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Buy me silksong? 

i can provide a certain link instead
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If you're talking about rookie, build up vesti indom ig, its probably best rookie team
How you have mats for Nero and Snow White
..... Oh right, you don't have Maid Mast
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I have multi acc 
im talking about sp arena, i usually reach up to diamond 8 but this week its been harder
I smell a returnee
you only need 3 or 4 archetypes to win 95% of the matches, showcases follow
- scar-jack 2RL, possibly involves trina or double buffs (blanc + RH)
- anti nuke noah 2RL, can involve helmT
- indom 2RL, vestiTU, SBS, RRH, emilia
Let us see your sync and your top 5 competition in spa
that sounds like german to me
what is my sync?
ok, make these 2 teams and hit attack
when you see noah skip her
Your character levels
I don't
both PvE and PVP can't have enough mats, my gold mats are running out
I just wanna see if youre a returnee
you're a PvPvE main
So true 
He said no bisc and no helm treasure
Silly rail
Since I won't build Snow White ig I'll reset Miranda as well 
dont have scarlet or biscuit or treasure helm
You wouldnt dare
then post your box, we don't have a magic glass to know your units by heart
234
If you dont wanna build snow then build mihara
You can't main both, you'll either be average/decent in both or funnel all into one unless you use credit card or get lucky
okay one sec
Mihara team did too low last raid 
box

Doesnt look like returnee, just looks like not focusing pvp


How to get lucky 
throw trina in synchro for starters, 4/4/4, 4OL, R15 or SR5 doll




Noah core 1 with tempering 7 didn't survived Vesti+40 levels 


he has plenty of batteries, but sad B3s 
You get to pick sbs or sanis
Pick SBS
Pick bready
i have materials lying around probly

starting with your defense teams, this assumes your trina is built as mentioned earlier
OL means the pink piece right? i got 2 Missilis on her
okay ill set it up now
for attack use these 2 teams, the 3rd just throw whatever is left on high CP
wishlist scarlet and biscuit and get your helm treasured asap, followed by laplace and drake
is this supposed to be a def team?
non natural 2RL means it is weak to siren and opponent can prevent your sacc by running 2 SRs on 2RL team + noah... it's kinda meh
if they use siren on this team they lose to every single other team
so this team is forcing them to use siren on this team or soda
and if they do its easy w for me
okay. idk how to treasure - and i dont have helm sad
so there's that hmm
oh well, honestly i expected the latter
viper is not 3* treasure so if noah gets stunned
if noah gets stunned your team is dead
shit true ☠️☠️
noah is one of the teams that should force opponent to skip it
in this case you're letting them handle it... 
reconsider saccing noah with someone else instead and get noah a proper team
the idea is decent to sacc with a vestiTU nuke following it, but don't waste noah for it
you don't need to do it immediatly, just start getting the mats for it
error 404, helmt not found
is soda linked btw?
linked yeah
t2 and t3 look good
if she isn't well she still cant die anyways
anti nuke and stun pressure
what sucks shit is turn 3 has a slight problem
if its 3rl moran gets decked by siren
nah if she's unlinked she dies to a lot of things, especially scar jack mirror with a single splasher
if helmt.missing == true { throw "get HelmT } else { helmt.treasure }
my first soda roll, CS % on line 3 
ic
well you're not supposed to win defense, you need to help the opponent tilt on their own
t2 and t3 are decent anti monkey teams
nice then
t1 can work at this point on the same idea
time to amimir
mhm
gn bro ty
amen sleep tight
bayonara time so close 
Rail are there any mica teams for CA?
there are but... you won't see her picked over other B1 options
I thought she was decent for slower teams, looking at her kit
she's one of the few B1 that contributes a bit more to burst gen while still offering an atk% buff
Shes clip sg tier, right?
no, just a tad better RL and tad worse than clip SG
probably
Cleanse is the only reason I was looking at mica and sora originally
But then I was reminded 2rl b1 cleanse is useless
So the only reason I could see using them is going 3rl blanc against faster blanc that has siren
cocoa can dispel, but her skill is on 15s cd to do it, her burst cleanses too though
mica would've been gud before they starting giving out trina and helmt
once more teams got better burst gen options, she fell off
you can still get creative with her
I love getting creative
hey sorry, you have sbs twice
The problem with Mica remain about feeds and counters. Her buff isn't that strong either.
only lasted for 5 seconds too...
not sure how many CS emi needed to make use of that kinda buff.
you could use her outside of fire weak too. She is on Rapipi tier against neutral mobs stage.
ofc she needs proper investment
6 rocks to roll 3 times trying to get CS last ditch effort. And the best I got was...



I could do a couple of rolls before CA but I'll just wait for near next CA again, should have a good number of rocks to try stuff with by then

You aren't having CS problem like me. 

where do u find this list
I'm tired and seeing people finish rolling their one unit in 30 rocks yesterday then saying it was a lot kinda ruined my day. 
30 isn't that many but it takes a while to gather rocks, usually go deeper than 30 rocks, sometimes even just to try and fix one piece
They got ATK Ele x 4 3 ammo with blue black lines then saying it was a lot. Feel like a slap to the face.
sweet summer child never knowing the pain of spending 30 rocks just trying to roll a line 1 you want lol
and getting hit rate 3 x in a row
ive been rerolling for a single ele line on my siren for a month now and still nothing
i gave up
smh I spend 50 rock just to not get the stat I want 
I fully expect to be rolling my vesti with every rock I get for the next month or two at least :S
sheet in pins
sounds like a skill issue, git gud
Would be nice moran roll sadge
@swift mango
my vesti godroll will destroy next champs
that 11% def will come in clutch trust
17% crit rate thats basically one shot noah on a good day
noah is so dead
the real mica is better anyway, look what they stole from us
afaik theres no crit team for vesti in pvp so crit is ass

is that supposed to be the opposite of shorts, instead of ending halfway down the thigh that's where they start

vesti ready
vesti not ready but we sending her anyway 
mine isnt but i only swapped sbs for vesti and im back to winning my defense again
nice unit 
the power of vesti
she was already owning in champs with r15 and 0 OL 
legit only lost one match and that was cuz enemy team was full sr15 noise noah biscuit cindy
it's a flex unit, use w/e in p4 that has high CP
this is team 2?
I just lost to an indom vesti lol
this jumpscared me
jumpscared by her cuteness 
uhhh okay so team 1 and 2 switched between grave and abs
no just flex as needed to address CP
got it
these are your high CP units, that spot can fit anyone as long as you retain threshold
you'll get familiar with this once you start struggling with CP requirements for higher ranks
whale tech 🐳
as you'll have to deal with this

these are unrelated
@swift mango so how's your rapunzel looking
I can't do this 
what troubles you 
pretends to understand
Wrong speeds maybe 

say you've 350k CP for your attack team, and opponent is running 500k CP.
you then calculate 500k x 0.846 which returns 423k, that means you're hit with a huge stat penalty and you likely can no longer win with a team that usually would
frickin math
ikr
i just wanna game
i was running sbs with noah biscuit team as my dps for defense but shes so bad its so ez to counter her and i dont really have any other alternative since no sanis/cindy

why are you running wrong speeds then 
literally just swapped sbs out for my underdeveloped vesti and my def winrate shot up again
shes so insane
don't make me
your
@keen vapor
If my Vesti had more CS it'll be better 
then give it to her 
CS% i mean 
we all know what you meant 
sir this is a pg13 family friendly game
no rocks
i'd never
💳
@tropic summit
Railie Railie in the lamp, how can I get better luck my rock?
THE 40 ROCK PACK 
get it 🍿
then proceed to waste them on nothing - best money you ever spent 
Neon point
I mean people need 30 rocks to minmaxing 12 lines one unit, why do I need 400?

@dense kindle i got stuck in campaign 

i don't think i can beat the 2nd cc until i finishing gearing up my sanis + hit 401

what time est does pvp reset
4 pm
in 13 minutes
tomorrow
he's lying 
@keen vapor someone is being a bad boi
even 5 attempts on rookie 10 min before reset, what an animal 
Ah crap, I was going to snipe but forgot rookie

just use your attempts on @swift mango
rookie mistake
The only reason I could win in CA is that people doesn't invest much into Arena. But even someone who only invested quarter the rocks I did will overtake me easily investment wise,. 
So I have a chance 
[c] says 4 times CA winner
My former CA rival Mystichy has all his units 18%-21% CS. I'm only a plebs with 11%-15%. 
Rapu brickedto boot.
cool i cant wait to try out the teams railtracer put together for me.
is that chapter 29 boss? or 30?
30
yeah you want 401 for that I reckon
if you're hitting SParena, i highly suggest you post the matchup you're trying before running it
i barely beat the 1st cc, i had like 4 secs left 😭
it's your chance to learn about counters
So stuck for two levels huh
.
probably don’t need anis tbh but I know you’re PvP invest heavy 
my anis is sr15 9/9/8 rn
but no OLs
time to be a pve invest
watch all my initial OL rolls be max ammo
never forget SR anis
sorry another jumpscare 
we all need an anis in our life
Caught me bad
-# are there more jump scares in the future, asking for friend
LMAO
If we were on same time starting bracket, Echo CP would be too bricked to hit me and calling me a whale.
next skin leak
right after ade bunny 
they're bigger
-insert trust me bro here-
wow you ignoring text in bottom right
so mean
Hime put the scissors down ✂️
😭
happens when your stuff is found on google
learn....? in a game? priorities...
i can confirm all pvpers have a single brain cell
just kidding that warning is for AI learning 
if i was a girl, i'd scissor too
ofc AI will ignore the warning 
is there a gpt for nikke pvp
yes, this chat
You want to learn IRL math? 
i actually did see some chat gpt in here, but their advice is 
tia and naga for pvp 
Hime teach me how to whale 
this is how
but as a f2p i could never
stop looking at the price, just click blue button 
Hime as a fellow f2p I approve
last chagpt attempt i did told me to use privaty on a 5RL team

and it turns out it was right all along
priv OP on 5RL
yeah she's gonna get her stun off trust
in the afterlife
@tropic summit @swift mango @coarse lake Nikke work is failing me, it says Siren stun happens before Blanc burst
Both RH and Doro finish that team in about the same time
They could easily have the cs for this. Surprise?
9% on Helm
thoughts
the classic putting sr anis on an indom team 

8% on helm is equal to 15% on Normal RL in a 2rl team. 
It never fails, I should do it as well

Why no one told me that 
He even play Blanc p1.
what's SR Anis?
She's linked 
she didn't though?
railgpt is thinking?
Mine is
railgpt 😭
Yes
Idk how bricked your vesti would be for Blanc to have higher atk but okay,
0 attack lines
you can see it yourself
the fact we already have to tailor teams is concerning, you can turn it into this
your teams are on the left
(opponent is right)
show matchup again and then we gud to go
The initial analysis is that you are screwed sir.
i dont need that kind of negativity on 9/11
only got a few CPU and RAM 
so you want me to change up my teams and then show matchup again right
don't worry he's a good guy, deep inside and when you ignore the fact he likes crow
I'm still not getting 2nd cs line for my Vesti after 2 CA, I'm negative Ion. 
aren't you an MA for a living 

Why he can get away with 9% CS 
i dont have zwei or volume
your teams are on the left
right is the opponent matchup
nice, too bad this is for helm and not vesti
I don't even know how much CS Vesti needs to speed up team 
It failed me
post that team CS%, all units
Is mostly 5% except for Helm which is 9 something
team is 5%CS wide and only helmt is 9%?
you put rh twice so i just use rrh and i auto team 2
uh let's see, yeah CP is fixed
you can run it
ironically this was the situation where you can learn what a flex unit is and you did it right unwillingly
(RRH)
I won round 1 and 3
i just used the highest cp
okay now what? do i keep this team
no, as you saw we need to tailor them
1 rock today so I'm done. 
if you're facing CP issues like before, you've to balance them with burst gen and CP
no, you need to tailor them. I just click stuff
no you learnin' from this 
i havent learned a thing
you've just learnd a few important things:
-CP, you need to balance teams out
-burst gen, only certain flex units can be subbed out to prevent tanking team speed
We'll gradually have you form your own teams once you're more familiar with this.
this one ironically is easier
idk anything after "burst"
i'll make it simple for you:
-2RL: fast
-2.5RL: somewat fast
-3RL: average
-4RL: slow and fat like @swift mango
wouldnt i win 1 and 3 here
There's a secret 11% here
But Helm is now 7% 
you'll have to learn sometime people won't always feed you winning teams 😛
You think I could get Rapu?
let's see
does this mean i want exactly 2 rocket launchers on each team no matter who it is
man I won't commit to that one lol
gl if you do, I'm probably going to save mine until the anni/ny pilgrims are possible
for example, what can you discern from looking at just the blue bars in this screenshot (you're on left)
i want 2 instead of 3?
yes that's also a thing
the other team has no burst gen
although the most important info here is that you burst, opponent is too slow to even reach it (normally)
pilgrim molds so rewarding 
bingo, good job
so this is one important bit, always try be faster than your opponent to get an easy edge
2RL vs 3RL
3RL vs 4RL
etc
in general, it's a huge advantage in most situations
now there's a new thing here you need to although concern yourself with
there's multiple enemy shotguns in your T1 matchup
okay
these ladies, naga and pmaid, will shoot your p5, which is your only B3
that's bad.
He can't keep getting away with this 
we gonna need to put a tanky unit in p5 or use jackal to distribute damage or use biscuit (you don't have her yet)
y are they gonna aim for p5? do shotties always aim for p5?
enemy shotguns when you attack shoot p5, your sniper rifles when you attack shoot p5
viceversa, when your teams are defending, your shotties shoot enemy p5 and your sniper rifles shoot p1
in this case, when you attacking, RH will be shooting p5

(this is retained even while she bursts, just like alice)
as you can see you've pressure on p5 by 2 shotguns and pressure in p1 by the other standard weapons
shotguns are something you've to watch out when making attack teams
on the other hand, you can also use sniper rifles for your own benefit to hit p5 and bypass units in p1 or earlier positions
who do i wanna kill first on the other side
this is especially helpful when dealing with attract taunts, as they cannot prevent you from hitting backline
but well, this is more advanced, for now as long as you learned targetting from SGs and SR it's all gud
we can now make a team to counter this situation
@clear vessel did Check changed def? 
-# No pressure
the easist solution, use your jackal to benefit from enemy shotguns:
HE LIKES CROW?
yeah man i'm reporting his account for terrorism rq
simply rotating the teams, you gain the following advantages:
T1 now faces jackal in p5, shotguns will "feed" jackal with burst gen and you'll distribute their damage to 2 other units (highest atk% are choosen), this is due jackal kit
T3 now no longer has SG pressure, your RH is safe, you burst first
arrange that matchup and you're good to go
too much thinking

but i see it. youre rock paper scissoring each match
bingo, that's this game pvp in a nutshell
and you know which nikke beats what so you can rock paper scissor to your advantage
know what your units do and what counters work best
Hi! I've kept investing in Centi and Rumani as suggested but still not enough with Ade and Milk coming out, is there any 3 teams I can build now for pvp? Vesti is now SR15 too
Koharu 
this are my 3 current teams + the rookie arena team
vesti sacc? 
okay if i not lazy i come back tomorrow again
well you learned already a lot today, enjoy your rest and see you on next episode
sacc?
that's fine, taking a look
Thank you! I had SBS there but someone told me to just swap SBS with Vesti
as info meanwhile, what's your OL's on vestiTU? and do you've any battery with CS%? (centi, noah, rumani, trina)
ye that's valid, she'd perform generally better in most cases
This Is Vesti, the rest have only 1-2 gears with OL but no Cspeed
Or no OL gear
oh ok somewat around average
she could use a bit more CS% and 1 more ammo line, atk and ele are fine
run this team in shooting range or any campaign map
jackal vestiTU helmt blanc drakeT, tell me if vesti gets jumping jackal buff
else we can flex with someone else instead of drakeT
Perfect, doing it
you can start the round, press escape or enter pause menu and check on vestiTU if she's the buff
yes. she and Helm get it
ah awesome
your indom vesti 2RL is set
now for the other 2 teams, we gonna work with biscuit and noah comps
what's your quantum lvl for reference?
Lv 6
I saw pink got muted. The guy with like 40% more exp comparing to 2nd rank yapper of our server.
Dee pink
I don't know if relevant too but Resilience and Bastion are 10
which pink
The rest 5 except destruction and pierce (4-3)
the top 1 undisputed yapper of our server? 
i need to ragebait give me his name
Clueless
there is a thousand pink here what is his discord tag
probably last question, any unit with 11% or 18% CS
deepink 
Whatever unit? Or any weapon/Unit in particular?
oh he had me blocked
centi, noah, biscuit, xmaiden, helmt, trina, rumani
so deserved i guess lol lmao xd
It really is
He did. No isssue though. Still have 1 hit left.
No, Helm has the highest with 7% and Maiden next with 3% 😔I haven't done AI today so I can reroll with the 3 stones today
oh ok so absolutely no CS% i see
@keen vapor ...so about that Dirk hit
I thought their OL lines weren'r relevant other than for her
Getting closer 
jackal vestiTU helmt blanc drakeT
trina centi cindy bsoda rumani
noah biscuit sbs rh xmaiden
quantum on jackal, drakeT
vigor on trina, biscuit, blanc
temperance on noah, rumani
any other nikke run highest lvl cube available (bastion/resil/temperance)
-improve CP on units attached in second SS (biscuit, rumani, jackal, centi, noah, trina are all critically lower)
-try to get CS% on some of your batteries, aim for 11% (siren resistance) or 18% (burst threshold +)
Helm with Adjustant is kinda enough CS
lastly @uneven raptor consider these 2 for T3 until noah and biscuit are better built
Thank you so much! As long as they have CS the rest of the lines aren't as relevant then?
batteries mostly want CS%, can use some atk% and some ele%
Perfect, thank you! Should I use the first team for Rookie arena too as well?
Used 120 blue 30 purple 120 red and my Centi finally sr15
vesti team is your strongest, can use that one in rookie
keep in mind opponents can train against it that way, so up to you 
run this one instead, it's effective and not usable in SParena as it commits too many units
Thank you! Last question, Is there any match I should aim for? Like the vesti team always for Siren?
This is my CP with a full sr15 team. The c2 only 7 level higher than me but full max core nikke. 
I'm 0.2 off 
attack in general you'll tailor the teams based on what you facing, although generally speaking you've already 2 pretty strong attack teams situationally
-the vesti team can handle even noah teams, will struggle against rosanna and slower indoms
-the cindy team is sort of all-rounders, but it lacks antinuke (as we cannot use noah yet, she tanks your CP)
-the CP pad can gap if you can afford to, else the SG pressure can win on unprotected B1/B2 used in p1/p2
What's 0.2 off? I could get to 3.1m if I maxing my cubes I guess. Moving cube around to test team. 
That
I'm 2.81
Keep laughing 
At least your luck with pulls and rocks aren't total shit. 
IT TOOK ME ALMOST 100K GEMS 
And been only getting 1 rock daily....
For? Getting all limited in 6 banner?

Doesn't matter if you could get the line you wanted
One unit to MLB?
I don't have 4 attack line Rosanna, Soda and Ein....
Me neither 

ya need an exorcist for that
I only have 1 minmaxing unit and it's scarlet. SBS is my only unit with 4 Ele. 
me neither 
i don't even have soda built in fact, ein is on 2OL 
Any cooks in the SP Arena kitchen?
My Ein is 333 0ol

I need to eat!
you know how screwed we are against this bad boi
Thank you! It's what I still usually struggle to identify, unprotected means team has no taunt right? And what's indom?
VERY
@umbral crown could never :pepeh:
your vesti is running indom setup, here's SBS as an example, vestiTU will do the same in your case
as unprotected it means p1 and p2 running non tanky, non biscuit locked or non jackal linked units
what are we cooking? defense SParena and rookie?
You need 200 on average to get 1 unit to MLB, so nearly 300 for that isn't that bad. 
Yes both please. But SPA first onegai! And more offensive teams than defensive.
Thank you a lot! 🙏🏻 I think I get it now
:blancry: I won't do this ever again
~~oh, it did an equivalent exchange with Mica early
~~
Maybe Kilo for this winter 
to be specific, in your case:
jackal p1
vestiTU p2
helmt p3
blanc p4
flex (centi) p5
at 2RL, your lowest HP unit will be vestiTU (she's non treasured, attacker against the HP of jackal a defender and treasured unit helmT, both should've naturally higher HP if fully invested, else you can throw vigor cube to helmT), she'll be picked by blanc as indom target, she'll then go unkillable for 10s on buffs and slaughter enemy team
the counter would be a team with a bit of splash and a rosanna, as rosanna breaks jackal link, your vestiTU in p2 would be vulnerable and killable, rosanna also nukes her at B1 2RL, so before she gets blanc's buff
I do have this Rookie f00l needing a spankin too!
looks easy enough
This work?
you can run better than that
Guys is it wise to use Vesti in CA if you don't have 15% CS?
you're on the left
you can use vesti as long as you're on 2RL (indom) or behind a 2RL noah
2.5RL vesti can work but she needs a noise or a moran to possibly survive nuke at 2RL or rosanna
needless to say post matchup so we can doublecheck CP requirement to prevent penalty
Or does positioning matter?
position absolutely matters
jackal p1 prevents your team from being siren stunned on 2RL, which happens slightly before your B2 cast time
else you'd need scarlet to be running the ammo requirement to be reloading when stun hits
Alphonse 
What' the go to CA team for Vesti? Still not sure how I slot her in
Swapped as per suggested for Team 5
Running this defense Rookie but keep getting crushed
ye you can do better
Working on Noah OL
Perfect, so team 1 Is the strongest but avoid Rosanna, the SG team can beat teams where the B1/2 Is un the first 2 slots and Jackal, Bisquit or taunt unit, else use the Mihara team and Cinderella team, right?
are season rewards based on point rankings or battle?
Dat insta delete
ye had a typo
run this on your rookie instead
p1 is siren and sg resistant, team has anti nuke, you've natural 2RL, you've nuke
you COULD trade noah off for trina instead to go heavier nuke but lose anti nuke, so you can swap it out if it starts failing
One day I will save enough for 10 Pilgrim molds pulls and I would finally get Rapu right before she got powercreep to oblivion. 
@haughty mortar that alternative team would be this one
Was gonna ask
Is this VS the dude or a Defense team?
this is a defense team but can also be used offensively
The game is already in its 3rd year and there is still no Nikke that revives more than once like Rapunzel
well you could still use noah, but you'll need to be careful on CP
hence why i mentioned tailoring your teams based on what you facing
That just means it needs another 3 years.
either way let's see for SParena lastly
Thank you!
I think I will build Nero next CA. I have a team in mind that would side grade to missing Rapu at least
I'm gonna need doll mats though... Only have 10 red left.

jackal siren scarlet trina drakeT
naga centi cindy helmt rumani
noah biscuit sbs rh laplaceT
quantum on jackal, trina
temperance on siren, noah
vigor on biscuit (noise)
any other unit running highest lvl cube
raise CP on rumani, noise, centi, biscuit, blanc, trina, noah, jackal
you welcome 
it doesn't involve mana does it
This is for both atk and DEF teams?
Also no Anne?
xanne is not a SParena unit anymore
those are def teams, attack is based on what you facing
Also I do not sadly HAVE cindy
there is mana ofc. Need something to counter scarlet wipe.
why you don't? you can run Ein instead, won't be as effective although
you've vestiTU?
No new units

I am Wishlisting both her and Bunnies
ein or RRH it is instead then
if you do get cindy or vestiTU down the line, they'll want that spot asap
I will wait for when the patch with the 20 slots drops to add more units. Don't wanna keep waiting 4h for a change to put Rumani in synch. She is lvl 1
What can I use instead of her in the meantime?
nothing, she's essentially to hit 2RL in that team
build her, you'll have plenty of usage for her in pvp
Freedom
@shell hazel he's gone and done it
don't worry, there's always an asian guy better than you
I’m Asian
oh no.

there's always another asian guy better than you*
But I immmigrated to Canada so I dues I don’t count
you lost your asian card 
Likes the west better anyway
depends but ye i guess
My Liter is super bad, so I used rouge for b1 which resulted in a very comfortable run

there's 2 units that i don't like to see in there because they're unbuilt 
Tho only 50% nerf
I would be comfortable with this team too. 
if your ein was built maybe
the problem is that she isn't
Which 2? Rouge?
what do you mean, zant is a f2p
My Ein is 3 atk 1 ele with no blue lines
like the ultimate f2p experience

but with 💳 and hookers

F2P as in freed my wallet of money then sure
it's thanks to you that we've this
Bro I did like over 200 pulls on milk but I only got2 milk, bloody gotten 4 pilgrim in between
Free to pay by the way. 
all your money goes to those ass||et||s
I have like 120 pulls and a dream now.
you better pray for your life
this game smells your fear
Pulling milk maxed my Cinderella
weird context but ok
And mlbed my Isabel
ran into combat power problem again, will it still work? pretty sure the rosanna team wins btw
need to see ur box
Weird looking team sets
it has to be weird for this
18% deficit against SG pressure on that synchro is fun times

Well when he uses actual teams the combat power is around mine
what's CP with this matchup
I can make this team a little higher
(you're on the left)
you need 1783681
Helm got 1 shot by 1 normal attack. Crit stronk. 
looks like you'll need alice and to fall to 4RL
you should be out of deficit with this one
post matchup
oh wait your drakeT isn't used either, that makes it easier
I can make the deficit
do not run in deficit against that, you'll lose the trade
stick to alice or upgrade that drakeT team to 1791k
ik, thats why I'm going to make up the 1k
oh oke
that is so ballsy
still deficit btw
or not, 15,3, but up to you to risk it, not sure if there's any weird rounding
I can just do alice then
it's risky on a different way, hopefully their RH doesn't hit 5RL in time
only one way either way to find out 
how about the other team
the one with emilia vesti and laplace?
nah the other one
so my vesti team might work, it depends if mana also dies
Can someone help explain how my team 3 lost?
well you're removing link on 1RL, you'll burst before they do, which nukes vesti and mana, jackal and blanc will get invulnerable
you're also removing mana revive (iron stack) via rosanna btw
ye it's a buff, so dispel will remove it
your indom failed
this is somewat of a bug, but it happens when blanc's receiving unit is killed before buff is applied
heal is applied, but indom is not in time
maybe re-visit the teams altogether, i wouldn't run that tbh
playing with indom mirror timings is annoying
I find it funny that this team only loses against that guy
3 people in my sp have that exact same defense and the blanc mihara works against them
No Emilia troll 
do you indom mihara or let her die tho?
Let her die always
oh oke you doing it right then
Either rumani or xmaiden gets indom
Usually rumani
Sometimes xmaiden dies before blanc bursts
I see that there is a bug with Vesti and Jackal. Where Vesti in Jackal team has her 2nd shot being much stronger than normal. No wonder there was lots of win last season with Vesti. 
In jackal team

ah there it is, the seasonal buff
can't have some good sauce without good spaghetti code
You could compare her dmg with and without Jackal against the same guy.
try running jackal but without her bursting
curious if it is weird interaction with her burst
Vesti blanc rh cliprl jackal?
or does it happen pre burst?
no talking to @swift mango don't worry
oh my bad
You are forgiven
I have no rookie left, could ask Seb to do his rookie
she just needs to be in the same team but remove either emi or laplace and put a different B1
Do it.
for example rumani could work
I would use in rookie but I cp gap everybody except for a whale so idk how effective it will be
What team do I use? Same one I suggested?
could run this, keep in mind you've non natural 2RL and a B3 in p1, so stay away from sirens
you'll need an enemy team that has at least 1AR/SMG/MG/SG
any of the above is enough to kick you into 2RL
obviously ensure emi is higher HP than vesti (vigor)
Siren alone would feed this to 2rl. And siren won't stun before Vesti 4th normal attack done.
oh yeah if we testing just the attacks afterall
scarlet ironically almost clutched
jesus christ true popcorn on cindy
sad last match haha
I was hoping emi would die sooner
In CA do ppl tend to put Soda in P2 or P3 in Scarlet comp. I know P2 means stunning taunters but it's riskier. Is there a pref towards one or the other?
Bro I keep refreshing I can’t find a single good opponent that won’t die quickly 
p3 you're just praying RNG, p2 you're at least trying to counter noah
statistically i think p2 is more consistent, but it's still down to luck of the matchups
tbh, T2 probably isn't very consistent, can just proceed and rethink T2 and T3
Maybe this guy?
At least he isn’t in deficit
hmm should kick you into 2RL
Vesti in p2 so she burst goes off?
I mean all my RL units on this team have 15% cs
Ok i hope my game doesn’t crash again 💀
fingers crossed
if we can swap around a few units from T3, we can make T2 consistent, T3 probably could do with a different approach
woul 2RL scar kill the vesti team with rosanna?
Idk how useful this video is
I saw one guy got champ because his soda was able to stun both Noah and Siren, ignore Noise because his soda in p3. 
I mean he is 70 syncs lower so 
Your Vesti at least didn't one shot p2-3 like my video
Idk if that is a sign my vesti is too weak 
There must be something wrong about Vesti just straight up killing a linked HelmT p3 here. But Scarlet survive. 
post matchup with these, let's CP check
holy macaroni 
instant delete
p3 died pre B3, gg
I have soda built but i just used her once and that wad S4
@swift mango @tropic summit

15,2%
Yu two have serious skill issues
record and yolo @leaden canyon


Nvm, it was Biscuit who is linked in this team. 
remember the good times when your biscuit had 40%atk OL?
Only 11.8% now. 
Will noah with 4 defense lines survive being in p1 with no biscuit?
against ele weak no


Not against 4-5SG, that was how I lost last CA. 
Still. That was strong crit 
he spent 300 thousands rocks on that scarlet
it's the reward for his efforts
Really weird though. 
Suprised one hit did that much
ah nvm you meant his vesti
Bruh
Looks like a bug to me, I would need to test more later.
ye that's hilarious
I meant for Ein
How you do that 
Depends if against investes vesti or strong P1 preassure
Someone in my union made a discord bot that takes info from blabla
lmao you did kill vesti in T3 at least 
Ein is used everywhere, its whar you need to counter vesto besti
guess we could try nerfing T2 but adding biscuit
I wish I knew how, she is some crazy coder
and just play it out on deficit
Tell her to share pls 
?
Best team ever is clay crow sin trony aria
I desperately need to cp pad my units
Alice is currently my strongest sitting at around 270k, while units like noah, emilia, centi, jackal, biscuit, rumani are all around 170-190k
Rail you wanna see if I can beat my rank 1?
what do you mean IF?
i didn't raise no loser
you HAVE to beat him, now.
you've attempted communication with le ch1?
did he tell you to do something with his male reproductive organ?
oh wow, friendship formed from rivalry
i've seen this anime plot before 

@tropic summit

wow this is easy, you can do this
T2 I can win if I swap siren for a little more speed
T3 is scary cuz besti kills p1/2
T3 needs to be nuked on 2RL, you can't let vesti land her kit
that or you need 2 defenders + biscuit
Rail:
Yes, this is Rail
Yeah ideally id use noah centi cindy bisc noise
I won
But my centi is so weak
Is not it disney channel?
sir this is a Wendy
I just moved vesti p2 on third team for this

Lol it sucks, my defense teams usually have around 1m cp but they could be higher, like around 1.15m cp, would help a lot with putting people in deficit against me considering they are around 20 syncs below me and their teams are like 950k cp
oh so you clutched on T2 and wiped on T3?
damn that's popcorn worth, good job
I won t2 and t3
Vesti is able to burst can kill everything
oh right we did see before that she can ignore deficit even
the anti deficit weapon
Then you need to check your investments, give your pvo units some love and be the next yonexxi . C3 is 481 and im 429, the difference is not that big
t3 wasn't deficit
what was T2 then?
oh nvm i got it now
T3 was on 3RL, i guess you nuked before blanc went off
(on enemy side)
yeah blanc never went off
I get like 1 rock per day so it takes me weeks just to build one unit 

Its literally all centi's fault
you mean your fault
Unfortunately my defense is still cooked
Im working on it
ye won't be able to defend against that 🐳
gottem once
I ran moran noah helmT lapT biscuit
scar trina centi rosanna jackal
blanc vesti rapunzel rumani emilia
that worked once
idk how
I mean his auto teams should still be able to kill me lmao
All of my pvp units are in the 3rd row and below 
still lower than cindy 
@swift mango @tropic summit non bursting Jackal
Vesti ends the fight 1 second faster than RH/Doro
just kiddin'
oh nice thank you for testing, guess this confirms @swift mango 's theory

Jackal bug?
even outside burst? Again?
ok now that i look at their speed and your expected CP, maybe you're a tensy wee bit f*ked
but uh... let's see if there's hope 
what you using so i know which cards you already played?

what do you mean again? we just have a repeatable seasonal buff 
spaghetti code served with extra bug sauce 
They fixed a similar jackal bug in the past
What was it
le jackal gives extra dmg to le non broken as-is vesti
@umbral crown
Wait, give that Emilia back
Are you feeling the nuke power now? After so long?
@gritty ridge can you give me the CP for reference of this?
might be able to get helmt out of it, but i need benchmark
no, because she still kinda looks grey in my nikkepedia 
must be bugged 
i'll try open a ticket to support and ask to get her coloured again, like she was before 
Vesti is the 2.0 version 
Gimme a sec, phone dying
Gonna be like 20 min

20 mins?! i need to read my pg13 family friendly adult visual novel

that treasure miranda staring at me like "you see this sh*et?, i could've been laplaceT or drakeT but my owner said no"
Owner?
did i stutter? 
well time to go to bed and read this visual novel about a tanned college girl daily life
86
Good anime
we all need this kind of commander
Shikikan-sama
i hope not cuz that'd mean i'm out even faster
i've 3 teams that could maybe do anything
the other 2 are praying to god already

well, all of them lost lol
this tier chef♿
oh he's awake 
Go to sleep
did you take a video?
if T2 lost, there might be something wrong with your s.anis OLs
if T3 lost, there's something to fix with your indom or blanc
That reminds me I need to watch the new one piece episode
I see your suffix, and I use Emi burst 3 again this season.
but where's miranda
she's lonely and discarded
Gets rosaed
b1 miranda too.
Mine doesn't works 

oh so it's the comeback of emi miranda unlimited crit works
Waos
if it's not working I use off burst buffing ReiT next next time. 






