pvp-arena

[umbral crown]

owo

OG scar treasure

[swift mango]

I mean either her treasure or a new unit that related to her next event.

[umbral crown]

maybe

[swift mango]

Good ending

[umbral belfry]

I just assumed it was SW due to her appearance in the event

[quartz rover]

I was told you guys could cook? any help?

forgot to post the updated one

[crystal flicker]

3rd team auto

and put them to sync

[quartz rover]

alright, thank you

do I do it for attack and defense? sorry if thats a dumb question

[loud sonnet]

[umbral crown]

Combine for kits

[umbral crown]

So many kits there...

If you lacking some SR15 you know the answer

[crystal flicker]

Yes, until you get more Nikkes

[quartz rover]

I was dumb and have synchro on cooldown for 3 hours before I can add the lvl 1s

[umbral crown]

happens, just do it when you have the chance

[gritty ridge]

OK so, deficit bad, especially bigger

Can somebody explain how this happened

[crystal flicker]

He might use different comp tho
But for that specific match up, Noah Invincible tank basic attack and RH just return the favor

They ain't gonna burst anyway

[gritty ridge]

Ill attack tmr and see how it goes

[gritty ridge]

They burst slow?

Oh bad gen I see

[crystal flicker]

No normal RL no SG

[gritty ridge]

If thats the comp they used im assuming my siren stunned their siren

If I can beat them thats helpful cuz they're always rank 1

[swift mango]

Check pin and invested

[swift mango]

Where is raven?

[quartz rover]

She's hiding in her banner

[quick lake]

-# In the trashcan

[swift mango]

Rossana, Rapipi, Privaty Maid and Eve need skill investment. Especially Rossanna skill 2.

... Your account is still very new, so just learn the rope by checking the burst gen Excel and internet guide to understand how arena works.

[quartz rover]

what's the #rl on that screenshot?

[swift mango]

It's the burst speed of the team. The lower the better. Rossana skill 2 helps with Burst gen, no accounted for in the calculator ofc.

[fiery parcel]

@swift mango im voting for you . Please beat my SPA group winner

[swift mango]

Thanks

[quartz rover]

I just got a moran, would she replace anything in there?

[swift mango]

Replace DKW or Yan, then move to p1

[fiery parcel]

@swift mango need help. @graceful grotto helped me with this setup

But. My CP is a bit weak

[fiery parcel]

My arena is about 200k more. The top 2 are 2.2 and 2.4M

[swift mango]

Show box here... Why ask on team building? We have @tropic summit, @umbral crown, @keen vapor here.

[fiery parcel]

I can bump up 9 levels from cored dust hoarding

[swift mango]

It's more about your investment on your nikke than level

[fiery parcel]

Oh, because @graceful grotto was there

[graceful grotto]

no team building shaming

we sounds like clan now lmao

[swift mango]

It's like asking for Solo raid team in Arena chat.

[graceful grotto]

oh come on, u can come up with SR team too

[swift mango]

Maybe Thien would cook here. Sometime.

[graceful grotto]

oh raid apologems are here

[graceful grotto]

what's the C3 defense like?

is the spot being targetted often?

[fiery parcel]

Wait. Need to pay 100 gem to see

[umbral crown]

[fiery parcel]

I got to c3 this morning at 6am

Then got smacked down to c7 now

[fiery parcel]

Yes. Hot spot

[graceful grotto]

normally try to only use your attack past 10pm - 12am

[swift mango]

You need to show box your box so I could see if we could improve your CP.

[fiery parcel]

Nobody touching the first 2 spots. CP gap too huge.

[graceful grotto]

cause the players can fight each other and u swoop in later kewk

[fiery parcel]

Yeah. After tonight

Reset

Let me pay the 100 gems

Get u the ss

[swift mango]

With this CP forget team building, they would just auto team you.

[graceful grotto]

oh

i can go up to 399 now, almost there

[graceful grotto]

^

like i said, u need around 650k - 700k now

[fiery parcel]

4th place

I can beat 4th place

Still under the 15% deficit

[graceful grotto]

man why is ur cp that low? ur units are pretty well invested no?

[fiery parcel]

It's just that i cant hold the spot

[graceful grotto]

i rmb ur dps are like high ele%

[fiery parcel]

I have no idea

[swift mango]

Just copy the rank 1-50.

[graceful grotto]

all are cube-equipped right?

[fiery parcel]

Team 1 - jackal, xmaiden and trina are 4 x OL

[graceful grotto]

ur pvp units

[fiery parcel]

Yes

I just got 1 extra cube slot for temper

[swift mango]

600k is enough for his synch to not be CP gapped

[fiery parcel]

All pvp are at least 4 x OL (Lvl 0), with SR 5 doll except centi and moran

[graceful grotto]

it's fine, centi don't need SR5

[fiery parcel]

Who are 4 x t9m

[graceful grotto]

if u plan to be more sweaty in pvp, you will want SR15 scar

[fiery parcel]

Scarlet is built.

Minus the SR15 doll

Trying to get mmast up to sr15 first

[swift mango]

Helm: lock line 2 and roll for line 3 if you wanted CP pad.

Amour: Reroll 1 rock for line 3 or ATK.

Arm, boots: lock line 3 and roll for ATK.

Try to get 2 ATK line at least.

So pick a way

[graceful grotto]

actually scarlet in pvp kinda wants more attck and mammo hahaha

[fiery parcel]

Ah shit

[swift mango]

30 ammo is actually optimal

[graceful grotto]

yeah

especially with trina it's enough

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

I have 3 Ammo lines, might need to roll off 2. Thank good they are line 1

[umbral crown]

waos

lucky

[graceful grotto]

wish i could say the same about mine lmao

[fiery parcel]

So how do i bump up my CP? Why is the gap so much?

Is it because OL lines are crap?

[swift mango]

My helm has blue line ammo too

[keen vapor]

Yes

[graceful grotto]

let me see through your box again, maybe can work smth with more cp

[umbral crown]

OL lines, skill and cores

dolls also but depends if your focus is pve or pvp

[fiery parcel]

Oh man. That's a lot of nikkes

[umbral crown]

yeah

for example your progress in pve, as your name shows is nice

meanwhile i went all in pvp but stucked in 23-30 hard for now

[graceful grotto]

bro pve progress exposed

btw i just SR15 raven, man i really drop the balls on this girl

[umbral crown]

im sync 390 with 2.281m in sp tho

[fiery parcel]

Who should i ss? Priority on pvp playables?

[graceful grotto]

2.281m in defense?

[umbral crown]

yes

[graceful grotto]

that's sweaty af lol

i'm at 2m @ sc 195

[umbral crown]

all my units max doll and most of them max skill

760,766 and 749

[sleek imp]

was challenger 4 this reset, now im- diamond 4?

[umbral crown]

you could focus on scar, cinderella, HelmT

[graceful grotto]

i'm like 61, 65, 71

[umbral crown]

no bad

[graceful grotto]

prolly should start dolling up my units lmao, i only Sr15 dps

[umbral crown]

your defenders and supports would love some doll investment

[graceful grotto]

emilia, helm, cindy, scar, lapT, draT, sanis

maybe i'll start with blanc

[umbral crown]

noah also

[graceful grotto]

how much u skill up noah?

[umbral crown]

10-10-10

[graceful grotto]

jessssssssusssss

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

thye also have OL lv5

[graceful grotto]

helmT if u wanna reroll for OL, it's damn sweaty @fiery parcel

[graceful grotto]

don't spam like this mate

[umbral crown]

waos

[graceful grotto]

we won't go through them 1 b 1

[fiery parcel]

Sorreyy

Thats all btw

[graceful grotto]

can do this if u prefer to show all

[fiery parcel]

Yeah, but it wont show individual OL lines

[umbral crown]

its ok you can works on them at your pace

[graceful grotto]

yeah

like me having to rework on rapipi now, gonna spend hella lot of rocks

[umbral crown]

blabla shows updated cp?

[graceful grotto]

not including cubes i think

[marble musk]

Whats currently the best rookie defense team?

[graceful grotto]

imo, scarlet / blanc / helmT / Emilia / Jackal

an indo scar is a huge red flag to go against

[umbral crown]

actually there is not best defense cuz it will depends on your investments and in rookie mostly all teams can be defeated but usually 2 RL comps are fine there.

[fiery parcel]

Ok that's all of them

[umbral crown]

i like your ein

[graceful grotto]

oh u didnt have a lot of copies too

[fiery parcel]

Yeah

Not a lot of dupes

[umbral crown]

muds did you send your nikkes shorte by power in horizontal mode?

[sleek imp]

okay back to chal 4, time to

[umbral crown]

sopa cooking

[sleek imp]

0 cook, pure gems

[umbral crown]

owo

[marble musk]

Any suggestions based on this?

[sleek imp]

thats a crazy invested roster

[graceful grotto]

what's ur current defense?

[fiery parcel]

Full roster?

Wait

Here we go

[swift mango]

Blabla CP isn't reliable tbh but good to know

[fiery parcel]

Bla2 doesnt include cube

[marble musk]

Been running this forever but, I feel like i could od better

[umbral crown]

could be Noise/Noah/Cinderella/HelmT/Jackal

oh similar of what you using, let me give you something different

[marble musk]

Swtching out for Cindy gives me 1329396cp

[graceful grotto]

that's some sweaty cp

u can opt for something weird like

Noise / HelmT / Scarlet / Jackal / Noah

[swift mango]

I mean it counts wrong sometimes, even exclude cube

[umbral crown]

oh, give a try and see how it goes

[swift mango]

And late to update changes

[umbral crown]

true that

weird teams tend to win most of the time

[marble musk]

🫡 Ill switch between the two then

[umbral crown]

i sometimes do weird teams in rookie and my only hitter fails 1 or 2 but thats a win for me

if anything feel free to ask anytime here

even blood gonna cook

[marble musk]

I only have one guy hitting me and itd be nice if I have a team that he just cant kill cus of cp diff or he cant finda team to beat otlol

[umbral crown]

similar sync?

[marble musk]

Hes ;ole 50 levels behind me i think

[umbral crown]

whats your cp with auto team?

[marble musk]

I have to wait until he shows up since the thing just reset

[umbral crown]

1.5m?

[marble musk]

Close

[graceful grotto]

this is the defense?

wtheck is this Solo Raid Team lmao

[marble musk]

Its my auto team

[graceful grotto]

ooh, i was confused for a moment

[marble musk]

Rosy wanted to see my auto cp lol

[umbral crown]

pve moment

[graceful grotto]

ur dorothy is ur highest cp b1? damnnnn

[umbral crown]

wait till it shows your rivals cp

[marble musk]

Yeah, technically it would be redhood but yeah

[umbral crown]

what if you change jackal for laplace?

1.4?

[marble musk]

The guy that keeps atking me is the wisemann, his sync is 507 atm

[umbral crown]

oh

[marble musk]

Yeah its not that big of a sync dif

sadge

[umbral crown]

yeah but you will be improving as time goess

[marble musk]

Yeah, I always wait until union raid to level up

[umbral crown]

guess you have some levels for it

[umbral crown]

max is 4 pics

[fiery parcel]

Bigger is always better

The only pvp relevant i am missing is emi

[marble musk]

This was my champ pvp teams. I got to top 4 with it. Yall think theres anything i could improve?

Or should i just work on cp padding some of my units

[umbral crown]

SP Defense
Noise/Noah/Cinderella/Biscuit/Rumani
Scarlet/DrakeT/Trina/Red Hood/Jackal
SBS/Blanc/HelmT/Rapipi/Siren

[umbral crown]

Rosanna needs 7-10-10 . Doll as high as possible and 40 atk from OLd
Poli needs doll
Moran also needs doll and high skill investment
the rest should be fine unless you wanna try rebuilding your comps but if they works for you keep it and improve what you are missing

also give trina doll

[marble musk]

Trina just got a doll

I had ran out of rl dolls lol

but now everyone has it

[umbral crown]

also charge speed in your units will help you a lot

nice

[swift mango]

How much CP are these?

[fiery parcel]

690, 650, 552

[swift mango]

So you are comrade with @quick lake and @tropic summit as well.

[fiery parcel]

Yes sir. Hahaha

[fiery parcel]

Let me check

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

[fiery parcel]

Btw i got 4 temper slots and 4 quantum slots

Who should they go on? The rest i will stick res

[swift mango]

Yeah 3 teams 600k+ should be fine CP wise.

[umbral crown]

yes

[marble musk]

I shall work on the those, ty

[umbral crown]

yeah because 75k rosanna at lv400 not gonna do much tbh

cuz it means the investment is low

[fiery parcel]

I am building grave currently. Should i OL centi and moran next?

[fiery parcel]

And this too

[severe nimbus]

is there like an good team comp to defeat the team comp of Noah / Biscuit / Emilia / Red Hood / Helm

[umbral crown]

Drake , trina , jackal rumani quatum
Noah cindy scar blanc tempura i would say

[swift mango]

Could also use LapT instead of Drake if you wanted. Less few, less CP.

[fiery parcel]

Drake has higher CP than laplaceT

[umbral crown]

probably Noise/Noah/Sanis/Biscuit/Rapunzel since emi team is 2 RL and sanis 3 so should block emi nuke and clean the rest

[fiery parcel]

Mainly because laplace is 4/4/7, and drake is 10/7/10

[umbral crown]

if cp not an issue

[umbral crown]

for laplace focus S2 to lv10

thats where her damage is

[severe nimbus]

so I would just want to use more or less any strong 3RL team to delay my noah invul to block Emilia's attack if I am understanding this correctly?

[umbral crown]

yeah, 1 RL more than enemy to block it

[swift mango]

Try rosy and cereal teams for 1 day. Try my team half a day with drake, half a day with LapT I guess.

[severe nimbus]

Cool, thanks! I'll save that team comp. might just see if Noah/Biscuit/Cindy/Helm/Rapunzel could work

[pliant smelt]

Hi guys, can i ask any team suggestions for sp arena?

[marble musk]

Prob dont care anymore, but i realize this was my proper auto team cp. idk whyit gave me that other one from before

oooh pvp cubes i bet

[fiery parcel]

Btw after moving cubes around

T3 is down 597k

Because cindy got a 6 cube instead of res 12

[swift mango]

use resilience on Cindy is fine. So do biscuit and Rumani

CP is more important

[umbral crown]

still if it can cp gap him will work fine as defense but we need to see his cp to have an idea

[fiery parcel]

@umbral crown team letssss gooo

[dire root]

Does cheer screen show missed cheers? I thought it did. I am on the 4th, and next is 5th, there are 6 in total so yeah I missed one.

[graceful grotto]

it doesn't show missed cheer

[graceful grotto]

fun fact: if u slot quantum on all 4 units (aside from sbs on T1), u get 3.5RL lol

[fiery parcel]

Right now it 4rl?

[graceful grotto]

hahahahha i know it could work

[fiery parcel]

I got my 84cd/hour rate

[graceful grotto]

Yeap

[graceful grotto]

You're close to 29 hahaha

[fiery parcel]

Can go to 399

If dump all cored dust

[graceful grotto]

Same but gonna wait till 400

[fiery parcel]

Assuming 2000 cp per level per team. Thats.... 22000

CP added

[graceful grotto]

Actually I could do 400 now

Let me check

[fiery parcel]

Will it help my pvp?

Hahaha

Ive got 4 rocks. I wanna reroll something. Who should i gamble on

[graceful grotto]

Every bit help I supposed

[fiery parcel]

It will defonitely help.push hardmode

[graceful grotto]

Doneee

[quick lake]

401 soon!

[graceful grotto]

Gotta get that sweet CP boost

[glacial hatch]

Can anyone help me make a 3rd team please

[graceful grotto]

Show your box

[glacial hatch]

1
2
3

[graceful grotto]

Show us who u have mate, so we can know who to slot, not just your current defense

[fiery parcel]

Nice

[glacial hatch]

My b, one sec

[quick lake]

Just copy the teams in pins

[shell hazel]

does your scarlet actually link on your scarlet team?

if you run helm + rh they can link instead

[shell hazel]

this tbh

[graceful grotto]

Oh that's a good point

[fiery parcel]

Ah i made a mistake

[shell hazel]

mine won't on such a team

[graceful grotto]

Since most peeps heavy invest helmT and red hood

[fiery parcel]

Only 10 levels. Not 11

[graceful grotto]

Mine definitely not lol, scar has high attack

[pure moss]

who would win?

[fiery parcel]

I cant count.

[graceful grotto]

So 398?

Nice

[graceful grotto]

Ur 5 highest CP team with resi cubes?

[shell hazel]

I malded my way to end of 26 hard at 326 and will just save crates for now

hope for 341 jump on new chapters

[fiery parcel]

About 1.8k per level

No. Highest will include drakeT

And cindy

Max CP with res.

[shell hazel]

I got 2 more purple RL dolls on the bug rewards, so that's insane as that's 4 now in this solo raid and we didn't even reach the end yet

I only need one more for Rumani for all my batteries to be SR-5 at least. She seemed the least important to upgrade

[spare nimbus]

Bro why is my noah always getting targeted man

Why isnt his rosanna attacking thelm and emilia first

It;s literally just this guy

Every other person who uses rosanna, she always target thelm and emilia but for some reasoj this guy’s rosanna just targets my thelm and noah

[quick lake]

Because Noah taunts. So Rosanna's nuke is taunted

[spare nimbus]

That doesn’t make sense cause 1: rosanna prioritizes 2 attackers first and 2: that means everyone else’s rosanna’s would also be targeting my noah but that isnt the case

Ill send u an example

[quick lake]

Emilia dies, then Noah hit Scar/splashes to Rosanna. Rosanna is taunted

Rosanna's nuke are tauntable

Rosanna targeting research can be found here:
#pvp-arena message

[raven plover]

yea auto attack taunt them

[tropic summit]

unbelivable, after several months we finally managed to get it pinned?

what kind of miracle did it take

[quick lake]

I also didnt realise until i saw the pins

[tropic summit]

someone probably got tired of seeing us redirect to your post

i probably redirected at least over 30 times

[quick lake]

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

naga cind anis rh jackal
bsoda alice blanc drake rumani
auto

treasure helm asap, phase 2 s1 lvl 10
jackal in synchro, anis in synchro, bring jackal to 4/4/4, try getting her head and chest OL'ed when possible, prioritize PvE for progression at your synch
wishlist/build centi, trina, biscuit, noah, scarlet, SBS, noise, rapunzel

get your teams reviewed once any of the above minus noise and rapunzel are found

[shell hazel]

[wind kelp]

6 days to end of SPA, time to do math "Hmm, mhm, yup, and the point difference is....", right, no need to attempt for 4th anymore, that person has it, just gotta keep above 6 🧸

[quartz rover]

Is the top or the bottom the first attack/defense squad

[shell hazel]

@umbral belfry did you try out P5X yet?

[shell hazel]

nani?

[swift mango]

I told you how to beat this already. Use a team with SR, avoid hitting and let them burst with Emi.

But you just don't listen and keep getting yourself death whiffed and lose.

Also If Emi died anyway, just use Siren in your team to stun Scarlet and win.

[worthy knoll]

That is unless taunted, priority target is always the taunter if there is taunt. Emilia dying made Noah hit Scarlet which in turn taunted Rosanna, making priority is Taunter + First Attacker instead of First 2 Attackers

[quartz rover]

@swift mango managed to get raven a bit ago, think you could do your magic?

Here's this if you need it

[swift mango]

So here are 2 team that could win against this.

Noah+Biscuit+Ein+HelmT+RH

Noah+Biscuit+Cindy+Siren+Emi.

Pick one and win.

[swift mango]

Just replace Maxwell with raven

[quartz rover]

Bet

Ill unlock 5 more sync slots then do that

Im not purchasing them, I mean through academy

[tropic summit]

@umbral belfry @shell hazel i'll add myself to this, lemme know if it's just a cashgrab or an actually fun game... persona + gacha doesn't sound good to me, but you never know

[tropic summit]

yes

[shell hazel]

by all means. I only had time to do a quick run earlier, I need to re-roll a bit maybe to get a better start but it looks like it could be hard work

[quartz rover]

Wrong chat sorry

[tropic summit]

can use this channel: https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/946720097031045161

if you want a faster reply @quartz rover

[quartz rover]

I thought I was in question

[shell hazel]

I'll play again a bit later and see how it is in more detail

[swift mango]

What was he asking though?

[shell hazel]

Railtracer my Ros is now +2 on all gear (it's cheap enough). Eventually I'll boost her gloves/helm a bit more for the atk

[tropic summit]

pve question

[shell hazel]

with that + SR-15 I'll see how she does in the next CA

[swift mango]

Guess he deleted his comment.

[tropic summit]

you may not 1hitko SR15 fully invested nikke on high lvl temperance tho

unless critterino

[shell hazel]

people at my sync don't really have high level temperances yet I think

even the pvp centric folk. My resi is like 8 or 9, bastion 7, quantum 7, not had a chance to really spend on anything else

there is a relative thing here with how invested people are in general, I suspect in your brackets everyone is invested who is in CA more or less, but here I see a lot of questionable stuff lol

[tropic summit]

reasonable, we're several months ahead of progress in general, especially the more seniors lads in this channel

[swift mango]

I have level 7 on everything before I move on to Resilience ... Idk if it's a wise choice to have resilience lv11 and move on to Tempering though....

I could have done tempering to 15 alone and keep resilience at 7.

[shell hazel]

yeah, when did you start playing Rail?

[tropic summit]

then there are special cases like Blood above

don't use him as a measurement unit because he's out of the box

[tropic summit]

moran banner iirc

[shell hazel]

the best one to max is clearly temperance atm

[tropic summit]

something like in january?

[shell hazel]

so a year and 5 ish months?

[tropic summit]

mhm

sounds about right

[shell hazel]

mine was last Nov, so 8 months roughly

[swift mango]

I think we all should use Rosy at measurement unit.

[tropic summit]

4 months more and you're 1 year old

[shell hazel]

yep

[tropic summit]

yeah, another very out of the box unit

rosy's still taking out his 60+lvls ahead whel

[shell hazel]

I'll try and push resi a bit but also temperance some

Rosy bricked in pve though

[tropic summit]

doesn't matter

he's not bricked in my heart

[shell hazel]

makes sense

[tropic summit]

i shall believe in le rosy method

trust the process

[swift mango]

Crown+Scar+Ein/Cindy+RH+Rapu

Is pretty decent for campaign tbh... He just need to upgrade Siren, who is an Arena unit and he has PvE team...

But he only auto and not manual

[shell hazel]

uber bricked

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown oi, you're auto'ing?

[shell hazel]

trust the process Rail

[tropic summit]

i cannot unread that, lemme take the whip

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-shame-ringing-bell-walk-of-shame-gif-13316112511080767236

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor oi, he's auto'ing

[swift mango]

I have 1800 skill manual 1 and 2500 burst manual 1 right now...

First time since I start playing I had spare books.

Who should I invest then.

Hope Sugar treasure worth 101010

[shell hazel]

can wait to see who the treasure units are

we thinking Sugar?

[placid bloom]

surely Centi because her skin

[swift mango]

She will be since her teammates was the last 2.

So does maxwell

Other than them we won't know.

[placid bloom]

Idk what treasure Centi would even do though

since her shield unlikely to be up at start of fight

[shell hazel]

maybe make her more PVE relevant

[swift mango]

Could make her burst give debuff. Or her shield at start of the battle.

[shell hazel]

she's pretty strong in PVP already, would be strange to buff her pvp game even more

[swift mango]

Why not? Just give her skill real use instead of just buffing her burst gen.

[shell hazel]

I got her MLB and also SR-5 so at least not a large leap to treasure her

[swift mango]

Give her CS enhance skill like RH or Emi is nice too

[swift mango]

I have her core+5

She often survive scar+Trina easy.

[shell hazel]

my limit breaks

[placid bloom]

they should make her shield apply when team enters B2

though Idk how non-individual shield interacts with AoE

[swift mango]

My DKW +6 and My Alice +7. The rest lower than yours.

Drake +2 too

[shell hazel]

weird, rng on drops I guess

I have some units at 0LB and others +2/3/4 or w/e

my Noah I just boost with silver mileage when I can

[swift mango]

I wished I got Rapu so I could invest in Nero and Quiry.

That's 3 units to invest in.

Guess I would just build unit to boost my Union raid score later

[shell hazel]

oh yeah I guess Quiry at some point though no one is really running her in my CA atm

[swift mango]

Quiry burst help you win the Stall mirror and Buffed ASS

[shell hazel]

Nero / Moran / HelmT / Rapu / Mana (or LapT) seem the most common stall comp

[spare nimbus]

I won the other two

[shell hazel]

I see we won't run into ASS not in my brackets

might get a cheeky re-run in summer

[swift mango]

That's good I guess. You said one of their team too high CP so I thought you lost one.

Since I'm close to getting to 32 hard boss, I could consider to build Ein too... Not use it would help much in comparing to just wait for CP.

But I won't have rocks to fix her.

Yeah, just build some units to boost my Union raid score. And some CP padding then.

[tropic summit]

build ein maybe when they bother fixing her bugged true dmg first

someone was complaining her dmg completly tanked

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1387117456912289823

[swift mango]

before result come out.

[shell hazel]

ah you still in? I'm deadge

good luck 🙂

[unique mountain]

[lunar pawn]

let's gooo @oblique ridge @swift mango

[shell hazel]

[lunar pawn]

got lucky ngl

[keen vapor]

not surprised

[keen vapor]

Tfw I can't push chapter 32

[long forum]

What is a team I can use to counter this team if I am attacking for Special Arena?

[quartz rover]

Hey blood, is red hood as good in pvp as other stuff? Just got her and she wrecks

[lunar pawn]

@oblique ridge @swift mango this was the matchup, top attacker, bottom defender

attacker won t1 because scarlet s2 demolished siren before she could stun
attacker lost t2 because shotgun defense demolished his RLs, dropping his overall burst gen

[shell hazel]

oi Blood you win or what?

[swift mango]

I'm still read some comic so in a bit

[high stream]

What PVP units do you prioritize for collection dolls?

[shell hazel]

you should give up you can't keep finding more manga for thien 😄

[unique mountain]

Nobody in his bracket that can tell us who won either

[shell hazel]

[keen vapor]

Jackal bc she needs high HP

Moran for less damage taken and more HP

Bay for extra HP cover

[lunar pawn]

ok finals are finally here, thoughts on the keripo fight? top attacker (tataru), bottom defender (keripo)

thinking attacker will:
t1 win (defender shouldn't be 1.89RL I think, and shouldn't have enough damage to kill an unit early)
t2 lose
t3 lose (seen a similar matchup vs keripo before, but he has high CS on cindy, so should be a cindy wipe)
t4 lose (keripo bursts first, should have an edge in the stall comp)
t5 unsure, could be attacker win unless the SGs eat through emilia quickly, and then rosanna kills SBS/blanc

so overall should be keripo win

[keen vapor]

Noise for more survivability
Blanc/Trina for same reasons

We trust Keripo

[lunar pawn]

last cheer for unlucky frame

[keen vapor]

Me too

[high stream]

What about Core DPS units like Cindi, Scarlet, etc. ?

[keen vapor]

That's PvE unit, you'll build regardless

[high stream]

So, who here gets a doll then?
Jackal, Moran, Cindi, Scarlet, Trina .. anyone else?

I honestly need more CP. Somehow all these people have like 650K average PvP CP

[keen vapor]

[high stream]

[unique mountain]

[keen vapor]

650 is safe range of CP

The answer depends

Is any unit dying before they can do anything?
Not enough damage against enemy team?

[keen vapor]

That tag

[unique mountain]

You can hav it

[high stream]

I cant win matches, that's what I know for sure right now
I've been trying to shift to actual PvP setups instead of just auto filling my highest CP units .. And these 3 teams were given to me from this channel .. my third team is just CP stacking

[fiery parcel]

I wish SPA isnt level dependent

[keen vapor]

You should ask for attacks as well

[fiery parcel]

@swift mango congrats on beating my SPA camper.

Now to the finals

[high stream]

Uh .. I thought those were meant to be Attack teams?

[keen vapor]

We give def teams unless you give the target !

[swift mango]

Thanks

[fiery parcel]

For attack teams, it's a rock paper scissors situation

[keen vapor]

If you want to know what you need to improve you need to watch your matches not quick battling them

[fiery parcel]

Need to know what u are attacking, so that the MA can cook your teams

[high stream]

Oh .. hmm
Unfortunately I'm nowhere near knowledgable enough to know how to build against players on an individual basis .. like I can't look at a team and know what units to bring and how to position them .. that also sounds like a lot of work

[keen vapor]

BELUGAAAAAAAAA

[keen vapor]

That's why you should ask here

[keen vapor]

Go on ask

[clear folio]

@umbral belfry @wet crystal dafaq im not fighting cup, im fighting the guy who used ur S4 team and now using my S5 team! am i losing to my last comp ?

[placid bloom]

[keen vapor]

Where are the questions

[placid bloom]

pray for invest diff

[shell hazel]

[clear folio]

examine my match pls lol

[keen vapor]

Why people is afraid of cheating!

[placid bloom]

damn I have to log in

making me do work

[high stream]

Like this guy for example .. has 40K more CP than me .. that shouldn't be enough to make victory impossible, right? But I can't beat anyone it seems .. Even people with the same CP as me

[clear folio]

its fine my read says win 4-1, im just surprised its him lmao

[placid bloom]

team 2 is CP gapped, team 3 you lose because he has actual PvP units

[keen vapor]

I see

You need to power up Scarlet team Scarlet can beat the last two teams

[placid bloom]

you barely have dolls on anyone, I would assume no gear either

and probably low skill levels

[swift mango]

Winning Emi mirror. Glad my ReiT was faster than his Moran. I was the first to cheer today.

[keen vapor]

Scarlet jackal teams are made to defeat teams with high bullets count, as in MG or SG

[high stream]

Actually .. all skills are 4/4/4 minimum .. core units are either at stage 2 investment or stage 3 .. so Cindi for example is 7/4/7 .. but Siren is 10/10/10 .. The units that have gear that I can OL .. have OL gear .. but I lack pieces. Jackal for example has only 2, Trina has none .. It's quite inconsistent.

[swift mango]

At least I would have the "4 times reaching final" frame after tomorrow. It's rarer than 2 time champ currently.

[shell hazel]

just hit team 1 and team 2, skip team 3

team 1 is garbage, and team 2 feeds scarlet

[quartz rover]

blood, would I swap something out in my teams you built me now that I have red hood?

[keen vapor]

Centi won't need more investment on skills

How's Scarlet

[feral thistle]

bro..

[unique mountain]

4 max

[keen vapor]

Bro, is too much

That's why we recommend horizontal

[feral thistle]

it was.

[swift mango]

D:kw

[keen vapor]

[quartz rover]

thanks

[keen vapor]

More than 4 images will kill my data :deadge: you cook

[swift mango]

If you are on phone, use the edit images function to merge your screenshots

[feral thistle]

hello once again team building wizards, can someone tell me a good rookie team for attack and defense? also for special pvp? here are my girls

[keen vapor]

[feral thistle]

just got scarlet wife 💚

[quartz rover]

I see a dude in my shard in special pvp, it's on sight

[heavy lodge]

are there any current exodia nikke pvp teams or at least for rookie? not sure if noise/scarlet/rapunzel/jackal/noah is outdated due to new units

[swift mango]

Like this

[high stream]

Scarlet and Cindi are both 7/4/7

[quartz rover]

by the way what cubes do I use on my team? I'm working on bastion lost sector rn

[oblique ridge]

Nice, the Siren died hard and fast huh

[loud sonnet]

[rich ledge]

for SEA server who would win finals?

most likely swordsmy? this is the first time i got all others correct, hopefully I dont miss the last guess

[keen vapor]

I would level up that skill 2

Scarlet first

[keen vapor]

Happens to me everytime

[keen vapor]

I can edit them

I can't merge

[umbral belfry]

Ace winning back to back

[keen vapor]

Blood, answer him

[umbral belfry]

I did but I'm still rerolling. I fell asleep last night

[umbral belfry]

I'll let you know

[quartz rover]

considering atlus track record im leaning towards cash grab, saw nothing about it though

[swift mango]

I kinda thought Nemmy would have higher chance lose today.

So you and Donte in SEA too? I thought you both were Global?

[loud sonnet]

No we sea

[keen vapor]

We don't talk about Persona here

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal

[umbral belfry]

silence

[keen vapor]

We don't want EoS

[loud sonnet]

For some reason I have NA server as role

[swift mango]

I'm guessing I would lose 2-3.

[umbral belfry]

nikke x persona 5 collab, say goodbye to nikke

[swift mango]

Still cheer for myself though

[rich ledge]

oo blood is swordsmy?

shift up should really make a screen like that for comparison the current way is horrible

[high stream]

I have enough skill books to 10/10/10 a few more units .. that's not the issue. I just don't want to be wasteful or triggerhappy with them.
My current campaign team is full 10/10/10

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Level 7 is enough for their skill 2

[high stream]

Okay, Scarlet and Cindi 777

[rich ledge]

thats like 50/50 if you say 2-3

[keen vapor]

Now give blue doll to Scarlet

[swift mango]

I mean I got countered 3 teams and would probably lose them.

[keen vapor]

And level it up with blue kits only

[quartz rover]

hey blood what's the image calculator thing you used and sent me for team? I wanna use it so I can send a screenshot

[swift mango]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[rich ledge]

is it because team 3,4 and 5 are bad matchups?

2 looks potentially dangerous if rosanna wipes both your b3 as well

team 3 rosanna gets wiped out due to shotgun and you cant burst

team 4 rei gets blocked by noah

team 5 idk

is my analysis correct? haha

[quartz rover]

how should I distribute my cubes?

also I put a bluecollectible on the first nikke in last team, read it's good cause it raises her defense or something

[high stream]

I have a lot of dolls and my campaign team is full stage 15 purple dolls .. would there be anything wrong with just dolling my entire pvp lineup?

[swift mango]

2, 4, 5 actually.

I got 1, 3 in the bag.

Just hope I have enough dmg or burst fast enough to win.

I have okay chance actually

[placid bloom]

team 1 you win because Biscuit p5 tank
team 2 Moran will B1 before your Scar can B3, cup one-shot because he was on Scar Trina RH but I'm not 100% sure if you can one-shot with only Trina. This is his least invested team though so I think it's still your win even if his LapT survive Scar nuke.
team 3 Scarlet will get stunned because she has 40 ammo, I'm just not sure if you live to indom because you will already get chunked early by Scar counter and RH will get at least 1-2 shots onto your linked Mermaid before Blanc can indom, maybe SBS already dead. This one comes down to invest tbh; your Jackal + Mermaid are max core so maybe you have enough HP though.
team 4 you lose
team 5 you lose
I think it's possible for you to win 3-2 based on invest diff

[swift mango]

I just checked his team, rei would be able to burst before Noah but I don't know if she could wipe.

My Rossanna team would win. No doubt.

Team 5, First time I see this match up too.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-yes-gif-21160558

[clear folio]

2rl bay lose to 3rl cindy?

[umbral belfry]

Ace doesn't lose t4

2 rl bay blocks 3 rl cindy, consistently at that

now if rng screws ace then

[swift mango]

Unless that 3rl Cindy has strong Emi and LapT off burst.

[umbral belfry]

if his 2 rl bay loses to 3 rl cindy when all of the other 2 rl bays won that matchup 😭

[umbral belfry]

blood you fool there's no emi in our bracket

and he's not using lapt. it's over

[placid bloom]

I didn't check his tank invest

[umbral belfry]

no doll rumani

[placid bloom]

his Biscuit gonna get burned too early

[umbral belfry]

low noah

[placid bloom]

lol

[umbral belfry]

it's so over

bay will probably die during fb but it's just clean up

[clear folio]

may the rng gods be kind on finals again

[placid bloom]

yeah should clean up, I don't even think they can get over Moran. That team is weaker than I thought

[umbral belfry]

his burst is 10 iirc?

or maybe it was noise

[placid bloom]

if 10/10/10 she is actually unkillable by that team

[umbral belfry]

unless if you meant zyph's

10/10/10 moran

[placid bloom]

ace's

[clear folio]

yeah shes 10 max sr10

sr 11

[umbral belfry]

I can't remember if his is burst 10 or not

yeah it's over lmao

[placid bloom]

the other guy's Moran is super weak

Idk if she even blocks Trina

[umbral belfry]

this moran team isn't even 2 rl

[placid bloom]

she will B1

[umbral belfry]

so it dies bc bay won't block scar

[placid bloom]

it's just probably not enough

[umbral belfry]

True, shouldn't be enough

[placid bloom]

well even if LapT survives, I don't think his Bay survives so he has no B2

[umbral belfry]

if it lost to cups less invested scar it shoyld def lose to ace's

[placid bloom]

cup had RH B1

that's why I wasn't too sure, but his Bay probably just dies even with Moran burst

[umbral belfry]

fair

[clear folio]

theres also a caveats, cups trina p2 is at 2% hp. maybe my p2 rap stuns lol

[umbral belfry]

I'd still give that to ace just due to bay not catching up

[umbral belfry]

okay let's not get too crazy

[keen vapor]

How's level diff with Challenger 10?

[rich ledge]

hope you win haha 80% of the people are depending on it

🤣

[umbral belfry]

if your rapu didn't get close to low enough from my dmg, zyphs won't either. but you still win t2

and now I go back to rerolling p5x

[clear folio]

lmao gg have fun xD

[swift mango]

I wish I got my 4th ATK on ReiT.

Or max core her back then

[placid bloom]

team 3 is the only one where it's really close, I don't actually know if RH can kill SBS through link damage before you can indom

[rich ledge]

Cinderella with noise HP buff is alot

If you put another buffer on rei team it would be safer

Scarlet might not need such a powerful RH buff?

[swift mango]

I hope they don't have much CS so my ReiT burst before Noise.

[placid bloom]

if you are 2.5RL Blanc it's fast enough though

[keen vapor]

Can you max core?

[clear folio]

its a natural 2.5, yeah im betting on myself

[placid bloom]

yeah you win at 2.5

for sure

[high stream]

I have no idea how tbh. I can't see all of their levels .. but the lowest of them seems to be around 230, the highest I can see is 254

[swift mango]

I had 200 pulls at the end of last Eva. So maybe with some luck

[keen vapor]

No way

[keen vapor]

You press on them

Then you see their level

[umbral crown]

Always auto

[rotund swan]

right won 3 and 4 but other fights was good. thanks. now the last fight

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-duckling-no-no-way-i-dont-agree-gif-4243311

[high stream]

Oh .. did you mean THE current top 10 player? Not all of them? .. that would be this guy

[umbral crown]

But when noah SR15

[umbral crown]

no Ein next CA i guess

[keen vapor]

Ok, do the same you did on Scarlet with Trina and Jackal

[umbral crown]

If not whalerino would be C2

[high stream]

Just the doll? Skills stay at 4 4 4 ?

[keen vapor]

Level up Trina skill 2 to level 7

[high stream]

Interesting . . .

[keen vapor]

I did max her but it can wait I think

[keen vapor]

That skill will allow Scarlet to be super strong 💪

[shell hazel]

when I get more doll materials. I did Noise instead for now as she directly tanks more 😛

[umbral crown]

Good

[umbral crown]

Lv10

[shell hazel]

I used all my materials to boost ros/lapT/noise to SR-15 but it's fine, I'll get more 🙂

[high stream]

Alright .. all done. It seems what's holding me back most in terms of resources are maintenance kits .. and actual gear pieces. Cause I do have tons of dolls and even gear mats and credits .. but no gear pieces to max out.

But I really doubt I can beat this guy. His other 2 teams are also a lot stronger than me

[umbral crown]

Focus in 2 teams instead 3

[worldly osprey]

U need to believe yourself man. I sure u will win in the next day

[keen vapor]

I don't max out gear

I overload and go to the next gear

[high stream]

I think I am doing that already

[swift mango]

[high stream]

That's what I mean. Right now my priority is overloading everything. But I lack pieces to do that right now.

[high stream]

Like .. look at this, I've been farming Ultra since almost a month now. No Helmet for Scarlet.

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

You're in range

Put Siren in first placement instead of Scarlet and give it a go

[high stream]

Just to see if I can beat his first team? Cause the other 2 teams will crush me, u know.

[keen vapor]

Wait

[high stream]

Unless you mean the other guy .. I did just beat him with these changes

[keen vapor]

What are they teams

[swift mango]

That duck looks tasty.

[keen vapor]

A

[keen vapor]

[quartz rover]

blood. I'm amassing a fortune of pvp units and idk how they're going to change up my current setup just got biscuit and mermaid in the same multi

[swift mango]

Just update your box after a day.

[umbral crown]

Im coming with a hot cook next season

[umbral crown]

Losing twice in top 16 is not a good sign

But the bad luck was when i saw everyone cheering on me

[swift mango]

Time to invest in Siren. And have PvE team at same time.

[quartz rover]

could you help me out with my cube placements? I'm not sure who is pivotal in each team

[swift mango]

It's okay cube not important... Just put the highest level on the b3

[quartz rover]

b3?

[swift mango]

Burst 3

[quartz rover]

oh alright

[umbral crown]

Next year, trust

[high stream]

The top 10 guy is quite a bit more problematic I think ..

[swift mango]

Skill books are lots now so don't need to skim on them...

You see the among of Champ with siren?

[umbral crown]

Hmmmmm

[swift mango]

Time to 101010 both siren and Crown

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

Books are not really an issue well the yellow ones are

[swift mango]

If I got champ tomorrow with Crown you better invest in her

[umbral crown]

Champ with crown

[quartz rover]

blood, thanks for the team setup by the way. I beat the top whale in my shard in special arena

[swift mango]

Crown won again today.

[shell hazel]

@umbral belfry your duck is in trouble

[umbral belfry]

@swift mango

[umbral crown]

Nice cook

[shell hazel]

damn crown is strong

[quartz rover]

I know the beginner pvp thing probably doesnt matter, but think you could cook something up for me in there too?

[shell hazel]

is that team even 4RL? 😄

[swift mango]

4.5

Anything not 2rl is slow anyway.

[quartz rover]

this is what I have to work with

I just set my pve team up for it

[shell hazel]

alright champ with crown let's go

[rotund swan]

@swift mango @umbral crown who will win?

[swift mango]

R
Probably L
Probably L
Probably L
L

So probably L.

[keen vapor]

Oh no

[umbral crown]

CN

Weij: oh no i failed, let me come back in 1h

[high stream]

Don't worry, I don't expect to beat that right now .. though I'm not sure how some of these people in this bracket are this far ahead in CP .. I guess the whales be whaling .. because considering that my account is about 3 months old, I think I'm incredibly well off and managed my resources pretty much perfectly.

[keen vapor]

@bitter cipher finals are a though match

[high stream]

Like, I even am pushing Campaign at 30%+ deficits .. currently 33%
I can't do much more outside of spending money

[keen vapor]

Have you bought event stamina with gems?

[high stream]

I did that for every event, yes

[keen vapor]

Do daily 50 gem wipeout

[high stream]

Hm .. I could do that.

[keen vapor]

How's hard campaign

Chapter 6 yet?

[high stream]

Also stuck in campaign, but thats a whole different story. I pushed a ton of CP and still stuck. I can't seem to beat 30-34 Boss.
I reduced the deficit down to 28%, but can't beat it .. And if I bring an electric unit for the shield break, I actually do worse .. and that also brings my deficit back up 33%

And in hard campaign I'm like .. chapter 11?

I think I can definitely push some more there, but I eventually just get tired of breaking my hands through these deficits

[keen vapor]

Ikr

[keen vapor]

Invest Cindy

Max her

You can leave skill 2 for later

[high stream]

Cinderella? Max as in .. 10/7/10, purple doll?

[keen vapor]

Skill 1 and burst more important

[keen vapor]

First blue doll, always

[high stream]

She has a lvl 15 blue

[keen vapor]

Then swap to purple

And max yes

[high stream]

Actually, no purple for her

[keen vapor]

Use gold kits when you leveled that doll once (so, phase 6/11)

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

thank you

[tropic summit]

indeed they broke her

[high stream]

That's as good as it gets, 10/7/10

[keen vapor]

@bitter cipher ask him about finals, I think Asian guy should win but not sure

[keen vapor]

she will defeat those crystals and mirrors

[high stream]

Does she want to burst in that fight?

[tropic summit]

no me not MA, ask @keen vapor

me pleb me knows nothin'

[keen vapor]

Yes

[swift mango]

I don't think that Def ignore is important in Arena so shouldn't be much of a problem

[keen vapor]

[high stream]

PvP unrelated .. but .. positioning?
My usual campaign team is that, but HelmT instead of Cindi

[strong hull]

Echocho-san

[keen vapor]

It could be like that

But you need to start with RH burst 1, crown then Cinderella burst

When it's Rapi burst with Siren

Do your rotations like that

[tropic summit]

depends on ele weak and deficit, in general you'll want to B1 with RH whenever you need the extra dmg with your strongest B3
siren is useful for a few mobs where you wanna stun
RRH is overall a good B3 for 2 ele weaknesses
alice is the queen of high deficit and bursting down the boss at the end of stage on all buffs +

[keen vapor]

Don't say my name like Ochos my name is Echo-da

[tropic summit]

crown doublesdown as free cheese to give you 4s invulnerability + taunt as needed, just leave her on 16 or 19 stacks and pop her when you want to, generally as soon as boss enters

[high stream]

I do have this 10/10/10 Alice ..

[strong hull]

[tropic summit]

does she meet CS% requirements to instant charge during B3 aswell?

and most importantly, do you care about your wrist

[high stream]

If you mean her charge speed .. it's 100%, but her OLs are purely focused on that .. so she is unoptimized beyond that .. she is 4x charge and 2x ammo

[tropic summit]

no atk% or ele at all?

[keen vapor]

Not Alice, cope with Rapi

[keen vapor]

It should be 2 charge speed

[strong hull]

Sorry, i stuttered

[high stream]

Actually .. 2 ATK, 2 ELE, 3 Charge, 1 Ammo
She does have 100% charge speed with this

[strong hull]

[tropic summit]

could use 1 more ammo, rest is gud

[keen vapor]

Wrong! You did it on purpose

[tropic summit]

in fact you've 1 extra CS% line you prolly don't need if the others lines aren't too low

[high stream]

They are, thats the reason

[tropic summit]

ouchie

still, usable if you ever wanna kill anyhing on deficit and especially on fire weak

[high stream]

Alice replaces RH?

[tropic summit]

no you use alice WITH RH

[keen vapor]

No, Rapi

[high stream]

Oh

[strong hull]

I stutted

[tropic summit]

it's just that you burst with RH B1, crown B2 and alice B3, pre-boss, on crown on 16-19 stacks

[keen vapor]

Follow guide #1307277791032508446

[swift mango]

Echochocho

[strong hull]

[keen vapor]

It wasn't on purpose?

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor use this

[late tiger]

What is the best team for emilia noah, blanc or someone else?

[tropic summit]

use this
#pvp-arena message

it's in le pins too

[late tiger]

Thanks

[tropic summit]

no problemo

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

300 gems

[keen vapor]

Hachikuji

[strong hull]

Ma favorite

[rotund swan]

2 differents answers @swift mango
1: I see why right
2: it is because rosanna can’t kill scarlet the reason why left can win?
3: I don’t know well these nikkes, if someone can explain me. thx
4: who Siren will stun? It is possible than right can win.
5: same question.

[pliant smelt]

thank ou for the help! i think i still can understand most of it, maybe need a clarification what is the meaning of "treasure helm asap, phase 2 s1 lvl 10"?

[shell hazel]

• Get Helm to 2 LB (have unit + 2 more copies for 2 stars)
• Get bond level to 30
• Get doll to SR-15 (highest level)
• Get Skill 1 to level 10
• Get enough fav item materials from dispatches to phase 2 (or 3 ideally). 160 you need in total

it's a longish process you can complete them in any order but all are required to be done in the end

you can work on bond level daily

[pliant smelt]

ah i see, thanks for the clarifying!

[shell hazel]

you can send dispatches from outpost for Helms item (3 per day). you need 50 for phase 2 or 160 for phase 3

it's the syringey looking one

[pliant smelt]

okok, got it!

[lunar pawn]

so did anyone review the keripo matchup? consensus he wins?

[swift mango]

2. Right isn't 2rl unless 2 die. Soda stun make it RNG.
3. Right could win if they fing invested in their team. If i's just zero investment stall. SG would muder Neri before she burst.
4. Siren stunned Emi and she got Blanc but XMaiden burst instead.
5. Siren stunned Moran but she already burst.

[keen vapor]

Blood

[swift mango]

Rosy didn't even looked at teams match up.

[keen vapor]

Are you sure that Rosanna can't kill Scarlet?

I've seen one that can kill RH full HP

[lunar pawn]

doesn't matter, blanc indom, enemy team has no sustain, even maiden can wipe them

[keen vapor]

right

[keen vapor]

Seems right

[rotund swan]

Finally I will bet for left. I think he can win at least 2,3 and 5.

[swift mango]

T1: defending on investment of both side, good chance his core max would just kill Noise and Noah.

T2: Top could win if they killed Rapu then Rosa one shot Blanc before she burst. This is also investment matters.

T3: My similar scar just wiped this same team before so investment matters. But Cindy won't wipe before Scarlet bursts even with CS, best would be Cindy first hit land on Scarlet and one-shot her.

4- With same investment Top always win. Bottom could only win if TOp has almost zero investment at all.

5; Another investment matter.

Yeah, Keripo could OP top with core. But I would vote for top if same investment.

[lunar pawn]

yea some fights I'm just giving keripo the w due to investment difference

as for the cindy scar fight, I've seen it before plus keripo also clarified on his CS

so got high hopes for it

in theory SGs should be able to shoot twice before the 2nd shot of a RL flies right?

[swift mango]

If RL has no CS. The 2nd shot of SG would be before the first RL shot by a good margin. The 4th shot of SG would be before 2nd RL shoot by a bit.

[leaden marten]

@lunar pawn got out of like at 1am yesterday so i was too dead to think hahaha, i'm already at work again today

[lunar pawn]

right, 2.5RL was 5 shots

so 3 shots should land within 2RL time

[leaden marten]

so if i have time tonight i will ping u up

[lunar pawn]

yea there's a good chance keripo's t5 is a win

[leaden marten]

or did already test the team?

[lunar pawn]

no worries, it was for the CA matchup that already passed, I got the cheer I wanted so all's good haha

thanks though, let me know if you need to test any rookie teams

[leaden marten]

k

[drifting owl]

How do you deal with soda scarlet def

[tropic summit]

you mean the stun soda? if she's p1, she'll be taunted by noise/noah, so that drammatically increases the odds of getting yourself stunned on those characters, although that can also be used to ensure those are the only nikke getting stunned, which means you can run multiple B1 and B2 with taunters and get to burst with who you want

if she's not p1 or p2 you can still get rumani to taunt her, that means you can then safely run 2 B2s and 2 B3s

it also depends then on speed, if opponent is running high CS% they may B1 before you do

[chrome cairn]

https://gyazo.com/5ac9d4b2a0d1358505ea17f90ff4af5e IS THIS WINNABLE

[tropic summit]

another thing if you feeling like gambling, soda stun does not work on Cindy due to decoy

[chrome cairn]

I am tempted to try to fight this but 2 favorite item nikkes is scary

[tropic summit]

move scarlet to p1 then liter dies and enemy cannot burst

run

scarlet alice cindy grave rouge

if you can replace rouge with jackal to ensure win

[chrome cairn]

unfortunately don't have jackal so

[tropic summit]

rumani? centi? trina?

helm treasure phase 2 s1 lvl 10?

you're synchro 272 so i hope you've at least one of those

[chrome cairn]

rumani, centi, and trina I have but aren't on synchro machine

as for helm she doesn't even have the treasure since I was busy on viper

[tropic summit]

you should have the following on synchro if you care above pvp:

trina, centi, rumani, scarlet, jackal, noah, noise, rapunzel, helm treasure, laplace/xmaiden, cinderella

without batteries most teams are utter garbage, like those 2 you showing

[oblique ridge]

I cheered Keripo… but this analysis says he’ll lose?

RIP credits

[chrome cairn]

hold up but rouge gets bonuses if she's in 2 or 4 slots

shouldn't that matter quite a bit

[swift mango]

He probably win no worry. The teams didn't show doll or CP anyway.

[tropic summit]

it doesn't matter because both teams are trash, your point is to get to burst before opponent does

scarlet in p1 will allow you to kill liter early via s2, then opponent cannot burst

using any battery instead of grave or rouge will allow you to hit 4RL, which means bursting after 4 rockets are shot

while opponent is bursting on 7RL

(as for previous picture)

meaning your alice (if alive) or cindy will be bursting while opponent facetanks it

[bitter cipher]

@keen vapor @tropic summit So right wins is what y’all are sayin

[tropic summit]

i didn't say a thing, wrong mention

[bitter cipher]

Bruh

[keen vapor]

@swift mango

[keen vapor]

Say a thing

[keen vapor]

I think right will win

Bets are on left

Mine too bc I want to lose....

[swift mango]

I'm more confident L would win 4-5. 2-3 maybe they had high skill investment but low CP who knows.

[swift mango]

No they @ you.

[keen vapor]

I want second opinions

[keen vapor]

Like
I think each Rosa will kill the other

[keen vapor]

Rapu scar wins
Noise Cindy wins

Nero as long as she doesn't dies before next rotation should win

[bitter cipher]

Damn, I guess everyone going for loser frame this CA

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[bitter cipher]

[keen vapor]

[bitter cipher]

Just one more

[swift mango]

R
L
L - unless RH survive scar slash.
R - probably
L - I have seen that SR5 Rapu lose to max core Cindy many times.

[keen vapor]

should I trust the one who made me lose league

[bitter cipher]

I just switched to left side

[keen vapor]

We don't know SR5 either

Dax, what core she survived, previous match

[bitter cipher]

One sec

[swift mango]

No.

But I didn't make you lose league.

[keen vapor]

YOU DID 🫵

[swift mango]

Provide proof

[keen vapor]

Wait for proof

[tropic summit]

🍿

[bitter cipher]

Wait, what am I supposed to be looking for again?

[tropic summit]

what surprises you here? direct counter to helmT B3

look at her dmg done

then look at cindy and laplace dmg done

they didn't stall shiet and got stalled instead

out DPS'ed aswell

[bitter cipher]

Echo asked me what core she survived previous match, I’m not sure what that means

[keen vapor]

Record the match

Rapunzel survived

[swift mango]

Believe in your heart.

Or if you don't, you and @keen vapor each vote one guy so 1 of you get the frame.

I

[keen vapor]

You're evil

[tropic summit]

i like that 50/50 logic

one takes the L, the other can get le frame

[swift mango]

Believe in your heart or believe in Rosy. Don't believe in me. I don't want to take responsibility.

[tropic summit]

for once not so stacked

[rotund swan]

Each time I bet on him, I lost 😂 except once

[rotund swan]

same bracket

[tropic summit]

looks like a left win? 3 direct counters

[rotund swan]

blood said left can win 2-3-4-5

[tropic summit]

ye sounds about right

5 and 4 are hard counter, 3 has slow stall team, 2 has jackal linked against SG spam

the dude won lottery in reverse

[keen vapor]

See blood?

[rotund swan]

I will bet right because my goal is the losing streak frame.

[swift mango]

Yes, Rapu lost to C7 Cindy.

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

Yes? That's normal?

[tropic summit]

imagine if nero survived tho

[bitter cipher]

[tropic summit]

rapu B1 right after nero died

that would hurt right in the kokoro

[keen vapor]

~~ .... Dax, second rotation won't reach Burst 3 ~~

[tropic summit]

need more temperance

and get that def OL

[swift mango]

You know, LapT is Iron and HelmT is water.

[tropic summit]

ye quite sad

[swift mango]

Nero is fire.

[tropic summit]

point is he didn't get rapu B1 in time to recover with a B2

need nero to live to 2nd cycle

[swift mango]

Yeah, I mean it might as well happened this time too

[tropic summit]

mhm

[swift mango]

[crystal flicker]

And use Quiry instead

[tropic summit]

if nero was alive and helmt woulda sniped, that'd be match, link killerino

close callerino, much popcorns

[crystal flicker]

They only have Rapunzel to heal when Noah immune

[tropic summit]

and yet all we got is despair

[keen vapor]

Asian guy will lose

[tropic summit]

that a gud or bad thing

[swift mango]

Believe in your heart, he will win.

at least in your heart

[bitter cipher]