pvp-arena

[unique wagon]

I guess he is forced to pull her

[fathom rock]

That ain't the case

[oblique ridge]

Sounds a lot like Nero + Moran will be the main thing to beat her, and Rosanna counter is most likely on SG team trying to dismantle Vesti comp

[umbral belfry]

I hope but I wanna see it to believe it

[mystic rain]

doesnt vesti indom counter moran nero

[vapid lake]

So whale who's 20-40 sync lvl higher exclusive counter, got it

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

it's a possibility due to blanc countering moran dr

[mystic rain]

ya

[vapid lake]

If u lower lvl than ur opponent too bad then

[umbral belfry]

if nero stall loses to indom vesti

[placid bloom]

Moran Nero matchup is invest dependent yes

[oblique ridge]

There is no stopping the lucky bunny

[mystic rain]

if vesti indom beats moran nero and noah biscuit teams

[oblique ridge]

Except Siren stun if Blanc’s p1

[umbral belfry]

or even noah bisc vesti but blanc vesti seeks more likely

[mystic rain]

i thinks thats SSS tier dps

[umbral belfry]

yeahh..

well, we asked for pvp meta

[vapid lake]

I'm legit struggling to think of a team that can beat vesti besides just running another indom that's slower

[placid bloom]

just Soda stun Blanc + Vesti every time

[fathom rock]

Scar trina rosa centi jackal

[placid bloom]

not even that hard

[umbral belfry]

pray to soda stun rng

[mystic rain]

good news is vesti is shit on 2RL timing

[placid bloom]

they can't beat RNG

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/kolow-gif-22856605

[mystic rain]

so scarlet nuke still good

[fathom rock]

Introducing charge speed

[vapid lake]

Yea good luck using rosanna on the ppl in ur bracket that 40 sync lvl higher than u

[umbral belfry]

if it's 2rl indom scar loses

[vapid lake]

U cant lethal them

[oblique ridge]

So to check something, how big of an AoE is Vesti when she fires her first 4 RL shots?

[umbral belfry]

if it's 2rl noah scar also loses

[oblique ridge]

p1 through p3 are hit?

[mystic rain]

oh my god

[placid bloom]

yes 1-3

[north brook]

how much gen does vesti have

[umbral belfry]

actually someone showed a vid of vesti killing p1 scar so

[mystic rain]

clip SG

[placid bloom]

that's because they didn't have Soda stun

[north brook]

ok unit totally broken then got it

[mystic rain]

but she doesnt shoot till 2.5RL timing

[umbral belfry]

lemme see if I can find it again

[main trail]

what are the skill recommendations

[oblique ridge]

lol that’s an interesting advantage of being able to backload all of her RL shots until after Trina invincible on Scarlet expired

[mystic rain]

im going to backload on vesti

[umbral belfry]

[dim sapphire]

Hold on let her cook

[north brook]

unironically is this gonna be the new meta req to even defend xd

[umbral belfry]

granted I think this is due to p3 linked siren and vesti said ah ah ah

[ivory violet]

I saw this on one of the burst gen spreadsheets

For 2rl she doesn't do much but she gets faster over time

not sure if this is accurate tho

[fathom rock]

Charge speed can fix that probs

[umbral belfry]

but regardless, so as long as you're 2rl noah/indom vesti should beat 2rl scar. but a rosa on the scar team would be interesting to see

[gritty ridge]

So would she be good on 3rl team?

[umbral belfry]

haven't seen any tests tbh

[placid bloom]

if you 3RL you die

[vapid lake]

They can just avoid your soda rng team and kill the other 2 teams

[umbral belfry]

maybe? risky though

[placid bloom]

just like every other 3RL team

[gritty ridge]

Indom v indom

[vapid lake]

vesti is free win against one of your other 2 teams for sure

[umbral belfry]

ca 11 is gonna be fun

[fathom rock]

Vesti is 1 free win
Noah biscuit with optional siren 2nd free win

Its joever

[placid bloom]

hmm there should be enough time left on Vesti banner that I can pick her up after SAnis and SHelm

I will save

[umbral belfry]

lmk when there's a vid of nero stall vs any 2rl vesti

[oblique ridge]

Maybe they’ll release a Sakura like character for fire element

She bursts, take little to no dmg from TU Vesti

[placid bloom]

[worthy sorrel]

what are the cs breakpoints vesti wants? 🤔

[dim sapphire]

Yes

[umbral belfry]

I saw somewhere 10 cs? but idk how accurate that is. seems a bit low no?

wouldn't you wait the min of 15?

[sterile matrix]

Are there tricks with PVP positioning ?

[placid bloom]

if it's enough to get 2nd shot at 2RL I think it's fine

3rd/4th shot at 2RL is hard

[spiral onyx]

lol did they break Noah's invuln

[gritty ridge]

4 black lines+adjutant

[umbral belfry]

p1 and p2 are preferred for tanks/taunters. p4 is ideally the 'safest' position

[dim sapphire]

Yes keripo test nero moran vs vesti

[umbral belfry]

huh?

it's time

[placid bloom]

p1-3 is safe for B1 still

just not necessarily safe for B2/3

[umbral belfry]

bisc p2

[vapid lake]

Thats a very dead biscuit

[umbral belfry]

that's a no no

[gritty ridge]

Isnt bisc p2 standard for sanis moran

[vapid lake]

[umbral belfry]

I've seen pepper p2 sometimes

[placid bloom]

SAnis Moran is dead team

[umbral belfry]

this also lmao

[placid bloom]

nobody run that since a year ago

[north brook]

sanis moran was never good

[gritty ridge]

People run it now

[north brook]

it was always cope bait

[spare nimbus]

Lets goo guys i managed to get 4 lines on my vesti, unfortunately i only have 6 lines in total 😭 still very good for only spending 4 rocks to OL and 3 rocks to change effects, im pretty happy, all i gotta do now is CP pad

[umbral belfry]

guess if you're forced to if you don't have nero stall built

[north brook]

sanis really needs noah invincibility or blanc indom to get enough time

[umbral belfry]

not bad for initial rolls

[spare nimbus]

Also what are the skill investment necessities? 777?

[fathom rock]

20 cs?

[umbral belfry]

too early to say tbh but 7 7 7 seems fine for min invest maybe?

[spare nimbus]

Uh ill have to check but they are all 4%+

[north brook]

think on vesti her s1 is the least impact

[umbral belfry]

I'm at 4 7 7 but will likely raise s1 to 7 and likely burst to 10? I have to re-read s2

[spiral onyx]

I'm watching my CA replay and it looks like Noah's invuln doesn't last the full 3s or something

[north brook]

max s2 and burst

[umbral belfry]

yeah I agreem that's why I stopped on 4 for s1

[vapid lake]

4/10/10

[umbral belfry]

sounds about right yeah

[vapid lake]

but since vesti is god emperor of pvp, you want 10/10/10 for cp

So really this isn't a question

[spare nimbus]

Lol bet

[vapid lake]

Because she'll be used forever from now on for the foreseeable future

[north brook]

guess ima need to hope for the standard banner to gift me more vesti copies, somehow i only got 1 vesti and nothing else in 200 pulls

[vapid lake]

Might as well try to cp gap ur opponents

[gritty ridge]

So if sanis moran is bad then why should I pull her

[fathom rock]

In 2025 we pull sanis for pve

[gritty ridge]

I have mmast for buffer

[fathom rock]

Sanis is one of her kind tho for electric

[placid bloom]

SAnis the only way you getting reload speed on elec

[ivory violet]

Yeah Sanis is still one of the best pve electric units

rouge mari cindy sanis xmaiden is busted team

[gritty ridge]

Hypercarry cindy solves all of my electric problems

[worthy sorrel]

i did 7/10/10

[fathom rock]

Then solo raid rolls around

[ivory violet]

SAnis is one of the best cindy buffers so she makes cindy even stronger

[brazen ledge]

omfg i'm actually so unbelievably dumb

[ivory violet]

Out of all rerunning chars next month SAnis is def the best one

[umbral belfry]

[brazen ledge]

I wanted to pull on vesti's banner and i accidentally got eunhwa...

[placid bloom]

[brazen ledge]

I got her in a multi so it's alright ig ?

[vapid lake]

i threw 10 pull at emma banner and got siren from instead, that good enough

10 pull at eunhwa banner got nothing

Other 2 absolute members skipped me

[gritty ridge]

I only pull neon

[vapid lake]

Vesti is the only one that matters

[brazen ledge]

and 40 pulls for this other bih

[vapid lake]

She doesnt need her teammates

[glad glade]

Its not like you need them. From what I hear absolute team is pointless outside of fire raids unless if the new pilgrim is true damage

[vapid lake]

Correct

[gritty ridge]

Hansel and gretel drop and both are pure sustainwd

[brazen ledge]

Good in pvp mostly apparently.

[lunar pawn]

so how's vesti in pvp

[fathom rock]

Cracked

[vapid lake]

God-emperor

[lunar pawn]

burst gen?

[glad glade]

Besti

[north brook]

they will make eunwha/emma necessary with new true damage units other than vesti, only question is when

[spare nimbus]

Any idea where vesti would fit into my current defense?

[vapid lake]

Better, she murders everyone

[north brook]

srosanna was pretty bad for over a year until mihara/raven

[lunar pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/stretchy-pants-nacho-libre-gif-11137293363835853526

[unique wagon]

Team 1 is obsolete

[spare nimbus]

What should i change it to

[north brook]

shes flat out not balanced with pvp in mind

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1402587830709915668/1407862015006871592/2025-08-21_06-55-02.mp4?ex=68a7a52d&is=68a653ad&hm=056115fe8b1c734607072f1737623e9ae4a3577486005284ed6c43c9b91ac0c0& Just 1 clip of how crazy vesti's dmg is, she does enough dmg to kill a team 4 times over

[north brook]

xd

[unique wagon]

Nvm just use it no one will counter u for that anyway

[glad glade]

Iirc she has Clip rl burst gen but won’t fire her shots at the 2RL mark naturally

[ivory violet]

I'd just use whatever metaish teams you have with high CP

The most solid defense is to simply cp gap ur opponent

[unique wagon]

Damn she shoots 20 in 1 FB?

I thought its just 16

[vapid lake]

Yes

Shot 1-4 before fb,
Shot 5-8 blocked by noah, this is right as fb start
Then she has enough time to shoot 12 more times

[north brook]

that really doesnt work if ur dealing with other pvp players tbh

[vapid lake]

And 4 shots is enough damage to kill an entire team normally

[north brook]

cp gap is only enough to deter casuals really

[umbral belfry]

thanks I got my confirmation that 2rl noah bisc is rip too

[vapid lake]

[unique wagon]

I shall need a pve test to see if she needs 16 or 20

[lunar pawn]

so she's like an ein that keeps damaging the enemy team over and over? would love to see her dmg vs a stall comp

[brazen ledge]

good placement here ?

[umbral belfry]

still waiting on nero stall vs 2rl vesti

[vapid lake]

Better comparison is emilia who fires fully charged shot 4 times during full burst 10 seconds

[north brook]

shes not like ein, all her dmg is true dmg

[fathom rock]

Me think 20 and just manual reload her before her fb
Best of both worlds
Anyway I go eep

[umbral belfry]

I don't think rh is needed for vesti bc she does sm dmg already

[ivory violet]

yes it does

[spare nimbus]

I have 3x 4.92 cs and 1x 4.63 cs, how much is that in total? I think i heard somewhere that 4.92 doesn’t add up properly

[lunar pawn]

sooo, does she fit anywhere in current SPA meta? with how slow she seems to be and a world where scarlet + trina exists

[spare nimbus]

Is it 19% or 18%

[vapid lake]

Still waiting to see a clip of vesti vs moran nero etc stall team

[fathom rock]

Please send a video of thag vesti shooting in pvp alongside a 0 charge speed rocket launcher

[raven plover]

same speed you add them first, then round it. thats 20 total still

[spare nimbus]

Oh nice

[umbral belfry]

the teams I tested were two 2rl indoms

jack vesti blanc centi lap
jack vesti blanc centi siren (but this mightve been 2rl due to jack bug)

vesti + lap dmg was insane and killed p2 siren pre burst. vesti siren might stop slower indom from winning

[north brook]

moran nero prob only way to stop vesti, with the big 60% dr, if thats not enough tho its joever

[vapid lake]

hoboman was right vesti is the second coming of jesus

||To make all our defense even more useless||

[umbral belfry]

if you see a clip lmk please

[lunar pawn]

so you telling me I should roll for vesti even if I don't participate in CA?

[rose oracle]

hoboman is always right

[oblique ridge]

This is what ShiftUp has to say about TU Vesti

[raven plover]

well if its boosted with blanc redhood it wont be enough, moran nero already dies against that before besti

[dim sapphire]

Just buy level

[lunar pawn]

what

[umbral belfry]

say sike

[north brook]

vesti doesnt have the elem adv on helm tho? or do they break nero moran

[umbral belfry]

True damage

[oblique ridge]

Technically, you can defend vs Vesti without needing to have Vesti yourself.

Just be the bigger whale and have no active pvp competing whales in your SPA

[spare nimbus]

Bro i cant find any that dont have cs 😭

[north brook]

true damage does get reduced by dr, think it only bypasses def

[umbral belfry]

I hope you're right

[spare nimbus]

Would helm work? She has 0 cs

[lunar pawn]

vesti over cindy in the noise+noah comp now? no buffs though

[north brook]

this obv why shes owning noah tho, noah defense is all def xd

[vapid lake]

she don't need buffs

[raven plover]

its the boost, those 2 pretty much moran nero enemy

at least from my experience, its losing to
redhood blanc sbs
redhood blanc emi

[dim sapphire]

Pls nobody tell nobody about vesti in my bracket

[silent sonnet]

how's vesti

[silent sonnet]

don't worry i need to save gems for collab

[raven plover]

1 boost nero moran can handle it, maybe not for vesti but idk

[oblique ridge]

What the they didn’t put any pull packs in Vesti’s cash shop set

[ivory violet]

looks like she changes ghe meta in pvp

[vapid lake]

All it takes is 1 guy to start using vesti. Everyone else will start copying once they catch on

[ivory violet]

kinda sux in pve

[vapid lake]

that means u can't use it too on def

[oblique ridge]

I can’t be sure yet that she sucks in PvE

[silent sonnet]

mann i just build my teams for pvp yesterday to keep top 30 and they come out with new meta pvp damage dealer?

[oblique ridge]

I saw a few dmg reports but I’m not sure still

[spare nimbus]

Wait vesti bypasses noah’s burst?

Im confused what u guys mean

[oblique ridge]

She’s not unique in PvE though, so you aren’t missing out if you skip her for PvE

[ivory violet]

Maybe it depends on her teams?

[oblique ridge]

Like players are already winning without her, y’know

PvP on the other hand, skip at your peril

[silent sonnet]

she is garbage for pve

so that's why i came to check the pvp bros

[ivory violet]

emma eunhwa vesti ein volume my ein was out dpsing vesti on fire weak boss

It was kind of hard to watch

[umbral belfry]

noah won't save her team from vesti basically

[vapid lake]

if you're competitive at all in your sp arena you have to pull vesti no questions asked

[umbral belfry]

yeah she might block the nuke if it gets that far. but you're still dead from dmg after nuke

[silent sonnet]

i doubt top 30 bracket is competitive luckily for me

[raven plover]

vesti gen clip sg or around laplace tier?

[oblique ridge]

TU Vesti has potential to delete Noah before she gets to burst, if the TU Vesti is strong enough (because of elemental advantage - think about it, 100% ele 50% atk TU Vesti hitting Noah).

This is what they mean. Also, even if Noah invincibles, TU Vesti is the type to be powerful through entire Full Burst duration - so after Noah invincible drops, TU Vesti melts Noah’s team

[placid bloom]

she is clip gen but not at 2RL timing

she is like 2.6RL timing

[umbral belfry]

she's ✨ special✨

[placid bloom]

or something

[glad glade]

So basically emilia on steroids

[lunar pawn]

defender plays: biscuit

[raven plover]

so a bit better than clip sg?

[placid bloom]

yes better than clip SG

[umbral belfry]

prayed for the day those who missed out on emi would get her and we got one better

[placid bloom]

because less feed

[vapid lake]

Yes it's easier to think of vesti as an emilia that can fires fully charged shot 4 times during full burst

[lunar pawn]

doesn't she only get to fire once in 2RL time? how do we really measure her gen?

[glad glade]

I kneel to God emperor besti

[oblique ridge]

Hime tested that a few times. Apparently TU Vesti is so mighty that even if Biscuit saves Noah, the team perishes later It’s scary

[placid bloom]

you just natural 2RL her without factoring her gen if you want 2RL

otherwise you just have to 2.5RL her

[vapid lake]

Vesti does enough dmg on her autoattacks alone to kill a team 4 times over

[raven plover]

ok, maybe

[vapid lake]

Not even counting the burst skill nuke itself

[lunar pawn]

SPEED EMILIA

[mystic rain]

she has an aoe nuke and her auto attacks

nice

[umbral belfry]

[oblique ridge]

And somehow this monster loses in PvE

[umbral belfry]

lore accurate vesti gameplay

for pvp

[mystic rain]

balanced

in all things

[lunar pawn]

[spare nimbus]

Anis was the only RL that didnt have cs so i almost got cp diffed 💀

[oblique ridge]

You’re not even going to spare the mortals in your CA

[umbral belfry]

why isn't lap in p5

[lunar pawn]

what CA

[spare nimbus]

The guy asked me to use a unit that doesn’t have CS to compare, my Laplace has cs

[lunar pawn]

I got a dude gemming in my SPA to keep rank FIVE

don't get me started on rank 4...and top 3 are like 100 levels above me

[mystic rain]

i have some mfer who hit me literally last minute for top 3

[spare nimbus]

Wait im dumb nvm what am i even talking about

I forgot laplace was on my team 💀

[spare nimbus]

I guess I desperately need ammo rolls on my vesti now, cant have her sitting at 8 ammo

[umbral belfry]

LMFAO

[spare nimbus]

Oh wait i forgot to put a cube on her too lol

What is up with me today man

12/12/12

Jk i have her at 4/10/9 rn

[umbral belfry]

min maybe. someone said 4/10/10 which makes sense

[spare nimbus]

(Dont have mats to upgrade her burst 😭)

Man and all my other absolute units are at 1/1/1

[lunar pawn]

I don't have doll mats

[spare nimbus]

This solo raid is about to be hell

[vapid lake]

Trick question. Vesti is 10/10/10 because she's meta forever and u want all the cp u can get

[dim sapphire]

i gave up on sr kinda

[acoustic light]

so u can't cs to get 2rl?

[dim sapphire]

fine with top 1% ~ top 200

[lunar pawn]

I just want top 3%

[spare nimbus]

I just try and get top 3% every time for the thingy

I forgot what it is called omg

[leaden canyon]

what's the word on vesti lads

[north brook]

bork

[placid bloom]

well not if you want to have 20 ammo

[lunar pawn]

wdym you forgot, we got 50000 of them in CA

FRAMES

[spare nimbus]

right thank you 💀

[umbral belfry]

what happened to your solo raid museum doll mats

[lunar pawn]

you're alive

[vapid lake]

if he is like me then i spent all of them as soon as i got them

[umbral belfry]

meta

[lunar pawn]

gone trying to get mmast to sr15 (she's sr12 now)

[vapid lake]

Compulsive gambling once i see i have hundreds of them in stock

[acoustic light]

ah u need 2-3 max ammo + ele + atk?

[leaden canyon]

[north brook]

i just use the new mats to attempt to catch up on meta units that alr exist

without spending, only end up on catch up most of the time

[vapid lake]

Pvp can get away with only 1 ammo line, as long as it lets u reach 20 shots with bastion (so 14 ammo)

[placid bloom]

actually you can get 150% ammo with tier 12 line + tier 13 line, that gives 73+77%

[umbral belfry]

knew it was a good idea to save my doll mats if vesti was gonna be op in pvp

[placid bloom]

14 ammo doesn't give you 20 ammo with Bastion, you only get 17

[vapid lake]

Sorry i fail maths

[placid bloom]

you only did 10 shot so no 2nd proc

[vapid lake]

[umbral belfry]

wait do we use bastion with vesti

[vapid lake]

Bastion or tempering

For pvp

[umbral belfry]

[lunar pawn]

why not resi

[umbral belfry]

I used resi in my tests

[north brook]

she wont reload

[acoustic light]

unless u have good max ammo lines then yea

[north brook]

before enemy is dead

[vapid lake]

Because entire enemy team dead in 1 full burst don't need to reload if u can shoot 20 times

[umbral belfry]

but bastion does make sense

[umbral belfry]

all I got to my name is 2 ammo lines

[vapid lake]

My vesti is 19 ammo with 60% + 68% it's doable

[umbral belfry]

wait mines at 19 too

[vapid lake]

Two 68% lines should be 20

[lunar pawn]

awkward lines placement ngl

[umbral belfry]

but one ammo line is line 1 so it's likely gonna go

[spare nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/triggered-mike-gif-20881169

Me with 4x cs and literally no other lines

[rich ledge]

Is vesti one of the top 3 SP team now?

[vapid lake]

she's number 1

[umbral belfry]

idek what team I wanna take out for vesti

[placid bloom]

kick Cinderella

[umbral belfry]

my def is scar cindy nero stall

[rich ledge]

She overtakes scarlet?

[placid bloom]

outdated char now

[spare nimbus]

I think this guy likes vesti

[lunar pawn]

not taking out any teams, cp diff too big still

[umbral belfry]

but I like cindy

[spare nimbus]

#1 vesti glazer

[acoustic light]

does it matter u just cp gap anyway

[vapid lake]

Yea im pretty confident she is better than og scarlet ||i'm probably biased because i still dont have her fk this game||

[umbral belfry]

hey you said it not me

[lunar pawn]

cindy over 100k cp over vesti atm

[vapid lake]

i kicked ein out

[umbral belfry]

rip

[leaden canyon]

vesti is that good huh? welp time to build her

[umbral belfry]

she actually is yes lol

[ivory violet]

I got pulled og scarlet for the first time today on vesti banner. Only took 2 years

[vapid lake]

She does enough dmg to kill a normal team 4 times over, noah biscuit wont save u https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1402587830709915668/1407862015006871592/2025-08-21_06-55-02.mp4?ex=68a7a52d&is=68a653ad&hm=056115fe8b1c734607072f1737623e9ae4a3577486005284ed6c43c9b91ac0c0&

[lunar pawn]

real question is, should I roll for eunhwa and emma now that I got vesti

[spare nimbus]

Should i replace noah cindy with blanc vesti, and put noah on my emilia team?

[leaden canyon]

holy, are dupes even necessary

[acoustic light]

apparently shes meh in pve so idts

[raven plover]

if scarlet is queen, besti is the king both dies to ros anyway

[vapid lake]

to cp gap your opponent = yes

[umbral belfry]

wait I thought of a scenario of indom vesti vs indom scar

but then i thought of what if vesti snipes blanc before she can indom so

[leaden canyon]

considering im having to punch up against whales ill probably need them lol

[vapid lake]

Whales in ur group c7 vesti once they hear about how good she is

[acoustic light]

they already have

[leaden canyon]

beo they dont even have actual pvp teams

[umbral belfry]

yeah i wonder who

[leaden canyon]

they just cp gap

[umbral belfry]

aceross gonna come running in here

[graceful grotto]

Vesti is crazy ngl

Probably even scar on steroid lol

Or a super Saiyan Ein but RL

[vapid lake]

She is emilia if emilia could fire her burst shot 4 times
And still kill the enemy team with only 1 of those 4 shots

[acoustic light]

this will summon him ✂️ ✂️

[graceful grotto]

She has insta nuke + nuke on delay

That's super crazy

Looks like Cindy is out for the next CA

[umbral belfry]

time

[graceful grotto]

Cindy powercrept is real

[umbral belfry]

my sbs is so gone

[vapid lake]

i can't kick cindy out she's too high cp

[graceful grotto]

She's getting replaced soon in raids too

[umbral belfry]

at least we can still use sbs in kraken

[vapid lake]

End of the day cp gap still the best defense so rmb that before u happily go kick cindy out of ur team

[graceful grotto]

My issue with Cindy is she needs baby sitting too much on her burst gen

[vapid lake]

[graceful grotto]

But yeah still op tho

[raven plover]

ok this means next pvp unit gonna be gigatank to counter besti, 100% dr on burst b1 trust

[loud sonnet]

How does new vesti perform in pvp?

[umbral belfry]

meta, roll

we're trying to think of a team that beats her

rosa is likely

[lunar pawn]

cp gap team, the usual

[umbral belfry]

and still praying for nero stall

[graceful grotto]

Super meta

Imagine Cindy burst + Emilia burst combine

[loud sonnet]

What about her burst gen?

[lunar pawn]

how useful are vesti's s1 and s2 in pvp?

[graceful grotto]

Standard RL but slightly faster since she shot fast

[vapid lake]

s2 is where all her dmg is

[umbral belfry]

s1 is

[vapid lake]

S2 and burst

[graceful grotto]

7 10 10 it is

[graceful grotto]

Did u get all 3 TU unit?

[umbral belfry]

cp gap for all 10s

[vapid lake]

I threw 110 at vesti to get her, then 10 at the other 2 to try and one tap them and didnt get them so im skipping the other 2

Got siren from emma banner though better than getting emma

[dim sapphire]

Put vesti in noah team or blanc ?

[leaden canyon]

btw is she 10/10/10?

[lunar pawn]

am I doing it right

[graceful grotto]

Blanc better but Noah is fine

[umbral belfry]

it's a little tricky? but not bad burst gen

[loud sonnet]

Aight I'm pulling

[graceful grotto]

I'll say 5 10 10

[vapid lake]

Actually 4/10/10. But because this is pvp. U want 10/10/10 for cp

[umbral belfry]

blanc imo

[spare nimbus]

NOOO WHAT U MESSED UP UR VESTI COMPLETELY

YOU WILL BE FOREVER SCREWED IN PVP

[graceful grotto]

Bro is Eunhwa in rl

[lunar pawn]

[spare nimbus]

😭

[lunar pawn]

let me see if I can squeeze sr5

[umbral belfry]

believe in rng

[graceful grotto]

I SR15 her immediately

[spare nimbus]

uhhhh this is not vesti

[lunar pawn]

ok I couldn't get her past r0

[graceful grotto]

Cope she's op in raid

[vapid lake]

That is absolutely worth it if pvp. If for pve...

[graceful grotto]

Trust her true dmg be good in neutral kewk

[dim sapphire]

Someone pull the original vesti for the memes

[eager mountain]

trust me it takes a lot for a dps to be "good" in neutral

even cindy is starting to fall behind cuz its pure elec

[twilit bay]

What do I do for T3 here?
😔

[vapid lake]

Pure cope

[lunar pawn]

ok cindy now only 67k cp over vesti, worth replacing now?

[spare nimbus]

cp gap

[vapid lake]

Cindy is the standard for neutral dps and vesti isn't beating her

[twilit bay]

I can only do reverse cp gap

[graceful grotto]

What if what if

[spare nimbus]

time for 💳

[graceful grotto]

Cindy AND vesti in future neutral comp kewkkkkk

[spare nimbus]

[graceful grotto]

Sanis replace

[leaden canyon]

Well thats SR 15 on vesti done, I actually hit a 1.2% on the SR 5 to get it to SR 10 lmao

[lunar pawn]

so is this the best rookie defense atm?

[graceful grotto]

[graceful grotto]

**** but grats

[graceful grotto]

Bro becoming Nami-san

[umbral belfry]

cindy I guess

[vapid lake]

https://tenor.com/view/digimon-anime-japanese-cartoon-credit-card-technology-gif-5607300

[twilit bay]

Would be pretty slow without rumani or helm

Oh wait, Emilia

[leaden canyon]

do we know which overloads we are fishing for besides attack and ele

[umbral belfry]

yeah emi works

[lunar pawn]

#pvp-arena message how do I remake these SPA teams with vesti now?

[covert lintel]

#gacha-rolls message

[umbral belfry]

2 ammo apparently

[hollow lagoon]

Is vesti good?

[umbral belfry]

roll

[vapid lake]

She need enough ammo to go up to 20 at least, rest atk ele

[hollow lagoon]

Quat?

[acoustic light]

wait rosa beats her so all I gotta do is match up into ur vesti team now

[umbral belfry]

meta

[leaden canyon]

New pvp meta apparently

[hollow lagoon]

Ok

[rich ledge]

The 3 SP team is scarlet Cindy and vesti?

[umbral belfry]

I haven't seen a rosa clip so I'm only guessing. also stop it

[covert lintel]

Who's that

[acoustic light]

its ok Ill lose in groups again

[umbral belfry]

actually no bc if I run lap you already know what's gonna happen to you

[graceful grotto]

I have her at 19 jeez

[umbral belfry]

zappy zap

[vapid lake]

If its pvp just equip bastion cube, problem solved

[lunar pawn]

nikke deck doesn't have her burst gen yet

[vapid lake]

Pve though u lose a bit of dps because of that missing 4th shot

||But her dps is shit to begin with so ||

[acoustic light]

she does bully my sg team

[umbral belfry]

[leaden canyon]

do you just go x4 ammo or do crit for 2 lines

[umbral belfry]

I've been seeing ele atk 2x ammo

People seem to be split on cs?

[strange linden]

Damn Vesti is meta? That's rough I was investing a lot on nero/moran rn

[leaden canyon]

ah so the other two lines are cs

[umbral belfry]

but those 3 should be definite, wait a bit more for cs

[lunar pawn]

she gets 100% charge speed on her s1 though? why would you need CS

[umbral belfry]

yeah that's what people argue

which I do agree

[leaden canyon]

I would think like crit rate or crit damage

[covert lintel]

@lusty gull

[placid bloom]

it's just a matter of if 2 cs lines lets her get an extra shot at 2RL timing or not

[leaden canyon]

ahh

[vapid lake]

So she can fire sooner at the start of a match to squeeze in 1 or 2 more projectile for burst gen before 2.5rl timing

[eager mountain]

1st shot

[hollow lagoon]

Not vesti…

[umbral belfry]

oof

[leaden canyon]

I got a crown dupe

[placid bloom]

another Scarlet dupe sufferer like me

[lunar pawn]

she doesn't make it to 2 shots in 2RL time currently?

[eager mountain]

would lose to 2rl with same cs
i think its more important to sneak another shots before b2 burst, where cs can be relevant

[leaden canyon]

bruh

[covert lintel]

You should send a meme first

[leaden canyon]

I'm getting trolled

[placid bloom]

[covert lintel]

So what's the ideal stat for vesti?

[lunar pawn]

Idk what gear/lines to reroll atm

[umbral belfry]

ele atk ammo (cs?)

[eager mountain]

need more time to find optimal cs

[umbral belfry]

patience

[lunar pawn]

I wanted to test vesti in rookie but already done my 5 attacks for the day rip

[vapid lake]

At the very least we know need 2 ammo line to fire 20 time during 10 seconds, but i'm questioning if we even need 20 times, because most teams die on shot number 12

[umbral belfry]

they won't survive that long

[covert lintel]

We're just 5 hours from reset and you already spent it all?

[lunar pawn]

at burst, does each vesti shot count as a nuke then?

[vapid lake]

my thoughts exactly

[lunar pawn]

I always do my dailies asap

[vapid lake]

1 volley from vesti = 1 emilia burst fully charged shot

easier to think of it that way

[lunar pawn]

wait let me read her skills again

[mystic rain]

chat what r yur thoughts on eunhwa pvp

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1402623592188870806/1407823482670153850/NIKKE_2025-08-21_03-24-18.mp4_-_PotPlayer_2025-08-21_03-27-23.mp4?ex=68a7814a&is=68a62fca&hm=7c07985f367278fc25a035d75a2f167b34d37606ce0da4fefb8ce43846e098d3& do we even need more than 12 ammo?

[lunar pawn]

emilia burst vs vesti burst

[loud sonnet]

Sadly I only got 1 copy

[umbral belfry]

[vapid lake]

Vesti's burst gigabuffs her autoattacks

[umbral belfry]

you got a month it's all good

[lunar pawn]

you only need 1 copy

[hollow lagoon]

….. couple hundred pulls later no vesti

[vapid lake]

The 500% damage nuke is almost like nothing

But a bonus on top of it

[lunar pawn]

how hard does her raw nuke compare to scarlet+trina?

unbuffed except 4 10 10

[vapid lake]

Much weaker

[dim sapphire]

can vesti get away with level 7 burst

[vapid lake]

Scarlet alone already like 800%-900%, dont rmb the exact % because i don't own her

Vesti only 500%

[dim sapphire]

im mat brokie

[eager mountain]

the minimum vesti cs should allow her to sneak all her volley right before her 2rl burst mini nuke lands

[umbral belfry]

mine still nukes at lv7 so yeah

[eager mountain]

assuming if she doesnt do that already

[lunar pawn]

even accounting 60% true damage buff?

[umbral belfry]

so sounds like you do want at least some cs then. Just dunno what's a good range

[lunar pawn]

or does it apply after the nuke

[vapid lake]

That im not sure her nuke has a weird delay like ein's

[lunar pawn]

btw where can I slap vesti here? I don't like my moran team cus siren atm #pvp-arena message

[vapid lake]

doesn't really matter, she's killing peopel with her autoattacks, the nuke isn't even needed

[loud sonnet]

There's no other opponents others are cp gap

[covert lintel]

Change cindy
It's not worth spa defense

[lunar pawn]

I mean, indom will kill vesti

[umbral belfry]

that was was quick

[lunar pawn]

1654k to 1588k cp

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1040682768104960112/1407881405853339759/nikke.exe_2025.08.21_-_06.57.24.01.mp4?ex=68a7b73c&is=68a665bc&hm=6d8860eaa1107fdb70ffceff1dca292529435f2b290171b3739226571afc4a18&

[covert lintel]

Then just mlb her

[umbral belfry]

not if you're also indom with siren to win over slow indom

[vapid lake]

Yet another clip of vesti murdering people with just autoattacks if ppl stil laren't convinced

Wins by the 12th shot again

[north brook]

scar nuke generally always bigger considering her self 66% atk buff, why shes always been much stronger than other vanilla aoes

[dim sapphire]

Queen pvp god

SSS

[umbral belfry]

the goddess of victory

[spare nimbus]

lol i guess i just found my new rookie team lol

[north brook]

so even tho its 880% i think, closer to 1400, plus any buffing

[digital whale]

Vesti Cube ?

[strange linden]

It feels like an hard counter to nero moran too

[umbral belfry]

bastion

[ivory violet]

prob the charge speed one no?

[umbral belfry]

I'm waiting to see a clip but nothing yetm so we don't know

[vapid lake]

Nobody here or in commcord has a clip of that matchup yet, maybe they'll make vesti have to fire her 13th shot

[digital whale]

OL0 Speed

[strange linden]

After all this time investing dozen of rocks and doll exp on this team and all of this might be wasted by a single unit
I'm actually salty

[vapid lake]

Load time longer than the actual match

[loud sonnet]

I didn't use any of my purple and yellow kit yet able to get sr15

[umbral belfry]

rip noah bisc teams

[lunar pawn]

flat broke here, no doll mats and surface content got kicked to next decade

[umbral belfry]

at least SR is soon

[spare nimbus]

30 second load time is insane 💀

[vapid lake]

Oh right sr start today

[lunar pawn]

true

[umbral belfry]

[lunar pawn]

I just want her to be at a cozy sr5

[umbral belfry]

not gonna aim for sr15?

[vapid lake]

I might get to sr15 her afterall

[lunar pawn]

nah, I don't do CA, no need to minmax that hard

[strange linden]

SP arena will be even more of a joke now, just winning def by cp gap

[leaden canyon]

what do for SP now

[umbral belfry]

fair

[digital whale]

max ammun 251 charge speed 0 💀

[covert lintel]

Should aim for sr15
She will be meta for solo raid too

[digital whale]

OL me

[lunar pawn]

Idk either, send help

[north brook]

defense no longer possible, very epic

[umbral belfry]

I heard that she's cheeks in pve

[umbral belfry]

do it

[covert lintel]

Even bosses with part?

[rich ledge]

What's the cookie cutter SP def 3 teams now?

[umbral belfry]

I'm not sure on that. I only looked in the discussion thread about vesti but they're not impressed for pve

[leaden canyon]

I actually hit that 2.2% on blues lol

[lunar pawn]

vesti seems to be ass for pve, yea, why I'm not particularly keen on going beyond sr5

[hollow lagoon]

How’s vesti’a burst gen?

[umbral belfry]

[umbral belfry]

looks like less than clip rl but more than clip sg?

[leaden canyon]

Surley the trio is good for SR, right?

[umbral crown]

[lunar pawn]

not gonna roll for eunhwa+emma

[vapid lake]

Yea but after fire weak? Probably benched

[hollow lagoon]

Good nuff for me then

[vapid lake]

For pve it seems not good

[lunar pawn]

even if fire weak, if not true damage bait then prob benched too

[strange linden]

Even with Emma and eunwha?

[vapid lake]

They'll replace cindy team in fire weak at best

[north brook]

there prob wont be off elem teams in sr within next year, kinda expensive

[umbral belfry]

haven't checked that far into it so I'm not personally sure

[spare nimbus]

does vesti even need a good burst 1 and 2 buffer? or can her burst wipe a whole team by itself

[strange linden]

What a joke, only here to ruin pvp

[lunar pawn]

copium

[umbral belfry]

I've seen her wipe with noah bisc and some other b1 that wasn't rh so yes

if you choose to do noah var and not blanc

[graceful grotto]

manage to squeeze triple 2RL

[vapid lake]

here i run vesti with 0 buffer, she still kills everyone in 4 shots except the target protected by biscuit https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1402587830709915668/1407862015006871592/2025-08-21_06-55-02.mp4?ex=68a7a52d&is=68a653ad&hm=056115fe8b1c734607072f1737623e9ae4a3577486005284ed6c43c9b91ac0c0&

[umbral belfry]

should prolly put jackal p1 to avoid siren on vesti

[lunar pawn]

would be a shame if the opp had siren

[umbral belfry]

LOL

[umbral crown]

Next CA gonna be wild

[vapid lake]

I can still increase my vesti dmg by bringing her to 10/10/10 and sr15 too i'm nowhere near done

[umbral belfry]

vesti besti gonna win it with vesti

[vapid lake]

Only thing stopping me is no resources left

[umbral crown]

[lunar pawn]

meanwhile me, not a CA participant

[vapid lake]

I kicked ein out for vesti it's over

My girl can finally retire from fighting in wars and fight clubs to go study full time

[strange linden]

Vesti's doing true dmg
Isn't a part of nero/moran strength is Moran's Burst giving a lot of DEF? That's basically useless

[lunar pawn]

dmg reduction, isn't it

[vapid lake]

Moran give damage reduction not def

[spare nimbus]

would something like this work?

or is it not fast enough

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

yes but make sure to check your links

[unique wagon]

Moran does give herself DEF btw

[spare nimbus]

vesti not linked

[lunar pawn]

Idek vesti's gen so Idk

[umbral belfry]

oh ita def fast enough lmao

[umbral belfry]

then I would put a clip gen instead of either helm or lap to ake vesti linked

[umbral crown]

Make sure vesti gets indom

[strange linden]

Oh yeah there's damage taken down and def up
Not sure if 35% is enough though

[vapid lake]

Yea the risk there is vesti not getting jackal link, with 2 other b3 dps on the team

[spare nimbus]

so centi instead of laplace i guess?

[umbral belfry]

you could

[spare nimbus]

should i put blanc in p2 or p3

[umbral belfry]

I'm gonna assume this is rookie so you have a lot more leeway

[spare nimbus]

or does it even matter lol

[umbral belfry]

p3

[spare nimbus]

and vesti p2?

omg im dumb ofc p2

otherwise she wont burst 💀

[lunar pawn]

I don't wanna put my half assed vesti in my defenses yet, don't wanna alert people

[umbral belfry]

almost bricked yourself out of a potential vesti indom

[fiery parcel]

Hello. How good is vesti?

[lunar pawn]

yes

[umbral belfry]

yes

[digital whale]

is it good

[fiery parcel]

#team-building says vesti is OP

[spare nimbus]

wrong vesti is actually trash

[umbral belfry]

and they are right roll

[umbral crown]

People not gonna skip vesti like some did with emi

[fiery parcel]

Waiiiiit. Im confused

Yes or no?

[umbral crown]

Si

[fiery parcel]

Or is @spare nimbus trolling?

[umbral crown]

[spare nimbus]

she is very good bro

don't listen to hime

[umbral belfry]

she's meta

[umbral crown]

Go pull, invrst, test and you will notice the difference

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

[lunar pawn]

vesti is the unstoppable force now, we're missing the immovable object though

[fiery parcel]

4/4/4 good enough for now? I dont have the mats

[lunar pawn]

4 10 10, but sure

[umbral belfry]

s2 and burst are her main skills

[umbral crown]

Max skill, max doll and max core thats your homework

[umbral belfry]

rosy do you think nero stall can survive vesti

[umbral crown]

probably... no since besto vesti gonna be with blanc RH

[twilit bay]

I can try if you want. what team?

[umbral belfry]

pref a blanc one. one with and one without rh please

[umbral crown]

Ein Blanc RH can already delete nero team

[vapid lake]

maybe it's time to bring back unkillable noise https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1356091730616782909/m2-res_360p.mp4?ex=68a72c17&is=68a5da97&hm=c1c9f3be6e51bec1eb3590de4de42a0a54c62f12d1533c7600d3777631d8597e&

[umbral belfry]

id assume it'd have to be 2.5 or 2rl to avoid helm snipe?

[twilit bay]

Yeah

[umbral crown]

2.5 nero if anything for moran dmg red

[umbral belfry]

then 2rl blanc vesti it is

[lunar pawn]

how do we even build that without bricking the 2 other teams

[twilit bay]

?

[lunar pawn]

thelm+jackal 💀

[twilit bay]

Oh wait, this is fast enough

[umbral belfry]

2rl scar with no jack
jack vesti blanc clip rl lap/xmaid
cindy? emi?

[lunar pawn]

siren

[twilit bay]

Vesti instead of Drake

[umbral belfry]

mind trying jack vesti blanc clip rl siren?

with siren linked

[twilit bay]

Wouldn't that be 3rl?

[leaden canyon]

How much burst gen does she have?

[lunar pawn]

slow

[umbral belfry]

my own test reached 2rl with siren. and nero and morsn def make it 2rl

[twilit bay]

Oh, ok

forgot about feed

[leaden canyon]

You think this can be 2RL? if her gen is the same as helms its for sure 2RL

[umbral belfry]

altho that could ve bc of jack double proc. but currently it's a 2rl team with proper feed

[lunar pawn]

don't count on feed, if enemy runs 5 rl/sr you're cooked

[strange linden]

How's vesti burst gen btw?

[twilit bay]

Wait, I can't test yet. Rookie just reset and the guy hasn't logged on yet 😔
Sorry

[lunar pawn]

allegedly better than clip sg but worse than clip rl

but she only shoots once in 2RL

[umbral belfry]

aw

[strange linden]

She's probably not a clip RL but it should still be decent right?

[leaden canyon]

ah

[umbral crown]

Blnc vesti noah biscuit scar trina or nero team

[umbral belfry]

oh right

[rich fiber]

Does she have charge speed breakpoints like Emilia?.

[umbral belfry]

2rl scar no jack
2rl vesti
nero stall

sounds strong

[lunar pawn]

scar trina without jackal gets siren stunned though

[vapid lake]

?

[umbral belfry]

not if you're low ammo scar

[vapid lake]

What scar?

[leaden canyon]

testing

[umbral belfry]

so siren will do nothing

[lunar pawn]

let's not enter the if territory now

[umbral crown]

Unless enemy siren survive counters

[spiral onyx]

Forgot to post earlier
https://youtu.be/fbuSOTboQfs?si=kZQKLrDDoep1RDva

[vapid lake]

Jackal p1 you don't want vesti to eat siren stun because emilia will burst instead

[umbral belfry]

p1 vesti with siren

intentional?

[leaden canyon]

I won but I forgot to take off quick battle for rookie lol

[umbral crown]

Repeat then

[vapid lake]

wait, you're 80 sync levels higher than him

Ofc u win

[north brook]

yeah uh that base stat means u kill with autos

[leaden canyon]

oh yeah I am, I didn't even notice that lol

bruh nobody in my rookie is near me wtf

[north brook]

ur whales not log on yet?

[umbral belfry]

rip testing

[lunar pawn]

rookie reset today so gotta wait

[leaden canyon]

ok here we go

[vapid lake]

He is the whale

[north brook]

580 is like f2p launch player now

[leaden canyon]

I started during chainsaw man

launch day is like 600 now I believe

[lunar pawn]

unlinked vesti taking full damage

[leaden canyon]

yeah going to move blanc p1

[lunar pawn]

why not jackal p1

[leaden canyon]

I always forget to do that ngl

[north brook]

rip days of jackal p5

[umbral belfry]

thanks siren

[lunar pawn]

my jackal has been p1 since siren

[umbral belfry]

exactly

[lunar pawn]

trina enough buff to make scarlet scary

[leaden canyon]

ok yeah rosanna still kills the team

[dim sapphire]

Mid vesti pack it up

[umbral belfry]

scar trina rosa stocks up

[placid bloom]

if your Scar strong enough she can even kill Blanc off counters

but only with double counter bug

[leaden canyon]

I think vesti just goes with like noah noise now

for defense

[lunar pawn]

haven't used blanc indom in my defense in ages

[strange linden]

how would you use scar without jackal?

[umbral belfry]

I'd rather indom and leave noise with cindy

[twilit bay]

very cool

[lunar pawn]

<@&946725432554836008>

[umbral crown]

<@&946725432554836008>

[umbral belfry]

scar trina rh centi rumani

[vapid lake]

i can get rich?!

[leaden canyon]

Cindy in SPA defense isn't that hard to counter though

[umbral belfry]

very common 2rl scar team without jack

[umbral belfry]

that's true

[lunar pawn]

mods get a shorter role name already, such a hassle typing down M-O-D-E-R-A-T-O-R

[umbral crown]

To C7 vesti

[vapid lake]

After 110 pulls to get only 1 copy of vesti i decided the game doesn't like me so im not going any farther

[strange linden]

Can she survive before getting rekt? I think mine would die during the activation of the burst

[dim sapphire]

Rosa sg comp can nuke blanc vesti i think

[placid bloom]

I didn't even get 1 copy in 110 pulls

[umbral belfry]

I'm prolly running 2rl scar, 2rl indom vesti, nero stall for sp def if I have a need to change it

[lunar pawn]

scar trina should lose vs rosanna

[umbral belfry]

you want tempering on scar to avoid it happening

[strange linden]

Bro I started earlier around helm banner and I'm only lvl576

I did pause for like 2 weeks but that's about it

[leaden canyon]

Lol

[vapid lake]

vesti should want tempering too we dont want to put bastion on her if she has bricked ammo

[leaden canyon]

I guess I pushed hard campaign too much

[placid bloom]

just don't brick your ammo

[leaden canyon]

I have been caught up on it since snake

[umbral belfry]

a few people did suggest bastion so idk. I don't think vesti needs tempering if she's gonna get indom anyway no?

[strange linden]

I did too for the 100 core dust lol
Tho I was lazy before that

[lunar pawn]

you cleared ziz already before 601?

[umbral belfry]

maybe if it's for noah vesti

[vapid lake]

We just saw a case where tempering would've saved her

vs rosanna

[umbral belfry]

good point

[leaden canyon]

Nah I'm stuck at that boss, I meant like for outpost levels

[twilit bay]

This would need low ammo scar, right?

because siren

[umbral belfry]

yes, or else you're gonna catch a nice and tasty siren stun and then you likely lose

[vapid lake]

? how low ammo scar helps against siren, explain

Me dumb

[twilit bay]

Me and my 62 ammo scarlet 😔

[umbral belfry]

scar goes in her reloading phase if she has low ammo. if so siren can't stun a reloading unit

[vapid lake]

Naruhodo

But that bricks her for pve

No ammo scar does no dmg

[placid bloom]

if you using her for PvE you already bricked

like me

[umbral belfry]

I had 42 ammo and I wanted less, so I rerolled ad now I have 20, which I didn't want. now I'm bricked for pve

[vapid lake]

She is legitimately good at pve she has a place

[umbral belfry]

I just wanted less than 32

[placid bloom]

I think she is just okay. There is worse than her but there is better than her

[north brook]

trina does give scar a ton of ammo and reload for free

so its actually not that bad specifically for use with trina

[umbral belfry]

[vapid lake]

i would do more testing if i actually had a scarlet to build

[lunar pawn]

she reloads/covers at the time siren stun would land

[north brook]

and tbh i only run scar in stages where an aoe burst at start is really needed, and its elec weak now

everywhere else shes glued to trina

[placid bloom]

her damage is okay, I use Cindy Rouge Scar Trina but I don't think it stands out that much more than other options

[leaden canyon]

Trying this for defense

[worthy sorrel]

i hope 12 ammo actually is enough whoever said that. she had a ton of ammo after my initial Ol's but i rolled some of it away to get a bit of atk/ele. she's sitting very firmly at 12ammo now

[lunar pawn]

triple siren bait

[leaden canyon]

My noah cant get siren stunned

I have the right cs

[lunar pawn]

noise is slower?

[leaden canyon]

yes

[lunar pawn]

then double siren bait

[umbral belfry]

[twilit bay]

T1 doesn't really need to burst immediately

[north brook]

scar has reload protection, nero doesnt care because u just need moran b1 up for dr

[umbral crown]

Siren stunning nero practically does nothing since it allows moran to burst

[leaden canyon]

mana there in case helm gets nuked

from like rosanna or scar

[lunar pawn]

I was gonna build nero next

was

[umbral crown]

And in CA you know scar trina siren does not stand a chance against nero team

[umbral crown]

I see man of culture

[lunar pawn]

Idc about CA though

[mystic rain]

is moran b1 enough to tank scarlet trina nuke?

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Do not you watch replays?

[umbral crown]

Si

[lunar pawn]

nope

why would I

[twilit bay]

[leaden canyon]

For me its taken scar blanc hood trina jackal to kill it

[umbral crown]

To learn more about different comps

[vapid lake]

He's in a bricked bracket, it wont help him

[mystic rain]

i mean i know abt blanc being counter to moran nero

[umbral crown]

Not just the standars you usually see here

[umbral crown]

Knowledge

[vapid lake]

Knowing more team comps won't save him from people 100 sync lvl higher than him

He can't even ca

[mystic rain]

tho one thing i havent tested is solo moran b1 tanking scar trina

[vapid lake]

Understandable

[umbral crown]

Like most of us see keripp replays and for that many people copied his teams

[lunar pawn]

like people said, I can't even join CA, so no point, most fights I can see are either cp gappers, or people running the exact same defense since 1995

[umbral crown]

Also how you think nero team became meta in CA, people fought/watched how it worked

[vapid lake]

I don't have a reason to care either because i won't put any more pvp investments until game gives me scarlet

vesti is an exception

[lunar pawn]

I only care about how I can improve my SPA teams, so that the gem spender takes a couple extra hundred gems to take his spot back everytime

[vapid lake]

I'm approaching or already past 6000 pulls, still no og scarlet

[vapid lake]

At least red hood came home around pull 4800-ish

Exactly 1 year after i started playing

[cursive storm]

Is this new vesti created for PvP?

[lunar pawn]

pve bad
pvp meta

[cursive storm]

Have you testing her on PvP? Good on wiping out enemies?

[vapid lake]

unintentionally, i have a feeling that they didn't playtest how broken her kit would be in pvp

[umbral crown]

She gonna carry Ely Towa with X maiden and rapipi also

[cursive storm]

Damn I need her for PvP then

[leaden canyon]

Rosanna did not nuke vesti with noah noise on the team, also I think this is a 2.5 team with her?

[unique wagon]

TVesti Noah counter is Emilia instant nuke

She cant time like Emilia does to Noah

Landing exactly as it disappears

Something like Noah X Emilia Biscu X can kill it.

[final wedge]

@coarse lake this guy also win against same team on the next round

same exact thing happened to mine

[umbral crown]

But the video

[unique wagon]

Oh ye Emilia has ele dmg toward TVesti
She doesnt even need... that many buff.

So its just rock paper scissor. Blanc TVesti Jack countered by Rosa; Noah Noise TVesti countered by Emi.

[leaden canyon]

Yeah the normal counter to noah teams is still always emilia

[leaden canyon]

I cant record videos to post onto discord because either the file is too big or if I change what its recording in it wont let me share the video and the fix is some microsoft thing that I dont want to do

[umbral crown]

Guess not havin nitro is a thing

[delicate matrix]

@keen vapor okay I did it are you proud of me..? 👉 👈

[unique wagon]

Sponsor Dair?

[lunar pawn]

windows 11?

[leaden canyon]

yes

[lunar pawn]

I record with obs and edit with capcut

[unique wagon]

Shutter Encoder

Best lightweight video editor app.

[leaden canyon]

I've only ever used obs

[twilit bay]

if on windows, shift+windows symbol+s

[lunar pawn]

windows recording is trash though

file size too large

[unique wagon]

That's not video editor.

That's video recorder

If you need to resize quickly, use Shutter Encoder. They removed Windows editor.

[lunar pawn]

"windows 10 is the last OS you'll ever need"
....
"however"

[unique wagon]

Windows 10 is indeed the last OS one will ever need. W11 is trash.

I will downgrade probably soon. After I finish my tasks.

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

[hazy shore]

noob question but do I go all in for vesti or anis?

[ivory violet]

give it a few days until we get an idea of how good vesti is

[unique wagon]

Good question

It is a very good question indeed

It's honestly very good, the question

[hazy shore]

I can mileage both is lb0 enough investment?

[leaden canyon]

S.anis is limited and is really nice to have in like 3 or 4 boss fights in campaign

For pure pvp probably vesti

[gritty ridge]

Wym rates are higher

[unique wagon]

The rate is the same

[leaden canyon]

rates are the same

[gritty ridge]

Both are 2%

[hazy shore]

i thought elysion upgrade is pilgrim rate mb

[shut cove]

I wouldn't recommend wasting golden mileage on Vesti

[leaden canyon]

no shes just an alt like maidpriv

[lunar pawn]

get 1 copy of sanis, she's limited

[hazy shore]

I got confused with rapipi upgrade

[lunar pawn]

o solo raid is up

[unique wagon]

Banners to watch out for:

• TVesti (Great in PvP; Maybe Good for Mobbing; Niche for Bossing) - Wishlistable
• SAnis (Good in PvP; Kinda Bad for Mobbing; Electric Support, hence raises Cindy's, XMaiden's, and Ein's damage; Critical Unit on some bosses) - Limited seasonal
• New Bunnies in September - Wishlistable
• Collabs in October - Limited, may never return.
• Anniversary in November (use Mileage) - Low rate outside banner.
• December: Winter Nikkes - Limited seasonal
• January: Pilgrim + Step Up (SSR Selector) - Low rate outside banner

[keen vapor]

good job keep it up

[upper grove]

can someone link any posts with pvp vesti performance?

[vapid lake]

SSS tier just pull dont ask why

[keen vapor]

[raven plover]

https://streamable.com/wzdv0t

[upper grove]

thanks

[raven plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351035956559483003/1407921499829964810/IMG-20250821-WA0004.jpg?ex=68a7dc93&is=68a68b13&hm=d4959f6b8c2ea452593ddf27f81aa0971ddfe7e83b15f2fe834c1de46590e50d&

30 level gap tho
besti 22% atk emi 47% atk

[vapid lake]

What? U doubt god emperor vesti?

[upper grove]

2 vesti copies in 30

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-18069003738146878767

[vapid lake]

Very good, happy for u, i got 1 vesti in 110

[glad glade]

Brutal. They’re really trying to drain us dry. 💀

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1269249010992943188/Zwei.Face.Smile.smug.gif

[upper grove]

have you done fire OC with her yet? I don't want to run another one to test

[keen vapor]

[vapid lake]

No im lazy

[vapid lake]

no trust?

[quartz rover]

I don't even need to do anything to stay c3 in my spa

I'm going to poop myself when this flem guy asks for help in here vs my team

[lunar pawn]

I'll introduce him to vesti

[quartz rover]

please do

they'll fix double proc and he'll have wasted all those gems

btw how is she fareing anyway

I saw someone say "how do you defend vs indom vesti" but I thought that was a joke

[gritty ridge]

Is this 1rl

[lunar pawn]

rosanna counters vesti

[umbral belfry]

jack vesti blanc centi xmaid

to try to save yourself if vesti get rosa sniped

least you have a backup strong b3

[mystic rain]

what r good rosanna defense teams for sp

[lunar pawn]

rosanna is better for attack than defense

[visual willow]

what team beats this def? I see it a lot

[upper grove]

vesti their asses

[quartz canopy]

you guys think this is possible

[visual willow]

maybe i pull vesti for pvp lol

[vapid lake]

No

80 level deficit

[lunar pawn]

1 damage meta

[quartz canopy]

rip

do we have the graph to show the cp deficit and the stat penalty?

[visual willow]

what's a typical team without vesti? crown, noah, biscuit, cindy, rumani?

[gritty ridge]

Vesti them

Biscuit lock p1 and use vesti

[upper grove]

why crown in arena