#pvp-arena
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I won this due to siren stun blanc
it's the main weakness of this type of stall layout
... i just logged out 
I was too afraid of sirens to run this as t1 🥲
I kind of figured it's all rng anyway lol, I can put SBS at p1 but then she might die
hime folian are your unions day 1 clears

ok i need to stop slacking and find a day 1 union
god knows how many rewards ive missed out on all this time
Hime you make it yeah? 🙂
time to invest more in pvpppp
punching bag v2

Finally I can rest
Your rin right?

I swear I keep losing the Crit gacha

My score was 3-0 vs 3-0 and I'm only second the feeling was so bad when it happened It was back then when the winning factor for C.A wasn't fixed yet and first to kill oppo wins
I think i'll lose after I pass this league
Yea RNG is good if it helps, sucks IF NOT XD
194k helm 
I think he's a dolphin that characters Stacked
IKR I focused on pvp and mine is only 180K with 3 lines and some blue lines LOL
Yeah.. I was only running the RH + Jackal version for a while. But that's kind of too expensive and although not bad the returns are not that great imo
Bet he got a lot of black
same but 178k 
If blue lines is 178k or 180k like mine, then 194k is Black lines? cause im core6 helm

well I have 2 black cs lines and like 1 or 2 blue lines. only 3 ele lines I believe
so who knows what he has 
This is mine, 2 black line
182k 
so stacked 
I wanna break through 180k too 
Yea exactly my thoughts
you need 3 lines all in average and high levels
if you lose this t1 match thats 🫵 
Oh my team is stronger?
developers notes out
Thats a friendo
So means he beated the whale astha
First, the High-Quality Access Records, which gives you a chance to obtain an SSR Nikke or consumables for the High-Quality Perfect Mold once you collect a certain amount of it.
Second, the High-Quality Perfect Mold, which guarantees an SSR Nikke once you collect a certain amount of it. It can also be obtained through High-Quality Access Records.
Lastly, each Manufacturer's Perfect Mold, which guarantees an SSR Nikke from the corresponding Manufacturer (Elysion, Missilis, Tetra, and Pilgrim/Over-spec).
Good news for us F2P (Forced 2 Pay) jk
Guaranteed SSR nice ty shift up
Don't mind astaroth
He just put the team with the highest cp everywhere 
the stall reached a 'good enuf' point and I left it be, still working on raid units atm, but eventually (in the order of noise, moran, jackal, nero)
I do want to bring back mana in my stall, so I'll think about re-investing in her
yes 
What'd it say
Yea not cut out for this pvp stuff maybe I should invest in pve too 
I said I'm fine if folian wins bc I don't beat cup aaaand folian is in his revenge tour
also I get to sleep 
Always winning after becoming red ranger
Why do ppl p1 cindy always
wouldn't be me

Can you at least tell me the theory for that or wat it counters at least?
the real mvp of that is blanc and biscuit anyway 
being put of the misery early feels nice
who gets blanc?
anything that is non lethal or gets stuck auto-ing
Even though i am half invested in rapun and maiden?
it needs to face strong splashers or double buff scarlet, if cindy gets blanc + RH buff she can wipe stall team
sleepy time for phoric 
it's irrelevant, although generally it's cindy or RH
the point is to just cast cindy nuke past 4RL, no matter who's indommed
that team is the definition of yolo 
ser you can do 2nd full burst rotation, they dont. thats why if you losing, 🫵 
Interesting im gonna test that on rookie
out of ein, rrh and alice which one is the best in pvp? ein?
I've set up an appointment for nap time tomorrow too 
actually nvm I think Ill go for a walk
Most likely Ein for damage and less Rocks
gotta get the beauty rest for folian v phoric in groups round 3 next CA

Hahab like auto and hope for the best
never rest, always make progress towards next champion run 
it will be far closer than you think 
me rest though 
will they add a losers bracket?
I mean technically it's still beta
so they could revamp it with their own ideas

but I think their creative juices running low
hope they make CA happen not as often... maybe like, add an extra week in between? nvm, I like the extra arena exchange tickets
XD
This is Season 10 Beta tho, how many more seasons? XD
90 more 
@swift mango why you copy my comp 
hmm my run maybe done in top 64 
actually that impressive we have a same thought
Cup here to stomp on my dreams :<
sleep time
we all gonna sleep well tonight in group 1 
hibernation
time to invest 3% SR 
@short moon you'll likely be better running moran bay helm until you gear up your nero stall (and doll them). as you are now you'll lose to the latter 
an uninvested nero and rapu makes the team fall apart very quickly
:< next time, but im getting knocked out in this bracket anyway

i think right wins? like W L L W L for left
I just do this one 25 hours ago. It's valid comp just not very meta. 
No longer do I have to cheer for my opponent. 
nah i just sarcarsm here, i mean we dont interact but have a same idea
15/15 wins for me. Feel like a bully with my random ass teams. 
I lost to one, but still won overall.... go figure...
and i even cant get in top 64 this time
bro doesn’t have 1 vote
you're the final boss of your bracket
@swift mango
I lost to that Chris dude 2 times in a round, he's gonna have his 3 times CA winner soon. Then pass me with a 4th. 
I have seen like 4 guys got to champ in CA with his similar line up even 2 other guys multiple times like him so that's the meta right now... 
that's because you're letting them win
you're not trying anymore 
Not with my bricked Rapu account. 
wow that commander level diff lol what da hell
I had 15 wins precisely once and it was last CA 😛
@shell hazel I uploaded the videos.
It's a bit blurry and too quiet but does the job. 
vs you - https://youtu.be/pEArRjtxGsU
vs corleone - https://youtu.be/RAu_yR_Y7vQ
When server so small that players of 1 year apart from each other fight against each other. 
My whale made it to 64 again. Hope he could get far this time. 
Idk why he played this not-2rl team though.

thanks I'm just finishing Stellaris I'll boot mine up and grab my matches/upload as well 🙂
last guy was kind of random teams not sure if it's even worth adding theirs lol, I 5-0 them
tbh I skipped him by default
poor guy
These 2 guys are currently fighting for C4 in my bracket amongst other 4 guys. Maybe both of them wouldn't make it to CA next season. 
WL?
Should I change something
you almost make it sound like your rapunzel is a gamechanger for your bracket
I mean, a Nero team is a game changer.

just get lucky RNG and have your double buff scarlet against it
easy 
hi everyone here
I have gotten all my 5 teams last season able to win against it but that was the only win I got in the final. 
Having a Nero team free you up for slotting more options.
Imagine u meet the final boss of the game right in top 64
hey
it was deleted
run these your teams are on the left
(remove SG feed, it's a linked siren in p1)
nero team is very original
going in
Yeah, like every single guy who is competitive in CA has it now, except me. 
i also don't, welcome aboard
But I got Emi. 
i don't think you've told us in the past year enough
WWW
I just went with my 3rd team
thx!
Well, I just have to jump off your board. 😭
Anyway, you should build your Nero team. It's not that expensive.
Comparing to the rock I need to fix my Helm, scar and Emi. 
I'll double check if your version of our matches is basically the same (should be) a bit later on
for Corleone you got a bit unlucky with the scar vs stall comp I think, managed to carve through 3 of them though
I posted my copies here:
vs you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BquzmxtFzQ
vs Corleone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8LfN4KHt6w
yeah, I was a bit worried about vs his SG but it went easy as they were attacking
corleone got lucky with his sg attacking my scar
his ros had like 0.1% hp left at the end, the problem I see with 2RL scar is that I have this gap where scar can die
without a jackal to prevent it
I heard people using tempering cube on her bc she's such a glass cannon
she died before b3
gotta run away for a bit got a friend coming over soon, should be back on after reset
(rumani almost solod them at the end lmao)
maybe some more CS on the batteries would help get to burst a bit quicker
or yeah change of cubes perhaps
his sg team pretty well invested
right back in a few hours 🙂
it's expensive because it needs to doll up both nero and moran
rapunzel is also still on blue doll
btw despite that you rumani was holding her position for quite long lol
it's either your rumani is too strong or corleone doesn't have great OL lines just lot of CP (but all SR 15 still)
4% rosanna is just RNG, a bit better scarlet s2 and she'd be dead
Ludmilla treasure when? Just need to make this skill "entering burst stage 2". 
I need help with cubes. Who gets what for pvp
i saw you got the rng luck back where you could defend agaist hist nero stall. They died pretty fast attacking them from backwards
Tempering on every one. 
Really
ok thanka
Or just p1+2 the rest your highest level

keep in mind that team is not 2RL
at best it's pushed to 2.5RL via CS%, but not 2RL, which makes it weak to 2RL scarlet
consider a different B3 over cindy to turn it 2RL, e.g. s.anis or SBS
to give you an idea

Okay, quantum on all of them and you would have a 2.2rl team. 
Enough to block no CS, no feeds, 2rl Nuke I guess. 


I can’t believe my dumb team actually won this 💀

Why i won't make ca 
I should save a try next time to snipe
I don't have to deal with aria anymore so life easier
Buddy your tema got -10 investments 
Anis highest power is a sight to behold

lock in
go sleep kuwon 
if I don't 3% Ziz it's gg 
Send help sorry for my bad editing 
wtf am I looking at why are their teams so potato 
both of these teams are 
That's why I need help 
i think it comes down to t5
LRRL?
Rip these teams 
yeah it's t5 LMAO
left
left
right
left
left
didn't actually check speed, just eyeballing 
yeah T5 maybe HAHAHA
and I'm not 100% sure on t5 either
Keep in mind t1 left has absolutely 0 investment lmao
I am not sure on any prediction I make here
nvm
right should win t1
Right then 
I sense a misindom on t5 that's why idk lmao
Auto 5x pvE teams 
T5 give some neon will beat bay twice vibes
misindom doesn't matter, SDoro cannot carry even if misindom
she will be walled regardless who gets indom
How tf did they even qualify
worse teams 
300-400 commander level. That’s not low 
actually the team 2 matchup sus 
even if misindom RH cannot carry back to front either
@tropic summit come take a look, bring bleach
comes down to whether Rapi splash can kill Alice
back- (you know what but I'd get muted)


this why you're about to be exiled from ca for 3 months
I think right will win though because of how peepee left t1 invest is
Bay stunned, BSoda nuke probably does like half HP 
then they wipe to Cinderella
t2 really depends
though 3s Noah should be more than enough for RH to wipe backwards
rh is attacking noir first no?
well it's the same issue as team 5
Not me thinking right right right left left
RH can't shoot through indom from back

so Rapi splash has to kill Alice
welp
before Noah 3s runs out, or Alice maybe wipes
gl retro 
gamba with credits
believe in the 
Atleast thanks to god it's the 64 cheer

in my defense we all thought the opposite 
who would've guessed ace would've won 3 counter matches 
In my defense I'll listen to ace he even help me when they snipe me 
Me vs 2 kr dudes that work together
Ohhhh
OHHHHHHHHH
That explains a lot 

I'm a test subject
this man have too much time on his hands
to play 2 account
at the same creation date


pvp research 
Well I'm 7 cd/h ahead in campaign what can go wrong

And he f2p we see how this ages
I was buffing her some recently with OL and such 🙂
seems I am gg then
gonna get annihilated by double Scar counter

yep truly the real rng lol
Show percentage after 19h
I lost a match which was always a guaranteed win before because of SAnis S2 hitting twice per proc now 
Pvp so sane
I cheered for myself so that'll determine whether I go for win frame or lose frame
Then it makes sense 
Q: If I tank in Special Arena, will it put me in a weaker group next round?
@spare brook in my case I never report anything, I never made a post myself in those channels, I only post the bugs we noticed here like this one below, I just leave the reporting to others, I'm too lazy to make a formal post.
#pvp-arena message
Rosana win this ?
Is that Gabe @copper creek ?
They were 2nd place in group if it is
Nope
That'll be so abusable
sounds like a lot of people have it rough this shuffle 
Keeping top 4 in SA is too much pressure, especially after I got reshuffled into a higher-level group this round.
I went from being a CA champ contender to someone who can’t even qualify for CA.
I start thinking on quit the game...
Calm down
is still on beta
Also we're getting new game mode in October
I'm on C5 bc my attack didn't work 
Pls remind me to snipe

don't forget
Hime ill give you 5 dollars if you can get me to top 3 in my spa
what is $5 gonna buy me

10 limited pulls

Only if you didnt buy it already
I did but f2p version
A monthly recharge 
Can I run someone other than rumani or pepper?
Using jackal will need to relocate Biscuit
@placid bloom you were right 
also congrats! looks like you could have a shot at ace tomorrow 
i didn't check todays match ups yet though. hope it's and easy W
@short moon grats as well! lets try to move on today and can face each other tomorrow locked at sl400 instead of the sp situation 😬
Idk i might lose, I think bad team match up for me
I am here again once more asking what to use vs 2 RL Scarlet, Trina, Rosanna team 
2rl noah, 2rl blanc
you missing 2 letters
what's that ur bet?
today's? i think you win right? at least winning 1,3,4 i think. the glitches are kind funky though. hard to tell now
@fathom rock probably
the pies will bless you with good luck 🥧
or against a potential match up between us tomorrow? looks at least unclear
you should win 2/5 and i should 3/4. then t1 is weird glitched jackal indom vs jackal indom. i have no idea who wins
Well I didn’t expect 5/5 but I did expect t1 win with Jackal bug

ok, so it can't be beaten
jackal bug seems legit crazy. i didn't get a chance to see it at all in SP or rookie, but watching the replays in CA and the burst is so fast
Yeah normally teams only feed around 10% but now they’re feeding 20%
i'm just assuming any team with jackal on it wins now
It’s still hard to get 1.5RL so if they have low feed 2RL Noah Biscuit then that can still win
But it makes Blanc so much better into non-Biscuit
Pray4good lucks
Congrats, you can't burst now
please add a burst 1

You either use Rumani or pepper to keep team fast and able to burst
too low power when using the team anyway
You can use Mica Buddy as well 
Go on, max Mica
first cheer heh
gonna give up on trying to get loser frame, so pointless
not gonna review any matches but at least won't try to actively boycott my bets
@umbral belfry ALERT. 3 BUFF EMILIA COULDN'T ONE SHOT ON 30 LEVEL DIFF
ALERT!!!
It's time for Malogro to take C3 
@clear vessel you invested Emilia right 

Summer Anis also works 
yeah I really feel that 30 level sync gap, my whale is trying to cp gap me atm
he's not far off succeeding to some degree, though maybe I can still prod him from time to time 😛

???
@fathom rock Retro chinese/asian letter named dude took you down!
Summer Anis and Helm did stay alive
DR+your emi stats, after that they will heal with helm b3 (?)
Well, it may not get me anything, but i'm dang well pleased with the performance still 😄
And the one fight was a 3-2 loss, have to capture and see where to improve, and then my future teams might be set.
so they know... 
@eager mountain
imagine if they actually do implement a brute-force preventing system that kills gemming against same opponent 
But why
since this dude/dudette from support actually seemed to put effort in getting this feedback to the team, i even bothered giving 4 stars out of 5
they do get these feedbacks, the problem is whether the higher ups bother implementing them or not
For the double trigger pvp bug?
as i worked for a company that had a "service assurance" team, what comes in first is always:
-how many users are impacted
-how much does this fix cost
-what do we get out of it?
if the answer is KO for the last 2, the feedback is discarded
in this game, PvP is non-lucrative to SU and secondly, adding fixes have a development cost, they'll NEVER bother if it brings no return I guess
was worth a shot i guess 
but what about the people spending to stay higher sync than everybody so they dont get hit 
yes but how about they also dont make sync 618 the 3rd lowest sync in top10
you whaled? 
still non lucrative, it's just giving an edge to spenders which leads to them spend more on banners, but it's not directly related to pvp
haha, touché. 
I remember buying the monthly daily thing for core dust
But ended up getting skill mats instead

The first time I thought we got all of it, but it was a poop selector
nah it's my opponent who is whaling
People actually spend to level up? Dafuq
🐳
I was young
let me illustrate
"wait if i try this it will work"
"screw that i'm gonna throw random things until they work"
"lol this game is crap"
"oh you know what lemme try 1 more... aaand it didn't work, stupid game"
"wait no i was probably just unlucky, lemme retry...it didn't work again"
"ok one more attempt, i'm gonna get this guy"
"ok, i'll just try again later"

that PvE main was the way all along
He's spending gems everyday to stay above me in sp arena tho 
it's not the player, it's the game ultimately 
the player is obviously a special snowflake, but the game enables that behavior
in fact, promotes it
"here, have 1 more try for just 100gems, endlessly"
me vs whale
I still have 4 sp arena chips, and 9 rookie arena chips. They are a mark of my purity
Do I gave my 3 ol sbs the t9m boots or sdoro 
he's helping you get ahead in rookie. what a nice guy 
I find these kind of spenders usually get bored pretty soon. Haven't encountered a guy who's this persistent yet (only been playing for a year)
29 levels, that's cute, come back when it's 61 
Wrong chat oops
Bro has bad OLs?
29 + they max core and actually invested/dolls on some units ;9
siren that man
still doable, i'd trade for that
oh yeah can do, I mean if it works, it works lol
but this works as well tbf
i'll keep biting their heels if they get 401 soon and I am still in range
no peace until I'm gapped fully 😄
your opponents seem somewhat skill issued as well though Rail as they can't beat you all the time
which one
keep in mind they've broke through over 20 defenses at this point via brute forcing
in around 2 months
if you successfully defend against +60 sync with invested units and the cp go with it then they have some kind of skill/theory issues
What do people think of the treasure Poli? I wasn't sure to focus on bay or Poli first and just went for Poli first
so how have they lost to any of them? 😄
not worth it, you can skip
those are not whels, just chinnits
you do not defend against whels, it's impossible unless they're running really dumb attack teams
if they not whel how are they +60 sync?
i think you're mixing up the opponents
Hey how can I beat this team?
@shell hazel this is whel
Saw a guy radeki in champ arena with all maxed core characters but only rank sub 500. Crazy spending
Oh, forgot to say big thanks to Enriched Cooks and @gritty ridge , wouldn't have gotten even this far without the assistance 
noah biscuit jackal s.anis helmt
good work 
Can swap S.anis to other?
not serious enoug that whel not even max doll noah 🙁
I don't have
Glad I could help a little
noah biscuit rh helmt jackal
hit shooting range and leave it before running that team to enforce RH to shoot p5
They aren’t 2rl. Can siren cindy 
if they had max dolls i'd be CP gapped genius
past 20% deficit against biscuit locked
What da hell is this trick
spaghetti code
When will there be another counter to biscuit other than s anis
whom most of us don't have yet 😛
@shell hazel look at the things i've to build to hit that mf
ironically bugged s.anis might open another option
need help with sbs team, how does this look
blanc sbs rapu helmt centi
fix the ordering and it might work
plus you can remove helmt and put a clip SG instead, you can use helmt elsewhere
17.92% charge speed helm
but why put blanc in p1? Rapunzel can stun at 30% also will avoid siren stun, idk if blanc can burst fast enough to avoid siren stun, it would be a problem if rapunzel in p1 gets nuked by SG team tho
ah you're in the UK too, fellow UK person 
the packs are usually cheaper in $ for me on the pc client, for some reason
narrow defeat 
I don't get those ones though

Noah biscuit cindy siren helmt/jackal?
stun noah
Don’t think helm is double triggering
, if she did, they could 2rl?
did you record the match? is your RH invested? is noah running temperance? did biscuit die to splash before giving second s2 stack?
those are the first things that come to mind
TY will try tomorrow.
because shotguns can delete rapunzel before you even hit burst
then you're B1less
Maybe the tail end of the burst hit the team since cindy burst is dynamic now 
once you reach those points, you'll taste what deficit is
until then, you should be able to enjoy being a little bit gapped
as it adds to challange
I don't think i should be tampering with pvp anymore. everyone is hella competetive. my efforts work for someone then i got 4 more to worry about taking my place
its just a damn web
theres no peace
this game pvp is not for the faint of heart 
I did not. But last was Cindy Helm vs RH helm then I lost :c
stick to a rank you can comfy hold then just peak upward
you were not in deficit right?
Guys is there any possible viable squad that doesn't feed jackal 20 hits on 2 linked targets in 2rl
<10%
lowest feed team i can think of
it's between 14-22 bullets
will see like I said will hit if I can, don't want to let em chill in 1st with no competition, at least they'll be having to watch their back
Yeah, maybe. Appreciate it anyway.
that's healthy for both of you
won't get rusty and just gather dust
it was not for you, it was in reply to @jagged mesa
either way you welcome, always try to record your matches, they give important info (CS%, invest, other variables we don't know before seeing it... etc)
do you think i can use Jackal in the SBS team? would scarlet work without Jackal? like if I had Jackal Rapunzel cant get nuked in the other team
No no no, that far from whel 
But that's 14 assuming only hitting one linked target, meaning if I link p1 p2 I can guarantee 20 hits right?
we got a feed here where people record and post their matches?
that is whel
If enemy use moran helm bay. 2rl scar trina siren kinda mid 
Nvm there are a couple of 2rl sub20 feed comps, but nothing I should even be worried about seeing in an actual PvP match
I sleep 
curious, lets say you bursted with rrh she dies during burst and is revived by mana, is she still using her burst skill ? i would assume nope
People just post the vids in this channel
There’s no threads 
Ok. What are we working with.I've taken him out before but now he came back to haunt me with this 

Some interesting teams 
He doesnt got any favorite item laplace or other ladies it seems. My best chance to take over
t1 - no defence
t2 - noah p1 hello siren
t3 - I love feed?
How are you losing to those badly made teams.. maybe you are cp gapped?
these are indeed some booboo kaka teams 
this team? I haven't tried but if moran's on P1 siren would stun her before burst since the team is 3 RL also 2RL scarlet should nuke before Bay even casts, but I haven't seen a bay yet so i wouldnt know
hmm why bay with nero?
that is "i don't want anyone to play, i like singleplayer" 
not doing much
whale
wants to burst with Bay instead of Nero for 2nd go around
actually ur right bay should burst not nero so moran has to be p1 with at least 2.5RL to avoid scarlet nuke
@placid bloom it seems like our sp is settling in
except caius attacks me everyday maybe u can take his p4
No something like
Moran helm rumani bay laplace/xmaiden
i need a team to do pvp with (after i work on them )
Used SR5 10/9/10 Nero
She still died after the second burst ended and the rest didn't last too long
Would SR15 help a lot or do I lack something else?
lemme in there i gotcha 
Moran can be swapped for another unit
, rumani for clip rl as long as b1> bay> helm burst
When both teams have the same speed exactly, 2rl vs 2rl, whose burst will deal damage first: Scarlet or Helm?
And bay still has cover to diver scar nuke to bay cover
will u help kuwon or just sit in p1 🤔
i will protect you both as a bodyguard
Nero 4 atk lines? Also this one of the reasons I prefer Lap+ now over Quiry 
is bina columbina?
scarlet nuke is denied there (by bay), helmt will delete scarlet
no 
I was focusing on getting three stats for cp padding
what madness is this.
oh I quit 

stay away from that 
same 
Nero needs 4 atk
Moran needs 4 def
Lie 
Need CS 18 in all 3, well at least HelmT and Rapu I guess
Just give moran 4 atk
are you really gonna question the Nero Moran master 
If its Lap+ version, HelmT is the only one that needs CS
:pepeh:
I got one black line on charge damage when resetting, gonna be rough changing it for atk..
charge dmg nero 
How about xmaiden?
thank you for the reply. Does scarlet's burst need more frames to apply compared to Helm's? Or has the defending Helm team a slight speed advantage thanks to her nuke?
gotta back yourself, I go for loser frame and back the other guy lol
Evil
How does Bay+ deny scarlet there?
Idk but I think I’m pertty dead 
if you lay the teams out here I don't mind checking 😄
otherwise I can only eye ball a bit
Nah I eye ball
I took out Corleone in quals
Likely dead team 2 and 5
he's in same union as the last two finalists
Other than nero moran, who wants temper cube
lol 2 of my bracket is in top 64, that means my bracket is actually competent
i'm def / top
I don't see how they'd win this
t1 - sg's into biscuit locked def
t2 - 2rl scar wins this
t3 - their cindy is too slow, I don't think it gets much quicker even with some cs or quantums
t4 - my sg's on def will rip helm and rh to pieces
t5 - don't think scar has enough damage to beat my stall
Why can’t I get easy matches
idk wtf is going on here but you won
is that really a must? Rapunzel is one thing but doing it on Helm is super rough with my current stats, I'm at 11% CS with the cube included
I'm probably gonna spend 2-3 rock per reset and losing a good chunk of CP needed to push hard mode 
my next match would look more challenging, probably against jojo guy
what do you mean how? it's bay purpose, eating nukes with her cover on same speed
@small hatch third match in this vid
Yeah, I see it now. Probability of Helm team winning?
with jackal apparently being super cracked with burst gen due to the bug, you could maybe lose t5 but otherwise you're good
I don't think she can massively get it faster than 2RL though
idk, my noise noah jack got to 1rl 
usually you only get 1RL in weird exceptional things like cindy at p1 lol
jackal has double proc rate now
^
you can x2 usual feed
but regardless, win or lose t5 it doesn't matter
sr15 on xmaid when 

I'll probably look at with new solo raid soon, I could maybe get it done now, but not 100%
was going to see how vesti was before I commit to too much
yeah i'm saving my doll mats too
who are you building next?
I will prio my SPA core units I guess, to build to an extent where I can be competitive with whels
mostly in good spots it's OL gear + levels I need more of and some rolls ofc
Yeah no not gonna bother max dolling Moran/nero, I got sanis to do in sept
I do still really want to build pve stuff but I also want my pvp teams kind of done lol
No u don’t, ur not done until u beat me with 150 sync difference 
Man why I keep roll hit rate on things that don’t need hit rate
I do still have more I want to do here and my pve is going fine
Well its up to you, but that CS requirement is made to ensure that you can burst with Moran at least before whatever enemy 2 RL nuke comes in. HelmT is actually the one most required to have CS coz she is the unit that has the most bg gain among the team, at least 18%+ is best, ideally 26% (with CS cube) if you are extremely lucky
as in campaign anyway lol
been playing for 20 days or so, is this account good? which teams to use in arena (i rank 70-100 usually is that decent ?) please help me out :3
push campaign first and foremost
liter b1
Decent mix
i am, but i wanna know what to put in synchro for arena and which teams to slot there just to push some gems weekly
yes that's a decent pvp start, pve wise having RH or SBS would help a bit more, but it's a good start with RRH and maid duo
well I'll try on some least useful stat she got then
scarlet jackal in early pvp acc 
Better than my start anyway, I had to work with bunny duo for the longest time
so rrh maid duo and Sdoro liter that's my campaign team? how about arena defense / offense, like teams i put together to at least push a bit with my free tries, i loose like more than win in pvp and as u guys know there's a chance to win since margin isn't high between CP
the prydwen tier list for pvp is alright
You could try to reroll for a account with crown+siren but you are playing with astronomical odds 
I'd not re-roll off a rapi RH maid duo scarlet etc account tbh lol
lacking crown mainly for pve but maid duo are capable
Ye
Number 3 of my server still have no crown 
so guys any 3 teams for pvp 
get familiar a bit with deck builder and how the teams work, you need a combination of speed and power, this is the easiest one to use
https://nikke-deck.web.app/
Create and share a GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE deck
top Def bottom Atk, I believe the sbs team wins. Am I wrong?
i'm justy a casual gacha player, i pull for size and i can't read nor calculate
Man brother copium with grave, it is what it is
top is 2.5 RL
both could be with right CS
^
for arena you'll want a mix of pve and pvp core units, manly teams that will invovle scarlet, jackal and centi
of those units available you could run the folllowing 2 + a CP pad
that scarlet team will be also your main attack team, as it's almost good to go on his own already
no blanc, cindy might wipe
volume makes her entrance
depending on the investment, it's a coin flip
think noah will catch both initial nuke trades
then sbs might take
viper's skill 1, would it be active even if viper dies?
they have biscuit though
the top team has higher investment and combat power
sbs into biscuit can go badly
It goes both ways though
I think top might take
I think the teams have roughly the same speed and sbs will survive Cindy's burst unharmed. Cindy's auto attacks will be nullified by Noah+biscuit while sbs applies consistent pressure
Cindy is completely shut down by Noah, while SBS is also shut down by Noah Bisc but only during the time Noah is immune.. my only gripe on that SBS team is, it is using Rapu and not Noise 🤔
But who know, SBS S1 proc 3 is bugged right now
@shell hazel which side is attack again? left?
left/top attack
I feel SBS will have some time even if its just the last 2 sec to deal some serious damage
right/bottom defend
It doesn’t work in pvp
But in pve yes
Would be funny if nikkes like modernia and nihilister counted as targets 
Just for 10s though or shorter

So its kinda useless if Viper is ever to die on PvE 
bring it
bottom should win. noah + bisc vs sbs is a very very hard fight for sbs to win
I guess this is slightly similar.. not sure if dropping to 400 sync would have any effect though 
but bc sbs is currently bugged. who knows 
double bug fight 
does emilia's dmg not matter? Both have noah+biscuit
But rumani bisc second round buffs cindy
considering it's sbs bursting and not emi, shouldn't
Do you think this would have lost if my Nosie died after Noah did?
@shell hazel me bootom, looks like rip, ill see u guys next time
team building help pls! for rookie and special arena offense and defense
how are these level 500s needing help all of a sudden
It does???
what in god's name is that t3 stall on bottom 
also you're not defending
you're doing my brain a confusion
Entering b3 stage gives cindy atk buff.
No helm or rapu 
the problem lies with the fact that attack is a piece of cake, defense is getting destroyed
that's what happens when you keep releasing nikke that are strong on attack
😭 an attempt was not made on that team
Mmh? So only need B2 to get the atk buff 🤔
i'm bottom how cooked i'm i #pvp-arena message
Yeah
wouldn't know i'm a pve main 
I didnt know whos defending, the stall is uninvested with blue dolls only
Ah thx
I somehow feel the Biscuit S2 will be quickly used up coz of Emi. SBS can still win as long they didn't allow it to enter a 2nd round of burst. Tho tbh, If only SBS is not bugged, I would have voted on the Cindy pronto 
Yeah 
Not necessarily. Your cindy team winning makes me question my sanity. This is a close match up no matter what, sbs team seems to be inferior here thanks to your video. But I wonder if the better stats could make a difference
The ai is telling me to pvp, the ai knows my weakness 
you likely lose t4. all your sgs hitting scar and you have no rosa to nuke scar
I also am not sure, coz enemy is using double bugged unit atm, and there is an Emi too. The thing with SBS is, the lesser the opponent units, the quicker she can kill. But yeah it could go both ways, if Cindy team can outlast until a 2nd burst with Rumani Biscuit they win as long Cindy still has decent hp, else it could go to bugged SBS and Rapu team
also if that top team knows better, they're likely 2rl
Hime look at their teams and tell me if they know what they're doinh
but i'm not online 
but we have railtracer gpt 
Not to mention CA is locked to 400 sync so lower max hp means also lower decoy hp, so the chances of Cindy taking one Biscuit S2 is not low 
T1 I lose fs, they're gonna obliterate pascal and nuke me
rip the goat
Noah biscuit, whar do I do vs it
t5 is 50/50 too btw
neither of you have noah. you don't and other noah is stunned
so it's just a cindy showdown 
Im slower cindy so I should win
you're both 3rl
Im less 3rl tho
when we say slower we mean like 2 rl vs 3rl
Ah ok
?
?
you said you're less than 3rl?
No I said im less 3rl l, as in im further from next breakpoint
So those two teams and the rest whatever i have the most CP in? How about position order P1 left to right P5?
My bad on the wording there
still more or less 50/50 as you're both within 3rl range
all you can do now is pray to rng and to pull off the meanest underdog ever 
What if miranda die
How do I deal with these two teams?
then it's gg for bigboi
i hope your miranda is your most invested unit
Miranda is so strong

yes in the order i gave you in the SS
pos 1 leftmost, pos 5 rightmost
Noise cindy vs trina cindy 
First team also main team for offense and defense normal arena
btw im not countering your much lower investment, only matchups. so really due to that big factor anything goes
granted idk how invested your opponent is either. maybe they're low too 
T2 your focus is to kill p1, they can no longer burst
T1 your focus is to AoE nuke or a unit that can bypass noah (snipers target p5, as long as they're not taunted in p1 or p2 by noah) or use s.anis
I feel whoever burst first between the 2 loses 

baby but they know how to snipe and attack when people log off 
I don't effing know man, but I'm going to give the W to team Cindy because they get to burst a second time and turn the tide with minor buffs while sbs will keep mindlessly autoattacking until they die lol

Based on dolls its lpw
then there's hope 
These are my Cindy lines
So it comes down to cindy v cindy for the win i think
4 rock rolls 
I learned from the best
Hime taught me how to snipe
or at least i think for t2. 2rl bay vs 2.5 noah
is noah gonna make it in time
Well record a vid and post how the matchup goes later.. as I'm very curious who wins between the 2 while SBS and Rapu is bugged during a CA match 
Bay isnt p3, shes gonna lose cover
bc if not and helm attacks before noah and shield it's 
it's possible for her two lose cover in p1 yeah. but apparently with treasure it's harder?
Would Cindy, ein, or sbs work best vs Noah biscuit? They're all pretty invested
I mean shes being focused by 5 units, I dont think she keeps
They're all nukes, no?
then again last ca i fought a p1 bayT and they lost almost all cover very quick
granted i had LapT there to make a big difference
I hate how every CA match has that one nearly unpredictable coinflip round that determines the outcome of the whole bet
i'm just not sure if 2.5 noah will make it in time for 2rl helm's nuke. bc if she doesn't then
goodbye
i can see bay's cover surviving bc helm and rh aren't hitting bay. they're hitting xmaid
True
and noise noah + maiden shouldn't be enough to break p1 bay cover
We'll see tmr i suppose
if you upgrade your units in CA after the registration day, do later matches in CA reflect those changes?
lock in and be the underdog 
no 
Can I theoretically stun p1 Noah then just nuke everyone else that isnt a defender 
He doesn’t actually attack you for real, he just attacks like 15 seconds before reset so that the game puts him in battle and I can’t attack him lol
May I ask for some cooking help? Looking to update my defense teams
I will be ultimate underdog
WAIT thats so genius WTF
Problem is my Def is so CP gapped I can’t defend if I swing into him earlier
Mine is like 450k per team, I think I need closer to 490k to not get deficit
I actually could defend against him during the short period I hit 321 and he was still not 341
But it was too short
I dont buy cd so not sure how we're ahead of u tbh
maybe some random bits from the ticket packs
Caius started a week earlier I’m pretty sure
Cuz he is the same server as my test account I think? I made one to learn the game mechanics before playing for real
Im reading the keripo tierlist and their writeup only says emi can delay and beat Noah, what the hell beats Noah biscuits 
nothing 
I was stuck on campaign longer than you, I think I was like 4 chapters behind when you reached MC or something
My CP is just naturally lower
Steel is similar progress to me
I did trihard at the beginning + crown around ch 25
Guess I'll go for team 2 and team 3
did u OL5 could be that
I didn’t OL5
I spread my invest over a lot of chars
Steel doesn’t build PvP though
His 3rd team is CP pad SR chars
u can outspeed the first with a proper team and stun the second with siren
I think he only builds PvE except for some clip RLs
I can be in range for both teams
smart u hit 3% before most of us lmao
Tbh I think Kraken was just lucky that people have weak water
I don’t think I can 3% Ziz
What should I use vs team 2 and 3 though 
My fire is too trash
Would noise Cindy siren work vs the scarlet team?
Depends on the team, how quick it is, and who is the B3
Double buff Scar is lethal through Noise pretty sure, you need Noah
Unless you stun 
But Idk his ammo
Does it say their ammo when you fight them
Gut tells me they don't have high invest scar
so they may have no ammo rolls and siren wont work
Low invest Scar might have no ammo yes
just build
Well, just do it. At least they don't require any rock above 4 each. 
I mean, no ol scarlet just dodges siren, right?
She is my strongest char but I don’t think it’s enough just to have 1 strong fire
? From the old campaign days
what if u build vesti?
I might skip Vesti
ive been skipped absolute so far tho
yea dont really pull for meta either
but worst case can grab 1 copy
maybe we get her from the all the new molds 

Naga, sbs, rh, however you want
Scar Rapi Naga RH Mermaid
SBS to eat stun, Rapi to B3, Naga B2 RH B1
Doesnt sbs nuke better than rapi rn
It’s about the same
Round 3. Wonder if one of you triggers siren burst gen 
I'll just take it all and see if they fall for the bait
I thought they fixed that one
Aldaria beats me, Asian name beats them, I take c2 back 
idk
Yeah i thought they fixed siren to break everyone else
I think I triggered it last week
Oh. I forgot what they broke and fixed lol
They only fixed BayT and SBS
At least whiffs and target skip isn’t back I guess
and now sbs is bugged again 
lol that chines guy’s name is wordplay for “big P”
Well now he's Big 2

He likes em thick, he likes em bready 

Gentlemen

but miranda
Miranda gets pve unless I wanna burst helm
Helm won't get crit benefit from miranda

Help me beat poli
Siren x poli bullied me

get some levels, investment looks fine
I never thought abt siren stunning your indom unit
I was in deficit tho so I think I win if I just raise cp a bit
Nah siren healing from biscuit is too much
looking at my options, I think it'll be best to do something like this..? is this what I should work toward for when SAnis banner drops?
- Scarlet Siren Trina THelm Jackal
- Blanc SAnis Biscuit TLaplace Rumani
- high CP filler (cindy burst)
*BSoda possible flex for teams 1/2 since mine is very built?
Is vesti likely to be meta for PvP?
verily
Probably vigor just to have the effect maxed right?
Nope not my alt! Currently I have Munch and Martini
and i would never run that team 
Soda only needs 1/1/1 for pvp right?
New season but pretty much the same comps. Swapped some units around in the Nero comp so that Moran protects P5 from SGs and put in Mari as an experimental B2 for the SG team.
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To help build teams, tr...
i will always recommend tempura
Tempering is actually my only lvl 15 cube
Did u level up tempering first or quantum first?
I feel quantum, tempering and max health are priority but the damage reduction doesnt do much before my units are invested with 4 x charge speed and quantum cubes
Quantum because Tempering didn't exist back then lol.
The moment Tempering was added, I full switched to Tempering
Quantum is a very niche but powerful cube that depends on exact calculations, just like charge speed. Whereas Tempering is universal
Making 99% burst gauge become 100% is a game changer. But making 100% become 101% does nothing
btw for Sora's debuff clear does it work on stuns even after she casts? Like usually Siren would stun Scarlet before she cast would Sora prevent the stun?
Siren stuns around 3s into the fight
Sora prevents this by removing Siren's bubble debuff, if Sora bursts earlier than that
If Sora bursts later, it's not a guarantee since Sora just removes 1 debuff and there's no guarantee the removed debuff is the stun
Does Trina also prevent the bubbles from applying?
Actually the scarlet trina team might just be full bursting before 3 seconds
But i do feel like trina delays the stun a bit, with Noah on P1 i needed at least 108% 2RL to avoid the stun but my scarlet on p1 can full burst with 105%
Okay so idk what to cheer for anymore 
I'll trust rail 
Scarlet reloading before siren stun will make her avoid it if there is cover
I changed tactics 
Honestly fatal mistake he didn't login for 12h
Was kinda sad that TPoli gave the enemy burst gen, the meme police woulda be legends with poli in the shotgun team and quiry in the tank team
i like how u almost replayed the fight for the last guy







