pvp-arena

[long chasm]

Gg

[tropic summit]

it worked? good job

[fathom rock]

Viper only target skips in fb ye

[long chasm]

Moran survive last

[shell hazel]

I was curious who would get target if all 5 units had target skip 😄

[long chasm]

Even she kill scarlet

[tropic summit]

hmm switch over siren with RH then, the idea was to prevent her bursting but i don't know their CS%

[fathom rock]

TEunhwa testing

[long chasm]

Still win because laplace ulti

[tropic summit]

ah so your scarlet got actually killed

gotcha

[quartz rover]

They swapped teams after I beat them

[tropic summit]

oh i see, scarlet is unlinked

you need to give her atk% OL

[shell hazel]

yeah problem with jackal

[umbral belfry]

trina linked but not scar

[tropic summit]

it's amazing in a sense

[shell hazel]

atk trina

[umbral belfry]

[fathom rock]

Is scar not link

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

they made it weaker

[fathom rock]

My wifi slow yall already mention it lmao

[tropic summit]

now scar is even slower

[quartz rover]

now I just do t2 and t3 right

also since scarlet is 20 ammo, she dodges siren right

[long chasm]

Bug?

[fathom rock]

Your scar have less attack than trina

[tropic summit]

tbh both T1 and T2 are easy targets, you don't have the tools for T3

[shell hazel]

it's after OL

[quartz rover]

their t1 is substantially higher power than the other one without helm

[fathom rock]

Overloads

[long chasm]

How😂

[fathom rock]

286 vs 210 base
4 atk trina 0 atk scar?

[fathom rock]

Overload lines count lmao

[tropic summit]

it suffers from the same thing as before, noah p1 is gonna get stunned

[shell hazel]

yeah you cp gapped there

but he's cp deficit

might lose to auto

[cedar orbit]

anyone knows how much ammo does Scarlet need to dodge Little Mermaid stun?

[tropic summit]

he can pad it out, that's not the only team that works against that

[shell hazel]

32 or less

and no siren/bastion to bump it up if you run that high

[tropic summit]

either way only needs 172k

that team had 3 utilities in it

[shell hazel]

need to be this tall to ride @quartz rover

[quartz rover]

what should I try to do here? I dont really know noah interactions

I just know they're a pain

[shell hazel]

cp pad out for trina or centi I guess?

[tropic summit]

try thinking about it on your own first, else you'll never learn

use the burst gen tool first and determine speed, then make a plan with CP and meta in mind

[quartz rover]

what do you generally do vs a noah team though

[gritty ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-scarlet-black-shadow-nikke-goddess-squad-goddess-squad-nikke-gif-2446659483350462690

[gritty ridge]

Siren

Or soda

If they have no biscuit you can blanc

[shell hazel]

soda kind of rng, can work but doubt she's built

[quartz rover]

nah my soda in the gutters

[worthy knoll]

Place Nero and get some popcorn

[quartz rover]

I removed nero from sync

she needs investment and im poor

[shell hazel]

nero is very high invest yups

[gritty ridge]

Should I sr15 nero

[long chasm]

So reset triana OL?

[shell hazel]

it's an end goal I think

I'd more focus on the pve/campaign side or core spa batteries

[fathom rock]

Show overloads

[long chasm]

Erase attack stat

[gritty ridge]

Im doing tempering atm

[shell hazel]

it's probably easier to just add atk to scar no?

[gritty ridge]

Once I get temp to 7 ill work on quantum

[long chasm]

3 triana over load have 2 max attack stat

[shell hazel]

I'd focus on adding atk to scar

[long chasm]

1 12

[shell hazel]

why ruin trina OL?

show the current OL on both

[long chasm]

Scar have no attack stat

[gritty ridge]

Actually hippo, shpuld i do quantum or vigor next

[long chasm]

Because all pl have elemental and ammo on all gear

[gritty ridge]

If I do vigor I can manipulate indom more

[long chasm]

Pay 3 crystal evry reset since lock

[gritty ridge]

Quantum is like 8% more rl it i put all 4 on 1 team

[long chasm]

Cheaper and triana doesnt need to much attack right?

[tropic summit]

one day nikke is gonna introduce manual jackal linking where you can just set it as needed and we'll be thinking of these times:

"can you believe it you needed to have specific OL stats to get linked units? crazy times"

[woven moat]

Myky vs Cookie who wins hopefully it doesnt look to bad x.x
sorry for garbage quality it does look bad

[quartz rover]

what if I cindy trina sbs biscuit siren vs t1

[fathom rock]

Is left in the image also left ingame

[long chasm]

🤣

[quartz rover]

3rl vs 3.5 but biscuit bursts instead of noah, right

[woven moat]

but i kind of put it in backwards here so myky on left while cookie on right

[long chasm]

It like never maybe

[fathom rock]

So image the opposite of this?

[shell hazel]

were we right with the one yesterday?

[quartz rover]

Oops forgot to reorganize

[woven moat]

yes cookie won

[shell hazel]

eh she kind of wants/ needs atk lol, you should show the current OL on both trina and scar

[shell hazel]

in general? I don't focus on vigor tbh

[tropic summit]

needs a defender, trina isn't a defender, won't procc biscuit

[quartz rover]

Oh shit

[shell hazel]

I have vigor level 5 it's enough

[quartz rover]

I thought she was for some reason

[shell hazel]

quantum to 7 is a goal

[spiral onyx]

I forgot to record yesterday so no replays for yesterday's match, oops.
https://youtu.be/b39lYjvBs3Y?si=HTB62iD-NkuEjr3O

[shell hazel]

after that for pvp tempura all the way for me atm

[quartz rover]

I swapped trina for centi

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/my-disappointment-is-immeasurable-and-gif-20080022

[quartz rover]

181638 power

[spiral onyx]

This was me yesterday
https://tenor.com/view/hew-moran-hew-moran-touch-grass-touch-grass-touching-grass-hew-moran-grass-gif-25539499

[shell hazel]

in range

[long chasm]

Scarlet

[shell hazel]

oh dear there is so much ammo 😄

[cedar orbit]

elemental dmg lord

[long chasm]

Triana

[shell hazel]

man she really is atk trina

[long chasm]

Believe me it just cost 1 crystal each

[shell hazel]

36.15% atk

[tropic summit]

trina built like it's a RH

[long chasm]

I never change triana ol since i OL gear first time

[shell hazel]

trina atk

you only need one atk roll on scar

unlock ammo roll this for atk maybe?

def is meh and you have so much damn ammo already

[long chasm]

Oh

[quartz rover]

[long chasm]

I though scarlet more ammo more crazy ahhha

[shell hazel]

you actually want like no ammo for pvp

[swift mango]

@tropic summit

My Scarlet has 32 ammo now. Need to roll 2 charge dmg line to something decent though.

[shell hazel]

with siren stun now

[tropic summit]

you didn't check burst gen

using SBS puts you at 4RL, you were 3RL earlier

[quartz rover]

Its 3 vs 3.5

Well, faster than 3 bc Cindy p1

[tropic summit]

your speed

enemy speed is unchanged, timing on stun was ok

the speed issue is on your team

[shell hazel]

think some people gonna see how wrong they are just to back the higher commander level 😄

[fathom rock]

Well since right column is attacking
T1 : lmao emi is fed to 2rl, nuke blocked by noah, myky win
T2 : nty
T3 : if scar ammo on cookie team 32 or less they more likely to win otherwise its looking myky, there is solid chance soda die from counter tho
T4 : I'm leaning cookie in the scenario tbh that rhb1 is dysfunctional
T5 : invest wars
Basically I have no clue who wins

[tropic summit]

you can only learn by making these mistakes so don't worry @quartz rover , try again with this info in mind

[swift mango]

You wants 50-60% ammo. @keen vapor scarlet is still bricked.

[tropic summit]

and then you win anyway

[wise horizon]

T1 is really a challenge to beat.....

[long chasm]

Why people use biscuit and triana same team?

[quartz rover]

how am I supposed to do 3rl with a biscuit

[shell hazel]

ah thought was OK with none? can add some with bastion or other things anyway

my scarlet potentially needs a lot of rolls still

[hollow lagoon]

got 13%charge speed on muh noah

[fathom rock]

Bastion scarlet is DIABOLICAL

[swift mango]

That's 23% attack you are.losimg there but suit yourself I guess.

[rose oracle]

who will win?

[tropic summit]

they beat you this time because of CS%

[fathom rock]

Mine only have 48.39%

[tropic summit]

xmaiden is on B3 while you're on B2

[shell hazel]

nah I'll see what I can solve but my scarlet has kind of bricked rolls

she will be a rock canyon

[tropic summit]

can nullify it by running noah i guess

at least we know you can get rid of SBS

[swift mango]

Check in mock or rookie, 30-32 ammo and you good.

[quartz rover]

do I need biscuit vs a noah?

[shell hazel]

I'm going to see how tvesti is and if I need any rocks for her first

[cedar orbit]

are you guys still coping about 2% charge speed in pvp? Scarlet and Rosanna clearly gigafed the enemy Jackal

[rose oracle]

Retro , help

[fathom rock]

Can you please specify which team list is who

[swift mango]

What are you talking about .

[rose oracle]

the first pic in of the guy who has the bay pfp

[quartz rover]

so basically I lost because my burst wasnt fast enough?

[fathom rock]

Moran bay vs moran nero

[quartz rover]

how am I supposed to increase my burst speed while having a siren and biscuit and cindy but also pad

[swift mango]

My scarlet used 30 rock 2 days ago and 20 today. Still bad. But at least I saw the light at the end of the tunnel.

[tropic summit]

run this, should be fine this time

good invest on opponent side if anything, their CS% is on point

[shell hazel]

I don't at all (my overloads below)

[swift mango]

so what is this you are talking about?

[wise horizon]

whats the minimum CS% on their side?

[tropic summit]

it's likely emi on above 18%, noise noah and rumani are around 11%

jackal also seems to have some CS%

with these teams you should be fine although

T3 is looking at an anti nuke + counter wipe
T1 is looking at stalling + sustain, with rosanna breaking jackal link

[swift mango]

This is Scarlet? I thought it's your Trina.

[shell hazel]

yes she's bricked lol

I want to fix just gathering some rocks, I may try some rolls at like 50

[quartz rover]

Would this work? Ein is indom

Shit, they have siren

[tropic summit]

yep you answered yourself well

[quartz rover]

What if I jackal p1

[swift mango]

Equip Vigor on Ein so RH Indom instead.

[tropic summit]

you're no longer lethal

[quartz rover]

My rh has the most hp

[shell hazel]

if you jackal p1 then rh no b1

[quartz rover]

So if siren wasnt here, I built a solid team

[swift mango]

Neither works though, since they have Noah.

[quartz rover]

Oh

[shell hazel]

could rh p1 tech 😄

[fathom rock]

R/R/L'/R*/R
I think right wins

't3 sbs team might burst in time and have blanc survive to win
*t4 siren might stun noah giving sbs some room to fight back

[swift mango]

Then no Blanc burst

[quartz rover]

Can I like, taunt them and win or something

[shell hazel]

depends when stun comes in

I think she'd get stunned before b2 but would need to check

[quartz rover]

What if I centi p1

[shell hazel]

you'd have to see the burst speed

[quartz rover]

Do you still get feed if not linked

[shell hazel]

other issue is you indom centi by mistake 😄

[rose oracle]

so the guy on the right wins?

[cedar orbit]

to be fair, if the enemy shoots into your Jackal link, they will generate 25 energy for you in 2 RL, so you should be able to make a 2RL Cindy team that 1-shots them

[fathom rock]

That's how I see it better get more sources

I am mid at pvp

[quartz rover]

I have no rumani for 2rl cindy

[swift mango]

2rl Cindy can be blocked by 2.5rl Noah easily.

[cedar orbit]

do you have a clip shotgun?

[quartz rover]

Is there a way to burst super slowly then just nuke them

[cedar orbit]

it's a 3RL team

[fathom rock]

I do think that rossana can't fill bar fast enough on T5 to deal with scar even if mihara ded which is funny

[swift mango]

Still block half.

[quartz rover]

What if I just build Nero moran

[tropic summit]

now that's extreme

[quartz rover]

[tropic summit]

you just need to think

you need 3RL or 3.5RL, cindy in p1, defender in p2, biscuit, flex, siren

[quartz rover]

My brain is too smooth

[fathom rock]

You can't even fully build your pve teams how will you do that

[swift mango]

Do you have Rapu?

[quartz rover]

My sbs 1shots kraken when I sleep at night

[worthy knoll]

I'm curious if you can snipe Siren with this

[quartz rover]

Don't rub it in that I have no thelm

[lone sequoia]

the minimum is SR15 nero+S1 lv10+tempering+7 and moran burst lv10....helm/rapu+15%cs to reach 2.5 RL.... both units gear lv5 ... DEF OL+crit rate few atk lines (nero more than moran) after that is ammo count

[quartz rover]

Rapunzel? No but she's on the wishlist

[cedar orbit]

3RL Noah doesn't block my Cindy, that's just skill issue

[worthy knoll]

Oh wait Alice must not be P2, mmh yeah maybe Noir better at P2

[swift mango]

Well, you can one shot them with just half.

[worthy knoll]

Hmm just use Biscuit then

Crown Biscuit Alice Noir RH

[tropic summit]

he's supposed to learn...

[worthy knoll]

Nah its similar to Bloods idea before

To snipe the P5 with SRs

Not sure if its enough though

Just curious

[cedar orbit]

if bro snipes LM, RRH just becomes B1 and he gets sustained by Helm

[worthy knoll]

She wont

[fathom rock]

No...

[shell hazel]

rrh only b1's after full burst ends

if siren is dead before burst then gg no b1

[cedar orbit]

is that a pvp only thing?

[shell hazel]

n

[fathom rock]

No

[shell hazel]

have a read of her skill

[swift mango]

Hey this could work.

[shell hazel]

she'll b1 from the start if no other b1 in the team

she will only convert in certain conditions

[shell hazel]

we call it the reverse execution squad

[quartz rover]

I need 174k

[cedar orbit]

I literally can't read the skill description, since they put 2 dots at the end of the sentence, literally unreadable

[worthy knoll]

I wanted HelmT though, to be 3 snipers

[cedar orbit]

🐖

[quartz rover]

Why do I keep getting helmT gapped

Guess I'll just beat c1 and stay c1 for a few hours

[fathom rock]

Cuz she meta

[shell hazel]

so the affects self if no b1 allies is what makes her b1 if you don't run anything

the other one is only at the end of full burst if your main b1 dies

[swift mango]

Forget PvE, be a @umbral crown and max your Nero+Moran+HelmT first.

[worthy knoll]

It seems he still lack one Helm dupe still

[cedar orbit]

before you build a PVP Helm, you have to raise a PVE Helm for the Black Snake boss

[lone sequoia]

just pvx, 4 atk/ele/cs

[swift mango]

My helm has 80% Ele, no ATL though.

[quartz rover]

Wow, treasured nikke really do just give so much free power

Especially early on

Does leveling treasured items even raise power

[shell hazel]

my helm is rolled a bit better at least

[swift mango]

Treasure doesn't give any more CP beyond sr15.

[cedar orbit]

look at this tryhard, maxing his Helm

[quartz rover]

That 30 bond really helps frfr

[lone sequoia]

no, only SR1 to 15

[shell hazel]

she deserves it

https://tenor.com/view/loreal-because-your-worth-it-because-im-worth-it-hair-hair-flip-gif-20678877

[swift mango]

My helmT has 80% Ele 18% cs, probably still deal more dmg on Water weak boss even without ATK line.

[shell hazel]

yeah I'm going to gun for the last CS line at some point

[lone sequoia]

how many rocks? that looks better than mine and she is +100

[shell hazel]

a lot of rocks

[cedar orbit]

all of them

[shell hazel]

I lost count, I don't think it was 100 but it's more than 50

somewhere in there

[lone sequoia]

my helm should be near 150, but have 4 atk/ele, need cs for first lines

[shell hazel]

I will lock the 3rd line atk on the helm at some point and go for last CS roll

[lone sequoia]

the 3 rock reroll is expensive

[shell hazel]

yeah it really is, and you can do it 10 times for 30 rocks and not even see the thing you want 😄

[swift mango]

That's like infinity better than hippo

[shell hazel]

[lone sequoia]

i need the cs and a helm with good atk/ele/cs is better than 0cs

[shell hazel]

blood is being mean

[swift mango]

stop flexing when your Helm is near completion. With just 150 rock.

[lone sequoia]

imagine, my rh has been 12/12 and only need 1 cs first line for like 1+ years

all the lines are low tier

[tropic summit]

he's always mean

[lone sequoia]

my only flex is my scarlet and her OL is not optimal for normal teams, she use DEF

[tropic summit]

and it's a good thing

[shell hazel]

you're meant to be the responsible one among us

instead you're causing chaos and pvp 😄

[tropic summit]

no, this is pvp channel, real time pvp simulation is all part of the training arc

[shell hazel]

are you perhaps the real railtracer?

[swift mango]

My Scarlet is near completion after like 500 rock only.

[brazen geyser]

What is the condition for Siren to stun x nikke?

[lone sequoia]

crit rate?

[shell hazel]

she shoot, she stun

[keen vapor]

Yes, I found out today whiff technique didn't work

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/bebop-server-quintuplets-anime-thanks-gif-22314666

500 rocks sent to the isekai

how many days of farming is that

[brazen geyser]

Yes, but for example, why did it stun Noah specifically?

[shell hazel]

noah can taunt her

or noah is at p1 and is the target anyway

[lone sequoia]

4~6months

[swift mango]

4 Crit rate, 60% ammo and a mix of ATK, Ele, Crit dmg.

[brazen geyser]

Oh, so it stuns the p1 if it is not taunted?

[fathom rock]

Guys how's my helm
I think i need a tad more cs

[lone sequoia]

really good

[shell hazel]

right

[tropic summit]

you've got a few ways to prevent that:

1. run noah with noise, noise taunt priority (noise needs to have 4%ish less %CS than noah)
2. run team with 11%CS, it will allow you to burst B2 before enemy has hit stun, as siren is hardcoded to stun at a specific timeframe, regardless of OL
3. run noah away from p1 if siren isn't in p1 or p2

[swift mango]

Still need to fix 2 charge dmg line 1. And that's after I ignore getting 4th ATK line on her but Cdmg would also be fine.

[lone sequoia]

i will have to reroll my emi for 4cs/3atk/ele and 2 ammo

[tropic summit]

to find out if your CS% is enough to be 2RL before siren stun, you can use:

https://nikke.work/

Example:

[lone sequoia]

just to pair her with vesti

[fathom rock]

14.46% cs

[keen vapor]

4 less

[cedar orbit]

when are we getting the dual wielding clip RL unit?

[quartz rover]

what if I just build poli

[shell hazel]

no

[quartz rover]

can I destroy noah

[fathom rock]

I need 14.51 cs for 15cs don't I

[shell hazel]

nope lol

[quartz rover]

[lone sequoia]

nop

[tropic summit]

dunno what mushrooms you took, but those are strong

[placid bloom]

Poli beats Noah

[quartz rover]

so you're saying she won't out tank

[placid bloom]

if you are 1 million CP higher

[swift mango]

Vesti Emi secret tech.

[lone sequoia]

and a little of rh

[quartz rover]

why do you guys use poli in ca

[lone sequoia]

i can't play CA

[fathom rock]

I'm backreading chat logs for my answer ig

[worthy knoll]

@quartz rover how much CP is this team on top?

[swift mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1403589199722184795/IMG_20250809_110148.jpg?ex=68a4a00e&is=68a34e8e&hm=a6d2e0eed6cfaf077c1036256388e25629dc03dfe6c4d541f4f914bef7c9a062&

[worthy knoll]

Follow the order, and its against the Scarlet team it seems there is leeway to replace RH 🤔

[quartz rover]

Why does rh have vigor

My rh has the most hp of all my nikke I think

[worthy knoll]

But nothing seems better than RH on the quick side of gen

[worthy knoll]

Well you can put quantum I guess, just placed it there to ensure RH does not get indom

[quartz rover]

Wait somehow my tove has more hp than rh

[worthy knoll]

I think that team can work, if your Jackal also has Quantum

[quartz rover]

Indom goes on jackal if I remove her vigor

[worthy knoll]

Against the Scarlet team, it will normally not work but because of Jackal bug atm, it will work for now

[worthy knoll]

Oh your Jackal lower hp than SBS?

[quartz rover]

Yeah she has no doll

[worthy knoll]

How low?

[thin perch]

How good is vesti looking for PvP?

[worthy knoll]

It can't be fixed by removing SBS cube?

Or upping her (jackal) hp gears a bit?

[quartz rover]

Sbs is 1.31m jackal is 977k

[worthy knoll]

That is really low, not sure even Vigor can help

But its fine

Biscuit should heal her a bit

[thin perch]

Says she does true damage for her burst and the explosion radius is increased 100%

[worthy knoll]

How much level is your Biscuit S2 and Biscuit max hp, prolly give Biscuit Vigor

Just to make sure she heals jackal more

[quartz rover]

4/4/4 and 800k

[swift mango]

Biscuit with vigor them

[thin perch]

@spiral onyx have you seen the skills for Vesti TU?

[worthy knoll]

I already said it above

[worthy knoll]

But yeah it seems kinda low 🤔

[swift mango]

Datamine said her hit is just like Emi. Although her burst gen is smol thanks to 2s charge time.

[worthy knoll]

About 500kish hp after Biscu heal 🤔

[tropic summit]

the things they're making merry do

[quartz rover]

Sorry merry, I don't think its salvageable rn

[worthy knoll]

Yeah try first with Jackal on Vigor first

[tropic summit]

tbh T1 and T2 were already solved

[quartz rover]

I can beat c1 but they whale and will probably token back

[tropic summit]

but Trash needs to use his brain or he'll never learn

[worthy knoll]

Not much choice, remove SBS cube

To just ensure she have much lower hp than usual

[fathom rock]

16cs with adjutant 14cs without

[tropic summit]

that your noise/noah?

[fathom rock]

Helm

[worthy knoll]

Jackal on Vigor instead of quantum.. ugh my heart

[fathom rock]

14.46% base

[tropic summit]

oof, long way away from 21%CS

[swift mango]

Up her biscuit skill 2. OL jackal body. Add sr0 doll to her. He did none of that.

[thin perch]

Does true damage bypass defense and or invincibility?

[fathom rock]

I'm supposed to get 21 cs?

[tropic summit]

you should, but you also could not

my helmt has like 8%

[worthy knoll]

Don't tell that to me, I'm just going with what base he has

[tropic summit]

on the other hand most of my other utilities have above 11%, with rumani on 20%

[swift mango]

Only DEF stat.

[thin perch]

Ah

[fathom rock]

Well me helm is basically 12%

[tropic summit]

this game should probably rename true damage to bonus damage, true damage is so misleading as a term

because it isn't true dmg at all

[thin perch]

So is Vesti basically just another nuke character

[quartz rover]

I can't ol, have no rl dolls, but I can definitely level the skill

[fathom rock]

Could be a battery just wait

[swift mango]

My Anchor isn't 11%, and I'm not reroll her.

[fathom rock]

Your helm prolly 25

[tropic summit]

it's ok you've emilia on 38%CS

[swift mango]

Only 18, useless 18%.

[drowsy bridge]

Can I get some advise on who would win for the lineup, I’m really torn because back door has great tanking abilities

[swift mango]

You mean 10.

[fathom rock]

Sadly, that emilia probably won't go through

[quartz rover]

Oh god, removing the cube didn't do much

[drowsy bridge]

That’s what I was thinking, especially with all that Thelm healing

[worthy knoll]

You can try that team for now against the Scar team while doing what I said above, and pray it has enough bugged feed gen without quantum and indom goes to SBS. Then your other team on that 130ksish CP team, you can handle that right? If it doesn't work, nothing can work atm as you are Noahless, Scarless, HelmTless and on CP deficit with slow units as your highest cp units

[fathom rock]

Too much dmg reduction for poor emi

[swift mango]

@wicked horizon he is you.

[fathom rock]

But that assumes they invested

[dim escarp]

I did it with the 500+ account

[quartz rover]

Just say the pvp life aint for me

[drowsy bridge]

Trying to get better at it!

[fathom rock]

So here is the question do I try to increase helm above 14.46% or not

[tropic summit]

i don't think someone who's able to hit ch1 should be saying that

[swift mango]

@umbral crown for a private secluded cultivation session. And come out as true pvper.

[tropic summit]

what kind of session is that

[quartz rover]

I only have two vigor cubes, do I use it on biscuit and jackal?

[dim escarp]

[worthy knoll]

Yeah not much choice atm, just use it on both of them for that team and no one else

[quartz rover]

what would be a good level for s2 biscuit

[fathom rock]

At your level, 3

[swift mango]

First Chant, "invest in max out Moran and use her as my main burst 1"

[worthy knoll]

Just stop at 7 if you can, those yellow books are inportant

[quartz rover]

Cause I've got lots of boxes

She's at s2 7

[swift mango]

Stop at 5 is enough

[quartz rover]

Its too late, the deed as been done blood

I need to do today's sim

[fathom rock]

He could've kept it at 4 guys

[tulip willow]

Can anyone recommend me some teams for SP Arena? I have pretty much every unit except for collab units. These are my current teams, but I don't really know if they're good enough

[swift mango]

If you haven't OL jackal, replace some piece of equipment with better level and effect.

[quartz rover]

Would have had to level her skill later anyway, right

[worthy knoll]

It was already at 4 which was still not enough in his case Jackal at 900kish hp, and SBS at 1.17Mish, just trying to close the gap between their hp values as much as we can so that indom don't go to Jackal

[spiral onyx]

Yeah but we'll have to see how it actually works in game

Depending on how fast she shoots and what her burst gen is, she could be a flop or could be the next Emilia

[worthy knoll]

@quartz rover you can prolly swap SBS and Blanc here, its risky but it could be worth a try to ensure the indom

[quartz rover]

wrong indom target but this can be fixed in a couple days

[worthy knoll]

Holy macaroni

You got the indom right but the timing was

I guess you really need Quantum cube

[quartz rover]

Why did blanc survive that anywah

[worthy knoll]

Biscuit

[quartz rover]

Oh, still in biscuit timing

[worthy knoll]

Indom went to SBS but its the frame bug where it exactly applies the heal when she is about to die, you need to be quicker

Hmm we could.. change RH to a higher gen unit but I'm not sure who that doesn't affect your CP much and feed the enemy

[quartz rover]

Kinda sucks that mu c1 is in rookie arena, if I take c1 from him he just 5x attacks me in rookie

[worthy knoll]

Try that same team, but Quantum on Jackal, SBS on P2 Blanc P3

[quartz rover]

I don't have any more tries

I can token if you wanna experiment though

I have one to look at teams without tries

[worthy knoll]

Nah I leave it to you, there no problem trying it tomorrow

[worthy knoll]

I think its safe to retain same team but RH to Trina/Centi, prolly Trina better to ensure don't accidentally get Biscuit S2 if using Centi, as long you are not 20% deficit or above 🤔

[scarlet adder]

what is happening? i should burst ages before him but i still die (2nd fight)

ok i changed order and added rumani and won but really weird how much he run me over without deficit and without bursting

[gritty ridge]

Do you have any charge speed on your units?

[tulip willow]

on my RL units most only have 1 line

[coarse solstice]

Predictions?

[gritty ridge]

Try this if its not too low cp, stack quantum cubes on t1

[scarlet adder]

this one blanc will win i think

[tulip willow]

I'll try it out when I get the chance, thank you

[gritty ridge]

Top, bottom, top, bottom, bottom

[scarlet adder]

how last one bottom? blanc will win this

[gritty ridge]

Swap position of biscuit and sanis

[gritty ridge]

Sbs indom is gonna get stuck on t5 biscuit lock, then 3 sec of invul, then another bisc lock making her do no dmg

Its a bit iffy but thats how i think it'll play out

[scarlet adder]

yeah forgot about that taunt biscuit thingy

[coarse solstice]

That's how I was hoping it would go. 2B needs a championship.

[gritty ridge]

It was a lucky matchup for the 2b team

[coarse solstice]

She's been acting pretty much the same as Cindy. Her damage has been weird this time around. She'll burst and nuke the opponent but it won't show how much damage she does

Did pull this off which is kinda fun (I don't think Sei's SG team was fully invested)

[glad meteor]

Burst at the same ish time. His siren might have triggered burst gen. And his team is buffed

[glad meteor]

By not skipping the first fight. You give him more chance to trigger siren burst gen

The rosanna and scar are running up the hit count

[scarlet adder]

i think he didnt burst, no noah protection he just overpowers me that much

without deficit it is weird but maybe good ol rolls

[glad meteor]

He did. Siren> crown > rapi

Can see crown shield

[scarlet adder]

i dont understand what first fight has to second fight

[gritty ridge]

This is what im building towards for ca so far, idk what to do for t5 tho

[scarlet adder]

does siren count across all figths ? this is dumb 😄

[glad meteor]

Siren has a ability where after 400 ammo is used she triggers 37% burst gen. Previous rounds count towards this hit count.

Ros and scar run up the hit count in the previous round “possibly” making it easier to burst faster

[scarlet adder]

still weird that it counts like that

[glad meteor]

Yeah , i thought it bug but idk

I put my siren team in round 3 on defence

[gritty ridge]

So far I havent found anything that counters bready indom moreso than any other 2.5rl indom

Not counting emi

[glad meteor]

Emi doesn’t counter bready

Can she out damage moran bay

[umbral crown]

Hahaha investment issues

[glad meteor]

Should lose to moran biscuit, 2rl scar jack/low feed, noise noah,

[umbral crown]

Yeah, thats the way

[gritty ridge]

I mean not comparing it to emi indom, bad wording on my part

[glad meteor]

Ah

[gritty ridge]

Emi indom is an unfair comparison to most things

[scarlet adder]

[gritty ridge]

I dont actually know tbh, I cant test that in my bracket

[gritty ridge]

Im a pioneer

[umbral crown]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946719897390563328/1219659611259539546/dorofrolic.gif

I can confirm

[gritty ridge]

Id love if someone else could test against more invested teams but who else has invested bready

[umbral crown]

Pve bois

[gritty ridge]

Not even tbh, sbs can be used everywhere bready can

So alot dont build bready

[glad meteor]

She is used in water weak raid, black snake and the other boss

[gritty ridge]

I think its just black snake outside of raids, and even then most people just use sbs anyway

[glad meteor]

But people sbs alice maids team always does crazier damage than mine. People macro alice and all those dupes

[gritty ridge]

Only notable water weak bosses off the top of my head are harvester and black snake

[glad meteor]

Yeah. I must be going crazy

Thought there was a boss after black snake, it just electric bosses and ziz

[gritty ridge]

Glut

[glad meteor]

Oh

[gritty ridge]

But thats fire weak

[glad meteor]

Ye

[gritty ridge]

Mihara is eating good recently

She was released for glut, and ziz is great for her too

[glad meteor]

I got extra ele and atk on her last weak

[gritty ridge]

Thats good for upcoming raid

I think mihara needs attack lines more than anything iirc

[glad meteor]

I just choose elemental, since that’s where the game is headed for all raids. Neutral dps is oldge

[gritty ridge]

Well since she has no self steroid she really needs attack boost specifically

[coarse solstice]

Tbh I think 3rl Cindy is better than barely 2.5 RL. I'd make Moran helmt Rapu Bay xmaid/lapt

2RL Moran/Bay is pretty solid

[umbral crown]

The real pve bois, they ivested in her during her raid

[gritty ridge]

It is, very good against scar

Indom sbs and cindy teams both kinda bully tho

I am open to changes on any of the teams excluding removing bready indom

[coarse solstice]

Moran/bay makes your team 5 easy. Feels like wasting helm if you're not at a full 2.5/2rl

[gritty ridge]

2rl moran bay would definitely do better than 3.5rl bisc sanis

[gritty ridge]

Wait this isnt 2rl

[coarse solstice]

I mistyped

[gritty ridge]

Yeah rumani is what I ran my first ca, but then I lose alot of gen on indom

[urban mulch]

surely i can get first for once

[gritty ridge]

Maybe vesti will come and save the day

[coarse solstice]

@gritty ridge ? How about this

[gritty ridge]

Smh I cant believe you removed maiden

But yeah thats basically what I ended up working out myself

[coarse solstice]

Best maiden still there thick as ever

[gritty ridge]

Single buff scar is sad tho

[coarse solstice]

It's fine just 101010 her

[gritty ridge]

Shift up needs to release 10 more clip rl

[gritty ridge]

Im glad ive been stocking up on electric books

[coarse solstice]

Electric books go so quick

Finally got noise to 7710

[gritty ridge]

Between cindy, ein, noise, moran, and scar its ridiculous

I probably missed some

[coarse solstice]

Xmaiden and Rosa are 101010s as well. (Technically Rosa can be less)

[gritty ridge]

So many good electric units

I miss fire and iron

And especially water

Water has like 4 good units

[coarse solstice]

Water is catching up. Took so long though.

[valid inlet]

We were discussing about this in our union server, what do you think about PoliT at p3? I was thinking it is better than p5 because p5 risks giving defending SG and attacking HelmT extra burst gen, also make it burst slower when dealing the former. PoliT at p3 can also tank protect 2 units behind her in some cases

[gritty ridge]

S.doro, summer egg, emi, bready, maids, helm off the top of my head

Poli is kinda mid

[umbral belfry]

hi hi nana!

[umbral belfry]

i guess p3 poliT is fair enough? seems relatively safe and protects against the factors you pointed out

i don't think her shield gives other SGs more burst gen though. it's only for RLs no?

[valid inlet]

Really? That's interesting

[umbral belfry]

don't quote me on that though, i might be wrong. but if it's basically the same as p1 cindy, it would make sense for that

as i don't think SGs get more burst gen when they hit p1/p2 cindy's decoy

[gritty ridge]

Could her shield provide extra sniper gen? Even tho rh/alice gen is bad

[vocal arrow]

Can I have 3 teams for SpA, there're my nikkes

[umbral belfry]

SRs i'm not sure of

but it does play a huge factor for RLs

if there's a plus to p3 poliT though, I can see it being that her indom from her burst will almost always pop and isn't at a risk of failing at p5

[glad meteor]

Correct. Rls get extra gen because it counts as one more thing to hit

[valid inlet]

Got it, If that's the case I think it will be less critical whether to be p3 & p5

[umbral belfry]

K

[glad meteor]

Well. Pierce may get extra gen

[umbral belfry]

i'd be willing to try poliT p3 next time

[valid inlet]

It's my first time deploying her this season, I am putting her at p3, let's see how it goes

[umbral belfry]

gl gl

[valid inlet]

Good luck too

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

Why not p4/5

[umbral belfry]

she's at p5 currently for me

i guess p4 wouldn't hurt either

the reason i put her in p5 is to specifcally see how she does vs defending sgs

but i haven't had any sg mirrors this + last ca

[glad meteor]

Watch you get sg mirror and sg hit p1

[umbral belfry]

so admittedly i'm not sure what's the better placement for poliT

[glad meteor]

It depends on your rng placement

[umbral belfry]

p3-4 should make her shield/indom pop much safer vs p5

[glad meteor]

She’s like moran but shield

[umbral belfry]

bc no shield remaining = no indom

[glad meteor]

Only tank 1 side

[umbral belfry]

so i can see why p5 could be risky

[valid inlet]

PoliT @p5 could slow Rosanna b1 too I guess, so I am not sure which one would be better, sacrifice 1 and burst, or let PoliT tanking

[glad meteor]

Well, if no p5 poli you lose a nikke and ros hits 2 and you still prob lose right

[umbral belfry]

wish i could test in rookie or sp

possibly

i don't see poliT dying quick though

[umbral belfry]

rosa was gonna hit 2 regardless bc my attacking sgs would've killed whoever was in p1

[glad meteor]

Wut if they have polit p1

[umbral belfry]

the battle of the

i wish i could test that with @valid inlet but i'm trapped in the semi-baby bracket

[coarse solstice]

*toddler bracket

[umbral belfry]

we graduated

🐣 no longer

🐥 out of the egg

[coarse solstice]

Can anyone explain why this doesn't show all of 2Bs damage on the results page

[umbral belfry]

1.4m 2b dmg

[coarse solstice]

She nuked the team. I checked in slomo and minimum she did 10.5ish mil from burst

Sugar was dead going into her burst so this damage should have been higher and tracked. Scarlets damage shows when she nukes

Here is the frame right before they got nuked

[valid inlet]

Maybe oneday they will decide reset the CA bracket like they do in SP and rookie

[coarse solstice]

I think right now they have a hard time just filling them up.

New baby bracket only has like 10 real people

[glad meteor]

The last hit of the match doesn’t show up in stats page

Can see when scar one taps enemy too sometimes

[coarse solstice]

Frustrating

Makes my noise look like she is getting all the credit

[umbral belfry]

good

[coarse solstice]

She's goated with 2B and Cindy

Oh this just happened

She's a full superhero now

[umbral belfry]

[coarse solstice]

Now I that I have 5 core 7s i can cosplay a whale on my banner

[umbral crown]

[coarse solstice]

4 images at a time

[quartz canopy]

is it possible to beat this with sanis?

calculator says it's 3RL

something like this maybe?

[ruby forum]

Can I get some sp arena defense team suggestions.

[quartz rover]

my ladder is gonna feel my wrath

[severe nimbus]

any pvp experts know which side is going to win? it feels like such a toss up to me unless im missing something lol

[covert lintel]

R
L
L
L
L

Wait, T3 is uninvested rosanna so R might win

[quartz rover]

I can't fully treasure my helm, is she still great?

[severe nimbus]

cool, thanks! I just want this dang frame for cheering. I keep guessing correctly and then losing on one prediction each time lol

[covert lintel]

Try asking MA cause i might be wrong about it

[twilit bay]

Yes, phase 3 doesn't matter unless you're bursting with her

[quartz rover]

do I just max her skill 1?

obviously will do all

[twilit bay]

I maxed all her skills, but I think that 10/7/7 is okay for now

[quartz rover]

I can see why she's so good

[twilit bay]

Yeah, buffs allies and gives really good burst gen

[umbral belfry]

t5 should be right win no?

very rarely do i see cindy beat an invested stall

siren stunning nero doesn't do much

then again not sr15 nero or rapu

[lunar pawn]

is it time to raise the cat?

[severe nimbus]

so right side might actually win instead you think?

[clear folio]

@fathom rock ur down to 7

[umbral belfry]

in my opinion of your fight:

t1 right
t2 l
t3 likely right due to left's rosa not being invested
t4 50/50. will depend on if left scar has less than 32 ammo to avoid siren stun (assuming siren doesn't die before hand)
t5 tricky to say due to right side nero + rapu not being sr15 for more DR. because of that i can see it either way

@severe nimbus

had nero + rapu been sr15 i would've said r for t5

[severe nimbus]

wish this was more clear cut lol xD

[umbral belfry]

yeah it's a tricky fight unfort 😭

you can check if left's scar has less than 32 ammo though

if they don't, then the next question will be if right's siren can survive the counter dmg. bc she's not sr15 it's really up to counte rng at that point

[severe nimbus]

wait, how would I check?

[quartz rover]

what makes nero moran so strong

[umbral belfry]

but if left scar does have more than 32 ammo, scar is stunned. so then i would lean right assuming siren can live

[umbral belfry]

you have to manually check last match's replay

[umbral belfry]

100% DR from moran's max burst + nero with max doll + heals to make her dr stack. it's a very high invest team that's booboo kaka if you just put it out with low invest

they're essentially a wall team that only specific few teams can beat

okie bed time for me

[drowsy bridge]

Hard matchup for me for this one, any PvP experts have an opinion of this round? I’m assuming strife would win but blanc > SBS could win also

[spare nimbus]

will this win?

[tulip quest]

That's a rabbit hole if your gonna do it no turning back

[tulip quest]

1 W 2 Questionable depends if Either rossna Kills their scarlet or Soda stuns your trina or scarlet first Really cutting it close

[spare nimbus]

im assuming rosanna will kill both scarlet and emilia, not letting him reach full burst

this is his other team

[umbral crown]

do noy know what you waiting for

[spare nimbus]

or would this be better

[covert lintel]

What makes you think that?
If Nero gets stunned before she bursts, then that's the end for their team

[umbral crown]

nah

enemy team is likely 4 RL

well, 3 i checked but still

[umbral belfry]

all of the times I've fought a siren cindy, I've won

nero being stunned only stalls the win

what's important is moran bursting

but the reason why that fight might be different is neither nero or rapu are sr15

(and yes I'm responding bc I couldn't fall asleep )

[covert lintel]

I see
I hope he sends the video match for me to see

Every time he loses his def to me, he raises his cp
Thanks for supporting the game my whaler

[umbral belfry]

from league. I can't get the vid anymore but here. no one died on my side

okay now i sleep for realsies

[covert lintel]

But this b1 burst is not noise
It might be a bit diff if it was noise

[spare nimbus]

how much cs does noah need to avoid siren stun when she is the only taunter on the team?

[umbral crown]

goto sleep then

[glad meteor]

As long as moran bursts.

• The team will still have damage reduction from moran
• healers will have nero s1, and nero will have 100% or close to in dr.
• temper cube.

Nero will just burst later. .

[umbral crown]

What about

i just burst right before cindy with nero stunned

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-upset-old-man-gif-7407103167577610642

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[umbral crown]

still waiting for th shop to give me a noah copy

[rain meteor]

what would be a good team against this? dont know too much about pvp :DD

[swift mango]

You Noah already core+3 right? Could save 200 In case you need to buy a copy for treasure. Or use it anyway.

[pure moss]

@umbral belfry I lost 4-1

[umbral crown]

C4 i think

i need her C7

[umbral crown]

2 RL noah, could be Noah/X.Maiden/Emilia or HelmT/Biscuit/Rumani or Rapunzel so you can nuke the link

[rain meteor]

Oh heyyy that worked. cool! thanks

[umbral crown]

[fathom rock]

They fixed it

Def for someone 60 sync above rest of bracket?

Well above everyone but top 3

[swift mango]

auto x3

[fathom rock]

I wouldnt be here if that worked

[lavish shore]

thats a good trick

[swift mango]

Guess they didn't auto hard enough.

[tender rampart]

Could someone help me figure out what my lineups should be for PvP?

[upper grove]

at least SR5 all the SP arena units with the 60+ lvls acc

[swift mango]

could you ask them their OL units cut off? I see Biscuit and rapu no doll, do they have OL?

[upper grove]

centi no doll, blanc still R doll etc

[swift mango]

tell him if he wanted functional teams, at least OL Biscuit, Noah and Jackal. Maybe Rapu too.

Can't believe a whale would be so stinky with their investment that they couldn't even spare SR0 and OL for keys Pvp units.

[fathom rock]

Solo raid ranker

[swift mango]

SR0 doesn't need upgrade.

it's like a year since the system started every one has spare doll here and there. We have seen top 50 SR with full SR0 doll on their CA teams even.

how top is he?

OL is basically free because whale buy Credit.

[swift mango]

maybe tell him to just buy 20 more level.

[fathom rock]

Rouge, and swid got none

[swift mango]

Standard whale team with barely any investment.

[onyx scaffold]

4 rocks for scarlet and done

[swift mango]

At least you have the decency of spending 4 rocks for units like Scarlet and Noah.

[onyx scaffold]

They do stop this month tho

[worthy sorrel]

with a 60sl advantage do you even need to try on the 3rd team? i imagine a 2rl noah, 2rl scarjack then just the top 5 highest cp units in the box. don't even try to burst would be pretty difficult to overcome

[onyx scaffold]

I regret spending rocks on scarlet for a blue ammo line. Now I dont want to nerf her ammo cuz it also nerfs her cp

I remember changing atk to ammo 🧱

[swift mango]

I rolled off 3 blue ammo on Scarlet in the last 3 days.

[onyx scaffold]

I was like "meh atk is redundant on scarlet. Ammo better"

Now she is a brick

Just like I spent 30 rocks on tove for 2 ammo lines. Now she doesn't need any ammo line

[onyx scaffold]

No Noah. Cannot copy

[worthy sorrel]

ammo on tove after treasure? 👀
mine is still not ol'd and she keeps up her stacks np after her treasure. why do you want ammo now?

[swift mango]

They don't have enough units invested for that.

Unless you wanted 2RL scarjack with only 2 units invested the rest naked.

[onyx scaffold]

Read dude. Read

"Now she doesn't need any ammo line"

[worthy sorrel]

lol. saw the first sentence there and definitely trailed off. mb

yes rip

[onyx scaffold]

What is good b2 for Cinderella in spa if no noah?

[swift mango]

Also, 60 level difference is probably a lie. Maybe to c10. But to c2 it's probably 41 ish at best.

[onyx scaffold]

Noise Siren B2 Cinderella Jackal

[swift mango]

I could hit my whale at 60 level difference and he has his Arena units invested.

Now imagine a 60 level difference with only 2 units per team having OL on.

[worthy sorrel]

i mean, if whale. they should probably build the units needed to field at least a fully built 2rl noah for rookie and sp defense. base ol is pretty cheap if they've been wiping out 🤷‍♂️

shouldn't affect their solo raid push much

[swift mango]

But they didn't.

[worthy sorrel]

something something best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago but the second best time is today

[swift mango]

Could go with this too since they somehow had Scarlet invested.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[hollow lagoon]

The dance of death

[shell hazel]

he won after his 5th try for the day lmao

401 soon might just overpower again

[shell hazel]

I think if you successfully defend you should get 100 gems 😄

whale funding your account then

that is not a free attempt

[drowsy bridge]

Can somebody help me out with input as to this matchup please! I think strife will win but unsure if blanc > SBS will be enough to win it

[fathom rock]

This can literally be charge speed and scar ammo difference
I am leaning strife too but if scar relaod at end that would be brutal, there is also possibility that blanc dies from just scar counters before b2 time

Double proc bug at its finest

[shell hazel]

slower indom usually wins if they both fire

without misindom

because the indom runs out later and everyone else winds up being dead usually

[fathom rock]

Scar is bit slower here, but 1 reload is all it takes
Both 3rl range

[crystal flicker]

Why he waited 9 hours before retrying

[fathom rock]

You never know his conditions

[crystal flicker]

He might asking somewhere to beat the defense

[shell hazel]

noise may die though I did tempura her, then ros fires and might murder helm

[crystal flicker]

What's your ScarBS and Centi CP

[shell hazel]

any potential alt options to consider running to improve reliability?

i'll check, not amazing

[crystal flicker]

I just need comparison coz mine way underthat

[shell hazel]

centi 114k

sbs 120k

with lvl 7 cubes

[crystal flicker]

Your Centi is stacked

[shell hazel]

yeah I built her strong 🙂

@tropic summit what do you make of my 401 options? I'd like to keep beating this guy as long as I can to just mess with em#pvp-arena message

[fathom rock]

Can I have 1 win where it doesn't get stolen by a whale camping in diamond

[shell hazel]

I'm 373 today, 381 for my next jump but I'm out of core dust and battle data so next levels will slow down a bit

[drowsy bridge]

This entire match up can be a toss up honestly. I have strife winning by one match. I appreciate the extra input

[tropic summit]

you're not in deficit yet, this is like fighting any opponent, counters look on point

[shell hazel]

thanks Rail, bit concerned my Noise may die before I b2 though, even with tempura, any good way to prevent that risk?

wondered if I could still 2RL with biscuit instead, t3 I can just skip anyway

think Noah p1 is also risky

my main goal now is just to stay outside of deficit and screw with them some more 😄

I think there is a cindy variant counter with biscuit / helm that is still 2RL

[swift mango]

Still he can't def.

[shell hazel]

i'm OK with that, I'll just yoink it back to mess with em

I haven't largely been able to defend it anyway, apart from today where he somehow failed like 4 times

I'd still love to know how/why because I didn't even change my teams

[oblique igloo]

Do you guys have an idea on who to slot here? I also have huge deficit in my bracket ( everyone around 100/150 levels above me)

[swift mango]

Once upon a time I kept hitting my whale and took C1 so he would waste gem. Until he invested and 60+ level difference.

Once upon a time I also hit my Gemmer and make him waste hundreds of gems a day until I realized making new def is just tiring.

Now I'm too lazy to even check SpA. Hope it stays like this so I don't have to come back to hitting people when they sleep.

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

I don't make new defences each time no point 🙂

they can likely beat anything I set, and if I set anything too good they'll just copy it

it's more about sending a message, I just steal 1 for a bit and they can stew over it or worry about it as they see fit

[summer copper]

best defence is a plastic card

[shell hazel]

at this point I've had spot 1 for most of the time this season so they have some catching up to do 🙂

[oblique igloo]

I wonder if investing in bay was the right play

[fathom rock]

P1 to enemy P1 have more travel time than P1 to enemy P5 right?

[oblique igloo]

I could have went for poli as well so

Since I have no clue on how pvp works

[fathom rock]

With a small chip on it

[fathom rock]

Bay cook in ca

[oblique igloo]

ca?

Nvm it's champion arena ig

[fathom rock]

Ye

[oblique igloo]

I've been stuck diamond 7-9 for like one year

(i've never built arena nikkes or built teams for it)

[fathom rock]

Huh did you leave game and come back or something

[oblique igloo]

Nah, I'm just way lower level wise

[fathom rock]

Not pushing campaign well enough? Not buying all event tries every event hardmode?

[oblique igloo]

Closest is like 30? 40 ? Levels above, and it's the same for below me

[fathom rock]

Hoarding cases?

[oblique igloo]

I finished normal campaign with like between 20 and 25% deficit

[fathom rock]

Hard mode?

[oblique igloo]

21-7

[fathom rock]

Level 301-321 range?

[oblique igloo]

327

[fathom rock]

Not too bad there
And you buy event tries right?

[oblique igloo]

Yeah

[fathom rock]

When you start

[oblique igloo]

Always wait for hard mode ending

barracks look like that

I may or may not have invested in base sakura

[fathom rock]

... Did you leave your outpost unattended or what

Or you returnee
A 327 did not start crown event

[oblique igloo]

I started at sbs

[fathom rock]

......

[oblique igloo]

[fathom rock]

How are you 129 synchro levels behind

[oblique igloo]

I have no clue

[fathom rock]

Show inventory rn

[gaunt pulsar]

small question - when people referring to p1-p5 do they talk about team line up before the fight or actual line up during the fight? it gets reversed and p1 placed at p5 position when you attacking so I was just wondering i guess it should be line up before the fight right?

[fathom rock]

Before fight

In fight your p1 is left
Enemy P1 is right

Outside fight both p1 on left

[oblique igloo]

I was waiting to see if I could progress hard mode before using cases

[fathom rock]

Something went wrong
Pvp Invest doesn't fix this

[oblique igloo]

I genuinely don't know because everyone in my server is around lvl 400 but I still somehow keep up in tower rankings

Except that one guy 200 lvls above everyone

[fathom rock]

Ark rankings don't matter in that regard Bro my acc started same time, has more core dust hoarded and is at 438

[oblique igloo]

I genuinely don't know what happened 😭

[fathom rock]

Do you use all event tries on 1-11 hard mode

Did you always do your dailies

[oblique igloo]

Yeah, I just never play arena

[fathom rock]

Did you perchance start buying event tries only recently

[oblique igloo]

I probably didn't do it for like my first 5 months

[fathom rock]

Even that doesn't set you this far back....

[oblique igloo]

But otherwise yeah

[fathom rock]

Well whatever is going wrong here, this acc is cooked in pvp you can't save it

Unless 💳

[oblique igloo]

No shot

And I just gave 3 purples dolls to moran, Rumani and did the bay treasure quest

[gaunt pulsar]

is pvp doesn't care about you account power and only places you with players that started at the similar time?

[fathom rock]

Yes

[gaunt pulsar]

weird

[oblique igloo]

That's why at first it was easy and then the third quarter of 2024 I started falling off due to pure lvl diff

[fathom rock]

you can fully transition to solo raid only

Where whole account focus Is solo raid rank

[oblique igloo]

Genuinely?

That's unfortunate

[fathom rock]

Yeah solo raid doesn't care about sync level but pvp does

[oblique igloo]

I think it might be salvageable after looking at rankings synchro lvls

[fathom rock]

People in ark rankings arent the only peeps in your pvp brackets

[oblique igloo]

diamond 3 might be achievable, I'm not that behind

Nah I'm looking at arena

[fathom rock]

And there is reshuffling to filter out the inactive players there

[gaunt pulsar]

you have like 90k core dust just in challenger boxes

[oblique igloo]

That's only 9 lvls

[fathom rock]

More if he opens all the other boxes below

But the gain won't get him to like 361

[oblique igloo]

Tbf I'm quite below rn because I changed my "highest invested nikkes" to pvp oriented ones so they don't have 15 purples and crazy ols compared to like, alice or rrh or summer sakura

I fon't even know what are the skill lvls for arena compared to se

Besides 10/10/10

[fathom rock]

You can skill reset any pvp only units you invest when the time comes so atleast that's salvageable

Curios tho whats your in game name

[oblique igloo]

I won't give up on pvp

[fathom rock]

[oblique igloo]

GALAXY

Server uh 18773

What I remember is that I couldn't unlock sbs hard mode when I started

[fathom rock]

We aren't together

Me 18670

[oblique igloo]

A little bit later

But yeah I'm extremely behind in lvls

Don't know how to fix it

[fathom rock]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-credit-card-debit-card-debit-gif-27376677

[oblique igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/scripulous-fingore-mario-new-super-mario-bros-gif-27542964

[fathom rock]

[oblique igloo]

I've played less than 400 rookie arena matches

[fathom rock]

Makes we wonder what part of dailies did you miss

[oblique igloo]

I always finished dailies, but without ever touching arena

[fathom rock]

arena doesn't contribute to your core dust gain unless you need the gems in order to buy dust

[oblique igloo]

Never missed sim, never missed interception either

My cubes are a little low because of mlb nihilister but

[gaunt pulsar]

did you always pushed the story? or started later and maybe got giga stuck somewhere? shouldn't be that much of a difference still but i guess getting less daily contributes to gap

[oblique igloo]

Always pushed main, delayed hard mode a lot because I was stuck on nihilister

[gaunt pulsar]

[oblique igloo]

I should try again but this time I'll get stuck on mw ig

I'm already 130k below cp at 21-8

But uh, back to og topic , how do these look like?

[swift mango]

kinda bad

And you don't want to burst with viper in area. At least fix that.

[gaunt pulsar]

she is treasured he have to

[swift mango]

he doesn't

[gaunt pulsar]

oh right, i guess he can skip her burst entirely

[oblique igloo]

Why not if she's treasured?

[shell hazel]

re-enter B2

will slow down your burst chain even if you have another b2 after her

there is a delay on every burst action

[oblique igloo]

Ok I just swapped jackal and noah then

Bay is only phase 1 treasure for now so I guess I can replace her with centi?

And I just slapped sg because I didn't know what to use considering my scarlet has 0 invest

[shell hazel]

point is you want noah left of viper

in the team order, so viper doesn't burst

[oblique igloo]

Done

[shell hazel]

jackal at p1 should be OK

jackal link units are ideally p1 / p2 / p5

have to balance burst order with that kind of thing though

[oblique igloo]

I never remember if p1 is left or right

[shell hazel]

same order you deploy in

it shows reversed on the replays but the order is as seen

as in attacker shows p1 left but defender p1 is right side as you look at it

[fathom rock]

You can beat mw while 200k under with meta team

[oblique igloo]

I genuinely forgot that jackal was with final atk

[shell hazel]

same when you look at the teams they deploy, it's in the order left to right on the summary before you fight

[oblique igloo]

I can't pass 21/8 anyway

[shell hazel]

are you pc or mobile?

[oblique igloo]

Pc because it became unplayable on my phone

[shell hazel]

auto battle or do you manual?

[oblique igloo]

manual

[fathom rock]

Crown siren rh rrh helmT decimate the entire chapter

[shell hazel]

I used the Klo video as a guideline: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhE7hO-AjlQ

[oblique igloo]

I do not have rh , never got her

[shell hazel]

you should be able to do this if you are 500K++ even if a bit skill issued

with same comp

ok we throw that one away then haha

you don't really need her I think, might just need a bit more power instead

[oblique igloo]

Still waiting while I got another grave dupe today

[fathom rock]

Sbs or modernia or alice or cindy all working here

[fathom rock]

How many klo clears did I accidentally beat

[oblique igloo]

I get one shotted by the guys from 21/8 and I don't pierce fast enough

[fathom rock]

Full charge helm with everyone else in cover for burst gen

[shell hazel]

some stages need you to burst quick or cover quick

[fathom rock]

Or spam alice

[oblique igloo]

It's kamikaze guys

[shell hazel]

RH helps with those but alice can do so also

you can i-frame the bombs sometimes, bit of RNG 😄

[oblique igloo]

I'll try alice

[fathom rock]

If you time cover you'll avoid them completely, watch the video it'll prove useful

[shell hazel]

you're retro +10% power though sir

[fathom rock]

Oh wait that's mw

[shell hazel]

yeah maybe someone has a good vid of 21-8 without RH

[oblique igloo]

It just worked this time with crown shield

[fathom rock]

https://youtu.be/qxFuD13igTU?si=pKiPvqZiu1h4vjQY

[oblique igloo]

They randomly didn't kill

[shell hazel]

there is sometimes RNG with things like that haha

[fathom rock]

Can't do mald without rng

[shell hazel]

the number of times I restart a stage just to get good RNG 😄

[oblique igloo]

I remember my og clear of mw, using noah burst then manual crown to get the taunt + invul during the mobs

[shell hazel]

I still needed manual crown taunt

but the rest was a bit easier, just gunned for the ports like klo did

then kill the waves asap when they show up, cover the overhead bit, and hope the missiles miss 😛

what power is your main team?

[fathom rock]

Noah burst was completely unnecessary

[oblique igloo]

My alice is C7 with good atk ol (no elem unfort but whatever I'm not spending 3 months on this) so I stopped using her zt one point

[oblique igloo]

It wasn't, I needed the burst for wave 2, and crown for wave 3

[fathom rock]

Modernia can solo clear all mobs

[oblique igloo]

528k with sbs, 555k with alice