#pvp-arena
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That's where is was going
And now with 23% Noir atk, my Rosa can 1 tap Any DPS (except with 2RL Moran)
Doro didn't pull Re Zero collab? 
23% attack? 
I got unlucky on Emilia
What the team?
I got unlucky on Rem dupes 
I hate rezero overall, but that bricked me
If you wonder this the value of Noir S1 at Lv10 + SR5 + OL0 + Console60 + Cube Lv 7 + 0% ATK
:novel noted:

whats the benefit to having scarlet be low ammo?
Can avoid Siren stun
what is the shotgun team for arena nowadays?
How do I beat this butthead
his team is 4rl, just 2rl nuke it with scarlet or cindy
cindy team would be noise Noah jackal cindy helm.
scar team can be scarlet trina hood centi jackal
i hate dat team....dat the only team dat threatened Moran Nero team
somehow my Moran Nero get caugh by dat
.....just my luck
removed scarlet with jackal. until u can beat it/
~ anothers optional do rh with rapunzel if have. ) / can used moran investment, if maxlb after u.u noise never got dupe. (for delete 2 tier dmg unit enemy)
That means you're not invested enough 
wait....ur saying it can win??????????
my opp was highly invested Scar Blanc hood Trina team tho 
Blanc does delete Moran's buff tho
i hate people who used blanc op.
but me bricked
eepy just 4sec
and they used noir so stronk
is like scarlet ulti so bonk. me
then by default cant win 
Did some quick math, anyone that can heal Nero can survive that
in Moran Nero Team
Ofc except HelmT coz Ele adv
So Nero, Quiry, Rapunzel gonna survive that
If It was me I would be hitting you everyday to test comps.
Soda tech isn't very strong in a bracket infected with nero. RH made a comeback instead.
KABE
DON
It's nice, esp if you're the one doing it to a girl
Moran has lifesteal
fixed
Kabedon?
Ye
How much charge speed increase does Emilia get with her skills at 10/10/10 with no OL lines?
Around equal to 8% in 3 shots
13%... its in her skill :kekwdym:
How much charge speed in my OL lines do I need to reach 38% charge speed on the deck builder?
thats why you need 8% from OL 
23%.
23% with the help of cube
Ok then I’m close
23% from OL + 2 from cube. 
you dont need that much tbh, 34% enough 
You nowhere close

Lmao

Just 2 more charge speed lines 
Blue lines
How much from the lvl 7 cube?
You aim for 38?
Lv3 or Lv7 give you same cs
Fat attack line and elemental line as well
if i have all the NIKKEs axcept these few, what's the best SP arena team i could make ?
I just calculated
I have 21.15% charge speed increase from OL
Plus Adjudant cube level 5 puts me at 22.74%
Does that round up?
At level 7 my adjudant cube goes to 2.12% charge speed so I should reach 23%
Huh
"Rounded"
1.51 Round up to 2
1.50 Round down to 1
cmiiw
tldr, need 25% from cube + OL
Wait so let’s say I have 10/10/10 skill. Level 7 adjudant cube. How much OL charge speed is required for the 38% on the deck builder?
You didn't read my message about rounded 
Bro I’m drinking
U need 4x minimum 5.51% cs lines if that helps not enough 

Damn
No
LAST FRIDAY NIG-
Need better than 5.51. Mix of blues and hopefully black
It's 1 Black, 1 Tier 14, 1 Tier 13, and any line > 4.50 cs
Well I’ve got a 5.51 and a 5.80 so far plus 2 4.92s
22
that’s 22 cs% so far. Reroll a 4.92 for better
Im actually kinda close lowkey
He need that 5.80 or Black line 
Copium lmao
After that u can try for 25% helm 
My pvp arc is paused 
I’m only PvP I hate solo raid
Why you want 38 Emi tho
why not, I would do it if i had her
I mean with his current stat he will fire that 3rd Emi volley at 2.02
4th will fire at 2.64
True, not a must to reroll for 25%. 24% is decent alr
I mean I guess for the hell of it
why would not we?

Action depend on the goal
I aim 25% cs ClipRL so I can block 2RL Nuke with 2.5RL
Apparently 21% is enough based on data, but I can't test since nobody running 2RL in my Bracket 
So I don't see the reason for 38 Emi, unless you're going to use her as gen carry in slow comp
21% doesn’t work afaik
21% on 2 Clip RLs
Merry tried 22%(?) helm and it didn’t block in time
lets just get 4 black lines then try again
Here's the math, in seconds
Do test and let us know. I’ll need to reroll this piece if so 
Nobody runs 2RL in my bracket 
I'll send that team next CA and see if it'll face 2RL Scarlet
My 1rl slower delta somehow able to stop Emi nuke. Same speed or less than 0.5rl difference wasn't able to.
That’s Emi nuke 
They seriously not fixing Delta? 
Whats going on with delta 
It's a feature
She stops people from normal attack.

delta cooking
How do they stop attacking
Because of delta decoy
There is nothing to see here. 
then what is this delta tech 
See that Emi nuke charging forever? 
Affected everyone but centi in this video. Because of attack motion timing. 
I won't explain it anymore you can just test for yourself. Not like I know the exact mechanic
Get another B2, replace Rapipi
Ur siren probably die.but u probably win.
with whom 😭
this team is to die
and they just exist
is it good?
Burst with Rapipi instead
I think you're gonna win, though I'd prefer B2 to take P1 instead
aren't they too fat in 1st round
Wdym
Before you could win against Midhara dot with RH lifesteal but now you don't have it and RH kill Midhara first which could make for nasty ending.
I don't get what's B2 and P1
But you could try
Wasnt that Mihara P5
RH hit p5 when attack
Even when bursting?
Yes. No reason not to unless taunt
Moran may die fast anyway
Before Midhara dot could kill anyone .
You can try either
Rapipi RH Trina Siren Jackal
or
RH Rapipi Trina Siren Jackal
doable? anything to change?
What skill levels for moran, whats her role on team
What stats to focus on for ols
realized i didn't have a burst 1 on round 2
Moran is similar to Noise. Upon burst, team-wide dmg reduction. Has more self survivability than Noise in exchange for no healing.
Budget 4/4/7 ig
No OLs in particular. Atk/Def/Ele if u want reallyy want to
Mostly found in CA/(SPA) - Moran + Biscuit + SAnis team archetype (though high feed + generally slower team)
Not a must in SPA. Nice to have in casual CA, a must for a competitive Nero Moran CA team
that team looks like a dragon
would anyone have tips on how to counter this? not sure if scarlet would work
2RL Scar Trina RH should work
is that 4rl
because 3rl still activates noah
Just have to ensure the team is overall 2RL
eg Scar Trina RH Centi Jackal
so something like Scar Trina RH laplace jackal?
laplace needs to be replaced with Rumani/Centi/Emilia etc
disable the noah, then promptly delete their team
scar trina siren centi/anis jackal
ill give both a try, thanks!
Opponent team is 2.5rl-3rl. Noah shouldnt proc in time
Nero Moran Helm has decent dmg reduction. Scar trina might not be enough if not invested
so what, my point still stands
might as well use a noah on scarlet team if you are worried at this point
that's why i'm saying to use siren
even if it doesn't wipe everyone scarlet damage being buffed still works
you take the 2rl red hood path and cinderella will promptly eats the blocked scarlet burst and kills you
yeah RH team didnt work
siren didnt work as well, maybe trina isnt invested enough? (i have her 4 OL 4/7/7 though)
my scarlets maxed
please post the repaly
if siren one doesn't work it's because you are being gapped by nero burst
Nero Moran Helm can tank Scar Trina fyi
sorry not sure how to post replays
they make sure that you cannot kill that team at all so it is basically a messed up situation
damn is nero that strong i never invested too much in her
the other solution is to run a noah team, and counters it
but you lose noah, so think carefully
what noah team can i use
Same RL Noah team wont work also
Possible, but unlikely. U can try ig
could make it 3.5, but i'm not sure
still didnt work, cant kill anything else other than their noah
it can't be early, it is either too slow or your team dies too fast
huge damage reduction
too fast* she didn't die when cindy bursted
no, ok, you have to understand this
damn man has PVP units fully invested
the point here is to burst SLOWER than them
so you eat up their noah time, which is 3s
while having your noah burst up when they burst b3
to do so should i replace xmaiden with something?
the CP gap isnt too big so i still think its somewhat winnable
If no CP difference, ur best bet is invested 2RL Scar Trina RH. Other variations are… less likely work imo
ah the trina is causing a big CP gap tbh
Slower Cindy can work. But with opponent’s Moran + Nero, u still lose
If >15.4% cp difference, u have stat penalty
damn thats a strong def then tbh i mean i guess it requires good investment
ill still give it a try for fun lol
imagine being a literal mouthbreather like this and invest sr15 moran nero
clearly wasn't abused as a child

thanks! honestly no idea how i could think of something like that lol
ok so please explain to me what happened
what happened in this fight, in a detailed way
based on what i'm seeing, they're 2.5rl
uh crap.... well noah burst definitely worked
enemy noah got blasted somehow very fast
sorry i dont know how to explain clearly lmao
but enemy noah died and they slowly got melted one by one
this is why you record it
havent ever recorded gameplay not too familiar with that
i could try again tomorrow and actually look at it more detailed
from my personal understanding,
Their Noah died before she gets a chance to burst, which makes Nero burst, which is blocked by YOUR Noah, and Red Hood continuously melted their Moran so hard that her buffs do not matter at all, burst ends, your Noah dies to """natural cause""", which makes Drake burst and this killed Helm in return, leaving Cinderella alive as the last victim of "probable cause"
i'll take a look at it more clearly
damn barely have to use two burst cycles in pvp
pretty good, but unfortunately not a very good team in SP arena
this does give me a good idea of structuring a team for champion arena
pretty good, although the investment is crazy
not really
id really rather SR15 anything for soloraid/unionraid
even though they gave a lot of dolls from the event i still dont think its enough
i've been thinking of a red hood team for a while now as a substitute for SBS due to her falling off in PvP
this might be the one
Could anyone help me with PvP arena teams please?The ones I had are falling off now
What r you using now
I'll check later (or maybe another cooker will cook for you)
ok but AM I COOKING
i can see it as clear as day
the coming of my dynasty
morbing
What is that
- Noah P2, non taunter P1 is brick
- You know HelmT can be taunted and her burst will attack taunter
- Acceptable
i mean thats why i have biscuit
its hard to build three committed teams
That's not the point
Noah will taunt regardless
So you just gave enemy extra burst gen
oh shit
actually, here's where it hurts me the most
i hate siren
having to run noah p2 also gives them burst gen
i literally DO not have an idea of how to counter her
and of course the crackheads copying my siren noah team means i have to run said team and and have a third team thats gonna lose to everythign else
so if you have a better team i'm listening
because holy shit this is too cancer for me to handle, siren noah team
28
they are running rumani noah cindy biscuit siren 3rl
wait.......how come dat is 2RL??????? wtf....it has Cindy Biscuit Siren....how come Rumani and Noah crank it up to 2RL????????????????????
Scarlet ammo should be 30 or lower (50% OL or lower)
Noise CS should be lower than Noah
whoops i meant 3rl
You don't have?
i thought i was missing a trick here 
Is your Cindy p1 or sth?
do i look that stupid?
need team for sp arena
That team can only be 2rl if your Cindy or Rossanna or school Rei p1

so jackal sbs blanc filler filler?
Not filler, that team will reach 2 RL against 1MG or SG
And yeah you can swap around, since I don't use Biscuit for first comp
do enlighten me, i am not using my brain for pvp at all
ok so does that mean i just accept the fact that i lose
Wdym lose
without noah that team loses to scarlet comp and cindy comp
and since 3rl siren noah still disable my 2rl noah i dont have much of a solution for this
Centi Rumani Cindy HelmT Noah (Still screwed if they run Siren P2)
Cindy P2 
And still screwed agains P1/P2 Siren
dats worst than Cindy P1
man
at the very least Cindy P1 may trigger the bug where enemy can miss the attack due to decoy 
oh right taunt so it doesnt matter if noah is in any place actually
Oh
You actually can avoid with 11% CS on every burst gen
@swift mango did test on this
11% 2RL is like 1.78RL
because right now, 4.82% + 1.59%
More than that also ok
dats still far away from 11....
so all i have to do is to reroll and look for a cs line on noah, which is very common
since we have three days break before CA and two before SPA, i'll see
closest one prolly 10.51% since nikkek use rounding up calculation.....but its better to ensure 11% incase they "suddenly" change the rounding system 
12% should be safe
since i have a low roll cs% line right now having a high roll or two low roll would fix this problem right away
for now i'll just do nothing since pvp is ending today
@crystal flicker
What are you planning to do
nothing in particular, is it better to use sbs here
ScarBS has better chance to get Indom since you can put her at P2
Yeah
What that comp speed
1.59 is the cube?
yeah
Try to get a CS line that's above 3.51
i'm surprised he hasnt realize the problem of the sbs comp
Jackal La+ yes
wdym yes
Q
You're askin Quantum or not?
no its the goddamn indom problem and that too
Get quantum for Jackal and La+ if possible
Defender has more HP and defense by default so should be fine
How SR 0 even a thing
i did some test, and indom falls on jackal everytime
mistakes were made
don't comment on it, i'll make it sr5 sooner or later
Give like Vigor or Temperance on Jackal might help
ill check later
SR15 is 17% red
SR0 is 12% if I remember
Actually there's shouldn't be a risk to run ScarBS P1 with Jackal 
As long as she's solo B3, she'll guarantee Indom and burst after Siren stun right?
yeah
ok let's be real here
in SPA, siren can only be place in one or two team that specifically counters sbs indom anyways
SO, when i have other two team which are literally only specifically beaten by some horse shit
sbs p1 gambling is not that bad
P1 ass then, she won't be stunned by siren
What your other team then
Can be changed if you have Scarlet later
Given the feed of 40 bullets yes it can if you mean this t3 in this img 
Yes, upgrade them, esp Emi and RL(s)
You can run 3x 2RL if your Emi invested

scarlet trina rh xmaiden jackal
noise centi cind helmt rumani
noah biscuit siren sbs emilia
cubes
quantum on trina, xmaiden, jackal (run temperance on trina if you expect enemy invested laplace)
vigor on noise, biscuit
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube
consider table 2 on the right if your siren has enough atk% to be linked in T1, you can replace xmaiden with emilia if you invest in her (if using siren, keep in mind atk% requirement to remain linked)
attached is SS to consider invest on
Noahless Cindy 
that's if you don't want cindy team to be skipped
then again def on SParena is pointless on equal knowledge
I call it the "glass cannon"
get it because glass and cannon
Can help me build pvp team arena? I have most cube
How to counter this team guys? My noah gets stun every time while his isn't
i'm wondering, for Rosanna in PvP, i'm guessing her main OL lines will be 4x ATK and 4x ELE but what would be a good 3rd option if i aim for extra CP on her
Use Noise with low CS OL if you want to avoid stun
Move Siren to P2 if you want to try stun him (Depend on his CS)
Easy way to beat is Jackal Scarlet Trina Centi Anis
Crit Rate
You can scroll a bit to the top and you'll see some viable comp, and yes you need to invest for them to works well
Sadly I don't have Trina 
Blanc
Thanks I just beat him up
3rd team noah or noir?
cause i dont have noah
Why doesn't my SBS revive and get indom by Blanc?
Sorry for late reply, I’m using:
naga-centi-cind-noir-noise
alice-noah-biscuit-sbs-siren
crown-blanc-rapirh-helmt-jackal
🙏🏻
As long as investment in isn't equal. 
Most people don't know that you can beat SBS with just biscuit and Endurance cube. That's why SBS could still work in SpA.
No one invests Sakura
I invested on Moran and that didn't work for a long time 
Go invest in Nero or Bay. 
Moran need her mate
What investment could Bay require....
Done 
Why 
Well, you don't need it if you used 2rl Moran+HelmT+Bay I guess.
Auch
I also failed my attack
Any thoughts on how to win this fight?
Moran+HelmT+LapT+Bay+Centi
Rumanj/Jackal+Noah+Biscuit+Cindy+HelmT
Would noise work? I do have jackal I’m just wondering
unless you have 11%+ CS on everyone, no... just arrange like I told you 
noise/jackal/cindy/helm/noah, same units...
new people still don't know the value of cs
it's the same as what I said, just replace Noise with biscuit.

i still got you blocked, i don't see all your messages xd
That's why I told to just arrange like I said.
You check them one by one if you really care. 
i check this channel like 1 time every 3 days, if you are in the last post then yes, but i don't check when it shows like +3 at the same time
yeah, and some of them are just gifs
@granite anchor what we thinking? #pvp-arena message
How should I build my arena team with Noah? I tried to copy what I can find online but I don't have Scarlet or Noise
if you don't have noah just run a defender in p1 and pad the team until you've her, high CP team is a form of defense if you can't hit 3RL
yeah obviously, if opponent is spending an amount equal to his unborn child legacy in this gacha, you know you've won at something else
noah biscuit flex flex flex 3RL
noah biscuit flex flex flex 2RL
since noah allows stalling, you can use a B3 that is either nuke, delayed nuke or DPS
What can I use to replace biscuit for now? She's pretty under power atm
if biscuitless try to run noah in p5
e.g.
They just need to buy monthly resource patch for 15$ a month to push a 40 level difference on you in a year lol... No need tons of money.
Thanks
180$ a year? yeah no 
i'd rather buy 3 times expedition 33
better support actual quality over scam and budget gachas 
Ngl I don't think I can run with Noah at all LMAO, my Rumani is dogshit too, I can only make a ok team instead of a meta team ig
then run noah on a 3RL team if you can't push it to 2RL
or wait till you've better CP
Noted thanks for the help
Thank you ! 🙏🏻
ShiftUp are a small indy company who need our cash
also meh, I still get the daily packs atm but stepped back a bit on spending with the CN drama at least 😄
why are you opening his messages if you are blocking him
low tier engagement bait?
Omg le dramaz? In muh pvp channelz?
How much do we waste on mobile recharges 
Horizontal please 
You're fast 
363 synch
why you don't use your core dust
Did you take a break? 
A year 

that means inefficiency
You push both campaigns?
Big num.... Ugh 
Big number is not big deficiency
Big deficiency is % based
10% less than recommended power is low
Same goes with PVP

50k at 363 synchro is likely nonexistent lol
gonna perhaps ask someone else then, still thanks for looking at this
already did my dailies too
H word
I'm clarifying game systems one by one
Gotta trust the process
One by one
Now, since combat power deficiency also exists in PVP that means increasing CP for pvp units is important
And the best way to increase it is with overload gear
For example, from Rapunzel to Biscuit
They'll need overloads
The more lines the better, 2 per gear is enough
And the higher phase those lines are the better, something around phase 10 is ideal
He leave already didn't he

Soooooooo briiiiiiiick 
I need my Kisamas to recover
@keen vapor 
Nandeeeeeeeeeee 
I can't just cook carelessly Hime
I need to fix their accounts
Hey I need help with my rookie/spa/ca
bullyshake em until they get the msg
Please cook up a roster for me, and keep in mind HIME is my competition with a 40 synchro lead thanks
what I do 😭
Uh, that reminds me I must go to a cyber
no echo ash needs help!
Yes
Ash Ketchum 

I got to ch38 boss today so Im gonna have 20 blue tickets, I'm so feeling Noah today
2010 moment?
It's gonna happen ITS GONNA HAPPEN
My recommendation for rookie is to not have a defense you will use on SP, else competitors will test how to beat you
noah today trust 
So current def does not have Noah
interesting
Nobody even pokes me in rookie anymore besides hime...
Did you claim tickets from baseball minigame already?
My team was super doodoo too
Yeah
I see...
Hime has the entire bracket psyopped, I think she could switch out her entire team with random high cp units and nobody would attack
as long as there's no cp deficit, a 3 rl cindy noah could beat my team rn
Hime even become champion 
Hime do I have time to OL moran gloves before CA?
YES

i didn´t leave the server cause the cd keys, a thread i look kinda usually and just be here
hurry 
U can contact other ppl via wechat in cn version
id like to think that person mispelled LIGHTNING
and acccidentally got ✨ LIGHTING ✨
@sly willow
We don't have that for the better
@umbral belfry if i attacked you would the siren stun go on noise or noah
Welp, 2.2k ahead in points from 5th, 3h to go, and they logged in 3h ago. Guess i'm going to the whale games! (and then they've not gathered coins all day and boost right over me 😄 )
Who has higher CS of the 2
Me too
first time
that was a trick question, the answer is ID BE DEAD BEFORE THAT HAPPENS
Just glad to participate, so no stress 😄
I can finally test my brick teams
It'll be so funny to watch Scarlet not getting stun 
5th team nothing but mass produced nikke?
well I know for a fact my noah isn't getting stunned bc of how my cs on her and noise are
unfortunately you're cp gapped though
Nah, 5th team SG team
just like Solo raid
How do I know if my Noise or Noah gets stunned?
Ah right, is end of season
@onyx scaffold
Correct
it's not all day, they auto-collect
Yes, you need faster Noah
If noise is stunned, Rumani will burst
spa rank 1 could collect never and still be 1st when points come in
DONT TEST MY LUCK
Pull 
it's noah or soda I can feel it


Im confused now
So I plan to get 17% cs for noah
And i wont get 17% cs for noise
Noah will be stunned right?
You can't stun Noise with Siren if team is 2 RL
No, she won't
2.5RL
if Noise has less CS than Noah, then Noah should avoid stun and Noise taunts, as I understand it
Faster means shots first
Means it will lose aggro to second taunt
Faster = no stun
not yet.... at daily reset
I got Soda yesterday but Hime has still kidnapped Rumani and won't hand her over
20 tickets and a dream
Dream harder
lock in

🗣️ locked in 🗣️
dream with a larger wallet 
for good luck
how close u are to max noah dupes?
oh-.
its just a number, dream and will happen
noah today on freebie roll trust
anyway
20x standard tickets today, noah rouge belorta soda ez pz
I got everyone except these 5 tetra, and one of them is Rumani (who Hime is holding hostage)
crust and the first one on tetra, aside from that, have everyone else
if i can kill gluttony ill have 24 tickets
later.
YOU HAVE MLB ANCHOR?
GIVE ME
I had 22 and only used 20 
yeah lol, it took me about 80 pulls to get her but a triple showed up. then I got another on wishlist later

@umbral belfry ready for another round of pain
i overlooked progress so now i am lacking two dolls for moran and bay
even worse, i didn't know nero is also usable, so now i finished building one OL gears and have to finish the other
even EVEN worse, I have to build a countermeasure for Noah's burst against siren to make sure i always win
need help making sp arena team
post your box
nero is usable but muuuuch less at low invest. she needs high invest
4 at a time since this discord sucks
but also pog 
you need to define what is low and high invest
i'm also building a countermeasure to make sure sbs gets indom
i care much less about CA now that i completed my goal 
if sbs gets indom she will be able to kill two of the worst team i can deal with in my lifetime
eh, i still want to build a team even if i dont care about it tbh
top 2 is crazy when I only wanted top 16
what helps me (sometimes at least). is sbs p1 and blanc p2. my others (minus rapu) has vigor to increase chances of sbs getting indom
but it's still rng so 
i'm looking at jackal sbs team
That's the strat, I bumped it up with 2 more for more luck
so in total, i have 3 2RL team
i haven't built nero yet so i'm not the right person to comment. but basically high invest = sr15? i've seen so many low invest nero (no doll/low doll/etc) where she doesn't help the opponent team at all
just saying 
bay would be a lot easier
in fact she doesn't even need to be built that much (but you can)
having a 4/5 viable team is better than having a 5/5 balanced team
mine is r doll, 4/4/4 skills and she works fine
do need to get the r doll for that though
hmmm
maybe to help with her skills sure?
it'll help obvs, but if you ca'nt get it now it's fine
nero 10/10/10 + sr15 + lv7+ tempura cube or don't
yeah she's high invest 
i don't even think anyone has a super nero built in our baby bracket rn
theres only one person crazy enough at your sync range to build nero
i saw someone (in this chat earlier) with a sr15 nero
ok i dont have that many tickets to burn
that will be our dear elysia
needlessly to say i was disgusted and believe that man was born without a father
that's why i don't recommend adding nero + doing nero moran stall team until then
but if you got that + moran then ayy go off 
so bay + moran instead?
i would recommend that yes
pref 2 rl, but if you can't then no later than 3 rl. bay can't be in p2
esp at 3 rl+
i'd have to think of a b3, then
you have a lot of options there really. as long as moran + bay is staple
in fact i think moran stall might not be necessary, having red hood could change things drastically
could do moran bay rh if you wanted. think rh b3 can be enough w/o her b1 boost
but the problem is how to order it so that red hood burst b1, which moves us right back to moran + bay
but then again, rh b1 boost might be better elsewhere
yeah, fair
it doesn't since scarlet trina always kill everything that does not have bay or noah for that matter
maybe on your cindy team then until you get noise?
uh, why tho
personally, even though i have rh, i don't use her for CA just bc i have better options
the attack buff
but again, at least for me i struggle adding rh to any of my CA teams due to speed
Need help builing my sp teams pls, I think the meta is beyond me atp
Hmm, prob not tbh
Yeah that's fair 
Scarlet Trina Siren/Liter Anis Centi can work
*not to you btw @thorn viper
I'll help later
@tropic summit something's off
There's an impostor among us
Siren vs Siren
Who stuns first?
For Cindy team, I forgot that Noah still forces taunt so might as well rearrange it to be 2rl Noah P1
Siren
ofc
The Moran Bay team requires some disgusting effort to make bay burst works since due to how its gonna look the damn thing will be moran-bay-rh so having bay at 2nd sucks shit
The last team is whatever I feel like doing
question, why are you running rh
thanks
no question, that is the only dps I can use since I have slotted sbs cindy and scarlet in other three
Fun fact Rapi Red Hood is also a choice
does siren base hit rate have 100% hit rate in pvp? imagine a siren vs siren comes down to whoever misses more shots
In fact I could definitely use that instead
No, both of them would stun if they have same stats
hit rate is just 100% in all situation in pvp
o ok
Literally frame perfect, i believe the stun starts frame 1
barring RL whiffs which is another thing
@copper creek can you find the imposter? 
dont know happily drinking martini

@umbral belfry can you? 
is it blanc with non max doll
You won
and she only has her burst maxed, and is winning against Rapi

My Rapi and Crown are brick 
how usable is rosanna in SPA
Well
really usable for attack
We aim for Siren/Soda on def though

You can still use Rosanna against Emil- ah
echo we're in the baby bracket. we don't have emi
invest*
and for that 

basically one of my accounts is mega bricked for campaign, so im starting to accept that and just move all invest to pvp
Imouto
think rosa's most basic team in sp (atk) is scar trina jackal rosa?
why not just invest in campaign/pve
but... im missing like 6 RL dolls, so i figured i could just put something into rosanna (mg doll and all)
but rosa is also high invest, so 
to be honest if your campaign team is suboptimal
im thinking he should stop attacking me every day
everything else falls to sht at some point sooner or later
well this account is stuck at MC without crown, cindy, or ein
meanwhile my other account is at gluttony
it's actually so over
same creation date give or take 1 week
wtf why are you playing multiple accounts
your full time job not stressful enough ?
bro just go to casino at that point

at least the casino gives me free hotel stay / food / drink
wut u mean this is free everything
doing dailies on one account already makes me 
dailies take like 10 minutes tops
20
and pushing is not a factor because im STUCK AT MC WITHOUT CROWN EIN CINDY
thats 5mins too many
thankfully i can auto AI kraken but still...
more like twenty, and its the worst twenty minutes of my day
at that point you migth as well just pull a zixk bro
idk what he did. he quit?
I have everyone
.... I'm stuck at Crystal chamber 
ya
i don't wanna fight hard mw 
MW is just easy la
im stuck in normal mode

Right
now that we have siren and u dont have to doropriv the stupid thing
lol wow.
i still like the game i just hate doing dailies
i don't even have doro 
thats not a problem shes antiquated
doropriv mw was cancerous
ur too busy pulling the good units
i know, i want her so bad 
she's one of my fav characters in the game
that was the night i spent $500 on drinks because i tilted on nikke
4sh is blessed in a funny way, i think crow is the only missilis unit im missing on that account
So rich 
the dailies still doable, just auto kraken lol
i wish, ya boi is broke
he got 3 out of 5 today. not bad.
idk why he attacks me with most of his attempts every day still
he loves you my guy
kissy kissy mwah mwah something something
okay wait so whats a good rosanna team
Scar Trina
2rl scarlet/rosanna/jackal
or in CA you may see rosanna + 3 clip sgs + x.anne/poli
anyway i dont suggest you build rosanna if u havent even cleared normal story
i finally maxed my rosanna yesterday.
feels good to actually use best girl
Omg Poli hiiiii 
cuz when u finally get crown/cindy you WILL want the skill books

I have skill 2 at level 8
7/10/10 is if u're using her in shotgun team for CA
i am also at 7/10/10 

we did napkin math somewhere idk where
i think u were there when we were trying to figure out if i could leave her at 4/7/10 lol
yeah LMAO
think merry and i napkin math'd and said yeah no
How to do another 5 teams without Rossana then
I don't have the attack lines
i dont know
buddy im retired and washed
i dont play this game anymore unless SR/UR lol
hang on whats the value of rosanna in a 2rl scarlet team
Everyone is retiring 
because game is getting stale + we're getting old lol
we are either getting into management where we have some degree of responsibility over peoples' livelihoods
or in at least two peoples' case they want to retire and spend time with their family 
rosanna is b1 nuke.
hence the high ATK stat from OL gear is required, as due to her being a b1 no one buffs her basically
is that really necessary in a 2rl scarlet trina team though
if u want to kill someone at b1 sure
anyway i dont believe rosanna is necessary period
which is why i told you i dont advise to build her if u cant even get a campaign team straight

because if u cant even build a campaign team
you lag behind enough in core dust and they will just cp gap you by way of out-sync
it's to kill their B3 at B1 in case they are 2RL Noah or Bay to block Scar nuke
but you can just do Mermaid/Soda instead
but theres nothing else i can do on this account except sit around until i pull crown/cindy/ein
not against Bay I guess
yeah just sit around
i think its fine
imagine u full send invest into moran, rosanna, nero, etc
and then your next 10pull you get crown + cindy together
... and no skill books
i call that a blessing in disguise
at that point you might as well say gg
ill take it
then you lose to some chud with rapi in his team because he pushed campaign
^
i wonder if full invest xmaiden can one shot a slipper
Do daily discounted pull 
u can try
Me fr 
I just use Rouge bud
(on Anomaly)
slipper is rarely the issue, even SBS can kill slipper. Main issue is lack of damage on phase 1 at high deficit with no Cinderella since there's no real replacement for that
although maybe dont take it as far as i do
i still have 10k skill manuals cuz thats how lazy i am
someone legit had to grab my phone irl and spend them because thats how much i cared 
Rich 
Wrong, that's 5 units 
thing is, i need an electric unit for QTE, and that electric unit is going to potentially replace one slipper-breaker
still not reassuring
did you pull Mari or no
Eve is Electric
yeah but do i really wanna invest in her 
probably not, she is pretty dog without SAnis reload speed 
you can worry about her if we ever get SAnis again
im full 100% copium we're getting sanis this summer
theres no way they dont give us sanis
actually, i get down to x100 with just naga to break QTE. if i full send on my naga's doll, i might be able to do it
have you tried with liter? she gives more atk buff than rrh and you can use that to break slippers more easily
the slippers arent an issue currently with grave alice and rh, i just dont do enough damage to kill mc
Beating mother 🐳 
but either way until i pull crown/cindy/ein ill just get stuck at behemoth again
so i guess its pointless to waste resources on naga just to get past mc
and same for snake
oh just saw you're down to x100 bars? yeah you got this then. a lucky send can do it
nah i think ill just wait, ill be walled at behemoth/snake again anyways
what dreams are made of
am i the mother whale all along 

actually, what if i just full send doll mats on trina and try to trina/scarlet my way through MC and behemoth
i would have to raw-dog the doll starting from SR0 though
usable for pvp too
No crown clear 
if i full invest i can probably squeeze this to 350k cp, if lucky? then rh + maiden for slippers
idk im gonna lie down before i do something stupid
i mean, if you're getting down to 100 health bars, idt you need to change strategy that drastically. grinding a few attempts and getting lucky with crits or just waiting until hard mode event tomorrow for another 2-3 synch levels might push you over
A well invested ScarTrina can break slippers with Scarlet's autoattack, at least in interception
100 bars is quite far away for mc though
im not sure about interception but i dont think thats gonna happen in campaign at deficit
i was just thinking, because this account has all the pvp units (except cindy) but lacking in campaign units, that scarlet trina maiden invest isn't a bad idea
i do admit, i had been malding on hard mode MC for a long time where 100bars is almost a rounding error. i forget what % of total that is for normal 
i think total hp is like 450 or something lol
also you're at hard mode mc? wtf
how are we in the same CA bracket
whats your account creation date, roughly?
gotcha
i actually didn't pilot my MC hard clear. Mooey did for a new strat recording. cindy was hard carry so it won't work for you, but mast/helm is powerful if you have those two units built you might be able to find a way to work that strat in
Low clear with no ein, no seasonal units.
5th lowest clear NA as of 5/21/25
mooey was able to 5th lowest cp clear with these units though. mmast is op. you'd need a different dps carry, but mast buff is quite strong
that comp still depends on crown though
well either way i dont have an electric unit to do the DEEPS except scarlet og with trina if i full invest
back to square 1
it depends on a lot, but mmast/crown/liter and my 40%atk helm are all there just to break the slippers at low cp
my copium can only go so far
its ok i have another account at gluttony so ill just take it easy on this one for a bit longer
maybe i get lucky during collab pulls
surely cindy will come home 
looking forward to getting past this more 🙂 much closer
oh, should mention if you aren't already, MC at 30fps should give you more time before the final QTE. all the low clears fight it at 30fps
how much more time
is that why i felt like it does the spinny QTE so much earlier for me
probably not 1/4 of total health worth of time, but should help 🤷♂️
also i realized your clear ran liter. wouldnt rouge be a much better choice there
% ATK is super saturated with liter, crown, and mmast
if you watch mooey's vod, he doing 30fps and also delaying at much as possible on the qtes/slipper breaks/etc to eek out every second of extra time
i suppose not, but rouge provides cindy with higher atk anyways does she not
unfortunately with my closest team, naga is the only electric unit so delaying during QTE does nothing 😅
helm's the one that need to break the slipper and at that cp diff, really needs liter's atk buff.
in fact not only that, but mmast's stacked burst along with a crit lol. luckily she gives herself crit buff
ah yeah true
but idk you need to do that for normal clear since you can already break slippers with a few different options. just linked vid to suggest mmast as a second burst 2 for whatever dps you end up using
i actually cant believe you breached 1m cp with your start date, whale or not
we're worlds apart
i'm whaling pretty hard atm 
trying to catch up with end of hard mode to max resources, but plan to mellow out after that
i dont even see how whaling can get you up that high though, cuz i thought resources are still limited pretty hard
like does that include buying out the entire shop on top of 11x wipe out every day
11 wipeout a day and every daily bundle
daily core dust packs/11wipe out/dispatch resets for core dust and credits/shop reset for more core dust and credits
it's about 1 level/day. 2-3 levels on event pack release
when you say dispatch reset are you resetting for efficiency? or if you see a single module you're resetting that until core dust pops up LOL
i reset maybe like 10 times on average i'd guess? I grab the high rariety doll mats/core dust/credit then when get down to just 3-4 options left start grabbing any high rarity option that comes up
Did my single sale pull, pulled out my inner weeb with the slow finger drag, reciting UBW
WRONG ACCOUNT EIN WRONG ACCOUNT
Results?
@umbral belfry
FOLIAN YOU STOLE MY LUCK
Can't build her, but she home
today was my day to pull noah not your day to pull scarlet
ITS WHY I ADDED YOU TO MY FL
A soul for another soul
We had a race ash
oh my god we did
i'm sure he wouldn't mind me linking here, but one of the big brains in our union discord, 2d, did a really good efficient leveling guide. I can't link the full write up, but here's a sheet that shows where to put gems to mix/max leveling if you want to go a bit faster.
can invest as much or as little as you want
Whaling guide?! Noice 
holy crap lol
realistically very few people are going past event HM farming
that's by far most important one yeah
i cant believe folian just discount pulled scarlet in my face when i was busy manifesting noah in 20 tickets for the past day
i'd probably still suggest everyone also wipe out at least at the 50 gem level too even if ftp
you think so?
Went Full on EMIYA for it








