pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

but moran 2RL would be more of a threat if I can build it

[placid bloom]

I will note that R0 doll and no OL will still not have enough Def compared to SR15 SBS

[shell hazel]

guess I can check in this solo raid actually? same sync thing

pepper is my issue here as centi/biscuit are good

[placid bloom]

I think you still see your current sync stats

unless you can view Def in battle

[shell hazel]

hm yeah prob can't

[coarse solstice]

Moran needs done but you can leave Bay bare.

[placid bloom]

you can level to 400 in blablalink

and then calculate doll passive def + def OL lines

[shell hazel]

problem is I lack rumani to make moran 2RL

[placid bloom]

since blabla doesn't take into account doll passives

[placid bloom]

but just eyeballing it, R0 doll lv1 def passive + endurance cube shouldn't let you get enough def

to pass SR15 doll's def passive + OLs

and SBS probably has like half a million HP more than Pepper

so it's very easy for Pepper to drop to lowest HP in 1 proc

[shell hazel]

yeah she's very weak here tbh

my SBS even has a def line 😄

[coarse solstice]

Pulling a different battery doesn't really let the other teams fire as well :/ if I think of a good alt I'll let ya know

[shell hazel]

problem is the best b1 batteries atm are here

and jackal is elsewhere, pascal I don't have, it's one reason I even built pepper even a little bit, outside of rumani burst gen on b1 drops off a lot

jackal and rumani rule here and missing either one looks painful for CA comps

[placid bloom]

yeah it's rough, even triple clip barely makes it but you have no def against Scar nuke

unless Pepper one shots

[coarse solstice]

What's your 5 teams?

[shell hazel]

top here

[tropic summit]

sir, start turning on a candle in the church

[shell hazel]

you think there is a chance rail? 😮

[tropic summit]

it's on T1

your indom supposedly expires a tad earlier, so it's gonna be about reload timing tbh

[shell hazel]

won't their SG team chomp my noise/anis in cindy match though?

[tropic summit]

and maybe CS% on SBS

[tropic summit]

even if they kill noise and anis, you bursting with rapu and noah

rosanna will then shoot p1 and p2, probably non lethal

[shell hazel]

interesting

[tropic summit]

i think that team has a decent chance to get to noah B2

[lunar pawn]

woo

[tropic summit]

once you reach noah B2, you're fine

[shell hazel]

did you watch my matches at all? I posted em earlier 🙂

[tropic summit]

rapu will revive noah even if she dies to rosanna B1

[tropic summit]

got no time lately tbh

[shell hazel]

fair 🙂

[tropic summit]

singleplayers are stealing a good chunk of time

[shell hazel]

expedition 33 eh?

[tropic summit]

hundred line defense
clair expedition 33
soon the new rune factory also releases

still have to finish stalker 2 and KGD2

[shell hazel]

I couldn't get into hundred line def in the end was a bit too wordy for me

[tropic summit]

and a whole bunch of VNs i'm behind of

[shell hazel]

but I don't typically like full on VN

[tropic summit]

once you're done with the first part, the real game starts

but ye i agree it requires some reading patience

[shell hazel]

expedition 33 is good though, right balance so far of action + plot

[tropic summit]

ye looks like it

[shell hazel]

i'm at end of act 1

turns out that the paintress was doro all along!

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

I thought the last one would go like 3-2 one way or the other but I smashed em 4-1 surprisingly

my moran cope team did a good job 🙂

i'm just tracking basic stats not looking at opponent teams here just general "did this team do good/bad" type tracking

my scar/jack is undefeated in CA2 or CA3 so far 😄

[crystal flicker]

This is hard

[shell hazel]

t1 I think noah bursts in time to catch scar nuke

[crystal flicker]

Oh it's Jackaless

[coarse lake]

you sure the noah is cs'ed tho

[keen vapor]

No

[coarse lake]

I would bet on the scar winning

[shell hazel]

rumani could have quantum

and/or biscuit, it still might be 2.5RL without CS on noah

[coarse lake]

need to be like 20% cs on rls to catch

watch their previous fight

[shell hazel]

yeah that's a good idea

[crystal flicker]

What about other team tho

[coarse lake]

p2 depends on if siren lives the counters

[crystal flicker]

Soda stun her b4 2.5

[coarse lake]

p3 not sure, nero stun hurts top a lot, but idk if bottom got the dps to take advantage of it, esp since moran is taunting

yeah soda stunning siren rng would let bottom win

what's the siren and scar invest

[keen vapor]

Can I Kisama now?

[shell hazel]

team 4 is mirror SG comp 😄

[coarse lake]

p4 I hate judging sg matchups, very hard, but I'd say the top has the edge

who's defending

[shell hazel]

5 depends on cindy nuke and what is left

[coarse lake]

yeah

but rapu with splash and helmt means that if cindy is high invest, cindy should win by killing those 2

[crystal flicker]

Siren 98K CP, Scar 141K CP

[coarse lake]

is siren linked

[shell hazel]

I imagine siren links (t2?)

she does in my jackal comp, will link SBS + siren

[crystal flicker]

Seems so?

[coarse lake]

if linked, siren probably lives

which then comes down to soda rng

[crystal flicker]

Siren steal indom

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

make sure to check enemy Scar ammo on prev fight too to see if she covers early to dodge Siren stun

[shell hazel]

siren can steal indom indeed

[coarse lake]

indom won't matter if scar gets stunned, sbs will kill before nuke

[coarse lake]

sbs team gets fed to at least 2.5rl

[crystal flicker]

There's no taunt, soda gonna stun Siren + 1 Random at 2.3

[coarse lake]

no taunt means pure random targeting, siren stun isn't guaranteed

[keen vapor]

Can I?

[shell hazel]

who taunts quickest soda or siren in a shoot out?

[placid bloom]

2RL Soda

[crystal flicker]

What if Blanc Stun

[coarse lake]

if blanc stun and also scar stun.... blanc prob still wins since stun is shorter

it really only buys time for nuke and not much else

[tropic summit]

you mean who stuns quicker?

[shell hazel]

yes

[crystal flicker]

I'll watch

[tropic summit]

soda then siren

[shell hazel]

so soda could stun siren?

[tropic summit]

although soda is way more brief, siren lasts longer

[shell hazel]

before siren can stun anyone?

[placid bloom]

yes

[tropic summit]

ye soda could stun siren preventing her stun to happen at 2RL but will happen right after

[placid bloom]

1s is enough for Scar to wipe

[coarse lake]

soda stunning siren means siren gets unstunned like right before scar nukes, but that shouldn't be enough time for siren stun since she still needs 0.5rl worth

[tropic summit]

either way that match is pure RNG, i wouldn't bet on it

focus on the other 4 matches

[coarse lake]

other 4 are invest diff kek

[placid bloom]

if Scar is 20 ammo then it's no longer RNG

[tropic summit]

who runs scarlet on 20 amm- oh china definitely does

[coarse lake]

brotherman is late on the soda scar meta, you don't run p1 scar anymore

[lunar pawn]

what goes off first? 3RL b1, or 2RL b3?

[coarse lake]

2rl b3

[lunar pawn]

cheers

[coarse lake]

on a soda scar setup that's just trading a brick for another brick

gotta rely on crits to kill decent invest attackers even

[tropic summit]

yeah i wouldn't run low ammo scarlet tbh

[crystal flicker]

Soda P1?

[coarse lake]

I would have done it if 20 ammo scar whiffs were a thing in ca, but nope

[crystal flicker]

I always thought Soda stun is P1 + Random if theres no taunt

[placid bloom]

no it's 2x random

don't get baited

[tropic summit]

thou should've read

[coarse lake]

soda p1 scar p5, cs on trina centi

[tropic summit]

@crystal flicker

[coarse lake]

faster than 95% of 2rl scars out there, if you live counters to burst you always win unless rosa sniped

[lunar pawn]

thoughts?
1st pic - left attacker, right defender
2nd pic - top attacker, bottom defender

I'm thinking for attacker:
t1 win
t2 probably loss (depends on whether cindy nuke will finish wiping before noah invul goes off, which seems likely)
t3 loss (defending scarlet will nuke before rosanna bursts)
t4 loss
t5 loss

[crystal flicker]

I mean Rosa doesn't said anything about P1 P2 targeting if there's no Attacker

[coarse lake]

rosa is just an oddball

and she's not necessarily p1 p2 targeting either, since with 1 attacker, it's not consistently attacker+p1 anymore, so it's more complex than that

[tropic summit]

prioritzes means it goes straight for that class
if class is missing, applies normal targetting = MG shoots p1 = p1 and p2

but yes, wording sucks A there

once Merry explained it in detail it was far clearer than SU ever bothered trying to

[coarse lake]

iirc there's still some oddities and inconsistencies with p3 rosa

but generally yeah it's consistent if you know the rules

[keen vapor]

@coarse lake task failed successfully

[coarse lake]

[keen vapor]

I didn't record, sorry

Previous time Indom was on Emilia

[coarse lake]

yeah they got no blanc, any dps indom wins you that

[keen vapor]

That Big....

Can't believe two units with maxed dolls (and Helm is equipped with tempering) can't survive till Blanc Indom

Then again, he 60 level diff me

[tropic summit]

what a madlad running blanc against a scarlet

[keen vapor]

Huh? wym

He's using Rapi, he's slow

[tropic summit]

s2 RNG can kill blanc pre burst

[keen vapor]

Well almost

[tropic summit]

you're gambling, but it worked out

[keen vapor]

No way

[keen vapor]

Just like their lore

also the RNG for RH to get indomitability

[tropic summit]

that clearly went as for keikaku

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/death-note-keikaku-dori-keikaku-dori-death-gif-19559967

[shell hazel]

I saw this one!

https://tenor.com/view/alya-sometimes-hides-her-feelings-in-russian-roshidere-qazira-alisa-mikhailovna-kujou-masachika-kuze-gif-11264215205618339089

was it this one?

[ruby iris]

Why does the winning team cook maiden so hard? Like she dies almost instantly, even before nosie (ofc before the burst)

Just because of a cp gap?

[shell hazel]

71k is basically uninvested

noise and centi aren't any better

[ruby iris]

Just no OC gear and 4/4/4 + cube

[shell hazel]

basically yes

[ruby iris]

Noise should have a doll but yeah

Not enough, is it just because of that?

Or is that team a P1 hitter

Like do most attack P1

[shell hazel]

they have an elegg profile pic so clearly

I mean maiden is a SG unit on def so she targets p5 by default - jackal and scarlet are linked and scarlet does counter-attacks so she probably just killed herself on the scar counters

[crystal flicker]

Noah has delay yeah

[coarse lake]

every good b2 burst has delay

[worldly wadi]

How to counter?

[crystal flicker]

Who tell you to put Cindy P2

Depend on enemy's cs

[coarse lake]

got vid of the fight? see who's linked

oh wait that's helmt burst, nvm

[vital crag]

Hey again, got helm Treasure (working to max it out now, its at lv2) and just pulled Rumani too.
How should i proceed? D: thank you in forward

[shell hazel]

gimme Rumani

[lunar pawn]

thoughts? #pvp-arena message

[covert lintel]

0-2 win for atker
but if his emi has 21% above and noah 17%, miracle will likely occur and he has a chance to win 3

[lunar pawn]

which battles do you think he's gonna win?

[covert lintel]

1 and 3

[lunar pawn]

why 3?

[covert lintel]

defender jackal get unlinked
atker jackal get so much feed from siren and scar

[lunar pawn]

defender will be 2RL though, attacker will be 3RL, and defender scarlet will have her nuke go off before attacker's rosanna b1

[lunar pawn]

[lone sequoia]

that didn't work to pin xd

[crystal flicker]

I just think, In order for 2.5RL Noah to counter 2RL Scarlet, need to get to 2.3RL

This will make Noah buff at 3.12, just right before Scarlet's Burst

[lone sequoia]

both teams cs

you can get a really fast 3RL noah against a slow 2RL scarlet or 2RL scarlet against a slow 2RL noah

i have seen both teams

[covert lintel]

it will 2.5 due to unlinked and his scar in p3, so no feed at all for defender

[tropic summit]

can improve cindy team into this, as long as your CP isn't lowering too much (until then just run the other team, while you finish investing)

[lunar pawn]

unlink only happens after 10 shots from rosanna

jackal only needs 10 attacks to generate enough burst gen to bump it to 2RL

[wicked horizon]

bet for who I think will win
lose
bet for who I think will lose
win
I'm never getting those borders.

[lunar pawn]

and she'll get attacks not only from rosanna but all 4 others

[shell hazel]

[crystal flicker]

You still need 2RL anyway for 2RL Scarlet
Assume you have 24% cs with Anis, Trina, Jackal
85.6 at 2RL
Still need 13.4 from feeds and the other 2

[covert lintel]

are you sure one of linked is siren?
for me most likely centi or trina

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit helmt jackal rh, you going for 2 cycles

temperance on noah
vigor on biscuit
quantum on jackal
resil/bastion on helmT and RH

your teams are on the left, record the match

[crystal flicker]

Soo fastest 3RL team is 2.2RL

[lunar pawn]

yea, checked his previous fight with that team

[crystal flicker]

I should've get Rumani CS to 20%

[covert lintel]

well even he win or lose that, it won't change the result that he is losing the match.
his miracle only happen when his noah and emi team win

[atomic wolf]

https://youtu.be/GzSr8Hau3sk @umbral belfry

3 frame per second

this should be helpful to you though

[jagged sedge]

Im trying to take out a cindi team with my cindi? Do I want to burst first or 2nd? I know she makes a decoy on burst and it might make her take extra damage

[lunar pawn]

hope so I want a cheering frame

kudos

[outer grail]

which team will win scarlet team 2rl vs cinderella team 3rl

[lunar pawn]

left should win

biscuit invinc will trigger on noah, maybe cindy too, but scarlet nuke should kill noise, rumani and biscuit before he can b1

[outer grail]

oh I see so 2RL team starts full burst before 3RL starts burst 1

thank you

[lunar pawn]

yea

[outer grail]

how about 3 RL vs ~2.5 RL does 3 RL team even start burst1 but might not be burst2?

[lunar pawn]

the RL difference is the same, so just do the math for 2.5RL

2.5RL should not have enough time to b3 before 3RL can b1

[grand plaza]

[lunar pawn]

alice

[umbral belfry]

thanks! I'll watch once I'm on lunch break

[lunar pawn]

and centi with her hillbillie haircut

[grand plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[jagged sedge]

So I figured out that havning cindi as a 2.5rl nuke seems to work. Her 2nd decoy activates after their burst and lets her finiah off the straggler.

[umbral belfry]

@coarse solstice no husky today but an Alaskan klee kai came in (mini husky)

[grand plaza]

Do you put her on pos1?

[jagged sedge]

No in mid away from noise ans rumani

[coarse solstice]

One of my favorites!!!!

[grand plaza]

Then her decoy was already there?

[wicked horizon]

What do you do against this team? 🤔

[umbral belfry]

nvm a husky just came in LMAO

the Alaskan klee kai's was named zeke

[wicked horizon]

Noah and... SAnis?

[umbral belfry]

back to work

[jagged sedge]

@grand plaza her decoy activates at start and burst. So first one blocks the nuke, 2nd one helps beat the stragglers

[wicked horizon]

But if I put Noah there, how do I beat this one? 🤔

[outer grail]

I made a copy of the sheet from the pinned message, didnt realize this version existed until now, this is very helpful thank you

[grand plaza]

Hmm ok looks like I jumped in to a discussion in the middle 👍

[jagged sedge]

Noise boosts the heck outa her damage as well

[wicked horizon]

Lesgo

[coarse solstice]

That's amazing! I think we started a trend in our neighborhood. I've seen like 4 husky puppies this spring already. We'll have a few teams by the end of summer

[slender mesa]

anything I could improve vs that genteman

[vital crag]

which cube for rumani

[wicked horizon]

Is he 2RL? (Are you?)

[shell hazel]

siren instead of RH will potentially brick their noah and prevent them from having any protection from your b3, whilst your Noah still works

[wicked horizon]

I don't know why, but I've had the enemy Siren just not stun my Noah.

[shell hazel]

taunt can move focus, but otherwise noah in p1 gets stunned

[wicked horizon]

But Noah taunts.

[slender mesa]

how do I check that

[lunar pawn]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[oak gale]

all of this in the span of 1 day , what do u want from me-

[slender mesa]

I am not sure how to read that

[lunar pawn]

The selected box is your speed, you're 3RL

You're gonna get sent to the shadow realm before you can b1 it seems

Pretty sure opp is 2RL but you can check

[slender mesa]

so a lower number is better?

[lunar pawn]

Mods are quick

[slender mesa]

good job mods

[oak gale]

ill just send these here till rail gets here maybe

[lunar pawn]

Moderator ping is so long though it's never the first option

[lunar pawn]

Yea, it's roughly understood as "how many rocket launcher shots until you reach full gauge"

[slender mesa]

all this time I thought it was the reverse lol

[lunar pawn]

[slender mesa]

ok I will go hit the shower and come up with something better sooner

I thought helm with treasure had a good burst bonus

[shell hazel]

she does but she can't carry your team on her own

[lunar pawn]

She does, she's the highest burst gen in the game

[umbral belfry]

friends for dapper

[shell hazel]

but biscuit, s.anis, red hood are slow

[slender mesa]

but the thingy scored her as 4RL

[placid bloom]

1st number is time in battle (x number of full rocket charges), 2nd number is your burst gauge at that time. You burst when you reach 100% gauge.
Your goal is to reach 100% burst gauge faster than your opponent.

[oak gale]

hime

[lunar pawn]

It measures your team's speed as a whole

[slender mesa]

ok I will try some other combos

[shell hazel]

it's burst gen + positioning + flow of the actual fight you need to work out, all def can be broken if you know how the game flows

and have the right units/speed to do something with it

[jagged sedge]

I dont know how I'm losing to this cindi team. My freaken decoy isnt working after I burst

[slender mesa]

Is Emilia still good for anything?

[jagged sedge]

Made sure I bursted after her cindi

[marble saddle]

@crystal flicker @tropic summit @shell hazel

[lunar pawn]

Meta pvp unit, wdym good for anything

[jagged sedge]

Shes good for Noah teams and for burst gen

[slender mesa]

it might be time to gear Emilia up

[umbral belfry]

[lunar pawn]

[oak gale]

aaa ohhh ahhhh

[shell hazel]

indom SBS into indom SBS 😄

[marble saddle]

i knew hed go FB first cause Thelm so i didnt use Thelm and aimed the timing

his indom was always gonna run out before mine

[shell hazel]

the one with the sharpest claws wins, that's what killing bites is

[coarse solstice]

Next maintenance is coming up for pet pictures ❤️

[oak gale]

ch2

ch3

[slender mesa]

I went with Noah, Biscuit, Emilia, Siren and treasure helm. It seems that did the trick

[green summit]

Which team seems more favored?

[shell hazel]

nicely called

[shell hazel]

Drake treasure soon...

[grand plaza]

I love how I win this with a wrong Jackal link lol

[keen vapor]

That is wrong?

[shy rampart]

If I needed some helping making arena teams would I ask in here or team building? 0.0 just don’t wanna bother the wrong group <3

[keen vapor]

Here
Please do it as stated on pinned messages

[grand plaza]

Jackal is the lowest hp

[keen vapor]

invest her

[grand plaza]

Which makes her get the blanc indom normally, but she dies here in just in time

[shy rampart]

Okay thank you

[oak gale]

feed her some plates , she has teeth to chew them

[shell hazel]

need more bond tickets I already exhausted the weekly ones and the ones from the shop reset

[placid bloom]

you already did weekly brief encounter and bought broken core tickets?

[shell hazel]

yes

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

well except the wrong manufacturer ones anyway

[grand plaza]

I can't invest on pvp while there are so many waiting in the line... Siren SBS RH Mihara...

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

nice, went as expected, jackal-linked RH on B2 and B3 on second rotation went smoothly

[oak gale]

im questioning the credit briefcase but im gonna overlook it

[shell hazel]

you need credits later on

[oak gale]

hilp

[shell hazel]

I'm stockpiling

[oak gale]

hope its worth lol

[shell hazel]

people 400+ say they have a shortage, may as well bank some

[umbral belfry]

huge fan

[umbral belfry]

aaa aaa oooh

[oak gale]

we need a channel in the server where people can only talk as siren aaa ohh aaaaa

[keen vapor]

Wait, you forgot to indicate to switch to horizontal layout for sending units

[grizzled bone]

sure I'll add it in

[tropic summit]

eeuh ohhu aa?

[sand trout]

what would be a good team to pair with scarlet?

[oak gale]

ohhhu aahhh oaa 5

[tropic summit]

there needs to be a trina or 2 buffers to be lethal

[sand trout]

i got trina literally half and hour ago, sadly i cant build her at the moment

[tropic summit]

then either aim for indom scarlet or double buff glass cannon

jackal scarlet blanc flex flex
scarlet blanc rh centi jackal

[oak gale]

also switch scarlet and jackal positions?

[tropic summit]

jackal in p1 is fine if he's expecting siren

[shy rampart]

If someone could help me make some arena teams please <3 doesn’t need to be super in depth, just something to help get some more tickets and weekly gems please and thank you

[oak gale]

so the upload limit was 4- dammit

[shy rampart]

Ooh sorry idk, I saw no more then 4 images so I just tried to hit the important ones

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[oak gale]

all that time i thought it was 3 💀

[sand trout]

i saw a few, cp was way ahead of mine so i didn't even try lol

[oak gale]

me too once ur done

[tropic summit]

what is your scarlet skill levels and OL

[tropic summit]

for what?

[shy rampart]

0.0 lackluster 5/1/4 and only helmet OL with a max ammo roll

I’ve never really used her 😂😭

[oak gale]

basically i need to make a team for pvp again , i got also enough resources to ol or max out characters if needed since i was saving for mihara (no luck but wont rush it)
basically ch1 and me as ch2 kept trading , but suddenly ch4 took me , and now its just a trade but now ch3 and ch1 are involved too

[spiral onyx]

That would be #nsfw

[oak gale]

and when i say enough resources i mean

enough resources

[oak gale]

oh my bubbles

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind noir noise
sbs blanc rh xmaiden jackal
noah biscuit helmt siren bsoda

quantum on jackal
vigor on blanc, biscuit, noise
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

notes: raise CP on the nikke in attached SS, can aim for table to the right while you investing in pvp core units

[tropic summit]

what were ur current 3 teams? you can show them and see if there's anything that could be improved

[shy rampart]

Awesome thank you so much, and really appreciate the ones I can use later once they’re leveled <3

[oak gale]

@tropic summit from here
i cant get ch1 teams rn since i got banished to ch5 and didnt want to spend on trying to get up before asking you
only exception is that this is the defense team u did last time

everyone until biscut is ol , and if u want to check on skills i can tell u

[tropic summit]

oh we still had to fix T1 and T2

should try to remove bsoda and definitely RRH from there

might wanna kick T1 or T2 into 2RL via feed or natural too

post ur box

[oak gale]

check the reply lol

[tropic summit]

oh these, you came prepared

[oak gale]

so again
from cinderella to sanis everyone is 10 10 10 skills wise , sbs isnt leveled up so if i need to lvl her up for pvp i can since my resources , trinia is 4 7 5 , bicut is 1 1 1 (dunno if i need 4 4 4 with her) and sbs is 6 6 4 rn , can level anyone ofc if we need to

[grizzled bone]

@keen vapor show him what real hoarding looks like

[oak gale]

original plan was to hold the resources and get mihara to 7 7 7 and a single ol piece just for the event , after that i would go for sbs skills wise and ol for rapunzel and other needed characters , after that i would start maxing ol for necessary characters , and saved the dolls ofc since i was planning for future drake etc

[tropic summit]

hmm i don't really see much you can improve yet here

not without tanking your CP in part if anything

just to test your opponent we could try switching a few things around

[oak gale]

i mean i can level up necessary characters remember? like i can 10 10 10 sbs and doll her up if u see it can help , or ol rapunzel etc , just say the word lol 💀

i been saving ever since mermaid's banner came , since i saw the event , so hopefully i have enough resources for that

[tropic summit]

hmmmmm

[oak gale]

only thing is i cant doll drake up because i dont have enough friendship lvls to get her up to 30
i have a room left in my syncro too

[keen vapor]

I no longer hoard

[grizzled bone]

since when?

[keen vapor]

Since CA

Still my gems tho

[grizzled bone]

[oak gale]

i have a friend , who didnt use a SINGLE briefcase or a single thing ever since the game started 💀 he played more than me too , but hes behind me in campaign (he played like a year or so more than me) idk what hes waiting for tbh his pvp is bricked as shit-

[tropic summit]

try these i guess, let's see if they take the bait for T2

[keen vapor]

You don't have lower tiers of gear

[tropic summit]

either way you should finish SBS for SR and kraken

[keen vapor]

You have fewer blue dolls than me

[tropic summit]

get biscuit dolled up afterward

aim for SR5

[keen vapor]

You hoard more limit breaks, I'll give you that

[oak gale]

who should i attack then?

[tropic summit]

just reclaim ch3 or ch2

[oak gale]

ok 1sec

[tropic summit]

leave ch1 alone as that's just back and forth

you can afford to bully ch1 once your def holds ch2 or ch3

[oak gale]

ye i dont use them because the weekly missions 💀 and i dont use most of them anyways

[oak gale]

ill show em to u after i get up

[tropic summit]

then get up lazy ass

[keen vapor]

I had to start changing that to get 1st at manufacturer rankings

[oak gale]

i meant get to ch2

[tropic summit]

oh i thought you were being lazy on the sofa in slippers

[oak gale]

question tho , i need to improve siren? and ol rapunzel?

[tropic summit]

rapu on 4OL is useful, even in CA

[oak gale]

yee i would have gone for that if it wasnt pure rng , especially considering that there are some ppl that are like what? 5k points above me or some shit-

[tropic summit]

siren is gonan be useful for kraken, SR, campaign... go for 7/7/7 4OL

[oak gale]

lemme try oling them rq then hopefully

[keen vapor]

It's not RNG, it's limit breaks

And synched units

[low lance]

What could I play against indom Scar?

[oak gale]

depends on gacha too

fudge i need credits

[keen vapor]

Not true for synch

[oak gale]

ok here is siren , full ol , 7 7 7 , with doll 15 @tropic summit

as for bicut lemme give her a quick doll

migh thave to use the doll box

[tropic summit]

you're on deficit there, 17,1%

[oak gale]

here we go lvl 5

nvm-

nvm

phew-

@tropic summit full ol and doll lvl 5 on bicut , anything else on her? should i leave her on 1 1 1?

[keen vapor]

Not good

[oak gale]

good enough considering my luck 💀

[keen vapor]

R doll first better

[tropic summit]

4/4/4

[oak gale]

like hold on i dont even have a pilgrim chestplate? i can get that from that manufacture chest right?

[oak gale]

never did that before

[tropic summit]

4 rocks

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Why is that bad

[oak gale]

consider it done , what about rapunzel?

[tropic summit]

because it means tomorrow i'm gonna get 0

[tropic summit]

4/4/4

[keen vapor]

[low lance]

So without deficit that same team should do it?

[oak gale]

i mean i do have more full 15 dolls than usual

[tropic summit]

the idea is to stall with biscuit giving noah x2 her s2, scarlet will be hitting invulnerable target long enough for her indom to expire

[oak gale]

doll on rapunzel?

[tropic summit]

you need to check although if enemy team is 2RL or 2.5RL, if they're 3RL with minimun feed you can run this

either way i think you could still run the same team even against rosanna, you'll lose helmT and burst with laplace instead

you'll lose sustain from helmT but still have biscuit stalling with noah and noise sustain

[low lance]

I did not lose a single one pre burst, but then scarlet cleaned up

[tropic summit]

then it seems like they're 3RL

[low lance]

Thats why I asked

[oak gale]

anyone knows how this works? like can i get a pilgrim support chestplate from here?

[tropic summit]

you can run the above

just let noah get twice biscuit s2

do not rumani as she'll steal the second one

[oak gale]

*nvm im asking dumb questions 💀 *

[low lance]

Okay, will try, thks

[tropic summit]

i suggest recording it and posting it here

if there's something going awire we can take a better look

[low lance]

I have recorded the previous one if you want, but it seems you know what went wrong there

[tropic summit]

ye im guessing rumani stole the second biscuit s2

which then allows scarlet to slowly chip you away on deficit

[oak gale]

so apparently im not santa clause

[placid bloom]

Does 2RL Noise buff HP before 2RL Ros lands?

[oak gale]

good enough? @tropic summit

4 4 4

[tropic summit]

finish the other 2 OL down the road

[oak gale]

will do
ill try now against ch2

lemme check cubes 1sec

[tropic summit]

you're tailoring the attack teams not just running your current def teams as is against them right?

[oak gale]

wdym?
if ur asking bout the def team i didnt change it yet i only changed the attack team to the one u sent

[tropic summit]

attack teams are made based on what you facing

[oak gale]

hooold im minecrafting dem nikkes

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor help this man

[oak gale]

[keen vapor]

It did for me maybe I had enough CS so better to test on rookie first

[keen vapor]

? What's up?

[oak gale]

are you my new victim?

[tardy canopy]

Bump

[oak gale]

so ur saying i should put the team that u sent as the defense team instead?

welp he gave up on me
thanks alot rail @tropic summit

[keen vapor]

Have Biscuit? Noah? Centi?

I rather ask for full box, it won't be a long list at 223 synch

[swift mango]

If this is for the Nero team you need SR15.

[tardy canopy]

Here (say thanks to the compact list in COOP) + Siren and Mana, this is from last month, like you said I'm synchro lv 223 now

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Wait, coop is not in power order.... Or is it?

[tardy canopy]

Yes it's in power order, from highest to lowest

[keen vapor]

You have jackal and Blanc

[dim escarp]

I think it's power order yes

[keen vapor]

And Scarlet....

[tardy canopy]

Doggo and bunny girl

[keen vapor]

Check combat power for Scarlet/Bunny Soda/Blanc/Liter/Jackal

[tardy canopy]

Not built

Mid skills

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Asuka then

Instead of Scarlet

[tardy canopy]

Thanku

[keen vapor]

Have vigor cube?

[tardy canopy]

I saw Frima in his team and tought "noob, I'd win" but noin

[tardy canopy]

If it's a new cube then no

[keen vapor]

Your Indom might get on Soda....

[keen vapor]

Uh, no....

It's old

Put Vigor cube on soda then

[tardy canopy]

Soda vigor bunny, a new sparkling flavor

https://tenor.com/view/soda-beverage-cola-pepsi-thirst-gif-1951813833623622866

[keen vapor]

[coarse solstice]

Does this mean no changes to CA after this season?

[dire root]

[keen vapor]

Seems so I did vote for more participants

[wise horizon]

Any cooks for SP arena defense?

[wanton island]

to be fair, id never expect any changes to CA given that it took them over a year to code it

translates to 3 months for a minor change

[coarse solstice]

That tracks. Frustrating though.

[wanton island]

CA is such an exclusive club just by participating. its almost strictly whales or brainiac dolphins

[coarse lake]

ofc

they just gonna copy paste that paragraph until eos

it took them forever to poop out CA, they just wanna flush it down the toilet and forget about it

[wanton island]

as long their betting system works, they dont give a f about CA

which is weird because spenders finance their little operation

maybe more lucrative to release a few new nikkes

keep that money maker going

[coarse solstice]

Imagine if they made it worth while for people to spend money on CA .... Then they actually might

[spiral onyx]

The current CA format heavily discourages whaling

Fixed synchro level discourages whaling for resources

Rock paper scissors discourages excessive investing into cores

Previously I C7d every PvP unit, including supports, as I thought it would matter. In the end it doesn't and MLB is enough

[valid fern]

For newer brackets its more like Rock Paper Gun imo.

it takes so much resource to counter the Gun so its not worth it. its better to just hope your throwaway team goes against it lol

[spiral onyx]

Honestly the fact that team ordering is such a deciding factor in CA is just stupid

I can have the best crafted teams with the perfect investments and still lose due to unlucky matchups

[swift mango]

Max core Rapu and Cindy are still a good advantage. Noise buffed Cindy could tank Scarlet or not depending on this. Nero+moran buffed Rapu could tank Scarlet wipe or not also depending on this.

[spiral onyx]

Those are tanks or DPS. I'm referring to units like Trina or Jackal who literally is fine to just have a 0LB wearing +0 T9Ms

But even if you hard invest into Cindy, no matter how good your team, a MLB Noah can end it all lol

Min maxed SG team? Say hello to 0LB Makima

Like we were always aware of these hard counters, and in SP Arena you have a system where you can take advantage of this knowledge intentionally

But in CA, it's literally the luck of the draw

[swift mango]

I see.

[valid fern]

I think that's the point tbh.

Just have to rename CA to Degen Arena it will fit properly

[spiral onyx]

Not at all. The developer notes literally described CA as effectively a better version of SP Arena

It's objectively worse, minus the synchro level part

I like the synchro level lock cause I like competition, but I'd take a guess that most whales who swiped on synchro levels for SP Arena are not happy with it

But rock paper scissors/luck of the draw isn't competition

[swift mango]

Well, we could lower the luck by making anti meta teams I guess. But it's still luck in the end.

[spiral onyx]

That just makes your setup even more dependent on luck lol

Cause a gimmick hard counter team will maybe win against 1 comp but lose against the other 4

[valid fern]

My only issue with CA is the naming really. There is nothing "Champion" about it. It's a fun little RNG simulator with low stakes and I'm fine with that. If they intended a better version of SP Arena then they obviously failed.

[swift mango]

Ofc good anti meta is a team with decent win chance but hard counter the usual seen meta team.

[spiral onyx]

Like make a Makima team. And make a Sakura team. And make a Bay team. There you have 3 counter teams that, if you have the blessing of RNGesus, can carry you to the finals

[summer copper]

Our frames are more champion than the usual rabble

[spiral onyx]

That's called a "meta" team lol

[swift mango]

Sometime in Yu-Gi-Oh, anti meta is also meta.

[spiral onyx]

If you can create a new team that is capable of beating most existing "meta" teams, congratulations, you just introduced a new meta lol

[swift mango]

Because meta is with 3+ deck and it cancel the strongest deck.

[placid bloom]

well you still have to go through rounds and meet the deck you want to counter

[spiral onyx]

Yu-Gi-Oh and other such card games have far more intricate strategies and bigger rosters and manual gameplay component

[swift mango]

While weak to another. And decent win chance against the rest.

[placid bloom]

I just think of PvP here as puzzle solving exercise. You present a puzzle to your opponent, they solve it, they present one back, you solve it

[primal charm]

they should make realtime ban-pick pvp atp

[placid bloom]

you don't really have control over the actual fight

[swift mango]

This game gonna have more units powercreep in the future and make team building with more variants I guess.

[coarse solstice]

It would double the time if not more but being able to do best of 3 with each opponent with the opportunity to arrange a defense and offense sound like a solid fix. Just not realistic

[spiral onyx]

That's SP Arena, not CA. You don't get to do that in CA because you don't even see your opponents' teams

[coarse solstice]

Also how to balance the attackers advantage is tricky.

[spiral onyx]

I'm playing Etheria Restart right and enjoying the RTA in the game

And of course my guild is rank 1 in that game as well lol

[primal charm]

do you think pvp mechanic of nikke is great

[spiral onyx]

It's straightforward and predictable, so I like it for auto battle

[primal charm]

it just the gameplay is meh

[swift mango]

Could be solved if you asked for 4-5 win to win a fight. Or counting numbers of wins to to default the winner.

But would need working on tier breaker.

[primal charm]

the mechanic is unique isnt it, did you find the similar system in other game

[summer copper]

It’s good enough for the side gig that pvp is

[spiral onyx]

For PvP, it's standard and fine

[swift mango]

I find it in other games but it's much harder to counter in those game because resources were even more limited to build everyone to counter other teams.

[spiral onyx]

CP penalty imo is the dumbest thing in PvP

So I'm glad they removed that for CA

[primal charm]

what gacha game is actually peak at pvp gameplay?

the classic afk arena?

counterside?

[swift mango]

Yu-Gi-Oh duel links.

[primal charm]

until post xyz

[coarse solstice]

That tracks how much time would that have to add to each season do you think?

[swift mango]

It's still fine unless you can't handle the change.

[sleek imp]

Winnable by any chance?

[swift mango]

3 slots make pendulum more fair as well

[primal charm]

should make variety editions like dnd tho

[swift mango]

To be fair I stopped before pendulum summon come to duel links. Nothing dissatisfied in particular just changed phone and started new game there.

Catching up gonna be a pain. Comparing to just making a new account.

[unique mountain]

[spiral onyx]

Epic 7 is often described to have the best PvP system for a mobile game

Etheria Restart uses that system but is modern

[swift mango]

Just realized they increased the doll mats from 3 to 4 boxes here.

Make me wonder if I should still reroll dispatch for mats.

[crystal flicker]

Can Moran Nero surives Cindy Nuke?

[minor pier]

mlb sr15 moran using biscuit/trina invincibility!

[crystal flicker]

Is Scarlet Nuke damage goes from P1 > P5 or everyone at the same time?

I wonder if Biscuit Invuln has some pattern

[swift mango]

Moran need to Burt's before cindy

[sleek imp]

prob not

only orange is worth imo

5-6 star

[swift mango]

You can't exclusively roll for 5 star unless you are whale. And 6 star doesn't exist. 5 star box mat frags is also worse than 4 stars normal mats.

[sleek imp]

oh

yeah 5 star I think

[sleek imp]

it is?? I thought it gives more mats no?

[swift mango]

Less upgrade mats, it's only 1.5 time 3 star mission if you did the math

5 star give double 4 star which give double 3 star

But mats box converting for upgrade mats is different

[glad glade]

I have a question for clarification. This is the decisive battle for my cheer. The Viper (attacker) team screwed up by having TViper and ONLY her, meaning that it will never burst. However, there is a possibility that they may outgun the Siren (defender) team before burst even begins. I personally think that the Siren team will win, but can they survive the Viper team by the time they reach burst?

[sleek imp]

Im mething in math

oh 😭

[swift mango]

Rossana would win most the time

[glad glade]

Even when the team will never burst?

Granted ik Rosa’s burst is scary when invested

[swift mango]

If Rossana team on attack then the other team won't even be able to burst 1

[glad glade]

Hmmmm. His rosa doesn’t seem to be invested. From what I heard, Rosa isn’t worth using when she isn’t invested. Does this change anything or no?

[crystal flicker]

2RL Scarlet, Skip, 2RL Cindy if you can

[swift mango]

Yeah it is normally but it's 4 clip SG vs 3 SG. They would be able to do Rossana to viper Burst. When the opposite won't Burst at all.

Unless the Rossana team is on the right and defense

[glad glade]

Nah Rosa team is attack. I’ll take your word on it. That rosa team’s playbacks does seem to wipe the floor on the previous battle anyways

[crystal flicker]

Idk that Rosa might not kill anyone

[glad glade]

Thank you

[swift mango]

But vipe burst will

[keen vapor]

@unique wagon Drake treasure page still has that typo at her skill investment

[crystal flicker]

How good is Viper

[swift mango]

4sg kill p1. Then Viper kill p2. Then the other team can't burst at all. Then it's just normal attack fight

[crystal flicker]

It's not typo

[glad glade]

Looks to be fully treasured and decently invested (134k CP so probably full OL)

[sleek imp]

ty, whats the website for the team builder?

[final wedge]

maybe dats the game way to motivate u buildin dat excel list....or at least a small fuel to ur motivation

[keen vapor]

74 it's not 7 or 4

[crystal flicker]

Something like nikke-deck.web.app?

[sleek imp]

oh yes tysm

[crystal flicker]

Tbh 3rd team beatable by any 2RL or 2.5RL Nuke

[sleek imp]

what does 2.5RL nuke 😭

you mean position? in this case

[unique wagon]

Intended

[crystal flicker]

There's a reason Drake burst called "Drake's Special"

[keen vapor]

[sleek imp]

Like this?

[crystal flicker]

No

Treasure your Helm

[sleek imp]

okay 💔

[keen vapor]

5RL

[sleek imp]

any recommanded pvp video?

[crystal flicker]

You read the top bar to determine which "RL" your team belong

[sleek imp]

those seems outdated

[keen vapor]

No, video no

[sleek imp]

okay

god I might have a smoother brain than Korla, but Im still not really getting the RL term...

[spiral onyx]

Not at all. After I found out CA doesn't have CP penalty, I skill reset my Anis lol

[swift mango]

Team siren might be able to change the situation around if Centi has CS though. Drake should be able to Burst before she dies to normal attack... So it would be a close match.

Siren might be able to burst before she is killed I mean

[glad glade]

Definitely won’t have enough CS then. Centi has 80k cp, meaning that she isn’t fully OL’ed

[spiral onyx]

I will eventually get around to updating my PvP tier list based on CA but haven't had much free time lately

[crystal flicker]

That Centi don't even have OL gear

[glad glade]

It’s still the default 3 RL

So that means Siren team loses correct?

[sleek imp]

you updaate those? :o

[crystal flicker]

It's hard to determine whether Naga will die or not lol

[spiral onyx]

Getting RNGd on the first round of the Promotion tournament also dampers my motivation, especially with Etheria Restart CBT ongoing at the same time

[crystal flicker]

Siren team will kill Noir, then goes for Viper

[glad glade]

You too? Damn I don’t feel so bad about myself now

[glad glade]

Wouldn’t they go for Rosa since she’s P4?

Shotties at defense go in reverse order after all

[crystal flicker]

Rosa has that passive

[glad glade]

Oh yeah i forgot about that lol

[spiral onyx]

Nahhh, must be some other guy

[sleek imp]

slide the google sheet :money

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/check-the-pins-kowalski-penguin-gif-20219688

[sleek imp]

wait is this not prywden

[glad glade]

The question now is if they can burst or kill viper before Siren gets killed

[crystal flicker]

The question is whether Centi survives the first attack of SG

[spiral onyx]

Prydwen tier lists in most games are pretty bad. They do have a well made website though, for the most part

[crystal flicker]

If she died, the team will go slow, so slow that it'll be Mexican standoff for most part

[glad glade]

Viper team is attacker, so they aim after P1 IIRC. Unless if there is some sort of hidden mechanic I’m not considering

[swift mango]

The attacker SG attack from left to right

[spiral onyx]

The PvP guide on Prydwen is good though, mainly cause it got peer reviewed by a bunch of us before getting published.

[crystal flicker]

You're going to make a tierlist website too

[crystal flicker]

First volley will go P5, then P1 P2 etc

[spiral onyx]

No, I don't need the ad money nor do I have the free time

A Google sheet is more than enough

I need to go and fix/update my own website first before thinking about creating new ones lol

[crystal flicker]

Oh ye, even other gacha community use Sheets for guides

[glad glade]

Hmm. This is a previous battle where Siren team was attacker. Bay (P5) didn’t get hit even when he had 3 SGs

[crystal flicker]

Is this wrong

[swift mango]

That first shot guide is kinda a bug that rarely happened

[glad glade]

Sounds like it got patched then

Anyways, sounds like this battle could go either way based on the different answers I’m getting. Kinda sucks considering last season was also a battle that could go either way and I lost my cheering streak T^T

[swift mango]

Still no Rapu.

[swift mango]

I would go for left. But good luck.

[glad glade]

I’ll cheer for the Viper team considering the circumstances, though the audience is voting for the Siren team

[glad glade]

Thank you T^T

[swift mango]

Then you could go for Siren team.

[glad glade]

Nah your reasoning swayed me

Besides audience gets their cheering wrong at times

[crystal flicker]

If that Soda has Ele, she can help melt Naga faster

[swift mango]

Naga will die before 2rl anyway. 4 SG at her, she won't survive

And Viper will one shot 1 unit

[glad glade]

Highly likely. That Soda is Core 4 and is obviously fully OL’ed, meaning there is some serious investment in there. She’s built for raid

[crystal flicker]

Seems like you really like Viper

[keen vapor]

Not in Nikke right?

[swift mango]

1000% burst would kill anyone...

That already got chipped by SG ..

[spiral onyx]

The Prydwen Nikke tier list is ok, but I'm not a fan of it's practice of giving every new unit an S or higher ranking across the board. Having half the roster as SSS effectively makes the ranking system useless

[glad glade]

Thank you both Blood and Alt for the help

[keen vapor]

true

[crystal flicker]

Yeh kinda favoured to the left, with Noir gives ~+10K attack

[swift mango]

Noir gonna get hit and lose the buff though...

Are you alt or are you scarlet?

[swift mango]

Maybe got for Siren then.

[crystal flicker]

First shot will make their job easier

[spiral onyx]

There's 163 Nikke and 32 of them are "S tier". That's almost 1 in 5 units

S used to stand for "special".

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/rush-hour-you-and-me-me-and-you-yu-mee-gif-6521388707144075848

[glad glade]

Wait so suddenly with the shift? How come?

[swift mango]

I'm just not taking responsibility if you lose.

[glad glade]

Nah no worries. Sorry for asking a ton of questions. I really want that frame and I don’t want any nasty surprises this time

[umbral belfry]

anchor in S for pvp

ehhhh

[crystal flicker]

Rapunzel, La+, XMaiden should be demoted to S
Some S go to A

[keen vapor]

So Mihara SSS means nothing

[crystal flicker]

SAnis might go to SS

[spiral onyx]

SAnis still beats a lot of comps and is overall very solid

SR15 doll + Tempering cube + Moran buffed SAnis easily tanks Cindy nuke

[crystal flicker]

So I might win this CA match against Cindy then

[swift mango]

Rapunzel is well deserved SS to be honest. She is used very often in SpA and a staple in CA.

My Rapu bricked self know its void best.

[crystal flicker]

I'd put her SS if there's reliable way to pull her 30% stun

[midnight marsh]

My alt's MoraSAnis got stopped by Siren in groups just like Keripo's today I need a second B1 in there

[rich fiber]

How much of a burst damage hit does SAnis take when switching from Resilience to Tempering?

[midnight marsh]

I used to use Rumani too in there for SP but can't afford to use Rumani in there CA

[primal charm]

why you dont go soda for ca yet

[spiral onyx]

I've already started tweaking my S4 teams

[swift mango]

Her tankiness, high healing without the need to burst and revive is still unmatched

[spiral onyx]

Her burst gen is too low

[swift mango]

Stun is just icing on the cake

[spiral onyx]

And she Jackal feeds

We don't yet have enough burst gen batteries to freely run non-critical AR/SMG/MGs

[crystal flicker]

New Nikke is Clip RL

[midnight marsh]

Also, after looking at everybody's matches all tournament, I also agree with you that Blanc is so mid in CA I need to experiment more

[primal charm]

but with her you will have 1 guaranted win

[rich fiber]

I am having to Sr15 my Soda, she died in preliminaries from Emilia Rocket splash on P2 and Scarlet counter attacks.

[spiral onyx]

Not at all

[primal charm]

you have a set of 20% cs rl dont you

soda comp is all about speed

[spiral onyx]

20% CS RL isn't gonna magically make your team 2RL

It helps though

[primal charm]

1 feed is enough for soda comp

[rich fiber]

Redhood soft counters Soda btw. She can force a burst if she avoids Soda stun.

[spiral onyx]

But the main thing is, ok, you have a 2/5 chance of stunning someone critical in their team. Great. Now what. Your still have to win

Your team still needs to have a winning condition

[primal charm]

but..but

[spiral onyx]

It's also only a 1s stun, not a 3s stun like Siren

So it's really just a niche yolo strat

Like you can run Soda, Makima, Alice, 2x batteries

And there's your yolo T5 team lol

If you're lucky, you'll win something haha

I guess actually you would want Soda Makima Helm

[midnight marsh]

I think people are wondering why 2RL Scarlet Soda isn't ubiquitous

[spiral onyx]

Since at least Helm can 1 shot

2RL Soda Scarlet is fine

[kind palm]

moran nero comp is high investment comp
if you just copy without enough investment you'll get something like this

[midnight marsh]

But I also can't see Soda used otherwise

right now

[spiral onyx]

Loses to 2RL Non-Soda Scarlet though lol

And against most other comps, the win rate is gonna be about the same

So Soda doesn't really add much value in that setup

Other than make it harder to build cause of burst gen

[midnight marsh]

Ahh

[spiral onyx]

This is the same philosophy behind why Rapunzel is not S+ tier in my ranking list

Yes, she's good. Yes she adds lots of utility to the team. But she isn't a critical team definer

[crystal flicker]

I do invest Moran and Nero, enough for Nero to get 95% Red

[primal charm]

thought its 50/50 tho

[spiral onyx]

There is no such thing as a "Rapunzel" team. Only a "X team feat. Rapunzel as the flex"

There is I suppose a Blanc Rapunzel setup, but my learning from the past 2 CAs is that it's highly unreliable

Blanc without Jackal is too unreliable

[primal charm]

how bout blanc s5 and 2 dps s1 s2

[midnight marsh]

yeah I've collecting stats on matches across servers and the jackaless blanc is always the one that flops one way or another. Once upon a time JP community swore by BlanBisk in SP but that hasn't been working in CA. They've now accepted Blanc should always go with Jackal for CA

[umbral crown]

if they burst in time, they can survive easy ppz

[spiral onyx]

That's very risky still. Your P1 and P2 attackers could die fast

[kind palm]

reason I still use scar soda is to make it possible for scar trina to win against 2RL noah
cuz p2 soda get taunted by noah so her B1 always stun noah

[spiral onyx]

A SG team on defence can tear apart Blanc. A SG team on atk can tear apart the P1/P2

[spiral onyx]

They can but I'm not sure they can win. Cindy still hits hard post nuke, her single target DPS is still very high

[rich fiber]

Can confirm this works. My Soda stunned Noise and Noah in a Cindy team. Scarlet then wiped them.

[spiral onyx]

Soda is in the end just a wildcard if you somehow have sufficient burst gen and don't have a critical B1 you need to use

[primal charm]

have you meet the case that noah and a tank have biscuit imunity then auto soda comp till death

becuz i did FREQUENTLY

[kind palm]

something like B2 defender and cindy for B3?

if all their B1 got stun before using burst there's some chance to win

[primal charm]

even a jackal and noah imuned could stall again

[kind palm]

yeah I have to run 2 3RL team in CA(including SG) cuz I use jackal with scar soda trina and a clipRL

[covert lintel]

does anyone know how many cp increased for every line you unlock?

[crystal flicker]

Is there any of you guys running 1.5RL Scarlet comp?

[kind palm]

how do you tell if it's 1.5 scar comp?
scar jackal with enough feed from enemies?

[crystal flicker]

Scar x 4 Clip RL with 25% CS

[jagged mesa]

@wet crystal @umbral belfry can i go for the 1x gold kit to 15...

edit: no i cant

[umbral crown]

@crystal flicker check this

Thats how you should survive and win against cindy around same speed

[umbral belfry]

you didn't lock in

[spiral onyx]

I don't think anyone is gonna waste rocks on that lol

Would rather spend half those rocks on Emilia38 and call it a day

[crystal flicker]

Is Quiry a must in this comp?

[umbral crown]

Against cindy for me it is

[jagged mesa]

so true....

[umbral crown]

It allows you to tank and heal till 2nd rotation

[umbral belfry]

also @jagged mesa rookie reshuffle soon

[crystal flicker]

Time to bench La+

[jagged mesa]

when is it again

and how do you guys even know

[umbral belfry]

may i get isekai'd to anotber rookie

[umbral crown]

Because if you burst with helm first Noah can nulify the lifesteal

[umbral belfry]

it's after this upcoming season finish (less than a day)

and it said it in the news

[jagged mesa]

u finna get isekai'd right to ASH

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-gif-15190379

[jagged mesa]

tomorrow i think i get 2 more purple kit chances

[covert lintel]

there is no B3 with survivability kits other than quiry, so the team won't work well without her

[crystal flicker]

I'm using Lap+ sadly for that comp

Need more gear fodder

[jagged mesa]

wait my revenge arc on ASH only lasted for a day?

wait x2 this player is assisting me in my season finish for no reason, what a GOAT

what a generous person wtf, even giving up their weekly missions points

[river moat]

am i supposed to put drake into my pvp teams

[crystal flicker]

SP not really, CA yes

[umbral belfry]

they said 'you deserve this, chief'

[swift mango]

Blanc always indom the right target when they FIgHT against me.

My SG hitting p5? worry not that p5 will die and P2 will still get indom.

[umbral crown]

@swift mango@covert lintelRH unbricked

lets see if lucky is on my side to max her doll before next CA

will come with a hawt cook next season

[umbral crown]

should be better

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

maybe I would have to give up on MirandaT next CA.

[umbral crown]

she is not working for you?

[swift mango]

too much restrictions in the game where match up luck is against me

[umbral crown]

uish

[swift mango]

[quick lake]

i’ll run milk next CA

[covert lintel]

most ppl sr15 already so still bricked

[umbral crown]

but but i just got her recently

[swift mango]

0 to 5 directly is still lucky.

[umbral crown]

i need another drake pass to max her doll in 2 mins

[swift mango]

Rosy will do it.

[umbral crown]

trust

helm had a similar way

SR0 to SR10 in 1 go

i always give SR0 to everyone then start working 1 by 1

till max

now its RH turn then X.Maiden

[covert lintel]

i have blanc sr15 today, my next sr15 is noah

[umbral crown]

excellent

blanc max doll was the most unlucky one

took me almost 1 month

[swift mango]

I will just save for Sugar treasure.

I will get it even if it's not good for arena.

[umbral crown]

Noah max doll with tempering is a really good addition in your team

even tho i lost today but my noah ein team worked nice against sbs bay

and also won against 2 RL cindy

[swift mango]

Still gonna die to 3 SG in 2rl the same.

[umbral crown]

just need to be lucky to place her where SG is not

[covert lintel]

for CA i never put noah in p1 or p5

[umbral crown]

in my league SGs are usually Team 1 or Team 4

mostly noah biscuit are Team 2 or Team 3

[swift mango]

I wished SG hit my P5 Cindy but it's not working.

[quick lake]

Should be random

[umbral crown]

moran bay helm Team 1 , 2 or 4 or if lucky 5

[swift mango]

This season I have meet SG on every slot but slot 3.

[umbral crown]

oh

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

always when i put Ein team 3, all noah biscuits are there

but ein was always with blanc, now with noah her survavility went super high

[covert lintel]

actually i put sg in slot 3

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

SG rosa is strong against all Jackal team that's not Scarlet.

[umbral crown]

glad we not in the same league

[umbral crown]

yeah

[covert lintel]

i lost because alice is a bad girl

[umbral crown]

you had to run Ein instead

i had a really fun fight against ReiT

she failed to kill emilia reloading

[covert lintel]

my ein has so many bad lines
30rocks already

so unlucky

[umbral crown]

happens but soon she will get better lines

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/blush-anime-girl-cute-embarrassed-gif-2263088408448528294

[coarse lake]

even against scar jack you got good chance if your rosa and burst chain can stay alive from counters

esp if xanne rosa

[umbral crown]

but when xanne rerun

this summer, trust the copium

[swift mango]

I wanted to split Jackal and Scarlet but hesitated because of that,

[coarse lake]

I can't think of a comp where that's worth it

[umbral crown]

i did split them season 1 and 2 but learnt the hard way that scar without jackal loses to scar jack

[coarse lake]

it also just loses to defending sgs

[umbral crown]

that too

[coarse lake]

or even defending sanis, sanis needs to live nuke from full

[umbral crown]

if not tunned properly will have some issues 2 RL ReiT

[swift mango]

2rl Blanc wipe ofc.

[coarse lake]

yeah but... I don't think there's a good enough 2rl blanc comp that justifies the gutting of your scar comp

[swift mango]

Blanc+ReiT wipe.

[umbral crown]

you sure?

[swift mango]

The only difference is the counter

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

rosa scarjack is the only team with 100% win for me in CA

[coarse lake]

well that still loses to a stall 2rl cindy like usual

probably loses to sanis setup too if only blanc buffer

[umbral crown]

this season my Ein team never lost

[coarse lake]

I think the dmg is around trina scar lvl

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

ReiT has good attack when indom. enough to beat over after noah wall.

[coarse lake]

it's not that good, if it's not better than scar it's not good enough

[umbral crown]

if i had use Ein Team Team 2 and nero team team 3 i would have been in top 16 already

[swift mango]

Scar also enough to beat over that 2rl Cindy no Biscuit

[umbral crown]

imma show you something funny about that

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

check the end

[coarse lake]

second season I was less than a second away from living double buff indom scar that's 180k cp, basically max invest

[covert lintel]

mostly because noah won't get paired with biscuit
ein's drone will burn all after 3sec noah

[swift mango]

Ofc you need 101010 reiT, not 447 reiT or 444 reiT

[coarse lake]

single buff reit won't do anything

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

esp since raw dmg she apparently already loses to scar, and that's not accounting for missing counters

[swift mango]

She is lose to scar after counting counter

In Keripo chart

[umbral crown]

but watch the end to have a laugh

[coarse lake]

oh btw I lived indom sanis with only 1 death today, seemed weaker than the numbers indicate, so prob not that accurate for sanis case

[swift mango]

Well, ReiT can NOT reload at all during her fight.

[umbral crown]

hahah kinda

[coarse lake]

lived rh blanc ein with help of cindy decoy in last few seconds

[swift mango]

and his chart only count max value Scar apparently

[coarse lake]

postburst is max value anyway

[swift mango]

I don't think he counted her s1 trigger chance

[coarse lake]

for reit?

[swift mango]

yes, most likly just normal attack dmg with buff

[quick lake]

[coarse lake]

the s1 multiplier is in the graph, freq of 1.43

[keen vapor]

@swift mango JP found out
https://youtu.be/HQ5DP21Fc-M?si=bvZI7w6CkHLnq42L

[swift mango]

Tell me what you want to talk about first rather than just "found out"

[coarse lake]

and there's no way you're expecting me to believe blanc buff reit can outdamage rh+blanc buffed scar+ counters, esp since 0 ele adv for reit

I think the only team that's pure blanc buffed that can maybe chew through is sbs, and I haven't tested that

my noise is sr15 and 4/4/10 tho

[keen vapor]

Miranda no firing tech

[swift mango]

SBS with HelmT buff could already chew though... Sadly her decoy preventing Cindy for, being target...

[coarse lake]

well no bc sbs team would just die to nuke, unless you're talking bay

[swift mango]

I found that out first.

[keen vapor]

You're smarter than Asians

Are you an alien?

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

why not max skill?

[keen vapor]

not worth

[coarse lake]

s1 s2 not impactful enough for me to invest rn

very low prio

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

but but

[keen vapor]

I was right

[umbral crown]

i see, since you use her a lot i thouht you had it max

[umbral crown]

nope

max skill is alwasy the way

[coarse lake]

I'm not a pvp nut

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[coarse lake]

I don't have skill books to waste on pvp units when I got raid units that are higher prio

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

ok I'm not a nut compared to ppl like rosy

[swift mango]

Skill 1 could make or break a scar wipe killing your cindy or not.

[coarse lake]

they gotta run soda scar first

[umbral crown]

but could be