its just variants of good teams

[shell hazel]

it's within each one

[hollow lagoon]

i see a extreme bias to them darker skinned girls

[warm monolith]

Only Bay is important anyway tho

[hollow lagoon]

volume noir and bay have more dupes

[unborn shuttle]

so, what are the best teams there from best to worst? assuming u use the top variant ofc

[gritty ridge]

This is taking forever

[warm monolith]

Theyre just luck with the sole exception of Bay of course

[shell hazel]

assuming you have the units - run a scar 2RL, vesti indom, and some form of cindy/helm thing

[hollow lagoon]

funny i just started the rewind recollection event

[unborn shuttle]

so since i dont have scarlet, is running only vesti and cindy fine? as 2 teams

[warm monolith]

Be me: scrolling though instagram one day,see Bay's showcase vid,download the game after watching just the first three sec