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I havent been playing long enough for nihi
worse case scenario
you just toss MAnchor in that slot and accept that you won't be 2RL without double Jackal proc bug
10% is a reasonable feed expectation
Better chance than nihilister
Manchor is decently built already, just needs overloads
Does arcana work there?
I thought she need to burst first 
And then burst on second rotation in time
Shes just there as a battery, I dont think shes buffing anything
Oh 
Me n kuwon were trying to figure out my 3 spa teams
No sbs, lap, rosanna, pepper
Hence why bready, rrh, and ein indom were thrown up
didnt u quit? The greatest def
well the team comp is figured out I think, it's just your invest 
be prepared to take like 4 months OLing all your batteries
and then however long it takes to fix lines
Yippee
Im surprised you took jackal from scar tho
there's no point of keeping them together atm
Scarlet isn't really scared of anything other than Rosanna tbh
but Jackal doesn't even solve that because you get dispelled
The alt yes 
that's fine, if they commit Noah to your Scar team they won't have it for your Cinderella
Drop to beginner and then undefeated
because if they go 2RL unprotected Cindy they die instantly
True
Scar nuke resolves before Cinderella always
Yeah cindy is delayed which is both helpful and harmful
ofc they could Noah your Scar and 2RL Scar your Cinderella until you get enough cs to be 2.5RL and Noise B1 to max and lv8 tempering but what can you do 
that is just invest issue
That would require a bracket that knows what they're doing tbf
I could always invest soda and make my scar team scary
Yeah, im working on bisc and rumani rn
Bisc rumani is such a nice combo btw, it locks down any single target b3
I think it may also beat ein but idk if feathers are taunted
So any decent defense boosting team with rumani will be good against ein
I have a fear of scarlet not oneshotting what we thinking?
im having problems with T2 here. Scarlet survives via indom and wipes my 2RL noah team
Have you considered putting rh on t1 and execution squad t2?
Without Trina this should not lethal
You probably don’t even one-shot Biscuit
Why i have, scar wont jacklink and no trina to enforce 2rl without helmt
Much less the tanks
Send funds
Ill let you borrow 1 pull
Executing T2 is actually never gonna work as attacking side tho 
Sgs are not killing that beefy moran

Biscuit instead of noise
Noah/biscuit/cindy/helmt/rumani
scar blanc rh t2? 
Nice copium 
That with centi and praying feed enuff?
Retro you know you want the p5 firing squad
Can't rh helm my scar 
Won't kill nero, 🚮
Scar blanc rh xenti jackal can 2.5rl
Smg + 2 ar feed surely 2rl right? 
Double feed value
Against nero moran 
If it’s 10/10/10 with tempering on all of them you don’t deal enough damage even with Blanc
Need double buffer to confirm kill
I saw blanc rapi beat nero moran once
But there was no mana
I mean this
Rapi doesn’t care about Mana
Winnable 
But not easy
Then again your Rapi is 50/100
Should be a lot easier
You want me to use rrh here instead sbs?
Yeah
That one res makes it harder for her to kill. With rapi it become a math game I think. She can only triggers her bomb skill 4/5 time to confirm kill in fb. One res make it harder
Just sbs it 
Moran should die to initial burst hit, and then die again because his Rapi is 50/100

thanks but the guy just literally changed his team before I can attack. he removed jackal from Scarlet team and made a new team with her.
Bro is using p1 moran
sbs doesn't win against stall 
what's a good DEF team for Rookie?
Mana should also be dead to splash
Could siren stun too? 
maybe with rh buff though, maybe
So it just leaves Rapu Helm Nero
You win these 
that's a wonky stall order
blanc plus buffer should usually win
can't say the same vs my stall 
Yeh his stall order makes it winnable
? Whale diff

If Moran dies instantly to Rapi nuke
i meant core diff?
And this is a given win right?
Blanc + rh buffer too eh?
hi guys, it's been a long time since I changed my def teams and I got some new things so maybe there's an optimization to what I have
only max is helm 

and some more chars
yes, granted the sbs blanc rh cp was poopy
I see, I’m going to cope that their blanc burst was low or something 
should be
Mine only at lv7 
good enough 
For science
This is completely held together by hopes and dreams ig
Modnerdia
SEND IT!!!!
2LB rh on alt, more than me 
Ace says yes now I must do it 
LOL
My global still lb0
send ittttt
wait this guy has sr15 on everything, he's serious
is rrh not linked 
328 sync witha finished stall omg that SP
I feel his stall weak tho
yet he chooses a weird order for stall 
show him whose boss!
ez

100/50 rrh payed off 
P5 nero usually just tanks defending sgs, on def just tanks srs 
I feel like if you use mana you shouldn't worry about srs too much
Maybe I'm underestimating sr
Nero got clapped
your bisc is so squishy 
No ol yet 
Helm ele stronk?

Helm clapped her though 
84 ele, 3 ele lines
hmm lost...

Scar not wipe 
looks like bisc immune
yeah and shes already invested enough in the skills
You burst before 2 rl
crazy jackal bug too
I love pvp bugs 
Shiftup too
List of un bugged things in pvp :
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Hime reveals true self
f2p
Strong
Never invest in Helm attack lines 
Today I got blue charge speed
On crown 
need atk for pvp but atk bricks you any time you want to run a team with miranda and helm together in sr
I have 2 atk and 0 plans of getting more
here ur solution, devs listened
40 high roll cs 
The worst part is majority of people will get nothing from those 40 rocks
I want rock 
We
Wasted 
It was my chime fund 
Well, third anni fund
corn lacking
Basic goal should be something like 150 rocks by third anni
Guess I'll only do Kraken for 3 months
Help
when does Siren's stun go off? is it somewhere between 2RL and 2.5RL?
2.578 or somewhere around that
2.57894736842105263157894736842105
Actually yea that's more correct
Factoring in the 0.41 second delay between auto burst
196/76 no? 
Where 196 tho
frame
Siren stun 3.33s
2rl 2.6s
2nd RL+ 1.27s
(3.33-2.6)/1.27 = 2.574
Can use frame calc if need to be more accurate since this game’s timeline happens in 30 fps instead of seconds
in pvp
I haven't checked my CA bracket
Trying out a 2.5rl wierd defense 
Bruh
What do when the humble 1.5 rl scar
Accept death
Like how you thought of that but not simply siren 
Chat how do I win
Siren wouldnt do anything here
Moran should steal taunt before Noah stun
Would be very cool when siren stuns moran causing rh burst so no Dr and a 2rl scar just work 
Noah?
moran/noah?
If youre splitting siren attention isnt there a chance siren cant stun either?
i don't know if attract is still bugged in DEF, but noah should take the aggro if she hit siren
@fathom rock 
My pvp is so cooked right now
Our pvp
New bracket has more whales
to 30-6 you go
I got grouped with a 3 time ca winner and a new whale 
Ya my bracket annoying, no more peaceful top 3
I need to increase the cp of my scar team
which overloads are more cp weighted again?
I believe element most cp
Think ya need elem atk, higher rolls
ele, attack, CS, I think.
I thought defense was top
Even just getting all 3 roll will help
I have no idea honestly, dont remember
My spa got a new smarter whale so I got kicked out of top 3
One whale has too much cp for me to attack, and the other has crap pvp teams but just tries to out cp
They added whales on our server too
The one with crap teams is who I'm fighting with
My top 3 all have 1 team i can attack and then 2 teams that cp gap my campaign team
just fix your lines, atk/ele for scarlet +crit rate or dmg and cs+2 lines for each RL
i like DEF
Ya in mine ive seen these ppl in previous rotation, it added back the guy whos 100lvls above everyone else
From top raid teams too💀
My normal scar team is scar trina centi rosanna jackal
its being weighed down by like 150k cp
rosanna is 4 atk (+4crit rate+2ele...ammo)
I forgot trina exists(thats on me, i barely touch sp arena since i was rank 2)
This CA is pretty rough forme
DEF also work on rosanna
ex finalist and ex 32 in my group
I had to fix my trina for when she is on a blanc team, she was stealing the buff
vigor for HP or the link?
dnot u wish u were this guy
scarlet/blanc/trina?
actually she was stealing the buff in scar blanc trina centi jackal so I guess she was linked
I just watched it back
I had to run that team because the team was 135 and the team it was fighting was 180 something
Lemme in
blanc was needed
And it almost killed that team, like 1 more second and I would have won
We still thinking vesti is going to break pvp?
I saw some people saying if she works like how think she works then she will kill scar before she can even burst, same with a lot of other teams
yes and no, there are more things than high raw dmg
to kill scarlet before burst depends on the team, i know that she can't skill my scarlet team, but for normal CA 2RL teams probably
in that case the blanc/rapu will return
I burned so many rocks on my scar yesterday, she rolled a black ammo line on line 1
5 day until we find out
for vesti... explosion range 2 or 3 hits, the dmg should be really high still with 2 targets
the important thing is how cs affect her first shot
the normal comp should be blanc/vesti but the b1 and speed will be a problem for her
now... will you drop scarlet/jackal to use jackal with her or keep that team with trina only
i like stall teams and i will try to use her instead of cindy in a noah team
I have gone through so many defense iterations idk wtf to even do anymore lol
The noise noah team was tripple sg 2.5 and it worked for 1 defense against the whale
double taunt-2rl rosanna- emi+SG?
well, with helm is aDR team instead of double taunt
I'm doing weird things because the whale does not have built pvp and just tries to out cp with pve
yeah the scar team is probably whats not working well enough, I dont think I can run rosanna against him
I think I need to do the scar blanc trina centi jackal
probably siren is better than rosanna
I can try it
if siren get the link, siren p1 should be fine
yeah shes linked
I put her p1 because tempering and SR 15 on her
trina S1 should reduce the dmg on the link if scarlet is p1
true
but they can just use siren and stun your scarlet before b3
Problem is scar was dying before she could burst against some of his teams
if he have the cp advantage no problem for his siren to tank scarlet S2
i use tempering scarlet
I got level 10 tempering, I'll try it
you will have to check elements for attacks, in deficit rh/centi/laplace/jackal can kill your scarlet if they have ele dmg
same for p2 trina or biscuit
but not many people build ele dmg on supports/defenders
Poli or Bay treasure for pvp?
Both are mid
Doing some math, Rapunzel vs Blanc ReiT
50% ELE, so unless Crit, she gonna survived Nuke
so need 4 ele 4 atk 2 max ammo
rapu alone or moran/nero?
bayT is easier to use than normal bay, but you still need dupes for her teams, poli is a niche unit that can be good as p5 unit or just p1 for 2 b2 SG teams
SG vs SG
unless you use her with 4DEF lines+ tempering and pray another SG unit die fast against scarlet teams
top/left=atk?
Idk, still league
How come no p5 poli?
and treasure poli, but still fine since he only have 1 b2
no rosanna so... atk/def diff
They have anis and weak pepper
I'm afraid police badge end before burst so i placed her in p4
should be fine, your hyper carry is in p5 and you have time to reach b1
but... you will hit viper and sdoro is p1...
a win
5-4 SG, low cp pepper, b2 is in p4
Viper won't be targeted if i'm defender
now in atk you will kill sdoro fast
They will go for anis

your team in atk will kill sdoro first, in def low cp anis in p4
fighting toiky already 
Oh her concealment is after fb
mb
Is he super strong?
idk 
I might lose again in league 
he's here
ye thats him 
i think this works but i need a second opinion before i go in and find out
i sometimes see him too
But didn't realize we're in the same CA group
should be fine
many people are in the same league but not all can play CA
That's me
Iirc i only passed 2times
should be fine
poli 
is this a new type of shotgun team? no rosanna?
Is bad idea
I have Poli
i mean i guess its still 3 RL but no tanks... Poli should be P1 also
3 more days until my poli gets her maxed favorite item

ah ah ah
poliT's shield is like cindy's decoy
aka more burst gen to the other team if p1
which sucks bc she's supposed to be a tank so 
Can I P2 at least? 
still gonna give team more burst gen just not as bad as p1 
meanwhile me with p5 poliT
like how much burst gen?
as bad as p1 cindy decoy burst gen
which if you know, is bad 
you def don't want to give other team more burst gen for a sg team
so like it will make a 3RL go to 2.5RL?
wheres rail to send the 1rl jackal clip bc of p1 cindy 
Oh, good idea

that reminds me did anyone try tove in pvp now that she's no longer rng

Maybe too slow it takes 3 seconds to full stack 
that kinda sucks... i might replace Poli with Anne next month
that's what keripo did when he found out 
yeah before he had Poli on P1 for 4 seasons, it was so dope
According to this it's 2.5rl
I will believe in p5 poli until the time comes to replace her 

then doesn't you P1 get nuked?
I run rosa so it's in my favor
my p1 is my sacc anyway
poliT in p1 would be intended obvs, but with her shield = more burst gen for other team + no longer able to sacc, I guess it's not too bad
at least I'll have a lean in sg matchups
I had a mirror sg matchup last season with poli on p1 but I was attacker...

which meant my opponent's team nuked my p5 and i was stuck on his poli...
unfortunate 
would've been vice versa for you in p5 
I wanna see myself with p5 poliT vs someone's p1 poliT 
is treasured poli worth it in pvp?
honestly, not really. she's not bad persay just midt
you think my poli can win against the tanks?
the only reason I did it was bc my old b2 was naga
If your opponent's sg team is a defender, wouldn't that break your poli police badge immediately?
And her burst needs that police badge right?
so to me poliT was an upgrade vs her
so treasured bay and poli aren't that great this season 
that's a weird stall 
good to know so now I'm not at a disadvantange 
Basically 
thats the meta tank team now
Ichi ni san gomenasai

they're improvements on their base but not meta
but can my shotgun team nuke Nero before B1?
poli had a near 100% shield at max level (or 80%ish at lv7). from my testing her shield never brought her close to death. once she bursts she gets 5 secs indom
maybe if you have good ele and atk on viper and poli
actuallly if im defender then i win easy
yeah if you're defender it's a win
rosanna at p5 is rough
if you're attacking
No, i mean if her shield breaks before her burst, she wouldn't get indom
Time to see who’s sg are just better. Or who’s rosa snipe has more worth. Or who more invested 
rosa has conceal so helm won't hit her. drake is rip though

totally forgot she goes incognito there
Or is the police badge still intact even after her shield break?
what SP DEF would be the strongest with my current roster. The one I used to run until now was:
Scar/Siren/Trina/RH/Rumani
Noah/Centi/Cindi/Noise/Jackal
Moran/Bae/T.Helm/Em/Maiden
I think the Moran/Bae compo is still weak because I am missing the treasure for Bae
i maxed my drake's Body Armor she should be fine
I don't have much testing outside my own but my lv7 burst never broke her shield
so I find it unlikely
it's helm with ele dmg, drake is gone 
think you can incorporate biscuit somewhere?
or she should be assuming helm is built
definitely
I like using Moran Biscuit Sanis combo
it works pretty well since moran is invulnerable and S anis heals with biscuit's burst
I mean it depends tho, are you up against guys who likes using nukes?
i use that team too but in CA that team has always encountered aoe nukes....
we love gambling in CA
I sensed someone below atking in spA
it was me again
take a break for 3 month
what if they're friendly whales

Maybe just stand perfectly still they wont notice u and eat each other 
one can only wish
ah 
My spa is so boring
get your #1 back 
Im good

The aldaria dude and foreign name dude are stacked
I've been fighting a constant war for months now I could use a peaceful SPA like that
I can beat them both but I only have two attempts and if they aren't bothering me in second I'm fine
They can fight amongst themselves
heathens
I'm just watching them have a blood bath as I sip a margarita
Hello Trash Doves!
hello bobby
@swift mango my emi can't hold poli
Nah you’re exaggerating. It wasn’t too ba-
Why does poli have so much shield
Where did half of her hp go???
That's 100% shield
Poli looks like more of a wall than nero
So her hp show half of it
p5 poliT 
You know if you put Emi P1 she's guaranteed Indom 
Even my alice that has ele advantage dies to siren&cindy normal atk before blanc burst
THa'ts why you want 25% Emi 
No, it's from normal atk
His team is like a tyrant boss in pve
His atk can OTK my nikke
So that's from sbs
I'd swap T2 and T3
Hmm ok I'll try so I swap my scarlet and SBS teams
No, I mean Blanc v Cindy, Scarlet v whoever
so close
Though that might work
Nice 3 wins that works 🙂
That Cindy with XMaiden is a waste lol
He could've reach 2RL if he put clip instead
The person broke my defense though I need to change my def setup
And this is yesterday's @swift mango idea
Using this defense currently but it was broken
So you need to kill them before Poli burst 
Consider using stunner instead of Rosa, and Cindy definitely could be 2RL instead, or you can also use stall comp
How about this? Or I should use helm as one of the burster in the teams
That 2RL Scarlet lose against 2RL Cindy Noah
Stunner is just the soda right? Or I use siren?
You can make Scarlet 2RL by Feeds, and relocate Clip RL for another comp
Soda BiS imo, though Siren also useful, just more limited
I didn't make soda yet tho :/
Siren then
Swap siren and centi?
You don't have any 18% Clip RL?
Clip RL the only one not used is sr anis
Centi rumani jackal anis these 4 are there more clip RL?
Ok I'll try that then
Keep in mind Centi in picture has 18% CS
Though it should work just same without that, as 3RL
to be precise i need to kill that team before noise burst
Siren instead of Miranda
I want to try this tomorrow 
Hmm my team 3 is quite low CP since rapu and anis not invested
My atk team is becoming pve team
The other 2 had 60k CP team 3 50k
New account?
Oh I means 600k vs 500k missing a zero
Siren better tho, she'll stun Noise, prevent bonus max HP and let you clear the smoll fries
Rouge needs to burst multiple times for optimal buffs
If you running 3RL, you can replace Anis with another RL + Quantum or another Clip SG instead
Anis needed for 2.5RL
Ok I think 3RL then
But it will further lower my stat cause cp
Can I use redhood in place of rapu? Instead of revival of SBS we will burst with redhood if SBS goes down
I won't recommend RH B3 in PvP as she easily countered with Biscuit and she can die while bursting because Indom might not reached her
Prev I told you to use RL + Quantum or Clip SG, say if you use something like BSoda with AoE burst, she'll have decent nuke with Blanc and RH
As long as you above deficits, and what kind of people have Miranda CP > Siren CP tho
RM , have yo ever thought to fight Weij instead keeping C4?
Hmm if I use bsoda for T3
My quantum cube is lvl 5 so I didn't put the cube in the calculator
Put Qua for Jackal, Trina, and Centi for in game
It shouldn't be too different, still 3RL for T3
Thanks so much let's hope it doesn't break
C6 miranda
I thought you knew that i was fighting 23% deficit
You can see they don't have dolls

me
It's fine, i'm sure you win
In the previous ca i lost to cp lower than you
Should've go for C7 Cindy back then
I'll be saving for whoever worth
@fathom rock chinese gentledude attacked you!

Actually my scarlet should put in P1 to do reflect dmg right? I rolled for 30 ammo so she would dodge siren stun
Can someone help me with 3 pvp teams? I have 6 synchro slots left as well
Yes we got a hit haha
Thats a perfectly ok thing to do
What cube are people running on Cindy
highest CP if you need to CP pad for SPA, vigor if you don't
is the RL thingy the lower it is the better? 
How's the cp of this vs t1 and t3
just a sec
like this?
I'm having a hard time 3 teams i am confident to recommend since there's alot of missing pieces. I'll try to recommend 1... Summer Dorothy Noir Naga Tove Drake. Notable missing nikkes: Scarlet, Cinderella, Noise, Helm, Rumani, Anne Fairy, Soda Bunny. Good arena nikkes you have right now: red hood, trina, drake, biscuit, noah, noir, laplace, rosanna(the original one not summer), centi, jackal
Yeah thats good
just whatever works man Im low sync anyways
still confused ik like 2RL and 3RL is the good spot
but the percentage im confuse what about that, is lower the % the better in there too?
@gritty ridgehmm I did win, however I'm not sure if noise death was accounted for in t3?
thanks anyways
Noise dying is alright, stunning blanc to prevent indom was the main idea anyway
That scar soda is always gonna be a problem until you get rosanna tho
normal rosanna?
Yes
I do have her, how much investment she needs? she is just unsynched and uncared for
30% atk i believe, I dont remember skill invest
She assassinates attackers and severs jackal link
Very effective against scarlet
noted thanks

I don't know if greedy, I'm very sorry but can I ask for help with this too?
Funnily enough, you can use the blanc team against t3 and the cindy team against t1
My opponent has unli gems
yeah thats the teams I was using against him before
its just his reshuffle confused me a bit, he was using same team for looooong time until today
May I ask why rrh indom is your default?
it destroys biscuit
And i meant the teams I built, you need siren to stun Noah there
it took several attempts and nothing was working
multiple people was attempting to solve his defence until rrh was aded it wasn't working
Try these two again against t3 and t1
You should stun Noah slowing them down so you can Noah burst and wipe with cindy
Sbs will get mega feed from team 3, the cindy team is iffy unless you have any cs
noah and noise do have some cs
15%?
just give me a few so I can search for last discussion about them in this chat
All good
13% on noah 10% on noise
Their t1 is 2.5 rl max tho so it should be alright
and noah has adjutant sooo 15%?
Against the cinderella squad: blanc, emilia, red hood, biscuit, jackal. Against the noah squad: noise, noah, centi, siren, cinderella. Against the scarlet squad: viper soda bunny, anne fairy, rosanna, noir
no emilia, no xanne (server without these), rosanna not synched, viper no toy
Swap noise for rumani and send it
2.5rl so youre safe
like this?
I’ve been seeing Sbs with Noah and biscuit a lot. Is Sbs more affective than S anis?
Yippee
thank youuu ❤️
I was worried when I saw you posted video
that was actually my intent, kinda reward (as if you were in spA), but kinda cliffhanger because I left no comment
Its basically attacking 2 units at once vs whole team
I prefer sbs with blanc tho
Sanis also benefits from Noah burst
My sbs is getting swole, wonder if I should use her with blanc
Third strongest nikke rn
Ah ok
from random one 

i get happier when i get a blue doll rather than purple, cuz i can combine them for kits
what is bro on?
Racista
Theyre on something
bay must use her burst skil to share dmg or just be in a team who bursted with another b2 is enough?
She has to burst
They seem to have a decent understanding of the game, they just dont have all the mechanics down
no u
... you call that decent understanding of the game?
man's surprised jackal replacing siren outspeeds him, and thinks sync might have to do with it too?
They understand that charge speed is important, and that burst speed is the most important factor
Which is more than you can say for alot of players
They just need a little technical guidance

then thinks trina buffs all? then thinks cindy has excess hp, then thinks raven ult hits harder than scar, then thinks siren generates good burst, and basically wants to somehow kill cinderella pre-burst
invite him here
i would think 2 mgs into scar would give opp more burst than that 😄
half of their errors are thinking pvp works basically the same as pve
rookie mistake
It is, but they're somewhat on the right path
they're on a path for sure, the wrong one though
there's coherence in his logic, except the logic is wrong
Like yonexxi said, invite him here we can teach him to become great player
i have a guy that changes defense every time i attack him for the first time and i would be annoyed if his 1st defense wasnt the strrongest and now he descends into weird ideas 😄
yeah like super slow soda above
that wont even burst
is just there for who knows what
i guess anti siren noise measure but ehhh
Killing Cindy pre burst sounds doable if she wasn't Cindy 
he's just ahead of his time, saw the vesti angle 
actually... I think vesti true dmg hits her decoy
yeah it should, so wouldn't even work
wait no.... it should go through... since lapt goes through
I'm looking at the "Standard SPA Defence Teams" pin, unsure how to approach a good second team
my first team would be some strong Scarlet team, but I don't have Emilia, Noah, xMaiden, sAnis, or SBS
so uh, I see exactly one Cindy team available to me: Rumani Biscuit Cindy ClipSG ClipSG
are there any other decent Cindy-Biscuit teams available?
well, sAnis rerun is very soon
so maybe I chill for now
is everyone just hardcore or something? If i dont have my notebook i fail my attacks
they never failed attack like wtf
all for that 300 gems 
They can't kill blanc so they stuck shooting her for 10 seconds
i think i need to open cd cases
you ain't ever getting past that p1/p5 defender biscuit with a whole shotgun team 
@smoky snow
you know the yuno guy, we need to form an alliance
ping me if you see this for reply
thx
Who ask u hoard 8k boxes or smthing 
Wait a minute, he isn't bursting with SBS, he is bursting with Cindy. Ofc it won't work. 
Ofc she can't. 
If you wanted, send me your Blablalink with Nikke available to view by union member at least. And your opponent team, here or Private. I would see to it if you have the team to win or not.
2rl Cindy could wipe it. 4rl is too slow. And there Cindy burst right after you would make you lose the normal attack after.
Why do you have Miranda in everything though? Is her CP that high compared to other units?
Anyway, it's my bad for thinking that they burst with SBS.
40% deficit 
Whale
this page won't let me see effect of noise taunt and my rls attacking 3 guys, but what is the difference? like extra 50% burst gen for 2 of them?
what is htis
weirdo i attack change teams all the time and this is his new invention
i play rapi cause he has low cp
or you ask about what page is this?
it is in pinned pageshttps://nikke.work/
it is quite is easy if you get used to it
and it takes into consideration jackal link
You still need the basic PvP understanding to use that properly
@crystal flicker answer this please
Extra 1.25x gen for RL iirc
i would think extra 50% cause you hit 50% more targets but i guess inderect targets are not counted like direct target or something
Nikke Deck still better for beginners 
fk off
yeahh i won't disagree there, just deck doesn't include jackal link, at least i think it doesn't
the most anti begginer thing is that by default it doesn't show all nikkes until you click eye button 😄
Maybe it's 1.5, but usually the first salvo wont hit Noah because she needs hit to taunt
yeah yeah i know
but 50% would be still huge
even 25% would be
it would be nice if i could put in quantum some bigger value that would simulate this
i can edit that input but it just doesn't care for it
it's probably too complicated to sim
14.2 * 1.5 * 2 = 52.6 / 1RL
52.6 + 28.4 = 81% / 2RL
dunno i would think just check for noise and if noise isn't p1, p5 you get some extra burst on 2nd shot and onwards
if rl p1 || p2
but then you add two taunters, which one taunts? lol
yeahh then it becomes more complicated 😄 but right now it caunts if almost my whole team would hit scarlet and that is not the case cause of noise 😄
ahhh guy changes teams every time and check every hour xD i wonder if i will make him go sleep late today xD
for SPA? I move my teams if I lose, makes the person who beats me waste time also moving teams lol
and means they can't just auto battle again
I hit back, damn he is knowing when to strike me 
Thank you for keeping an eye 
I want some change but I need help. I don't have Scarlet, Biscuit, Noise.
Retro I made it into 30 🙂
after a bunch of annoying chapters 29 wasn't too bad and the boss was stupidly easy
I will probably not get far into this at this sync the volleyballs will murder me
381 maybe I can push some
but you mean like move t1 t2 t3? my guy loses and builds new teams which are worse and worse i think 😄 but different
yeah I'll move t1 to another spot etc
I'm facing a whale atm who is ahead on power by sync, so I figure they like to spend money to save time, I'm costing them time
see this scar soda team that is slow as hell
I actually don't change my def, it can always be beaten, and if I did try (and succeed) they'd just start copying me
also you take soda for her stun she's doing nothing at p4 lol
i guess she will do something if siren stuns noise but like still i would put something else there 😄
but for siren to stun noise your siren would need to be at p1 or p2
site name?
yeah with jackal not that surprising
ty
Rumani and Rapunzel?
ReiT?
I have them
currently locked in the eternal struggle but the guy is offline for long stretches so wonder what the point is
took him 12h to hit me back overnight
so I get 1 for at least 50% of the time if not more atm without gemming
I did that sometimes just to test CA comp
There is ReiT but Laplace no treasure
I don't think they're doing that, think he genuinely wants top spot lol
when he's 401 (3 levels away) will be harder to fight back a little but I think not impossible
will be 2 cp jumps away from me but I've got similar cp atm
Moran - Trina - Rosanna - Helm - Jackal
Anchor Maid - Siren or Something Else - Cindirella - Anis - XMaiden
fighting between top 1 and top 2 xD i would not push myself either for this 😄
yeah I mean up to them tbh but it's not really achieving much atm
I can't stop them, but atm they can't stop me either
i have a guy that spends gems just to be top1 all the time 
Stall require CS on at least HelmT
no one ever bothers to attack him much because of it, even if we can beat his ass
ReiT Blanc is pretty much can Nuke a lot of stuff, unless proper stall
I'd just hit them before reset if i had extra tries left, make them gem some more 😄
yeahhh if i was easily in top 3 i would do that but i am top 4 who has 1% to maybe get top 3 😄
He just bored then lol
Thanks man
curious to see what the CP is like after their 401 jump anyway as I will have about 10 levels to go in the time they need only 3
if it's too much I can just fight back again after 381
There's a whale in my bracket with 406, his CP is 2.2M / 3 teams
What's the meaning of CS
I achieved my main goal here for now anyway, 87 cd/hour and chapter 30 hard started. I have enough cd to get 371 but after that it's all on the daily income
Charge speed OL lines
yeah this guy is a whale but also I think not fully invested as much as I have into the units/dolls, which is the only reason I can even fight them now lol
How you have that much CP for stall tho
full sr-15 and full OL and such
Bad lines c7
yes I figure they have under-invested in OL and lines
and use whale status to win before now
You have 12/12 HelmT and La+?
not quite tbh, mine could be improved
Helm I need one more CS roll at least
rocks are still my biggest issue, I can get 20 rocks and roll stuff and it all goes to nothing
I sacc a lot of stuff to get all CS 18 lol
yeah I spent like 10 rocks just reset attribute on someone the other day
trying to get CS line nearer 5%
still failed lol
rocks and rng is the most frustrating thing
It's easier to get new CS line instead of reset attribute
Sandwich
sure the chance is lower but the line is already there, it can't be easier 😄
reset attributes is basically the line rolls 100% of the time
re-roll and it's got only a chance to even show up, nowhere near 100%
not generally rolling for like black line CS but I want something close to 5% per roll/item
PvP junkie and his insane PvP
Cube and black dolls

Idk opponent's blablalink thought 
Yes, she is higher cp than buffer like rh or liter
I mean his other teams CP... Or what you already used on another team. Oh well.
The other team i used is normal scar jack

100% lower than what you have 
Need to know the 5 nikke you used...
You should probably win with Cindy+Alice+Blanc+Rossanna+HelmT/Emi
But are they available?
This opponent other team
No rosanna
got a new guy spending gems repeatedly against me in rookie and sp. guys hitting me within 10 minutes of me hitting him in sp
for like the last 4 fights
either hes just refreshing sp arena all the time no life or hes botting? can you even do that in this game
nothing pleases me more than getting whales mad and continuing to spend gems in pvp lol
Blanc trina brick. Watch helm get indom 
Sometimes I seen trina get indom
Yeah, my opponent is just putting his team's highest cp
I always wondering about this yea. back then when I camped, I left the app open on background, lock it so I cant swipe to close it (android), and I can simply check the spa by opening it real quick and refresh, but most of the time it wont be that fast like 15 to 30 mins 
if Im lucky I hit back fast, but yea around July 2024 I think? you no longer can camp the spa screen for 24 hours, sometimes even less, they give you an error pop up
You spill my tech
I can still make my app open for 2days as long as i don't open another game
it's how I check if it I want to do so as well, or just general stuff, game stays open in the bg on my phone pretty well
If I tap pvp arena 51 times then museum once which tab does it open
wait you dont get this error?
#questions message

Sometime i get that
I couldnt make it to more than a day after that July update, I stop doing it 
mine is worse, I keep getting 2 red out of three outcome error for months 

I think you need to do something else other than clicking that refresh button
pvp chefs I need help
those are my teams
I have everyone relevant except Xanne, maybe Tbay or Tpoli too
please help me make new ones, ty

@umbral belfry @wet crystal c2 is mine it seems
Told you. We chilling. That C2 is secure 
have yet to see if mcgooner will attack me though. maybe the reason they're so strong in campaign is because they have full pve invest (so do i, but whatever)
and since hime left my rookie last week as well, i guess im r1 in rookie now too
i still want noah though...
Soon...
pilgrim selector anniv gift
lemme in but also pog
are you c1 in your new bracket
How's current bracket?

holy you were running some weird teams
def*
all you cremepie folks are top of your pvp brackets
They put something in those pies
money
ye those are weird even for defense

either way at your synchro you gonna need to get creative and you'll need CS%
Almost finished my Rosanna base
any unit with 11-17% CS?
not that I recall of

are you guaranteed for a win when your cp is higher than the enemy (5-20k) or does comp still matter
refer to these advanced teams, start building your CS% toward them, it's the direct upgrade you can aim for
#pvp-arena message
I know the nikkedb uses 17% when you click that cs button, but how much difference does an 11% give?
you can find out with this
https://nikke.work/
it's just extra frames, mostly to avoid siren or bursting slightly before opponent
keep in mind cp is relative percentage/ratio, so without context 5-20k means nothing
15,4% is when penalty starts to hit, anything further down like 18-24% deficit might still be doable, afterward you're likely dead
keep in mind a linked scarlet on 20% deficit if without high core or temperance is dead within 2.5RL
i should also adopt temperance on scarlet...
Union raid rewards should be next week right?
Today
If not gonna get angy

If that time difference actually means tomorrow

tomorrow i believe, co-op rewards were today
Its almost 10 am here
i need resilience 11 to maybe have enough cp to beat 23-21 hard mode 
Tempura 7 then the rest on resilience/bastion
Time to login and confirm my league elimination
.... oh nvm
apologies @nimble swan I won it seems?
unexpected tbh I had written myself out of this one yesterday
what seemed to swing it was my indom in team 1 actually working
haha nice, congrats!
I'm checking replays cuz i thought i would win against your t1 and lose against Corleone t1 but it happened to be the opposite
@wet crystal its me and you 
when I said see each other in ca I didn't expect so soon
which bracket numbers
this game hates me
1 and 2
what the
what makes you two so special that you get 1 and 2 
Gl my former sp c1
@shell hazel I should win the next one too, just checked
no worries unlucky, revenge for last time 🙂
oof rough for ent
Congrats

After 2 prelim elims, my wuwa traveling has made shift up jelly
pie on pie violence 
4sh made it, ash didnt (because i ran out of time and forgot to set my CA team)

ash is eating dirt pve comp wise so im thinking of transitioning that account to full pvp
problem is, i dont have cindy so that's a big blow
Yeah exactly
I checked and you won r1 because your team was slower
Sucks attacking against nero stall (this was against Corleone)
I noticed that my noise needs to be beefier
yeah speed tuning indom is very hit and miss
I'd lose to 4RL indom SBS for example, it's a risk
Oh! Won the league again.. but as soon as i entered the ladder, i tend to lost the 1st fight 
@acoustic light what is up with your nero, that dmg holy... and the final round i had 1 second more of invul
yeah true
i beat corleone SG though, lost to 2 - 3
@wet crystal you should've put bisc in p5 
I wanted to change it up, she's always either with sbs or cindy
now you'll have no res
send vid?
no I meant with your stall team
was all very close I could easily have lose 3-2 to you then we'd have a 3 way tie break decidey thing
oh let me see my matches with corleone a sec lmao I didn't even see those yet
Oh I see that
but I never fought against this stall var so this will be new for me too
even now I can get testing in 
im gonna need them to stop releasing units so i can start building pvp again
im like 20 units away from working on bay nero moran rosanna
well there was some excitement at least, and now you can go whale hunting 

also our sgs diving head first into each other jackals 
I wanted to put bay in my sg team since she's treasured, but i wanted to try Dorothy now that she's got invests
rng arena
if only you moved your sg team a bit to the right 
bc I need sg def tests
i'll upload all my matches soon taarn
Did he have full decoy? If you 0.5 rl faster I think they have full decoy 
just playing stellaris atm
but if you win t1(misindom) and t3 you will likely win and I'm fine with that
lock in folian
It was 5 mins before the team locking that I ran a number randomizer for 1-5, made final reordering
I think I might be quicker (my noah/centi has CS)
Oh
just mention me if you have the uploads
will do, if you have the chance please upload the videos from your perspective as well if you can somewhere?
I'd be interested if our match replays are 100% the same 
Congrats to all who made it past qualifiers!
also can see your corleone ones then as well - I upload mine to youtube and set to unpublished
awesome thanks, I'll ping you in an hour or two 🙂
alright!




