pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

guy has whale units why are we running pascal? 😄

unless they simply lack core pvp units?

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

I knew it

[gritty ridge]

He has good gen

[grand plaza]

[shell hazel]

no need to run if they have whale units (and probably more than I have)

burst gen > all isn't necessarily true when you're that sync and lots of people have cores

that only really works to send bs units like pascal in the earlier brackets

[gritty ridge]

👉👈

[tropic summit]

RH just there to cheer?

[limber patrol]

LMAO I PINGED THE WRONG GUY

[keen vapor]

Yes

[gritty ridge]

I forgot 2rl b1 is siren safe

[limber patrol]

why are you both called enriched

[shell hazel]

we're all enriched together

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/dumping-trash-daniel-labelle-frustrated-garbage-trash-gif-27186872

[gritty ridge]

[shell hazel]

bigboi they have emi for crying out loud

emi doko? 😄

[limber patrol]

why r nikke?

[keen vapor]

Protests

They got us mold QOLs ig

[shell hazel]

we're using pinne and pascal but they have like core max a bunch of shit 😄

[tropic summit]

he's still searching for the sugar

[quartz rover]

https://tenor.com/view/dinner-whats-for-gif-14360593

He cooked too hard

[gritty ridge]

I missed emi????

Im dumb

[shell hazel]

SR anis is about the only acceptable low rarity unit to run

these units right? #pvp-arena message

[quartz rover]

No n102?

[shell hazel]

like if you're missing stuff you run pascal, neon etc, they work fine, but if you got everyone no need to I think

SR anis is just core because her burst gen is so good and she can sit safe if unbuilt

[gritty ridge]

I only had pinne there cuz viper p3

[shell hazel]

why are we using viper on scar team? feed sir

also kill pascal

[tropic summit]

hippo is merciless

[gritty ridge]

But I like him

[shell hazel]

you want them to lose? 😄

[gritty ridge]

I had viper there for her big ol atk buff on enter

[quartz rover]

You like Pascal but dont follow his wishes?

[shell hazel]

Pascal .. gomen

[quartz rover]

Bigboi likes Pedro pascal and his obsession with married women

[tropic summit]

he touches women when he gets anxious too?

[gritty ridge]

Im blanking on t5

[tropic summit]

remember what i told you

4 good teams 1 fodder is better than 5 average teams

[gritty ridge]

Well yeah t5 is just blatantly worse than the other 4 here

Univested nero moran

Rapu doesn't feel right to use with emi tho...

I dont feel like shes doing anything

[tropic summit]

allowing her to revive since you're using her in p1?

[umbral belfry]

ban this guy

[gritty ridge]

Yeah but is she even gonna die?

[tropic summit]

mf it's 3RL

[gritty ridge]

Im assuming no cs

[tropic summit]

you think emilia is made of diamonds or something

[gritty ridge]

If they have 25% cs on emi its 2rl

[eager mountain]

im made of silver

[gritty ridge]

I think rose team is 2rl? I kinda want to move drake to p1 so she dies instead of maiden

Tho i think x.anne revives

Yeah she does

So it'll sac maiden, then res maiden

[eager mountain]

and yes emi isnt gonna live shes attacker and water elem

2.5rl wont do

[tropic summit]

soon you'll be gold

[eager mountain]

even 2.5rl p1 blanc is barely safe

[eager mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/giorno-gold-experience-requiem-anime-jojos-bizarre-adventure-gif-17484608

certainly ill be gold forever

[gritty ridge]

Ok so rapu will res her and she'll indom

[eager mountain]

since silver lasted quite a while

[gritty ridge]

I think i did alright other than t5

Hippo stopped getting upset but I also may have just killed him

[eager mountain]

didnt u say ur 4 months in to the game

[shell hazel]

I'm dead

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

Hippo do you have any suggestions for last member of t5 or just scrap whole team

[shell hazel]

you can run their xanne as the b2 on sg comp but she doesn't look very built to me

[gritty ridge]

Its mainly to res maiden so she can burst

[eager mountain]

so brought an acc with emi and yet acc lv not bricked...

[shell hazel]

team 5 is going to be cope almost no matter what you run

[gritty ridge]

Actually, should I swap maiden with s.anis?

[shell hazel]

no you need burst gen on sg team

you can run s.anis in the team 5 cope

s.anis is not clip SG gen

[eager mountain]

sanis is a minus in sg team

[gritty ridge]

Yeah quantum cube on x.anne is just barely enough to get 2rl with sac

[eager mountain]

5 shots reload, non clip gen, and no instant burst dmg

[gritty ridge]

Does she heal?

[eager mountain]

dps disguised as support

[gritty ridge]

Final dish, chef is it passable?

[eager mountain]

[shell hazel]

I'd just consider running more clips on team 5 their nero/moran not built

[gritty ridge]

I was looking for bay cope stall but I didnt even see bay

[shell hazel]

far down the list and bay also nees like 2RL lol

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

Ill keep that one just for me

[shell hazel]

considering how weak their emi may be, it may be better to indom someone more built

emi can always just work as a battery

[eager mountain]

got emi but not bis?

[gritty ridge]

So go back to sbs indom?

[shell hazel]

yeah I think so

biscuit lock with blanc

[gritty ridge]

Blanc p1 is siren weak tho no?

[shell hazel]

sure but SBS probably dies p1

[gritty ridge]

Thats why I have rapu

[shell hazel]

remember siren only has 1/5 chance to show up

[eager mountain]

ur t1 is weak to sg anyways

[shell hazel]

go anti-siren if you can but I think someone you just gotta roll the dice on siren even appearing

[gritty ridge]

Why you sus me

[eager mountain]

u got bis but didnt bother to use...

[keen vapor]

[eager mountain]

the original t1 is better anyways,
if u want a quick answer just bis nero and cope that team lives til 5rl against a rh sbs b3

and lose to almost everything else still

[gritty ridge]

Actually, no bisc

[umbral belfry]

tastes a little burnt and crunchy

[gritty ridge]

I just checked box twice

[eager mountain]

how tf u got emi but not bis

[gritty ridge]

Wym u, this ain't my box

[shell hazel]

I'd run this for cindy comp btw

rumani as backup b1 to dead noise

[eager mountain]

whos box is it then

[raven cairn]

i have biscuit

[gritty ridge]

I didnt see, am I blind

I may be blind

[eager mountain]

im occasionally blind

[eager mountain]

what sync u at

[raven cairn]

top right in the second ss

[raven cairn]

596 rn

[keen vapor]

Day one

[eager mountain]

and u made it to CA in JP server
must be cuz my groups are too cursed

[gritty ridge]

I see, thx

[eager mountain]

out synced at 590, or out gemmed in other group

[raven cairn]

most people in my bracket dont take it that serious

[eager mountain]

cant su just put me out of those 2 stupid groups...

[raven cairn]

jp is rough

[eager mountain]

its indeed hell

couldve won both ca and top200 sr if im in sea

[raven cairn]

yeah im the same

with sr atleast, not ca

ive barely invested in pvp

[gritty ridge]

@shell hazel i dont know where I could put bisc here, but I can get 4 2rl teams

[shell hazel]

you wouldn't quantum emi here I think?

[eager mountain]

i stopped giving much f about sr when i realize its almost impossible to top200

[gritty ridge]

I can quantum anis instead

[raven cairn]

same

now i just go for top .5

[tropic summit]

there's a way

but you not gonna like it

[eager mountain]

stop investing on niche elem dps and happy with my 1%ish

[shell hazel]

|| credit card ||

[tropic summit]

it's a mix of good RNG with rocks and muney

[gritty ridge]

Better?

[tropic summit]

100%+ ele atk 50%+ atk? winner

[raven cairn]

honestly i think its too late to get t200 on jp no matter how much you spend

[tropic summit]

the CP is screaming but fortunately that's a CA team right

[gritty ridge]

Yes

[raven cairn]

maybe youd have a chance you full send 1 element

[shell hazel]

2RL emi may not need bisc to work as it's quick I guess, it's not really a comp I've had a chance to see much in action

[gritty ridge]

If this wasnt ca these comps would look pretty different

[eager mountain]

yeah that would be the way if possible

[raven cairn]

yeah im considering doing that with electric just to see how good id do

wont be t200 though

maybe top .1

[eager mountain]

elec can be my best invested elem relatively
well ofc i dont have isabel invested but

[gritty ridge]

@shell hazel 4 2rl 1 silly cope team

[raven cairn]

yeah my reason for focusing electric is that most people wouldnt have isabel/arcana built

[shell hazel]

I've seen worse 😄

team 5 though haha, we are basically down to whatever clip SG are left

[eager mountain]

the thing is that units like sbs alice rh rrh are commonly hyper invested for obvious reasons
so me having them invested doesnt change anything there

[gritty ridge]

The humble 2.5rl random stuff go team

[gritty ridge]

Is it good enough for finished product?

[shell hazel]

it's about all you can do there unless you want to try to use biscuit but I think it's too slow if you do

we're slower a bit but we lock poli as tank at p1

[gritty ridge]

Yeah thats probably a better chance at winning

[raven cairn]

yea thats another reason for electric, aside from cindy and ein there arent many electric units people have invested in

ig maiden as well cause of the electric sr team

[shell hazel]

maybe biscuit p2 instead of sugar

[gritty ridge]

Ohh solo b3

[shell hazel]

she can survive to 3RL I think, and if not poli should burst

vipert could be a clip SG b3 instead

[keen vapor]

Don't sugar

[shell hazel]

sugar is kind of stand in for any clip SG that is left here, they all have the same burst gen

same for viperT

[gritty ridge]

Could do noir

[shell hazel]

poli/biscuit/pepper makes up an OK core

noir is better off burst here

[gritty ridge]

<@&946725432554836008>

[eager mountain]

well the real reason to invest ein outside of sr is for malding hard MC before cindy... ppl like to call something like that meta for whatever reason
if not for MC, cindy is more of pvp and sr based rather then those kraken/campaign mandatories
mf yelling bugged cindy burst being overly broken... quite a joke to me day 1

[gritty ridge]

Better than viper?

She gives good dmg buff

[shell hazel]

I mean as b3

like you don't necessarily want to burst with Noir

this team is high cope anyway it may win some matches by virtue of being quick enough

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, just trying to figure out final tweaks before I give em final build

[shell hazel]

and with a few SG's it could do something

[eager mountain]

i prob tossed too many rocks in pvp already to have a chance to even top 0.2 sr lol

[raven cairn]

yeah that makes sense for ein, but i still think most people have a decent cindy

[eager mountain]

yep, most do, cuz most either wants sr or pvp or both
or just to beat MC
or just knowing she does good number without knowing its limitation

[gritty ridge]

Here's your cook sir

[raven cairn]

thanks

[gritty ridge]

Sorry it took so long, am still learning

[raven cairn]

all good

[tropic summit]

young padawan

[eager mountain]

its gonna take me even longer cuz of all the doubts and thus the only ca team ill try to cook is mine

[gritty ridge]

I can only get better by working with new things so ive gotta cook for others

[eager mountain]

rail found his sucessor

[gritty ridge]

More like I came in here with on fire meals so he had to stop me from giving him an aneurysm

[umbral belfry]

bigboi gained 200 cooking experience

he's about to level up

[gritty ridge]

This is the second ca ive cooked today

Both had good rosters so I got lucky

[shell hazel]

you can work with somewhat meh rosters as well just it's harder 😄

[raven cairn]

actually whod be a good replacement for sugar

[gritty ridge]

Im really used to my roster tho so my ca only took me like 10 min

[raven cairn]

cause mine is ass

[shell hazel]

swap a clip SG out of the sg team maybe

[gritty ridge]

You could use sanis, but itd be slower

Noir is same speed and high core so she could work

[shell hazel]

her burst kinda suck though

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

[quick lake]

pvp MA

[shell hazel]

I run bsoda | draket | b2 | noir | ros for my sg comp

[gritty ridge]

My pvp cooking is terrible compared to my pve

[raven cairn]

thats what i usually do

[shell hazel]

would free up maiden for the other team

[gritty ridge]

Is b.soda burst as good as maiden?

[coarse geyser]

What beats this consistently?

[shell hazel]

bsoda has decent burst but also she may die

[keen vapor]

Debatible better

[shell hazel]

either is probably ok 😛

[gritty ridge]

We want her to die on my team

[glad meteor]

The railtracer school is cooking

[gritty ridge]

Siren Noah scar

[raven cairn]

so run that sg team then replace sugar with maiden?

[shell hazel]

yes I think so, you can run xanne or naga as your b2

[raven cairn]

alright thanks

[shell hazel]

naga may be better built/better suited

but xanne should be reasonably safu

[gritty ridge]

If p1 doesnt die, my team is pretty slow tbh

[shell hazel]

anyone dead = rosa bursts

doesn't matter if it's your team

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, p1 is just highest chance

Wait, any team?

[coarse geyser]

is that p1-p3?

[shell hazel]

right, any team

[gritty ridge]

No

[eager mountain]

its 3rl, just 2rl scar it
if u want scar p1 u need less then 32 ammo

[gritty ridge]

Just need those 3 on tean

Or do what tibia said and 2rl scar

[shell hazel]

I won't necessarily want to sac my own units if I can just send 5 built sg team units and someone dies somewhere lol

[coarse geyser]

ive tried 2rl scar, with level and cp advantage. hasnt worked yet

[gritty ridge]

I thought rose had to have ally die

[quick lake]

must be the siren stun

[gritty ridge]

That makes things way easier

[shell hazel]

nope anyone die

[gritty ridge]

Cool, great to know

[shell hazel]

I'm building out my sg units a bit more as I can to actually make them more lethal as I think it will be more reliable

if you rely on one to die the opponent team may not be on the same page as you 😛

[gritty ridge]

This would win with literally anyone in flex

[tropic summit]

define win?

siren not in p1 or p2, unbuffed scarlet

[gritty ridge]

Stun Noah and kill their team

[tropic summit]

noah to be stunned against this team needs to be specifically p1

and your damage isn't lethal with unbuffed scarlet

[gritty ridge]

Oh I figured taunt would make it fine

Im learning more

[shell hazel]

their noah is p1

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

oh that team, still won't be lethal though

[shell hazel]

it's not a matter of taunt siren will shoot at p1

I do agree with that, it's why we send rapi

[eager mountain]

just scar b2 counter every shot and he can win

[gritty ridge]

Could put rh in flex for when jackal stunned

[coarse geyser]

best ive been able to do is an exact mirror, and still sometimes lose due, i think, cindy rng

[gritty ridge]

You dont really wanna go cindy v cindy

Cuz slower cindy will win

[shell hazel]

send rapi at em

you could also siren stun their noah

jackal will feed to 2RL

[gritty ridge]

This vould also work me thinks

[tropic summit]

you're bursting with jackal you silly

[coarse geyser]

this might be a thing here, actually

[gritty ridge]

Stunned

They have siren

[coarse geyser]

but still, would rather not run mirror

[glad meteor]

Flex can be jackal or helmt

[eager mountain]

guys just 2rl scar trina without putting scar p1...

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-gamer-speedrun-whipping-whisk-sweaty-gamer-gif-24775759

[shell hazel]

they tried that haha

we went over that before 😛

scar not lethal enough to cut through cindy probably

[gritty ridge]

Attacking would win?

Wait im dumb

[eager mountain]

cuz underinvested?

[gritty ridge]

Messed it up

[shell hazel]

cindy can be annoying for unbuffed scar tbh, if you don't have good enough rolls especially

[gritty ridge]

Jackal and noah both stunned

Meaning rh b1>noah>scar

[shell hazel]

do we even need noah if that works? they'd all be dead 😄

[eager mountain]

well if rh trina couldnt make it then theres a major issue with his investment

[gritty ridge]

More for security of mind

[shell hazel]

I dunno if they tried rh/trina variant

[coarse geyser]

rolls arent great in general, havent used her much outside of campaign, but i didnt know about the ammo thing

[eager mountain]

if u have the skills up u dont need that much from rolls there

[shell hazel]

nah we can't do this, it's too fast

jackal will b1 before siren stuns

[glad meteor]

Red hood not doing anything there

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

[shell hazel]

yes

[eager mountain]

jackel might burst first btw

[shell hazel]

she will do

[gritty ridge]

Does that mean my cook good

[glad meteor]

Unless kill siren

[coarse geyser]

scar 101010. should i just ditch all ammo rolls?

[glad meteor]

SR hit p5 and scar s2

[shell hazel]

I think the previous teams we sent would work anyway assuming not at cp deficit

[gritty ridge]

You have options

[glad meteor]

Yeah. We Just try not to put noah p1

P3 noah will give enemy extra gen though

[shell hazel]

I sent similar one to you

[glad meteor]

Might need to do some math there

[gritty ridge]

Idk if it matters tbh

Their main gen is jackal and helm

Meaning one 1 unit gives extra gen

Oh and noah

But shes stunned

[shell hazel]

send my rapi team I think it will work :)#pvp-arena message

the similar kara variant cindy one should also work

[tropic summit]

almost as if that team alone counters 90% of the matchups

[glad meteor]

When ban trina

[gritty ridge]

Can bay catch double buff scar?

[glad meteor]

Yes

[eager mountain]

ikr

[tropic summit]

single buff, double buff or a fart, bay catches the single hit nuke regardless

[shell hazel]

I suppose we could also send HelmT to catch the stun :d

then we fall back to traditional 2RL scar otherwise

[gritty ridge]

Ok, didnt know if you could do enough dmg to override her catch

[tropic summit]

if her cover dies yes, hence why you put her in p3 or p4

[glad meteor]

Maybe if you have red hood buffed rls/sgs that hit fast enough inbetween b2-3

[gritty ridge]

Hypothetically, would maxwell or sw kill through her catch because of pierce?

Ik both are unusable

[glad meteor]

Retro had red hood buffed emi. His rapi nuked through bay team

[gritty ridge]

Well rapi isnt a 1 hit nuke

[glad meteor]

It is with ele advantage and bay distribution

[gritty ridge]

Huh?

I mean her nuke doesn't hit only once

Depending on her ammo she can initial nuke and drill at same time

[glad meteor]

I meant bay distributes the damage accross the team. When rapi burst she’ll hit everyone if bay is alive. She has a hit like helm burst that can kill whole team

[eager mountain]

there are lots of answers just that no emi and low investment makes it look bad
u not tossing the answer to train bigboi?

[tropic summit]

he has to learn from mistakes

[eager mountain]

gotta love that siren stun timing is a specific knowledge

[tropic summit]

ikr

[eager mountain]

didnt need to know that back then when i learn pvp

[gritty ridge]

The answer to what?

How to counter 2rl scar?

[tropic summit]

tbh the game became so stupid and simple it's really pointless

there's 2 overall teams that can get rid of most of the defense teams

[gritty ridge]

There's alot of ways to counter 2rl scar

[tropic summit]

and the few defenses you can cook, will eventually fall to brute force

[eager mountain]

that rookie match up there

[gritty ridge]

I gave a team that im 90% sure would work

[tropic summit]

regardless done with my

lobbies haven't improved, but i had no expectations

[gritty ridge]

Im pretty sure this works almost every time

[gritty ridge]

Hwat

Did jackal not get stunned?

It looks like Noah got stunned

[coarse geyser]

jackal stunned, then noah stunned

[gritty ridge]

Both

[glad meteor]

Noah gets stunned later because of taunt probably

[eager mountain]

assuming lower than 12cs on def?
some of the best def can pull out at late sync could be just frame knowledge check to burn 100 gem

[gritty ridge]

Im confused how it took so long to burst that both jackal and Noah got stunned

[glad meteor]

Its after 50 hits. Different times

[eager mountain]

cuz jackel stunned and sabotaged her 3rd shot and thus not 3rl
and lmfao scar reload target skip

[coarse geyser]

wish i could just post video replay, dunno how to

[gritty ridge]

Shouldn't siren feed account for that?

[eager mountain]

maybe his scar wasnt linked.... if siren has really high atk lines

[gritty ridge]

Oh

I thought i made a good counter

[coarse geyser]

this guy has been 5xing me every day for months, kinda tired of it tbh

would love to just stop him up for good

[eager mountain]

always something to learn in this mode its gold by some means

[gritty ridge]

Can't really do that unless you wanna build nero moran

[coarse geyser]

i have nothing into nero, moran half built

noise also in progress

[gritty ridge]

Noise is good, especially if you like running cindy

[coarse geyser]

def willing to build anything if it means getting him off me

[gritty ridge]

Nero moran is a good team, but it kinda bricks you pve for a while

[coarse geyser]

im kinda done with pve, hm pushing is just kinda w/e

[glad meteor]

Can you run

Noise siren cindy jackal noah?

[coarse geyser]

noise isnt built, but i can try

[glad meteor]

As long as no cp def I guess

[gritty ridge]

I still have to push pve, thats why I run moran bay

Less investment heavy and still works pretty good

[coarse geyser]

hmm

[worthy knoll]

Your Noah is making them quicker, and your lineup is too slow, even with feed from Siren won't make you any quicker than 2.5 RL, assuming if you have the CS, else its still 3 🤔

[gritty ridge]

Thats the comp i made

I was trying to speed match and just invul cindy

[glad meteor]

Unlinked noise but worked

[worthy knoll]

Full charge Taunters should always be on P1 or P5

Specially the ones who have the taunt prio

[coarse geyser]

no one got stunned. noise died as it went off maybe?

[gritty ridge]

Yeah ik, just couldnt do Noah p1 or p5 against that specific comp

With rh i mean

[glad meteor]

Maybe

[worthy knoll]

Noise got stunned

You can see no Noise heal, means Jackal bursted

[coarse geyser]

stunned for a split second, youre right

guess ill funnel into noise

best results so far

[worthy knoll]

Coz its arranged correctly this time at least making them slow

[coarse geyser]

how best to build noise? cubes, lines, etc?

[glad meteor]

Cube - Temper cube

OL

• Charge speed a little less than noah according to frame rate calc or same as noah, so can use adjutant to manipulate taunt.
• Attack lines are good for linking her to jackal

[worthy knoll]

Mmh was your Scarlet linked on this one? Somehow the logs are saying your highest atk was Siren and RH 🤔

[coarse geyser]

sry, i dont understand links 😬

[gritty ridge]

Merry what do you rate

This is one of my spa defences

[worthy knoll]

Jackal give buff link, they are given to the 2 highest atk units, whenver Jackal is hit or this othere 2 links are hit, they take the same amount of damage. If you have a record you will notice this

[worthy knoll]

Erm for SPA Def?

[gritty ridge]

Its also in my ca

[worthy knoll]

I just RRH kill any Bay comps

Dunno on CA, but I don't think it can win SG 🤔

Was there a CA vid of Bay Helm wining against SG?

[glad meteor]

Can win on defence. Not on offense

[worthy knoll]

I was thinking the damage link from Bay could mess things up

[coarse geyser]

then looks like rh and scar had highest atk on sheets. but siren only 2k behind scar

[glad meteor]

SG nukes are mid. Rosa nuke goes to bay and moran buff with helm strong

[gritty ridge]

Test in union range

Paper atk means nothing

[glad meteor]

As long as Moran tanks it can win , but sg hit p5, it over

[worthy knoll]

The nuke is not the problem but the normal hits

But I haven't saw any Bay Helm vs SG yet

[glad meteor]

oh, but yeah. I used to use moran bay. Def it won. Off it lost.

[worthy knoll]

So I'm not sure

I mean I saw an SG team wrecked Moran quickly

[glad meteor]

Possible I guess

[gritty ridge]

Bay heals too, that helps no?

[worthy knoll]

Well maybe that Moran is uninvested, maybe, hopefully

[gritty ridge]

Jackal, scar, and rh linked

[glad meteor]

The heals are low if I’m not mistaken. May help a bit

[gritty ridge]

2% per shot

[worthy knoll]

Is that loadout your using same as on Arena?

Coz the cubes might be different

[gritty ridge]

Do cubes affect atk?

I thought was just ele

[worthy knoll]

It could if they are just close in value

[coarse geyser]

i think cubes are different

[worthy knoll]

Like really realy close

[gritty ridge]

My fun ca, lets hope i make it out of group

Dont look at t5

[worthy knoll]

Oh, btw, you can click each unit in here too, the link part is the buff with Jumping Jackal name, memorize the icon for it

What does T5 even do

[gritty ridge]

Exist

Heal alot

[worthy knoll]

Its all heal no bite

[gritty ridge]

Be fun to watch

I dont have rosanna for sg

[coarse geyser]

so more atk lines on scar, or is it all cubes?

[worthy knoll]

Just checking if your Scar is really linked.. its rare but..

There are outliers who's offensive supporter is higher atk than their attackers

But yeah whenever you use Scarlet with Jackal, you want her among the linked

[gritty ridge]

Like when my siren and helm link over rh

[worthy knoll]

If you want the ideal Scar for pvp, 4 atk lines, 4 crit rate, 1 52.5% ammo line, rest is prolly 3 crit damage or 2 crit damage and one Ele

Yes the ammo line is specific value

[coarse geyser]

i only used scar for behemoth, so i can redo her for pvp with those stats

learned a lot today, yall are godly. thank you so much.

[worthy knoll]

The ammo line is one way to prevent Siren stunning her while still having at least 3 S1 stacks

[coarse geyser]

so the stun is set in stone? timing cant change?

[worthy knoll]

Its not necessary but its good to have as you can bravely just place Scarlet on P1 even if there is a Siren

[worthy knoll]

The timing of the stun is fixed, depending on the positions though, you can manipulate who gets stunned

Though its usually P1 who is the victim unless the Siren in question is in a tauntable position in this case, the stun will be on the taunter, wherever position she is

[coarse geyser]

im stoked, some clear build goals now. thank you so much.

[acoustic light]

@placid bloom do u have time to put ur SG team up again rq

[placid bloom]

give me a few min

ok go ahead

[unkempt flame]

Hey do you still make teams on here?

[quartz rover]

why does the pvp tierlist talk about 2b??

[gritty ridge]

Shes like cindy but bad

[quartz rover]

cindy but hot

understandable

[gritty ridge]

Dont make me do it

[gritty ridge]

Wdym "but"

Are you implying cindy isnt hot

[quartz rover]

not as

I definitely lean more one way than the other

also do not cook you'll burn down the kitchen

[gritty ridge]

Its just cindy

But worse

[quartz rover]

what is the pvp calculator site

[gritty ridge]

Which one

[quartz rover]

image posted above

it lets you save "decks" and stuff

[gritty ridge]

Its in pins

Its the mobile friendly one

[acoustic light]

alright thanks kuwon

[placid bloom]

np

[gritty ridge]

Kuwon you like my cindy team?

[placid bloom]

what team

[gritty ridge]

"Cindy"

[quick lake]

nikke-deck

[quartz rover]

this one

[placid bloom]

good luck with it I guess

[gritty ridge]

Is peak?

[placid bloom]

I think p1 variant with Biscuit is better

[gritty ridge]

Wait i can actually use 2b?

[placid bloom]

she's okay

most likely not enough damage though

probably loses most matchup except against SG if you are running Biscuit p1 variant

[quick lake]

hard in this day and age

[gritty ridge]

On a more realistic note, is indom rrh good?

[placid bloom]

it's okay

[quick lake]

not bad imo

[placid bloom]

if you're hitting into something like Noise Noah Cindy it's fine

if they have Biscuit maybe you lose

[quartz rover]

how's my cook

[gritty ridge]

4rl

[placid bloom]

[gritty ridge]

0 buff ein

[quartz rover]

who the buffers

[placid bloom]

well it's Moran Biscuit, just the standard beats single target team loses to AoE

not much else

but at that point Moran can be any defender p1 tbh

[gritty ridge]

Sg weak

If attacking

[quartz rover]

can someone cook up 3 teams with these?

[gritty ridge]

If you swap centi to outside its safer

[placid bloom]

it loses to SG anyway if they have Rosanna, since SG Ros is naturally 3.5RL

[gritty ridge]

True

[quartz rover]

also helm is in fact not treasured

[placid bloom]

Ein will die in 1 hit before Moran can even cast

[gritty ridge]

Untreasured helm is not usable

[quartz rover]

also do I even put trina with ein if she would be better off with one of the other many b3

[gritty ridge]

Ein needs big buffs to do enough dmg

[quartz rover]

my ein is uninvested

[gritty ridge]

Ideally youd pair her with rh b1

[placid bloom]

Trina just battery, you have nobody that scales with HP

unless you doing some funky Moran carry shenanigan

[gritty ridge]

Moran trina bisc

[quartz rover]

I have more but that's a list provided to me of usable characters I have with somewhat investment

[gritty ridge]

You could do sbs indom, maybe a rosanna sac team, and then rh buffed ein

Realistically tho you get 2 teams and then campaign team

[quartz rover]

I was told my rosanna is cheeks and wont really do much

best she'll do is targeted silence or something?

[gritty ridge]

She'll gen burst and cut links

She wont do any attacker sniping

[quartz rover]

does blanc need to burst for indom

[gritty ridge]

Whats your cp on this

[gritty ridge]

Yes

[quartz rover]

did I just get a peak ol???

[gritty ridge]

Cs is good, ele is good, crit rate is bad

[quartz rover]

best ol I made yet

[gritty ridge]

Im having so much trouble making you this indom team

[quartz rover]

the indom may not even go on the right nikke

last time I ran blanc she kept making jackal indom

[placid bloom]

how you getting indom, that's Crown not Blanc

[quartz rover]

I thought blanc does indom too

[gritty ridge]

Only blanc does indom

[placid bloom]

Crown does nothing

just buffer

shield useless in PvP

[gritty ridge]

Im struggling hard

That 2nd team cp is gonna be terrible

[quartz rover]

yes

[gritty ridge]

Indom is so expensive

[gritty ridge]

Sad

[quartz rover]

[gritty ridge]

Its slow and weak

[quartz rover]

this does not look favorable

maybe this is more favorable

[gritty ridge]

Well they're extremely slow

[quartz rover]

won't biscuit do biscuit things

[placid bloom]

[quartz rover]

gotta learn somehow, we ball

[gritty ridge]

Yeah dont use rh b3 against biscuit teams

[placid bloom]

whether you have the gear to make this work is another story altogether

[quartz rover]

oops

[gritty ridge]

Kuwon what is trina doing in p5

[quartz rover]

oh my god I died

[placid bloom]

she is just making the team faster

[quartz rover]

ALL my teams lost

[placid bloom]

you are already going RH > Centi > Ein

[quartz rover]

we so cooked

[placid bloom]

unless you wanna swap Trina and Biscuit in case Centi gets stunned so you can do RH > Trina > Ein

nvm it'll be RH > RH > Ein anyway

[gritty ridge]

Yeah dont use rh against biscuit teams

[placid bloom]

you'd have to move RH backward

[gritty ridge]

You will lose most of the time

[quartz rover]

what does rh do vs biscuit

[placid bloom]

this better

[gritty ridge]

Single target burst gets stuck on an invulnerable unit

[quartz rover]

also how'd I lose to this

[placid bloom]

wym how you lose, 3 SG shooting Mermaid

[gritty ridge]

You got executed

[quartz rover]

nvm I see it

[placid bloom]

4 SG actually

[quartz rover]

she's my only burst 1 too

[placid bloom]

[gritty ridge]

You will learn

[quartz rover]

I forgot to put crown in p5

is baby

[placid bloom]

well yeah you don't have the gear to make it work

[quartz rover]

hol up noir has no gear

much better

they dont have cubes either

wtf I dont have squints a vigor cube

that's vigor right

[gritty ridge]

The odds of jackal having more health than sbs is low

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

[quartz rover]

yeah my sbs has less hp

[placid bloom]

I mean you can do this too if CP is an issue and team 2 doesn't care about speed, just trying to wall single target damage

[gritty ridge]

Wait really?

Thats good actually

[gritty ridge]

Yeah thats good

That means you can jackal indom with her

I have to biscuit lock for my indom

Cuz jackal has low hp

[quartz rover]

where the hell is vigor cube

[placid bloom]

usually Jackal OL chest is enough to make her HP higher than attacker

click it and check the reward

who is gonna remember

[gritty ridge]

Too many levels to remember

[quartz rover]

I cant look at ones I dont have access to

these give no cubes or batteries

[gritty ridge]

Btw kuwon should I level level quantum or tempering first

[quartz rover]

should I try doing this cook rn?

[placid bloom]

you don't even have it unlocked

you didn't clear 26

[quartz rover]

I can clear 26

[gritty ridge]

No he needs to clear sector 17

[placid bloom]

slack

[gritty ridge]

Do your lost sector

[quartz rover]

the multiple team stuff is walling me

[placid bloom]

you have RH

[quartz rover]

exhibit A

[placid bloom]

how can you be walled

[gritty ridge]

Just backtrack

[placid bloom]

RH can solo burst

[quartz rover]

and she's a stat stick

[gritty ridge]

Most sectors you can backtrack and swap members

[placid bloom]

well then you will just have to play without vigor

[gritty ridge]

Im tempted to level vigor for cindy

But then id brick my other cubes

[quartz rover]

would rh doing all bursts be better than rouge and blanc

[placid bloom]

well you can move Alice to the other team, then do Rouge + Blanc with no B3 to clear first wave of enemies

[umbral belfry]

another sr15 just before ca that makes 3

[placid bloom]

then RH > RH > RH on target wave

[umbral belfry]

rng is blessing me

[placid bloom]

surely that is better?

[quartz rover]

you're smart

[placid bloom]

reported

[umbral belfry]

[quartz rover]

retorted

the redhood plan is working

red hood diff

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

I reported hime to shift up for bullying me with doll rng

And in ca

[placid bloom]

I think I should stop invest PvP

just be PvE main

pleb path

[quartz rover]

life is simpler that way apparently

[umbral belfry]

[quartz rover]

easier to 3% than fight whales or something

[placid bloom]

well I can wait until I get knocked out of 4th first

but it seem like the time may be coming soon

[swift mango]

PvE is the true hardcore path.

Unless you don't care about Union raid I guess.

[warped dagger]

pls give me some gift code i am newbe

[oblique ridge]

Hehe the “stop invest PvP” works for me

[crystal flicker]

PvE invest harder than PvP

Coz we got new PvE Nikke every MT

[quartz rover]

biscuit is so toxic

I hate her

Losing to this bozo cause I have to either fight his stupid biscuit team or get power to take out his campaign team

[full dew]

what are the teams?

[crystal flicker]

Rare wild Gatrix has appeared!

[quartz rover]

I already used my two tries today so it doesnt matter too much

Ill just gain the power tomorrow after reset

[quartz rover]

They limit to 400?

[crystal flicker]

CA auto 400

[quartz rover]

So any nikke is 400 or just caps you at 400

[crystal flicker]

Any Nikke

So this 2B Noise Nuke against Biscuit, i don't know how they got that number, while against other comp it shows 2.1M

[gritty ridge]

Centi shield maybe?

[full dew]

probably +70% def

[crystal flicker]

She actually deal better damage with RH b1

[spiral onyx]

Guess who's back

[gritty ridge]

I can't ask quiry cuz she cant see who

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/eminem-guesswhosback-car-headbob-gif-5006818795130884873

[wind kelp]

Sits on 4th - looks at folks going back and forth on 3rd - Is ok, don't mind me

[full dew]

just when I slandered you

[shell hazel]

[rich quail]

[crystal flicker]

I need 2B Treasure

[languid mason]

what team are yall running for special arena

[quick lake]

check pins for teams

[crystal flicker]

2RL Scarlet, Stall, 2.5RL Cindy iirc

Depend if you have Emi or not

The most common CA comps are 2RL Scarlet, Stall comp, SG comp, 2.5 or 2RL Cindy, and something with Blanc

No Nero built?

She needs max invest ye

SR15 10/x/x

She's the heart of the stall

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message
Can use Keripo's if you're Neroless or don't want to invest to her, though his comp is very invested lol

[glad meteor]

3rl noah sanis is slow against sgs, scarlet, dps struggle against cindy. Don’t know if it is worth

[open python]

Can someone help me make a team for pvp with what I got please? Also please make it in order(I'm struggling in team building) and it's for SP Arena

[shell hazel]

you can't build much focus pve and cp pad your teams with a few pvp units dotted in for speed

wishlist everyone out of the SS/SSS pvp tier list on prydwen

at least everyone you can (no s.anis, emi, or xmaiden available they're limited)

include these 4 in your pvp teams, split them up maybe 2 in 2 teams

biscuit protects defenders, put biscuit at p3 or p4 and then a defender at p1

centi or jackal would be defenders here

you could run jackal | flex | biscuit | flex | flex

then centi/trina can go nearer the end of the line on the next team

flex | flex | flex | trina | centi

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

add your proposed units you want to use for flex spots here aim for 3RL 100% if you can

[open python]

Thanks, I appreciate all the help I definitely needed this so thanks🙏

[tropic summit]

tedious though, and anyway there's still the problem of those 2 generic attack teams

[tropic summit]

ye sure what's up

[shell hazel]

here you go, this looks OK to me

team 3 auto lol you can't really do a lot with it 😄

[shell hazel]

no worries check the teams I sent here think they look good to start with#pvp-arena message

mix of some pvp burst gen + your more invested dps/supports

most people at your sync won't burst at 3RL so you can snipe some wins that way

[junior zephyr]

Hey chat rate my team, Is it good enough? I don’t have Noah and Rapunzel

[crystal flicker]

Good thing, I'm done making 1.66RL Scarlet comp

[shell hazel]

I'd potentially flip rumani/jackal around, jackal would make your indom more reliable

can still 2RL with rumani on scar it's just a bit less resilient

would let you run SBS at p1 as well

or p2

[coarse solstice]

Also want to put a defender P5 on biscuit team

[shell hazel]

yeah jackal could live there, sbs at p1 should be OK (jackal linked won't die)

[crystal flicker]

I wont use Poli and DoroS together, they slow down the entire comp
And if you want to use Poli only as B2, you shouldn't put her at P1

[shell hazel]

also ros at p2 I disagree with

she'll lose concealment on splash damage

put ros at p4 or p5

[junior zephyr]

Sry I’m new, this team is only based with RL

Thanks for your advises

[shell hazel]

it's not bad what you have tbh

just some readjustments a bit can improve it

team 5 is cope though

but I think 4 good teams + 1 cope team is best if you can't make 5 good teams

[tropic summit]

you don't have to sugarcoat it

[junior zephyr]

Ye only if i have Noah i can make it better

[shell hazel]

we'll send Bigboi in and he can add pascal

[tropic summit]

T1 is ok
T2 is slow, waste of helmt
T3 weak but acceptable
T4 too slow
T5 too slow

i'd say change T4 and T5 or at least fix cindy team

you want 3 decent teams at the minimun

[shell hazel]

I hadn't actually seen t2 properly 😄

you could maybe 2rl bay cope somewhere

2rl scar is a given to run

[junior zephyr]

I don’t have that many charge card i think?

2rl scar cuz my 3rl scar got crushed by that team last time.

[shell hazel]

we can maybe 2rl bay cope the stall comp

with helmT there instead

you can 3RL Cindy without helmT

[junior zephyr]

wait im going to change

[shell hazel]

gimme a mo as well see what I can do

[tropic summit]

SG team to 2.5RL or 3RL
cindy to 2.5RL or 2RL
scarlet can be 95-98% to 2RL

the nero moran is w/e don't bother, SBS can stay but not at the cost of having so many average teams

[pale osprey]

I need help building an Team for Rookie Arena and SP Arena, help

[tropic summit]

post box

@gritty ridge will cook it

[shell hazel]

do you have xmaiden?

[junior zephyr]

2.5 ani I got in so nope

[frank zephyr]

Can anyone help cook some better teams for CA? This was my setup last time and got me to the last round of qualifiers and lost 2-3 to someone who went top 32 🫠 . Missing all the limited units that haven't reran recently and only treasure is P2 Helm.

Last team was just auto and send it so it obviously lost every round

[shell hazel]

team 5 ???

(also note a wild pascal appears)

Bigboi would be proud I'm sure

[frank zephyr]

I don't have DrakeT

[shell hazel]

not for your teams sir

[wind kelp]

Wait, did you mean me? What did i do?! 😄

[junior zephyr]

Wow, you directly helped me with my homework, thanks so much!

[shell hazel]

for team 5 I dunno what you can run here see what is left 😄

[frank zephyr]

@gritty ridge Is sleeping. Why can't he get over here and cook. He's always lighting #team-building on fire

[junior zephyr]

Forget team 5 bro!

[shell hazel]

you can still do something with t5 it just won't be impressive lol

I call it the cope stall

[wind kelp]

I was given 4 teams, so i assumed team 5 was a "junk team" slot, so did some personal stupid cooking there. I think i threw like arti-bay, rapi, rapunzel, naga, what have you in there 😄

[shell hazel]

if not this just run a bunch of whatever high burst gen you have left 😄

[junior zephyr]

I don’t have Maiden lol, anyway at best we do t5 can barely win any team.

I think

[shell hazel]

sugar instead of maiden then, it's clip SG gen

but yep call team 5 run whatever you feel like team lol

as you say it probably won't win much, you could just run your highest remaining dps even if you can't burst

sometimes can win via auto attack 🙂

[junior zephyr]

Also I don’t need Siren? Hear out that she’s OP

[shell hazel]

you can try her on the sbs team instead of pepper if you want to play with it, lowers burst speed a bit

but that team should be somewhat survivable, that's where I'd put here if I wanted to run

also frees up pepper to replace pascal

[junior zephyr]

[shell hazel]

you can't run her on t1 or t2 that well imo, t1 you need RH buff to stay lethal

t2 she's too slow you'd not be 2RL anymore

[tropic summit]

she's good but not if you're killing a team speed to slot her in

[junior zephyr]

Im just curious, So guess I will keep the team without her.

[shell hazel]

she can add a wildcard element to the mix

you'd stay 3RL if you can get 10% feed by 3RL

assumed no CS on jackal/biscuit here

may need to check who jackal links with as well (probably siren + sbs)

in which case I'd consider putting siren at p1 and sbs at p2, vigor on siren maybe just to ensure she has more hp

jackal link indom means you want SBS to have the least hp as damage shares equally

[tropic summit]

use biscuit jackal sbs and blanc for something else hippo

that's a real waste of resources for a below average team

it's already started

[shell hazel]

am not re-cooking more here 😛

[tropic summit]

ask @gritty ridge

where's the man when you need him

[shell hazel]

I sleep for the rest of the afternoon hehe

I think the teams are OK, you're not likely to win without 5 good teams anyway (rng order aside)

so you can use this CA as a trial thing to some degree see how they do, and invest in stuff :0

[fathom rock]

I see a ca cook of mihara crown ein rossana drakeT

[wanton island]

how we feel'n about today champs?

[fathom rock]

I dont feel those cuz i aint one

[wanton island]

youre one in my eyes. i dont care what railtracer says about you

[fathom rock]

[wanton island]

i finally mlb sRosanna. is sSakura used in anything anymore?

[shell hazel]

I wound up getting an srosanna for waifu 😄

I have to skip sakura I don't think I need to use her anywhere

[wanton island]

try her with bready. its pretty good

[shell hazel]

yeah I saw she was good with bready and raven

I can't mlb her though, I have only limited gems

[wanton island]

oh... raven too? glad i got her then

[wanton island]

i had to pity the last copy due to lack of tickets being sold

i have like 2,000 golden tickets

[fathom rock]

Nah sadly

[wanton island]

k. guess she just crosses off the nikkepedia book then for collection purposes

kinda need a break with all these limited banners. SU has been going hard since Eve collab

[fathom rock]

Nov and december and jan waiting to havw all our gems

[wanton island]

hard to save between now and nov->jan

we are still getting sAnis releasing

[coarse solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-behemoth-musan-pro-gif-5879428640611644990

I really just need Behemoth in my life

[wanton island]

rumors swirl that her or anis/neon are anniv

[shell hazel]

🐳

[coarse solstice]

I doubt they'd do both. Maybe Anis for Half and Neon for the next year

[shell hazel]

I don't think we'd get both either

don't forget we get NY pilgrim as well

at most we'd see them one at anni the other at NY I reckon

[wanton island]

oh yeah. i still have ptsd about rapi rh

did like 3-400 rolls and didnt get a single copy

[coarse solstice]

1% banners are evil

[wanton island]

theyve been ok for me after rapi rh disaster but the fact you can roll so many times and not get a 1% is ridiculous

this double 1% is incredibly unlikely too

[coarse solstice]

At least the pity system isn't evil guaranteed at least 1 after 200 rolls

[wanton island]

yeah. the saving grace

[grand plaza]

Everything is pretty shet for me for some reason since Eve banners. I spend 70 pulls min even for %2

[shell hazel]

yeah I think sros was 70 pulls for me lol

I have about 100 left and enough mileage for 1-2 copies of something

[wanton island]

sRos was 30 or 40 for first copy. took another 100 or so rolls to get 2 more copies and i pitied the last one

i did the same thing with a2 and 2b since ive been hovering around 2k gold tickets

[coarse solstice]

SRosa banner hit really good for me got her in 3 multis plus some extra

[shell hazel]

I'm sure my SSR rate feels nowhere near to 4% 😄

more like 3% maybe

if I get an SSR in 10 it's usually just 1

I've had long streaks of nothing

[wanton island]

interesting. mine swings wildly. either it's raining copies or i have to go over 100 pulls before they start dispensing

[shell hazel]

I don't think I've really had a great lucky streak in a while

[wanton island]

like trina didnt pop out after 100 pulls, but the next 100 gave me like 5 copies of her

[shell hazel]

think my last lucky streak was with m.anchor where I got a few copies in 70, took like 70 to show up then I got 3 lol

[wanton island]

try pulling a day or 2 after she releases. i have a theory that everyone pulling on day of release cycles the percentage count

like if we are all pulling for doro on release day and hippo pulls a doro, it resets the count even though others pull

thats how it FEELS anyway

[shell hazel]

but I wanna pull right away 🙁

[wanton island]

yeah. so does everyone

i dont even pull the day it releases anymore due to how bad luck it is for me

[coarse solstice]

Just have to be the first to pull one

[covert lintel]

[silent grotto]

can you swap around teams when champion arena has started?

[fathom rock]

No

@umbral belfry No way decreasing scar ammo made me defend the guy who was beating me

[silent grotto]

so team position doesnt matter then, just luck that determines if they face what they counter?

[fathom rock]

You can try and play 4d chess with team order by predicting how opponent gonna order theirs

[silent grotto]

i see

however there is a slight problem with that

i have like negativ IQ so that will be quite hard for me

[fathom rock]

This just makes you less predictable trust

[silent grotto]

i have faith

its gonna be an easy sweep first time in it

[coarse solstice]

There are some trends that can put things in your favor. Doesn't mean the trend won't suddenly change

Like you can count on some people to straight up copypasta teams including order. So if you position your teams favorably against the previous champ you'll do better

[silent grotto]

thats exactly what i did

think ill shuffle them around a bit then

[umbral belfry]

yeah eat that corn

[shell hazel]

@umbral belfry

[fathom rock]

How horrid is this

Lemme swap siren and rh rq

[coarse solstice]

Like it can work but I hate it

*Their defense

[fathom rock]

Hey me too but its what both of us got probably

I change my mind i think this easier

Gotta protecc p5 tho

[shell hazel]

but then you know that there will be people that do that, so you position favourably to beat the people that position to beat the previous champion teams

https://tenor.com/view/iq-smart-think-about-it-in-here-smile-gif-14369127

[umbral belfry]

about to go to work working with doggos again

the time has come hippo

[shell hazel]

Hime is that even work though?

[umbral belfry]

yes

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

is it you're just chilling with doggos? 🤣

[fathom rock]

Works in a shelter trust

[umbral belfry]

taking care of doggos

[shell hazel]

you're just playing with them 🙁

[umbral belfry]

washing, grooming, Kennel stuff

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/barking-dogs-barking-angry-guard-dog-the-dobermann-gif-19955262

[shell hazel]

and getting paid for it

[umbral belfry]

it's more than that

[shell hazel]

trade jobs

[umbral belfry]

this would scare you

[glad meteor]

[umbral belfry]

dobermans are p cool though, but I can understand from first glance lmao

[shell hazel]

yeah no thanks 🙁

[umbral belfry]

okay bye bye gl in ca

[shell hazel]

byeee Hime have fun 👋

[fathom rock]

Have a nice day

[glad meteor]

Its a dog barking

[fathom rock]

I lost this

[shell hazel]

it's cindy p1 but you have no splash damage at all 😄

[glad meteor]

Cindy tank sg

[shell hazel]

Retro what are you doing?

[fathom rock]

There is a reason i still ask for help in pvp

[shell hazel]

RL target skip p1 cindy so if you take RL units you get extra burst gen

as splash damage aims at p2, hits cindy + decoy + p2 + p3

4 targets instead of the usual 2

[fathom rock]

Whyi think sg skip ci dy and go hit p2

[shell hazel]

yeah they don't 😄

[grand plaza]

Just RL or everyone?

[shell hazel]

SR and SG don't skip

if I recall right

can't remember on smg/ar

but you can punish cindy p1 with RL units mostly

[glad meteor]

All except sg/sr skip

[grand plaza]

I thought that punish just comes from her shield tbh, didn't know skip thing.

And that explains why Siren doesn't stun p2 cind (after p1 dies) and instead stuns p3

[shell hazel]

yeah it's the splash and cindy counting as 2 things

[fathom rock]

Pvp so wack

[shell hazel]

rl splash is target + either side, usually that is just p1 + p2

but now your p2 makes it 4 things 😄

[grand plaza]

Honest I don't understand why they skip Cindy tho, she doesn't even go to cover while shooting

[shell hazel]

her decoy skill

if you put rosa p1 and cindy p2 then opponents will actually skip to p3 lol

if you have enough target skips you could force opponent to p5 😄

[grand plaza]

Have 5 target skip and take no damage

[shell hazel]

with a full team though the best we got atm is to p4

rosa, cindy, smol rei

[grand plaza]

[shell hazel]

on new rookie season I may try sending less units with target skips see what happens

like just cindy + rosa for example, we had a discussion on it last night

[coarse solstice]

All about what they're more likely to do. Most people aren't on the discord. All in all not worth sweating.

[shell hazel]

I know I was more joking hehe 😄

like the 4d chess game

[fathom rock]

Just use the data of all participants of last ca

[grand plaza]

Does XAnne has any use other than CA?

[placid bloom]

if you're attacking into a Rosanna Def team with Scarlet you can revive, that's about it

more of a luxury attack option than for general defense team

[shell hazel]

I may eventually just PoliT and put her on last line of def lol

going to see how she does in the upcoming CA

advantages are easy to max core and she will probably gift you a win if you're SG team is attacking and opponent SG team is defending

[placid bloom]

well if anything she makes BSoda nuke a bit fatter