pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

no way

sensei I have graduated

[terse dragon]

yeah fifth time

[oblique ridge]

RIP, Keripo won

[swift mango]

Well, guess they wasn't much a whale as you claimed.

[oblique ridge]

Came down to Helm dying the instant she bursted

If she hadn’t, she’d have healed

[tropic summit]

pick w/e of the following options is better on your CP, your teams are on the left

helm is assumed being at least phase 2, s1 lvl 10
scarlet needs to be linked, so she's 2nd or 1st highest atk% (OL included) between emilia and RH

[tropic summit]

now watch w/e happened on the SBS and SG teams

pretty sure you survived cindy's nuke

[dense kindle]

Hey congrats!

[keen vapor]

Happy CA everyone

[lunar pawn]

Shocker

+6h cd

[tropic summit]

you're in severe CP deficit, you need to be at least 905k to not be hit by penality

you can find that out by multiplying enemy CP for 0.846

[static plaza]

Also want to ask is sg team legit for pvp now with all the new treasure added?
Might build them up for Sr and pvp

[tropic summit]

for SParena only for attack side, on defense side it's easy to counter

[lunar pawn]

For CA yea

[static plaza]

👍

[keen vapor]

SG team in PVP is not the same as in SG team in PvE

[lunar pawn]

X anne rerun and new treasures, pvp is eating good

[placid bloom]

easy champion run

only you were the one who didn't believe

[static plaza]

Ain't it just mean more invest?
The only thing pvp don't need would be ele line which depend on whether u try hard top 100 in Sr then it might matter

[shell hazel]

thanks 😄

[keen vapor]

PVP uses Rosanna
PvE uses Tove

[placid bloom]

Tove is a big skill book sink

[shell hazel]

this is true though Rail gave up on me 3 games ago lol (and then regained the faith)

[tropic summit]

not just me, a few more ppl did

[keen vapor]

PvE uses generic duo for burst 2

PVP uses more niche units

[placid bloom]

you might also have to build Poli or Viper, neither of which see use in PvE

[shell hazel]

I recorded the matches etc, match 1 I did survive in fact I also got a res cycle, tankier moran/nero would have made it

[placid bloom]

or at least not enough use

[shell hazel]

poli just might with the treasure

[static plaza]

Good to know
Let what I can do with sg team
Ty for the info

[placid bloom]

Poli is a big maybe

[keen vapor]

[upper grove]

summer doro SG as well

[placid bloom]

her shield not being individual shield like Tia/Crown is just so much worse

[crystal flicker]

I'm a loser

[placid bloom]

[static plaza]

Pray Dorothy become a new carry for sg team
Highly doubt but seeing how they pushing for sg team might be the case lol

[keen vapor]

SG water Pilgrim is here

[upper grove]

I saw you in finals but matchups were hard

[shell hazel]

I see Tove / Poli / Drake / DoroS / some B1 being potential new pve sg?

[oblique ridge]

Hehe, next time

[crystal flicker]

Noway my stall lose

[dense kindle]

We go again!

[placid bloom]

next season surely

you will get your champion run

[keen vapor]

Guys, why are we so sure Poli will be 20 seconds? like, we know SU's trolling with Milk CDR

[oblique ridge]

Hehe, I should’ve kept cheer on Keripo.

Well, normally Helm has a big heal from bursting. She bursted then died instead, no heal for herself

And in the end, the enemy Scarlet died just as she killed Rapunzel, leaving it full hp XMaiden vs almost dead Biscuit

If Helm had lived, it’d likely be Rapunzel + Biscuit vs XMaiden. Rapunzel probably wins that

[shell hazel]

trust (and pray )

[placid bloom]

well she could just be like XAnne, fat one-time steroid just for PvP

[oblique ridge]

Poli will be known in 6 days

[placid bloom]

no second rotation

[swift mango]

First load time is 2 min, but no pop up stops the game from loading.

Afterwards, if I crashed or closed the app and opened it again, it only took 10 seconds.

That's what a good coding is.

[keen vapor]

jackal 2

Poli skill 1 will be the strongest 💪

[shell hazel]

my matches if anyone wants to see em @tropic summit @swift mango keen to see if you could see areas for improvement on my side 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuID4uc1-B8

[swift mango]

Congrats 🎉

[shell hazel]

thanks sir 🙂

[shell hazel]

wait it's 2 mins to load into that game? 😮

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel did u win it?

[shell hazel]

I did!

[hollow lagoon]

gratz

[shell hazel]

thanks 🙂

I backed myself and got the cheer frame also

[hollow lagoon]

no i harvest my 6 hours of cash

[hollow lagoon]

tis how it should be

[shell hazel]

thanks for your support sir I think it helped the game give me the win

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-crossed-arms-pikachu-eyes-closed-pokemon-gif-15194868

[tropic summit]

RNG did sneeze in your favour in the end

[hollow lagoon]

i just need rng gods to gib me another win and i'm satisified

[tropic summit]

siren barely managed to get B1 going in time

the dude is probably cursing not investing into that 1 extra atk% OL

[hollow lagoon]

that's me with how my rosana didnt yeet enemy helm

sliver of hp left

[tropic summit]

or crit, but wishing for crit is more unrealistic than having atk% OL pushed up

well interesting close match if anything, shame stall team lost to cindy

[shell hazel]

stunned drake probably didn't shoot either 😄

I can see why it was partially due to my moran only being R-15 there

and partially because my rapu and others still need gear and things

[keen vapor]

Malogro, is 8 am wake up

[shell hazel]

like upgrades, working on stuff a bit more for it now

[keen vapor]

@clear vessel wake up and take your place

[tropic summit]

the choice of anchor:IM probably backfired aswell, if it was a naga or viper it would've been different

then again maybe he'd have lost other matchups with that choice instead so

[shell hazel]

I ran her as well was mixed bag, it's natural 3RL but naga adds SG pressure

if she fires off that extra hp is nice

[keen vapor]

Wakey wakey~~

[tropic summit]

5 more minutes mom

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-bed-roll-waking-up-gif-16822009

[keen vapor]

Kyon

[shell hazel]

good catch ^

it's from the disappearance of haruhi movie, which is one of my fav anime movies

have to have seen the show (which has a few issues along the way inc endless 8) but the film was great

[keen vapor]

We live on a disappearance

[swift mango]

It's 3d game with fully voiced. So ofc it's that long. But only the first load.

Later load of the day only 10 sec

[keen vapor]

Pokemon Unite could never

[swift mango]

App doesn't crash as open when I chat on Discord either.

[swift mango]

And mean, it doesn't annoy me with 2 min load time if I could just throw the phone always to wait because nothing stopping it in the middle.

Compared to Nikke 100 sec every single time the app crashed and a pop up on the middle stopped the load screen

[shell hazel]

it's valid still also a long time, about equal to nikke

yeah I do agree on that one

[swift mango]

I mean, just look at the home screen of that game, it's obviously much heavier than Nikke.

[shell hazel]

[sleek imp]

chat is blood still saveable...

[shell hazel]

being tricked into playing lads

[sleek imp]

[shell hazel]

[sleek imp]

hot asian lads too

[shell hazel]

when we get female harem version?

[sleek imp]

the mc in that game is a cutie potootie

[swift mango]

I played the game now because I wanna unlock the combat mode. It's pretty nice battle system altogether. Not for the dudes.

[tropic summit]

i thought you uninstalled

[sleek imp]

target audience : 👧🏼
Audience : 🩸

[swift mango]

Well, I spent a few hours yesterday to play the equivalent of it's abyss mode in HI3 or Genshin.

[sleek imp]

That game s gacha system is so dumb tho

[swift mango]

So pretty hooked on the combat.

[sleek imp]

Its almost always guarteened pity then you get it

[tropic summit]

i'm more surprised by the fact you guys seem knowledgable of the thing

[sleek imp]

[shell hazel]

they've all been playing it

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

rail run away to the horse game before they catch you!

[tropic summit]

unlocked the 3rd hot spring cutscene with horse grills

[shell hazel]

rail now I graduated who is your next student to win CA?

[placid bloom]

[sleek imp]

[shell hazel]

is it sopa?

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

there's no such thing

[swift mango]

I cleared up to this in one week play I guess it's good.

Checking on Reddit, many girls complain it's so hard they couldn't beat the Junior level to access to Senior difficulty even after 1-2 months.

Game is really not F2P friendly at all.

[lunar pawn]

again got 5/6 guesses right this season

[tropic summit]

now we sleep peacefully

[shell hazel]

well several of us did win it so you must have another student who is trying!

[sleek imp]

You expected the top earning gacha game to be f2p friendly , btw good progression

[placid bloom]

Blood professional LADS gamer now

he is the 6th hidden ML

[crystal flicker]

I'm cooking

[placid bloom]

[swift mango]

I had to manual and clear the junior difficulty with 1 lv40 and rest lv20 cards each round when the recommendation level was 55. It was hell to mald.

[sleek imp]

He reads BL too prob

[sleek imp]

Why you malding so hard in that game

Go work a full time and just p2w with the same time

[sleek imp]

2a works...?

[swift mango]

Well, I have limited time to play it left before I uninstall so I must mald to unlock content.

That painter keeps getting one shot on the last level of junior difficulty took me hours.

[sleek imp]

I didnt know shed work in pvp

[sleek imp]

Oh the painter

gl w that

[swift mango]

Well, I already got access to Senior difficulty so it's done.

[solid gorge]

GODDAMIT I VOTED HIM TO LOSE

[swift mango]

[solid gorge]

gg my loser border

[placid bloom]

another champion run disbeliever

we all believed in the Hippo arc

[sleek imp]

Arent we all

[swift mango]

@shell hazel looks what you did.

[sleek imp]

fails first vote everytime

[placid bloom]

heretic shall be smited

[solid gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/kasane-kasane-teto-pear-teto-meme-teto-gif-15508163395299560194

I just wanted my red border

[sleek imp]

[shell hazel]

another victim

https://tenor.com/view/anthony-adams-rubbing-hands-together-spice-adams-vyd3n-meme-man-behind-tree-meme-gif-2569343513927502347

[nimble swan]

Damn @shell hazel I lost my bet 😂
But congrats for the win! lol

[shell hazel]

thanks!

[nimble swan]

I couldn’t have thought you can win r5

[shell hazel]

no it was a bit weird but I won it all the same lol

[swift mango]

2B works

[shell hazel]

A2 2B

[nimble swan]

Lol

[sleek imp]

[shell hazel]

some more stall in my stall comp and that cindy one was a win as well. I'm working on this a bit for next CA

I thought I'd lose 4-1 or 3-2 but I guess my teams had more power than I imagined

[sleek imp]

2a is so cope now, spent 18k gems for a unit that will never be good, theb summer drop

[shell hazel]

just swipe the amex

[nimble swan]

I’ll check the replays.
You had a great run this season for sure

[shell hazel]

I need to get A2 and 2B still

[shell hazel]

yeah! I posted em on youtube also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuID4uc1-B8

and my match record (I keep a running view of how each does this way)

my scar/trina lost to a full SR-15 moran/nero stall, and my cindy lost to a SG/ros comp I think

only ones those two didn't win

3-2 on the last 4 match sets so could have gone the other way

[nimble swan]

Yeah that’s where I lost the bet, I thought your cindy team will lose against sg

[shell hazel]

cindy p5 clutched this one I think

and as rail pointed out siren just being alive enough to b1 😄

[keen vapor]

If 2B is so good then where's 2A

[sleek imp]

Can she even burst gen

slow rl type

[keen vapor]

If noise biscuit can

[sleek imp]

Oh?

biscuit is slow...?

yeah, i know nothing about those meta pvp units

[keen vapor]

Well, idk what you qualify as slow

Biscuit isn't fast clip RL for sure

[nimble swan]

Just watched the video. Cindy kinda butchered them, it wasn’t even close enough

[sleek imp]

Slow < 30% burst gen

[shell hazel]

my cindy probably has my best OL rolls tbh

[umbral belfry]

@shell hazel did you win?

[sleek imp]

[keen vapor]

Then yes

[sleek imp]

https://tenor.com/view/tag-gif-367413152327750712

[shell hazel]

she'll slaughter anyone she can 😄

[shell hazel]

yeahhh! 😄

[nimble swan]

Looks good enough lol

[sleek imp]

Oh i sea

[umbral belfry]

LETS GOOOOO

[shell hazel]

my Helm has highest CP though for some reason

[keen vapor]

You have one max ammo as well huh?

[umbral belfry]

congrats!

[shell hazel]

yeah

[sleek imp]

Hippos you are NA?

[shell hazel]

no global

[nimble swan]

Same for me lol

[sleek imp]

I need someone to friend :(

[shell hazel]

thanks Hime. I was locked in 🙂

[shell hazel]

I can add another but it basically means rolling good line 2 then line 1 on my boots

[umbral belfry]

redemption for getting screwed in league 2x

[shell hazel]

I dunno if I want to mald the helm as it's 2 good lines and no ammo lol

[shell hazel]

yeah I got the winning frame for cheer as well! 🙂

double whammy

[keen vapor]

same

[shell hazel]

how is your move going so far Hime?

I'm going to try the frame out see how I find it, I usually don't run one

[clear vessel]

Ah he changed his def

[swift mango]

I keep losing Credit because forgetting to bet or betting to lose every CA now. The worst thing recently.

[shell hazel]

I just do mine with the dailies as the reset is later anyway

[swift mango]

getting 0 rock on daily and I close app. forgetting everything.

I guess I need to move the betting to before Kraken.

[wild patio]

I am sigma

[umbral belfry]

wait, I forgot to cheer

[swift mango]

rip 6 hours credit

or 50 gem if you gem claim

[umbral belfry]

I was too busy unpacking

[swift mango]

maybe 70 if you gem claim twice a day.

[umbral belfry]

it's going okay so far! pc isn't here but I'm slowly unpacking and catching up on sleep

[shell hazel]

you'll be back up and running at full speed soon

[umbral belfry]

pc isn't here yet

[oblique ridge]

Gem claim?

[shell hazel]

it will arrive shortly

[oblique ridge]

There are gems from CA?!

Oh, wipeouts?

[swift mango]

Outposts gem claim ofc... 50 70 100 150 200 250 300 and so on

[oblique ridge]

Isn't that 2 hours of credits per, she'd have to claim three times, so 220 gems

[shell hazel]

wipe out also gives other stuff too though

[umbral belfry]

I wipeout 6x so

[coarse lake]

Tell that to my 18.1 bil that ended up not using 10/7/4 eve bc she couldn't even beat lapt

No SW comp either, that was meta too

[umbral belfry]

@shell hazel also do you have a vid of your win?

[shell hazel]

I was doing 4x (inc free one) but stepped back to just doing 3x for now, or even 2x maybe I need gems lol

[swift mango]

120 if you claim 2 a day for 4 hour credit, core and data.

So 4h credit alone is around 40 gem.

6h is around 60 gem.

[shell hazel]

ofc posted them here for everyone to see 🙂
#pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

the credit is still there, just use her later.

[coarse lake]

I might use her in the UR, but that's not a guarantee

She's like my 4th best iron assuming she even beats lapt there

[swift mango]

just spend rock on her crit and ele

[coarse lake]

She already got 40% ele

Not going for more on such a mid niche unit

If she can't get good use where she's at by next skill reset, she's giving me her books back

[shell hazel]

oh I upgraded my temp cubes from 5 => 6 on this UR, I'll see if I can do 6 => 7 on the rewards when they come in

I figure I'll need more of these long term and my resi cube is at 8 which is enough for my main campaign team for now

[swift mango]

Feast your eyes at my max out META investment in Azur Lane then.

[umbral belfry]

that t5 was so clutch LMAO I'm surprised your stall team lost, how are they looking like again?

[shell hazel]

moran was only R-15 there, I've bumped her to SR-5 by now

my LapT/Rapu not really had much done beyond basic rolls

Helm I was working on to add some more CS %

[swift mango]

@covert lintel could you screenshot me 5 pics of Hobo's team? Thank you.

[shell hazel]

I guess RNG on Cindy killing helm and lapt and me being unable to get the res back in time

[swift mango]

@worldly osprey yeah, it's 4-1 just as I thought. No surprise today.

[worldly osprey]

soda better RH luckily, soda saved me from getting a 0-5 loss

[shell hazel]

they are jackal-less so you get fed to faster burst as well

[swift mango]

Well, I predicted you win this because Jackal, not soda. But if your soda came it crutch, that good too.

[worldly osprey]

I knew that. He had a hard counter team against me

[umbral belfry]

ahh fair, either way grats

[worldly osprey]

soda stun rh so they dont have b1 to burst. i have 3 rl 21% so maybe i will burst sooner his rh

[swift mango]

yeah, ofc.

[shell hazel]

my moran team at the time of recording that comp

skills are at good levels generally

[umbral belfry]

if I fight a cindy team next ca with my stall ill let you know only differences is that my moran and rapu have sr15

[worldly osprey]

man, the worst part is blanc rapi only win once against crown. time to bring cindy back

[shell hazel]

thing is they didn't die for me there haha, so having those would help survive a bit wasn't the reason I deadge

[swift mango]

Also, if his RH burst in time your Scar would still slash before them with your CS.

[shell hazel]

I may have Rapu in wishlist for last MLB copy

what is your gear levels like just +0?

[swift mango]

That team of yours is free win for other yeah.

[umbral belfry]

mhm, I eventually plan on improving either nero or morans gears but first I'm gonna do my campaign units

bc they're also at 0

[worldly osprey]

yeah my scarlet even burst before siren’s stun

[shell hazel]

I got my main team to +3 on all slots

I'll get my core pvp to +3 as well (the ones taking direct damage anyway)

[umbral belfry]

I'm going to see how summer elegg and summer doro are first before using my fodder

[shell hazel]

I'm actually OK with building them a bit later

like even though I think doros should be good (especially if pilgrim rate and power equivalent) I can just build her down the line a bit

[umbral belfry]

fair

[shell hazel]

she won't be true pvp meta anyway I doubt it

I want my pvp squads well invested before I focus invest into random raid units

[signal hull]

Stop ruining my hopes 😠

[shell hazel]

she's b3 shotgun attacker, I guess she could be OK/clip if we're lucky

but I think we saw she wasn't?

still B3 usually don't have great burst gen if you look at like Cindy

I can pivot investments where I need anyway, I'm wanting to see how the treasures are

[umbral belfry]

summer doro not clip

[shell hazel]

yeah, I mean like SBS etc not exactly high burst gen right?

s.anis works and she isn't clip

[umbral belfry]

I'll just be happy to finally have a doro

[shell hazel]

I still kind of like using mine on random raids 😄

[signal hull]

Me too. She's decent B1 and I 3/4 OL'd her back in a day, when I was stuck for weeks on Mother Whale.

[shell hazel]

mine is on SR-5 with no OL 😄

I think I added doll mats to her early before I realised how hard it was to get em

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

She's water sg

Doesn't matter her kit, she dies when she looks at scar

[shell hazel]

she might still be decent depends how her targeting works

[coarse lake]

She's just gonna be single target sg dps

[strong hull]

Indeed

Gonna make sg team 10b run

[swift mango]

I don't think it's possible. Your soda probably stunned siren.

[worldly osprey]

soda no stun siren. scar burst then siren stun at same time

[placid bloom]

24% cs?

[coarse lake]

how much ammo is your scar

[placid bloom]

or maybe fed to 1.5RL

[worldly osprey]

200% ammo

[swift mango]

You would need near 1rl the for that possible with enough feeds I guess.

[coarse lake]

got vid?

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

I did notice some oddities with siren vs scar from my bracket's matchups yesterday

assumed it was just ammo

[shell hazel]

I won a round because siren restocked scarlet ammo 😄

[coarse lake]

how much ammo can scar have and still dodge it btw

[shell hazel]

she had below the 32 threshold at p1 but siren boosted it so my siren stunned her

[umbral crown]

Like 30?

[placid bloom]

I think it's doable with enough cs and enough feed to get like 1.4RL maybe

[worldly osprey]

it on CA season 3 or 4. in my rookie no one use siren to test

[placid bloom]

but it seems hard

[shell hazel]

you need 31 or less I think

[swift mango]

32 max

[shell hazel]

or 32

[worldly osprey]

21% on 3 clips rl

[shell hazel]

go with blood answer

[placid bloom]

tbh need frame based speed instead of RL based speed to see actual burst timing for this

but I would assume sub 1.5RL

with enemy feed

[coarse lake]

got scared for a second

didn't see frame in mail rewards, thought I somehow lost last cheer, forgot it was in missions

took me long enough

[swift mango]

B2 already need 11%. B3 that's 0.32rl slower would need 28% at least (an impossible range).

So you either burst faster thanks to

1- Feeds, p1 Cindy.
2- Siren stun.
3- Siren died to counter
4- Scar 32 or less ammo.

[placid bloom]

or game bug and RL have no wind down animation so you shoot faster, I remember seeing someone else experience this

think it was enemy HelmT

[worldly osprey]

maybe. their team is blanc + siren + emi 2rl

[swift mango]

A 2rl with HelmT 21-25% that make the burst happenned could actually wipe before scar got stun.

I experienced that before.

You still need to feel them lots for them to be 2rl after helmT hit.

[worldly osprey]

yeah iirc emi blanc siren helm and jackal

almost siren die before can stun. but he have jackal link so he not die soon. soda stun their blanc and emi iirc

[coarse lake]

nah it's working properly

33 ammo scar in my bracket, stunned basically right when she's entering cover

[worldly osprey]

yeah but my scar 60 ammo

[shell hazel]

you can run scar not at p1 to avoid siren stun, with a bit of moving stuff about

if you're 2RL and jackal is p1 then jackal will burst and get stunned after

[placid bloom]

they're on Soda so it has to be linked Soda p1

no good way to set it up otherwise

[coarse lake]

technically linked p1 trina could work if they're crazy

with p2 unlink soda

[shell hazel]

I did something like this 😄

ah it was jackal p1 and trina p2, with scarlet p4

[placid bloom]

this sound like 1 volley by BSoda tech

[shell hazel]

I could have run scarlet p2 but then trina would need to be p3, so any sg def could eat through p5/p4 more easily

this was because I was using SR anis and xmaiden, so I couldn't have them bursting

[grand plaza]

@shell hazel

[shell hazel]

ikr 😄

the guy added me to friends after but a) can't talk and b) all my friends are active so had to reject :p

[grand plaza]

I would accept it considering almost all of them random anyway but whatever

Congrats man :D

[shell hazel]

the one I beat I mean

danke danke 🙂

[umbral belfry]

nooo hippo add him

[shell hazel]

why though? lol

[umbral belfry]

rivals

[shell hazel]

but we're not in same SPA or anything

[umbral belfry]

but you'll always see each other in CA

[shell hazel]

bah hha

OK I'll add em

lmao I can't they can't accept more requests

ah well

it's weird they could send one for me given I have no slots either

[keen vapor]

😱

[placid bloom]

you can send if they have full friend list

you just can't send if they also have full request list

[keen vapor]

I only did 11b without them

[keen vapor]

D'oh

[umbral belfry]

that's stupid

[shell hazel]

thanks ghost-kun 😄

i'll see you in the shadows 🥷

[keen vapor]

I've been defeated by Eon once again

THE EVIDENCE IS GONE

you're going to do it again

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal a new challenger

did he try to bite your ankles too

[wet crystal]

And DKaze

[umbral belfry]

our ankles!

that's our job

[wet crystal]

Looks like they are not longer satisfied with vying for C3

[umbral belfry]

they're trying to take us over

[fast jetty]

💀 i guess i now get why this guy stays at top 3, wtf 3 attack

[umbral belfry]

but i would imagine we cp gap them

[wet crystal]

Sync gap too

[umbral belfry]

well those go hand in hand sort of but yes

I'll just keep watch your ankles

[wet crystal]

I see that t3 stall

[umbral belfry]

I need more testing

I can't in rookie bc cp gap

[wet crystal]

I'll record stall v stall, 2.5rl?

[umbral belfry]

is mine 2.5?

then yes

[clear vessel]

Yeah can't break through now. His investments in PvP too stronk.

[wet crystal]

Any particular comp you wanna see your stall against?

[keen vapor]

Was thinking on a solution, then remembered you didn't invest Scarlet

Well, tbh the only thing required to beat Noah team is Siren

[umbral belfry]

feel free to either do:

• stall team mana variation
• single buff scar
• double buff scar
• cindy
• blanc rh sbs

any of these are fine, i'll test whatever you want for you too about to go out with dad for a but so it might be delayed

[wet crystal]

Stall mana is my default, I'll try out the scars and sbs. I havent had issues with Cindys, want a 2rl cindy?

[umbral belfry]

sure

[clear vessel]

Which I do have, but then he has backup Biscuit

[keen vapor]

Biscuit won't be as much of a problem

[clear vessel]

I can try, then I need to rejiggle team 1

[keen vapor]

Team 1 uses siren?

[clear vessel]

Yeah

[keen vapor]

[clear vessel]

Should be ok though

Will try after reset

[keen vapor]

Emilia/Blanc/Red Hood with vigor cube/Centi/Jackal against Noise Bay

Noah/Siren/Cinderella/Biscuit/Helm against Noah SBS

Surely Siren can survive

Alternatively you can put biscuit on second placement instead of fourth

[shell hazel]

must be nice being able to test, I've been sat at SPA 1 for over 100 days now

[umbral belfry]

I remember when I was close to 100 days of defending

I was at like 98 days

[shell hazel]

like barely anyone attacks me

[umbral belfry]

but then @wet crystal said

[shell hazel]

I say 100 days but it's like 2 attacks in that time lol

[umbral belfry]

oof

[shell hazel]

I'd love to know what the guy ran who beat me 105D ago but they're nowhere near top atm

I mean it's nice and chill don't get me wrong

but I've barely had to fight for my position at all

and it's not because I out-sync everyone really, I'm not even highest sync lol

I mean I obv invested more than most which helps, and otherwise I think my top 4 is just happy to chill and get into SPA

I'm here mostly as I push campaign way more than most, me and another guy are the top and the rest are multiple chapters behind

[tropic summit]

well that's a lie

make your teams weak on purpose for 1 or 2 days in a row and you'll see how ppl will try for it

if you really wanted a fight, you can cause one

unless your ladder is sleeping 24/7 / several days in a row

[shell hazel]

I remember neko doing that

and then they had lots of issues

nah I do see em move maybe I just look scary enough

you still battling the whales Rail?

[keen vapor]

We always do Hippopotamus

[umbral belfry]

🦛

[tropic summit]

not until new chapters unlock but even then not sure i'm in range anymore

they've invested in their pvp and still hold over 60+ level advantage on near max cores

on the other hand pvp has grown stale enough for me to not be motivated to bother anymore so i'll just keep effort to the bare minimun

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

focus on Scarlet (the horse grill) instead sir

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal do you have the test results good sir

[tropic summit]

pvp has always been a side thing, you can play it for a few minutes a day unless you're gemming to the heavens

was never the focus at all

[wet crystal]

can send mana stall and 2 buff scar, one sec. waiting for reset for other tests.

[umbral belfry]

okie dok!

did you try cindy vs that?

[shell hazel]

I don't think I even do that I am mostly playing theoretical pvp 😄

[shell hazel]

you saw my def record above, I don't fight for SPA. I think I fought the most in rookie and I cracked the 2nd guys def, so I can just auto them now

[umbral belfry]

when I look down at my phone but my dad showing me around said to look up LOL

I'll check it out later, ty!

[tropic summit]

you don't fight for spa because you don't give them a chance

give them a chance and you would

although it's a shame noone is bothering even trying to de-throne you

[shell hazel]

they're in range sir

[tropic summit]

but maybe they just can't

[shell hazel]

my cp is 1.5M, top 10 is 1.3-1.4M

but they see me win CA and they give up

[tropic summit]

change your teams to weaker ones

[shell hazel]

I want them to want it 😄

[tropic summit]

then if they still don't touch you, you've the answer

[shell hazel]

I'll for now

the funky cindy/ros comp in rookie was fun though

[sleek imp]

The Crow team

[wet crystal]

Casually dishing out what has yet to happen

[shell hazel]

crow treasure

[wet crystal]

[sleek imp]

two gold in a row now Soda, apparently you guys use her in scar team to stun noah?

Worth investing early?

[umbral belfry]

wins against mana variation stall, loses to double buff scar. no surprises here ty for testing

[placid bloom]

no

[shell hazel]

you don't have res for soda yet, I don't even really lol

[sleek imp]

I see

[tropic summit]

can be used as 4/4/4 cope with little to no invest

yolo RNG for stunning the right targets although

[clear vessel]

@keen vapor You be serving some meals sir

[keen vapor]

[clear vessel]

@keen vapor also why didn't you take / keep C2 this time around?

[keen vapor]

good question

[shell hazel]

slacking

[tropic summit]

procrastinating

[keen vapor]

[clear vessel]

They're onto you Echo

[tropic summit]

we know our chickens

[sleek imp]

we spending 300 gems till that Noah stun

[keen vapor]

[wet crystal]

1 buff scar, 2rl cindy, and a slow sbs

[swift mango]

Soda is 100% stun now if soda p1-2

[tropic summit]

0OL budget soda on 4/4/4 gonna be fun to run on p1 or p2

[keen vapor]

There where tons of Soda P3 last CA season for some reason

[wet crystal]

my 3rd vid with the 1 buff scar features a soda, and I think the rapu did her stun?

[keen vapor]

That's right

[umbral belfry]

looks like vs cindy it's rng bc I've seen it win sometimes but maybe it was 3rl?

I still think it's fine vs single buff scar but soda stunned moran so no DR, so it's difficult to say

but don't gem anymore for testing unless if you want to, it's fine LOL. plus we have time

ty for testing! if you need any help testing lmk

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal also thr stall vs stall match. mayhap it is time for you to move over mana for lap

[worthy temple]

any of you got an idea how to beat this lineup?

[swift mango]

So they win against Siren in Noise+Noah+Siren+Cindy team.

40% chance to stun siren is better than 0%.

[tropic summit]

use any of the teams on the left

2RL scar-rosanna also works, as you'll cut link from moran and SBS

4th option

[keen vapor]

since when we want to stun siren on Noise Siren comp

[worthy temple]

all good, used the 4th option, thanks for the tip👍

[tropic summit]

good job

[worthy temple]

I was actually assuming at first that the lineup was kinda squishy but that kinda surprised me, guess speed w/ the right combination does beat it

[tropic summit]

it's jackal doing the heavylifting

shared damage linked units make them take 1/3rd of what they'd usually take

as they distribute the damage with each others

in your case scarlet helmt and jackal were linked and distributing damage

once the main enemy source of damage was gone (SBS), you were almost outhealing with helmT passive

[worthy temple]

good thing I had jackie maxed, tried the emilia lineup in the past but it somehow failed to kill sbs

[tropic summit]

hmm

the thing in this matchup with emi is that you'd let them burst

which means they're on noah and moran DR

that is gonna make emi nuke a tad weaker, maybe no longer lethal against a jackal linked SBS

[worthy temple]

anyway time for me to pay that top guy back, been a fodder for him for weeks

and build emilia further while on it to test that other suggested lineup

she just has crappy OL gear stats

[keen vapor]

The one that gives the most attack stat

[umbral belfry]

quantum 11

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/1Qiw8pZJIgc?si=VVQ-Kj-EQUlhHeoZ

[fast jetty]

😰 oops. didn't realize you can get sniped by redhood

what's the overall counter to blanc?

maybe noah?

or that. or is it just RNG?

[wet crystal]

7 months in and I'm only now realizing that co-op score takes your highest group score for the ranking?? and I can keep trying for a higher score even after my 3 daily hits?? bruhhh, all those co-ops I messed up

[sullen dawn]

Hello could someone help me create 3 defense teams for sp arena ?

[crystal flicker]

My stall always win against Blanc ScarBS, and suddenly they lost in the final smh

[crystal flicker]

Look what I found, natural 2.5RL

[crystal flicker]

Do you have any 18% CS on your clip RL?

[sullen dawn]

No

[tropic summit]

he has the tools for typical 2 2RL and 1 2.5RL or 3RL

xmaiden and siren being high invest makes it also easy to run scar-siren

w/e rin is cooking gonna be gud anyway

[crystal flicker]

Nah, I'm just loser

[tropic summit]

didn't know you became a comedian

[crystal flicker]

You can choose, 1st choice is 2x 2RL + Possibly 1x 2.5 RL, or the usual 2x 2RL + 1x 3RL

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-nikke-goddess-of-victory-cooking-pink-hair-meme-gif-10237899591902112492

[crystal flicker]

I lost my CA yesterday

[tropic summit]

you'll win another next time

CA is just a matter of patience waiting until the stars align

[crystal flicker]

Tbh yesterday is my best chance

[tropic summit]

won't be your last

just keep trying and trust your investiment

[sullen dawn]

Thank you so much

[crystal flicker]

I thought T1 gonna win against generic ScarBS Blanc

The result is B T T B B

[umbral crown]

But also: trust the process

[ionic rose]

LANCER NOOOO NOT AGAIN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPhbGKCPBJo

[wheat heart]

i won my first CA. thank you keripo, blood, heinrich, and many others that have helped me in here over the years.

[final blaze]

hi guys, would love to get some help regarding this one. I thought I'd win the 1st one but I'm not even sure why it's losing since I'm 3RL but any help or suggestions would be great. Currently I'm winning my 2nd one which is fine and 3rd one is toss away.

[ionic rose]

what happens when ur cinderella bursts? does rapi survive with 1 hp and u lose?

[final blaze]

hmm okay super weird I went to do it again just to remember exactly what happens but this time I won. blanc is stunned and they don't get to burst. Can Siren's stun miss/whiff? or maybe my cinderella burst was really bad luck and literally everything hit blanc since its random

[keen vapor]

[ionic rose]

lol yeah it could happen, since biscuit makes blanc invincible for 3 seconds

[gritty ridge]

This is ridiculous

[ionic rose]

ur siren should always stun blanc successfully tho

[ionic rose]

lmao those two hate u

[gritty ridge]

I was in number 2, but now im in 9th

<@&946725432554836008>

[final blaze]

lol damn, i spent the longest time trying to figure out. RNG was my nemesis

[crystal flicker]

Everyone winning and I'm alone losing

[stuck hearth]

oh dang. i keep getting stuck in your champion bracket. im gonna pray i dont get paired against you when i make it out of brackets.

[umbral belfry]

grats!

[spiral onyx]

I still need to win a few more times to secure the rank 1 position

[stuck hearth]

glgl. i pray not to roll into you. again

[worthy sorrel]

grats on the 3peat!

[crystal flicker]

Gold frame nice too, can flex to my bracket

[stuck hearth]

So in terms for pvp. does everyone spend all their custom modules to blue roll into perfect sub stats every character or just roll until its 3/3 substats? im trying not to die early next CA

[broken wharf]

I didnt know this... a little over a year playing this lol

[broken wharf]

you should think about not being so high in ranking. maybe sit in 5th or 6th place so you dont become such an obvious target. Its what I do and I end up 3rd or 4th by end of season. Its smart not to use all your daily attempts

[gritty ridge]

Ill be back in 2nd by tmr

Also rookie arena doesnt really matter

[broken wharf]

lol yeah Im certainly not the best on my server. Theres one account that basically decides our fates. Gotta hide behind some cover sometimes

no, not really. Plus we cant even see who ends up where when the season ends. kinda sucks

[crystal flicker]

This means I need to get more ATK on Cindy

[broken wharf]

my server is pretty competitive.

[gritty ridge]

Have you considered that they're just unbelievably invested

[stuck hearth]

Im curious. how is special arena def usually determined? What would determine if I can prevent some players around my level from winning every atk phase?

trying to get this annoying fly to just not take every place i get into every 3 min.

[gritty ridge]

Its all about what they attack with

[stuck hearth]

So legit i cant do anything team building wise to just prevent it?

[gritty ridge]

You cant make a perfect defense, theres a counter for every team

[stuck hearth]

well thats discouraging. how do whales get away with staying in 1st and 2nd place then?

[broken wharf]

oh god...

[gritty ridge]

Cp gap

Cp is the deciding factor in quite alot of matches in sp/rookie

[crystal flicker]

And this for the Stall vs Blanc, idk Nero die so fast

[stuck hearth]

well shit if thats the case, then what packages are good for increasing my cp gap? Ill spend to get better placements for PvP

[gritty ridge]

[gritty ridge]

Got targeted by laplace, + ele disadvantage

[crystal flicker]

Nero is Fire

[gritty ridge]

Oh I thought i saw electric

Bad resolution when I zoom

[gritty ridge]

Core dust packages for the most part

[stuck hearth]

if this is you, you dont have to seriously take 3rd back 5 min to reset everyday. I already fighting 4,5,6th

[broken wharf]

I get it. My server is sweaty, so i dont mind lol. I find it to be fun. lol

[placid bloom]

everything adds enough CP if you buy enough of it, but nothing is enough if you're on a limited budget

[stuck hearth]

so custom packages are mandatory when they up. 170 an event on pure core dusts.... i might finance it for a few upcoming CA

[placid bloom]

you'd need high core count and higher sync to be untouchable

[gritty ridge]

Dust and rocks probably best if cp gain is all youre going for

[keen vapor]

😭

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal

[keen vapor]

It's pain !!!!

[gritty ridge]

If I get a good bracket next spa I should make challenger

[umbral belfry]

in my defense I'm whaling less bc moving and hsr

[broken wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-mgs-cyborg-ninja-fatalistic-make-me-feel-alive-again-gif-18137106

[placid bloom]

I don't think we getting another shuffle for like 2 months

you'd just need people to quit

[sleek imp]

Damn Quiry?

[umbral belfry]

bye guys I'm putting for hsr

[sleek imp]

Yall really playing weird comp

[broken wharf]

"Nikke is bad. Shift Up is sucks" *uploads video

[wet crystal]

whales simply spend

[umbral belfry]

[wet crystal]

I'm not getting lucky with my gear grind smh

[umbral belfry]

I haven't played bc my pc isn't here yet :(

and I don't wanna play on phone bc then I can't see my mods

[wet crystal]

yup, same, I'm used to my mods

[crystal flicker]

I should win that match up

[wet crystal]

I can't see stelle without her ponytail anymore

[umbral belfry]

do you use the 2b stelle too

[sleek imp]

sweaty players

[gritty ridge]

Oh thats even better

[sleek imp]

I will never understand such meta

wait why Naga

[gritty ridge]

I was just worried abt better players coming to my bracket, if I keep same bracket i can make ca no problem

[stuck hearth]

dont say that, im spending more than 3k crystals a week to even play CA LOL

[sleek imp]

SBS/Blanc duo didnt kill moran is unfortunate

[wet crystal]

mixed mod, combined a face, hair, and body mod (thicc ofc)

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-black-zamasu-handshake-hug-gif-21656847

[crystal flicker]

It seems that I lose because la+ additional damage

[umbral belfry]

I never tried combining mods before though

[placid bloom]

yeah if it was just SBS you can tank it, I don't think you can tank SBS + XMaid + LapT

not under Blanc at least

[wet crystal]

never thought I'd download and use paint.net either lol (for small edits)

[umbral belfry]

[crystal flicker]

The funny thing is I might win if I burst with HelmT

[placid bloom]

probably, I don't think Quiry worth bursting tbh

[crystal flicker]

She's goated against Noah comp

If you burst with HelmT, you'll get no heal coz no Life Steal go trough Noah

[wet crystal]

what if you use a 2rl soda to stun moran and nero?

[placid bloom]

Soda won't get taunted that early

since Moran is either last bullet or on B1

[wet crystal]

[placid bloom]

and Nero taunt is also on B2 cast

[umbral belfry]

cough cough go the lap way cough cough

I would say xmaid but

[umbral crown]

[placid bloom]

I mean with Soda you always have a chance to win

but you have equal chance to lose

[crystal flicker]

I found this, that Champion comp against Nero Moran La+

[placid bloom]

guess core difference

oh wait no it's no Quiry

you can just go no Quiry and pray your Moran can tank Cinderella

feel like Cinderella team is actually not that high in damage after B3

their autos not actually that strong

[umbral belfry]

folian look

it's time to retire mana

[wet crystal]

can mihara's dot outdps the heal of the stall?

[placid bloom]

not if it's not revive Mihara

she won't have FB multiplier and s2 sus dmg increase

[wet crystal]

mana's getting pushed out of all contents

[placid bloom]

but revive sac Mihara is already kinda sus

you wasting Rosanna to gamble

on whether Mihara dies fast enough

[crystal flicker]

Yeah, I'm replacing Quiry with La+

[umbral belfry]

u see that folian

[wet crystal]

can a nuke Ein deal with stalls? true dmg, not sure how it is in arena

[crystal flicker]

Only RH + Blanc buffed Ein

[umbral belfry]

same with sbs no?

[crystal flicker]

Yes

[placid bloom]

no, because true damage only ignores Def. It does not ignore dmg reduc

[wet crystal]

but my dbl rez (fun to see when it works)

[placid bloom]

same reason Ein can't one-shot glasses since their hitcount shield is dmg reduc

[umbral belfry]

okay get ready for the zap

I might need to put tempura on my lap bc she's so squishy

but I only have 3 slots

[wet crystal]

I'm now officially stage 6 in all interception and 8 on kraken, and still using Ein on MC

[umbral belfry]

Pve goon

[placid bloom]

[wet crystal]

gonna get that quanta 7 after union rewards 😄

then I guess tempura for 4 slots, and aim for resilience and bastion 9... no, forever... I think.. ig

[umbral belfry]

forever

oh right I need do dailies

changing timezones made me so sleepy lately

[wet crystal]

Oh yea, I was looking for healers while making scrap teams and Yuni's continuous healing from doing damage is interesting

if I recall she's a low burst gen tho, but has she ever been viable stall team wise?

[wet crystal]

takes me 3-4 days to adjust

[crystal flicker]

We got Poli and Bay Treasure, they might viable for CA

[umbral crown]

Just if having blanc and RH as buffers

[crystal flicker]

Bay has always been Noah budget, while Poli has been used for SG comp

If they make Bay shield to tank Cindy burst, then she'll be PvP meta

[umbral crown]

Bay already tank cindy burst

[crystal flicker]

Only half

[umbral crown]

[wet crystal]

all I know is that rng likes to match my cindy team to bay teams, and my nukes gets eaten all the time

[crystal flicker]

I'll get the mats from coop pay

[umbral crown]

Like me before... my Ein team was always facing noah + biscuit teams

[crystal flicker]

My Moran team was always facing Blanc ScarBS teams

[umbral crown]

Now ein team facing SG Rosa teams

[wet crystal]

makes me wonder how the matching algorithm works...

[umbral crown]

RNG at its best

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

@clear vessel I'm at deficit

[umbral crown]

Cp issues

[keen vapor]

My Noah my worst enemy

[umbral crown]

Is your noah 100k cp

[keen vapor]

156k

[umbral belfry]

@keen vapor bully shake them

[umbral crown]

Give her more love

[keen vapor]

Noah the strongest shield

[umbral crown]

Indeed, also No.1 in cp

[keen vapor]

I'll try at deficit

[umbral crown]

For 20 levels should not be be hard but also investment issues

[knotty fern]

feels wasted if not in ca

[umbral crown]

Im.always in CA but she was like that before CA was released

[knotty fern]

is the difference minor

from 4 to 10

[umbral crown]

Have not really checked the different in % but max skill really does its job

All my tanks besides Bay are max skill

And all pvp units max doll

[keen vapor]

@clear vessel good news

[umbral crown]

See, always follow hime. A bit of deficit can not stop you

[keen vapor]

@umbral belfry I got close ngl

[umbral crown]

The fun just lasted 25 mins that night and never again

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

Again to 3 months waiting for his new cook

[umbral belfry]

bully shake worked

[keen vapor]

Thank you for believing on me Hime

[keen vapor]

Malogro doesn't answer so he doesn't knows that he must attack on my command in like 10 hours

[mortal ivy]

question, whats a good team to counter this?

we're the same lvl

[keen vapor]

Copy but replace Noise with Siren

Siren makes defs useless

[mortal ivy]

uh do biscuit and jackal need to be decently built? started dumping a bunch of mats into noise like 2 days ago Tu T

[oblique ridge]

Unless the enemy pvp invested or was careful to avoid Siren stun from preventing Noah invincible, it's usually easily done in by a 2RL team with your own Noah invincible + strong AoE nuke or highest Atk nuke . Like Echo suggested.

I'm actually somewhat fond of using Noah + Siren + HelmT3 and just let HelmT3 blow up the enemy carry. Configure the rest of the team to achieve 2RL or w/e works for victory. This is attack team only stuff though. For defense, you get countered by the very same thing because the attacker can just reposition to avoid Siren stun while forcing your Noah to shoot and taunt their Siren.

[keen vapor]

They don't really need skill levels, only high level overload lines so don't worry

[mortal ivy]

i would need to sort out jackal and biscuit gear (haven't paid PVP much mind but this guy keeps dragging my points into a bloody hole)

[umbral crown]

To be 425 cp not that high but i guess you still have a chance, give a try of what echo suggested, also remember rookie you can attack back before reset and make him lose more points

[clear vessel]

I was playing other games

If I attack now though I lose my last stam and then he still has one more. Unless he attacks you once I can't get C3 until tomorrow

Can't/shouldn't

Oh thats what you meant, in about 10 hours, yayaya

[mortal ivy]

this worked

gotta invest more in jackal and biscuit but yh

thanks o. o/

[tribal nebula]

Hello everyone, i need your help to beat this guy 😅

Only my stall team win

[oblique ridge]

Do you have Siren?

[tribal nebula]

Yep

[oblique ridge]

If you do, you've got a bunch of options to mess with one of their teams

[oblique ridge]

Got Cinderella?

[oblique ridge]

Tbh what happens if you use Noise in p1? Is she dead? I'm not saying go try now, just if you know already?

[tribal nebula]

I got all nikke except X-anne

I will try

[oblique ridge]

Don't

[tribal nebula]

Lol

[oblique ridge]

One sec

I'm fairly sure you can beat 3rd team

But I'm checking speeds

[tribal nebula]

My team wipe before burst

I replaced Laplace with Emilia

[oblique ridge]

Too late? 👀

[tribal nebula]

And use noise in p1

[oblique ridge]

This was enemy team

[tribal nebula]

Yup

[oblique ridge]

This is the team for you I was thinking of Deleted because Cinderella was in wrong spot

Actually, move Cinderella right once

[tribal nebula]

I will try now

[oblique ridge]

This is the team for you I was thinking of

[tribal nebula]

Ok

[oblique ridge]

Just

Who is linked?

Because I just saw that you dolled your Centi too. So is it Noah that gets linked to Jackal? 👀 If yes, perfect

Otherwise we have a problem

[oblique ridge]

I hope you didn't try yet

[tribal nebula]

Nop

[oblique ridge]

I'm tired and I think I messed up

Okay, one sec let me fix it

First, we need to find out who's linked, but nevermind that, I have a better idea

This is more correct. Because, I forgot enemy Scarlet has a Siren on her team

And, your Noise is surely linked, she is Supporter class

The others are all Defender. So, you should win with this rather easily. Enemy team will feed you 21.3% burst gen, you will be 2RL

[tribal nebula]

Jackal link with noise or noah no ? (P1 or P2) Dolls are important ?

Sure ? I can try ?

[oblique ridge]

Yes, this team is up against enemy team 3 (Scarlet Jackal team)

If your stall team wins and lost nobody from it to move to team 3, then that's the 2 wins you need

[tribal nebula]

Siren silence p1 on the team ?

[oblique ridge]

You can only lose if Scarlet murders your team in under 3.6 seconds with basic attacks and counterattacks (that's about the time of 2.5RL, which is around when your Noah will burst)

[oblique ridge]

Yes. After fighting for about 3.6 seconds she stuns p1

It's about 2.5RL speed that Siren casts her stun on her target

[tribal nebula]

Ok thx i try now

[oblique ridge]

So, when you burst at 2RL speed, Noah is almost about to burst at 2.5RL, but Siren beats her to it and stuns her

[tribal nebula]

Ok i won ! Thank you a lot ☺️

[tribal nebula]

I really need to understand RL mechanic

Thks again Juratus 😉 👍

[oblique ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-movie-coins-hedgehog-ring-gif-16372435

Someone needs to replace that with a Doro, and the rings should be rocks

[quartz rover]

Is my team favored?

yeah. it was. alice got melted

[oblique ridge]

This team is probably their pve power padded team (I'm guessing 4 of their units are, Emma isn't), so your pvp team being roughly equal to their power meant gg

[whole pawn]

am I the only one who can't open spa? I m clicking on it and nothing changes, however when I click on rookie, it does open , is this some bug?

[toxic stratus]

Hello Community! I hope you can help me. I have recently lost my place in the top 20 (Special) and top 10 (Rookie) in the Arena. I think my teams are just not up to date anymore. Last time you helped me with this and I hope I can count on you again. Can you help me out a team for Rookie and Special (Atk&Def)? Thank you in advance!

[oblique ridge]

Was it open for you before? It has to be unlocked, idk what's going on though

[whole pawn]

I m clicking on it and nothing changes

I keep clicking and clicking and it doesn't send me to spa

I also tried to repair the game and cleared cache, nothing changes

can't even do pvp in this game

[oblique ridge]

You can try this for Rookie defense or attack, I guess. It's an option you can use until it doesn't work anymore or find better comps.

It can lose to not doing enough AoE nuke dmg from Cindy, because there's nothing buffing Cindy dmg.

What it has going for it is Noah invincible, and the fact that Jackal and/or Noah will get Biscuit invincible too.

And if, by some miracle, your team makes it to 2nd Full Burst cycle, it'll burst unless Jackal's dead.

There's a small possibility Jackal survives that long, if Jackal procs Biscuit invincible twice.

[tardy canopy]

That Quantum wanted to smash a wall, FR broh? C'mon, you play as long as me (he broke the lv 160 wall when I also did), used cheap tactics to make weak commander attack you (put a lv1 Nikke in the team, previously), now higher synchro level because probably used all crates to lv up, but less than half of my power level

[urban mulch]

his team just looks kinda troll

either doesnt know how to play the game or he never updated the defense team

[tardy canopy]

He updated it after passing the lv 160 wall, but since then it's always the same. Maybe he puts a weak team on purpose to not let understand what's his attack team (they do that on special arena), but I doubt it's his case

[urban mulch]

idk i think spoofing atk team is kinda dumb anyways, if you have the units and built you can always work around defense teams regardless

[wind kelp]

Well, can't blame pvp for not being consistent

[urban mulch]

you guys are fairly obsessed with each other huh

[covert lintel]

@swift mango

[wind kelp]

I don't think many others are fighting for the 4th atm, so it just goes back and forth 😄 No gems used, just daily wiishwoosh.

[shell hazel]

funny thing is guy in 5th could get 4th if they sit there as you swap it around 😄

due to how points are earned with time in rank

[foggy smelt]

hi! im only 1 week in, could i please get some help for an arena team? thanks 🙏

[shell hazel]

this is the only team you can make

give quantum to jackal when you get it

[foggy smelt]

what is quantum?

[shell hazel]

for the other team(s) just send your highest cp nikkes

this is probably your best rookie team

wishlist the main pvp units if you want to do well in it btw

anyone with a highlighted row on the left

helm, trina, centi etc

oh not to forget some of the pvp meta units that aren't high burst gen like Cinderella and Scarlet (other one).
can also include units like Rosanna/Moran/Bay/Nero

[foggy smelt]

would any of this change if i just pulled rapi redhood

[shell hazel]

no but that is an absolute win in terms of your campaign power

Rapi RH is the best b3 in the game so gg

[foggy smelt]

ok ty so still use RH over rapi RH

[shell hazel]

she's more PVE meta

yeah we take RH here because she is low feed (Sniper Rifle) and her b1 is a large attack buff

you can use Rapi in a 2nd SPA team as your main B3 because likely you'll be investing in her for campaign

also RH in that team acts as a backup of all burst types

if blanc dies? no problem RH can b2

if everyone else is dead? she can do em all lol

btw push campaign as a priority over pvp atm - I say this because the more resources you get from outpost the better

you can do well in pvp with just high combat power pve units as well - being ahead of your opposition in campaign helps you stay ahead on levels and power

some units have good dual use like RH and Helm treasure 🙂

[foggy smelt]

what does SPA stand for

[shell hazel]

special arena

it's a 3 team arena you unlock at some point, where if you do well you get good gem income

top 1-3 get 3000 gems / 2 weeks

that above would be a good team to run for 1, you kind of lack units for 2/3 😄

[foggy smelt]

for the 2nd and 3rd SPA, can i just use the auto button?

[shell hazel]

yes you may as well with the units you have for now

you won't start near the top but you can work up, and knowing what units to use where comes with time/experience

use this to help you see what speeds are like, the units at the bottom are generally sorted by burst gen good => bad
https://nikke-deck.web.app/

some you won't have/can't get, but put your units in and you can get a feeling for how well they burst.
1 RL is about 1 second speed, so 100% 3RL is about 3 seconds to burst

2RL is considered fast, 3RL normal, 4RL kind of iffy, and anything slower is basically not going to burst

beyond that it's unit types, positioning etc, which again is kind of time to learn and experience. if you want to see how the matches go worth actually watching them instead of quick battle as well

[patent flame]

Hey guys, any team suggestions for Special arena? I wanted a squad with Red Hood, one with S Anis, and I have no clue what to do with the third one, also does Little Mermaid skill work on PvP? Seen few people use her there.

Also only missing K, Arcana and Sora but I assume those aren't important?

[graceful grotto]

Better show your box, cause pvp relies on CP as well so we know which units you have invested and what not, not just what unit you have

Also, missing k arcana and sora are fine, they're not meta definite for pvp

Show your box, sort by CP

[patent flame]

👍

Was gonna invest on Rumani and Trina soon.

I remember Flora being a must too?

[graceful grotto]

Flora? That's a @calm gull and @strong hull thing lolol

[patent flame]

Oh

[calm gull]

she's mine

[copper creek]

people just nut to flora but her kit has very little actually useful

[graceful grotto]

I'll say

Scarlet Trina Red Hood Centi Jackal

Blanc Sanis Biscuit Rapunzel Emilia (can use Moran instead of Blanc once u invested on her)

Noise Noah Cindy HelmT Rumani

[patent flame]

I see thanks a bunch for the help!

Also isn't having Scarlet on a side risky? Ik she is a glass cannon but still. 🤔

[graceful grotto]

Trina and Jackal link protects her so she's good

[patent flame]

Oh okies, good to know

[graceful grotto]

If you have too large of a CP gap, can let us know, then we will have to see alternative built, cause I can see majority of the higher CP u have are more pve orientated

[strong hull]

I like flora but unfortunately she cant be cooked

[graceful grotto]

You can also consider

Noise Noah HelmT LapT Rumani for more CP padding, since your lapT is quite built

[patent flame]

Yeah I been more focused on that lately.

As for the Rookie Arena, it's no biggie since the rank doesn't matter that much but I been using this:
Noah, Biscuit, Red Hood, Jackal, Noise

Oh and yeah my TLaplace is max invested. xD

[swift mango]

Thanks

[patent flame]

Like, lv 5 overgear and lv 10 skills.

I love silly Matis.

[umbral crown]

Trying hobo cook next season?

[graceful grotto]

Sad Maxwell noise, being the only Matis not having fav item

[swift mango]

You could. I wouldn't.

[umbral crown]

Nah, my cooks must have Ein

[graceful grotto]

[swift mango]

Next year then

[graceful grotto]

But honestly, she prolly becomes another SW but with the ability to buff off burst

[swift mango]

She already is

[wise horizon]

T1: Noah/Biscuit/Cinderella/HelmT/Rumani
T2: Scarlet/Rosanna/Trina/Centi/Jackal
T3: Emilia/Blanc/RH/Anis/DrakeT

Plan was to skip T1
Use:
Noise/Noah/Cinderella/HelmT/Rumani against T2
Scarlet/LaplaceT/Trina/Centi/Jackal against T3.
T2 didnt work out unfortunately though. any suggestions?

[tropic summit]

focus on T2 and T3, T3 in particular is punishable by forcing a RH B3 or killing both altogether pre burst, you're also getting free feed to 2RL even if you're 3RL

T2 is a no brain, just deal with the glass cannon with anti nuke (you can go for bay alternative aswell if you wanna save noah)

a bay alternative with laplaceT instead of rosanna if you're rosanna short

what you expecting on T3 by forcing a RH B3

indoms will run out at near same time, your p4 or p3 will finish her off, if you go rosanna approach you may be killing both at B1

3RL blanc against 2RL scarlet also has a chance of dying pre burst via sheer s2, depending on her cores and if running temperance

take the best approach with w/e CP and units available in your box

on the offchance you want to deal with T1, it's a noah in p1 so you can use siren to prevent noah B2 alltogether and run scarlet nuke or cinderella nuke on 2RL (you'll need anti nuke bay or noah or at least a moran/noise B1 to survive the exchange)

[keen vapor]

@clear vessel ok he logged once so he won't WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON C3 this is why I didn't wanted to attack him on the first place yesterday

[clear vessel]

Forcing you to take your rightful place in C2

[keen vapor]

I FELL ON YOUR TRAP

https://tenor.com/view/yuko-yoshida-shamiko-machikado-mazoku-jumping-mad-gif-14615738

How dare you how dare you how dare you how dare you how dare you how dare you

[clear vessel]

Well excuuuuuse me for wanting you to perform to your full potential

[potent mural]

Hey fellas which cube should I give Trina? Vigor or Healing? Same with Blanc. Can't decide which one might end up coming more handy (Vigor is 1 lv higher tho)

[keen vapor]

I would use vigor since they generally end up on second placement and need to tank a little

Later on you can switch to Tempering cube when you unlock it

[potent mural]

Oh I have tempering too but it's 1 lv lower than vigor (just like the healing cube)

[keen vapor]

5? 4?

[potent mural]

6

Vigor is 7

[keen vapor]

[potent mural]

Yea I barely used those cubes so that's why I didnt know which one to choose

[keen vapor]

I would Tempering still

(and level it up to 7)

We're on a union raid after all

[potent mural]

Yup

Most of the RL units use Quantum from what I seen

Mmm in RH case I'll prolly go Resi just like on PvM.

[keen vapor]

Yeah I use it too

[potent mural]

Ok so Tempering on Blanc too? Still need 50 batteties to lv it up to 7 tho.

[keen vapor]

Yes

[potent mural]

Since Biscuit and Rapunzel also act as support I assume they use it as well, or should I give them Quantum to build burst faster since they are RL users?

Right there's Noise too lol.

Gave the adjutant to Noah and Rumani, not nuff spaces for the Quantum cube. 😔

Meh, gave adjutant to Biscuit and Tempering to Rapunzel and Noise at the end.

[ionic rose]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-i-am-here-shamiko-momo-machikado-mazoku-gif-14789138

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

They need to tank as well, yeah

[covert lintel]

His team 1&5 always lost, don't copy it

[ionic rose]

Ganbare Echo! Become a demon that can take first place!

[keen vapor]

Narrator-san

[swift mango]

I'm not, don't worry.

Good to know

[wary prawn]

SP Arena team recommendations?

[keen vapor]

Why is Red Hood so low

She could never fall off not even on her own element

[wary prawn]

only got her very recently😭

shes been avoiding me for a year

[keen vapor]

Oh very good then